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By the way, Drew was saying a Caden Lewis can't shoot free throws, not black, no, no,

alcohol can definitely shoot free throws, Caden Lewis, not so much.

Yeah.

One person writes, Matt, I glad to have you back.

Tell me what the atmosphere was like in that Duke Yukon game while I was on here Tuesday

and talked about it.

So I won't go into detail, but it was the awesome best.

Yeah, it was one of the best environments you've ever been in without question.

That's because the crowd was half Duke, half Yukon going back and forth, and then

the shot just came out of nowhere.

You know, it was like the always shot.

There's something about and call it like college basketball.

I think the fact that you can't call time out and move it to half court.

Yeah.

Right.

Which that allows for more buzzer beaters, but you also don't get like the full court

excitement.

It's kind of like always thinking it's saying a clear, the fact that it happened so quickly

and there's no stop and play almost makes it to where you don't have time to process

how crazy it is.

Right.

Same thing with all way.

All right.

This was Drew.

Ty, I said need some of the favorite.

Let's get out of time out, though.

But this is not advanced in the ball.

Yeah.

But this like getting the steel or coming off a make, there's something about it just kind

of flowing like that that makes you go, whoa.

And that that was cool.

Your point of not being able to process it was perfect for the video of Grant Hill and

Bill Raptor.

I thought Bill Raptor had died.

They could process it.

I thought he might have died.

Like literally, it looked like he died.

And I loved it.

There are such a good team, by the way, I think Grant Hill is very good too.

But what an amazing moment.

But now we need them to lose.

This has all been fun, but we need them to not win title seven tonight.

Yeah.

You know, it's bad as we wanted Duke to lose.

Now you got to root against Connecticut.

And by the way, Yukon is a blue blood now.

Like you need to tell me how the conversation, it has to be Kentucky Duke, Carolina, Kansas

and Yukon.

And then you can debate whether you want to still put UCLA there, but you definitely

have to put Yukon.

They there's no argument that they're not in there.

Right.

Just if you look at the title count, you can't just have to you have to you can't kick

them out.

You can't say it's a recency bias.

Well, I mean, four of our titles were in a 10 year period in the 40s and 50s.

Like you have to, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, they're all in the 60s and 70s for the most

parts.

So you got to, uh, you got to do that.

It's crazy.

There's that.

You mentioned earlier though, though, when they go to the final, when they make get

the NCAA tournament, like either win it or they don't make it.

Yeah.

And three different, three different coaches is important.

It's important that they've won with three different coaches.

I mean, we have won with the most coaches.

We have won with five.

I was looking at this.

We've won with five.

Carolina's one with three and they've won with three.

And that's it.

And one of them was Kevin Ollie.

Yeah.

But that's it.

The amount of programs that have won with more than two coaches is three.

Wow.

Kentucky, Carolina and you color.

That's it.

That matters.

It does matter in terms of how you judge this stuff.

I do want to say so I'm going to, I need to take up for big blue nation.

And this is taking up for big blue nation in part against other people, but it's also

in part against some of our own parts of big blue nation.

And none of this is to criticize the point I'm about to make, but I also think it's completely

unfair.

So an account on Twitter called thrill Kite Lee, which is a really good name for a account.

By the way, I don't know who thrill Kite Lee is, but that's a great name for him.

Do you know who throw a cow?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I've seen him.

I've seen the account.

I don't know who it is.

Okay.

I thought you knew it.

It says he's class of 25 at UK.

So I was like, you hanging out with him.

No, I just know the no of the account.

Okay.

So he puts out.

I'm hearing that both Mark Pope and John Calipari have privately vented that UK's fan base has

negatively affected recruiting since 2020.

Other schools use the fan base and the negativity against UK.

And it is cost multiple elite recruits.

And that kind of went by a fans being like, our fans stink.

It's our own fans in general, saying that, yeah.

So I responded and drew, I thought you would be proud of this response.

