10) What Led To Mica’s Family Reaching Settlement With JP Miller + Affair Accusations

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1:02This fall, like last fall, my go-to will be my cashmere crew neck. I've reached for it basically every cool morning since it showed up and nobody believes what I paid for it. Find the fall pieces you'll reach for most at quince. Download the quince app for app exclusive offers or go to quince.com slash COJ. Get free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada in the UK too, that's quince.com slash COJ. This is coerced, the devotion and death of Micah Francis Miller, a lunasark drop feed. Journalist Mandy Matney, Liz Farrell and Beth Brayden have been reporting on Micah's story for more than two years now for the true sunlight podcast. Coerced is a lunasark production made possible by producers Kate Thomas, David Moses and me, Grace Hills.

2:04In our last episode, you heard how Micah went from victim to accused. How J.P.'s church filed theft reports against her twice. And how even her notary stamp became a weapon. That's the pattern of this story. Every time Micah tried to build something of her own, it was turned against her. In July 2024, three months after Micah Francis Miller's death, Micah's family and their attorney Regina Ward announced that they reached a global settlement with J.P. Miller in their fight for control over Micah's estate. The majority of the details in this settlement were sealed, so it's impossible to determine who really won here. In any situation, there is so much more than money and a state rights to consider when a victim's family decides to settle. In this episode, Liz and Mandy will tell you everything we know about the settlement and most importantly, what J.P. did leading up to it. Was he pressuring Micah's family to settle? Was he sending signals through his social media supporters? And J.P. still has social media supporters.

3:05He did back in July 2024 and he still does now. Here's the show. It definitely does seem like J.P. regards this as a huge win and a huge vindication and perhaps even and I told you so to his enemies, but the thing is he didn't win. There are five things happening here. One, the Francis family was trying to keep J.P. from having control over Micah's estate. But for practical purposes, let's just consider this as inherit her estate. They were trying to keep J.P. from getting Micah's assets, which obviously is a disgusting prospect if you believe that the reason for Micah's death is J.P. At any rate, this was going to be a long fight because by law, he was the executor because Micah didn't have a will. He was technically her next of Ken.

4:08Two months ago, the family was able to get items of Micah's that were important to them like her phone. But ultimately, Micah's estate didn't have much because J.P. was the breadwinner, which brings us to number two, wife fight over an estate that has nothing in it. Two months after Micah filed for divorce the first time, J.P. sold their house, which was in his name to the church. The family believed that J.P. had fraudulently conveyed his and Micah's house to the church in an effort to deprive Micah of her marital property when the divorce ultimately went through. So, they were asking the family court to rule on whether the property or other house-related assets were still considered marital. If the court agreed with them, then that would mean that half of the value of those marital assets would become a part of Micah's estate, which means inheritable.

5:09Now, J.P. made this out to be a cash grab by the family, but there's a what's fair is fair aspect here, right? The family believes J.P. is ultimately responsible for Micah's death, so why should he get to benefit from it? Especially when Micah spent much of the last seven months of her life trying to leave him. So, one way to look at this is to consider that the family wasn't just looking for money. They were also in a way trying to deprive J.P. of reaping any reward from Micah's death. The final takeaway on these two things, this wasn't really a lawsuit, as we have seen J.P.'s defenders and others referring to it. He didn't win a lawsuit. Sierra Frances dropped her petition to be Micah's executor, and she dropped her petition for the family court to decide what was considered marital property. Once there was a decision on that, the next battle would have been on whether they could

6:10remove J.P. as executor. But now none of that has to happen. Okay, the third thing happening here is the potential for a wrongful death lawsuit loomed on the horizon. It was something that the family apparently was considering, but a wrongful death claim against J.P. would have almost certainly resulted in a counterclaim from J.P. Since he has been singing from every rooftop that he believes the family was responsible for Micah's death. Both sides agreed to not pursue wrongful death claims against each other, which really frustrated people because obviously this kind of lawsuit would have further exposed what was happening in Micah's marriage in the 18 months leading up to her death. It would have been a clear en route to finding if J.P.'s claims about Micah's medications and mental health were fully versions of the truth.

7:11But also, this absolutely would have resulted in a prolonged legal battle and it would have gotten very ugly. I mean, think about how ugly it has been so far without a double lawsuit. The family would have basically had to deal with J.P. every single day. They would be forced to see his face on the news all of the time. They would be forced to hear his words and that would likely be a very traumatic prospect for them. Think about J.P.'s recent media tour and how distrustful that was for them and think about them enduring that for years. So for anyone out there upset about their not being a wrongful death suit, remember that the family had to consider what their next three to six years would look like as plaintiffs and potentially defendants in a case like this. The fourth thing happening here is the protest.

8:15J.P. is clearly very affected by them. Recently, he, quite comically, tried to block the protesters for calling for justice for Micah by purchasing a couple of panels of a privacy fence. Not a whole fence, just a few panels. Enough that made it look about as ridiculous as you're picturing it right now. J.P.'s position lately on the protesters is that they are trying to keep quote unquote good Christians from practicing Christianity, which is immediately dumb. They are protesting Christianity or churches. They are protesting J.P. in their reminding J.P.'s congregants that they are continuing to attend and support a church run by J.P. despite everything that has come out about him over the past three months. Apparently, part of the settlement deal was a call for the protest to end, which they

