#122 - Krista Hawkins • The Leader You Are Becoming

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Chris the story is one of steady growth resilience and purpose from a young girl navigating insecurity and searching for belonging to becoming a division one athlete

Counselor business leader and now a woman deeply grounded in faith and service

Her journey is filled with moments that will resonate with so many of you

She spent her life helping others whether through counseling coaching thousands of professionals leading in the health and wellness space

Mentoring young athletes are walking alongside families and leaders through some of their most challenging seasons

But what makes Chris the truly special is her heart her ability to connect her willingness to step into spaces that she doesn't feel qualified for

And trust that God would meet her there today

We're talking about her story the hard seasons the growth the faith the lessons learned and why telling your story

Might be the very thing that helps someone else step into theirs

Christa I'm so grateful that you are here with me today. I'm happy to be here with you my friends

Let's do this. This is I was saying before we hit record truly I get excited about all these but this one

I'm super excited about because you are one of one on so many lists and

And I like to start at the end. We typically most podcasts will go into I'll tell me about you know things from the past and we'll build and they kind of start slow

I want to go to the end when the final chapter is written and and Chris does book

What will people say what do you want people to say about you?

Hopefully good things

There's bad things. Oh, maybe we'll start there. I'm sorry. Am I gonna

I

Think number one. She loved Jesus. I definitely want people to remember that and

That I made a difference in this world like a positive difference in this world and

I don't know we

Wendy and I in our coaching program. We have people right there personal vision statement

There's a lot of businesses have vision statements, but my personal one is to be a woman who lives her best in most meaningful life

And and lives and leaves a legacy and so I would I would say that

Would be my final my final chapter there for sure and she can never ever remember her passwords

I love that you have that don't write them down. By the way, that's that's apparently a really bad thing to do apparently

But how else am I

Remember them change password

Anyone that knows you personally today would never ever use the word shy

Right or insecure

Well, you talk about growing up searching for affirmations and when you look back, what do you think?

What do you what do you wish that the younger version of you knew?

Believe in yourself, you know, you're you're enough. I think you know as a little kid

You're riding bikes and you're doing all the family things and things are fun and then you get into

That elementary school era, which is just so tough

For a lot of kids, you know boys and and girls and for me

That was such a tough season, you know, I was so skinny and shy and like mortified

I would get

stomach aches on Sunday nights because schools coming on Monday and oh my gosh

I did not want anybody to call on me like don't notice me don't you know don't see me

And so I think you know

Myself looking back now. I wish I could you know take that little girl's face and say you're enough

You know don't believe those those lies, you know, and that's what they are their lies from the enemy

And I think that would have changed a lot with my perspective, you know at that time as a as a young teen

So let's take some lessons there, right?

So in our space you work with a lot of

People who have insecurities. They don't feel worthy. They have the negative self-talk the imposter syndrome

So how has perhaps that you know a childhood crystal

You know evolved to who you are today and is is able to help you

Help others see the beauty in themselves

Mm-hmm. I think it's I mean it's positive empathy, you know for somebody because I do believe

That most of us struggle with this at some point in time in our life most of us. I would say

I mean if we're really being honest and getting into it, you know

I think probably all of us have struggled at some point in time in our life

You know with that insecurity and with the imposter syndrome like who am I to be here?

Like who am I to be sitting here doing a podcast with you like what is that all about um

I think we all struggle with that and so if we can just be authentic and honest

About that like where is that coming from and then how do we speak true to that and what can we become and of course

I believe like that all of that comes from you know a faith perspective, you know, I think the enemy attacks us

For sure in in our mind and and we have to stop those limiting beliefs and

What are we called to do because I feel like every single person is so unique

And that's two that that comparison can get into our our mindset to like I don't have the same gifts

That you do like I don't have the same skill sets

That you do but I'm operating in my own lane. You're operating in your own lane

We can encourage each other and lift each other up

But I don't have to become you and I think that that imposter syndrome comes into play because oh

I have to be just like this person

And therefore I'm not so I'm not enough

And I think we have to speak true to that and and just kind of work in our own giftedness

You know, what are we called to do really well? So that's kind of what I think about that