I said, yeah, it couldn't be that since that time, this team has missed the tournament,

had two embarrassing first round losses, not started two top 10 picks and had a Ferrari

season in mediocrity.

No, it's got to be the fans fall.

It's definitely the five main tweets that people see.

This couldn't be the results of the team.

So since 2020 is very important because since 2020, we've lost Oakland.

We've lost to St. Peter's.

We've missed the tournament.

We've put reading Rob on the bench and we have had a Ferrari season play out the way

this one.

So I just want to take a second just to take up for big blue nation.

Now I'm not going to act like there aren't fools online.

Just go look at my responses on any given day.

People can be outrageously cruel online, outrageously, and it's gotten worse.

And I get it all the time.

The players get it in some ways worse and it's despicable that people do it.

But it's also unfortunately human reality.

Go look at what any human being of notoriety says and then read their responses.

It's awful.

And it's worse on Twitter than anywhere else, but it's also bad on TikTok.

It's really bad everywhere.

Some people seem the nicest, but that's because it's mostly women on Instagram.

But it's bad.

People are mean.

And on Twitter, they can use fake identities, which makes them even mean.

And I'm not trying to downplay that that happens, okay?

And I'm not downplaying it real tightly, even though I don't know who that is, is wrong

that coaches privately blame the faith.

I'll even go so far as to say he's right or she or whoever runs that account.

They do.

Cal did.

And I've heard that that has been done by some folks at UK.

I can't say it's pope specifically, but folks at UK now.

But I will just say this, they're full of it.

They are using other people for their own failures.

I want to remind you just what has happened in the last few weeks at other schools.

Hunter Dickinson went on a podcast and said that the Kansas team was ready to finish their

season early, because they hated their fans so much.

That was Kansas, who by the way, seems to be doing fine in recruiting.

Luke, go look at what Caden Booser just had to go through.

Go look at his com go look, just Google Caden Boosers name and see what people say about

him since that play, some of the worst I've ever seen, it is maybe the worst I've ever

seen.

Go look at any football team when a kicker misses a kick.

Yeah.

All right.

Go look at North Carolina after they lost to VCU and what their players.

And Hubert Davis took now do Kentucky fans?

Are they like that?

Yes.

Go look at what Louisville fans did with Michele Brown, we need to wouldn't play this year.

Right?

Yep.

Do our fans do that without question some of them.

But so do everybody else's.

So when you're losing players, it's not cause of that.

Have you heard John Shire say we can't get players because of what people said to Caden

Booser?

No.

Have you heard Kansas, they're they Tyron Stokes, where are they going to get him or they're

going to get him?

Don't hear anything.

It's not going to be because of the mean tweets because he's going to have to go to

one school or the other that has mean tweets.

It is an excuse to say that do now.

Do I think other coaches maybe use Kentucky fan tweets against the the program possibly?

But you know what we need to do?

Our fan base and our coaches and our administrators need to take up for the fans.

Why are we writing this stuff and blaming don't blame cat fan in your eye.

When that person says something bad, tell them to shut up.

But when we perpetuate this narrative that we're awful, we're hurting ourselves more

than the tweets, right?

If John Calipari and Mark Pope and again, I don't know that those two guys personally do

it.

But if they do, that only hurts us, right?

Yeah.

Because what we should say is they've got people to it's the, it's the, you know, nastiness

of the internet.

But how about we focus on the multi millions of Kentucky fans that are wonderful, right?

Those passionate fans in the country are right here.

The most passionate and best fans are here.

Now if you live your life only online, it can seem like the world is falling apart, right?

Yeah, it does.

Because online world, the life world stinks, but go outside, right smell the flowers.

And I have to remind myself this, now I get to online sometimes.

And then I have to go to a remote and go see like the actual thing, right?

I have to go to a game and like see the actual thing.

Because if you only live in this circle of online, the hate, the hate is, can be bad.

Now what I think happens with our players sometimes is they are perpetually online, some

of them.

And so they do feel that I get it.

So you know what we're never going to be able to do?

Fix the niceness online.

