170: The Sports Doctor Radio Show with Dr Robert Weil - Episode 170

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1:06He's now back with Athletical Physical Therapy and back at sports performance volleyball. He's returning along with Dr. Mark Sherwood, a holistic functional physician, speaker author, and I think actor. And the sports doctor's in with some upcoming guest emails. Hey Jimmy Spinali, welcome back to the sports doctor, my friend. Special Sports Performance, always my love. Yeah, I could give it some background, Jimmy. On, we know I know, with the Cardinals, you've been so involved in the world of soccer. You must have been excited with the World Cup. Give it some background on you and the world of athletic training. Well, being that flight trainer certified for 28 years, get certified here, actually in North Central College. I went to school out by Kansas City. Worked with the same Los Cardinals organization, the Meyer Leagues for a few years, were for sports performance volleyball. This is actually my second run with them. I was there from 0409 left for the US soccer for the US national team, for the U-17s, down in the Brady-Cum Florida.

2:08Worked some private practice and then the opportunity to open up to do some stuff more up here in the Chicago land, did some stuff also with MLS soccer, Tampa Bay United. Great experience, MLS next club and back to sports performance in Chicago and back home. Yes, the back with athletic go, right? Yes, athletic physical therapy. You know, they found that Mark Kaufman was on my radio show in College of the Page WDCB when he had three clinics 100 years ago. Well, that's changed quite a bit. I don't know how many states he's in. He's probably in most states in the country. And one of his longtime colleagues, Joe Brezzingham, who rode the lower over with me with the whole Evan Leicic Check Olympic Go Metal figure skating, he was 10 years old when I put up on it, it's been in his state. And so Joe Brezzingham, he's been on numerous numerous times. So, Athletico, one of the great organizations.

3:09And you return Jimmy again, working with these high performance kids. We always talked about it. Jimmy and I, we did screenings with sports performance volleyball way back when he was here in the 040506. Hello, Lindsey Mangal. Yes. Yes, that's one of the greatest athletes. She's a great life coach now, but Lindsey was saying hello when she was in Libero on some of those super duper, you know, I go far back with sports performance where I handed Rick Butler. They're really first owner. I handed him the volleyball when we were at sports institute with Bob Guida. And he said, what's the volleyball? And his arrest is history. Bob Guida being the strength and conditioning coach for many of the Olympic teams, gosh, going back to like 1980s when they won. So, all this experience, Jimmy, worked with these high caliber kids.

4:12There's so much pressure, you know, the more talented the kid is, the more the pressure is there. How have you seen the revolution of the youth sports industry using sports performance as an example, even Athletico with the other new world? Well, Athletico is the premier physical therapy in the country. In my opinion, you won't find a better organization with the structure and run by Mark Hoffman. They do a great job of evolving over the years with new facilities, blood flow restriction, normatex. We offer so many services free injury screenings. I've seen the evolution athletes bigger, faster, stronger, simply like you don't compete now with more weight training consistently and just putting a whole commitment to what you need to do to be a high level athlete. You're going to be left behind. So, if there's so much just competition now, like you have to put the work into be great. Yeah. Now, again, the owner way back Rick Butler was a prodigy with Guida and all of his exercise philosophy.

5:18Strengthening feet, knuckle, rubber bands, balance boards, all of these kinds of things that were almost unique with what you guys put together over the years, paying attention with all that jumping. And so again, the mental side, the relationship side, generally between the coaches, the parents, the kids themselves. I mean, you were down at one of the greatest academies in the country. Was that Bradenton? Yes, I was down at the U 17 national team and Bradieton down there. And a lot of the guys are just on that US World Cup team. Like five or six of those guys made it to that level. Yes. And they again, you know, when you think about specialization, we talk all about, we love every young kid to play all these different sports. That's great. Let's you again, you're a 12 year old soccer player or a figure skater or a gymnast and this is all, you know, that you want to do. So the, how have you found the fact that these kids are supposed to be enjoying themselves and that the relationships between teammates and some of the different between the coaches and parents have found that teams, the communication capabilities have grown.