Yeah, and one thing you are called to do really well your fantastic at it is your coach your leader

And you know part of your past is you were a division one swimmer and you had a lot of coaches in your life

So talk a little bit about how coaches made an impact on you

And then you know what you took from those lessons where now you're such an amazing coach

hmm

I loved my path

With competitive swimming and so you know, I shared a little bit about that insecure shy

young girl and around age 12 my dad encouraged me to try out for the swim team

And it was a local area the purier area water wizards in Illinois

And and so I had to go to the diving well and try out and you had to swim all four strokes

And I was awful like I could swim across the diving well freestyle

And somewhat of a backstroke

But I didn't really know how to do breaststroke or butterfly

And so I made the team like the lowest level you could possibly make

Um as a 12 year old and I remember okay, this is supposed to help me

Believe in myself and there are all these you know girls and guys that are my age and they're

phenomenal swimmers because they've been swimming since they were yay high, you know five years old

um

But I had a great coach um my very first coach Mark

Rodikus he and I are still Facebook friends um he's on the east coast in the pennsylvania area

And you know, he was one of the first people that like allowed me to believe in myself, you know like you can do this

And there's hard work and there's teamwork and

There are people that you know these coaches

I mean, I remember his name and I remember him like so well

Mike Smithers was my next coach and he was phenomenal and I credit him

For helping me to get a college scholarship like he was way beyond his years in

In knowledge around how to how to swim competitively and be the best

I mean, we did all kinds of cool things um at that at that early, you know, those are like late 80s

um

That we the we were swimming in and practicing and all of that so I think they helped me

With confidence, you know, like that's you can do hard work and that's the other thing

It's not just skill you have to work on your skill

But you have to have that work ethic that goes along with it and that belief in self and that mindset because

When you're a competitive athlete like you're getting behind the blocks you've got to you could have all the training in the world

But if you're if your head isn't right

You're not going to do you're not going to do well and so I think just going growing up

You know in college had a great

coaching staff, you know dickhaws and steve fasca

Fantastic coaches and so you know, they that's another layer of believing in yourself and hard work

At a collegiate level and so I think you know just taking that into

My coaching I I have an athletic mindset. I'm a competitive highly competitive person internally

You can ask Wendy, you know, she's like oh lord christah

Um, but I I can't I can't give up, you know, I have to I have to achieve excellence. So a couple things

I did not have water wizards on my bingo card this week, so I can't mark that off

For the audience to say and shame on the I didn't mention in the intro

Future legacy partners is the name of christis company that she co-owns with Wendy Smith

So when you hear her talk about Wendy

That is the connection. So I should have mentioned that

So you've coached thousands of people

Leadership is such a confusing space and word

I guess let's start here. What's one truth about leadership that a lot of people get wrong

Hmm that people get wrong. Yeah, that they think is is true about leadership, but it's not

Um, that you have to do it on your own that you that you don't need

You don't need help you know like once you reach this leader

Status you're like on this island and you can't can't be authentic

You have to put on this armor

You have to know all the answers and you can't reach out for help. I think that's a mistruth

I love that answer

Yeah

What uh, let's stay there, you know, what let's

There's a leadership piece is fascinating and I think you know and because of people like you and Wendy

You know that that stigma is kind of going away right where it used to be

You know the the leader is out in front and the leader has all the answers and the leader can't show any weakness or vulnerability, right?

You know, what do you what do you see because you've been doing this for a minute right performance coach and and internally with a large company for a while

Then you transitioned out into your own

Um, what have you seen change

What other things have you seen changed through the years?

I

think that

You know with

Technology and the complexities of

Business and being a business owner certainly in that area that that we're familiar with right with

Small businesses insurance and financial services. There's lots of changes there

And there's no way you can do it all like there's no possible way you can do it all and be great at all those things

And so it's being honest with yourself on like what am I good at right like what am I gifted with what am I good at and what do I like

Doing and what do I need to be doing because there are certain things that only the leader can do

Even if you don't like it suck it up buttercup. You got to do it anyway

But there are things if you're not good at doing them or you don't like doing them you can hire two

Those things and so I think it's being honest with yourself and figuring out

Well, what is my definition of success? What is my definition of leadership and like starting there

And then you can break down your model like your your business model, you know from there unlike who you need

To hire and I think that's like number one, but also like as a leader

I think that most leaders are seeing now how important the culture of their businesses

I think super important like you've got to have

A culture of respect and trust and work ethic and accountability and fun too

Because it can't be all just like drivers, you know, you have to be a leader who is engaged

In your business even if you're a CEO type of leader, right?

