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Today’s Topics:
1, 2, 3, 4) Father Charles Murr joins Terry on Holy Thursday
Gospel – Luke 4:16-21 – Jesus came to Nazareth, where He had grown up, and went according to His custom into the synagogue on the sabbath day. He stood up to read and was handed a scroll of the prophet Isaiah. He unrolled the scroll and found the passage where it was written:
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring glad tidings to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, and to proclaim a year acceptable to the Lord.
Rolling up the scroll, He handed it back to the attendant and sat down, and the eyes of all in the synagogue looked intently at Him. He said to them, “Today this Scripture passage is fulfilled in your hearing.”
Bishop Sheen quote of the day
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Welcome to the truth and justice show my good friend father Charles Murr who I pray every single day for
Father Murr. Welcome to the show my friend
You do well to pray for me every day. So that so that's what's been keeping me a lot
I don't well a lot of people pray for you father. You're nearly 50 years of priests next year will be 50 years of
Service I blows me away
And you know today I haven't even told you this but I because yesterday we were gonna have you today's a better day
We I want to talk about the true meaning of the well. I've got it. I've got a confession to make
Yeah, I got a confession because I know some of the viewers turned up. I turned in yesterday to see us
Yeah, I always exhausted yesterday
I was just exhausted and I said and I wrote I wrote to to Richard who is who is your right hand man
If Terry wants me and I'll be on but I won't be any fun. Yeah, that's right. I saw that I was wiped out
So I'm very glad you agreed to do it today on Holy Thursday
Yeah, and you know why father because it's the institution of the Holy Eucharist is the institution of the priesthood
So we'll get into that and and also I want to bring to our attention later in the show if we have time
of a young boy
Who's only 10 years old who's receiving the
Medal of honor
Because he shielded his fellow students at that Catholic Church denunciation Catholic Church in Minnesota last year to protect
His brother he put his body around him and took a couple bullets and he recovered and now
I find out a little bit more about his parents about him and you know father
To me I'm an old man. I'm almost 70 years old. Are you are you trying to say Terry?
Are you trying to say that there are still good people exactly where I'm going and I want you to try and say
You nailed it. Sometimes I doubt it. Yeah, I'm glad to hear an exception. I mean
We hear about saints and all that to do the just different great things but this young boy
When you hear about him later in the show, you're gonna say wow
It's good to know that there's a young young man like that growing up. It wouldn't surprise me if that young man becomes a Catholic priest
I really mean that because of his
style of self-sacrificing for his fellow man and
Yeah, so we'll get into that but before we get into of the day of
How about how about pushing how about pushing to make him a bishop? Oh, yeah
Yeah, we could you we could use some bishops like that. Yes, we can it's a matter of fact
We're just having this conversation. I just got off the phone with Bishop Strickland my favorite bishop
Great man, great man and he's agreed to come to St. Louis, Missouri with us to
It witnessed the beatification of Archbishop Fulton Sheen
Both of us are going to be speaking out a banquet for life site news
and then we're going to
Journey in a bus over to Peoria after the beatification to go see the the museum of Fulton Sheen
And I'm only having a hundred people go because it's two buses and I'll be putting that up next week after Easter
Say if people want to join us for that trip because
It's going to be not only a lot of fun, but it'll it'll be like
Let me back in on December. I'll tell you the date. It was the realization the realization of a
Yeah, of a long time dream
It was December 13, 1979 at his funeral that I was interviewed on ABC news for the nation
And they asked you know when they found that I was coming from Los Angeles
They said we got to talk to you. Why would a young man fly all the way from LA to New York for a bishops funeral
So I let him know, but I also mentioned I said this man is a saint
And the Catholic Church eventually will
Canonize him
Because of his life and people need to know more about this man
Even though he's dead now all of his material needs to get back on radio and television
And here it is 40 some years later
You know, you're right. He never really died. No
No, not really not really true. That is very true
And so the bottom line is I'll tell our folks more about this trip to Peoria
It's the 24th of September is the beatification date at two in the afternoon
All right, well, let's get to the gospel if we could it's the holy week gospel Luke chapter 4
Verse 16 to 21
At if father you could read it and give us a little comment on it that'd be grand
Terry I had it here just a minute ago. Of course you did of course you did
Where did it go if you can't find it? I had a I had a kind of a crazy friend from California
Well, that's me. We used to say you used to say where did I do with that?
