
157 | The Juror Who Saved Justice in the Lindsay Clancy Case w/ Toad
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5 Til' Midnight — 157 | The Juror Who Saved Justice in the Lindsay Clancy Case w/ Toad. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
The whole point is we're back to like hot pretty blue-eye blonde haired woman Doing ads again for national organization the fruit of the loom logo. What is it? fucking corny copia Apparently no, it's not wait what I don't care what I actually don't even care what justification is just making a good one So it sticks in the media. He's already done set up right all he has three spotters It was a giant anti-war piece book like that's what it was and then he has made this like Bad at film that literally didn't go with what the book was nothing Welcome everyone welcome back to five the midnight If anyone doesn't know if you were under a rock Lindsey Clancy was her trial was a mistrial We had one stone cold killer in the jury One man one solid dude
Against nine women two simps and he held firm And now We have a mistrial king well mistrile is bad. We don't even know if they're gonna be all I mean We don't necessarily know What it's it was better it was a better thing that happened actually at first Everyone should know we have toad here towed the great toad is back on the podcast. What's up? And He's he's got a special hat for us today. Yeah, we're all the There's audio listeners Go to the YouTube Something fucked up with my computer. It's all the porn that I have playing. I think it's it's hogging my CPU Hold on Don't turn your head too much dude. It covers up the K Yeah The screen grab there you go. Yeah, why do I keep saying hang on I might have to come back. I don't know what's going on
That's okay. That's all right. You figure it out. We'll keep going But anyways, we had you know when it first started coming out It was like we thought there was two jurors that were holding out But everyone online was saying at least in our circles were saying It was the two women wearing pink that they were they were old now for not guilty Somebody did they had up based on all those I know that's And then as it kept going then it so it was one juror and then it we've turned it we find out that it was actually 11 jurors saying not guilty one juror was holding on for guilty plea and Yeah, and then he held out for like a few days and You know that lawyer I forgot his name, but the defense lawyer for Lindsey Clancy. I thought reading Yes Yeah, like Raymond redding yeah, I mean, oh god, that I'm tired. I got that no wonder she got what got all
Super genius. Well, yeah, he has smoke political connections everywhere. So Well, this guy was it was pretty aggressive I mean he was like calling out this juror that he wasn't falling the wall and the judge should change him out for an alternate and Yeah, and then he was slamming him in the media when I was like I mean, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know this stuff I'm just like that seems a little aggressive. I don't think I've never seen that as a lawyer I've never in my life seen that yeah, I understand how they could be like you're breaking the law by believing she's guilty Well, the thing is okay. Here's the thing though in like these court cases when the jury Like the jury is not deciding whether she's guilty of murdering Yeah, the the children the jury is deciding on very one or more very very specific criteria that the judges set And we don't know what those criteria are, but it's very like legal ease So it's it's very possible that based on the way that the judge based on that judge is understanding of the law phrased it to the jury
That it does make sense for them to say not guilty I I don't I don't and I'm not saying that's right And I think the guy who's the holdout is right anyway because if that's what happened then the judge framing it in our law system Is what screwed up and we should like have the witch trials again or something, but like right? Well that is the situation Well, Massachusetts has a loophole where you can go with an insanity defense And it's the only state in the United States I believe that reverses the burden of proof when you do an insanity defense and the defense does not have to prove in sanity That's insane. What prosecution the prosecution has to prove Sanity in Massachusetts What that yeah, saying Right Yeah, so you can just use that as a loophole and then the whole trial was focused on is she insane or not rather than hello She fucking murdered her kids, so that's not even being discussed anymore. Then like you said the Defense attorney was basically trying to get that last holdout thrown off just because he wasn't gonna vote that way
And I'm almost positive that like three jurors were initially guilty and like They all got pressured into changing their votes. I'm almost positive because this thing went on for like six days and yeah, yeah, and seven days Well, the judge kept telling them you guys have to come to you Nana's unanimous verdict usually the judge will say that like twice, but this was like five six times Totally ridiculous and for some reason the jury was not sequestered in this high profile of a case which makes absolutely no sense That's ridiculous. Yeah, and that's one other problem by the way It's very weird that they weren't sequestered which by the way if you don't know what that means it means like like Cut off from the rest of the Of the world like not being able to look at the news the internet contact people so that they don't get outside information Which seems like it it it happens for high profile cases and this seems like In obvious one to do that But now one of the issues is for retrial is that how are they gonna find jurors especially locally
