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Question for you.

You're holding the mic again that way.

What if I told you the Dolphins Reside

make a Fitzpatrick to a three-year $40 million deal?

I'd say fantastic.

What if I said he got traded into the jets

and the jets signed him to that deal?

He'd be very unhappy.

Well, that's what happened.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

I mean, the thing about MacGyff's Patrick

is that he is a first round.

Oh, wow.

That was good all of a sudden.

No, that was a quick 180.

But look, we have a lot of money.

We have the third highest gematic cap in the NFL.

And so we're not going to spend it all.

And we have desperate needs at secondary.

And like, you know, like he has been a good player

in the past and maybe since we have a head coach

whose super power is calling plays, maybe he could,

I don't know, I guess it could work.

What?

You're holding the mic by the cord again.

Oh my God.

You're holding it, that thing at the bottom

is not a part of the microphone.

Yeah, the microphone part is the part you're supposed to hold.

You're getting, you just went back to doing it.

Again, you can hit the time codes and jump to the golf.

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At Mayo, experience.

Welcome to the Pat Mayo experience,

the players championship picks, bets, preview,

plus a one and done.

Jeff Feinberg, I just saw you in Florida.

How are you?

I am doing great.

Players week, let's go.

Everyone is excited who's going to win the players.

What is like Donna Kelsey's backsplash

and her kitchen going to look like?

These are the important questions.

Listen, if TMZ's getting clicks out of it,

you know that they're going to put it up.

You told me you got some great CLV on people so far

who did you get over the weekend?

Oh, so while we were in Florida, Pat,

like I was just sending the carrier pigeon signals out

to get some of that Ludwig 45 that was sitting there.

And then on the weekend,

I hit some Cam 50 over at Phillip Rivers,

some Minwoo 80 at Phillip Rivers.

And then for a while, I'd mentioned,

I don't even remember what he won now.

Oh, was it when Bridgman won?

I grabbed some 150 of him.

I don't even know why,

but I thought that would be a great number.

I don't even care to have that bet.

But yes, I got four bets already,

but if it's a major week,

like my exposure is going to go up 10 fold.

Well, this isn't a major.

That's being told.

Now the last one,

like, is this going to be the worst ever players to win?

Oh, I don't know about that.

Well, we'll see.

I wrote it up in the column.

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But we are treating this like a major show,

despite the fact that it is not a major,

which means we need a very special guest

to tell us who he thinks is going to win.

So joining me in studio is the Ayatola

of driving a Corolla.

Timmant August.

Timmant August.

Timmant August.

It's not my name.

I'm sorry.

I thought I was here to talk about David Montgomery

being traded to the Texans.

Oh my notes are useless now.

Football's out soon.

Football soon.

Oh dear.

OK.

I've known for people who enjoy Jeff Tim and I

is that we have banked a show.

There's also a show with Yumi and Gary.

And that will be released when my baby is born, which is soon.

And we'll do the cut sweatshow this week if the baby isn't born yet.

And maybe even if the baby is born, maybe we can sneak out

for three hours to watch the swag to watch the player.

Well, Jeff, I had my run of baby swag on the go.

I thought Chandler Blanche was going to get

across the line for me in Puerto Rico.

He because he hit first round leader at 70 to one.

He clinched his top three at 28 to one.

The 140 to one win would have been nice.

Oh, I was rooting for you.

I didn't have anything going on there.

But I was enjoying watching.

I was enjoying flipping back and forth.

Without a rarely without a bet would I flip back and forth.

But I was captivated by a lot of the names on the leaderboard.

Like it wasn't the Josh Teeters of the like PGA orbit.

It wasn't like sort of the mule class battling it out.

It was all these up and comers.

So I really enjoyed watching that.

Yeah, there were five.

I looked at the leaderboard at one point.

It was five young guns and John Perry, who was there.

He was like a 37 year old British journeyman who are my entire

betting card out of young guns.

And none of them happened to be there.

Well, I said last week if Ricky Castillo ended up winning,

I would honor him calling him Ricky Castillo and then he won.

It'd be my guy.

So in my face, as you mentioned, it's a kind of like Brett farm.

If this is the way he says it, I guess this is what we're going with.

Did you have ROM?

No, I had Burmister who was winning after 36 holes.

Everyone else was minus 14 on the weekend.

He was one under.

I mean, there's no credit to take, but yeah, it was the only bet.

I had no live action.

So I didn't even capitalize on one.

I couldn't even find ROM 4 to 1.

And that was sort of where it would have been worth it for me.

And then when we were on the plane, the best I could access was like 290.

So I was like, no.

Little one.

It went on.

Listen, yeah, 4 to 1 bet is a 4 to 1 bet.

It's better than a zero bet, which is what I got from live.

Because my guys, two weeks in a row, Burmister is failed to show up on the weekend.

He was the 36 hole leader in South Africa two weeks ago too.

Stupid me.

You must have liked that King of Kong.

Documentary?

You must have heard that Calaway drop last night, Tim.

I didn't see it.

I did not see it.

John Rom.

Hong Kong.

King of Kong.

Oh, there's only one King of Kong and that's fucking Billy Mitchell, okay?

You ask.

Hey.

Dr. Kong Kielstring coming out, guys, love Billy Mitchell.

So you're here.

Give us some picks.

Who's not going to?

Who do you think is going to win the player's championship?

Well, you get to make three picks at major or major adjacent events.

That mean you get to take eight for this one?

Yeah.

So I'm making three picks.

My third pick, bronze medal is Corey Connors.

He's well at this course historically, he doesn't win.

But he played well.

You watch the research show?

No.

I didn't have time this weekend.

We'll get into wide.

My whole weekend was messed up.

At least my whole Sunday was messed up.

All right.

Time change.

Time change.

Uh, my second pick is Habstrakah.

Oh, no.

That's one of my, it's the only bet I have in so far.

And my winner is Justin Rose.

So you, you sure you didn't watch the research show?

No.

What I remember you telling me was to go look at the Memphis tournament and whoever

do well in Memphis does well here.

So I just looked at Memphis and I said, well, Rose won that.

He did win this year.

So it was not like he's been like a loser.

He's won this year.

He was on the president's, a Ryder Cup team.

And he almost won the Masters.

So those are my three picks.

Why do I tell you anything?

I wanted to bet Justin Rose.

Well, you can.

I don't know if I can.

I hit winners several times at this event.

So that is untrue.

I've hit several winners at this event.

Please, please, please.

I know.

He's going for it right away.

So I hit McElroy in 2019.

McElroy in 2019.

That's your first ever big game hunt.

And you could contend that I got it the right the next year, too.

I mean, the year that the tournament didn't take place.

Well, I finished the first round.

Well, four people didn't finish.

Well, the first round was incomplete in your declaring.

Four people didn't finish.

You know, if you actually picked guys to win on a regular basis, then you wouldn't

have to take credit for an incomplete one round victory.

It was essentially a complete win.

What was it?

Four people didn't finish.

Four people didn't finish.

I know.

Hold on.

And the best score who didn't finish was one under.

He had holes in one on 18.

And they still wouldn't have caught him.

This is your worst gambling, gambling, adjacent take that you've never had on a really

end.

Oh, no, it's far.

I think it's like, it's really.

No, it's not.

You've made predictions.

But like this one in terms of like sort of a bet or a pool, it is your worst.

Okay.

It is your worst take in that genre in the history of this show.

All right.

Okay.

When you say several winners, is that mean two?

Yes.

Gotcha.

You had Wyndham Clark and Rory McElroy.

That's a very liberal use of the word several, I would say.

People forget I'm the big game hunter.

Are you?

Yes.

And it's going to be a laugh at any of his picks.

They seem like very fine picks.

But I mean, good.

You're Kim is calling for it to go down the board this week.

So I that's good.

Can you go with JJ Spawn?

He came second.

I already picked JJ Spawn this to here and he was terrible.

Yeah, but just isn't a run and done.

Speaking of the one and done.

Okay.

So I took because you people have been bullying me.

Well, let me.

I didn't bully you.

I didn't bully you.

Maybe Rory.

He's not soon.

It wasn't a great win.

We didn't bully you.

Just laugh at the era.

So after weeks of me taking who I thought was going to win, I finally take your bullying

advice to take it a lead player.

And what happens is Rory, it's exactly like people who remember the football show.

I had a free money parlay like 10 years ago.

And what a one.

But I got bullied into adding another team to it.

You didn't get bullied.

You didn't get bullied.

You didn't get bullied.

You said I'm being bullied now.

When you asked what the line should be in a Jets bucks game, you said it was a buy-week

before a buy-week.

I know what I said.

That is how much the Jets are going to win.

Hold on.

So we said, maybe you should put them on your stupid free money teaser.

You're like, okay, you bullied me into it and then they lost.

Maybe you shouldn't say that it was a buy-week before a buy-week.

You said they were going to get shut out.

Like you said that multiple times.

So then we just figured, why would you not put that game on your free money tickets?

Why aren't you picking all the best golfers in the one and done?

You should be picking elite guys.

It's an elevated event.

I mean, I bullied you for how to tune in, but I did laugh at you for picking them in

a signature event.

I'm going to done better than picking Rory.

I've already got some money.

He was true.

Did he get anything?

Yeah.

Like the amount of the last place I bullied you know what?

I'm going to confirm that.

I should go see if that's actually true or not because the guy believe that is true.

Okay.

I believe that is true.

Okay.

So that's good news.

Great.

The guy who's in first place in the thousand dollar one had done, uh, no, he didn't get

money for it.

Okay.

Okay.

That that should get updated.

I think.

But I don't know.

Rory.

If there's a new rule on that, I feel like back in the day, you you did get, but um,

now it's like second time ever, Rory, just a second time, never Tim that Rory withdrew

in a tournament.

Yeah.

The last one when I think was in 2013 at the Honda Classic.

So good for you for you.

You really put the stink on Rory and now you've thrown the entire odds board.

Yeah.

I don't think you'll play this week.

I think he, if he does, I don't know if he'll finish this week.

It was just a second.

He was.

Where are you base?

What are you basing that off of?

He withdrew his back was so, he had a chance, but maybe he withdrew because of this

like, I think he had a real chance to win yesterday, he had a real chance to win the

API.

We're, we're all guessing because as I read Pat's newsletter, we don't know.

We don't get good at golf injury information, maybe with a player like Rory, there's a chance

to get better injury information, but there's nothing that they have to can get fined on

or anything like that where they have to be transparent.

And I think it's just a guess.

My guess is he just was extra precautionary and he will play and he won't withdraw, but

that doesn't mean I want to bet on him.

And his back spasms are no different than the back spasms I had with you last year that

went away in like three days.

Yeah.

Back spasms are something that just, unless you have like serious, critical back problems,

they don't persist for weeks.

Just wouldn't want to say incredible shape.

Like he is in.

That's Jeff.

Reddable shape.

So you would think if it's a spasm like Pat, like it's not going to persist too long.

And he does have access to the best medical team.

I want nothing to do with him this week or Smotherman who I was going to pick this week

is one of my three.

So he also, so you two, so the guy that you picked last week withdrew and the guy that

you were going to pick this, when did you first hear of Austin's mother?

He played a couple of weeks ago, I was like, Oh, Smotherman, I'm on board.

I really do like his Satune.

He's becoming one of my guys.

Why didn't you pick him?

Because he drinks water.

I just think he's going to be a part of the president's cup champion team this year.

I really like what he, what I've seen for him is, you can say, I think the international

team are going to win the president's cup.

Why?

I just, I think they're due.

I think they've actually got some good players and I think the US team is still a little

bit of turmoil.

Give me the president's cups.

Five best players, international best five players.

Okay.

Well, I would say it's Matt Siyama.

I would say that it is probably still out of Scott.