What he's that right? Well, where did I do with that? That's an interesting comment
Well, father, I can I can read it and you can
I'm afraid you're gonna have you're gonna have I had it right here, but yeah, life is full of adjustments
What Jesus came to Nazareth where he had grown up and went according to his custom
Into the synagogue on the Sabbath day
He stood up to read and was handed a scroll of the prophet Isaiah
He enrolled a scroll and found the passage where it was written
The spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed me to bring glad tidings to the poor
He has sent me to proclaim liberty to captives and recovery of sight to the blind
And to the oppress to go free and to proclaim a year acceptable to the Lord
Rolling up the scroll he handed it back to the attendant and sat down
And his eyes of all the synagogue looked intently at him
He said to them
Today this scripture passage is fulfilled in your hearing
The gospel of the Lord
Praise to you Lord Jesus Christ. Yep. Wow
Go ahead father. Well, you know, this is this is one of the uh one of the three
proofs
That Christ is who he says he is yeah, and that was and then to me it's the biggest proof. It's a fantastic proof
That
Everything that was written in the Old Testament
Points to him. Amen points to Jesus Christ points to the one to the Messiah who is to come and Jesus himself
Fulfilled all of those prophecies in his own life. Therefore
He just read this passage of Isaiah
To those who were in the synagogue and he said and he says at the end
This is just come true you just got done hearing it what you just heard
Has been fulfilled look at you're looking at me
Your eyes are on me. That's where they should be yeah, I fulfilled this
He doesn't say that and as blatantly proud a proudly as I just said it. He says it with humility
But the point is it was well-made said you just heard the prophecy come true
I'm the prophecy come true now this
and
Did I show you those two books Terry? No, what two books? I'll show you my another. I just got from a dear friend of mine in New York
Two volumes remember I was telling you that there was a Jesuit who wrote
Who wrote a book about all of the prophecies of the Old Testament? I do remember that point to Christ. Yes
I finally found the book. It's a two-volume work
I don't think you can find it anywhere in the world. It's hard to find and a friend of mine found it and
and he gave it to me
It's a precious gift
But these are all the prophecies of the Old Testament that
That showed Jesus Christ as the Messiah and how they are fulfilled in him. It's fantastic
That's and and this is what Fulton Jashin
You're you're you and I are all gung ho on Fulton Jashin
I think he's I think he's more than a saint he could he he could be he could be proclaimed a doctor of the church and I'm serious
I'm with you
What his point was his point was that
This proves that Christ is who Christ said he was and this is also unique
To Jesus Christ unique to him um nobody else in the world
Buddha
That's right. We'll have no one no one no one. We know the founder of any religion. What was her name?
The Smith lady from Boston
The Christian scientists. I mean all of these religions none of their founders or founders is
fulfilled
Centuries of prophecies before they were born right
None of them no so this this is this what we just got done
What you just read in the gospel yeah is a proof of that very of that very
prophetic fact which distinguishes our religion from every other religion every in existence
No one prophesied about the coming of of Muhammad. It's right. Nobody prophesied about the coming of of Buddha
Of this of that but there were prophets who for centuries prophesied about the arrival and of the Messiah
This is fantastic
You got it. That's all from life is worth living his audio series. That's on our website. It's amazing
Before we break I want to you know get Bishop Sheen on the other side
People have been asking me about the spiritual warfare conference that took place 10 days ago
The recordings are up on our website for you to watch
The we're in the process of editing them down so that people can actually you know
Not have to hear about announcements that are not pertinent to them. So we're re we're doing that now
But go to vmpr.org
You can go to our website to watch those spiritual warfare talks by Father Chad Ripperger and all the others
Also, I just want to
Encourage people this Easter treaty when we come back we're in a sheen, but then we're going to get into the priesthood
I want to encourage you for an Easter gift to give Bishop Sheen's priest retreat that we have on our website
You have my permission to make as many copies as you want
Give them to 10 priests give them to all of them
We need to help our priests and I think Bishop Sheen's priest retreat will do that
But a vmpr.org
And you can get the
Called and chosen priest retreat in Ireland
Stay with us. We'll be back after a very quick break
You
Welcome back to the truth and justice show father Charles murr.com is where you can get his books
Father, I'd like to bring the smartest guy into the room Archbishop
Full Sheena head
The word hope h-o-p-e
Is something that everyone needs and our hope is in Jesus Christ
But we live in a world where a lot of people don't have hope
So I wanted to get what Bishop Sheen's has to say
Father John Harden's book called Treasure of Catholic
Wisdom has all the sayings. Yeah, it's an excellent book. I had a years ago
So did I have a three excellent excellent and here's what Bishop Sheen has to say
It's not so much what happens in life that matters
It is rather how we react to it
You can always tell the character of a person
By the size of the things that really make him mad
Because modern man lives in a world which has reference to nothing
But
Itself
It follows that when depression war death enters into this two-dimensional world
He trembles into the most hopeless despair
I
Bring this up
Father Merb because you have a background in counseling if
You know that you had when you before you became a priest. I think it was before you become a priest
But I think hope is actually actually I got my degree in psychology after I did not realize that father
Thanks, so I was a pastor in New York, right?