Who are not already like affected by the case? Can you imagine how stupid and un like uninvolved the people that were beyond the jury would be? Yeah, you'd have to find like old people like with no TV like I'd say you'd have to find just fucking 80 year olds Yeah, that's what it is It is it is crazy with the the no sequester. I don't think the defense lawyers Jewish There was a lot you know I was actually shocked because I really wasn't paying attention to this when this was popping up on like I first started seeing it I really wasn't paying that much attention to it until it was like this like there was like a significant amount of women that were like basically accusing the husband and And so I was like oh shit that's when I got interested and then you know you go into it You learn like it doesn't take much to learn you learn just a little bit and you're like oh she's admitted to killing her kids like it's not that Not that there's like a possibility she didn't know she admitted to it
No, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, like a bunch of these women yeah like psychotic women are coming up with all these theorists like all the husband Had to have done it like oh he had time to do it while he was still home and did it and then left to a go create his Alibi at the pharmacy and at the restaurant or whatever came back But it like doesn't work like if you try to fit it in the timeline because to strangle three kids like that You need like a half hour to do it basically, dude the sheer force of guerrilla will to strangle three of your own children I mean she's obviously insane so like What are we supposed to do? Well, you know people It's now what we're doing today. It's like people watch too many movies and they'll like oh you could choke someone to death in like a second I'm like that shit takes like minutes dude you got a whole that you got to like Sure, they're making like that's not a whole Minutes but then they also said that he had to have then slash her wrist because if you don't know after she committed the murder She tried to kill herself. She cut her own wrist. I think she stabbed herself in the neck as well
And then when that all didn't work she jumped out a window and paralyzed herself and people were saying well He must like the women are saying he did it and he must have like slash a wrist first But I'm like no because obviously it was like a failed suicide attempt Like but they're like he doesn't make sense if he was gonna kill her. Why would he do that? What makes absolutely no sense they can't even fucking kill themselves right crazy? That's actually why the suicide rate for women so low they I think they have higher attempts They just don't succeed The thing though. Yeah, how to receive three times at ending children's lives and then you can't do it to yourself Right what I don't believe you She's a hot cell with an exercise band Yeah, and Upspeech by a good college coach Well like she also said that she heard voices, but the only time that she heard voices was the one time Yeah, when her husband was gone and it was that time to like yeah, and that's not how you want to kill her kids
Right, that's not how works and the prosecution had He also like did skits afraid. Yeah, yeah, the prosecution had multiple like doctors the psychologists come out and like as experts And say yeah, like this doesn't happen like if you have voices you're hearing them Repeatedly like like son of Sam Berkowitz like he was hearing voices over and over again And the killings were not planned out in his case like this. It was like okay the voices telling me to kill somebody I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna shoot some random person like that's how those usually manifest I Love the like examination from the defense lawyer to like the like psychiatrists and stuff And it just kept trying to make it be like no, it's as possible You know, this would be like so like This could be a thing though, right? They're like no, and they're like yeah, but like maybe she just heard this one time Like no Berkowitz by the way is a fat tiny old Jew and he's he's still in prison like somewhere in upstate New York and He's like a cult leader now. He has a bunch of followers and you can go visit him and like take pictures with him and stuff
Yeah, I didn't know he was still alive. Yeah, I went to this thing where this serial killer expert was like giving a talk I went to that and he had met with Berkowitz and he talked about that experience I was like this is wild shit man Yeah, yeah, his dog spoke to him Is dope, yeah, that's right. Yeah, and they got caught with the parking ticket So And he was clearly insane. So like what is the what is this right? He's in prison, but Lindsey Clancy. No, not her Yeah, is it Sorry, type of maybe you maybe you know more about this toad, but if she was like found insane or whatever Would she even have to like serve time in prison or was she just being like an institution for a while like In this trial if she was found guilty Not guilty Oh, well, yeah, if she was found not guilty right by way of insanity in this trial Right that right so if she was not guilty she would have had to go to prison, but yeah if she was found not guilty
Right then she would have had to go to some sort of mental Institution or some kind just like not better, but but that's not probably could have gotten out pretty quickly though Yeah, yeah, that's what because there's a case Yeah, there's a case where it was this Black guy he broken to someone's home and he killed their four-year-old son He stabbed their son multiple times in the face and that doesn't now by the way The reason it was in the news I just heard about it recently because he was just released He was only in seven years in some mental institution because he fled insanity So they healed him or whatever so they had to release him because you don't heal that You healed that with a world the father of The victim there should just like should hunt him down Like oh yeah, I think the father was saying stuff like that on the news and then we pulled that oh