Oh my God.

Okay.

So this team stacked is what you're telling me.

The second best player is Adam Scott in 45 years old.

I see who Kim.

Okay.

See who Kim.

Sungjae probably is on that team still.

Sungjae just played a tournament after coming.

He and Justin Thomas both returned from injury and were terrible hot geaters got a case

to be on that team.

So you're bet your fourth best player is now pot geater on this team.

Tune is going to be on that team.

Okay.

So there's your four conners is going to be on that team.

This team is hot.

So Pendrath is probably going to be on that team.

This team is horrible.

This team is going to get dog walked when the US team is in turmoil.

It.

Okay.

So we just went down the list turmoil where we're at on your list like Zander is that

level of like when you say Pendrath Zander is like the US equivalent right now, like

do you think they're like Penn State were just because they lose a tough game then they're

going to go use lose this 30 point favorites to UCLA like I don't understand.

Okay.

Well, I understand you.

I remember we talked about this in Montreal that you said the president's cup is a large

appliance wager for you.

So go ahead and do that.

The odds are actually bigger this year than most, but I have said before sometimes it's

like 280.

It's like near the end of July minus 280.

I mean 300 and I look at that and I'm like, I don't know.

Like I can like put the money down now and get a free washer dryer in two months.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's minus 400 this time.

I'm having my queers captain.

Big plus.

Yes.

That I will agree with you on.

It's ogle.

Who is it again?

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

Jeff Ogle.

That was a good experience.

I had a feeling, I got a hunch telling it.

So, the credits mine happens.

Is he talking into the microphone enough.

There it just went a bet.

He keeps leaning back.

I know he shouldn't be doing that.

I apologize.

If you're out of the, out of the rhythm I know about I'm out of every week.

I'm out of practice.

So Rose, Straccup and Corey Connors for you.

What drew you to 17 streka?

I'd like to know.

Love DC.

He does love DC, that's true.

That's exact me he was on the president's cup team.

I really liked Student.

He was not on the president's cup team.

The writer cup team.

Okay.

I just like Substrakka so I was I need been playing decent golf looking at guys were playing decent golf

Who I think have a chance to either have one a major or might win a major this year and

The Conner's is just like a heartbeck. He plays well at this tournament. You're on year despite never having a chance to win

So like feel like if you could bet him top eight that'd be great because he's got a great top eight written all over him

He was he was T sexy like he loves coming T6 at this turn up. There you go

So him struck a and wrote rose is the most underrated play. I know he hasn't played great since he won

He's like the most underrated golfer out there a lot of ways. It's not that he's underrated

I think people the people seem to forget he almost won the master's I think people properly rate just and rose is that he's only good

Once every two months. Okay, that's been two months

He's one of the most underrated if in only unless you're saying how we rate him is disrespectful because I would argue

No one

Like outside of Rory has done more for their legacy in the last

Year year and a half than Justin Rose

I don't know if that's true. That's true for people like you who've who despised Justin Rose who no longer

The whole like the whole parlay hold on the whole the whole

Pupari of like all of his friends went to live

He stayed in the he stayed in the fire. He battled

He picked himself out of it. How we performed last year in the playoffs with the writer cup stuff

And then to get the win this year even people who had such a high affinity for Justin Rose

Like he took it. He like leveled up

He leveled up and for a player with his credentials and have already won a major championship

It's actually so hard for a player like that to level up without like winning enough

Their major well, he won the Olympic gold medal. That's kind of a major. Yeah, but that didn't seem like that that it seems more like that now

Because the Olympic golf has become a bit more prestigious old Tom Morris of the Olympic gold medals

Well, yeah, no one went to Brazil because of the Zika because the Zika virus and done it like all the very top like culture was on the American

T. Yes, he was so I know it's like the lightning rod now because they have an agenda

But to me the players and the Olympic gold are kind of like weren't the same. I would agree with that

I think that's the perfect the notch below the major and this is what I wrote about in the column

I discussed it a bit on the research show too is that since the move to March

I've actually enjoyed the players a lot more because I felt like until recently when Brando was back on the it's the fifth major thing

If you look they've gotten away from that a lot that it's been positioned as the PGA tours most prestigious event

Which it is and it happens before all the majors

So it gives you a good sense of what the majors are kind of gonna be like

I didn't like when I was squeezed in between majors because it gave it this sort of faux prestige

That is best reserved for the PGA championship than anything else like

If you're below the PGA championship in the pantheon of majors, you're not a major. No, but if it really is going to be the kickoff event next year

Is that true is that true? No, we don't we don't we don't know let's let's not spec you know if it's a kickoff event

That's still like it's this great event. We all acknowledge its incredible place as like the fifth most important tournament

Why does making it the kickoff event make it a major?

I don't think it would make it a major

But I think it would give it more prestige if it was the first I think so too like because the Daytona 500s first

Sure is that like hey, we're starting the season. Everyone's here. This means it on's the biggest person here

That would make sense to me it would shame on like it the shame on them to like use any NASCAR talking points

When I've made fun of their FedEx cup playoffs having two trophies

When like NASCAR

You know afraid to have two winners and their last race of the year when NASCAR's fans who you know, I would say just like a random polling would say not as

Smart as golf fans

But that's debatable. I guess

Can can handle two leaderboards with two different concepts with golf fans. Oh my god

They'll be confused packed

You notice how we waited till you left Florida to start you know berating stock car racing

I like NASCAR. I'm the one out of all of us. I got three NASCAR t-shirts

I'm sure the collection of yours is a total of zero

Ha, you think that's true. It is not true. It is not true. We'll get into it

But it's not

Tim used to be a big despite being afraid to drive Tim big NASCAR. I used to watch a lot of NASCAR when I was younger

In fact when they changed the points formula in like 2004 to 2005

That's kind of when I got out of NASCAR because I hated the whole race for the chase playoff thing

I enjoyed when the Winston Cup was just whoever won the most points actually won

Oh really? I thought the Winston Cup champion was who could smoke the most sigs will going around the track

Jeff Gordon didn't keep that youthful look by smoking marbles. Let's say that. You would have anti Jeff Gordon

No, I was not anti Jeff Gordon. I was not. I was anti Dale Dale Earnhardt

Which is the controversial. I was never a fan of like everyone was like oh big about oh, he's like the intimidator

Or the intimidator looks like he enjoyed himself a two-packs today

I never cheered for him

But I also didn't cheer for any of the Chevrolet drivers. I didn't like hate Jeff Gordon

But I didn't like Jeff Gordon Jeff Gordon's California guy right to cheer for Dale Jared. He has to race the UPS

Where is Okshay? Where was he born? Was a California? Is he from the East Coast? I'm not sure pretty sure it's California, right?

I always say this because in his post-round interview he had like the most valley guy accent of all time

So I didn't quite know what he sounded like and then he's real nervous

I was like wow he does sound like he's from Beverly Hills. Yeah, like he's he just I was I did didn't know when he was gonna sound like

He lives in North Carolina now

Yeah, he's from California. So that makes totally like he says that he's like oh yeah, I like it

It was a great shot and he's kind of sounds like Malibu from American Gladiators

Just hang him with some cosmic rays. I do like a lefty. I do like seeing a lefty win

So you're gonna pick him at the Masters this we know

I'm not certain that I will you don't think that he can make every chip and every putt had Augusta to win

Probably not and probably won't have burger decide to like not really compete the last few holes

So I thought this was interesting. I mean

The up and down was actually great. I think he made the right choice laying up on 18

He lost he got beat. I don't know that. He lost, but he got

Yeah, I thought he shifted down a gear. He didn't but like more Kawa last year

You could sense even through the front like he hit a neutral spell

And then he got beat he just got beat the up and down like to pass credit that bogey was an amazing bogey and that was his boge like

You know the playout 18 got him in the on the end of the Saturday round

It got him pretty much you couldn't execute it at all yesterday, but

Like more Kawa he got beat like that's how I felt it didn't feel like Lowry

But you felt like man. No, it was a tough. It wasn't like Lowry

But I just felt like it was a lot like when Rory lost to cam smith at the open championship

It's just it felt like he got out by so much that he's like you know what I'm gonna do

I'm gonna hit it to 40 feet every single time. I'm not gonna put my statement on the broadcast and August was giving him so much credit

All he's gonna do is hit for all from the hit it 40 feet from the whole two putt

You're gonna walk away with this because he was going wire to wire. I don't know if you knew that I heard that

5,000 times yesterday

It's like at least hit like a 54 forter on 12 or 11 is like oh man

Well, he chipped in and then he made the huge jump in was fantastic

It was oh listen, it'd be I could it's it's a lot of luck when it comes down to chip in on the 72nd

I thought I thought it was I thought it was a very make a chip till

Either way, it's like that stuff and he went three wood off the tee on the 72nd hole

Which was surprising because he went right to the big wood then on the playoff hole

There was weird that he played that hole very differently both times back to back well

They did say them when they got to the 72nd hole 18th tee that a big like huge gust of wind came in

So you'd probably want to keep the ball history would was still 5,000 feet higher than burgers drive

We'd say like me burger hits it like everything a worm burn off the tee that the crop dusters

Yeah, they're like well problem with that drive is he's 215 yards away from the hole

Like what do you mean? It's the last hole of the tournament. How is he that far away?

Like that 18th hole was almost as bad as Tommy Fleetwood's 18th at okay

No, because he made it incredible up and down to get the playoff though too

And it was a great camera work from NBC to have that whole conversation with the caddy

But here's what you need to do and like burger had decided here's what I'm doing

And like the caddy was being overruled and it was like a great conversation

He's like put it in the bunker and then put it on the green

And it was and they made that 13 footer. I was certainly was gonna miss it and their buddies

They played practice rounds together and apparently, you know, they

They play often I felt bad for burger kind of wanted them to

Well, I hadn't wanted forever. I think he's one of my like back end guys

We've always been soft spots for burger on this channel. Oh for sure

And my favorite player ends up beating him despite the fact that I had did not bet him. I love oxie

I love to see oxie win and as and I think it was Sam who pointed out or Tyler who pointed out that like it

It's been leveling up. He won an alt event then he won like a mid-tier at Valero now. He wins the API

Big things are coming for oxie. Yeah, and he's five years younger than more a cow. He's younger than the boy guards

He's 23 years old Shinnecock Hills is calling. Oh, I don't know about that

He doesn't have enough distance for there as you saw

No, he doesn't, but he's a shotmaker

Well, that that really came down to it burger tried not to lose that tournament

Oxie tried to win that tournament. However

He got incredibly lucky and he hit the shot of his life on 16 when it just got over the water

And when it went to two feet and tapped in for eagle

That was fantastic

But now on even on the 72nd hole

I it felt like he got a bit unlucky that it didn't fly further

He's shot on Saturday. We're just cleared the water. He was like

Like all the luck ran Oxie's way. I think if burger plays like that

Nine times out of ten in that final round. He wins. Let's you get up by five. We probably should win that lady

You probably should win you're up five. He was up for it. Listen, I

I don't know if he was at four or four on the bed. I had pat because I had bet. I mean, I took an L

I bit burger. I didn't bet the event

But on Sunday morning I bit burger over Oxie. I was like Oxie's driving it all over the map

At some point all of it's not going to add up and then you got the whole bag like the incredible par saves

The like three seven eight footers on the first three holes to save bars

And then all the great pester out, but you know, I'm counting my money

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I was struck and hoagie so all the guys that like you would on paper like coming into the players did things that like in my mind

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Kitting all your approaches to like 10 feet and making half the pots

That's how you win usually by the only guy who didn't do that in the past

15 years to win the players was web Simpson who made every pot and every chip and that was a may if it was may then too

So I think the a lot of those previous to March once you can kind of throw out I tend to agree that was the case that I made of course