Men while you I did not know that and was it Paul Vitz who taught you a lot of your
Yeah, fantastic man one of my fantastic
Yeah, so isn't it true that we need hope if without hope we just don't operate well. Is that a fair statement?
Yeah, when you were reading that you know the craziest thing came into my mind something that I hadn't thought about since
I think I was 12 years old. Oh my god. There was there was a there was a cartoon figure that we would watch on Saturday mornings
I can't remember it. It was a dog
It was a dog and and and this dog
Moved and groaned and whined and cried about everything all I remember is going
Oh dear. Oh
No, oh my oh
And you know there are a lot of people like that of course a lot of people like that the reason they created the dog character
moping and groaning and and and depressed was because he was following a lot of people
There were people who he personified and and this is exactly right
I know people
As a matter of fact, I think I'm one of them. I think I'm one of them myself, but but I know others who have gone through
traumatic things in life. Yeah
and
They they got through they got through this the those those crisis is
Because they had the right attitudes the right attitudes they knew that they knew that all of this is passing
All of this is first of all is in the plan of God. Yeah
It's what do we do with it? She made a great observation that that I've never forgotten because it's so so so true
He said every time I pass a hospital. Oh, yeah
I think to myself
What wasted pain
The tremendous amount of wasted pain in other words pain that's not offered up as a prayer man
Pain they could be doing so so much more, you know, we say remember we used to sacrifice yes do a sacrifice sacrifice
Well that word is going out of our
Vocabulary and most unfortunately not out of mind yours not of the majority of the majority of comfortable Catholics
No, there is no sacrifice nobody is willing to sacrifice and our mass doesn't represent the sacrifice either
It represents a meal in a hut in any however
The idea of sacrifice is real to prayer is one of the one of the things that that every single morning
I wake up make the sign of the cross to begin the day and go I walk of ten ten
Paces
To a painting that I have on the of the sacred heart of Jesus and make the morning offering of course
That's how I begin my day and I try not to do any
anything now one thing
I wouldn't walk toward that image of Christ
The sacred heart before starting the day. I want the day to start that way. I don't want to waste anything
And one of the things is I offer you all my prayers works joys and sufferings
Yeah, and sufferings of this day
Well
You know, please and anybody who who understands what depression is let me put it this way
Anyone who has a reason to be depressed. There are a lot of people are depressed without a reason
I remember
I shouldn't tell you this but I'm going to tell you this
I remember often enough sitting in the confessional yeah
And people would come in to and they would go through this list of
of
Of terrible problems they have and just this and the other thing and I'm thinking to myself
Oh, brother, you want to know problems you should hear my
But but it's you know, it's amazing how people can become bogged down
With with things that aren't really real and other people can go through dramatically real things
And out on top. Yeah, it's the attitude that you have
It's knowing that God is in charge of everything. Yeah
He just is go along for the ride go along for the ride
Father, I always say an attitude a gratitude is welcome just about everywhere
You got it and you got it and that is the fact. All right. Let's shift gears before we get into this young man
Must we okay
No, no, no, go ahead at the beginning of the show. I was just acknowledging
that
Your priesthood is almost 50 years old now
That's a very long time and by looking at you wouldn't imagine
No, you look like you're just maybe five years into your prison god bless you
And I need to go to confession
No
But father the point though is
the
Fulton sheen and I really mean this
I know the priest retreats that Bishop sheen gave
After his retirement he went all over the country in the world giving priest retreats
Because he said this
That and and I got this right into book but a month senior
um his
Benson
Hilt yeah, uh hit months in your Hillary franco. Excuse me franco. You met him
So he said that he felt Bishop sheen felt like there was a need