Yes, I think I mean let me I'll find it. Oh, so in under the serrat Lizzy clansy's black hole eyes Anyone can we like please talk about the sheer physiognomy of this woman like she looks like a lizard witch It's insane. I've never seen more terrible physiognomy on a person ever Yeah, and that was one of my huge tweets One of my biggest ever that blew up the other day was me talking about how women would yeah More like a post-server she was actually hot because they'd be jealous ever so I said the men in the jury should Just like talk about how they think she's really hot and try to try to like reverse psychology the the women on the jury Yeah, that's a good one She's not even like crazy hot to be this crazy. You know what I'm saying? Dude, I mean I have the most confused direction right now No, she's way on the crazy end of the hot crazy matrix. So she's like Like maybe in the middle of the the hot she just made the top 25 She's Washington right now. She's just there
Yeah, and then some of the other things that the women were saying were like they were mad because Patrick Clancy the father of the kids and her ex-husband here was like Oh, Galavanting around New York with his new wife while the trial was gone on him like well The murders happened three years ago. What do you like? What do you think he should do stay in the courthouse for six seven days, you know during all this bullshit and relive this over and over again like what the fuck? Galavant around New York. You mean living his life. Yeah, exactly trying to move on from his horrible ex-wife who are things that ever happened to him ever Yeah, yeah, what the hell Yeah, the just The women justification for this is it's pretty insane and we already you already saw like a few copycats of this too that one chick I think it was like Illinois or I or it was an ice state I think in Illinois I think yeah type of Yeah Avid Clancy supporter and yes, she like copycat it and strangled her son. Yeah
Yeah, that's up north And of being pro abortion Is that mothers Should be allowed to end the lives of their children when they're alive and that's that's what we're seeing right? Yeah It was saying all these jurors wearing pussy hats Yeah, and all the people outside protesting in pink. Yeah, they were setting up rallies She got a million dollars and go fund me. It's good. I was gonna I was gonna go over there because I'm really close to where this is. I was like thinking about going over there And like For some major sympathy pussy. I don't know what I don't know what I was gonna do But not you think I want to bang any of those insane women. Well, maybe yes. I don't know. Oh, okay Well, yeah, I was gonna wear a pussy hat myself. Yeah, just blend it to the crowd. Yeah, some of Lizzy Clancy You should have like you should have one in like interviewed them or something. I don't know either be kind of I should have yeah, I need to do the man on the street content. Yeah, that would have been good content
Because if you would at least if you're dressed up like them, they just assume you're one of them and You can go talk to them. They probably most of them probably would have said the husband did like I I don't doubt if you're crazy enough to go protest for her You've got to be down the rabbit holes in the conspiracies of all that where those women's husbands by the way I know they are they have writing and shame Like if I'm at work and I see my wife like on On the news like in the Lizzy Clancy, uh, yeah shit whatever. Yeah, I come home. You know what's happened in that wife Yeah, oh, yeah Well also this is just kind of like uh It's just crazy how many people can try to get out of legitimately horrible crimes by just trying to plead and stand Like uh, there needs to be Like I just don't understand Like why would you like yeah, sure they can they can you can go help them or whatever, but they still should like go to prison
Uh, well, they often do it especially sometimes they would They will go to a mental institution and then once they're free or once they're sure go to prison I don't think it's Common for people to actually get out To get off on crimes easily. I It's kind of a misnomer I well it just happened that that one I found the one j-portade But it was they had to change the law in Kentucky. It's called to Logan law because Logan tipped in that was the six-year-old I was talking about was killed by Ronald Exxonthus and he it was six years old and he got killed by this black dude and the guy just got released like two like two months ago And he's back on the street and he said little boy the dude who killed Irina's roots guy or whatever on the bus in Charlotte. Oh, yeah, that guy didn't go to prison either. He's he got like mental Some sort of yeah, yeah, yeah, he went to some mental institution pretty much. He I don't even know if he's there if he's out again
I don't like everybody who gets The like rewards of this is just anyone who's not like a white guy Everybody else did just yeah, it claimed insanity. Yeah But if anybody said that we're in jail tomorrow Right only white men cannot do that. Yeah, I think do I think we're gonna get capital punishment back in some places in this in this country Really? I don't know about liberal places, but Well, I love it Like there's a lot of states that have capital punishment But they just don't even go for it anymore because it's so controversial Like there's up to you states that just like I think Louisiana just executed someone not too long ago But it's like very uncommon nowadays and Like for horrific crimes But they just go to this throw them in a cage for years and you know, I still understand why Why you do that like if I did something horrible just kill me
I don't want to be in prison for decades dude Yeah, I guess that's the argument too. It's like what's worse? Never seen lie today again or or get put down after a time Actually think being in prison is worse. Yes, but that's also kind of why I think we that should be the punishment Like mental torture on top of like You know But I don't know dude because things are getting crazy dude here in Illinois You can just say you're transitioning and they'll take your ass to the woman's prison Really oh yet dude there's fucking pregnant female prisoners now because they're putting male prisoners in there with them who are Going to transition My uncle I'm in a fucking liberal city of state See if you're gonna do it you better do it in like California, Illinois, maybe New York. I don't fucking know, but Yeah, yeah, you know, that's a good question about me because like when I was a cop like this wasn't a thing like the whole Trans thing like it is now right like I never ever encountered that I wouldn't even know
