154: Great Awakening Show with Joanne-Divine Life Yogini - Episode 154

Welcome to the Great Awakening Ministry. I am Minister and Yogyini Joanne Lee. And on this

week show we have Bronwyn Logan. Raky author and teacher Bronwyn Logan is a co-founder of the

International House of Raky and has worked with the Raky system and researched its Japanese

origins across Europe, Asia, North America, Australia and Japan. Bronwyn now resides in the Blue

Mountains near Sydney, Australia and has since launched her initiative Raky with Bronwyn to further

explore and teach the practice. She continues to share her extensive knowledge and experience

with the Raky Practitioners worldwide. The Raky source book revolutionised the Raky community

with its comprehensive coverage of history, practice and philosophy of the Raky system 20 years ago.

It meticulously tracks every significant aspect from the system's inception in early 1900s

Japan to the West and back to Japan. This new anniversary edition of the Raky source book

celebrates the depth of research and clarity that this book has brought to the Raky community,

with an introduction for beginners and a chronological history that answers questions like

where did the achievement process come from and which hand positions are correct. These pages

explain and illustrate the techniques from both Japan and the West. This is a definitive manual

for anyone with a particular interest in the system of Raky. Japanese healing practices

or a more general interest in complementary health. Wow, I just want to say, Bronwyn,

welcome to the Great Awakening Show. Thank you, Joanne. It's going to be lovely. We've got so

many wonderful questions and, you know, first of all, Bronwyn, please give our audience a little bit

about what Raky is. It's origin, it's benefits, philosophy, a little bit how it works.

Oh, wow, that's a lot. Okay, let me have a think. Where do I start? Well, I guess, you know,

probably the most important thing is sort of like, what is it? Because I think there's a lot of

misunderstandings and there have been a lot of misunderstandings about what it is. And that's

been part of my journey in trying to educate people about the history of the system so that we

could get a better understanding of where we are right now and where we're heading with it as well.

So I think it's always really a great idea to have a good understanding of whatever practice

is that you're doing, right? That we have some sort of grounding in something, rather than as just being,

you know, off of the fairies, I guess, you know, it's very easy to really enjoy that sort of

free-flowing mind, intuitive aspect of life. But we always still need to have that really grounded

sensation at the same time. So the system of Raky is a practice that comes from Japan and it started

in the early 1900s. There was a man who began it and he began it really as just sort of like his

own personal meditation practice. And then he started teaching other people how to do that because

they were interested in what he did. He actually came from a samurai family. And yeah, but the

samurai's at the time when he was born was just when Japan was going through an enormous change.

It had been close to the outside world for a couple of hundred years and the emperor at that time

when Mikau Yusui, that's the founder, when he was born, they actually, the emperor and the

empress opened up Japan to the world. So he also closed down the samurai families because

they were sort of a different, he was looking for a different way of being in the world, I think,

and the samurai families were the very elite families. And they, as we know, you know,

ninjas and all that sort of thing. It sort of like passed down through the samurai families,

all these different skills. And so Mikau Yusui came from that, but then it was all disbanded.

So he was a samurai from his, they practiced Raky. Well, no. Not that late. I mean, what we know is

that he says it himself actually in one of the manuals that we've got where they've

translations of things that he's, he said about the practice. You know, he said that it started off

with Japanese samurai families had these skills that passed down, but then the samurai

families were disbanded. So what happened was that most of these people who knew these skills,

they went off and they started teaching them just in schools, rather than keeping them privately

secretly in the family. So if you think of things like some Japanese practices,

Kendo where they have the swords, Ikeido, judo, they all came from samurai families originally.

And then they, because they couldn't still practice them in their families, they started schools

with them. And that was in the early 1900s. Wow. So what we know about the system of Raky is that

he says that that happened. But he also says that it was something new that he created.

So it may have had aspects of things that he had been learnt. He had, you know, that he'd learnt.