Because when you try to be nice to people or say something back, they just get meaner.

Sometimes, especially the anonymous accounts, and it's mostly anonymous accounts.

And it's mostly anonymous accounts.

How do we also even know these are Kentucky fans?

So I would say that continuing to perpetuate this myth that Kentucky fans are worst

at everybody else, only hurts us.

We should instead a focus on the good fans and b, don't let people off the hook by blaming

fans.

We've joked about how when we lose games, their fans go mad, Jones fault, chaos or fault.

Now we're to the point that if we don't get a recruit, it's random internet accounts

fault.

I just don't buy.

And that's my little brand.

That's a great rant.

I think we all need to hear that.

I think we see the small minority of fans that are a little vocal and we think that's

how it represents our entire fan base.

And that's not even close to being the truth.

But part of the reason people think it represents it is because we spend so much time yelling

at each other and like ignore those people.

And I do think it's the coach's responsibility and the administrator's responsibility to

hit the players to ignore them, right?

They do need to do that.

They should.

If a player comes up and I don't believe this has happened one time, by the way, I mean

John Calipari's last recruiting class had three of the top five players.

He had the number one center, the number one small forward, number one combo guard and

then Rob and Reed.

I mean, I don't think Cal, what more did he want from that class that ruined fans?

And with hope, if people are truly coming up to you and sit down recruiting and they're

saying, well, someone so at this SEC school, SEC school showed me this one tweet.

I'd be like, Hey, let me show you how we sold out Roperina for a press conference where

people didn't even really want me like, if you really think, if you really think Louisville

coaches and I don't know if this is true.

But if Louisville coaches are using Kentucky tweets, then just pull up Louisville fan tweets.

I get that's what if we're going to, if that's what you're going to have to do, then

do it because it's not just Kentucky.

Here is what is fact.

And I will say this and drop it.

If you ask me more questions, I'm just going to drop it.

There is a player of some significance who.

Staffs have come out this player of some significance did not come here and they have said that

a player's family member said it was because of tweets.

I don't even know if I believe that.

If you're losing a player in the in aisle age because of tweets, then they weren't coming

here anyway.

If they produce those tweets, show them all the good, show them that after a loss in Roperina,

there's still a lot of people waiting to get a picture in an autograph on their way out,

even if they had a bad game.

If I like the good stuff and be like, okay, the true, you showed me five tweets there

on a printout.

I'm sorry.

That happens.

But look at all this other stuff.

There is a player that these folks are using as an example.

I would say to you that privately, the people around that player have blamed other forces,

some of which we've talked about on this show.

And maybe this is a way to deflect from the blame going to them and put it on random

anonymous fans.

At the end of the day, the proof is in the pudding.

You get the players or you don't.

And by the way, once we start getting the players all the and we win, all these tweets

will go away.

Of course.

Winning cures everything.

If you win, it's going to be great.

We all want Kentucky to win.

I had this conversation a few weeks ago with one of the Kentucky somebody in the UK administration.

I said, look, we all want us to win.

Let's remember that.

Let's stop pointing fingers and let's try to win.

To me, that's the should be the ultimate goal.

We'll take a break.

We're back.

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Next machine, 77277452541 Person Rights Math, they should get former players who've been

on teams to talk about how good fans are after they leave.

You see that all the time, even somebody like Khalil Whitney, who had a tough time here,

then leaves and talks about how great it was that fans still supported them.

That will happen with all these guys too.

I mean, it's going to, it'll happen.

I mean, remember, Khalil Whitney, I'm not sure a career could have gone more negatively than

his did.

And yet people still embrace that kid when he comes back.

The twins talked about it when they were here this summer.

Yeah.

Yeah, twins.

I love they feel and love coming back now as a former player.

Even that documentary on Saturday, always says he sees all the tweets, but then he's like,

you just got to show it off, you know, it's Twitter, you know, and then go out the world.

The internet's mean.

Yeah.

We can't change the internet.

As old people like me, they want to tell these young kids, well, just stay off social

media.