I don't even know what their like protocol is I bet you it's whatever it says in your fucking Birth certificate You probably got to go there. I don't know though. I'm just speculating. I generally do not know I know that for I know for some places here in Illinois. I don't know me I don't know but I think if you just say You're a woman they will transfer you to the female prison and then but they have like we pay for their gender assignments Churchry so the state will transition them but what typically happens is they get hurt somehow Before the surgery time so then it it they have to reschedule and extend the period so there's still in the woman's prison And it's not a joke. There's like pregnant female prisoners because of this like it's oh yeah The prison rape the results in some of them non-consensual That's wild some some of them consensual
But not all you know there was there was a case where a dude in a men's prison and a woman in a women's prison were dating somehow and they were like the prison the prison was like two prisons were nearby or something or maybe even in the same facility and He he passed his seam and through like a vent Oh my god and she had pregnant herself with like a fucking like turkey basers of shit. Yeah It's crazy. Imagine that prison doctor being like this is a macular conception. How the fuck Yeah That is wild dude Why would you just want to get pregnant in prison though like why I don't There were love she wanted to have a state the The state is gonna take your kid he becomes a warrant of the state after that like you'll never see him Maybe she thought she'd get off If if she was pregnant like they'd let her out that I think they they do that sometimes if you're close to getting out
Which makes me that makes sense. Oh, so you can get out and then you have and then you just get an abortion or something Or have the bait or have the bait or just have postpartum depression Yeah Just commit the crime of Massachusetts you're fine postpartum depression is just a late term abortion now Real really like eight years late Well, that was the other thing uh the youngest of of clansys kids was eight months like usually you do not have postpartum depression That late after a pregnancy. So that was another knock like against or there was another thing that indicated that she was lying about that The fact of the jury deliberation wasn't like so guilty right and like two seconds is a real or like you know she murdered her kids so fuck this insanity defense. Yeah guilty Yeah, I tend to believe when everyone was saying like oh, it's 10 guilty to not guilty I was like okay that makes sense because in my head there's more rational mother fuckers out there than there is not
So when I heard it was the other way around I'm like dude what country do we even live in anymore this is I Like 10 minutes trying to find out what the judge told the jury to decide on and I could not find it No, he was demanding a unanimous decision. So he was a unanimous decision on what specific question is what I'm asking And a unanimous decision is just required for a jury trial. That's just what it is right Well, yeah, I think that's what it was and obviously Like what were they deciding on? I guess she was insane or not Yeah, but what are the what's the criteria for that and also it's very it's very subjective No, but But he has to he establishes the judge establishes that criteria That's yeah, I don't know I mean it would be very specific to me It seemed like he was just trying to force a unanimous not guilty verdict. That's basically what's going on But that doesn't it's like not guilty of what based on what criteria like you don't take random jurors who aren't lawyers
There's just normal oh based on that the prosecution did not prove their case that she was actually sane But okay, but we're not sure about whatever. I'm gonna ask Claude I think I think that's what it was but also the the people that were like oh because we knew that it was a let an 11 to 1 Vote at that time the people that thought that it was 11 to 1 guilty like those people have no idea what's going on They're like completely fucking retarded. I'm like you should not even You should not even be around like let it let it won't be able to vote I just you should not be on the planet. Yeah, I just don't understand why why you would have to prove someone was sane That's massive. It's a Massachusetts law specifically no other state has it set up that way I'm pretty sure I know it feels like you know jace inches and all over again in a way worth like a prosecution Just not doing good Yeah, it's oj Simpson, but for When they'd be set of black people hold them. Yeah, I mean the notoriously the oj Simpson the prosecution did a terrible job
So like the right oh, yeah, they made him try on the cloth Yeah, I mean that's what did it Like why the fuck would you do that? Do you ever hear the theory that his son is the one who did it? No, oh for why? Apparently he hated Nicole how old was his son at the time Like an adult is that his mom? No, that wasn't a no no, I don't think so No, no, but like the theory goes like his son did it and oj just like took the fall Knowing that he can't really be pinned for it But but they had oj cna Yeah, I'm just telling you to I'm not like a oj truth or I'm just saying there's conspiracy out there where I don't I don't know too much about it, but I know that's like the basis of it Where he wrote a book about it called if I did it yeah He's got Well, I think that is why he lost in civil court and he lost like a lot of his fortune because of that every