Please so much differently two months later, right? Well, I mean, it's not pure brimita grass greens

It's Poetry Palace if that's a big thing

So it's more like Phoenix and the American Express maybe better than it would be two months later like I just

Yes, it's the same course, but no, it's not and it's colder too. It's like saying that pebble in February

It's the same as pebble at the usl. No, it's not

It is but it isn't it's funny because obviously it plays harder with the usga setup when it's more burnt out

If they set it up like that in February, it would be so hard of course it would because of the moisture in the left

Yeah, you just want to be able to get it out of the road. No, it would be like oh

Or oh, sorry, not Oakdale. No, not Oakdale. Oakdale got you pretty good though. Oh, yeah, of course. It's a good course

How is it you played aeronomic this weekend? I played aeronomic on the the track man Sims. Oh boy

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But you want to ask about tg. I have so many questions about the trip

Maybe we should take it chronologically

So

What's it like to hit off of the actual stuff there? What does it feel like they didn't give us the grass the day that we were there

Okay, because they only had so much grass left granted for the rest of the playoffs

It's like hitting off of a regular track man simulator

We talked about this at the sim and I think you were right up at the sim

If you at TGL got a hole in one I would count that

Yes, I would have counted that as a as a hole in one for your life. Yes, I think that

Jeff I think Tom Kim's ace counts as a real ace

I think if I think if I had put it in during what I was hitting off of it, it would not have counted

If you're just like mucking around hitting like a rack of balls it wouldn't count

If you were actually like playing yes, like you're playing a course

Maybe that's a different thing

I'm still tempted to say like it doesn't count but if Tiger Woods tells you it counts

Then I guess you get to count it

Did you drink one of Tom Kim's beers two two? Oh boy. I wasn't in the building for that. No, you were gone

So so now Jeff described to me the green room at TGL, but it wasn't detailed

So there was like a clear he said pasta with chicken. Can you put some meat on the bones?

Pat I told Pat Tim has been bothering me about the exact

Specifications of the pasta for like a day and a half

I went to some fucking Italian place and brought in like a I want to hear about it

Do you know what chicken my style is something? It's like there's chicken and then there's like a pasta

But it's like I don't want to call it a cool

I don't know. It's not like a red sauce or a white sauce. It's just like a clear sauce like get over it

Confused just fucking Italian food. They like mass produced Italian food. They brought in. This is why I didn't ask you

Well, I knew what kind of answers you would give me so I'm asking Jeff

I don't know it was like a linguine noodle with like a clear sauce that I believe paired with the chicken and I cannot believe

I knew you'd ask about the food, but I did not know you'd still be looking for the specifics on the past

I've been thinking about it all week. Why it just I have been I've been thinking about it

I just they gave us Chick-fil-A the next day. I saw that Jeff sent me a tweet of that that looked awesome

That was good now. I want to listen. It's a first-class operation. I bet it. I bet it is tell me about the restaurant you went to

They bought us down so we could talk about TGL not where we went afterwards

We're gonna talk about are we because we're now at the end of the trip and you said you were going in chronological order

Because I was gonna that was gonna ask you about the DC machines as well

Those sounded all every golf course should have those

No, every golf course should have DC dispensers

You're now confusing people and you're no longer in chronological order

I know how do you want to do it? You're in a different golf course now. Yeah, I know

Okay, why don't you file your thoughts and get them back in order here. Okay. Let's let's talk about the golf first then before we get to the fun stuff

Okay, so tell me more about the experience of

So I played the Sims have been in many I've done the sim several time. How is it different from being in a sim?

Like what's the experience? How is the experience like monumentally different than really good cracker?

So your ball like gets flight, but literally I'll say this

After like a handful of shot like it's kind of just like

Feels like you're hitting an a sim again. Yeah, I feel like you're at the range after like after a bit

We we only got to play got to play the range and we got to play the Tom Kim hole that he made the asad if we had like

Just played like 15 holes of all the holes that they have played

It would have been different and more fun than you're like generic sim because you can see the ball flight

Like there's so many cameras there and like their version. I forget what it's called. It's not track man

It's something else. I could just more accurate. Mm-hmm. Then everything does the ground slide based on lies

Not for us, but no, but not for you folks. It didn't okay. That that's coming next year

They they can put a lip on the bunker. They get the same sand at a gust of though. I was gonna say what was like getting at the bunker

It was hard was there lots of sand in the bunker. Yes, there was a lot of sand in the bunker

But the hardest thing Jeff was the chipping area and the green because it's like turf, but it's not turf

It's like okay proprietary. I can understand yeah like I could understand how they could get frustrated because the balls

Like the exact same chips would like sometimes react differently. No, I don't would can put like a spin on it like they could

Um, and then reading the greens like with the TV lights

Or time is not as eat like it but um

Yeah, it's truly like a marvelous some marvelous little facility. They got there. It's all logical overload

Yeah, the puts all roll true you would have really enjoyed the owner's boxes

Sure, I would have that are right next to their right next to where everyone walks out

So they they change them up every time so like Arthur Blank is sitting in one and the Kelsey's were there

When we were there that sounds like a lot of fun was and you got pretty close to the big cat

Oh, yeah, pretty pretty close to tiger. That was good. We're pals now. He was hitting some balls

No, he was hitting some chips and pots couple chips couple pots the place it wasn't even full yet

If he grabbed a stick and actually went to rip on the sim

The the place would have like gone bananas

Okay, but no he was just

Yuck in it up with the Kelsey's and his team. It's funny to watch him almost like clean other people's clubs too

And everyone wants to talk to him of course, of course

Everyone who's in that bill like the Kelsey's are like hey tiger as a go

Tiger tiger really doesn't seem like he wants to talk to anyone which is hilarious

But he's got a got to yeah, where he's like part owner

He doesn't mean like sort of yeah, I'll blinds you want to make it like the most viral moment and get people's attention on TGL

He would pick up a seven iron hit a ball

I think he's gonna play in the masters. He looked great

I've had this is the best tiger like in shape has looked in a decade

I would think of playing like the TGL finals if they made it because that would almost be in a good

In a spot where like if you're playing the masters

Probably playing this thing. I would guess that if he was going to play anything before the masters

It probably would be the TGL playoffs. Okay, and there's some

There's no way he'll like debut on the champions tour before the masters for a scheduling worker

I don't think so. Why wouldn't he just I mean if he's getting himself actually prep

It's not like that year that Phil went and played the champion store because he was still playing on the pee and he wasn't hurt

No, he wasn't coming back. He was coming back from me. I'm like kind of shitty. There's also a major too, right?

Wasn't I they didn't feel play champions major was just a regular champions. He was just a regular event

Yeah, but I think he ended up playing I don't know he never played any of the champions made that I remember

I think Tiger would be better suited playing the week before like Valero to get at least PGA tour style distance

Rough rather than go play on the champions tour if you're going to go play a gust of the next time

He's only got so many bullets to fire. I think it would be smarter to play TGL

But TGL makes them that's why I say TGL makes the most sense. He's a few shots

That's what I would do if I were him

I will say like after like what Ludwig wind him and Min Wu lost they were up like three with three to go or something

They had looked like they had seen a ghost

Like in the like not to say they actually cared but they looked like they

They just like deer and headlights look in the press room after

And the obviously tiger with max and and kids and and Tom Kim

it was like

They were so happy they to stay in there like yucking it up for like an extra 10 minutes

It cost a hundred thousand dollars to rent that place

I think there should be one in like every city

It would be so cool to have a re like like any like Toronto should have one

Montreal should have New York City should have you think this is getting rented out for a hundred grand a day

For the same money they build the facility with like 40 bays instead of like one bay because that's it

There's only one

You can't have like multiple groups in there at the same time. So like Pat said

It's only like you have to be like Josh Allen to be able to rent it out for your bachelor party or something

That's one person there's lots of people in major cities who have copious amounts of money who would rent this out

No, they would disagree highly disagree

Maybe like a corporate thing and whatever but there's no

I don't I once you've paid there's no listen it is super cool

I don't think you would pay to do it twice

If they somehow got you to pay to do it the first time and the biggest thing the thing that they undersell is the amount of tech

That's in there because it's actually it's like a the highest state of the art TV production studio is really what it is with the amount of cameras the amount of lights

The amount of laser yeah, I believe it is like it's almost like what an American Gladiators like studio would have looked like but

30 million times more expensive is it super dark in there? It seems like it's dark

So many lights are off but there's no TV show. Yeah, it's a TV studio

So there's I mean think about how bright this room gets when all of the lights are on how like pitch black

Yeah, when there's nothing on so it's very much the same thing

It's almost overlit in a sense to make sure I will say in Jeff point at the set

Can credit me for hitting his great shot in the closest to the pin contest because just before I had trouble to

You know these my own troubles

But I let Pat know I think he was hitting a ladies club. I was there was two sets of clubs and he put it two feet to the pin

I there was two sets of calories there and I picked one off and I was like all right

Comes like pretty light. I just started shanking everything. I was like. Oh, no

It's like I'm gonna get my one shot and Jeff's like I think you have a ladies club in your hand

It's like it is really light and flexible. There you go. So I went and got the the men's club. Boom. It's Chris is a great shot

Yeah, no the stat like Tim. It's an incredible operation

And you only asked about the pasta but there was great pizza. I want to ask about probably not the size of baseballs that were delicious

Um

I want to ask you about your golf stick and then you know as I showed you before the uh, they had world cup insignia

Coke zero and that's how you know

So fresh because I aren't even out here yet. So you know those are like coming off of the assembly line in Orlando yesterday

Jeff Jeff made this point while we were there that there is no better ROI because sometimes like if you hire

Someone to come like hang with you for the weekend like the MTV influencers used to do this a lot like you pay

The situation 10 grand to show up for your bar for a night

And he would show up and try to get people in the door and like yes

This is what they do for a living really is what influencers do too. I don't quite understand

I thought influencers were just like we're online and like hawked product

Well, they had to go to places to hawk the products like there is

Maybe that's another point. There's a lot of like other influencer like golf influencers there good to sign up

Okay, I know the type you're talking about so the golf I was talking to someone who worked at TGL who was like a collegiate golfer

Okay, and like I was watching these influencers. They're all fucking terrible like they're really bad at golf

And they said the same thing for me to be bad at golf because I'm just giving golf picks

But these people try to hawk like gear and whips. They're essentially mellows. Yeah

If we got you a brand new good to there was like one or two guys who could really rip it most of the people there

Jeff were really bad. Yeah, if you're gonna be a golf influencer

You better not be like a 14 handicap but the thing is golf is like a lifestyle

You don't have to be like amazing at it. I guess to be

Like injured like it's a lifestyle. I do, but that's not what they're doing though

They're like I watch one person film the same shot maybe 60 times and they finally got one

They're just bleeding it everywhere every time I was like the fuck is this

That would annoy me so it was pretty and just like I couldn't go ahead of shot because they had to keep filming

It's like to calm the fuck down. All right. These are the worst team. Their locker room was incredible too

In what way where the players are hanging tell me about it or not in the studio

Well, it's like a full like kitchenette. Oh, man

And then there's like it's pretty much like like a high-end simulator lounge

Is their locker room because it's got like five or six

semi-bays to like your local sim lounge

And like a full kitchenette and then this room with like all of the

You know, thermar body wraps or relaxing lights

Like it's a first class. Okay operation through and through it. The second time I'd been through there

I'm impressed every single time now tell me about your

No, I didn't get to finish my point yet about the ROI on high like so there's one thing the influencers are there

They obviously paid the Kelsey's a bunch of money to come Jeff. Did you get those kitchen remodeling start free?