You still have to be engaged and you still have to care like truly authentically care

About your people and you have to be consistent. I think

One thing about leaders that um will get you is if you're inconsistent if you know

You come back from a meeting and you're on fire and you're like we're gonna do all these things and you're hot for about a week

And then it trails off and so I do see that

Still happening, you know quite a bit or

Leaders now like understanding. Okay, it's important to have training

You you can't lie to your your employees and what I mean by that is in the interview

You're a tough and you're like why should you work for me? Basically, you know, and we're gonna provide all these things for you

And I know Scott you're like the best at this, you know with onboarding

Your program is fantastic fantastic and you have gotten it

You bring them in and you show them the love like you you're actually training them and empowering them

And inspiring them to do great work and so that training component is super important a lot of leaders lie

Right they come in and they're like okay sit with Susie for a couple of days job shadow do these modules and I'll meet with you in a month, right?

um

But then also the importance of developing your people two different things a lot of people get them confused

You need both training and you need development like how am I gonna port into you as a human being how do you connect

What you're doing with why it's important right the heart

But how do I help you become a better professional and improve your emotional intelligence and and your personal brand and you know

all of those things like having those connectors are really important and I see

More leaders investing, you know in that um and knowing how important that is I see leaders seeing now especially the importance of systems and processes

Because I mean there's just too much and you're putting yourself at risk if you don't have good systems and processes

So I'm seeing more leaders like investing in that

But on the flip side when I'm seeing them not do a good job at and I'm just

100-100

Accountability is still really hard for a lot of leaders

They're good at incentives

terrible

At consequences and accountability they they're almost afraid of it so

Long-winded answer there

That was a fantastic answer it's so funny because

When you started answering I made little notes because you can't trust your memory, right?

Right and the first note I made was a circle background on accountability

And then you ended with accountability as if we we share a brain but before I do that I want to

Hit a couple other things. I noted

Yeah, this idea of love leave it will love leadership

It's my favorite right just just love on your people

You know and it's the opposite obviously a fear-based leadership

Which we thought you mentioned the word consequence, you know do it or else

You know and that will work for a little while right because if someone puts a gun to your head

You're gonna do whatever the hell here she says right that's fear-based leadership

But that doesn't always lead to long-term results

Right and so love leadership and then you also hit on something powerful which is to be unclear as unkind

And we do this a lot where we just assume that people know where they understand and we throw them in a situation

Before they're properly trained and then developed

And we can dive into more of that

But I do want to circle back around to accountability because in my opinion

That's the hardest part

You know you can certainly find people who are self-accountable

Yeah, which is amazing. We know but

Really that's that's what a coach does that's what a trainer does is I'm gonna hold you accountable

To the things that we agreed mutually agreed are important for you

Um

So let's dive into Christa's

Philosophy and accountability and maybe some action items people can take

Okay, so accountability is a skill right so we can practice that we can get good at it

And the first thing that we have to do is get a mindset around

Accountability is a positive thing

Accountability isn't a negative word. It is not a neg it. It's not a bad word

And I think it gets a bad rap right

So accountability is a positive thing

I think we all crave accountability and we all thrive better

In an environment where we're holding ourselves accountable

We're holding our teammates accountable our leader is holding us accountable

And we're holding our leader accountable too

So it's it's top down bottom up and side side to side really and so I think um

It starts number one with like do you know what you're supposed to be doing like are we clear about your role in your

Responsibilities in in your role if there's no clarity if there are fuzzy lines or if it's this way this week

And this way another week

How are you supposed to hold yourself accountable to that how's a leader supposed to hold somebody accountable to that

So we got to know what lane that we're swimming in right

So that's number I think that's number one and then

Am I trained in that area right have I been given the proper training and role modeling

impracticing and do I know my resources and you know my lifelines there

Do I have systems and processes to follow in there you know?