Profit from that book went to a family This the civil court case the civil court case was because he Broken to like the Goldman family's Property or something to try to get some of his stuff back No, that's He that was in Las Vegas and so because he lost the civil suit he had auction off a bunch of his shit So like something the Buffalo bills So that he had from and then after that then he broke he broke into trying to steal it There was a hotel where a guy found oj and he's like hey man, I have your stuff Do you want to buy it back and oj showed up with thugs and was like I'm robbing this mother Bro that he wanted he he wants a jail for that Wow people said that he was a white dude, but he was definitely he has the black cred man oj Well, he had well the thing was that jugs that prosecuted that armed robbery case She gave him the maximum sentence possible and the trial was on the The date of the same of his murder trials acquittal
So he she scheduled it on the same day and like threw the entire book at him and he went away for 20 a while It was almost 20 years, but then I think it got knocked down to like 15 or something like that So he was away for a while for that Yeah, but he did rush from a 2000 yards in 12 game season, which is very impressive That is in that is amazing Yeah, man, you separate the art from the person Yeah, that's why I love Hitler even those arts sucked That's a good one dude. She the artist great politician Uh, fuck That is something that he he has oj Simpson has like a crazy life dude Imagine being like a superstar running back Being a big time on movies and TVs
murdering a Jewish woman and her boyfriend Like that's I can never imagine doing that what Yeah, I can't rush 2000 yards in full game seasons. Hi, but that's crazy I could never be on TV guys Yeah Yeah, it is crazy. Did his kids ever do anything? Were they ever important? No, it's like Jordan's son Yes, just he made the NBA didn't he but he'd not very long right yeah, it was like you know I was like your Jordan's kid Yeah, he's on the brownie situation Yeah, yeah, you'll be on the team because of your dad, but you know you should be in G le right now Do you think they're gonna cut him now that LeBron gone they paid him like two million dollars Which I know to them is nothing but like that's still not nothing Yeah, I think they just wanted the historic
Like thing to be like a father's son on the same team like The the marketing they got to having the bronze James and his son on one team is worth way more than two million dollars Correct. Yeah, you're probably right. It's like when King Griffey and his dad play together What amazette in late 80s? Oh early 90s maybe On Seattle. Yeah, back when you were middle age When you're still suffering from PTSD from the Vietnam War I think 240 in November and it's a bummer and it's upsetting me. So thank you pretty much that 35 or so. I don't know why but 35 was worse for me I think if 40 I was just like yeah, whatever I just don't even give a shit anymore No, I'm dread I am dreading it also my body is failing me like wait toad how old are you 72
How old do you think is dude? I thought toad was in his mid 30s No, I look I look like shit then But no, I appreciate that I guess what the fuck I do what the hell just happened while I look black now that's toad's 42. Yeah, you 40. No, no, not 40. You know we touch 41 No, you're not are you serious How do you simultaneously look like garbage, but look good for your aid? It's the fuck man Maybe watching Kobe's massive porn and eating goislapp all day doesn't for your body Yeah, it's all the baconators that I do It's made me immune to like all the shit that people eat like my body's just so used to it that it just wards it off basically, you know what I mean I'm not here. Are you the guy I'm working out? I got a guy do what he does Yeah, you the guy ordering fucking door dash when it's storming outside because you want to make a minority go out in the rain
Oh, yeah But the problem is you know like you're risking them like stealing it or Spitting in it stealing at least some of the food whatever you know what I mean or you'll get like, you know The Indian doodle drop it off to you and you're like fuck. I just ordered like McDonald's and I was smells like curry and diarrhea and cigarettes all at the same time Isn't always a minority that drops at all Usually it is in my area. Yeah Sometimes I get a white guy and I'm like hell yeah, man I don't do it. I say anything if I have a white guy show up It's like what happened in your life that you're doing this right now. It's rare. It's rare They're usually black Indian Asian or Hispanic Yeah, all the non's Yep, all the non's yeah, and then I feel like you know like a plantation owner or something I mean like like I don't know or if I just feel like one of those like white dudes in the early 1900s like getting my shoes shy
And I said no, I mean, yes, thank you for delivering me my my my white boy meal Toad makes toad makes them deliver it like a rich y'all No, that would take too long run here in your bare feet boy I want to see those souls bleed I Am gonna have to get by sub surgery. It's pretty much determined. I'm gonna have to do that now Wait, we're gonna try to hold off and I just can't it's not gonna heal My fibers aren't gonna automatically reattach themselves to my fucking arm Shit, man. It's fucking so easy the doc was all right, dude. Yeah, I don't want to admit that though Yeah, you you get a completely new doctor and just Yeah, I'll have a white doctor telling me this I'm like I have some Indian doctors Oh Dude we got a lot of Indian doctors around here and they run the fucking gas stations dude and small town Illinois
It's my buddies They're everywhere dude fucking everywhere Yeah, I haven't a little lift anything with weight in my right arm for like over two months now So I think I'm going to doctor next week honestly be like It's fucking do it man Like it sucks. I haven't worked out outside of abs in over two months That doesn't even know what doesn't count abs. How does that account? I don't know so I'm just saying stuff No, it's fair. You are you are skinny fat. I forget that a lot You and I are knees now You your body fat has to be at like 30 easily dude. No, yes I will guarantee it is 30 yeah Yeah, you eat like shit you don't work out You're somehow stupid fucking iris jeans make you not fucking fat. I work out. I don't know you don't what do you do? I snort method run up and down the stairs. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm wrong. That's fucking cardio. What are we talking about that?