because of the he's he said
Uh
A crisis in the priesthood. He said the biggest problem. This was like in the early 70s
He said the seminaries aren't teaching the faith to the future priests and this has got to stop and he's
Going on and on talking about these problems. So he thought well
I'm going to do my best to take the existing priests
And give them good solid formation about the daily holy hour about the Eucharist about our lady and reverence
And that's what he did. So I want to ask you
As a priest of almost 50 years
How important
It is for you to really understand that the priesthood is not like being a policeman
Or a fireman that it is uh, you know, basically
Living out the life of Christ in persona Christy that that this priesthood if you really understand it
uh is
Self-giving self-sacrificing because I think a lot of young men and I witnessed it
They think the priesthood is all about
Imager whatever they just yeah, I'm the everybody looks up to me now
After the crisis that went down
But my question to you is can you tell us the true meaning of what a priest is supposed to be and not what many times we see in our church today
Wow, yeah, it's a big question. That's a heavy question. How much time do you give me two minutes? The rest of the show
Give us what we need for a holy priesthood. Let me say let me say this about that. Let me say this about that as Richard Nixon used to say
Uh
You're right you're right that there are many young priests and I've met them in so of you who uh
I just know when I meet them that they're going to have one heck of a time a hard time remaining faithful to their vocation. Yeah, I know that
And when when I hear
So-and-so left the priesthood or that
I'm not shocked it just it doesn't surprise me because
They didn't seem to have had it to begin with
When it for the wrong reasons now we can say this about anybody. I know people who are married for the wrong reasons
And I know people who are single for the wrong reasons
Yeah
And let me put it this way too. I know people who are in the homosexual lifestyle for the wrong reasons. Yeah
So a lot of us do things for the wrong reasons right that's why if for the priesthood
Most priests have are given uh
My gosh
College four years and five years after college
Of training
seminary training classes courses
direction
So it's nine years after high school to prepare
To prepare now you don't know anybody who's prepared for marriage for nine years. No, no, no
No, so we have we have
tremendous opportunities
There's no reason for any for any young man to say no, I can't go out with the priesthood
There isn't any reason if he's taken advantage of all that time and education and and training
There's no there's no educate. There's no reason
Here's the reason they leave and we'll get right back to Fulton J. Sheen and love this
And today is the perfect day for it
They stop believing in the Eucharist. Yes
It's very it's it's really that simple. They stop believing in the Eucharist and here's the here's the tragedy Terry. Yeah
Everything is set up today for them to do just that
To lose their faith in the Eucharist. That's that beginning with beginning with and I'm going to get in trouble for saying this
But I'm going to say it anyway trouble is my middle name. Yeah, you saw you saw the tea you thought the tea stood for a Theodore. No, it stands for trouble
The
The point is this
The new mass
Is not bad in itself. It's not so bad in itself in and of itself
As a matter of fact, there are things that are that are good about it. Very good
You know what I like particularly about the the the new mass the the readings the possibility of more readings
It has its pros and his cons but that for example however
It has too much leeway
Too much leeway and there are so many things that that have been done to it that
Actually destroy the idea of Christ's real presence in the Eucharist
It's it's not special anymore. Right anybody anybody anybody can give out communion
I know people who are giving out communion in in the parish who who missed mass for five Sundays didn't think anything about of it
Who
Practice birth control think nothing of it artificial birth control who
This ugly other their their lives are really rather scandalous
They think nothing of it to and then stand up to to distribute only communion. Yeah
Well, if anybody can do that if anybody can do that
You get the idea without anyone saying it. Well, what is that exactly? What's so special about what they're doing?