But also just through his own practice, he sort of developed that further. So I think it's a mix

of things. And definitely a blending of Japanese elements like shintoism, which is the

folk religion of Japan, where they really, you know, they feel that there's the,

that everything has this essence of divinity inside of it. So whether it be a rock or a tree or

a person, we all have it. And that's a really beautiful, yeah, it's a really beautiful idea.

And then there's Buddhism, obviously, and there's lots of different forms of Buddhism in Japan.

And all of these things have come together in Japan and have created a lot of different practices.

So he was influenced by a lot of that. And bit by bit, he developed a practice. And as I said,

it started off as a meditation practice for yourself. So that's coming to the point of what the

hell is this started off as something for yourself, right? And then it became something that he was

teaching other people. So he was looking for ways to make that connection for people, to experience

what he was experiencing. And what he was experiencing was he'd found practices to help him

let go and really connect with nature, if you like, with the universe, finding ways at becoming

one with the world around him and really just sitting into that. And you know, that goes by so

many names. It goes by enlightenment, you know, it's just one of them. God, connection with the God

for the connection with the spirit. So he was helping people find that. And in finding that,

he said, this is a system as he started working with people. He started to realize he could put

together a system that would help people to work on themselves, that they could find this

natural balance in themselves. And that they could then also help other people with that.

Today, I think the system of rakey is known very much for the hands-on healing aspect. So that

would be the thing that you would do to someone else to help, help them allow their energy to

let go, to free up, to find its own natural balance, which is just like if you think we're in this

world and we have, you know, everything is flowing in its own way inside of us. But we have a lot

of issues. We've all got issues, right? So all the issues get in the way of that beautiful natural

flow of energy and natural way of being. So if we think of ourselves like that, we can also see the

universe like that. And we are, we are a part of the universe. Obviously, we're not separate to it.

So we sit inside it and it has this lovely natural flow. We have this lovely natural flow.

And sometimes though we feel disconnected and you use the word connection before, you know,

sometimes we feel that disconnection from the world around us and we forget and we become tighter

and and have more obstacles in our way, stopping us from really just being able to let go and be

at one with with nature and and the natural flow of the universe. That's sort of where we see

ourselves heading when we're practicing the system of rakey. There's a lot more to it, but hey,

that's sort of that's sort of beautiful. That is so beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. And and so please

describe, I mean, your incredible book. So you had the first edition, the rakey source book,

that sold over 50,000 copies. This is amazing. And now it's the new revised, you're you're

launching the new revised edition that addresses the integration of rakey with other healing

modalities and healthcare practices, which is really important. Can you describe

the rakey source book? Is it is it difference so much from the last from the original?

Not so different. I mean, when I was writing the introduction to it, I did say that I didn't want to

what is the word, I forgot the word now, but I didn't want to rewrite history. Yeah, because in

many ways, that's what it is. It it tells about the history. It tells where, for example,

when I first learnt the system of rakey, and that was like 25 years ago, when I did that, I

I was taught a number of different practices. And I was asking my teacher like, also, where do

these practices come from? You know, what what is that? Why do we do it like that? And the teacher

couldn't answer that, which is fair enough, because there wasn't really that information there

to find those answers anyway. So, these were the sort of things that I was really interested

in researching and finding out about. So that for anyone, anyone like me, anyone who took a rakey

course, no matter where they were or what type of rakey, that they could actually go, oh, so

I just learnt this practice. What does that mean? Where does it come from? When was it introduced

into the system? By whom was it introduced? And what's the purpose of this? So really being able

to find a lot more grounding once again in your practice. Yep. And that's what the rakey source

book is. So there in a way, there's not so much to change in the rakey source book, because that

is history. And it is what it is. And it talks about the different types of teachings that exist

today, where they will come from, how they branched off, how this one became this one, this one,

this one, and there's an enormous glossary in the back where you can look up any people,

practices, anything that you like. So, yeah, it is a book that really, this book that's come out

is a celebration of the fact that it's been around for 20 years. Wow. And it's still this really

vibrant. Yeah, it's still so relevant, vibrant. And I hope that in it coming out, it's lovely

and you cuddle. And I haven't got a copy here to show you, I'm sorry, but they haven't sent

me one yet. And it's just, it just came out today, actually, in the UK, but you can pre-order it

on any hands on any way. And the thing is that, yeah, it's there for, I think also a new audience,

there's always new people coming along into the practice, trying to find out things for themselves

and not knowing where to look. So, yeah, that's absolutely beautiful. And I like that it

incorporates the, you know, the healing modalities and modern healthcare practices as well.