Do I know exactly when I'm supposed to do a step by step and then if all those check out

That's awesome and then I need to know what my goals are so what are the big you know the big goals for the company

And then broken down what am I responsible for that funnels into that big goal?

I need to see the big thing

I need to see how I fit into that picture

But I think as a leader too

You've got to be really clear on what you want your people to do

What are their expectations for meeting those goals?

And then do I have the proper like marketing funnel right if I'm in charge of sales in a particular area

Do I know my lead lists and how am I working those and do I have the right word tracks, you know to be able to

Get a button a chair and do I know the right word tracks to be able to have a good conversation right and do I have the confidence in myself to ask for the sale

Right, that's a whole another mindset, you know thing and so that as a leader you've got to be coaching

To all of those pieces too. So you have to have your finger on the pulse

There and you know if I have goals then now as a leader it's much easier for me

To hold my people accountable because I'm going to be consistent and having a one-on-one meeting

And I'm gonna and you're gonna look forward to it. It's not going to the principal's office

It's not oh, I'm I'm scared to come in and talk to Scott

You're gonna sit down with me if you're my leader and you're gonna ask me hey

What's going well for you? It's gonna give me a time to brag on myself to tell you things that you might not know

But also for you to be mindful and curious always and jotting down hey

I heard Chris to do this and this was really great, you know

So you're gonna bring that up in my one-on-one two and that's gonna tell me hey my leader cares about me

He's listening, you know for the things that I'm doing well

And then you're gonna ask me where are you getting stuck?

And I like those words those are easy, you know on the on the brain

I feel like and so I can say hey, I'm kind of getting stuck here

And then as a leader you can train me right then and there

Right then and there and if this is gonna take longer or you're not the person, you know for me to sit down and train with

It gets scheduled on the calendar

So I feel like okay great Scott hears me

I'm gonna get help in this area and you as a leader know okay, we're taking care of this so that Chris that feels confident

And she's trained up and then the accountability comes in okay your goal is this where you at if you're ahead

Awesome tell me how you're getting there as a leader

I need to know the behaviors that I'm doing to get me there because you want me to continue those behaviors

And if I can't connect that and understand that then you know next month may be really different, right?

If I'm on track awesome, what are you doing to stay on track if I'm behind

Okay, tell me what's getting in your way and then that way we can get in there and we can do surgery

We can figure out what is wrong and

And rectify that and then it's okay. What's our action steps and so that's it for accountability and

It works. It works. It works. It works. It works if you work it

Yeah, right and and it's you know, it's it's almost you know, it's it's like a book

It works if you read it. It's like a gym membership works to be go

But this is a it takes work and it's a process and

You know, I jotted then use the word stuck. I use the word obstacle right tell me about the obstacles your face and are the challenges

Because you know winnings easy

We find out what we're made of when we see this a little adversity and from a coaching standpoint

We want to step in and you know spend our time on on you know or the surgery on the the things where you are stuck are the obstacles

You know the word consequences you mentioned earlier and

You know, I don't know if the word consequences

even needs

To come up

The system you just explained because what I found using that system is that because of the clear communication and the daily conversations and accountability

People will self eliminate

You know, they don't need to be told they're they're struggling every day like every day they feel it and and you're working

Towards it and for whatever reason they're just not

progressing right and and so then the consequences become obvious and do you agree with that?