Yeah, I I agree 100% that I don't think I'll take two things lay people should be giving out holy to me
Especially women you're giving them a false hope for something they can't reach
But I want to mention something a teaser a bishop sheen would not ordain one third of his class up in upstate in New York
And I'll tell you why then we come back
Welcome back to the truth and justice show. I'm talking to father Charles Murr
Get his books Charles Murr dot com
And I wanted to mention for full machine
Answer the question about the priesthood that I think is pertinent to our conversation right now father and it was a question about
The comments about the clerical state of the church and since he said he's I said that
The church would prosper by being lifted up instead of going down
And when he met there and he talks about it said
We kind of lift people up to Christ not to go down to where they're at
He noted that in his own experience priests who refused to wear their casics
Or off-old were often troubled priests who are actually
Indicating signs of deeper problems
He himself as the bishop of New York
Would not ordain one third of the class now that doesn't happen too often father Murr where the bishop says no
You're not qualified you're you're you're got any what he said there was that it's going to affect the church poorly
And that we're ordaining men that should have never been ordained
And he was spot on he was spot on now true once he told
Through the Montseigneur of an important archbishop
He doesn't give the name who complained that some men in his seminary
Were causing a great scan a deal of scandal and trouble
On holy Thursday, which is today for us archbishop Sheen was in that seminary for services and not one single
Seminarian was in a classic archbishop Sheen inquired about it
Asking this same archbishop why he did not tell his seminarians to dress properly
No answer was given in such incidents archbishop Sheen saw the great need for leadership and good example
Now he talks about the serious effects of the loss of faith that were appearing in the early 70s
As an example he said there was a young priest whom he heard boast about having many penitents because he didn't believe in hell
What yep, where have I heard that before exactly father
Archbishop told me in 74 that it was difficult in the United States to find two priests in agreement on moral issues
He also expressed concern about priests who were
Pressing to name their own bishop observing their young priests were convinced that all power is from below
Father that you you lived through that. Am I right?
Mm-hmm survived it. Yeah, yes, but you were you were living in that
Even in Rome when you were in in the seminary you had told me stories
That people had lost their supernatural faith
I
Was trying to get in the last segment to the point to Bishop Sheen's point. Yes
Go ahead of one man leave the priesthood. Okay, and I I said it
But I didn't qualify it. I didn't get into it
uh
It has to do with the Eucharist. Yes, you know, it has to do with the mass and what I was trying to get to wasn't so much the
The new mass versus the old mass. However, I only say the old mass. I've given up on the new one
Because I see the tremendous lack of respect and tremendous lack of
of
Of knowledge of of of of of of respect of of
of
Of a beauty for the blessed sacrament. It's just it's just I don't see it in the new mass. I don't see it
It's become commonplace at anybody as I said anybody can give out communion anybody can do this anybody
Doesn't matter whether they're in or out of mortal sin
And some of them I told you are living publicly scandalous lives. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter
That makes the Eucharist unimportant. It cheapens it all the time. This is what's happened also
Sheen brings out
He said he said there have been many
psychological
historical
Statistical
Studies on why men leave the priesthood. He said he said however
It's always seems strange to me that that nobody's really done a biblical
investigation of why men leave the priesthood right and he did why he did one such
Biblical trees is on why men leave the priesthood and it was all about
Judas Iskariot and it was about the
bread of life
I'll in just resuming quickly. Yeah, he said he said the first time that the Eucharist
is mentioned
A precursor a preparation for the Eucharist to the minds of his apostles
Was in chapter six of St. John I am the bread of life come down from heaven who eats my body drinks my blood
Lives in me and I live in him
Anyone who doesn't eat my body and drink my blood cannot live in me and I do not live in him
I am the bread of life, but he repeats it. He repeats it. It's it is
You can't get away from it. I don't understand. I've never understood Terry
If you can explain this to me how the Protestants how Protestants can be chapter six of St. John and say and and not say to themselves
What happened to us?
Where do we go wrong? Well, that's where you went wrong in chapter six of course the first time that he mentions
This and goes into the discourse of the the living bread the bread of life in chapter six
Which is beautiful and I recommend all of our listeners to read that especially today
Amen. It's perfect today. When he finishes all of that that whole discourse
Uh
Many of his disciples left him
Mm-hmm
He turns to the 12 and says you want to go to
You can still catch up with them
And St. Peter says
What does he say Lord? Where would we go? Yeah, the words we go you're the only one who has words of eternal life
And we have come to believe that you are the son of God right now
Our Lord answers that and he says
Wasn't it I who chose the 12 view?