6:31I'm not going on wood. Yes. Yeah. We put a structure program together communication with the coaches and the staff. We got a high level staffer at sports performance led by Troy Guilpe. He was the understudy of the Rick and Cheryl Butler. We have a structure, huge program in place. The staff is world class. We've had some our staff just recently left for their pros actually in Europe. We have four or five people. So we're bringing in the elite level staff to take it to another level again to the USA, actually we're going back to the USA, V United States Voliable Association again. So we're looking to win some more national championships for bringing that basically that run from 2000 to 210 back, you know, where, where the top gum were always going to be the top gun here. I again, overall those years that it was interesting because sports performance volleyball, one of their claims to fame over the years was every one of their 18 year old players went to vision one.

7:31It was an unbelievable record with these kids and you know, a lot of people don't realize the highest jumpers in the world are the volleyball was not necessarily the basketball players. I don't know if I'm on the money with that Jimmy. What do you say? Yeah, you're pretty spot out there. You're talking 11 feet, 10 feet plus for ladies. No question. And the the idea and explosion again of women sports again sports performance volleyball like I was just mentioning when the heart team made to whatever these were these women's teams that were perpetual national competitors and champions and the revolution, you know, you've lived right through it. All of these different changes, the young girl asked me different world. They are a special breed. They really are. They put so much work in an effort or currently in our preseason. The boys are studying their season. The girls are kind of all season preseason workouts.

8:32We're having huge numbers coming in the weight room. Everything's really well structured here. We're looking to make that run back to the national title again next year. I'm super excited to be back here to make it happen with sports performance in that flutto go. You're right, man. I'm I'm with you. You know, we got I don't know how many kids we saw it together that became some of our orthotic hot shots as we started making the world of volleyball. Where are the facts that again, these a foot specialist cast the girls in volleyball at least that I saw forever would need trouble. And we had to get that point across when we were talking about the biomechanics and the role of a foot and what it was like to be jumping 10,000 times a week and trying to do the two things that you always made a big deal out of Jim Spanali. And number one was can we prevent problems in your hand physically and mentally and can we enhance performance?

9:36You want to step it too quicker. You want to jump higher. Guida was all about you got to land softer. If you don't learn how to come down with good stability and alignment, you won't live through it with a sport like like volleyball. So it's exciting to see some of the old team getting together in philosophy and so many other different ways. And how have you found the argument we had over the years when I would tell you that the world's worst shoes were always the soccer shoes. And we were trying to make a difference because these soccer players I go back to Arnold Stefan Hagen with the Chicago sting and we couldn't get these guys. They wanted to paint on the shoes and whatever, but I think it's come a long way. I think you helped along those lines. Didn't you Jim? Yes, quite a bit. And everything starts at your feet. Everything starts at your foot and works up by mechanically through the shin to the knees, the glutes. You got to have good glutes, drink good technique, good landing technique, teaching them proper not doing Valegate. You're not buckling those knees in. We're teaching proper technique and landing and strengthening those glutes and those ankles.

10:45It all starts at the ankles and works up through the chain. So completely right on that. Right. And as we get into the world of seniors and supersing you know when I wrote the article in 2020 about pickleball, it's physical. No one knew how to spell pickleball. You know, where we had people in the late scene is just running out there jumping running around like crazy realizing, holy cow, I better be in some sort of shape in order to play. But the world of preventing falls and that whole world of balance and stability has become such a huge part in the world of physical therapy. And I got let it go. It's really led to field in a lot of ways involving these screenings and many instances. Don't they? Yes, we are the premier place you want to go to. We got an amazing staff all over the region in Illinois throughout the country. We offer so many good services to get you in. We got so many connections with Northwestern endeavor health, duly, some of the top docs that you know we have been affiliated with Chicago Bears, the black locks.

11:46I mean, just big name organizations or performances big time. So you know, I get me to go. Yeah, one of my what am I claims to say everybody, you know the super bowl shuffle five of those guys had my orthotics in the shoes. I mean, I don't want to age myself. Jim and Matt the fact he's back. We said we had Dave you can and on about the month or so ago did so much rehab with McMahon as we were bragging about his headband and how he was paying attention to the world of diabetes. Now people of course go to the athletic or it's got to be is it athletico.com? Yes. What sports performance volleyball site? We are at spvb. So it's a great legs volleyball center.com great legs volleyball center.com. We got a brand new website. It's completely like new upgraded completely.