No, they aren't but if you hire Jason Kelsey Jeff you get your money's worth. I was

Pat it like being gone for hours this guy

It's I'm not even talking about the TV work. He is doing like

There's like in commercial hyping up the in stadium crowd work

I couldn't believe it now like there's a conversation to be had about like Jason Kelsey

and his overexposure

But when you pay the Jason Kelsey rate

Holy shit. He gives you a hundred and 25% and then after the night as we were making our way out of the building

The Kelsey's I guess we're having to their own little private party with them and their friends in the in the semi session

Well, that that's why we got bumped to the next day. We were supposed to do it

You're holding it like the fucking price is right again. Sorry. You've really been we got we'd had to change

Mike's once already and now you're trying to break this one too. I am also how to practice is very common in press rooms

But everything you like everything. There's like huge

Just like two things of like Halloween candy for you to pick through

Yeah, I would have loved that I took some sour patch kids with me

You got free food. We went back to the hotel. I was extremely jealous about that so to Jeff. Oh

That's so awesome. Nice. They hooked us up because I was

Here's here's a quick tip about Jupiter, Florida and Palm Beach when you go back at like 10 p.m

And you're absolutely starving and like you know when you travel you only eat the worst foods

Yes, and you're like you feel like crap

I was trying all day not to like eat anything really bad because I knew I had to go back and film the next day

I wanted to get the bed

So I open up Uber Eats because I got back at like 1003 in the kitchen closed at 10

I mean, it's a lot of old people in Palm Beach. Of course. This stuff isn't open to really fast food Tim

The fast food in like Palm Beach closes earlier than in other places

Like the lights go off earlier in Palm Beach than most places

But so I open up Uber Eats and I couldn't find a single non-fried piece of food. Oh, I'm done

I was just like he's just give me yeah, I'll take some way at this point, but no, some way was not open

Oh, I could so they were like I couldn't even get a sandwich

And then I walked into my room and they had like jerky and some truffle popcorn

Your phone. I'm gonna send you a picture right now. What was in the room? Oh, well, Pat's I already sent it to him

What he had what he had

So guessing it's the same. It was like a flute of a food. I know. It was really nice

Tell me a top-notch experience. Tell me about your actual golfing event now

It was tough, but they did have like I said soda dispensers like every three four holes Jeff

There was probably like at the at the turns and like one out there

So like multiple fountain pot machines Tim. I have only I've seen this in America at a couple nice clubs

I've never seen it anywhere at home now. Maybe people be like you've never been to the national

I haven't I don't even know if they have them there. I have never seen like felt like where we just have like water tanks

Like just fountain pop. I would guarantee you this doesn't exist outside of America

But why because no one fucking wants us outside except for americans. I don't agree

I don't agree if you lived in that community you would walk up there every single morning

You would go out of your way 20 minutes to walk up there or drive up there fill up multiple things of Diet Coke to bring home with

Well, I know what you're like an initiation fee to be a member at this place

Here's the termination. I'm not talking about his yearly dues

Where it's monthly dues. I'm talking about getting whole on the initiation fee

via Diet Cokes and you told me they

If it's at home, he's gonna walk 15 minutes to like the night to the 10th tea to get to that machine

If Tim is in like the dining area eating his lunch, it's gonna be like I'm not ordering a do see from you

I'm just gonna walk

300 yards and go get a free one like

He would bastardize the shit out of that thing

But for Tim I did you know take a little I filled up little half cup for the road. You know how good was it?

How good was it? Oh

This is what I had to tell Tim and credit

We'll give our guest Adam lots of props

You know and I just you know a lot of beautiful things about the club more impressive than the machine itself

Was the like 10 of 10 flavor profile of the DC you think I'm at some like this isn't make like how

Monitored are these pipes? I don't know well either. I was just getting they had just been refilled

But you think you would not get like 10 of 10

Um like 7 11 fountain flavor profile

Unbelievable

I'm really need to be at every golf course like the flavor profiles needs to be on point

If you're at a I mean if you're at like a really rundown muni, I get nowhere

That's a club that has members that are paying dues need to have these dispensers

Three or four around the course need it. Got to have never a chance on earth. This would show up at my club

Why not members would want?

Really you don't need the members would want it Jeff now they would also it's a good time to write remind people

That if they want to get to picks there are time codes in this episode. We give us a pixel already

And I really don't like Brooks this week. I don't I think Brooks is terrible

If his mother in plays he's got no chance. Rory plays. He's got no chance. If you're going to pick him in his parts

You know, there's like two cup holders per person. He's like need one of your cup holders for his extra DCs

Well, it depends how many stations there were right if you're telling me every three or four holes

I'm going to run into the station

Like when you're when you're

There were four on the one course. We were at we're we have a club where there's the turn and there's a little hot on both the front and back nine

There's no reason why each of the little huts couldn't have a

So to dispenser people would love that you would love it

It wouldn't be that expensive and if you know what if it meant a hundred dollars more year in dues

I'll pay a hundred dollars. Would you now? Yes, I would would you yeah, I would to get unlimited

You know what I would do I would pay a hundred dollars more hell I'd pay a thousand dollars more to kick 50 people out

So there were more t-times. That's where I prefer my money goes to separate point

No, but the money can only there's only so much money to go around

I just prefer to open up the t-sheet rather than have a fucking diet coke machine on hole number four. Oh my god

If this is just like this has to be like the old

You know like the old money. They're just so committed to their diet coke. They wouldn't let this

You know like they'll never lose it and he's like no like young people

I see like no young people fill her up to and it gets me good for booze

a little uh, I guess I guess, but I don't it would be I could not see that flying like I would like if that was brought up

I feel like it like

Whoever does that sort of thing in my club. They're just like laugh and be like next. Yeah, but what does it mean?

I don't think it's awesome. I'm just saying I don't think there would be any sort of like

Man, there would just be no

People to want that unless it was unless instead of DC it was like Verneurs

Then it would have like a like 80%

Fountain at my place would probably put here's you actually just touch on what the main reason would be why you couldn't have this at most places

Because the place where we were at I'd say the average age was I don't know 68

People aren't just getting strung up on the course the entire no, but the moment you said

But he did that Jeff said here you could put it in booze. Jair was like what?

That's all that would have like especially especially in Canada

Like because people go out and get annihilated on the course. This would only encourage that

I don't think would encourage or discourage it or just people really if people you know what it would encourage people not to buy drinks at the course

Because people would bring their own liquor. You're not allowed to bring your own liquor. Oh, I'm

None of you think we do on every single one of our fucking golf trips Tim was last time you bought liquor at the course

I buy liquor at the course that bucket of beers. What was it? So we when we went last year? How many cans of beer did you buy on the course couple?

None you brought you brought up true. Did you bring them with you? I brought that's against the rules. How could anyone do I bought some at the course

Some of the tall boys. You were the only one then

The pro shops sell flasks. So do they like even though there's like no booze like I got my glove like you're not supposed to bring your own booze

They also sell you a flask with their club logo on it. So I think it's like if you want booze

By booze, but he didn't mention that

To past point that because it's free there like anyone at the pool like

The people at the pool like don't want to pay for a drink. They'll just go walk to the free fountain

It's okay

It's a free fountain 20 feet that way who wouldn't I don't I can't imagine what the annual dues are at that place or what the initiation is it probably comes with significant

There's a community around it too. Sometimes you just own a home. I'm sure that you pay like our golf club

Is that like our golf club now?

This is a community built around it. Yes, people bought memberships based on their that's not this is not the same. No, I know I know what so ever

We're Jeff and I were having a struggle on the golf course because really tough time

I don't I kind of like give you a whole bag of excuses, but no, it was just horrible

You know hadn't played in a while, but since this fall, but who cares like I even had a little TGL warmup

Which didn't go great Tim I I I set out there. I think

Feinberg water balls versus

Deterrainian generals like who you got the trading team is reviewing it. It's close

I like it close. It was a disaster

Me and I played with Pat in the like first thing in the morning off a deep night in Vegas

And I left that like wanting to buy the clubs I used and today I couldn't I couldn't hit a pole

so it was

I'm not ready for the season to start, but it's getting warmer and I got to give myself a kick in the ass. I was

He rode with Adam and I drove a cart. Okay, so he wasn't driving although

Jeff it took me a while to get going in the round probably till midway through the back nine to get comfortable

Just with my swing in my clubs, but the moment that happened Jeff

People need to be on alert this year with my driver. Yeah, listen. I say every time I play with Pat. It's like

I've seen it. It's a shame when like

People when it doesn't click in till those late as it clicked in because it's like an air show when you click in early

And I think you're gonna break par one round this year. I hope so. I think that's gonna happen

I don't know when, but I think you're gonna have a 71 in you this year. If I drive the ball like I did the final five

Like I drove a powerful. I was I was carrying it. You got it right to the right to the neck

I think you're gonna break I think you're gonna break par at least once this year. You know what I drove Tim

Pat drove one that impressed me so much

I even forgot to tee off he did

Like a hundred yards behind oh shit. I forgot to play

I forgot to play. I was just drop up where he is just drop up where he is

Yeah, well like you know a little bit of skis in you and like you're just enjoying enjoying conversation

I was putting so much air in the tires of that drive not that it needed any air

That I think we got out there realized that I forgot to hit so that's how impressed I was with that drive so fast

They're so fast really fast. Oh, just I had no

Even by the end I was like I just don't know what they fare like they were trying to false fronts that like no

They were just they were so fast. Well fast is fine if it's true. No, it's but it's

It's not when you're not used to like you've never played on greens this fast is what I would say probably not no

So it's hard when it's the old brinello greens are the first. No, this is a tour fast. They are not PGA tour fast

I mean I played brinello more than you do. It's not it's I even it was nowhere close to this

Okay, and this was not as fast as these ones run a bit. No fair enough

So okay, it's it's an adjustment when you're not used to greens being that fast is what I would say

They just you might blow at 30 feet by okay, and there's a lot like especially with Florida golf that I played over the years

There's so much with the green

Like if the green is dark or the green is soft and like I don't know what the fuck I'm doing out here

Sounds like a lot of fun. It was a ton of fun. So big thanks to Adam before we get to the full players picks breakdown

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Why don't you tell Jeff about your golf ball. Oh, okay, so

All right, I have this idea and it came to me while we were playing sims

I think it's a good idea if they built it would be expensive if you were talking about $20 a ball

I think it would be awesome

If you had a golf ball that had camera inside of it

And was like relatively clear and it hooked up to an app on your phone

And when you hit the ball you could watch from the ball's perspective

Your shot as to where it went on the camera and like the worse you are the more you want it

Because like if you're like me and you hit it way off line

Like I'll know exactly where my golf ball is because I just go to my phone. I click a button

Oh, that's where my ball landed or if it's in the water

Well, at least I know where it is and I want it to be like polyurethane

So it doesn't get waterlogged so I can claim it back at the end of the year

Because we have like a microchip in it so you know what would be mine

Um, I think if the camera was able to shoot through the little dimples of the golf ball and stabilize itself

That you could have a ball

It's a perspective of a golf shot in your ball

And then you just have an application on your phone

And you click the button and you can see from the ball's perspective the trajectory it took it would be

Awesome

So you want like what happy Gilmore hit his neighbors with yeah, you got that camera shot is what you want

I want the ball's perspective

This is is I mean

The simulator kind of gives you all of that information that you're looking for once you're out on the course like what are you doing?

I want to see the balls flight. Why do you want to see the balls? Okay question

And I wouldn't this like ruin the ball like the ball into a ball for like every quarter

Like any way or anything

Distorts

You know the give and take of the of putting something in or out of a golf ball

So I have questions

How does the camera stabilize within the golf ball when you're hitting it at 5,000 rotations a minute?