9:16did. But, jokes on J.P. the protesters were not controlled by the Francis family. Many of the protesters are out there because they genuinely don't like what they see and they are challenging the people who continue to support J.P. despite the horrifying details that have come out about him. It is also interesting that he admitted to the elders that he had sexually abused teenagers at the church, including an allegation that he's used church funds before to pay off women who are threatening to expose his alleged bad acts. There are police reports, goal or, and let's not forget about everything contained in Mike's list. So yeah, it is understandably offensive to people that J.P. continues to present himself as a man of God when the allegations against him don't seem to support that image, and it is understandably offensive that there is a certain number of people who continue to

10:18stand by him. Again, J.P. denies every allegation that has been made against him and he's never been charged with molestation or any sort of domestic abuse with either of his wives. The fifth thing that is happening here is that this was a settlement. The details of that settlement have been sealed so we don't know if the Francis family received money or how much they received. But I think it's a good assumption that they received some sort of money in exchange of dropping everything. This is money that they likely would not have gotten otherwise. I say this because again, J.P. was Mike's legal heir. So if we're going to talk about who won, it would seem that that title goes to the Francis family. J.P. smirk and smile could have been because he believes that he was the victor. Or it could have been out of relief because he doesn't want to worry about a wrongful

11:19death case. So let's say that J.P. did pay the Francis family some money. Where would that money have come from? I think that that is a very important question for those still attending solid rock. And they are entitled to answers on that. J.P. has said on the record before that Russell be long is the church's attorney. So who is paying Russell for J.P.'s personal representation? The lines are really blurred between J.P. and the church. As J.P.'s first wife, Alison Williams said in her affidavit, J.P. is the church and the church is J.P. Does that mean that J.P. can just spend the church's money, however he wants? We don't know the answer to that, but it is a question that we would be asking if we attended that church. And it is a question that the FBI should be investigating right now. In addition, would a settlement on J.P.'s behalf paid by the church be considered taxable

12:24income for him? Our other question here is this really what the France's family wanted or was this something that they were pressured into? Is this something that they did because J.P. was making things harder on them? Five moving pieces, a sealed agreement, and a family choosing peace over facing years of J.P. in court. But a settlement doesn't happen in a vacuum. In the weeks before that Monday in July, Mandi and Liz noticed something. J.P. was suddenly everywhere. Videos, interviews, accounts that seemed to appear out of nowhere to tell his side. Here is where they started following that thread, from True Sunlight Podcast Episode 61. But now, we want to start at the beginning of J.P.'s apparent public relations tour that led up to Monday. Let's talk about this TikTok and now YouTube account that began publishing videos of J.P.

13:26on June 9th. The account that then deleted those videos right before J.P.'s apparent PR campaign began. True Crime Re. We've cited this mysterious and suspicious account so many times over the past several weeks without knowing who they are or what their connection to J.P. may or may not be. Over the past week, we've looked at the account from all different angles, and we've read hundreds of comments and watch videos from internet sleuths who believe this account is either managed by J.P. or someone else in his circle. Speaking of his circle, photos and video circulated this past week of J.P. at a pizza restaurant with his right hand woman, Trisha Ross, his alleged paramour, Susie Skinner, and a woman whom a source of ours identified as being the mother of Mark Kaufman, the woman who allegedly helped J.P. get the church a private plane so he could spread his word across the state and elsewhere. What was the actual plan for that plane, by the way?

14:27For J.P. to fly places and preach? Or is there something else going on with that? We don't know. We'll talk more about the church and his finances at some point, but it is worth mentioning again that churches are tax exempt and there are some instances across the country of wealthy individuals using churches as a place to park their assets. We are not saying that this is what's happening here. We're saying it's why we think it's important to get a clearer picture of solid rock's financial position, especially because before Micah died, she had told her friend Charlotte that she thought something nefarious was happening there. That's not happening right. True crime rate. This account popped up on June 6th. Possibly earlier, I say June 6th because this is when the account posted videos related to the Noah Press Grove case out of Oklahoma. Interestingly, Noah Press Grove was on the cover of People magazine. So Noah was found dead on a road in rural Oklahoma in September 2023, about a mile from a party

15:28he had attended that night. He wasn't wearing any clothes, and according to People magazine, his skull was split into and his spine was fractured. His cause of death was blunt forced trauma. Now, what was true crime rate's interest in this case? Unclear, but it seems fleeting at best. The first video posted is a compilation of videos taken from the party Noah was at that night. True crime rate's caption is, working on the Noah Press Grove case with a tourney general of Oklahoma, which is not how that typically works. True crime content creators on TikTok aren't usually side by sideing it with state attorneys general to help solve cases, nor are journalists. So to us, this felt like someone playing make believe and misunderstanding how true crime journalism works. At the end of the video, there's text stating, quote, spent time with the Oklahoma AG today, casting your case. RIP Noah, we will get answers for you.

16:29Again, no idea if this part is true, but okay. The second video was posted two days later on June 8th. Again, it appears to be original content to true crime rate. Unlike in the first video, true crime rate is responding to comments with enthusiasm over a shared interest and promising more content about Noah. The next day, JP's first video appears on true crime rate's page. The story JP gives us is true crime rate reached out to him for his side of things. And because she was interested in hearing his side, he began speaking with her and now trusts her to post his content. Entry again, right? This video has since been taken down. Now, many of you might remember that in mid-May, JP appeared to have created his own TikTok account called JP.Miller 28. This account was, predictably, short-lived, but in the time it was live, several photos of JP and Micah were posted along with a Bible quote from Proverbs 1415.