You know, I mean, it's an absolute encyclopedia, a manual for, you know, this, it's really is,

it's just what it is, it's the source book for Raky, everything you ever want to know, you've

done so much research. You know, it's from all around the world, it's absolutely beautiful,

really is. And so I tell you what, I find it hard to remember all those things myself. So yeah,

that's why you have to put it in a book. Brilliant, brilliant, that's so good. And so what,

please tell us, Bronwyn, what are the five core elements of the Raky system?

Yeah, I mean, this was really interesting. So like I said, when I started, I was given

different practices, but there wasn't this sense of a cohesive practice, right? And,

and yet we know that when the guy, you know, when, when Mikao Sui, the founder started that, you

know, he was putting these things together to help people. He had this idea of, you know,

what sort of a practice he wanted. But for us in our modern day world, we didn't have a lot of

information about that and how it was put together. And also seeing how it, it really spread its

wings when, well, at least one of the teachers, the major teacher here in the West, Hawaii,

Takata, when she died in 1980, she had studied it in Japan. She died in 1980 and she left a number of

teachers behind and they all seem to just spread out and take it into their own worlds, which meant

that there was an enormous amount of diversity in the practice. And there wasn't really a cohesive

idea of what this is because a lot of people took it into different new age practices, for example.

So it was sort of linked in with other things, but it didn't have its own world, really. So

this was really interesting. And by researching, going back and looking at what different

teachers taught. So what we knew that the founder had taught, then his students had written books,

his peers had written books, people who'd studied with him. So, you know, that there was a lot

of information around him as well. And there's also an association that existed in Japan,

which was put together near the end of his life, we understand. And that association still exists

today in Japan. So there's different places we can find information. And there was a memorial

stone as well, this beautiful big, you know, I don't know, two meter high or more memorial stone

engraved into this great, the story of his life. And that's been a great thing to hold onto.

But interestingly, it was the language, the kanji. So the Japanese writing that is on it

is actually pre-World War II. So it's a different type of kanji, a more complex kanji than

what's written today, which means that for a regular person today to read that is actually quite

difficult. We still have obstacles in the sense of someone who can actually read the memorials.

Then translate it. So there's always these little sort of hurdles that we need to overcome to

actually really get to to grips with the history of how it came together. So the five elements are

things that France, France, stand in my ex-husband who breaks up with me and researched it with me.

He and I put together these ideas. So we looked at what we knew existed in all the different

teachings that were called raky or were around raky had come from raky. And we found these

these elements that were consistent across the board. So the first one I guess the most important

one possibly is just some precepts. They're just simple, very simple guidelines. Joanne, do you

know the raky precepts? No, you do. Yeah. No, you don't. They're really simple. But today only,

it begins with, yeah. But today only do not anger, do not worry, be grateful, be true to yourself,

and be compassionate to yourself and others. So simple to say, not so simple to practice,

but simple to say. And we sort of worked out that if we were these precepts,

if I was that, if just for this moment, I was not angry, this is a worry, I was totally compassionate,

true to who I am, if every moment of my life was that, then I would be in that state that we

talked about in the beginning, in that state of oneness, in that state of enlightenment,

of pure connection with the universe, because I wouldn't be holding on to any issues or worries

or fears. So it seemed that these precepts were sort of like the ideal of the practice. So that

was the first element. It was another part of that, which is really interesting. And that is,

well, there's meditation practices, as I said, in the meditation practices, there's some different

ways of practicing. And traditionally in Japan, I'll just show you a book I've got traditionally in