It's just held in I'm not an engineer

But it's like held inside the ball and because it's relatively clear the camera can just show from any perspective

Depending on its rotations

But how does it do how does it shoot out of the golf ball? I mean how does it shoot out? Well golf balls are

If you know what you go up when you hit it first there's like a camera. Yes

Yeah

Well, this is this camera on the outside of the golf ball

No, it's on the inside. How does it shoot out so you can see any of the golf balls clear?

How do you hit this golf and you can have you ever seen the inside of a golf ball?

Yeah, it's got like that dark core. Yeah, do you know how it goes far is the core of the fucking golf ball

This could be made out of the same stuff as the core the camera

It could just be a little tiny camera and it's made out of the same similar stuff the core is made up

It's not a very big we're not talking about one of those old tiny cameras a little tiny camera

That goes right in the middle. You think that this is going to cost $20 about

A micro size has to be high definition. It can be regular definition

That's not the issue that I'm talking about

Like you don't even understand it in the quality of the the lens on the camera is not so much my issue

It's the miniaturization of this apparently stabilized camera in the middle of a golf ball

And it's also so it's a camera that's this big. Yeah, it shoots from every perspective

Yes, and it keeps and it like it has so many frames per second that like every revolution it takes a shot

So it look, you know like if you ever did one of those sketchbooks

Because then you could see there's trajectory of your ball from the ball's perspective

And if you lost your ball, you know exactly where it landed because and I hate losing golf ball

Then why is it need to be a camera? Why can't you just have some sort of micro chip in the ball?

No, I want a camera so I can see exactly where it went

And then so you think you're savvy enough

I think I always think oh that's a good drive you must to hit a a yardage marker

And that's why I bounce that way

Well, you know how I could prove I didn't because I have a camera in the ball is not only that but that's one of the reason

Oh

I hit a really good drive once and it went past a friend of ours and he said

Oh, well, that's just because you hit a stone yardage marker in the middle of the fairway

That's why I went so far and it didn't hit that okay, and like I

This would give me proof that that didn't happen because I could go to the camera and say look that hit grass

Pal I just owed drove you sorry. You used your three would

I

So you would buy a five thousand dollar golf ball

Invent a five thousand dollar golf ball one of the myriad of uses it would be for

Okay, here's the other biggest issue with this because there are golf balls with cameras inside them already

That doesn't surprise me they're used to get the impact of usually a driver or the club face

From the inside of the ball so they can see where you're hitting the ball. Yeah, it's good idea

You know what happens to them after two hits they break well then you need more of them these need to be made a better quality

So they're we're gonna increase the price of these now

So we're gonna have five five figure to six figure golf ball. No, it's not gonna have to be that expensive

Why doesn't it have to be that at your developing technology that doesn't exist for you just said it does exist

Not for your purposes because it doesn't shoot outside the fucking dimples. It can shoot out if it's clear

Why this golf ball isn't gonna go anywhere

If you take away its core and put something in it, it doesn't go off

I honestly leave it to the engineers to figure that out. Well, I can tell you this

I'm not an engineer although we do know engineers so we can ask their perspective on this too

When you remove the core that makes the ball go super far with a camera. It's not gonna go super far

Okay, here we go. Why doesn't each course just have

Staff members at each hole operating drones that take footage

No, I don't like that. I don't like the idea of other people watching me hit. Oh, what if I what if I

But what if your shots get hacked and the whole world can see your shitty ball fly what question for you

You're holding the mic again that way

What if I told you the dolphins reside and make a Fitzpatrick to a three-year 40 million dollar deal

I'd say fantastic

What if I said he got traded to the jets and the jets signed up to that deal

Be very unhappy. Well, that's what happened. Oh my god

I

I mean the thing about mink of the Patrick is that he is a first round. Oh, wow

That was good all the sudden. No, that was a quick 180, but look, you know, we have a lot of money

We have like the third highest gammada cap in the NFL

And so we're not gonna spend it all

And we have desperate needs at at secondary

And

Like, you know, like he has been a good player in the past and maybe

Since we have a head coach who's super power is calling plays. Maybe he could I don't know

I guess it could work

What you're holding the mic by the court again. Oh, not

You're holding it the that thing at the bottom is not a part of the microphone

Yeah, the microphone part is the part you're supposed to hold you're getting you just went back to do

Again, you can hit the time codes to jump to the golf. I promise it's coming

I'm sorry. I can't believe it was by now. I pat I actually who did I see do that exact same technique

I saw Bill mar ask Adam Schiff a question about a quote he insulted it then Bill mar was like oh, that was an Obama quote quote

I got you

Well, I knew if I told him that the jets traded for him inside of it would be all your

I know I'm sorry. I'm sorry

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Okay, we're back, but before we get to the players picks tell Jeff your idea that you just had during our break

Well, it's just another golf ball centric idea

Would be like Jeff remembers this the guys the younger guys don't quite remember this

Do you remember when Fox had hockey and the puck would glow?

I want that back

So I thought it would be cool for for golf if there was some way and I don't know how you would do it

If it could like if your ball could emit a glow

And then when you hit it, it'd be easier to pick it up because it would be glowing blue

Just play one of those orange yellow balls then they make the rainbow

Callaway makes the rabbit sometimes that can be hard to pick up in the air

What cost wants is shot tracer, but for real life. Yeah, it would be cool if like in you

I liked yesterday on the broadcast like when people hit drives

Oh, it went green if it was going to the fairway or went red if it was going offline if you could like

I know you wouldn't be able to do that that particular thing because you have to you the balls can't know a course

You're all right your phone knows GPS-wise, so maybe your ball basically just want to live in the matrix

But it would be really cool if when you hit your golf ball like there was like a light streak that would like be emitted from it

So that you know I just paid two thousand for a dozen balls with cameras in them

And now you're telling me I need a new one

Well, you could maybe put this in there as well. I don't know like I

Aren't your your ideas are there for a world that you want not that the world that you're in?

Yeah, the cameras he talked about inside these golf balls are what

Like R&D American military research is doing for drones

He's cost a lot of money

Well, but the more you produce them the less expensive it gets

You know

Flare coming from your golf ball. It'd be cool if you could like hit your ball and like you emitted like a glow

Sort like in a video game

It's just I think that would be convenient. I liked it for hockey. So I got like it

Yeah, you know you know what happened in real life when they were playing hockey those streaks didn't exist

No, I know that do you yeah, cuz it seems like

I do know that because they which have this connect here if you know that then there's a disconnect here

But it would be cool if you could make that real

I think it would be helpful people would like that. I have a hard time watching hockey that puck just I could I'm older

Now the eyes are worse. I'd appreciate a little trail. I'm not kitten. Yeah

There's a good idea

Player's championship

We're here we're at sawgrass you hate sawgrass

I don't like the course if it was to become a major or the concession would have to be that it can't always be played at a got that

Yeah, who wants to tell them Pat? It has to be played at other courses not just sawgrass

They put a lot of money into I appreciate that this could be an anchor course for it

But it can't be the only place that's played the best part about sawgrass now is that they have rigged it up

That is easily the best TV experience in any golf tournament. No, but it's not really a golf course

Explain that place like it's a gimmick. It's a gimmick. It's a gimmick what you take gimmick course

It is a gimmick course everything right down to the seven target golf stadium golf like why because

All stadium course are gimmicks. Why I don't like pti courses to begin with because they're kind of goofy

And like this one is like the goofiest imaginable with an island green and with water here and like sand here

And it's the way it's like the holes are weird. I just I don't particularly like

You said water here sand here. I'm not like the way the holes are setting things

But I don't know what you're saying like just the design of the golf holes just

Like you don't have you know it discourages you from hitting driver a lot

And I don't know it's just to me. It's gimmicky and strange and like this events almost more about the course that it is about the players and I don't

I don't particularly like that

Um, I've never loved this tournament

Um, I don't get excited for this tournament

It's fine. I understand the person's huge and that's why people love it

But it used to have the best field in golf before they stopped letting many of the best players play in it

Why would they what players from the lifts? No, I understand play in the PGA's flagship event

So that they could actually continue to contend it has the best

You know field in golf, which now it's seated over to like the PGA championship

Yeah, it does have the best I know it's the PGA championship

Yeah, because it's still stronger than the masters. It's stronger than the US open and because those are opens

Yeah, the masters only has

80 guys and 15 of them are 90 years old exactly. So it's now that I actually

Well, not like fully on Tim's side

Although I will never ever consider it a major I to the course

I don't I don't like calling it a gimmick course, but I don't

I don't care much for the course while acknowledging it looks so beautiful. It's made for TV

I don't they die the water like a Augusta. Well, that was always the rumor. Yes

But I think that they do yes

Which again fine. You're welcome to do that. It's your course, but it's like

The problem with it being a major is that like being a major is not an actual thing

Like there's no one who actually has a control

We we just all agree that there are four majors

But there's no like law written down that it must be four and four only

And so like if the PGA just starts saying it's a major or counting it as a major

And if you cover the PGA tour in a professional way get in line because it's what we're doing

Then they can just assert it

But I don't like it. I don't think it should be done

It's never going to be a major

But if the PGA tour decides it should be then like that's the problem

If they do that if they force it

Then it's going to allow for it to be mocked although like obviously you know

They paid Brando a bag to start his campaign early

It just doesn't work like that you can't like you said if there's no official assertion

Well, guess what the smartest guy in a room really never asked to tell anyone he's the smartest guy in the room

The funniest guy in the room never has to let you know the funniest guy in the room

They just are and if you have to tell us you're the funniest guy in the room

Well, guess what you ain't the funniest guy in the room

But if they can that's what they're going to attempt to do

I think it's easier unfortunately than you think if you just get the RNA and the USGA and the PGA of America

To all agree we're counting this as a major as well and you accredited it as a major and guys like Tiger and Rory

And to a lesser-degree Scotty say yeah, I get some major championship now

It is and like you we might mock it for 25 years from now

People who didn't go through this process and just been watching golf starting like next year because they're like 14

We'll just consider it a major like like Agusta

It just will happen like that's how these things work is that you just start asserting it and then it happens

Well, let's get to the top of the board

Sawgrass is over 7200 yards. It's very difficult

You can get some low scores the conditions play but you can also blow up

You're going to see a wide spectrum of scores by the end of the week where someone's going to be at minus 15

Someone's going to be at 15 over just the nature of the beast playing it in March has been better for this tournament in terms of producing

Major quality winners. Well, a you don't get a sea wolf him winning in March. I mean, you don't get my win this year

So what I'm saying is you would get weird fluke winners like Adam Scott when he's like six or 17 winning the that doesn't happen now

Being played in March for whatever reasons made this course a little less

Lock dependent the only non major champion to win since the move to March was cam Smith

And then he won the open later that year. That's right

So he too is a major champion. So it's been Rory twice Scotty twice JT and Cameron Smith as your champions

Obviously no tournament in 2020 because it was canceled. Although Hadecki if he wins

He, oh, he was he ended up being a major champion himself. So yeah, exactly

But to take a look at the top of the board

We got Scotty at four to one right now

Rory with the back injury is fallen from eight to one to 12 to one

Morakawa is 22 Fleetwood is 24

Zander is 24 Ludwig is 27. That is the entire grouping of players below or at 30 to one

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I don't I mean honestly Jeff of all of these guys. I know that you bet Ludwig

But you got the better number than the 27 or 30. It's more a coward with a bullet here

But I don't know if I want to do 22 to one

It's the only guy and I'm looking at it slightly higher

I almost bet him last week everyone that I was like swimming around last week like played great

for the most part

and I

I mean he was the first thought I had last week and didn't make it and

He's just doing everything right right now and it seems like he's set up perfectly to walk through that door if those two guys at the top

are in you know

Gonna have their A games

And what shocked me the most about more cow is to see the driving

Like the distance I never thought he was there but in the field

You know relative to the field it seems like he's much better at it than I thought or the speed gains that he's made of our starting to show

The Scotty conundrum is interesting because there's no way I can back him at four to one with the way that he's playing right now

It just he's he's what would his number have to be for you say you know

Eight to one which would be on yeah, I would be if Scotty was eight to one

I would bet Scotty at eight to one. I absolutely would is that the threshold?

