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Episode 156 - Fake news
This week, Andy and Roger begin by talking about Barry Weiss and her surprise appointment as editor-in-chief at CBS News, before spiralling into a discussion about audience capture, ideological drift, and whether anyone—including themselves—can truly claim to be immune from cult-like thinking. Are we the sane ones, or just too deep to notice?
From there, it’s a sweeping conversation through the evolving role of religion in public life, and the legitimacy of different media ecosystems (hello, Sky News After Dark). Andy floats the uncomfortable idea that the “new atheists” may have been the virus that broke Western civilisation. Roger plays devil’s advocate—possibly literally.
They touch on climate, immigration, the myth of multicultural harmony, and whether Australia’s stability is luck or design. As always, it's a crossfire of hypotheticals, minor existential crises, and unexpected agreement.
Somewhere in the middle, John Howard makes a cameo.
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