I absolutely agree with that. I think those self select themselves out of the the job and I think too

You know if I'm full of excuses and I'm not following through and this is not going to be the job for me right and it's

It's going to be easy for me to go away

You're not going to have to terminate me because I'm going to leave and I think you know if you set up clear expectations

Up front like we're going to be meeting and if I'm continuing to not hit my goals and you're working with me

And we're doing time blocking and you're doing you know focus time and I'm sitting with Susie and role playing and like all the things

And it's still not working then either I have a

Competency issue like I'm just not a good fit for this role because of my competency level or it's fact that I'm just not cut out for this

I'm not trying

Yeah, and again that goes back to honesty and clarity. I tell

Everyone that works for me 90% and I don't think that's an a stretch or hyperbole

90% of the humans on the planet cannot do what I need my employees to do at a high level

It's a hard job right so let's let's start there right so it's it's not

You personally and because not all behavioral characteristics, you know, everyone's wired the same to do

We're not built to do the same things

So yeah, I think that's part of the honest conversation up front too. There's so many things I love about future legacy partners

I admittedly am the least organized

least detailed oriented person on the planet earth

So now you met that person

I've done a really good job of surrounded myself with people who are

And then I just show up and do the fun stuff

And so what I loved about your program a couple things it's very detailed

It's very step-by-step you've got you give the playbook you give the instructions

You literally are in the trenches with your people holding their hand guiding them along the way

But then it's also there for them afterwards right like I feel like you're always part of the the future legacy family

But the other thing I really love and this is your jam

Is you take a holistic approach with diet and exercise and nutrition and movement throughout the day

And I 100% believe studying

Common denominator success habits throughout every industry

That this is one of them right the most productive efficient successful people in any industry

Focus in on what you're about to talk about so

Why is that so important to you that I think it's a whole chapter like in and everything that every program you offer right it comes up

It is and I mean there's nothing more important in life than taking care of yourself

You know physically if you just go back to the airplane analogy

I'm on the airplane like every week

It seems like and they're like put the oxygen mask on yourself first and then and then others

But it's really true in a physical sense, you know what you're eating and what you're drinking and

You know exercise physical activity. I mean all of that is important

But also the mental part, you know is is just as

Important, you know for me. It's mental and spiritual is just as important and if you aren't sleeping well

That's gonna affect you greatly as a business owner as an employee as a human being walking around in this earth

And if you're not managing your stress and you don't have good

coping strategies if you're eating poorly and you're eating late at night and you're not feeling your body with

good nutritious

Food that's gonna affect how you feel, you know, and it's gonna affect your health for sure in the long run

But you know if you're not drinking water half your body weight now and since the water every day

Is what our body needs or going outside and just getting sunshine like actual vitamin D is so important

For us and then moving your body and I always say you know, you're like oh, I hate exercise

Well, what do you like to do to move your body? You know whether it's like outside

You know trimming bushes or you know if you don't like running then don't run

Find something else that you like to do. I think that's super important

And then of course I'm a big fan of either meditation or prayer

Go to therapy go talk to a therapist. You know to work out some of that stuff

So that you are holistically the best

Person in that leadership role or the best person in that seat, right? So that's important. Yeah, you know, it's

More important than ever going forward in this digitally dominated world and you know, I feel like one shift

Post-COVID is maybe it was just in our worlds, but I feel like people started working more

Because we were able we turned our homes into our offices and I know for me

I just I created this habit of

Okay, like

Dinner's done, you know kids are older now like they go off and do whatever and I'm like oh, well, I just go back to work, right? I have this space and

So you mentioned getting out in nature, right there there are

endless scientific studies of just

Preshare sunlight feet on the ground literally on the ground, you know

Being being there hydration and and the one you hit on that I think most people just kind of

Yeah, you know whatever the sleep

Um, you can eat right you can exercise you can do all the things

But if you don't give your body sleep like six I shouldn't say six seven seven solid hours

Um of sleep consistently and all just goes to crap, you know

And and so going back to the digital

So how many people fall into the routine of like scrolling in bed or right before bed and that blue light is

Just crushing your what is it the circadian rhythm or whatever and so it so I think your your nighttime routine

Is probably the most important. I'm a big morning routine guy

But my the older I get the nighttime routine sleepy time tea

reflections meditations prayer

Reading instead of scrolling

It all really helped me the next day

It does it it sets you up for restful sleep and you know if you can try to not eat

About three hours before bad time and you know blue light glasses

You can you know, I'll pull up my Instagram and I'll look at funny reels, you know

Before I go to bed and I laugh and I send those to my friends and they send those to me

And then I'm done. I sleep like a baby

Um, and I think it's just you know that reflection on the day

Setting your intention for good sleep and two

I mean, I think we got to talk about you as you age

It sleep becomes a little bit harder like you know, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that like I'm gonna be 55 this year and things

Don't work in your fifties the way that they did in your thirties, you know, it's just a fact of the matter and so

I take magnesium glycinate every single night and you know, a whole nother side conversation hormone, you know

I can't I can't I can't help you with that

For the women out there listening to this

Definitely it is a game changer a game changer for sure with your sleep

Let's talk about legacy right so you you kind of

Put an anchor right the foundation of your your business right that legacy piece. What does the word legacy mean to you?