12:46Like I said, we're working. We're going back to the United States volleyball super excited here. Super high level. When did you go down south? What did you leave sports performance? I left sports performance in the fall of 2009 for US soccer and braiding. Wow. So he was talking to you in like another 15, 16 years. Yeah. Then a run back. Who is that old guy in the locker room? Wow. It's a finale. 28 years athletic trainer certified. I'm kind of the old dinosaur now but I like to teach and I like to and to give him preaching show some knowledge of my what I've seen all over travel over the world. Yeah. You guys still have you guys still have the jump box the guy to. We got everything. Yes. If you walked into Bob guided clinic way back when with the volleyball teams you have always mini trims.

13:46Everybody with different sports that the guy was a baseball player who was bouncing on the mini trim fairfoot with his glove on playing catch. He was a hockey player who was playing a hockey stick. If he was a tennis player who he made such a big deal about he said, you know, work the breaks. You got to work the opposite when you're dealing with you know like a sport like soccer was so much running and so much to change the direction. The world cup was an exciting time. Jimmy. I think we're starting to belong in the group. What do you think? We had a killer world cup here. I think we showed the world now what we can do again. We did it 94 but it's got so much bigger now. Spain was awesome. Just you know the fans all over the world the Dutch the Spanish you had the Scottish. They love the country the Japanese. It's just massively huge a world cup. They don't like it. The year old maybe but the world cup is just another level. Yes. This was an interesting experience to most of us in America and we you know there was tremendous crowds and excitement which was great.

14:51Over the years you know it was always the kids play soccer. Hey that's great but the fandom and the professional even though the Chicago sting in Stephensburg but now the idea of billions of individuals being so involved. I thought it was really something that will be of course the women have been floating around with go cup championships for a while. Have a look at the MLS how big that's gotten since 1996. We have over 30 something teams now you know and some of the big names in the world have played here. Back on Lee Wendowski you name it. You know I wanted to mention two before I knew we time with fly with you is that by the way physical therapists people can go to physical therapy and get an opinion and evaluation. So I'm going to talk about the inspiration learn how to do some great exercises without a prescription. No no no no no we're going to do free injuries. We can do direct access where we get you and every parent of a young athlete should take advantage of what should my son of daughter be doing.

15:54So I think that's the way they can to stay out of trouble and strengthen their body. This is why the chapter in my book is called the prodigy sports where we talk about specialization but we also talk about do these two things everybody whatever your ages. Straighten your feet and ankles and work balance and work stability and that's without the only upper extremity. And the brain health that you guys have been so involved in you know again with the mental games you quickly give us the website again. People can find out about all the action over there at athletic sports performance. Athletico.com and then we have regional all kind of stuff all over the region. You stayed at Illinois all over the country. We've got plenty of great options, great positions, great group, free injury screenings. We got direct access to get you in for therapy without seeing the physician for close up to a month. I'm at the Great Lakes volleyball center.com sports performance volleyball club. The most national championships in the country at 113 national titles since 1981.

16:59Well as long as we were involved with them we always jumped to which is higher than everybody else. Step quicker. Hey Jimmy Spinaly man thank you so much. We definitely have you back you know you've been on my roster forever. Want to thank you so much hold on we'll be right back everybody. It's the sports class. Class act. Thank you. Okay. Health radio. This nation I make you feel good. Okay. Health radio. This nation I make you feel good. Yes. Hey everybody we're back. I'm Dr. Rob Wilds sports. But I just want to welcome Dr. Mark Sherwood. He's a holistic functional physician.

18:04He's a speaker author. I think he's also an actor off there. I'm about to ask Dr. Mark Sherwood. Welcome to the sports doctor. Hey thanks for having me. I appreciate it. You know from the physical to the mental we had a long time at Athletic Training colleague of mine from the world class volleyball world. And of course there's so much of what you're talking about is I call it the mental game on the sports doctor. Give us some background on yourself and the world of functional and holistic medicine. Well I've got an interesting background of course what brought me here I was a former police officer a former professional athlete and traveled all around the world as well with the world famous power team and you would think how does that translate to being a traditional major path. A functional medicine oriented doctor. Well what what what were you an athlete is. Yeah I was a baseball player actually yes. Okay. So a little bit too big and too stiff for that now but it was my glory days let's just say.