Yet one of you
Is a traitor
One of you is about to betray me. Yeah, and it says in John's gospel and he of course was talking about Judas
Is scary at the one who would betray him now. What's important about that and sheen underlines this beautifully. Yeah
The first time we're talking about the discourse on the bread of life the preparation for the Eucharist
Judas is mentioned
His betrayal of Christ is mentioned. It is mentioned in conjunction with the the first time the Eucharist is mentioned
Yeah
When does he actually leave when does he actually leave to begin the the formal betrayal of Jesus Christ at the last supper during the institution of the bread of life
During the institution of the Eucharist now is it when the priests leave the priesthood
Exactly when they lose their faith in the in the Eucharist now
My point with when we were talking before about the mass the old mass versus the new mass
Uh, you know, I knew priests who also celebrated the old mass and who left the priesthood. So this is not a
Iron clad and iron clad thing. However, however
Any I have never known a priest who had real faith in the Eucharist who left the priesthood
Never never not one and I know many of them not one
Well, this is the whole point of the whole thing
Those priests who have faith in our in our word
Actually, let me go one step further a little bit deeper those who have a relationship with Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist
Don't leave the priesthood
They can go through any sorts of
midlife crises of this of that all of the temptations that the world provides. They don't leave
They don't leave because
Lord where would we go?
Lord where would we go, right? You have you are the only one who has the words of eternal life
This is the whole
The main reason for leaving the priesthood
Because men priests have stopped believing in the real presence and I'm telling you they've stopped believing in the real presence
greatly do to the way the Holy Eucharist is being treated of course that makes sense actions have consequences
Are you aware that bishops sheen would not speak at a church unless the blessed sacrament was in the church present?
Yes, why would he do that? Can you tell me what I think for the very reasons you brought up? Well, sure sure where excuse me
Where do you think he got his energy from?
What do you think he drew he drew his spiritual energy the Holy Eucharist from a
Cloud above or from the from the from the Kupula and the church that he was in or what from the blessed sacrament
From the blessed sacrament and he was nobody was more aware of that than he was
Nobody and therefore he would not preach unless the blessed sacrament were present
Why what what he was saying is why should I give you half why should I give you half of the performance?
Why would you want half? Yeah
This is why the beatification of Fulton Sheen in my opinion is important for holy mother the church to have a model
Like sheen like like I know what I'm going to be doing this afternoon
All spare every afternoon you can count on it. I saw my count two o'clock
I'm before the blessed sacrament till three o'clock when I pick up my grandson at school
I used to do it in the morning
But I'm doing other duties and I said well, it has to be worked out
So you need to be flexible, but I can guarantee you if I didn't make that holy hour
There's no way I would be able to do the things that I do
For the church and for my family. It's it's where I get my energy and who gave it to me. It was Archbishop Fulton Sheen
Father, Father Murr when we come back. I'd like to shift gears again with you
To talk about a brave boy who shielded his friend during this
Annunciation school shooting. He gets an award
But I just look at this young boy. He's now 11. He did it when he was 10 years old
And then we find out from his parents from his teachers the kind of person this young man is I'm saying to myself
Wow, I wish I you know had if I'm not sure what I would do in those circumstances and this young man
Did the heroic virtue of protecting his fellow
students
From gunshot wounds and he took it for them and survived it and when we come back
We'll talk about this young man and I want to make the connection
That this young man really on this holy Thursday
And has really shown us an example of what our Lord and Savior did for us
dying on the cross for our salvation
That this young boy
mimicked our Lord when he says no greater love than to lay down your life for your fellow man
10 years old you're gonna hear about that when we come back
I'm gonna say it right now we're too blessed to be stressed
We're too anointed to be disappointed and if hope was money we'd be billionaires. Stay with us from me. We'll be back after a quick break
Welcome back to the Truth and Justice Show with Father Charles Murr Terry Barber
This is given me great hope. I like to end the show on a positive note victor
Greenwald a brave young boy who shielded his fellow students from gunfire
During this Annunciation Catholic school shooting in Minneapolis
Last fall he just was honored last week for his heroism and his courage and Father Murr