I don't know if that's I think it's turned a bit dependent and obviously he's won here twice before he has

Weirdly his game if he was hitting his irons well is setting up perfectly for sawgrass this year because he's gaining so much off the tea

He's the longest straightest guy out there except for Michael Brennan

My question would be and maybe you guys can both answer this

Why is it that sense March only the elite and super elite are winning this tournament?

Is there a reason why only those guys in the huge field are winning it for a course that historically

Because of the flukiness of the course and the weirdness of the course you think would produce

just a like a

A cavalcade of unusual winners

Why has it been since the March 2019 shift that the the very top of the board of the only place you find the winners?

Why is that well?

It's it's not so I mean, yes, they you've found winners at the top of the board

It's generally been 33 to one and under I think cam smith and Justin Thomas were the two longest ones and cam smiths

Yes, he won but he won on a Wednesday

I almost gonna throw cam smiths out

You know that he didn't win it, but like that wasn't a normal tournament in any way shape or form

I don't think there's anything to be learned from much of that

But I think when we look back on it that I think you're thinking of way too many outliers having won this tournament even in may

It was mainly major champions who won then too like web simpson won in 2018 major champions

Seawoo is a real outlier

That's why he won it 300 to one and he played nails that week and oh that was a really

Really difficult year at the players it was just weird weather and he ended up winning by three over polter and Louis

But day one Ricky got his over surgio

Kimer's a major champion tiger's a major champion coach is not KJ choice not Tim Clark is not

He had that weird run it from like 2010 to 2012

But stenson surgio fill Steven a K candidate is out in Stephen Ames Fred funk Adam Scott Davis love tiger woods David Duval just in Leonard like

This has been like five non of major winners of the past 25 years who've won that's not culture

Culture, but that that's no different than the US open or anywhere else like you put all the best guys in a tournament at a hard course

Generally speaking the best guys win

Okay, as you read those names off. It doesn't seem like it's um

It's like almost like the guys that were the tier like in the two or three this the first or second tier after the best players

correct and

One of the differences I would say that the course has played a little bit harder sometimes

I mean Scotty won by a stroke at minus 22 years ago and it played really easy that year there was very little wind

But there's more of an emphasis

I don't want to say on distance in particular that you have to be the longest guy in the field

But because it's a little bit colder

It's not as burnt out that carry distance goes a little bit more that if you are an elite driver

Who can get that extra carry distance and hit fairies? I mean worry actually barely hit fairways last year

He was just so good out of the pine straw and rough that

It's not like it was before where kind of anyone off the tee could kind of win

It's driver at least before and I can't speak to now

But before in May it wasn't the club that people hit at Augusta at saw grass in May

It's still a three wood course so the driver so it's still mixed by and large

But even looking at the numbers on the rabbit hole and again code saw grass gets you the rabbit hole for a dollar this week

Go to BetsfordSKolf.com check it all out at the last two years driver usage is upright around like 60 to 65 percent

From 50 to 49 percent and how does that gauge?

Major tournament like what is Augusta's driver rate?

What is the U.S. driver?

Well, Augusta you don't go less than driver

Okay, but like at a USO put on an open championship for PGA is like 65 percent around what?

65 percent is tore average, but at I mean the open is going to be course dependent because

A ton of guys dependent. Yeah, like ton of guys just aren't going to hit driver

But how many guys you see at the US open not take a driver off the tee?

Especially now that's true regard even at Pebble Beach. That's true

And how other than see who like who and at the time it was an outlier

But like how many like historical outliers were actually even on the list pattern Scott out of Scott was a big outlier

He won because he was like okay, but like then history proved that it wasn't

Yeah, it turns out that even when Sergio won when he was like 22

It turns out that he was just really good. Okay, like I wouldn't say you look back on to be like man

I can't believe Adam Scott won the players. It's just he wanted it 21. Yeah

It turns out that he would he would be good for the next 25 years. Yeah, okay

Like the worst player on this list is Tim Clark

And then it's probably Stephen A he was a big game hunter of that Tim Clark. Yep

so

I think that makes betting this tournament very difficult

Because if you come to the conclusion to like 10 guys

It's almost like betting out the masters now. That's right

And you you do want to have like listen, JJ spawn almost one last year

You probably should have won last year and then didn't put them on Monday

I'm a sucker then because I'm not betting these guys

But I'm absolutely not shocked if Russell Henley

got her up

Matt Fitzpatrick like win the players

Well, Matt Fitzpatrick's a major champion so he should be on your list

Sorry

I'm with you though, but this makes it betting very difficult because

Like yeah, Zander's at 24 to one do I want to back Zander at 24 to one or Colin at 22 to one

maybe

Rory's really interesting here

Given that the winner is almost certainly to come from not guarantee almost certainly to come from

30 and shorter

You got to have at least one person from 30 to one or shorter

If you want a real chance at winning. I think you gotta have at least one to to pass point

It is tempting to just think Rory's healthy and you're going to like find 12 14 to one or something. Yeah

Not even today like if you wait during the week and we get no news and all of a sudden Rory's 15 or 16 to one

At some point it becomes like just a good gamble that maybe he's okay because now you're getting double what his number was

So fair and there's a lot to waiting obviously. I'm going to have my final picks with Keith on Wednesday morning

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You can find it there as well that will come out Wednesday afternoon. I'll do but the live show

Baby pending on Wednesday night with everyone to go over but I want to wait for the full weather report

It doesn't seem like it's going to be that bad. So that means T times are important

And then you're going to see some of these numbers drift because like look what is Ludwig gone from like 80 to 50 to 27 now Jeff

Never in 80, but there were 45 45 to

45 was the biggest I watch it and it's just like one of those things as he has struggled

Or had that pocket where he wasn't playing well in his weekly tournament numbers have gone to 40 50

The master's number never budged

But the players championship number was just been sitting here at these at 45

Even through through Saturday, I want to say to what degree is course history central zero?

Zero like course history like guys come second then they miss the cup which does speak to the flukiness a bit of the

It's not so much the flukiness because like PGA and outside of Shane Lowry at PGA national

It's very similar to that as well or the 3M open that if you just get it going bad for two holes

You are absolutely done. I remember Paul Casey like because I had bet on Paul Casey

And I put a lot of stock into course history with him because he was constantly top 15 basically every single year

So I'm like, you know what despite the fact that he never wins anything

I'm going to bet on Paul Casey. Yeah, I think he ended up going to the water three times on 17

You just done like you're it's over at that point

So there's no people for him. It's like a happy place that you at the top of the board

This is his or her happy his Scotty Rory. I mean, no, I mean there are there are guys

But even mixed into the results of the guys with good like Corey Connors for example

That's why I picked him. Yeah, no, I mean you tell me this of course history doesn't matter much

I'm a little anxious about that panic. Well, it's just I don't think that's it's predictive one way or another in terms of how they're going to do in a particular year

If you picked him over the course of five years, he probably has three really good results

That doesn't mean he's going to not come 11th the other two years

Okay, and that can kind of happen to anyone and well, it's interesting with Scotty that if Scotty's irons

Continue to be as bad as they've been relative to what his peak was and again, this is written up in the column that

The the point I was trying to make is Scotty last year Jeff was almost a half stroke better on approach per round than Victor

Hovland who was second the gap between

Number one and number two was essentially the gap between Victor and the guy was 137

Like it was such a pronounced gap Scotty's almost a stroke worse per round

On approach this season so far than he was in any of the past two years

That doesn't mean he's not going to get it back and go full Scotty chef or because we've seen flashes that even a bail

We saw flashes of it where just for seven holes like uh-oh

Here and you get like terrified when you see him coming, but then it just sputters out. It's happened

Oh, he almost got into the playoff in Phoenix ended up out of it by a shot

He's been making these runs but they've been coming more futile and futile in every basically subsequent week since so

If his irons are off the pet might be like his odds he hasn't missed a cut in three years

Okay, and I pointed to that year 2022 that his numbers most resemble

The last year he wasn't the most dominant iron player on earth a year where he won the match play

He won Bay Hill, he won the Masters he had a great ear, but I also missed three cuts that year too

I don't think it's crazy to look at Scotty to miss the cut numbers

Okay, all it requires is how he's hitting his irons and a bad punting week and he's been having you know

Thursdays and Fridays that have sometimes been like disastrous and I don't think that he I

I think that this week does he have a better job something like that these days

Look at my all right

Well, let's see to make the cut make the cut miss the cut

Scotty to miss the cut is 10 to one. Oh, I see that is almost double than I would a guess

So it's I mean not that I'm an originator and my brain doesn't work great. Do you make your big miss the cut?

I would guess you had gotten I think to miss the cut is I see I usually play the to make the cut parlay at the at the Masters

I do think that the move would be to I but I wouldn't put Scotty on a to miss the cut parlay

I would simply just bet him at 10 to one if I was going to make that bet

But I do think it's more

It's closer to a coin flip now is crazy as that sounds

His winning versus to miss the cut. Okay, and you're getting

Over three times as much for him to miss the cut

I don't know if I'm going to make this bet

But I thought that was a really interesting angle because that that's the whole point that I want to get to is

How do you bet this tournament if all the favorites win?

You try to find the favorite that wins bet them

But you know, we like to bet on lots of things how do we teach ways on a lot of each way like the top eights the top 10s

Even the top threes that I've been playing the past few weeks

I don't know if top three will give me better EV on both the outright and if they come top three

But I might sacrifice some of that outright number to go back to the top eight this week

Because you know, I was bailed out of that last year because Connors ended up inside the top eight

Oxe ended up inside the top eight. That was really good

Oxe seems like the world's biggest fade this week by the way

Yeah, I mean if he drives it like he did last week

Although at the end of the the last

The word bra fine. Yeah, the endy was driving just fine

I'd like to I don't know what Tim's thought on this is but when you're the best in the world

Like the best in the world

And maybe people you call me hypocrite

But I it's so cringe when you act like a petulant child on the golf course

When you've won everything and like you can't seem to

Control yourself when like it's not going right for two weeks like settle down pal

Yeah, sheffler turned into speed like speed vibes yelling a looking at his cali

How to miss

Well, like you blame like I I hated that I hate that

I think it's more I think it's more interesting for golf if sheffler

Kind of becomes speed 2.0

But it better than speed ended up being

Okay, you I mean you were you were on top of this

Speed is going to revert most people are like this guy's won three majors and he's like 22 years old

He's going to be awesome and then he was awesome for like another four years

It just didn't win any majors and then he turned into whatever that mean speed's fine

He's fine. He's one of the 50 best players in the world and he never recovered from a swing change in the success and

You know weirdly don't growers fault anyway. Well, that's what now it's all pets got false

I know

But it's weird for like I can see why speed but speed was like that even when he was dominating

But Scotty at this point like he's dominated for so long and just you know

He blew past whatever speed did that when he does miss a shot

He's like genuinely confused now. He's like, but this goes to five feet every time. That's true

I guess that's the two right

Yeah, he looked a little and those I don't know is

Seeing on the practice rounds in the shorts like the legs look too skinny the body

Maybe he's got to put 20 back on that's what John Daley said he lost a bunch of weight and he couldn't put anymore

He's did you guys like um

GD son

Made a run

He's probably an excellent golfer

He's already gotten this far and he's got his dad's genetics like he's probably going to be a pretty darn big golfer