19:04But yeah I was asked to develop a wellness program for police officers at the time and it didn't exist. So I started studying and I found that the emotional component you know PTSD was tied to behaviors and and it just broke my heart you know Dr. Bob and it really it kind of sets me up halfway as protection services I could do more not just for police officers but for everyone out there. So that just kind of got me studying is like for us a gun by say started running and never stopped I started studying and never stopped. Yes the again the mental game where I've had on whether they're psychologists like I just I had a doubt therapist from the Netherlands on a few months ago talking about 2500 year old values and principles that make as much sense today in the locker room or the board group as they did. Yeah I was a year ago but the new attention the first baseball player Eric Sada home from the Yankees that I put orthotics in his bike 1978 mark he had a hypnotist and the teen story was out of his mind.

20:12Yeah I was crazy that voodoo and this was the part of the revolution that I've watched over my decade on the radio as well as being in sports for the dietary where the value of the mental game is now a very big deal. Our friends at that one the whole podcasting in so many different areas and self-improvement anti aging you know I had to explain to these people what the world biohacking meant. I look at biohacking as like a combination of biology anatomy biochemistry. I try to make I try to keep it real simple salesman when I talk about the new medicine it's number one each smarter we could probably do five shows on that number two is keep moving we probably could do at least five shows on that and number three again is what we're talking about is this mental component.

21:13Do things to reduce stress you know working with the fire department working one of my colleagues is a contributor to my book hash nick a sports parents Robin Andrews who founded the Institute of Sports for Foreign got a wall of gold medals with the ball with the gymnastics team he worked with the Navy field. And he was working again on the mental side of recovering from injuries so I would imagine again they please department. The idea that they really didn't have anything specific what do you mean have these guys are overweight this is big news is the time wasn't it really was and not really you mentioned the visual emotional part of this it's a big deal because. If you can't see yourself achieving something or see yourself getting better you won't and I told people many times that it your feelings will change. But you can't let your feelings affect your vision and your purpose and your mission those have to follow behind when feeling lead everything becomes clouded and shrouded you get confused you have to almost put the feelings in really mayor and focus back on the goal ahead.

22:23To visualize that makes it possible. Yes the late great sports psychologist Jim Vickery shared the radio with me in the 90s probably about five years he work with the white socks he work with the prisons he work with education and he had a couple of bullet points sports parents he said number one don't be a critic. Number two you'll be a good listener but again the inclusion of the whether you're the best athlete in the world or their grandmother or their son of daughter is a very very big deal in the idea of being able to train these mental systems because it's so much easier said than done. And there's so much is like the wild west everybody's an expert and everybody's a coach now you can't you can't go around the corner without meeting five life coaches how do you found that challenge in your own niche mark with maybe what you learned working with the police and what you apply now and give us so what's the best site people can find out about you and your work.

23:25You know people can find us at functional dr dot com and my wife and I've done this long time but i yeah you're right there's a trend out there that everybody becomes next by reading a book or. Certainly going on to chat gpt or something like that but but ultimately it takes experience there's new on system that's an art form to build it. To speak with someone to see and hear perhaps what they're not telling you and and the topic mark two of where people will ask you know what is what is a natural pathic or functional medicine the idea of paying so much more attention than you know what we're used to here in the United States with surgery a bill or good luck to you. Have you found the new excitement about functional medicine natural pathic what is that included your mind. I think it's looking at the whole entire person not just a physical stuff but the emotional the spiritual the intellectual the financial stuff it's like in the experience of humanity human.

24:25Is is a unique thing to each of us so you have to look at the past the present and you also must look at a sort of a vision of their future and so put it all that together to come up with the treatment program is is quite difficult but but I think the key point of that you have to listen and pay attention to understand the history of the human being they're talking to you because the mystery is many times uncovered in the history. How do you find the relationship between medicine all the different allergies the psychology the psychiatry is in all these different groups mental trainers the personal trainers and how it mixes in you know again the spiritual side of the highest level of sports medicine was totally ignored and now it's included time in many ways how do you found the relationship with the whether it's the pediatrician. The pediatric or the general practitioner or any of these allergies in you and what you do.