Japan. They would, they would practice poetry in their meditation. So this is a book by the

Empress of the time. And she wrote, she wrote over 30,000 poems, and they're all quite short

poems. They would, they would, they would say them over and over. They could repeat them,

and they, they're actually called waka, what means Japanese, can't mean song. So it is like a

chant. Yes, so it's like yoga chant on them too. So absolutely. Yeah. To take you into

same time concentration and then further into meditation. Wow. And really deep contemplative

poems. So both the Empress, and also there's a book with the Empress, with the Empress

poetry as well. And he wrote over 100,000 poems. So in the early 1900s, because they everyone

revered the Emperor, and the Emperor revered his people. Then there was this mutual respect and love

and desire to learn. So he would be giving these poems to help his people and the people would

then, as you say, recital chat, you know, contemplate these poems. In fact, martial artists

those days used to go out at a full moon, and they'd go out in the middle of the night, and they'd

sit and they'd look at the full moon, and they'd recite the poetry to the full moon. Beautiful.

Quite sort of romantic, I think, and possibly not how we sort of see martial arts today. But

within the system of raky, there were meditations also with these poems in it. So there were meditation

practices, and meditation practices were very much about expanding and generating more energy in

the body for the self and also for others, though that you could work with other people. And this

idea of greater energy, greater key is that the greater the flow of energy in our body,

that it starts to move and shift the things that we don't need to hold inside of us, to allow ourselves

to really get back to that sense of, you know, that sense of whilst with everything.

So that was sort of the precepts, there's the meditation practices, and some healing, which lots of

people know. So, you know, that's a beautiful tool, and it's a way with also very popular in the early

1900s in Japan, not just in raky. Lots of people were doing it, and there were teachers who had,

you know, hundreds of thousands of students, not raky. Raky was actually like, I think he had about

2000 students within the system of raky. So, a much smaller practice, but the, yeah, some of the

teachers had enormous groups, and they would travel around, and from town to town, and everyone

would come and meditate together, and then practice hands on healing on each other. So,

the healing is really using the tools. Yeah, yeah, because

I'd like to go into the hands on healing a little bit, because, you know, how well, you know,

I'd really like to know, because we all have that power within, but, you know, we're just,

the higher self heals us, that we're within. And as you said, explain about how the energy comes

in to the healer, and how it can actually heal that other person. Yeah, it's pretty fascinating

stuff. Actually, if I look at some of the things that the founder said about how healing works,

he said that it is, that everyone can do it. It doesn't matter whether you're a kid, whether

you're an old person, doesn't matter any gender, doesn't matter anything. Anyone can do it.

And it is a natural thing for us, but it is a way of, we are developing, like I said,

generating more energy. So, really working with that innate skill that we already have.

So, we know that our bodies can heal themselves. Like, we know that, you know, medicine, for example,

can find out what's wrong with you, can go and, you know, have x-rays and ultrasounds and all

these things. So, we can, you know, look at the body, but something like the system of reiki

is so, it's just not a part of that world. This is very much about this natural ability.

So, for example, if you have an operation, the body still needs to heal itself.

Exactly. Yes, they can cut something out of you or they can do whatever to, which is fantastic

and amazing, right? Yes, but then the body still needs to heal itself. And this is what this is

about. It is the natural skill that we all have, all animals have. And he was really tapping into

that and really wanting us to do more with that and really go into that. And it, it doesn't mean

we're not going to die, we're all going to die, but it means that we could die whole, if you like,

right? So, we could die in a space where we feel at peace. And if we think of those reiki

precepts, you know, for this moment, not having anger or worry, being true to who we are,

being grateful, being compassionate, you know, having all of that in our lives is what he can

see there to be the most important thing as a human being. So, if we look at how

what I was going to say is that in that manual of his that he says that we heal using the hands,

the eyes and the breath. So, it's three things. Yeah. And these three things actually fit into

a very Japanese understanding of the world. And we see three things replicated again and again

many cold trees, also very special number here. So, these three things, the breath,

the hands and the eyes, yeah. So, hands is an important tool for healing, but it's not the healing

itself. And this is where, like, you're just saying, like, how does that work? Yeah, the energy

is the way it flows. Are you taking the energy from the higher source and bringing it to the

channel? No, no. It's not how I see it. I think, you know, you could describe it in a million

different ways. Yeah, let me say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll describe it in one way.