You pipe lose track of time doing that too You Erase my cat. I would I would love to measure your body weight I think my body weight you're a fat percentage what okay you walk the way I have to be 30 percent You see what he eats in this fuck show. I know I see what he eats but as somebody who does this a lot People don't always like you'll see some jack eyes in their body fat like fucking high Yeah, I bet you his body fat and toes body fat almost same What minds like 90% no, it's not you'd be a little bowling ball I have like no muscles. I don't know very high fat. Two different things. So skeletal muscle mass is different than body fat percentage Oh your body fat is probably like 35 to 40. I would assume Sounds about right But this motherfucker is probably like 30 he just hides it well Really is all for sure
He eats ice cream pizza. I know there's no yeah, I eat pizza on Monday nights. It's the only time I get it at the Monday nights I got apples and peanut butter here. No, it's not bullshit seriously. Okay. All right. All right calm down I by the way peanut butter is not good for you, but unless you're working out. Yeah, it's not that's a myth Peanut butter is not healthy with apples since. Okay, since always No, it is just seriously sugar, but it's got No, what about all natural no added sugar bullshipping what I'm not scared fat and if you're not burning it off, it's just it just goes to fat So like peanut butter if you're good snack if you're gonna like pre-work out Or post workout, but like if you're not doing anything you shouldn't be peanut butter. Oh Oh, that's my mistake then It's not it's not everything else is just a peanut butter Yeah, just gotta cut out the peanut butter and then I can just not work out
Damn Literally has a way to set behind I use it sometimes There you go Like when I'm making a video for Legion of Skanks biggest loser and having to show them how fat I am and how unethylic I am Do you get picked on there a lot? Um, not usually, but I was part of the biggest loser competition Late in one year. Yeah, late in one. Yeah, I was in the final three for that Which is very funny. Oh my god There's a lot of foods that people think are good for you that they're just not and Like people think protein pasta is good for you and I'm like no Still pasta with a little bit extra protein and none of it adds out if you're trying to like what like You have to have to weigh it to like the gram for it to be like beneficial to you And it's only if you get if you're working out like It's pasta that's like made out of a protein. It's pasta that's like made out of chicken. Is that even possible We all ask no relatives and we'll see if you get that. I mean, I'm Italian and I don't know the answer to that
I think it would be blasphemy probably but Sounds good Yeah, no, I don't Yeah, cuz they make like chicken like chips out of like chicken, right? Oh, yeah, I've had some of those yeah, like meat chips. Yeah, you probably do it. Yeah, we're like on million dollar idea Let's do it meat pasta Meat pasta the whole thing is just meat Just through like a grinder So it but it looks like masters of black people hate us Yeah, don't want to buy my products Yeah, there's like a laundry list of foods that people just eat and they're like good for me. I'm like yeah No Especially people coming here all the time they're like, well, I eat this I First of all BMI is also fake by the way. Oh, that's another thing. That's not I'm sure it's companies doesn't measure hell. Yes, that's what I mean. Wait versus height like who gets a fuck
Yeah, it's irrelevant. That's why you have to tell them Marine Corbin do it dude like yeah, they're yeah, but you can tape out Yeah, according to BMI like Jose is like morbidly obese right. Yeah That's why you have to go off of skeletal muscle mass and body fat percentage those those two things are really like the number on the scale Doesn't matter. It's those other two later BMI correlates to health for 90% plus of people though Hmm, I don't think it does maybe 85. I don't think it's that high I don't really relevant to your health Well, no for most no, it's not it's not necessarily relevant to your health But most of the time it's heavily correlated with your health like obviously if you're super jacked Then you can be healthy. I mean if you're jacked off of like trend then you're probably still not healthy, but regardless like If you're like It's a good indicator and it's correlated with you being healthy mo for most people, but it doesn't work at the extremes of somebody who's like
The amount of the average American and BMI would help them if they knew their BMI and they'd see it They would be like wow, I'm unhealthy piece. The reason I'm saying this is because I Most of the time I see fat people making the excuse that like BMI isn't a good indicator of health But they don't use any other indicator of health and they're just like oh BMI doesn't matter so I'm healthy But no, you're you're fat and the BMI is a good indicator for you because of all the other indicators That you're not checking you're just dismissing BMI and you're not picking a better metric My indicator is the mirror and I'm just like yeah, I'm definitely My indicator of my senses My indicator is I had a stroke and I'm like yeah, there's probably something wrong here Yeah, that's a good way to start maybe thinking about some stuff Being Bell Paulty at fucking 41. You should be like hey Dude that was 15 years ago's when I had a stroke man What yeah That's terrible okay, they've won years ago. They tell you it was from your lifestyle
Is that what they said or they did not come up with a cause of it? I was like you're fucking look no like we had like the best like stroke Specialists like in the New England area here and he like he was It was that lay he clinic as well. I think he might have been he might have been from Harvard they brought him in Like because I was such a weird case they they brought this guy in and he couldn't Figure it out either and the doctors there like didn't either but no that clinic is actually good, but Yeah, and I was like dude like are you serious like I'm back then I was like 200 pounds 5 6 I was sedentary I ate like shit I'm like obvious. Yeah, I'm like this is fucking obvious what happened here Yeah, like I like just hire me. I'll do your job, but I don't know you know better than you right like all the Struct specialist now. What's your body weight at now? How much do I weigh yeah 165. Oh, that's a major