And he's probably not pounding a

Forty of vodka on the course area, but like you know

Golf is not a sport where we have seen many people's children

That's not like football where like it's not uncommon to see bill

So would like to have a word with you. It's not common. So deceased. Yeah, it's not common

So to see somebody's son like be awesome at golf is an unusual circumstance and something to root for

Well, like Charlie's pretty good

He is but like how good is he going to be we have no idea it would be awesome

Hey, if Charlie Woods was like a PGA level golfer

Charlie Woods does not seem like he's as good as John Daley the second. I think we could he's getting

That's like 70 coming. I think one of the coach your boys might be coming on in a few years

I think we're going to see it maybe a bit

A bit more

On the broadcast on Saturday

Someone said that they were speaking to

Ludwig's caddy

Around the green in the morning and he said like we're back Ludwig's putter full-go

And then on the broadcast after that story was reiterated

He missed a four footer on three and then a a six and eight footer on the next three holes

And I was so frustrating, but I want to say being in Florida. I was still there on Thursday flying home Friday

Saturday was the first chance I got to hear Jim Furek. I thought he was excellent

Yes, I agree. He was actually he's better than Kismar

Yes

100 percent you know what Kismar didn't talk about at the bayhole broadcast when I had money on him

And he fucked up 18 to lose deletion

He didn't bring that up did he Furek who's been good at this tournament too

So he may have some insights at the players channel. Yeah, Pat clipped me because I'd Furek. He had Kimer that year

That was the year wasn't he lost a Kimer

Yeah, he also he was in that mix with Rory the first year Rory one too. That's right

He was like the old man making a run

So I hope that they give Furek a lot of runway this week at the players championship

I it's not I mean you're gonna settle on your voice

I don't mind a rotation of like three or four guys you you identified the one guy who's really good

And he does the biggest events. Yeah, but you don't need to have Furek out there every week

No have Kismar for the Valero Texas fine or whatever

But if this is the flagship event of your PGA season you should have your best commentators on it

They don't put the C crew on the NFL on the Super Bowl. There's also a I mean this is gonna sound

terrible, but

Kismar sounds like a dummy when he talks

I don't know about that. It's just I don't want to hear a southern accent in the booth

Oh, I don't mind a southern accent. I think it can be there's a reason that most of these guys have been like outside of Johnny Miller like

British accents or South African accents. There's like a CBS had Lanny. What's his name? Was it Lanny?

Forever he is very has other accent when he retired like before he followed it to go over from him

So like 2006 and seven so it's like to over 25 years ago

I don't mind a southern accent. It doesn't matter to me. It matters to me as long as as an elitist. I don't like it

I want to hear some posh man up there

Well, in some ways a well-polished southern accent is this more positive. Yeah, you know, I would you know what if you want to give me a real fancy man

Yeah, like a really like well manicured southern actions better than like 95% of America

Give me the people from the southern charm show on Bravo. Don't give me Kevin Kismar. Bless your soul. Yeah, like that would be fine

But just there's something about it that

Unless it's a completely like international accent

I just want my broadcasters have the most neutral voice like Robert stack

No, Robert stack has a very pronounced voice, but it was like it's neutral

It is, but it's also forceful at the same time. Most broadcasters have a very neutral voice like it's very

Maybe it's just it's regional that I don't want to hear like I wouldn't want to hear some guy from fucking the Bronx on there either

They're just piss me off to no end just give me give me neutral. I guess

Oh Jim. Yeah, give me take me Tony. I take Tony over over Kismar. You be fired up to do golf

That's a great way for the PGA to make extra money. Let's see you made the player championship a major you put that out to tender

To what you would put it out to tender

And why would NBC have the exclusive rights to the player's championship? They might own they might own part of the course

That could be why

Because they were not you know that they and golf channel because they were headquartered there for so long

They put so much infrastructure into it. I believe that's why they get it

If this was like a fair and balanced approach to a fifth major

I think the golf world would say the Australian open

Yeah, that's that's not gonna happen. I'm I hate to tell you so that's I don't know

I maybe that's me living in the world

I want to live in as opposed to the world we're in like him with his golf balls

You know what they do the PGA tour doesn't want to do is put a major in fucking Australia where it comes on it two way out

There is one major in PGA stands for America. I'm just gonna say that there are going to be a lot of people

in this golf thing

That just look at let's say I want to support the new guy

But they're just gonna look at them is like a football guy is telling us this is a major like

sorry pal

I don't know if you guys remember

But when Ben Johnson the rumors when he lions bears coach when he turned down the Washington job a couple years ago

That famous quote of like he didn't feel comfortable working for a couple basketball guys

You are more likely to see the fifth major be in Saudi Arabia than you are

Australia, I would agree

Not the veteran masters presented by Sir Nick Faldon. Well, it's not always presented by Sir Nick Faldon

No, it was last year. It was presented by Danny Willett one year

That's not like a major event. I actually don't think we need an extra me. I agree

By the British masters versus the real master the you and the US PGA and the British PGA

It's okay sub banks will put out

He had to clarify us PGA because he gave a Ricky Fowler 200 to one at a ronomec I saw on the internet yesterday and Ricky Fowler's like a top 30 player in the world right now

Ricky's super interesting right now. He's been playing good golf. I was very surprised

That Ricky and Colin Ross chefs on Saturday to finish the way they did and a bit Ricky and it didn't bite Colin

That like what's a stroke worth to you

To have that full night's rest

Oh, because like I don't think it's worth a stroke. I do what Ricky gave up to get in he did

I guy think and unless you are

Who was it who didn't want to stick around Jeff was a Paul Casey or Paul Casey?

I don't know where you bet them. Phil wanted to play in the pitch darkness because as Jeff said he had g

The Gulfstream rental fees that he didn't want to have the pilots like there and then the pilots go on an overtime extra night

When you on the plane you're paying for the pilots to sleep room and board two friends

I think I think it's context dependent now they were way back at the time too

That's one thing to consider. Well the other part to come with two strokes back. What's that Colin was two strokes back of that

I know burger was up by four. No he was because burger just made a birdie because he was still on the course now

He know he was he was coming back to putt for eagle. Yeah, so he

It was a score wasn't actually what the score was he was minus 12 and and Colin was minus 10 when he was at the end

If it was me I would try to finish if I was on the last hole because it's not even the full night sleep

Is that you get yourself ready to go back out like you still have to go warm up and do all your regular stuff

Even if it stayed a chip in a pot

And then you now have to wait six hours till you play again

It's not like you're going back if you if they were able to go back out right away

But they were in the second the last group. They would have had to wait for the entire course

What it's worth to you. How many strokes is it worth a full stroke? I guess so

I mean, he probably also thought he was going to make it

Gave him good sleep scores, too. Yes, David. They're talking with their sleep scores

Let's give him a whoop member

Listen, if you're going to do on a day where you lose an hour based on daylight saving

And they don't even address it in your sleep score. I don't know why that's on the screen. How are you doing awful?

I hate this time change. It's the worst that Jared and Dayton notice on the gun in the day

I was come up on the other time I was I was edgy when I came in here today

I was and I was I hate this time chain

Someone who enjoys to play golf. I don't understand how you can hate this time. Because it throws your circadian rhythms off

You know what else does drinking coffee?

Having six and eating fast food all day. That is a separate

That is a session. I wouldn't worry too much about the hour of time change

You know what it gets us extra daylight in the summer so we can play golf longer

It's it's you know what we're just better off when we just have regular normal time. I don't like it. It throws me off

I don't like that it's in the middle of the night

They should make the time change like during the day

So that like people aren't like losing sleep over it

Imagine if it was two o'clock on a Friday people would be fired up that would days over now kind of go home

It's four o'clock now

You're just bitter because you're like

Months of glory are over. They are over, but you know, it's only three

It looks about three months until clock starts move or the calendar start moving backwards just a little bit

So enjoy it while you got it, but but my time is coming again, and it will not go away

So of these top six guys, Jeff

The bet for I think we should give a look to Tommy here. This seems like the perfect Tommy Fleetwood course to finish

I mean maybe

I'm seeing with the Memphis. Yeah

And it's got the end of bad guys like Tommy a week ago Pat was like when I was betting those 17 to other guys

He was like 18 to one so I'm enjoying the drift and I'm not a more a cow a guy

So you know, and this is a tournament where

I mean God forbid it's a major, but it's big enough where you know, I ride my

Horses is it a 30-man event because if it is Tommy might win

He's eight if you play the different sorts of each way, so if you play him with the one fourth top like the

Top eight each way he drops to 20 to one if you do the three each way he goes up to 35 to one

I don't I don't hate Tommy Fleetwood at all as we've seen the last two weeks on the PGA tour

All that good grace of Tommy would be going out the window

I've got forbid he did something like burger or shame. You said this is a reduced field from traditionally

It's it's down from 144 to 121, but it's still 65 and ties 65 and ties, but I don't really care what happened at

Riviera or Bayo as it pertains to Sawgrass. You know where he did play well at Pebble Beach, which is

Easily a more comp

I mean it's a tie course. It's an easier course

But you're going to hit more similar shots at Pebble Beach than you were ever going to do here

And I think he finished like top 10 at Genesis anyway in a bad week at Bayo got Bay Hill is another one of those courses

Like this place where guys can have good records time over time on again

Then you see oh one year they were plus nine. I'm not sure missing the cut at Bay Hill isn't good for your chances at this tournament

Like Lowry missed the cut. Lowry I don't pick him. Lowry could with this thing easily

Lowry nearly won a Florida event two weeks ago. He's he's been playing good golf

He could go off the witness. Thank no problem and having the extra time off probably didn't do Lowry any

disservice. He was still probably pretty rattled from what happened the week before so like did you I wouldn't

Did you bet burger at the cognizant Pat? No

See I didn't so I wasn't like you know and I

People who probably bet him at the cognizant were probably like just frustrated watching yesterday

But that you know Tim's leading into it. Do we think burger

Is going to have a week this week like Shane had last week

Well, one of the biggest talking points that Keith and I had that we severely disagreed on last week

Was the impact of around the green play at Bay Hill in that our good around the green players predictive

At Bay Hill and it was my contention that they are not that anyone can kind of have a good week chipping at Bay Hill because you're

Chunking it out of these deep rough lies, and it's not like it's going to be this week where there's basically no rough around the greens

They're shaved off your hell you can putt in some spots if you want to you need to have that sort of touch

Those like seawoo Hadecki

Justin Thomas Cam Smith would have been another one where they're just they have that immaculate touch to get the ball to stop

No one was getting the balls to stop at Bay Hill

They're firmer greens they're fast and you're coming out of the rough the majority of the time

And then you see that the guy who was ranked statistically basically the worst on tour around the green

In Daniel burger all of a sudden has a good week chipping now. He did chip well

That did help him in his score

But to come into the way he gained around the greens

He had lost in the four previous tournaments and over his past 50 rounds

He's been losing a half stroke around the green per round

And then he goes to Bay Hill and he gains a half stroke positively

So and Okshay is not the world's greatest around the green player either he chipped in like three times

You can have a spike week because are these things happened

But it it's more apt to happen at Bay Hill than it would be at the players now if you chip in twice

Your number is going to be completely skewed and it could be a lucky chip like the one that Scotty hit at

Phoenix earlier where if it didn't hit the pin and go in it was going into the water across the green

Because it had so much momentum by it

But it went in so he gets credited for a huge pump up and around the green number

So they're not completely by the book

There's stuff that fudges them either way

But if someone's constantly losing they're probably not that good around the greens

So it would worry me where

Generally over the past five years off the T and around the green have been worth about the same to the top 10 finishers

That you need to have an on point

Okay, it's obviously better just to hit the green's regulation

Therefore you don't have to chip but no one does that

Okay, Tim if you got into this Akshay

Anchoring controversy that I see golf Twitter likes to play with

You know you know who likes to say that Akshay

Is anchoring his putter people who bet on Daniel burger

I asked Pat about it earlier. I said is he anchoring his putter

I've seen this controversy and he's going to be no he's not doing he's not anchoring his putter

Do you know you know why it looks that way Jeff?