Because it's a very, it's a, it's a femoral. We cannot touch it. You know, we don't,

it's not something that we can just, it's not like a piece of paper with something written down.

It's something that you have to experience for yourself. And basically, what we're doing is when

we're practicing on our cells, though, and with our meditation practices. Oh, by the way,

there's also, we also work with symbols and mantras. And we also have a practice called

Raidu, which is like an initiation, initiation practice between the teacher and the students. So,

those made up the five elements that were just wonderful. But so, with hands on healing,

I would say what happens is that as a practitioner, I go into a healing space as a way of putting it.

So, a meditation space. So, I sit with a client with my intention, intention is so incredibly

important. Yeah. I sit with the intention of being there open with this person that I read

into my body. So, with the meditation practices to just get myself into that sense of total openness.

And to really be in that state of the Raidu preset. So, if I'm sitting in that space and then

I'm sitting with that person and I'm touching that person with my hands, it's very safe,

non-intrusive. You don't need to take your clothes off. Don't touch any private parts of the body.

We can put our hands on or off the body. So, if I'm sitting in that space and I'm using my hand,

I'm asking that person, that client, to be in that space with me and to let go of whatever is

going on in their lives and to really just share that space with me. So, it's really about me

and back into that innate healing skill that my body has. I'm sitting back into that because that

is wholeness. That is where the body is always finding its way back into balance. And when I sit

with that person who's having a treatment, I'm sitting with them in that space of wholeness.

And they feel that. Their body feels that. And the way I set up the treatment is with their

intention that they will be open to receive whatever it is that they need. And by thinking that,

they are starting to understand, it's not me doing anything to them, it's actually their bodies,

healing them to help them to heal themselves because we all, we save ourselves and we hear

ourselves. It's so true. And we sit in that space. I mean, it's like you support the client

to be in that space and you help them by telling them what their intention is to be open to that.

And for example, when I do it, I don't try to channel energy or move energy or anything like

that. I really try to actually let go. And I do think that the hardest thing for any human beings

to let go is we so much want to take on stuff, don't we? And we want to educate ourselves and we

want to do these things. But there is a point where we, with a practice like this, which is an

energetic spiritual practice, we need to let go into that and feel that and allow that to

be the actual healing. Healing, not us being the healing. No, it's like a surrendering, isn't it?

And it's a, it's a beings, it's a being in this divine moment with that. Yeah, absolutely.

You're not in the past future, you're just allowing and surrendering. Wow, it's just beautiful.

It is. And you know, we do it all the time. So I could do it in a formalized fashion like

on, you know, but I could talk to someone. But remember, we were just saying as well that, you know,

my hands, breath and eyes, like, yeah, we connect with the eyes, you know, that shapes beer, right?

Yeah, that's where we, you know, the eyes have it. And it's that, that deep connection that we

have with each other when we look into each other's eyes. I mean, you don't want to be

imposing and you don't want to be in people's faces. But, you know, with that set of coming around

to being with someone and having that opportunity for both of you to let go and to actually see each

other is incredibly beautiful. And it's very true. It's the truth of that divine soul

within, you know, the physical body that we all have that soul consciousness within, which is

the same consciousness that we all share. Yeah, that's beautiful. I mean, I think we need to be

careful with those things that we're not wishing ourselves on others. But, yeah, I just did a

treat with the other day on a lady. And then after the treatment, you know, we were just standing

talking and we went to say goodbye. And then we just looked into each other's eyes. And you know,

there was just pure connection. It didn't mean anything and it didn't mean that I would ever see

this person again. But it's just this thing of we don't need to pretend or, you know, manufacture

ourselves that we can relax and let go and just really let our true being just be there without

any shame or worried.