25:29There is brilliance in most sides of the coin and we have to pick it out great great I'm not anti medicine I'm not anti mainstream on that anti Western medicine there's some brilliance there we have great trauma care great emergency medicine. But we have in that window of time in that space we've dependent upon medicine too much and we've left out some of the things that can keep us out of that world so I'm looking both sides Bob and try to come up with the best answer for the person utilizing everything I know with all that I know from both sides of that coin and I think that gives people the options and it gives them the consent choice to build a pick what is best for them and certainly people who are in the world are not going to be able to do that. Certainly people are not stupid you know they're going to gravitate with what makes them better most of the time and so I just try to lay a pathway out there for them that I like to say is described as a path to the pediatrician. You know between the pandemic and social media the world has turned upside down to two areas to the left is the whole different crazy high pressure scenario I like one of the you terms you use what says a lot.

26:41You talk about the changing normal to optimal talk a little bit about that yeah I'm tired of the norms that we've accepted in America we sent our bar about as low as you could go to call that good and it's getting lower all the time it's like if you were coaching. Students you would never tell them to shoot for a C or a B you would never tell them to try to miss a shot or try to drop a pass or try to drop a catch you tell them to win you tell them to win the race not to get second and so why is it okay for us as human beings to be told to finish second told average we have been deceived to the point of just clear out now lies the people telling me you're normal when you're. Right now care system yes the United States is one of only two countries in the world New Zealand's the other that allows prescription medicines to be advertised on television you have no idea what effect is this had over our lifetimes and if it's not that it's the diet commercial.

27:45So these are some of these things and this is why I believe the area of the functional medicine paying attention to the person in all the different aspects what's going on in their life you can't do that attention to the minute appointment so this is why it's been really really great to see individuals with yourself where you're talking about you know paying attention to you know training these systems you know whether you're a big fan of things like. We're people are going to be doing some relaxation they're trying to spend some time each day they're using some meditation potentially what's your functional medical institute. Yeah it's called the functional medical institute and we look at nutrition sleep stress management movement genetics hormones peptide supplementation emotional health physical health and. You know with our 25,000 patients 5,000 active we've got some really cool stories of people are all of the country and more. I got a new category for your buddy what their foot mechanics I love it I can include that man and refer him to you got to include it in my surgical career years ago I would offer right rate on bunions and hammer toes on grandma who was 75.

28:57A daughter who was in her 40s and we were seeing trouble as a teenager so many times when you're talking about what teams did you place for by the way in baseball. Yeah I played for a team in Australia called the Adelaide Cardinals and I was actually rookie the year over there go figure. Well what am I saying this gets in Australia is Sue Williams who is a sports hypnotherapist and again talking about the mental game this is about a big area of hypnosis again which was left about years ago when and people would probably be you know asking all the time you know mark it sounds great. And you know my figure skaters 25 years ago were doing visualization and again it was being left at many instances want to talk more about some of the different pearls that you have regarding the institute and normal to optimal we're talking with Mark Sherwood functional position I'll ask him again if I forget that he's an actor will be right back with the sports doctor.

30:07Okay health radio station I make you feel good. Okay health radio station I make you feel good. Everybody we're back with Mark Sherwood we're talking again the whole list of side you know it's interesting Mark years ago there was a term alternative medicine and over the years when I would have on Eastern culture Western culture there was that term alternative near you them are over the years my name say hello is no relation and you while he said hey what about the word complimentary all of a sudden people felt a lot more comfortable.

31:07In again in the blending of these different things and again like in your institute we're putting together all these areas the mental and physical side so give us some pearls regarding that institute and what you're trying to stress. And maybe some age limits that you know that you deal with the areas of interest. Yeah so with us I like to look at us as primary care positions and I'll define that as primarily caring about you enough to keep you out of the sit care system and so people play on those words a little bit I look at medicine as being a secondary level in other words if you truly care for yourself right. And the symptoms are not relevant because everything up to him is working well medicine becomes further less relevant so when you look at that like that medicines the second line therapy we're first line therapy and so. Yes I'm free have free have regarding rehab and again lots of new attention my colleague Bob Goldman 35 years ago starting the anti aging that thousands now of organizations but the idea again of that functional medicine the whole person much more than just our crazy system again this is you know the every professional athlete over the years that I knew in some way shape a form for example included.