Man, they grew up with social media.

They're also every day.

It's hard for them.

I totally get that.

All right.

One person writes, Matt, what do you think about President Trump's executive order?

Will you finally say he did something good?

I mean, he had quite a Easter tweet yesterday.

Yes, he is.

Speaking of tweets, that was on a holy day.

That was beautiful.

What did you almost cut?

I said, I was going to say shame on you.

Oh, I thought you were about to cut.

Oh, not cut.

Our bosses are in there.

That's true.

They are.

Are you calm, Dan?

I'm sorry.

All right.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Well, look, the executive order.

I mean, people can agree or disagree with what's in it.

My point is it's ultimately completely useless.

He's not allowed to do that.

So somebody will challenge it in court.

And when they do, he will lose.

So I do think where it is important is, it tells you where, like his staff is on this,

which is they want to have five years for five.

So this could mean guys have five years of eligibility now.

So that's something I don't think people are talking about a lot.

If Trump were to get his way, and again, none of this matters, Congress has to be the

one to do this.

But you could get five years to play.

So a guy forget about red shirts.

You could just play five years, which I think is interesting.

And then second, though, is only one transfer.

That's the part I don't like.

One free transfer, right?

Yeah.

What if you transfer and you just hate the place?

Yeah.

Let's play it out like this.

Right.

Let's take Jasper Johnson.

Okay.

Jasper Johnson comes to UK.

It doesn't work out.

Do you agree it's best for Jasper and UK for him to move on?

That's a good part about the transfer portal.

Here's the problem for, if you only have one transfer, let's say he goes to Alabama.

That's where he's going.

Let's say he goes to Alabama.

Now what if he gets down there and it doesn't work out?

Well, what if he gets down now Alabama can just say Jasper, after year one, we're only

going to pay $100,000.

You know why?

Because you can't do anything about it.

Can't transfer again.

You can't go anywhere.

You've given all the leverage to the schools.

The schools can now, because you're not allowed to sign a contract.

So Jasper can't ensure that the school can't just block him for the rest of his career.

Isn't that the exact thing we were trying to get away from before?

So I understand guys going five schools in five years, but Jay Billis was right.

Did you see the argument between Jay and Cal and Seth Greenford?

I wrote about it, but you can't really do it.

It was really good.

Jay Billis made a good point.

You want to fix this?

Let him sign contracts.

Let him sign contracts.

Then that'll fix it.

Yes.

But the NCAA doesn't want to do that.

They don't want to let him sign contracts.

Do you want to fix it?

Then let him do it.

No, what's interesting to me is everybody says this system is unsustainable.

Why?

The ratings are higher than they've ever been.

Good point.

The games are higher than they've ever been.

The money is high, but you know what?

It's going to go down eventually because people won't pay it.

But is anybody saying coaches should be paid less?

Is anybody saying A.D. should be paid less?

Maybe A.D. shouldn't get to sign a million dollar for life deals.

I'll say that.

But the president's not getting involved with that.

Is he?

No.

So I don't really care so much about the executive order because it's not going to stand up.

But this legislation at some point is going to happen.

And I think if they do the only one transfer, I understand why people think that sounds good.

But in practice, use Jasper Johnson.

If he transfers, wherever he goes, we'll now have control of that kid for the rest of

his time.

And there's not a thing he can do about it.

So is the rule where if he transferred a second time, he'd have to sit out a year like

it used to be?

Yes.

You only have the five-year window.

But then you only have the five-year window.

So you're basically forcing him to not play for a year.

Yeah.

I don't.

Is that good?

And is it kind of like I'll use North Carolina example because he liked North Carolina.

If he had transferred to North Carolina and then Hubert Abyt's gets fired, is he still

stuck?

Or did they go back to looking to that?

I don't know.

There's your circumstances.

And then are you going to get waivers and we're back to the situation where everybody

applies for waivers?

And we know they weren't good at that in the first place.

And then what if you go there and the coach does something bad to you?