17:32A naive person is easily misled and believes every word he hears. I should note that whoever posted this, JP or otherwise, they mispelled misled. Then there was a poem purportedly written by Micah titled Crush Forever. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but here's a few notable verses. Reading notes in school just isn't enough and keeping our hands off each other is tough. You see mine and I see yours. Then we blush and quickly pull up our drawers. The poem then goes on to mention that it's time for the classmates in this poem to go to college, but why would they do that when they're having so much fun? Quote, I look up in the sky so happy with my life and a plane flies by. Micah, will you be my wife? A moment of destiny, I couldn't have planned better that I got to marry my crush forever. So was that written about JP who was a grown man at the time? Micah was around 22 or 23 when he proposed. Or was it written about her first husband whom she married when she was 18,

18:35the age when people typically go off to college as she mentions in the poem? An age that could make both her and her first husband classmates. Whoever posted it obviously believes it's about JP. There are photos of JP and Micah posing as a couple. In one shot he is in a Spider-Man costume and she's wearing a Wonder Woman costume. There's a photo of Micah in bed wearing silk pajamas and looking like she had bed head that says maybe my favorite picture of Micah written over it. There are photos of Micah wearing a Mrs Miller sweatshirt of Micah holding a pig of JP and Micah comparing tattoos of Micah getting ready to paraglide of Micah sitting next to JP with text written over it that says Micah is a home screen pick and there's no apostrophe denoting a possessive which is a punctuation quirk also used by true crimery in the Noaprasgrove videos by the way. And then there's a photo of JP kneeling in front of Micah on the beach appearing to propose to her. Micah with her hair in a side ponytail and both hands in the air.

19:38Then there's a video of them both with a plain flying above and the message Micah will you marry me? Love JP trailing behind it. Yes, like from the poem. It's a check in in an egg scenario though we don't know which one came first. The poem or the plane? Also posted on this account before as abruptly removed was a post that said the actual truth is about to come out. Get ready. So as soon as mid-May JP appears to have been trying to reroute the narrative away from any notion of abuse of husband. And again, I say appears. We do not know if he posted the photos on this page but it does seem to be him given the nature of the photos and the motivation of the person posting them. Now at this time JP was turning down requests for interviews with reporters. And less than a week earlier JP was mocked online for a poorly written cease and desist letter sent out by Russell B. Long, solid rocks lawyer on JP's behalf.

20:39You might remember that letter was incredibly aggressive and seemingly designed to shut creators down from speaking about JP online. One was sent to Micah's best friend Charlotte Corn after she first appeared on True Sunlight. Additionally, the letters slowly corrected the record on a police report in which the officer erroneously wrote that Micah said she had been groomed by JP since she was 10 years old. Rather than what she likely told the officer which was that she believed he'd been grooming her since 2010 when she was around 15, which the letter points out basically saying that this couldn't be farther from the truth while in the next breath noting that Micah's 15 not 10 when JP knew her, which as we said back then is not the argument they seemed to think it was. Regardless, the letter doesn't appear to have worked on very many if any creators. In fact, after the letter came out, it seemed like there was an even bigger number of people covering this. This is all just to say that now with hindsight, we can pretty much see what

21:39looks to us to be a genesis of sorts. JP tried to silence the media and creators through a lawyer. When that didn't work, he posted photos of him and his wife with an insult to those questioning his narrative and a promise, or maybe it was a threat, to reveal more soon. When that didn't quiet people down, he then turned to this true crime re person. So, is true crime re actually JP? It's all that this person jumps so quickly from Noah Presgrove to being JP Miller's platform. I mean two days into their quote-unquote project as they refer to it. They were now fully focused on JP seemingly. It is not clear what videos have been taken down of Noah Presgrove between the creation of this account and JP's first appearance on it three days later. But shortly after, JP's videos began appearing, true crime re shared a video

22:43of a private detective in Florida talking about what constitutes harassment online. When a JP and Solid Rocks chief concerns at the time and he mentions the Mike of France's case. Additionally, without even perhaps realizing his own irony here, the private detective notes that criminal harassment isn't just a person feeling bad about an opinion that's posted about them. The person doing the harassment is doing it specifically to upset the recipient of the harassment. Now, obviously people's suspicions were raised. Is this true crime re person someone interested in the case or is something else happening here? As people were sharing theories that this account was closely connected to JP, the account returned to non-JP content. On June 24, they posted a video about Taylor Casey, the American missing from a yoga retreat in the Bahamas.

23:43The next non-JP content seems to have come a few weeks later on July 13 when true crime re returned to the Noah Presgrove case with a video on a reward notice. The next day, all of JP's videos were taken down from the account. When asked why all the videos of JP were taken down, true crime re told their followers that they made them private because they were diving back into the Noah Presgrove case. And they said that they didn't want Noah's family or loved ones to see all the hateful comments about JP on those videos. And they said that JP's videos are now only available to law enforcement. Which initially seemed like true crime re was trying to separate from JP. But no. A day later, a commenter on true crime re's next video, a 20 second clip of a guy singing about the joy of making haters mad, asked them why they are

24:44not posting about JP anymore. The answer was I'm focusing on the Noah Presgrove case. After that, one video got posted about Noah Presgrove. And just like the one that was posted on July 13, it was a very short video of an award notice, meaning it was something that anyone with a Canva account could have whipped up in minutes. But of course, Reed didn't stop posting about JP Miller. And the next several videos focused on him. And that Robbie stinky Harvey, who JP apparently can't stand, but also can't stop talking about. Now, I want to also mention that a number of creators and commoners have said that the true crime re account was using an AI photo of a woman as a profile picture. We are not particularly well versed in the TikTok universe that popped up after Mike is death. We don't know the politics between creators, and I'm for sure not going to give the right people credit here, and I might be oversimplifying things.

