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Abby, Patrick, and Dan venture deep into the labyrinthine warrens of Kane Parson’s smash-hit movie, Backrooms (2026). Eschewing the impulse to pin the film down to background “lore” or a single interpretative meaning, they instead take up both the film and its success as symptomatic expressions of an overdetermined multitude of anxieties, cultural experiences, and generational touchstones. From the uncanny to creepypastas to strip-malls to COVID to therapy to internet surveillance and beyond, Abby, Patrick, and Dan excavate the materials that fill the backrooms of our culture’s networked unconscious, asking questions that implicate the conditions of the work of art under conditions of AI reproduction and our fears about interiority itself.
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Ordinary Unhappiness — 157: Wild Analysis: Backrooms Teaser. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
Guys, can someone please explain to me why it seems like all movies are horror movies now? I mean, have you been to theaters lately? You have to be with other people. There's people chewing popcorn chewing popcorn. Oh, that sounds chewing popcorn. I've never even heard someone say the words chewing popcorn. Yeah. Christopher Nolan's the Odyssey on the biggest screen possible. And I just hear somebody munching crunch right behind me. True story that you didn't have. It's for two hours and 40 minutes or whatever it is. Then watch Christopher Nolan's the Odyssey to answer your question of why all movies are horror movies. I disagree. There's lots of non-hore movies. Okay, but like we have like we have horny movies. They're back. We have pornography never went away to have a festival. Yeah. Why just me? I'd spend a while since I saw the theater. How do you know, Patrick? I don't not all horror movies are horror movies. It just happens that the movies that are striking the zeitgeist like a tuning fork happen to
be horror movies. Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. I don't mean literally all movies in theaters are horror movies, but it does feel like the ones that people are talking about are like I can't even keep track. You know how I feel about horror movies. So I'm sort of like for me, when things are horrible, I don't turn more into horror movies. Or to horror. And yet it seems like perhaps that's I don't know. It's like we've we've exited this time where all movies were Marvel movies and now all movies are horror movies. I'm not saying this is fine-grained cultural analysis. I just want to know why everything is like obsession and back rooms and sex and death at camp my asthma. Is that the side what is called? Yeah, it's something like that. Yeah, something it's got a long name. You know what I mean? They're still making Marvel movies though, right? I mean, there's still people are still laundering money through $100 million Marvel movies, right? 250 million more like.
Yeah. Yeah. There's probably a little bit of a convergence like imagine you go into I could see a back rooms where it's just piles of like slightly off brand and increasingly horrifying promotional brick of brick and action figures for Marvel movies that haven't quite come out or that never could come out. I also feel like the only Marvel movie I ever wanted to see because it stars Paul Red, Ant-Man. I also never saw because it just makes me feel like maybe I'll show up and it will just be ants everywhere. Just Paul Red being charming. I liked it. Okay. Well, I didn't like it. I mean, okay. It's a movie where eventually a CGI suit starts punching CGI. What is he fighting that bugs? But there aren't millions of ants. No, not really. Not really. That's a binary yes or no. I mean, I genuinely don't remember because I think there have been three Ant-Man movies. It's been like 15 years. So at least three ants is what I'm hearing.
Yeah. Paul Red has an age today. Yeah. Well, I don't know. They're not all horror movies and the movies that aren't horror movies are horrifying in how little they seem to care about the world that we live in today. It kind of feels like, do you guys hear about that one new movie about you can only have sex once a year if you're single? Yeah, I was like the purge, but for sex. But the banging? Yeah. We're like the reverse purge. Yeah. Of a purge, but love. I thought that by purge idea, though, like what I'm going to do on the purge day when everyone else is outside, you know, probably doing actual sex crimes and all the other violence and cannibalism and shit. No, I think I know what your idea is. I could guess. Can I say it back to you? See if I can write. Go for it. Bank fraud. Well, yes, but specifically in the mode of filing leans on people just like people who are lately, I'll be very upset if that happens to me. Well, I mean, a lot of people will be very upset because they're going to wake up day after the purge and like, thank God, my family, you know, survive in our house. Like, no, no, it's my fucking house.
I own it now. I will see you in court. Wait, is that how we're finally going to enter the world of home ownership? Housing crisis. Okay. So I'm going to answer my question. I'm, yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to go back to the original question. I think the feeling that you have of while pop cult, I guess that's probably the better way to put it. Pop culture cares a lot about horror right now is because I think horror is where popular culture is processing the kind of horror that is being alive in 2026, processing all of this right now. I can't think of any other genre that's hidden that feeling, that right. We're tackling those topics that right. That tracks with my answer to your question, Abby, when you're like, well, why are all movies horror now? I just had this involuntary flashback to fuck a decade ago, like November 20th. No, late November, early December.
No, thanks. Giving weekend 2016 in New York, buying weed from this guy and it was really, really good weed. But also I was like just making conversation because sometimes I can feel off the make of this back when it wasn't a dispense for a situation where I'm like, I'm like, it's not his guy. Also post statute of limitations. What's in there? Where were you buying? When were you buying? This was the guy who looked like Jesus, like the thin guy. Oh, he's not having Thanksgiving with your family. I think we were, but I left or ahead of the not not on Thanksgiving day, but like these are not unrelated, right? So anyways, I and this guy was, it was very good stuff. But also I'm just like making conversation with him and he had the kind of man's and eyes thing going to like this. This was a dude who's like, you know, the best way to be around toddlers when I babysit just a little bit of ketamine. I'm like, what the fuck is with whatever? But I was like talking to him just to find, wait, at some point, like I'm like, I'm like, I, he's trying to upsell you. I mean, maybe the ketamine is what I really needed for Thanksgiving.
I heard call. It wasn't great. But the before we discovered the holiday syndrome. The holiday syndrome had already discovered us. The symptom pool was already there in any event. I remember this like being, you're just being like this stuff. This stuff is amazing. But also, I don't know, maybe just some getting older, but also dude, you know, you're an expert in this is the weed getting too strong. Because now whenever I have any, like there's some, I'm rolling the dice and I get real paranoid. No matter whether or not it's like, you know, sleepy indigable shit, whatever, right? And again, the guy with the man's and eyes, who is otherwise had an interesting aura, just looks at me, like dialed right in and he's like, motherfucker, it's November 2016. And I was like, oh yeah, it's not the weed. It is the entire world. Like we had just elected Donald Trump. Everything is horrible or everything is about to get horrible with this ubiquitous sense of dread.
It's mediated through all these images and even dissociating gives you back like fragments of that shit and you start having a panic attack or you realize that you have always been having some kind of panic experience and now you're just going to have it.
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