What I really was blown away by is
He's only in fifth grade. Okay. I don't know when I was in fifth grade. I'm not sure
I really would have done something like that. I probably would have ran
I'm being honest with you father
This is incredible
You know when you hear these shoots ring out shot as a shots ringing out
um most people would panic right
But he said this young boy that that he saved his life said my friend was laying on top of me making sure I was safe
And he got hit
two children 10 years old and an eight-year-old were killed in the attack
And you know
This is incredible that this former Medal of Honor recipient Kyle Carpenter who presented the award to victor
He said in a moment of sudden life threatening danger
victor greenwald demonstrated extraordinary courage beyond his years. I agree
Without hesitation
He acted to shield a fellow student from harm
placing himself between the danger and of another
His instinct to protect even his personal risk
Reflects a deep character and selflessness that embodies the very value of the Medal of this honor
and
The Minneapolis state trooper this is pretty interesting who came on scene
And he arrived on the scene that day. He was first to find victor wounded
As I was running up. I see victor his first words out of his mouth were
Thank you sir for your service
This isn't the real human being isn't this kid? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm like really
Yeah, and as the teacher helped him move and that's when I saw the wounds on the back of his head and back
If it's so we were getting the bandages out and placing the amount in the back of his head
And it isn't this fire this dire moment the officer recalled with the 10-year-old boy asked
You know him and said he turns to me and this little 10-year-old boy says
Am I going to live
I mean father he knew us the seriousness of what he did now
But but am I going to live was a secondary question. Yeah secondary. He asked the cop
No his father
Zach added that
My son is always really shines when someone is in need of help. He's always been that way
So you see the way the tree bends is the way it falls
Last thing I'll say and then I want to get your comment the annunciation Catholic school principal
That victor is just one of those most authentic children that she's ever encountered
As a parent you try to raise your kids to do good things
Any greenwald reflected and I'm I'm sad that he had I'm sad that he had that opportunity
But so proud of him
I hate that my kids know so
Know such a awful thing at an early age and it chart it changed him
So it I'm it's hope I'm hopeful to see the good in it
But it's really hard
So the mom said I hate this I can't see much good out of it
But you know you talked about that purification
builds character in a person
I'm going to predict right now
That as the years go by
This is the kind of person who in my opinion young man
Who I would love to see as a Catholic priest and as you said as a bishop because
He's got what it takes your thoughts
Yeah, oh, I mean there's no question
You're not alone in in in hoping that that comes true. I want to see I would I would love to see it. I would love to see it. You know
Uh, in a
To be quite frank and quite honest. Yeah
um
I think most of us would like to think we would act similarly. Yeah
We'd like to think that about ourselves. Oh, yeah, if I were in that situation
You know, I do this. So I would do that especially if especially when we're if we're talking about my brother. Yeah
Somebody somebody that I then I know and deeply love
I used to think that about myself
Until one day
Until one day
We were at someone's farm
In Mexico and you know, do you know what carnitas are? You know what? Yes, of course. I've eaten them
All right delicious delicious. Well in Mexico
um
The farms a lot of the farms don't have electricity
But they have a way of keeping meat fresh
And that is by not killing the animal by keeping the animal alive. Yeah, that's how you get the out of fresh meat
well
At a at a fiesta together and I mean there must have been there must have been 50 people there for lunch
the pig
That was going to be
Killed in butcher. Yeah
was still alive
And so the the the the man who's uh who's house whose farm was went with a uh
I guess what a nice pick something like a nice pick. Okay, and and just naturally. Yeah
Selected the the pig to be to we say in Spanish to be sacrificed
Isn't that something they say to sacrifice an animal to kill an animal for butcher. What's right
Anyway, he's he uh
Stuck this knife into the into the to the pigs art. Yeah, right
Which was the quickest way to to kill an animal
The pig reacted
In a moment. This was like a crazy moment. I'm seeing it from a distance of maybe
Maybe 50 feet. Yeah away
Is in one of the stalls one of the pens. Yeah, the pig reacted by
Running out of the pen and running down this this corridor. Wow. Well, you couldn't couldn't get out of it
Because they were pig pens on on either side this straight corridor toward me. Oh my gosh
Squealing squealing for you know just this horrible death curdling at coming right toward me
Do you know what I did you ran?