25:46Feel free to reach out to us if there's anything you think that we aren't understanding. Once you dive into the TikToks, it becomes a hot mess, and it is hard to keep track of all these fake names in the drama. But a TikToker named a Paganborg says that this AI photo came back attached to a linked in account that has since been deleted. This account belonged to someone purportedly named Sharon Walsh. Someone apparently called the place that Sharon had listed as a workplace, and they purportedly told that person that there was no Sharon Walsh there and never had been. So could true crime re be coincidentally using the same photo as whoever was behind this fake linked in account? Of course, the issue here though is that the linked in account that is allegedly attached to the profile picture being used by true crime re was apparently created on

26:47or around March 7th of this year, which is Micah's birthday. In a day after the pro-rate court disagreed with J.P.'s assessment of Micah's mental health and refused to commit her to a hospital. It is also when things started heating up with the alleged harassment that Micah was reporting to the police. And it is when, according to Micah's list and other sources, the J.P. was allegedly posting as Micah online in over text messages and email. So that's weird, right? Even more strange is that when people started questioning this person's account, the account got deleted. You all know, we don't believe in coincidences when it comes to cases like this. And we will be right back with more on that. Hello.

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28:50This fall, like last fall, Micah will be my cashmere crew neck. I've reached for it basically every cool morning since it showed up. And nobody believes what I paid for it. Find the fall pieces you'll reach for most at Quince. Download the Quince app for app exclusive offers or go to quince.com slash COJ. Get free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada in the UK too. That's qui nce.com slash COJ. Okay, I want to share one more coincidence. We all know that according to Micah's friends and family, and multiple sources, including JP himself, JP is very big into the Marvel Universe. Hence, the life-size Spider-Man statue that appeared in one of his videos, and him purportedly dressing up as Spider-Man 2 avoid cameras since all of this came out. Spider-Man is from a comic book, and according to sources, JP is into comic books,

29:51like very into them, apparently, specifically from the Marvel Universe. So true crime re, or true crime r i. We know r i can stand for Rhode Island, so that's a possibility, right? We know it could be a shortened version of someone's first name, right? Rian, or even Ryan, or r i could even be from the middle of someone's name like Adriana. What we just learned is that r i is also an initialism used by comic book fans. It means retailer incentive. See, comic book collectors know that there are different variations of covers, and r i cover would be a rare one. It's a cover that was created as an incentive to get retailers to order more additions of a given comic book for their store. If they ordered a lot, they would get to have one with a different cover. Again, it's a cover. A rare sought after comic book cover. Now, I hear how I sound right now, very common section, very conspiracy theory,

30:56but I'm just adding a new piece of information to the table as we explore this. I would also like to add that after Monday settlement, one of the first accounts to celebrate JP so-called victory was an account on TikTok called Justice for JP, with the username Loki. Loki is yet another Marvel comic book character, the god of mischief. On Tuesday evening, Loki's account posted an AI-generated video of JP, dancing in front of Solid Rock with the headline POV, No Sunday Protest, and Loki hashtagged Justice for Micah in their post. So, literally right after this settlement, we had another account named Loki, weighing in, in JP's favor, in the most childish of ways. So in summary, we have True Crime Re, an account seemingly run by a younger woman, at least according to one TikToker, who post as opposed to an interview with True Crime Re.

31:57She sounds like a woman in her 20s or 30s. This True Crime Re claimed to be created to explore the Noah Pres Grove case, but in reality, they barely did that. So, this person is obviously connected to JP because they ran videos for JP, ones that were derogatory of Micah and her family. On top of that, there's a potential comic book connection when it comes to the name True Crime Re. Then, when JP was making arrangements behind the scenes and sitting for interviews with news nation, the Mertle Beach Sun News, and other online creators, True Crime Re suddenly deleted JP's old videos. They claimed that they pulled the videos to avoid exposing Noah's family to the negative comments on JP's videos, but was there another reason? Did they do it because maybe some of what JP said in those videos could have gotten him into trouble with the FBI?

32:59Were they pulled so they wouldn't conflict with anything that he said in the longer, more official videos? Or were they pulled to create a market for JP's videos, which another user was charging people to view, aka to make them more exclusive? Another question was all of this a part of some crisis PR effort. Were the True Crime Re videos pulled because JP had just met with the FBI? Were they pulled because they knew a settlement was coming soon? Another giveaway? True Crime Re appears to have beef with Robbie Harvey, even adopting JP's nickname for him. And though True Crime Re said that they are focused on the Noah Presgrove case, there continues to be no evidence of that. If JP is behind True Crime Re, we don't believe that he is the only one. When True Crime Re comments, they don't use the same grammar and syntax

34:03that JP does in his text. So who is True Crime Re? Is it someone related to JP, or is it someone related to a friend of his, perhaps? We don't want to falsely accuse anyone of being behind this account, but we do want to raise the question given the evidence before us. If JP is connected to this account as it appears, then that is even more evidence of how far he is willing to go to manipulate reality and even more evidence of how intense he can be about it, and it would give us even more insight into what Michael would have been going through in the last few months of her life. Now, to the fun part, True Crime Re has hopped over to YouTube. They joined on July 15th. That's right, the day after JP's videos were taken down from the TikTok page, so that True Crime Re could focus on Noah Presgrove. This is also when the first part of JP's