It's what you're living and what you leave behind and I think it's so important

It's how and when I say it's like what you're living you're living your legacy

So when people look at you

What do they see you know, not just like your words and like what you say or what your job is or what your job title is but

What do they see in you and are you what are you living out and then you know your legacy is what you leave behind and

For me, I'm a mom, you know, I have two girls and they're pretty well baked and now you know

23 almost 24 and I have a 21-year-old surprise god everybody's legal

So that's a good thing

I think about I think about them, you know

And as they enter in to you know this young womanhood and start their start their lives and hopefully one day

We'll get married and have kids, you know too

What are they learning for me that they'll pass down?

You know that they will start walking through those things themselves and then pass down. I think that's so important

Yeah, I want to shift when that's the early shift, but just I want to talk about story

Yeah, but you were super kind and I don't want to say brave because it's just who you are

But you know you shared your story with me and then you know what where you want the future of your story to go

Why is it so important for people to share their stories?

Oh, it's so important because

Well, like I said earlier, we're all different and we're all unique and we're gifted, you know differently

But I think if we can be authentic and when we're in relationship with people

To share not just the surface level things, you know, we can connect on such a deeper level

You know, there might be something that I've gone through

In my life that you have gone through to or maybe are struggling with or maybe you know somebody going through that

That you can be like, okay, she went through that and this is what she did

To to work through that in a positive way

Maybe that gives me, you know, hope right or I can be a connector. I think

We need to be good connectors as human beings. We got to be better connectors and

Hey, I know somebody who's going through this. Would you mind talking to them?

And the only way we're going to be really real with each other get rid of all this fake stuff and

The anger that we see, you know nowadays and the division that we see I feel like I mean if you boil it all down

We all have this innate desire to be loved and to give people love and if we can be real

With sharing our story

That's only going to better us but also I think there's a lot of healing

That happens by sharing your story there are parts of my story that I don't not like I do not like

I wish I could go back and tweak and change those parts but I can't right and so

By sharing some of those things it helps me heal in a healthy way like forgive myself for those mistakes

I mean we all screwed up right some bigger mistakes than than others

But we can forgive ourselves and then become who we're supposed to be instead of

Staying stuck in those lies or those mistakes and not becoming who we're supposed to be

So powerful um, you know, you talked about so many things throughout this conversation whether it be

Meditation prayer healing

Self-expression

Right, so the power of story which I agree you mentioned talking to someone right with this is becoming less taboo

But probably not as you know, prevalent as it should be with our normalcy of it

Because it's so powerful

You know and part of

Just acknowledging those those pieces of us that we're not proud of helps the healing

It doesn't

Stay trapped inside of us and hold us back right? It's subconsciously. That's it's doing that

And that's all to say

Where do people start like right if I'm listening to this and I go yeah, I get it

But like hot how do I tell my story like where do you suggest people start?

Well, one of the easiest things to do is to just get out a notebook a piece of paper

And start at the beginning and what are some key significant things that have occurred in your life

And you just start writing them down

As far back as you can remember

Think about you know

What you were born into think about your parents and

You know how they how they raised you what were their belief systems what

Type of socio economic status where you born into what kinds of things were you exposed to

What are some of the the important things that happened to you?

You know in your life the the great things the challenging things the hard things you just start writing those down

And you know almost like almost like bullet points because I think it can feel overwhelming at first

So just start writing things down

And then you can organize them and and come back to it because you're like oh my gosh

I can't believe I forgot about that job, you know that that I did you know

I forgot about that poor that part of my life um

And then I think when you think about your story then um how how is it shaped you you know what

Um, what about your story made you stronger?