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Okay.

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It's almost like, yeah, it's almost like you're you are holding that space you by getting in

by being with them principles. Yeah, you're allowing that person to therefore be in their true

state of healing, their true state, their true self of healing, which is it's just so it's so

simple really, is it not? You know, that's what we do when we go into meditation, our meditations

every day, which is being in that true self state. It's beautiful. Yeah. And just working on

ourselves so that we're strong enough resilient enough to have the skill to hold that space for

someone else is to let them then discover things within themselves without us feeling the need to

be once again intrusive or, you know, really, we're just we're just this, I don't know, you know,

we are people who use the word vessel, don't they? And it's true, you know, we're like a vessel

that is just there for us to support other people, but also to support ourselves and because

it's so important. Yeah, as you said, you know, so many therapists and healers, they are

I'm going to heal you. No, you're just making the space for that person's higher self, true self

to heal themselves. That's where, you know, we could just hierarchy, you know, I'm the healer,

I'm the therapist, I'm the doctor. No, we're all that, aren't we?

Yeah, I love that. You know, we disempower people, the minute we say that we are a healer.

Yeah, just a little bit. Yeah, I do feel like we disempower people.

Yeah, if we take away from them, something which is innate, you know, I know.

And me and the other thing is, if I'm going, oh, you know, if you've got, well for one,

if they say, you know, I've got a bad knee and I spend all my time, you know, working on this knee,

I don't really know what's wrong with this person. I'm not kidding myself. I don't know.

I don't have to know. This is the thing because the knowing is the head alone. I'm more than just a head,

I am also, you know, a spiritual being and a physical being. And you know,

it's the blending of these things that come together that make me whole.

But if I'm out of balance and too much in my head, then I'm telling people the stuff and I'm

making this happen. But really, that's me. It's just, it's like, it's a very disconnected experience,

actually, but a truly whole experience is one where everything works together and blend

politically. And yeah, it does. There was something I was going to say before,

forgotten about hate. And it's the energy, isn't it? It's the energy because, you know,

we have our energy bodies, yeah, that are with the physical body. And, you know, when there's

an imbalance in the energy body, it will manifest into a problem in the physical body. So,

what we're doing is you're holding space for that energy to rebalance itself, you know,

to have that alignment of mind, body and soul, you know, mind, body and spirit, isn't it? To come

back to homeostasis, to come back to wholeness, you know, without different parts. And that's very

difficult in this world because, you know, I believe that we all come from the oneness. We're

born from that, from that source. And we come down into this duality, it, which is separation.

And we're always looking for that wholeness. We have to have that wholeness between our light

and dark, our feminine and our masculine and our energies within. It's all about that wholeness.

And that's what you've been talking about the whole time. You know, having that, it's beautiful.

If I look at the Japanese idea of how the universe began. So, if we're at one with the universe,

and we are a mirror of the universe, and how the universe began, we can see that inside of ourselves.

And it's exactly what you're talking about. So, it's believed that the universe began

with the earth and the heavens. So, they have these dual elements, which are disconnected. They're

not, they're in their own sort of space, right? But when they come together and when they blend,

then something is created. And that is earth, that is life. And so, we're this blending of these

all the opposites. And it is the sense of wholeness that comes out of that. And we see ourselves

in that as well because we, when we practice our meditation practices, for example, we use the

like the core. It's called the hara in the heart and bellybutton. We're all the energy inside

the energy that ignites, and the medidians come from, that go around the whole of the body, yeah.

Well, in Japan, they believe that you're original energy, which is what you're saying, and that it

is something that is, it's handed down to you by your parents. But when your parents come together,

once again, these two opposites coming together and creating you being the creation, right?