32:32Marijuana medical marijuana relax pain relief but if he was caught you get thrown out of the league so they gave mopey or. Oh yeah oh yeah so so you're the pain till world and all of these these different areas and give us some bullet points in what you again what you're paying attention to when you're putting together a program how many male and female. What percentage of you looking at roughly we probably have about 70% female you know the females typically reminded of her health every 28 days for you know 35 40 years obviously it but they kind of lead the way and health and the men kind of follow I wish more men would catch up and quit being so reactive become more proactive but that's kind of a good but we're paying attention to things like my condra optimization making sure that we have the most basic organelle of the system. Optimize to create energy for the system to operate with and so how do you test for that stuff how are you.

33:32To these for these new terms. And some of these might oh conjure and people saying what's he talking about although one of my newest supporter on the show or Dr. Brian and the importance of nitric oxide yeah how do people get evaluated to some of these values that you're looking at well obviously to tag on a doctor Brian his personal friend of mine we look at a DMA and I can see with a DMA if we're getting a mask or stiffening we can also test nitrates with those trips you know determining whether a therapy is working or not we can look at genetics of an individual person of the model and I want to see how to optimize and dealing with free radicals we can use molecular hydrogen which is a unique therapy that we use all the time in a D some auto condra peptide. So we're talking to parents we're talking to parents of high performance kids and again I know you're very involved in the business world you got people who could afford whatever they need in many many instances we're always talking about the challenge of getting you know I'm very involved in this craziness with juvenile type 2 diabetes

34:40that 25 years ago was called adult onset diabetes we've been talking about obesity forever how do you look at the early of the better or school systems to try to get some of these principal at least look that much earlier when we're talking wellness health and wellness. You've got to start with inputs of food and water man the food is terrible today it's not even fit for you in the consumption and yet we continue to feed it to our kids I don't know if you can eat food from the natural source. Now we all knew fast food fast food what we didn't know was that so much of what we grew up on really was hey man this ain't good for you. You know all this processing and everything I think now we're starting to pay some real attention that's why we say on the sports doctor we got awareness number one education number two with action number three but this shocks a lot of people the holy cow a lot of our diet is rolling my eyes.

35:45Yeah man we are in the most unhealthy position we've ever been in the history of mankind's existence. We think about that we've never been more in health now and it's not okay and it needs to change right now or we must which is kiss our world goodbye it's that's the right. We can't afford it. No can't afford one out of every three people being pre diabetic one out of every three to five people in nursing homes the diabetic. It's unbelievable and so what we're trying to get the point across everybody including you and your group is we've got to get the nutrition and exercise side right away early the younger the better as part of their life not everybody plays on a team. And by the time you're in junior high half the kids are looking at greens and they're not on doing anything athletically and ten years later we've got type two diabetes so that's why I believe that the topics like what you're talking about are you know especially with age groups what are you looking at with age groups the earlier the better mark.

36:50Yeah we get parents in here that bring their kids a lot of times I think primarily we'll deal with kids as long as the parents are here but our patient base is probably thirty thirty five probably sixty sixty five you know you can't get that point where aging is not for cities and you realize it so you want to do something about it. I hear you well where's my question for all you guys which is again how do you sports psychology skills mark. Yeah man I work on that all the time I remember well if you work with the coaches or the parents again or the owner or the CEO and all of these different things and trying to implement some of these different things and everybody's an expert this is the wild worst with some of the west that we were dealing with but I really really believe. After over forty five years on the radio that we're getting through what do you think Mark. We're making headway man there's there's not been this conversation level of health in my lifetime now I'm pleased with it we're a long long way to go but it's a good start.

37:52And again the idea that the people really not only want to age they want to age well and they want to be able to be active for as long as possible and again this is when we get down I keep it real simple salesman you got to pay big attention to your personal nutrition including I've had sports pharmacists on this new area over the past couple years new area of excitement have you heard a sports pharmacy mark. I have yes and very very good stuff yes that very you know who with hormones and with added is then with supplements etc. looking at that in the area and again then getting to number two which is keep moving you want to go to the gym you want to be a runner you want to do Pilates you want to do yoga but the early is a better you know I wrote an article in 2008 Mark for the school system was called let's get him walking. And I wanted them to include it to curriculum but then I realized people say good luck here trying to change what they're doing in school you know it might be tough is changing what they do with the police give us a new time with fly with you mark mark give us again what people can find out about you in your work yeah they're going to go to functional dr dot com.