What about your story made you more wise or or more resilient what kinds of things

Would you want to leave behind do you want to forgive yourself for

And what things do you want to make sure that you you know take forward in in share life and so

I just think your story is important and too

If you have a family, you know, if you have people that care about you they may want to read about your story

One day and I know I'm finding that um, I did uh, we got gifted um that ancestry, you know, dot com

Whatever so I was like oh, okay, I'm gonna do it

And I am fascinated

You know buy it, you know, you'd look at your

lineage, you know, my maiden names to Croy. I'm like for sure. I'm French. Well, yeah, you know, I mean it's it's cool to see

But I'm like looking at this ancestry dot com. Okay, it's got and it's just people

It's just these little pictures of people and they lived a whole life and they have a whole story behind them

Just a picture and I have no idea

Any um anything about them other than what it says in that little blurb

So if you write it down

Somebody will have that and be able to pass that along. Yeah, this I use this I'm glad you brought this up

I use this exercise a lot

To reduce my ego and help people reduce theirs and also

Reduce their fear of rejection and you're obviously gonna be a lot more

Qualified to do this than most of the so I'm gonna set the context for this exercise. We're gonna do this together

Um

Do you feel you know your your mothers or fathers side better

Mothers, okay, so on your mother's side. What was the first name of your

grandfather

Um moms it was Dorothy and Charles. Okay, so Charles what was his father's name

Charles was Charles

Okay, all right, so there's a reason

What was his father's name?

I can't remember I have to go and look at so you were able to get

To generate you know two generations you got right most people only get one

Yeah, and even with two generations your great-grandfather

Right or guys. I guess you would have been great-great-grandfather was probably born if I had a guest somewhere in the like mid-18 hundreds

Yeah, um, you know, so

150, you know, so years ago whatever

And you don't know his name and this is two generations removed from you

And and so I do this exercise to remind us of how small we are

And you know, we get stuck in our own recency bias and ego and we think like all everything we do or don't do is gonna

Make the biggest difference in the world and we get so trapped and scared and I'm like

A hundred years from now your great-grandchildren won't even know your freaking first name

You're right like what are you scared of like go live the life you want to live

So it's hopefully that helps someone but it's how it helps me

You know, I use the phrase just let it rip, you know, I'll plan because you know, even if I fail

You know, he's gonna remember right no one knows those details

So what a fun conversation I knew it would be we ended with rapid fire questions sometimes they're rapid sometimes they're not but

I'm gonna throw you the list

And I'm confident you'll crush it morning routine or go with the flow

Morning routine. All right. Well, I'm gonna go I'm gonna piggyback on that one

So what's your favorite if you can if someone doesn't have a morning routine? What's one thing that you suggest?

Everyone does first thing in the morning

First thing in the morning get up and have gratitude. What am I thankful for yeah?

I have a gratitude journal or two you know, your mind will subconsciously go out go throughout the day

Looking for a happy moments or things to be grateful for when it knows in the morning is going to be asked to reflect on that

And suddenly you start seeing things in a different light

Because you're looking for it, which is amazing

You mentioned, you know, you don't have to go to the gym or do crazy workouts to stay active

What is Christa Hawkins favorite way to stay active?

Mmm, I love to stay active

So I go to the gym and I have a personal trainer that downloads my workouts in this little app

And I put in my earbuds and listen to a podcast usually or I meet my friends

At the gym and I do you know different weight training, you know, workouts and then

My daughter got Pilates certified at body rock and it's that big machine

You know the reformer machine. So I have to be supportive and I got a membership at this Pilates studio with a bunch of

20 year olds that have little matching outfits

You know, and I'm like I'm giving in my best shot, but you know, I laugh

I'm like Chinese Chinese things. I did a retreat recently

For female business owners and I signed up for Ariel yoga

And I'm like why not like I'm gonna give it a shot and it was it was fun and terrifying

But very fun yeah, I pictured myself doing Ariel yoga just now

And it was just like this big cannonball just fall into the earth and everyone shook and

But what is one word your family would use to describe you?