35:07two-part interview with Flo Daddy went live. So there are three videos on YouTube. One is a recording of JP's phone call on March 11th to accuse a church employee of having a fair with Micah. We will talk about that next. The second video is the full two-hour video that JP did with News Nation. We will talk about that later, but the inclusion of both of these videos shows a close connection between True Crime Re and JP because it appears that JP took both of those recordings. The third video is about whether the protests outside of solid rock are peaceful or an infringement on JP Miller and other church members. According to sources, this opposed reporter in that video, a woman named Destiny Dutton misrepresented her identity to protesters when she interviewed them. And I'm not just talking about giving them the wrong name. It appears like she went to some

36:11links for the Santic. Destiny appears to be connected to Dominion TV, which is owned by her family and is a religious TV network in Myrtle Beach. Dominion TV was started by her father, who got his two doctorates from Cathedral Bible College. Does that sound familiar? Because it should. It's the unaccredited college that JP Miller's father started. And oh look, he started it with this other fellow. J.L. Dutton, Destiny's Grandpa. Talk about close ties. Anyways, people were sharing videos of Destiny's press badge, which purportedly identified her as Adrienne Fisher. Coincidentally, Destiny's middle name is Adrienne, according to records. And Fisher appears to be her mother's maiden name. The video does not include her using this fake name. But the hilarious thing is that her press pass literally says press and media badge on it. In those words.

37:15It's straight up like someone playing make believe. Just like True Crime Read with the No-Aprice Grif Video and working on the Attorney General in that case. Though we might call them badges when referring to them, neither of us have ever seen one that calls itself badge on the badge. Usually they say media or press on them. With the publication or broadcast company on it, hers said Coastal Life Media on it. Reporter Beth Brayden found a particularly terribly designed website for Coastal Life Media. Guess when the domain was purchased? On July 21st, at 9.52am. Not only the same day that Destiny Dutton showed up to interview protesters pretending to be Adrienne Fisher, but around that same time. The domain was purchased by a third-party company used to keep the True Registrants identity private. On that same Sunday morning, as those accusations

38:19came flying into our inboxes, Beth checked to see if this Coastal Life Media had any online presence. And it did not at the time. Meaning, this site didn't go live until later. So why buy it at that moment? Was it to make it look like it wouldn't technically be a lie? Because remember, we're talking about Christians here. Both Liz and I were raised Catholic and this kind of thing would have you saying a whole lot of Hail Mary's. There would be no technically I wasn't lying. And more than that, this would have brought shame onto our families. If any of y'all went to Catholic school growing up, you know exactly what we're talking about. That said, the site must have been put up pretty quickly after that because they spelled Coastal their own media name, C-O-S-T-A-L. What does Costal Life Media purport to do? Well, they quote, develop the capabilities of freelance

39:25journalism. Yep. And quote unquote, produce investigation reports. That's right, investigation reports. By the way, despite what Drew Barrymore did and never been kissed, we don't do this. Reporters don't go undercover for basement stories like this. She wasn't Nelly Bligh trying to expose the horrible conditions of Asena's islands. She was trying to deceive people who were calling justice for Micah, a woman who just died. Who goes to those lengths? All of them should be mortified. We have secondhand embarrassment for them. Anyways, the protesters were on to destiny-dutton's game almost immediately. They knew she was not Adrienne Fisher. But again, here we have yet another example of a pro JP Miller PR push. Though True Crime Re tries to act

40:26like they are neutral or even anti-JP, it really looks like they are working in sync. And they clearly found value in Destiny's video. And here, it appears that Destiny Dutton and JP are also working in sync. Kind of. At least in the same way that he is working with True Crime Re, right? Because why lie? Why hide your identity? Why create a fake media badge? Why create a fake website? Why use a cover? There's that word again, right? Cover. And why go to those lengths if you're planning to settle? Why would he try to bolster his media reach before heading into negotiations with Mike's family? Unless that was the point all of all. That was the machinery working on JP's behalf in the summer of 2024. You'll hear

41:29Suzy Skinner mentioned in that segment as JP's alleged paramour. A woman JP has since married. And Mandy and Liz will shed a lot of sunlight on her late husband Chris Skinner in later episodes. But the centerpiece of that campaign was a single audio recording. One JP apparently believed it would prove Micah was the villain of this story. It's a phone call he made in the early hours of March 11th, 2024. And do you remember that date from episode 7? That's the same night Micah found a razor blade in her tire at Springmaid Pier. Federal prosecutors would later allege JP bought that tire deflation device online and lied to the FBI about it. Here's what JP was doing that night, continuing from True Sunlight Podcast episode 61. Okay, let's talk about this recording of a young man named DJ that got posted on Truecrime Rees YouTube page over the past week. DJ is the church member and employee we've talked about in

42:32earlier episodes. The one Micah was with in the early hours of March 11th. Sources have told us that when JP's private investigator discovered that Micah was with a man that night, that JP went bozerk and that in the wee hours of March 11th, he was calling around trying to find out what kind of car does DJ drive. The video of his phone call that he apparently made to DJ later as in the middle of the night, it's just the audio playing over a photo of a young guy in a blue car. The photo has a timestamp and location on it as if maybe it came from the private investigator. March 11th at 1.58 am on Farrell Parkway in Myrtle Beach. The video, again posted on Truecrime Rees new YouTube page, is stylized with a gaudy gold border, kind of like the gold touches on Dominion TV's website. As we told you many times, March 11th isn't just a pivotal date in Micah's timeline from