39:12Again Mark Sherwood you're on our roster will definitely look to have you back I want to thank you so much but hold on for a minute Mark everybody will be right back with the sports doctors in segment. Everybody we're back it is the sports doctors in segment where we preview some upcoming guests and topics we add a little Dr. Bob wisdom maybe answer a few emails next week John Barry Hill he's one of the major players in the that one. Brand building podcasting world he's very involved in the world of the artificial intelligence so we're looking forward to him joining us and Michael fallquist who is the CEO of think plus energy clean healthy energy environment all that's going on with the data centers and the electricity in the grid so he's going to

40:26region he was born back in January bring us up to date on what's being done with batteries etc the following week that I was couple of long time for its medicine colleagues Dr. James Stockson internationally known sports chiropractic physician a prominent author on the world of the thoracic out with syndrome and the creator of the vibrant. And then one of our areas was popular massage therapist Michael sola work with I don't know how many different major leaguers and other great athletes and some great shows coming up to Dr. Bob again shout out to my friends at that one the country's leading podcast as well as brand group we've had a lot of guests over the past got six months with that group so we want to say how so we want to say hi Dr. Bob again pushes the two exercises we want to go over it again I mentioned it with the will we talking with Jimmy Spinaly the great athletic trainer today whether you are a senior whether you're a pickleball player whether you're a sports parent whether you son of daughter is a serious athlete at whatever age or level we want to include besides what they might

41:51be also doing working straightening feet knuckles and working on balance the two areas that are crucial to stability movement safety and again like I was talking to my friends from at let it go it's apparent and or coach wants to an athlete wants to find out some input on a good home program athletic athletic goes a great place to tune into and this is something that we really also talk about when we're dealing with the prodigy sports which is a chapter in hashtag a sports parents by the way people can go to the sports doctor radio dot com we all about the whole same all about the book all about the radio show the sports doctor radio dot com and the area is again that we talk about to be included with any running jumping sport with almost any sport in existence one of the most common problem is ankle still number one injury so we that's why we want to pre have strength in those areas as well as working on balance whether we're dealing with fall prevention with seniors

43:18and these are the two exercises we really been pushing in the world of pickle ball regardless of your age I want to talk I think we got time for a boat Tim says he talks so much about figure skating and orthotics yet Tim I do we just celebrated oh my gosh sixteen years to seven life to check the young kid grew up in the middle of the night he was ten years old he put orthotics in the skate coach the great candy brown beer and he was a little bit more direct twelve years later he was the Olympic gold medalist still putting orthotics in the skates of the kid and we just celebrated our latest gold medalist Daniel Shay long time he was like a teenager we put orthotics in the skate because with ankle problems he just turned thirty five part of the gold medal figure skating Olympic team so usually we're dealing with problems with with why we put orthotics in skate or arches hurt you got bumps on the back of the heel his ankle hurting her knees hurt et cetera et cetera but what's been exciting over the decades is the enhanced everything in skating when the footnacle of put in their optimum position which is what orthotic do Mary says there's so much attention

44:37on the internet or whatever with these straps and wraps plan a face I just plan a face I just uh... Mary arrived plan to face I just an inflammation of the tensioned and then banned on the bottom of our feet that connects from the heel to the toes uh... mostly aggravated in the arch area also mostly in the heel area is the most common problem we see in active people even in people who spend all time on their feet four years we've had great success when we would add proper art support ideally a custom orthotics to whatever else they or we would do it have physical therapy or medication rest in recovery is so much who plot with uh... flat shoes and barefoot and we always included over the years in sports medicine bearfoot training

45:40we had our athletes working out sometimes on a grassy golf course on the beach working those feet great piece of equipment the sand dune stepper which really is a foam like piece of apparatus that could really work the gripping power uh... and again the plan a fashion rubber band great way to strengthen uh... the ankle and again we see in so many areas that the plan a fashionist is a problem and if you leave out the alignments of the foot whatever strap or whatever padding or medicine you use you're not gonna get the same result you have to include optimum position this person have a high arch they flat footed they very flexible of the stiff jointed et cetera et cetera so the foot mechanics very very important foot mechanics are often inherited she the kids got high arches just like his dad and grandpa boy she's bold like it just like mom and grandma

46:42jeez the girls they all have fun point to consider everybody t next week for stock to thank everybody