Healthy

And it wouldn't and it probably wouldn't be in a nice context

Go to bible verse or life quote oh right here

I don't know if you can see behind me

But Galatians six nine and it says let us not become weary and doing good for at the proper time

We will reap a harvest if we do not give up. So that's Galatians six nine. All right. All right

She's got it on the wall behind

I have it on the wall my friend who's an artist and so that was awesome. What's your biggest personal growth area right now?

Right now I am writing a book and

Wow, that has been a challenging experience. So a lot of personal growth. I started in

May it's a workbook that partners with a book that's been out and then I wrote a leader guide

That goes with it and

There's so much to that world which you know you've written and you know all these books

I mean, it's not just about I'm gonna write something and like let it go

So that I will say that the challenge for you that's much different than anything

I've ever faced in that space is

You are helping someone else with their story

Which I'm sure adds a whole nother level of complexity and and fear

Not wanting to mess it up for someone else me. I'm like. I have my story sucks. It's just about me who cares

What is something people might be surprised to learn about you

Hmm

Let's oh this is a good one

I have the biggest fear of going over bridges bridges over water my my hands sweat

And I mean my husband like jokes about it now like we go over these big bridges

You know we go home to Illinois from Tennessee and he's like

No hands and I'm like put your hands on the wheel, you know

Listen, that's real. That's common. That is also my wife and you know

We did the trip of a lifetime where we flew into Seattle

Kids were at the perfect age. We rented a mini van

And we spent three weeks going down the coast from Seattle through Oregon through the Redwoods

We stopped in Napa obviously

And then and my wife's a control freak and she loves the drive and I'm fine with that

So she drove the whole way 1100 miles or something like that we put on this mini van

She stops about

500 feet in front of the Golden Gate Bridge

Yeah, it's over in in all this and she goes, okay, you're turning the drive. I'm like what?

Like she's been driving for like two and a half weeks

I even have to see the Justin now. She just

For the Golden Gate Bridge, so oh my gosh

I've been over the Golden Gate Bridge in New York. I'm like my hands sweat

So bad. I have those you know the glass breakers that you see on infomercials

I have them in our cars

Attached to the to the visor

So hey listen, I get it. I'm afraid of heights and you know

We went to the Grand Canyon

It said like Grand Canyon 10 miles ahead and I started getting anxiety. I'm like, okay, that seems like it's close enough

You know

That's good

And what's nice is that I I mean, I'm a competitive swimmer like I know how to swim

Trapped in a car and so I need to know that I can get out

I didn't mean to get too deep in that one

There you go. All right, two more. What's legacy in one word?

Legacy and one word

Your life

Okay, and then what's next for Christa?

Hmm

Well, publishing this

Workbook and the leader guide and all of that is coming very soon like within the next couple of months

So I feel like I'm drinking from a fire hose with that

I love it. I'm personally

Vitus exciting. It's exciting and they're going to be making a movie out of that book and so who knows

What is coming over the next, you know, year or two with probably a red carpet in your future

Yeah, well, I will only because Lexi is a personal stylist. So she will keep me dressed

You know

Pilates and personal stylists

Then I've just surrounded my greatness. I know my youngest daughter. She's gonna go into

She wants to be an anesthesiologist like the nurse the CRNA

So she's almost done with college and so I'm like well one will be able to put me to sleep and then the other one will be

Well, I'm good

Christa Hawkins always the pleasure. I am

honored and humbled to call you a friend and obviously you've been a mentor to me and

You know, let's not forget the other side of the duo here with Wendy Smith say hi to Wendy

Future legacy partners if you guys are in the market for just

You guys are just real, you know, and that's what I love about it like you you you you're genuine

You're sincere you care like it's all just very real start to finish

Not pushy. Christa does the sales

So if you want to get sold schedule a call with her because she will sell you

But I went into my call just knowing I was gonna I'm like all right. Let's do the you know

The little dog and pony show here, but just get to the part we take my credit card

And yes, and I will do that. I will

I have to feed my family for sure

But only if we're the right fit of course and so worth it. So thank you for your time, Christa. Thanks Scott

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