What if you go there and the coach smacks you in the face?

Are you saying he can't leave now?

One more years.

Stuck.

So I just don't like, I don't like the rule.

I think they're, you know, John Calipari, man, every time he talks about it, the players

get older.

You know, he used to go, there's 24-year-olds playing basketball and then he's like,

there's 25-year-olds.

And then when he was on there with Billus, he goes, there's 28-year-olds, who is 28 playing

basketball?

He's the same joke with two kids in a mortgage.

I heard he got contentious with Cal and Billus because Billus was basically calling Cal

out for being in Greenberg.

Greenberg was a shockingly on Cal side and they were both like, there has to be rules,

there has to be rules.

And Billus was like, why?

This is the highest rate of tournament of all time.

Everyone agrees the quality of play is better than it's ever been.

Why do we, what, what, what is the deal?

If you don't want to pay money for these guys, just don't.

You don't have to like somebody's making you football ratings are up, basketball ratings

are up.

The sport is at its highest level.

I saw a great tweet and it was a little political, but I don't care.

It showed a picture of Zora on Mondami and it said, college basketball coaches in A.D.'s

whenever it comes to sports, they all become socialists.

They do.

They all are like, we got to stop paying these, we got to collectivize, we got to share

the money, we got to make sure players that like, they all become Zora.

Are you going to share their own money?

No, they are, no, they're capitalists for themselves, but they're socialists for the

play.

It's just, it's interesting.

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jumped in, you did it, oh my goodness, it's incredible.

I mean, I don't know how many people listening to this have gone ahead and bit the bullet and

watch the show.

I highly recommend episodes one through five, okay?

Highly recommend, especially two, two is my favorite, which one was two?

The retired guys with the hot tub in the house, like the guys with the hot tub in the house.

Yes, the two, the, the guy that does karate and all that, yeah, he's, he's good.

Have you watched them all?

Watch it all.

Okay, so, all right, so we can, the three of us talk about one through five, highly recommend,

crazy people, really petty disputes, a backstreet boy appearance, who saw that coming?

By the way, there's an update on the backstreet boy.

So love it, episode six, wow, wow.

Rick, have you seen neighbors?

No, I haven't seen that, I have to check that out.

I want you to, Rick, do you have HBO?

Yeah, HBO and I actually, I want you tonight, Rick, don't read one thing about it.

Just turn on neighbors and watch episode six only, okay, I'll do that.

Will you do that?

Are you here tomorrow?

I'm here all week.

Okay, so just tonight, just watch episode six and then come back and I want your thoughts.

Okay.

Why are you, why are you all have your hands in your head?

Poor Rick.

Don't you think Rick should see it?

I don't know.

I don't know if I want anybody to see that.

No, no, I really want to see you see.

Okay, so without spoiling it for Rick, because I want to give Rick the chance to watch it

and then we talk details.

Okay, wow, yeah, lock on on there, wow, good way to put it.

In the end, did you feel sorry for that guy?

I was so happy when he found community.

I thought he was going to stick around.

I was, I actually, what about the woman though?

Incredible.

The music video, I'm not stopping and shake that, you know, I won't say it here.

That was it.

That was a plot twist.

I thought we were focused on him and then she brought her own stuff to the dinner.

She had her own thing going.

And I did get very sad with the concept text messaging though.

I did.

You're not answering.

I couldn't, I couldn't watch the text, the text, the text, the texting, you know how

sometimes you just like, it's so cringy, you can't even look at it.

That was one of those, what about the community?

Again, speaking broadly here, so we don't spoil it for Rick.

I really didn't realize, I guess there were communities like that that existed where

I could see you living in one of those communities.

All I could think about is there's a world where Ryan Lemon could live here.

I can see him rocking that stage at karaoke night.

I definitely would rock karaoke night.

I am not sure when this show ends, you will not end up at one of those places.

I would say there are very few things at this stage of my life that make me go, whoa.

But when he got in that cart, golf cart and started driving through that place, that

was a woe.