43:32Micah's perspective. JP has even said this date was when everything changed for him. On March 11th, JP's PI caught Micah hanging out at DJ on the beach near Springmaid Pierra, which should sound familiar to you. That's where Micah found the deflation device in her tire. It's important to note that JP obviously views this incident as changing everything for different reasons than Micah did, and for different reasons, then the rest of us likely do. He seems to believe that everyone was going to listen to this and conclude that Micah was having an affair and that this is going to be the mic drop to end all mic drops for him, meaning that this would absolve him of everything he's been accused of in their relationship and it would make Micah look terrible. But she wasn't having an affair, not only by what we hear in this phone call, but also JP and Micah were separated again. Also, anyone who is this deep into Micah's story at this point and is now hearing about this

44:33make-out session is likely thinking to themselves, you go girl. Now, we know South Carolina divorce law is bad. It puts women in abusive situations in harm's way. For all practical purposes, Micah's marriage seemed to have ended in some form anyway on November 2022. For most of 2023, it appears that JP and Micah were in some form of separation or working on things. That is until October when Micah filed for divorce on the grounds of adultery on JP's part. Not only did JP's ex-wife outline JP's apparent affair with church member Susie Skinner, whose husband died tragically in September 2021 when his wheelchair was found with him in it at the bottom of a pool. We know that church members were starting to suspect JP of having multiple affairs and according to reports the elders were made aware of these issues. So again, South Carolina divorce law, in no fault divorce forces the broken couple to live separately for a year without any sexual relations with each other

45:38before a judge will grant a divorce. During that time, the couple is technically still married. But JP accusing Micah of having a affair at a time when she has left him yet again after he had her involuntarily hospitalized and tried to do it again and at a time when she was seeking money to refile for divorce because he allegedly persuaded her to drop her already filed case. And at a time when JP himself has filed for divorce and has been allegedly having affairs for a prolonged period is sick. More on all of that in a minute. Hello, I'm Quattice Magstrider. The Devil Wears Prada 2 is now streaming on Disney Plus and Hulu. We are digital, we are downloadable, we are streamable. The fashion event of the year is certified fresh. Pull yourself together we have work to do.

46:42Critics say it's smart and witty and the perfect sequel. That's all. Get runway ready for the Devil Wears Prada 2 on Disney Plus and Hulu, rid of PG-13. Hey y'all, it's Manny Matney. If you're listening to co-wurst, you already know that Micah Francis Miller's story runs so much deeper than what the world saw on Netflix. This week on True Sunlight, Liz Farrell and I are breaking down what death of the pastor's wife left out and trust me. It is a lot like JP's fell in father, Reginald Way Miller, and how JP inherited the playbook from him, the manipulation, the lawsuit, the just keep preaching arrogance, straight from his daddy. Plus, we talk about the two Jane Doe lawsuits that Netflix barely touched and we tell you a whole lot about JP's ex-wife that Netflix left out. Remember, Justice for Micah is a movement, not a moment, in the full story matters.

47:43So follow True Sunlight wherever you're listening right now and check out episode 163, what Netflix left out of the Micah Francis Miller story. Stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. And it's twisted, but that is exactly what he did. And though it would seem, JP thinks that this recorded call looks bad for Micah, it absolutely does not. It looks bad for him from every single angle. First off, let's talk about DJ. He's around 20 years old. In 2021, he was a freshman in college according to online reports. He works or worked for Solid Rock up until at least March 11th. And he seemed to be highly valued there. Sources have said that he used to be JP's understudy.

48:50His mother is Heather Wilson, the high ranking police officer, JP has referenced several times in reports as having helped him with Micah. From what sources have told us, Heather Wilson is no longer an ally of JP's. It is not clear when this changed. In November 2022, Micah's family appears to have believed that Heather, whose husband worked security for the church, was using her position to help JP. But since then the family has spoken out in favor of Heather, calling her a friend to Micah in the end. We believe that she has been cooperating with law enforcement in their investigation into Micah's death and what led up to it. So JP's private investigator, let's talk about him real quick. According to JP, he hired an investigator to make sure that Micah didn't go to Dix pawn shop to buy a gun. JP claims that Micah had tried to kill herself at least six or seven

49:52times before and that she had previously gone to Dix before to try to buy a gun. In the extended version of his interview with Rich McEw of News Nation, you know, the recording the true crime reposted, JP claimed that the private investigator was like, no, man, I cannot tell her for that reason. That would be illegal. It has to be a reason like adultery. And JP claims he was like, what? Okay, well, she wasn't having an affair on me, but there was this one kid who worked with the church who was arousing her. So JP reluctantly gave DJ's name to the PI. And then look at that, the PI found DJ with Micah. What a coincidence. And by a coincidence, I mean a coincidence that does not exist. So initially in this recording, right off the bat, JP demands to know whether or not DJ touched Micah. I have to point this out because it is 2024 and men like JP are still talking about

50:57women like they are nothing more than a piece of property without any agency of her own. Throughout the conversation, JP never once mentions Micah's mental health. He never once mentions the alleged medication that he allegedly begged everyone in her life to make or take. He never once shows a shred of concern for Micah. You know, his estranged wife, who he described to news nation as being vulnerable like quote unquote, an autistic child. But the conversation is not focused at all on Micah as a person. JP is focused on Micah, the property that he owns and how another man simply touching that property is disparaging to him. It is sick and twisted to hear this 45 year old man berating this young man who he used to mentor about how and where exactly he touched Micah. And to hear this man's terrified answers describing what sounds like very modest