Then that is where we begin, if you like. So, we begin at the hara. And that is this grounded

fearful force. And then we have the heavens, which we see as the head. And it's that really

intuitive, mental aspect of ourselves, which is really so special and beautiful. And

it holds a lot of wisdom. But it's more wise when it is connected through as a whole. And

that's when we really get compassion and coming into it. So, you know, we have the head and the

hara coming together at the heart. And that is that really opening of the compassion itself,

because we're the blending of this wisdom from our parents, from their parents and their parents,

and our own natural wisdom, bringing those things together and creating this unified sense

of who we are. And when we practice, we just allow those elements to find their own balance.

And if the moment's going to be different, because I'm going through different things,

I've got different problems, I've got different great things happening, always different stuff.

So, that sense of balance is always trying to happen, but is always trying to find its way back.

And that is innate healing. That's what we do. And if I hold a baby,

you know, it's like, I can't help, but be there one with that baby. And the two of us really

finding ourselves in that really lovely, holistic space of balance between, you know,

the heavens and earth and being at one with the universe. So,

this is a natural space for us. That's so beautiful. And I think that's what this great awakening,

you know, this fastening up of this great awakening that I feel that the whole of humanity is going

through, that's the essence of it. Finding that balance within you, you know, it's like

within yourself. And then others find that within themselves. And it, you know,

earth piece through, self piece, it's all about the self and having that wholeness within,

which is where the true healing begins. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, absolutely. So, it's, in that sense,

a system of breaking, you know, people will sometimes get confused. They say, oh yeah,

I do raky. I've never learned it, but I do raky. Well, that's not really raky, but what they're

saying is that they are tapping into that innate sense of healing themselves. Yeah. But as you

were saying before, the system of raky has these five elements. And these are different practices

that you work with to really strengthen your own energy. And we strengthen ourselves from inside,

not from outside. So, it's not about putting up protective barriers against the world or anything

like that. In fact, it's the opposite. You know, we do that onion thing of, like, you know,

taking away a skin and another skin and another skin and another skin, trying to let go

to actually be true to who we are, whatever that core self, you know, whatever we experience,

that core self to be. So, we're not trying to be something, protect ourselves or anything like

that. We're really very much about letting go of that. And because if I'm protecting myself,

then I cannot be at one with the universe because I am... We can read it because I'm going to buy

I'm telling you that now. Well, I should send you a copy when I get a copy. Oh yeah, today's

just out today. It's amazing that we're having this today. I know, so lovely. And so, well,

it's available. I think it's pretty much probably available everywhere. I mean, it's available

obviously online, Amazon. But it's definitely bookstores as well. And because it has been selling

for years and years and years, you know, it does have people, you know, you will find a lot of

bookstores, but I definitely recommend finding the... I can show you the old version, but it's

a little different to the new one. This is my... This is the original. So, the rakey sauce book,

but the new one is black and gold. So, it's very different. It's sort of like a sophisticated

Japanese beautiful yummy book. It's really delicious. And I can't wait to see it. So, I hope

I hope people see it on the shelves and pick it up. Let's really see if you find things in there

that resonate for you because really, I think it's great for... I think I know I sound a bit biased,

but I think every rakey practitioner should have this because they can use it as a reference

for anything, any questions that people have or that they have themselves. They can look it up

in there and find the answers. But even people who are just interested in the system of rakey and

haven't done anything much with it, I think it's still an amazing place to be, because it goes

through all the different elements and how they work for you and that practices. There's a lot

of practices in there as well that you can actually do. They're actually all described in there.

So, yeah. Absolutely brilliant. Well, Ron, when I just want to say thank you for this really

in-depth, profound dive into rakey and how it is almost like initiates and holds space

for our own healing, which is really, really important. And thank you for your divine wisdom

and your research in writing this book and thank you for being on The Great Awakening Show.

Thank you so much for having me here. I am so honored and for the beautiful clarity that you've

brought to all those words.