That was a woe.

I wasn't ready.

I thought I was ready.

I wasn't ready.

I had been warned so many times at the point.

I'm like, I don't even know if I need to watch it.

I know much so much about it.

And I still had to pick my jaw off the floor.

So Rick, you take your view tonight, okay?

And then we'll talk about it tomorrow.

Sounds good to me.

Are you wanting to watch it?

And we won't have to go into details.

I want you to also know, Rick, all of us in the KSR world, our prayers are with you,

my man.

I appreciate that very much.

And you, we don't have to go into it for, but like everybody listening, I hope you

know that.

Rick.

Yes.

Okay.

I just want to make sure.

We love you, Rick.

We love you.

All right.

So now with that set, spring of Ellie.

Got a big hit last night.

Six and three.

Yeah.

Sweep the Rangers.

Sweep the Rangers.

A. Hohaneo.

Chase Burns had a big game.

Chase Burns had a big game.

He's the summer of Sal.

Spring of Ellie, summer of Sal.

He's leading candidate to win working of the year right now.

He's going to be working of the year.

He's going to be working of the year.

Wow.

So many needs to make a meme of that.

Sal Stewart, working of the year, just like the Star Wars, somebody said that to me.

I like Sal Stewart, working of the year.

Little speech.

You got a big hit.

So you know, not give it up yet.

It's just we get this every year.

Yeah.

We get the excitement.

And then around May, you'll be like, I'm never going again.

And then they'll win a series in June and you'll be back.

Yeah.

That's how it works.

Now, can I go ahead and tell you something I'm not mad about?

What's that?

This damn blister.

Oh, yeah.

What is with that?

We've talked about this.

I don't understand this blister.

Nicolados had the same blister for three years.

And he keeps being out.

And they're like, the story I read said they've tried every single thing.

One can do to fix a blister.

Have we found out that in the medical profession, the only unfixable thing is a finger blister?

He can't fix it.

He said they've tried rubbing sandpaper on it to get a callus.

It just keeps popping.

How's that possible?

I don't get it.

Like I said, I played baseball my whole life.

Now, one time did a pitcher miss a play at start because he had a blister.

Not ever.

But this has been three years of the same blister.

The same guy.

Three weeks I can understand.

It just won't go away.

And every time you try something, it gets worse.

But three years is ridiculous.

They're hard to explain to me.

So a blister is just like irritation from rubbing, right?

Yeah.

Over time.

We're time and time again.

But does your hand, like my feet, you can get a calluses.

Yeah.

They do.

But I have parts of my feet that can't blister because they've callused up.

Well, if he's been pitching.

Can your fingers not callus?

Exactly.

Then pitching the same hand for 20 years, you got soft little baby hands, maybe I don't

know what's going on there.

Do you know?

How do you know?

I can understand short term why it'd be a problem.

But the fact that this has spanned multiple seasons, I get what's what's the next one for

everything he's tried was he just got to amp you tell me what can you put.

Okay.

Somebody may be able to maybe there's a baseball.

Can I not put a bandaid on it?

Probably not.

Why?

Nothing on your throwing hand.

So you can't have a bandaid.

I don't think so.

Consider it a foreign substance, foreign object on your throwing hand and your glove, nothing

like that.

So you, I didn't realize that.

So you couldn't, you, no bandaid, not as your pitcher, not on your throwing hand.

But what do they think a bandaid is going to do?

Distract the hitter.

You'll see that bandaid.

Okay.

We'll make it flesh colored.

Yeah.

He can't use like the blue snoopy one or anything.

Yeah.

He just has to, he has to use the same as his skin.

I don't get it, man.

I've never heard a pitcher have this many problems with it.

Every now and then, maybe one come up for the same guy to happen year after year after

year.

Something's not right.

Maybe he got manicures on his whole life and he's got a little soft little baby hands.

It's inferiority because we could use him because he's good.

He's good.

He's 6'11."

Yeah.

All right.

They announced during the time I was away that UK has signed a deal with fanatics.