You wait. Let's do I do I'm sure what's your BMI I'm 5 8 and it's all fat for me I don't know what's my 180. I think the three of us have like the same BMI I'm 5 6 I don't know I'm not gonna be a man. That's why I go up the way of that. I know you can't do math You couldn't figure out the Dips shit, huh? Any three of us I can tell you what mine is really could it because Toad said how tall he was and how much he weighed typo said similar and then I said oh well the three of us have similar You're the only one right I don't want to admit that you are right Yeah, I'm gonna take all you Let's calculate everyone's BMI everyone named their height and weights comments too Okay No, I'm serious you go first Time six foot one eighty five first
Clockwise toad your height is five six and you're 160 pounds 165 Type-oh five eight 175 Me how much do you weigh Sam 180? Twink bitch Are you the same to be fair? I was heavier when I was working out before I turned my bicep I'm six foot one eighty five. Okay, five eleven one ninety five not five eleven Six foot one eighty five Why are we way the same Yeah, because I fucking lost a lot of my muscle mass Mm-hmm my skeletal muscle mass three months ago is 104 now it's probably 92
Do the math now so didn't type out where overweight Yeah, no shit. I've been told I've been told that my whole life in the Marine Corps But my body fat to 10 10 percent bitch Yeah, whatever I'll measure it right now. I'll grab the fucking scale in this room. I'll fucking measure mine too as soon as I figure out how I think I'm supposed to weigh like 160 according to BMI or 165 Yeah, I should definitely weigh less than I do probably by quite a well. I don't know how much should I weigh like one four? I think it's only supposed to be like 10 or maybe 20 pounds lighter than you are now All right, what is a name I can call a guy named typo or Tyler who is fat Wait, what I'm sorry, it's okay. I've done it before My bad Luke says he's 19.8. See, I'm 29. I'm swearing at Claude
I said My mind's probably in the high 20s or something. I don't know I forget how works Yeah, what is mine Damn, take your shirt off. Let me see your body I'm not doing the trouble shuffle for you gay boy. Let me see your fucking naked body. No All right, fine Be that way. I mean, I'm telling Claude that I need fat jokes about typo for a roast weighty he did actually worked Well, it gave me fat jokes about typo What is it what did it say? Well, you a fat guy You're not typo typo bold What's on Oh, that's gay dude. That's awful wait all these are based on typo Is it lines?
Winged ink that's not even good Yeah, Eddie, thank you Tyler the caterer That's actually that bad No, they don't eat it Well, they're getting a wide receiver Why Well, that Wide gay and wide wide receiver Did they misspelled? I know they misspelled wide receiver. Yo, okay Typo's new name is the heavyweight champion of the group chat Okay, what's your BMI Um 23.7 years is 24.4 we're actually all on the edge of overweight. We're all pretty close. This is why it's bullshit. Yeah, well, yeah I mean, I am fat though. No, you are. I know Yeah, you are a fat discussing slow
With brains you proud of that Sam. No You're gonna fuck fuck the Marines I'm your fan out by shit What was your body weight when you were in the Marines both of you This 175 It would this was this is my this is my weight besides when I lost weight like on deployment I might have lost weight in boot camp. I think I was at one No, actually game weight I game weight in boot camp. I was also waiting boot camp Was it the packer shaker or also weighed you Later in there. No, but the packer shaker was my friend Is that more gay? No, what sometimes I had to be the packer shaker I promoted a corporal in that day. I had to be a packer shaker Yep, it's just a guy who checks your dick. Yeah, but it's like yeah, it's not like a job It's just like a thing. That's like it is
I got paid for this I had a lot well. Yeah, no, it's it's not like your daily job They need a few packer checkers and it's corporal so your corporal basically Everybody getting their packer checked is ranked private. We're measuring science length and girth and No, just getting when Biz test because they might be on drugs You watch them and make sure the urine is exiting their penis because to make sure it's not fake penis Right But no one was shy bladder Your god, it was very hard for me Yeah, yeah, most of the time what would happen is they would just like you're at the urinal and they just kind of stand Back behind you against the wall You know making sure you're not like pulling some weird sheet out or something like that now what they were supposed to do Is stand there and that they actually are supposed to like watch your yeah, that's what happened to me penis I need to see Yeah, yeah, there were weird guys
That would do that and you're like it's gonna it's gonna be a minute brother like air were weird guys Who while they're getting packer checked Would go into the stall and take a shit In piss into the cup While looking the packer chequer in the eyes to assert dominance like Linda B. John That's the idea wants to try to make the becker checker more uncomfortable And it's like it's like gay chicken It's like yes, yeah, I think gay chicken cuz like um, it's their job to watch and like that Insexual harassment, but you can't get somebody on that because they just be like what I just think shit And I go to like I can't take a shit without peeing so like what if what if you like piss you know at the urinal or whatever We just pull your pants completely down That's a power move like on there's you I've seen that I've seen that what This is how it piss dude. I knew a guy in the NYPD who was a hundred percent on steroids and He got some rather amount. So he's like dude. I'm gonna shave my whole body. He shaved his whole body his head aren't ever it took us eyebrows
What are you now? I know oh my god Yeah, yeah, you got alopecia and he stole pop Yeah Pissed him really took us to the took both. So I guess something wasn't enough to get him fired Yeah For sure, but I had a I also got like randomly drug tested one day. It was for weed And yeah, the guy was like staring at my dick on my dude. I can't I can't go This is weird. He's like I gotta see you come out. I went no, I get it But I can't go Dude, we're being here. I Don't know was it pretty common for someone to get busted for drugs as a cop and in my PD Okay, well it was common in the Marine Corps like There's probably like one some month someone shift in your in your unit of like 800 to a thousand or being busted For something there was an entire like there was like a tire platoon