52:05interactions. DJ is clearly nervous and repentant and views JP as an authority figure who he has let down. And it is clear that JP knows this. He capitalizes on it, he devours it, he relishes it. In this moment, JP seems to be incredibly aware of his power over DJ, both literally as his boss and spiritually because he is his pastor, his conduit to God. He goes between being the disappointed deity in a victim of DJ's sense. It is equally a sick knowing that this video was posted by someone on JP's side who actually thought that this video that was recorded in the middle of the night, JP tells DJ that his PI will have the photos and videos of him allegedly touching Micah by morning time. Again, it is incredibly telling that JP is doing all of this in the middle of the

53:09night. In the video, JP comes at DJ again and accuses him of doing more than just kissing Micah. Again, in a pleading voice, DJ denies it. Then JP comes back at him, saying that the PI said both of y'all touched each other inappropriately. DJ again says no, that was normal kissing. They go back and forth about how long the kissing was and then JP snaps. Again, this isn't adultery. Never mind straight up adultery and there's no such thing as a legal separation in South Carolina. Allegedly, JP knows that he has been cheating on Micah and Micah left

54:10him several times over the past 18 months and had just left him again. And it's got to be noted, JP have filed for divorce more than two weeks earlier than this, asking for temporary relief from the court, the audacity. For JP to sit there and shame this guy and lie to him knowing all this, it's just so hard to listen to. DJ offers his repentance and I'm telling you without seeing how DJ looked in that moment, you can hear it. You can hear his head hanging. You can hear the guilt he was feeling. As DJ continues to apologize, JP cuts him off again and asks him why he thinks Micah called him that night and he tells DJ that he has zero discernment. Do you not see that a married woman called you and asked him each of the beach? DJ starts to apologize again in his voice cracks and JP cuts him off again. JP is like, I thought you had a surle, you said you had discernment better than 70 year old man. DJ cracks him in, he says miserably. It was saying better than some

55:1570 year old man. Which what is that? What is this discernment measuring contest that's happening? DJ tells JP that he's not on the phone to argue. He says he's repenting and he doesn't know what to do beyond ask for JP's forgiveness. He says he doesn't expect JP to forgive him. Don't go what else to tell you other than to ask for your forgiveness and honestly don't even expect that from you. JP responds with no, I forgive you. As DJ is telling JP that he feels sick to his stomach about this whole thing, JP cuts him off again and says, you know, Micah did the same thing to me 10 years ago. This exact same thing we met at the same place. And there it is, right? There goes JP making out to be the jess bell, the temp dress. JP is making it seem like he too fell for Micah's tricks. Like he was led in disin by her. And it's absolutely disgusting of him.

56:20DJ continues to apologize and says he'll take all of the responsibility. JP responds by asking, you think she wants to date you or marry you or anything like that? DJ says no and that he and Micah mostly talked that it was basic conversation. That they talked about Micah's new church and that they didn't even really talk about JP, which you know had to have upset JV, right? He likes people talking about him. He again cut off DJ with a question and you kissed her or she kissed you. DJ says it was a mutual thing and JP says, y'all were holding hands. DJ admits they yes, they were holding hands. JV comes back at him saying, well, you didn't mention that before when I asked you how you were touching each other. JP tells DJ that he knows he was holding hands with Micah for a long time. DJ agrees but says it wasn't the whole time, but it was longer than he had kissed Micah. DJ begins to apologize again and JP cuts him off yet again, saying, my guy says she grabbed

57:25your crotch. DJ repeats this question back to JP as if trying to understand why JP is saying something like this. JP says, yeah, that she put her hands on your junk. I'd say right about now, we all need a little palette cleanser to remind ourselves that JP is a pastor and he's on the phone with a church member and employee. At who knows what time in the morning, talking about whether this guy went to third base with his estranged wife who he's allegedly cheated on repeatedly. JP tells DJ to swear to God that that did not happen, which DJ does, saying that Micah's hand was on his leg at one point and that's it. Again, DJ starts to offer another apology and again, JP cuts him off, saying, he's going to check the photos and video to see if there's anything different from what DJ is telling him. And he asks DJ whether there's anything else he wants to tell him before he looks at that evidence. DJ then tells JP that both Micah and he were lying down in the sand at one point. JP immediately asks, you went top of her, she on top of you. DJ answers that they were lying side

58:31by side. JP then says, you know, I was making love to her four weeks ago and she told me that I was the best husband in the world. Reminder, four weeks prior to this, Micah was in the hospital. Also, JP is giving some real Facebook friends or my real friends energy here. You know, the kind who take offense if you don't like every photo of theirs and then think it means something really big when you do. And four weeks prior to March 11, Micah's October 2023 divorce filing was still in play. Now, in November of 2023, they began to work on the relationship again and Micah could have dismissed her filing back then or at any point in December or January. But she didn't. She kept it active until the day she was released from the hospital, which again, we wonder whether the timing of that indicates that she dismissed her filing and some sort of bargain with him to maybe get some of her things back. So JP then asks DJ whether he knows what JP has been through with Micah.