AMI signs a deal for 12 years that allows fanatics merchandise and 25 players during

those 12 years.

We'll have their own branded fanatics merchandise that's part of NIL deals.

What are your thoughts?

I like the idea of players being able to, you know, add another layer to them, go out

and get money.

I hope it does really well in NIL.

I don't know why we keep signing these decade long deals in such a time of uncertainty

where the sport changes on a dime any day.

But overall, I'd say it's positive as long as the players are getting compensated enough

to get here.

Yeah.

That's my take.

It seems positive to me.

I don't see the negative in general.

I think it seems creative and we ask for them to do creative things.

It's a creative thing.

I think with all of these deals, ultimately, the proof is in, do you get players?

Right?

So, yeah.

The idea, because they already have fanatics deals.

You can go get the logo.

Yes.

Like a Colin Chandler could have his own line through fanatics now using the UK.

And UK is the one that's, so I think the theory is UK goes up to tyrant stokes and says

we're going to create tyrant stokes branded clothes through fanatics and through that we

will give you more money and I, and I, I think that's the theory, Ryan, of what it is.

Yeah.

So, I just want to how they go spread it out.

Like does UK football, UK basketball, it's clear a strike, get one for UK women's basketball.

How do they try to spread it out?

I think they just figure out who they want.

Biggest names on campus.

Yeah.

I would have to just say who are the people that were going to get 25, guys, if you're

that 26 person.

Well, but I would bet if it's working for that fanatics probably guaranteed 25.

But if it's working, then maybe they'll do 50, you know, I mean, I don't, I'm withdrew.

I think it actually sounds like a good idea.

The question for me is only, you know, the proof sent, do you get players or not?

Like that's going to be the whole thing and I, and we'll have to wait and see.

We don't really know.

But a popular guy like, let me just just Trent, for example, who came in and everybody

who loved him in the 13th region, everybody would want to Trent.

No, I think if you did that with Trent Noah, when he first got here, that would have

been a great, exactly a great idea.

And I think the good, here's the good thing about this.

Like Kentucky branded has done these deals with players.

But now UK like in theory, a player could create Trent Noah branded merchandise that has

the UK logo and that he could wear in warm up.

Yeah.

A counter would be, what if they have a company that they like, you want to do deal with

and fanatics is like, well, we don't deal with that company.

That's there you go.

But I don't know the answer to that.

The details, if you're tyrant stokes and you already have a deal with a company, will

UK let you keep it?

We don't really know the answer to that.

UK has said yes, but privately, you hear conversations that they make it so difficult

that the players are like, I don't really think we can do this.

So I don't know.

But that is a very small group of players that we've, of course, like, handful of the top

basketball records, which is why I genuinely do believe that the JMI deal works for football.

We just have to see about basketball and I'm not ready to say yes or no yet, but I did

think this was positive.

There was a decent step.

You're saying enough for basketball because there's more opportunities for the basketball

players out there.

I think the football guys, we're, we're recruiting.

They don't come in here with deals.

We're recruiting like the 96th best, like, but basketball, we're recruiting the top four

dudes in America.

And they might already have deals.

Yeah.

Like tyrant stokes already has a deal with Nike.

This is clearly a saying to him, we'll work around it.

My question is, are you K and JMI when the kid has a deal with Adidas, are we willing

to work around and we don't know that we've had some hints that maybe they're not, but

we don't really know.

That's really the question.

Yeah.

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We're ready.

We got your repair guy ready to go in as soon as you close, your pool guy, your fence guy,

everybody's lined up ready to go as soon as you close.

All right.

And then the housewarming party.

Yeah.

I'm not.

We gotta have a housewarming party.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, first thing I get first.

We'll bring furniture.

I'll bring you a stool.

First thing I gotta get first, I was researching interior designers this week.

Yeah.

That's not a fun research.

No.

Buckle up on furnishing that place.

It's whatever you think it's going to be.

It's going to be more.

Yeah.

But I don't know how to judge them.