That this these people were psychopaths though, but so they thought we they were about we're about to go to the field And that's about a two to three-week training you're out in the field, you know playing pretend shooting pretend bad guys But uh right before we they went to the field they decided it was a good idea to do heroin So they did about the heroin that's a wild move and and then somebody ratted on them So while they're out in the field the Sacco came and pissed tested all of them what happened the platoon commander That well it wasn't he wasn't involved Well, yeah, but that still is the responsibility in the Marine Corps. Oh, I don't know what happened to him But I'm sure you got it all platoon. I feel like that lieutenant lost his job even though it wasn't his fault Yeah, oh whole platoon might be an exaggeration, but it was like eight guys at least that feels like enough to fire a loop tenon like that might be enough to fire battalion commander that's how many guys are in platoon Like it can eight at 50s a pretty large number
It's that's like 20% of the platoon. That's that's huge Yeah, yeah, it depends on the type of crazy Like you know some people is what 40 Eight 49 it's like it's like around there you ever take five like basically like half a squad just got busted for For They drug test for everything dude. Everything will think you can think of Yeah, steroids usually the only thing people pop on because it last way longer than everything. It's yeah They test you for eight dude randomly Randomly though in mushrooms mushrooms The only thing you can get away a lot of people do cocaine to because it only stays in your system for 72 hours I've seen people lost it for cocaine, which is crazy so did I But they would randomly test you for STDs too like that you just be like Get told randomly and hey you go get an AIDS test. You're like oh my god When I had the stroke I don't really know
Just gain us cuz strokes I'm pretty gay view so we're gonna There we go an STD test Yeah, yeah, no What what do they do for your STD test? I just had to do with your analysis for it your analysis and they drew blood Okay, so when I was 20 maybe I have and I just don't know because I've had like blood tests and urine tests on them Maybe they just do it. They don't even tell me like we're testing some shit This guy got some fucked up shit going on me know it With everything when I was 22 I for short thought an STD because my eyes only night. There's no play way to say this My cum was a weird color It was It was white but it had like a honey you to it What do you see? See went to your doctor because when I shot on some girl's face I could tell the difference That's why and I was like I Ask What's wrong with you so I went to the doctor and I was like I think I'm an STD
He's like you don't and I was like no I do he's like you don't he's like that's not like indicative of an STD But I was like so panicky as like I want the test and he's like you don't want the test I don't like no give it to me. He's like all right, and then he took a q-tip and shoved it in my p hole Turns out I tell you an iron deficiency or something like that. It was like something very easily fixable That shit hurt never get that well now I don't have to worry about that book. Yeah, this Adam's sick fuck He just likes to get sounded you don't get sounded Oh Anyway, don't do that that shit's off drew our blood Yeah, I feel like he could done that and he's like I'm gonna make an example out of this Yeah, what's the test? I got a pee in a cup or you take my blood. No, we're gonna shove the skin this instrument in your I'm gonna show a needle in your peel. Oh, I'll just live with the STD Yeah, it'll probably go away
That shit sucks so don't do that um I guess you're wrapping up Uh toad work hurry find you Learn to tell it on twitter learn to tell it on instagram Toadstool sports on youtube and the audio platforms if you want to lose every bet with me right now Uh Covered in you cuz my ukulele channel on youtube patreon.com slash learn to toad and The loser cast every Tuesday night and I don't know what's going on with the the g spot Ad on that part of that show are we doing yeah? Jai And then be like what's up with that because football is back baby Oregon want to know Giants will be one of those weekend fuck the Eagles Uh type of good look at your bears. They're playing the cowboys No, I know but fuck the Eagles, you know, oh, I got you. Oh, I got you. Oh, I got you Yeah, so far wait toad are you a patriot fan? Colts
Colts, oh, okay That's weird. Yeah, I used to be a patriot span and then I mean it's a long no, maybe it's not long. What sick of winning I hate no as soon as they got bellicic. I was like I'm done like fuck this guy I knew I knew that I hated that fucker and I'm like I'm not run into this fucking team I mean essentially should be the most winning scotch of all time. I didn't like Brady either But yes, I hated them. I started rooting for Peyton Manning Now that we're post-bellicic, I'm kind of just like neutral on the patriots Although they still have Josh McDaniel's there and fuck that guy. He does talk Yeah, for sure Electric may though It's all about Jackson Dart Do I love Dart obviously love dart because I want to be right what I said that you said the best QB in this He was the best QB in that draft. It's not even me being biased. This is the fucking truth All right, fuck cam ward sucks. Yeah anyway, it's go dart Check out Our patreon patreon.com slash five some in night the doomsdayers you guys are the fucking best Please subscribe to our patreon. We're doing it tomorrow night instead of Wednesday night because football's on Wednesday
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Yeah, yeah, I was on what show where you were mowing your lawn while you were on the show. Yeah Top-top and don't use We should we should do a compilation of sam shit that he's on the show and just watch the video Ironing a shirt while still in it wearing a mage dress. I'm never gonna pop that one dude throwing her great Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my god. All right, everybody in the chat. Thank you, toad. Thank you. We'll see you Mar or night on patreon Follow me on my space
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