No, I got I got a I got a guy I can still remember I remember in vividly would it be embarrassed if I gave his name
I'm a guy who's like six four
Big a big Mexican guy a good friend and I shielded myself with him
Well, you did it and right and right when right when I thought the pig was going to I thought the pig was going to
To bite and kill us. I mean, seriously
It dropped dead about two feet in front of us. Oh my god
Everybody knew that was going to happen. I didn't know that was going to happen
But all of a sudden
It that really threw me in crisis. I bet all myself. Yeah
Big big brain Charles
And I was humiliated. Yeah, I was really embarrassed. Yeah, this friend said he said, don't you worry. I'll never tell anybody
Tell me everybody
It when push comes to shove away in those situations
It's it's not so cut and so dry the way you would act you like to think you would
But but that this young man did so yeah, they actually reacted
Heroically. Yeah, it's amazing because it's this is this is more than this is more than learn to behave
You're full. Oh, yes, in in his nature. Yes, it's amazing
So yes, would I love to see him as a bishop? I wouldn't love to see him as a bishop. I'd love to see him as a cardinal
I'd like to see him as this second American Pope
So funny father you may you nailed it what you just said because yes, I've heard a pig
I'm I've shot a pig in my own yard at one time
You know to butcher it and I know the noise they make it's it's like a horrible now. Yes, I will say this
That it's like the cake and they can't wait to get to you to kill you for trying to kill them. Yeah, I will say gunshot
Gunshots are very loud and usually
When I hear gunshots if it's close by I'm taking cover. Okay, just a natural. What was that I'm coming down and it's a natural
So for him to you know to do what he did you're right. This is part of his
a nature to to protect
to
He was like his parents said he was very sacrificial and anybody had a need
He always would go out and help the neighbor and it kind of reminds me of what Bishop Sheen said in life is worth living
Who's my neighbor the one who's in need?
So father we're at the end of the show. I tell us about your books again. I always like to give a plug for your books, please
Well, yes, my books can be found on my website charlesmer.com real simple charlesmer one word charlesmer.com
and
I would thank anybody for for purchasing them because they keep me and this mission that we have of the retreat house
Going that's what we live on and it did
Yeah, there it is and it was done. Oh, go ahead. No, I'm gonna say an addition and we got it with night
You have to yeah, yeah, this is this is a very this is a
Autobiographical. Yeah, it takes into account. It takes into account my life until about 1992
In Mexico. It's a it's a it's a not an easy read as I've told you before but I wasn't gonna walk in the park
I want people also know that they can make a straight donation
To your work there in Spain at that same time everything is welcome every little bit is welcome
If they just go into the website charlesmer.com. Yeah, there's a button that says donate. Yeah, a magic button
You can donate whatever whatever you feel like giving great everything is appreciated
And it goes toward the retreat house and keeping this mission. Well, that's what I like to see
And I know the work you're doing is very important and I will say that I only support it
A hundred percent know a hundred and ten percent
Is that all that's all why because I know folks father mer
Uh, is a man who's in love with Jesus Christ and his church and that he's trying to help
Especially priests who have been canceled and we know so many of them that have been canceled and you know how many do you know how many
Canceled priests that are in the United States alone. I saw two thousand three hundred and some or something like that
Thousand five hundred. Oh, yeah, I'm a little bit. Oh, blessing. Yes. My engineer says I won't forget to ask for blessing
Yeah, no, that's a lot of priests
And so we need to reach out to them. I just had one staying at my house who just left this morning and
He spent what a whole month with me. I get I get these priests that come they need they need support
They need counseling. They need support from the church there sometimes they're not getting it
So we lay people are stepping up often times and often times without getting it and no help from their own bishops
You got it. Let's get a blessing
Thank you Father. Many of you got to vote some people then's dose
Others of feeling it's been sent in the Shendir Supervosit Monets and oh man. Oh man. Thank you father mer
Go to father mer dot com my pleasure
It's a pleasure to have you here every week to talk about our love for Jesus Christ and his bride
To one and all
The Easter trinity miss beginning
I'll get to confession get to mass
And don't forget our lady of Fatima says it
Souls are going to hell because no one's there to pray and make sacrifices
Please, please offer everything like Father said at the beginning to the sacred heart of Jesus
Thanks again for joining us and may God
Richly bless you and we'll have to see you again on Monday actually on good Friday tomorrow. We have a special edition for you
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