People in Lexington seem to have a lot of floral designs on their couches.

Patterns coming back.

Not necessarily the manly thing.

I don't want those floral designs.

So it's hard for me to find who does good designing that doesn't include like flowers.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

On the couches.

Well, Mario is going to design your studio, right?

In the kitchen again.

Mario doesn't get to do the new one.

We'll take a break.

We're back.

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Thank you to the wookie of the year pictures.

Those were good.

Yeah, I enjoyed that.

That's not this point.

You did a very, very, very good job.

This is still like what I was saying about the good fan base.

This is the best fan base, this, this, this thing.

And what I will say when I had conversations with ESPN at various points, I got asked

by one of the top people of ESPN, why do you think your audience is so good?

And I said the people of Kentucky are the best.

And they were like, yeah, yeah, not said no, but I'm serious.

Like they're the nicest people.

And one of them goes, even though you're a dirty liberal, and I said yes, even more so.

Like the fact that they people will overlook those things because they just, they're nice.

We know most of our people listening are not on your side politically.

Yeah, I mean, you know, but we all can laugh at the

dude at the Christie Nome's husband.

Can't we?

Oh my.

Oh my.

I think fair though, I can see you doing that too.

I don't know how we dress up.

I don't know if I'd walk around.

I can see you being on the neighbor's show and I can see you doing that as well.

Before we finish, Bill Raftery, he's 82 years old, but he did an interview where he said,

I'm actually older than that, but I don't tell people how old I am.

Really?

Did you see that?

No.

He said, I'm actually a few years older than that, but we, I don't want to say what it is.

Really?

So he's like forging a burst or two.

I don't know.

Is he like one of the Dominican baseball players who ages none known?

He started the lie and the teens and he just couldn't change it all.

Or could it have been, he changed his Facebook age for Tinder when he went to Dallas with

Drew.

He was traveling to the final floor.

He's like, I have a lower my age.

And then they won't let you change it back.

That happens to people.

I wouldn't know anything about it, but I've heard that that happens in the college basketball

media landscape.

And then 15 years later, you can't change it back.

And people think that your Facebook age is younger.

That's got to be what it is.

Just go with it.

But how about, so let me, so he's 82.

And I have said, I think he's amazing at his job for 82, but what if he's actually older

than 82 and still that good at his job?

How pretty impressive, isn't it?

Super impressive to him to be if he's mid 80s or higher, he's able to still do that.

His call of that Rayland Mullen shot will go down in history the way he handled it, you

know?

He's just one of the best.

I think he's awesome.

I mean, do you like him?

Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When a game starts, you got to hear the minimum before anything, it's like part of

when Paul has made that shot, you know, it looked like he died.

And then he goes, the audacity.

He even uses, you know, bigger words, astounding.

I love the fact, too, that I and Eagle shut up and let Rathardy cook there for a minute.

He did.

So did Grant Hill.

Yep.

They both kind of backed off.

Uh-huh.

Let him cook.

That's good stuff.

Yeah.

Most of the lines I think of in college basketball come from Rathard.

Yeah.

Unions with the kiss off the glass.

All of them.

Yeah.

They're all him.

The lingerie on the deck.

Yeah.

They're great.

Uh, he's probably the most second most iconic next to Vitale and history, right?

Vitale's going to be number one.

Yeah.

He's probably number two, right?

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Give me Yukon.

Not necessarily to win, but they're not getting blown out.

Was the axle playing?

Yes, the both guys are playing solo ball.

Great name.

And the axle both playing, but Yukon at least covers and it would not shock me if they

win.

You know, my stat about the five teams before the tournament, the only time I've

ever been wrong are Yukon teams.

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Michigan was one of my five.

I didn't have Yukon, but so in the future, it may just be these five teams and

Yukon.

I mean, with the experience they have been there three out of the last four years,

I mean, that, that will weigh in their favor.

I mean, a lot of the guys are new, but they have some guys that play on those teams.

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Got it.

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Welcome back.

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