59:32And just like that, he says, you're going to take that from me. So let's pause right there because what take what from JP? What's he insinuating? You know what have been through with Micah. So what's he taking if he's insinuating that he's been through just hell and back with her mental issues? JP is acting like his marriage wasn't in shambles at that time and that Micah wasn't living somewhere else and that he hadn't tried to have her hospitalized again and that he hadn't taken her car. And again, he had just filed for divorce from her. JP is like, just like that, you're going to ruin my marriage. Yeah, he's blaming DJ for the ruination of his relationship in that moment. And then as if it were possible to make this any more weird, JP tells DJ that Micah had only slapped with one other man before him, her first husband. Remember, JP was friends with that husband while sleeping with Micah behind his back. So spare us the sanctumoni, please. JP then

1:00:33goes on to say he's the only other person Micah has ever kissed since her divorce. He says, so if she comes back in three months, six months, what's that going to feel like? This notion, by the way, is so gross, he's acting like Micah has been tainted. Beyond that, why would JP have any thought that Micah was going to come back when he had just filed to divorce her? DJ can barely get out his next apology. I'm so sorry, he says. And there's JP again using DJ's apology as an invitation to speak over him, or a year JP says, extending this fictional time in which Micah might return to him. Which, by the way, remember that JP has already told DJ that he and Micah are not separated. If they are not separated, what exactly does he mean when she returns to him? How can she return to someone she's not separated from? JP then tells DJ, and I warned you. You know I warned you.

1:01:34It appears that JP was saying that for the recording. Then he says, and you got mad at me when I warned you, you got defensive, and your mom got upset. She sent me a really, really mean text. JP continues after DJ agrees that yes, JP had warned him. JP tells DJ that he's trying to save him from the same thing that he quote, fell for. Again, JP is painting himself as a double victim here, as a victim of DJ's disobedience to his god, and Micah's spell. JP then tells DJ not to come to the church until he looks at the videos to see if DJ is telling the exact truth. DJ reiterates that they only cuddled, held hands and kissed. JP then says, okay, bye. But DJ continues to ask for another second. He tells JP that he feels horrible and understands if JP doesn't want him at the church even after watching the videos, then he essentially quits, saying that he doesn't think he can be there

1:02:35after everything that's happened anyway. JP agrees with him. I really did love you, JP says to him, and I really did believe that you'd take over the church for me one day as I started traveling and got older. I'm so sorry, it didn't work out that way. I'm just telling you, if Micah would do this with her first husband and Micah would do it with me, don't you think she'll do the same thing to you? DJ responds, I know. It was so incredibly stupid. JP seems to be laying the foundation for the future. Her, by the way, he seems to be ensuring that DJ won't try to return to Micah after all this. It feels like this rendezvous provided JP with his own personal narcissistic playground where he could toy around with other people and feel morally justified in doing so. He then says to DJ, I kind of feel like I want you to text Micah. He says he wants DJ to text her, you just committed adultery and talked me into doing it as well. And now I'm losing my job and everything because of it. DJ doesn't have a response to that, so JP asks him, what did you say to her whenever I

1:03:39kept calling, which obviously shows us that JP was repeatedly calling DJ that night. DJ tells JP that Micah told him not to answer, but that he knew he was going to have to talk to JP at some point in time. JP presses him, that's all she said. Don't answer? DJ says yes, then JP asks, did anything happen in Africa? DJ says no, hand on the Bible, no. JP asks if anything else happened between them before that night. Again, DJ swears it didn't, which is kind of stunning, right? That the drama on March 11th was all about this rated PG encounter that happened that night. One night on a night when JP's PI was supposed to be tracking Micah to see if she was going to a gun shop at two in the morning, well, JP says to DJ, let her know that she did it to another man, the same thing she did to two other men. The anger that boils up at that statement,

1:04:46to hear JP say this, knowing that Micah was just 15 years old when she says, 30 year old JP, a married father started showing interest in her, to hear him act like Micah is some deviant from making out with this guy when JP faces multiple accusations of adulterous affairs during his marriage to both Alison and Micah to blame her to post this online in what seems like an effort to hurt her family ahead of the settlement is just stunning because from where we sit, it looks like JP was in desperation mode from November 2022 forward. It looks like he was desperately trying to keep Micah while also wanting to live his life exactly the way he wanted, regardless of what it did to her where he got to do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted

1:05:46and go with whomever he wanted and Micah just had to accept it all as to quote JP his godly wife. Think about that what was put on the internet on purpose to win a settlement, a recording of himself a 44 year old pastor telling a young employee in the middle of the night that Micah was a woman who did this to two other men. A woman he first took interest in when she was 15 and he was a 30 year old married father of five. Two years later that campaign was answered by a federal grand jury. In December 2025 JP Miller was indicted on charges that he cyber stalked Micah from November 2022 until her death allegedly tracking her car, posting a nude photo of her online, interfering with her finances and the feds alleged he lied to investigators about it. He pleaded not guilty and his

1:06:47trial is set for October after six continuances and he's never been charged in a connection with Micah's death. Hold on to that need to make Micah the problem because in this episode ahead you're going to see how far back it goes and how far it went we're opening up JP's probate filings. Stacks of documents where JP and his own words describes the wife he claims he was trying to save and emails and medical records that tell a very different story about who was controlling Micah's healthcare, the doctor at the center of it, and the FOIA request Micah filed herself because she was already fighting to reclaim her own history. And we're going to take a hard look at the death of Chris Skinner and we'll walk you through with the months leading up to what authorities called Micah's suicide attempt before we arrive at the day that the federal agents knocked at JP Miller's door. JP called March 11th the day everything changed. He was right, just not in the way he meant.

1:07:48Until next time stay tuned stay pasky and stay in the sunlight. Co-wurst the devotion and death of Micah Francis Miller is a lunasherk production with reporting from journalists Mani Matney Liz Farrell and Beth Braden made possible by producers Kate Thomas, Grace Hills and David Moses. Learn more about our mission and membership at lunasherkmedia.com. Hello, I'm Quattice Max, drag dead. The Devil Wears Prada 2 is now streaming on Disney Plus and Hulu. We are digital, we are downloadable, we are streamable. The fashion event of the year is certified fresh.

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