Well, the TV angle probably doesn't help but I I've been willing to believe

With how hard core of these guys are if he was anchoring his putter

There'd be people screaming in the locker room and be a much bigger effect

It's called people call into the broadcast when somebody doesn't put their putt back

In the exact right you know who calls people out on cheating Daniel burger

Well said Pat well said there is and the reason that it looks that way is because Akshay

So god damn skinny that all of his clothes hang on listen. He's not me out here

Where so there's no room in between my chest and shirt that it's basically painted on

Akshay is just out there with like eight inches of gap so when he puts it underneath

It looks like he is anchoring

But it's just like his shirt is hanging down

So it's touching the top of your shirt. Yeah, and people get like

Also, I mean, I'll throw it out there if Akshay wasn't a brown dude people wouldn't care as much and go

I think people just hate on about the anchoring

I think people just don't like the broomstick putter in general and therefore

Yeah, I didn't hear I didn't hear shit about this when Adam Scott did the exact it does the exact same thing

I don't like when Adam's I don't like it

Yeah, you know what no one mentions it

I don't like it when Bryson uses that super long putter and anchors it into his arm either

I don't like that Bryson's also just doing his own thing. I know we I miss him

You can watch live he plays on it so fun at this course. Oh my goodness. Well, he's such a perfect course for him

I mean, you say it's a thinking man's golf course. We have to be creative and make shots

Well, he did he he almost wanted to hear the Justin Thomas wanted and he didn't hit driver all week

He won't only hit driver on the power fives. He took five iron out off every day. He doesn't need to

No, but he was like just he was like I got to keep it clean

Yeah, if I'm in the water, I can't wait. I miss someone like him would be so much fun to watch here

So of the guys that we mentioned those the big six this week. Who would it be for you

We're into the big six. They showed us uh, they showed us pairings already Pat on the broadcast to see that

I didn't because I'm not watching the broadcast right now. I guess

Shoffley

Why

Well, he has he fits all that criteria of major winner who you know has did the course history doesn't matter

And he's come second here. Yeah, so I don't know

I'm down on Scotty for the reasons you've described that his ball striking has not been as good

And it's it's price sensitive with Scotty too

I I think that's the that part that gets lost in this area. If you told me they were all 10 to one

Well, sure, okay

But like I'm off on Rory

I'm not convinced that if he starts to feel bad to protect himself for Augusta

You know, he doesn't like withdrawal if he starts to feel pain again

So I I have no risk tolerance for Rory

And Fleetwood doesn't win real events. So I don't like Fleetwood

um

So where else am I going to go

Moricawa

It was who's kind of engineered in the lab for this course. I'm kind of like a light version of Jeff

I'm not a big fan of Moricawa. So it's hard for you to pick him

I don't want to push the conversation there and Pat when I meant the broadcast

I mentioned yesterday. He's like Sunday round broadcast. They showed us final groups

Uh, I can't believe they kept Justin Thomas in one

And he's loving. He's a former champion and he's Justin Thomas. He's making a second start

Yeah, as much as I'm as much as he seems milk toast people do recognize Justin

Absolutely

I'm surprised if I to like guess a player that you would have had in your three pack this morning

I because it's always I've always feel like you'd vindicate your Hadecki pick

Well, we were not there yet. Like it was one of the options, but I gave my three pack. Yeah, any oh the three pack

Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm still frustrated that Hadecki gave away that huge win for me at Phoenix

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So this 30 to 75 range the next tier of guys. This is going to be the popular spot for everyone who is betting and it's got some names

I mean

Seawoo is at 31 32 to one. I'm probably going to bet he's having the best year of his career

There's no one

gaining more strokes per round then seawoo this year and this is the perfect seawoo course. It's short

He's accurate and he's outside of well, I guess Roy not now. Seawoo's hitting the best. He's can't put but he has put it well here

occasionally

And then what you're really praying for with seawoo is just you're hoping he makes a few pots this week

He doesn't and he's not even like some of these other guys that need to make all the pots in order to win

He's not Denny McCarthy. It's like well Denny needs to gain 20 strokes

Just pencil and seawoo for two and a half strokes potting gain and he can win

I feel like you can know pretty early with seawoo whether you're going to have a good week or bad week

I agree. He's like oh back in that sense that like he's their good or he's not say that again

Let big oh back

Okay, the the first one was like oh back. Oh

Anyway, you said it like our friend Billy says french day. Oh

Well, he's from Montreal. That's the way he says it. That's so can't be young Hadecki seawoo Henley got her up nap minwoo straca

Akshay Victor Harris English fits

We just lowered help you with Fitzpatrick

can't lay bobby mack rickie lowery griffin burger brooks kittiyama your boy mav McNeely

Adam Scott speed hairy haul bridgeman just in rose sam burns that's the entire collection of guys in this range

I like seawoo

I do like rose and the only bet that I have on the board so far is straca at 60 to one and I took him with five places

I mean he's obviously tumble them seem that like four

Just dropped to 45 a couple places. Yeah, he's 45 50 in some spots now

But I mean he missed all those short putts on on sunday so we could bank him all for this week

You called a bogey train and whatever

He wasn't gonna then he's not gonna win and then I sort of like when that happens

I sort of like I'm an apologist for like the final like six holds for a player of that caliber

Well, I told you that about Scotty too in like many are pointing to how bad his approach numbers were but

Scotty's not playing for

Eighth place. He's playing to what once he's

He basically looked at the score. We're like well

I need to birdie every hole on this course if I have any chance to win

So there's nothing stopping him from firing at pins that you just don't fire at well

We've seen that at this term before where people stop trying to win and just start trying to protect their payout

Well, the polter got paid like three million bucks for it

So he's doing okay, and we know he's all about the money. No fair enough

We found that out but you know

Something to bear in mind when you've got if you have like a 150 to one guy

He was a long shot odd and he's in second

Maybe he doesn't take on that risky shot on 16 because he's playing to protect his money. That was the seawoo year

That polter didn't try to go for it from the woods also he wasn't gonna make that shot too

I think he did know that so I agree with him like by the time Scotty's on 16 yesterday

He is just like what am I having for dinner? What will I you know?

What will I bring on the plane like his mind is like he's very for Bible study?

You're not trying to protect FedEx cop points or a dollar

It's just let's get this over with so I'm gonna

Those sorts of players and I even put strata in that level

But in a tier of like I don't think he's protecting FedEx cop points. I don't think he gives a shit

I'm gonna Paul just for how around finish is when you're that tier of player once you're like not gonna win

The sand burns belong in that tier. No, I don't I don't think I'm gonna ask you about him

I think these pros odds were shorter than I would have anticipated they ought to be for sand burns really

What would you think that he was gonna be at 80 to one? Oh really?

As he wins last time he's been good. He was good a couple weeks ago, and he was only 40 to one that week

Yeah, that was at at pebbly 66 to one

Okay, so that's still a little that means behind Harry Hall on the board. Harry. Oh

Yeah, Rose and Burns are the same number which makes sense. He said Rose is one this year. Yeah, I like I like Rose more than Burns

However, I can see the case for sand burns. I don't like his driving here

That would really worry me okay

So in this rate Pat you know who I'm thinking about and I haven't crossed off Hadecki

Um, can Hadecki not drive the ball in the water? We we've seen Hadecki have a bit of a struggle off the T so further

But I don't think I've ever made a bet on this guy in the history of our show

So it's not that you can't lay Harris English

No, I've bet I want not I won with Harris English last year with that. Who have you not bet?

You've never you've never been in the range. Oh, so you like Russell Hadecki this week. I might be able to bet on it's like a poor version of morocawa

And I don't want to cheer for morocawa

Well, couldn't you then make the case that Harris English is sort of the poor man's version of both those guys who's played better at bigger tournaments

very fair point

very very fair point

um

Geez yeah, I don't know. I was thinking what you might have to say about fits. I'm seeing it as high as 50

Then I don't know that I'm gonna be there a week ago. I thought I for sure would be there

I feel like I almost if I've been betting him every week anyway. He's a major champion. He is a major champ of that

and

He finally had a bad approach week at a number where if you hit it into the water twice it can severely skew your approach numbers

Honestly and it did when he kept going in the water yet and he was another one that

I think he got it to four under on Sunday and he hit like one bad shot

The rest of his car was like bogey bogey bogey bogey bogey just say I think he bogey'd five of the last six holes or something like that

That every day has

Seaweed of 40 if you need that on a boost

I'm looking at it right now

But I can also I I'm trying to figure out if I want to play the eight places the three places or just win only

I think I want to play places because of the top end stuff here

But I think I will end up if I've been riding fits for a month anyway

And he's been having the best ball striking year of his career to this point and the only reason

He couldn't get over the line for four tournaments because he couldn't make a putt

Well, he made all the puts at bayhill that he did do they just didn't have auction

After auction he's been your guy and then he won I mean

Oxe I like oxe so much him being my favorite player. I don't need to bet on oxe for me to feel I mean

I wish I had I wish I had bet on oxe

But I feel good when oxe wins because I like him so much. I want to I sort of had that feeling like his burger

I thought was gonna win. It's like I like burger a lot. I'm really happy and happy from to win a big boy

And it's not like I had it's not like I had money on burger

I had money on Ludwig and just he wasn't gonna get it's got too much stuff in his pockets

You notice that? He's always got way too much stuff in his back pockets

It must be extremely uncomfortable to put like that when you've got like

George's wallet on one side and like your gloves stuff to like stuff

And I it seems like it would be uncomfortable. He's very frustrating because there's these moments of brilliance

And then there's these moments of like it feels unserious, but

You know it is it is super impressed

I guess it was Saturday when he when he duff that shot in the sand trap

And then hit the second one of the sand trap to about nine inches when they were talking about how

Guys usually hit this way too hard blasted past the hole

He just didn't I was like that is super impressive. So there's water on the left everywhere here

Yes, as you may know right off the first tee. Yeah, and and off a two

So the hole that we played the 18th hole at hunter's run that we played on the weekend is basically to mimic the 18th hole at

Sawgrass and like pebbles 18th is similar though. It's a part five. It's a very similar hole

Not really because you can drive it straight

Remember the JT almost got wet on 18 at couple the early one

JT is never one bevel you're talking about sawgrass. Yeah, like yeah almost got wet off the hole

Yeah, he put it in like a great low stinger

So the left so on the rabbit hole you can sort by left-hand and see and right-hand and see off the tee

So the players that miss to the left the least

Aaron Rye, Mora Kawa, Noren, Poston, Berger, The Smotherman

Seawook him, Kidiama, Kenaya, Havlund, SungJ

And we'll get to Damon in a bit. Ryan Gerard is up there at Chris Kirk

Pius and Kudy is another one Ricky Fowler is another one who very rarely misses left guys that do miss left

Thank you

Oxhey Ricky Castillo

Tony Finao, Johnny Kiefer, Davis Riley, Shootershan, Yellermaraju

Yeah, it's Canadian, okay, Old Yellerm

Eric Cole, Zander misses to the left, Day Sheffler has a bad kick, Steven Yeager, no shock there, Minwu is another one

Goddrup is another one up there as well

Goddrup was Goddrup and Minwu were really interesting to me Jeff

You don't have to see Gala in that group either. I'm not betting the yellow

Okay

Late on me

Well, just Goddrup and Minwu has had two really good runs at the players and he's hidden his approaches

Good for the first time in his career right now

And he's another one who doesn't necessarily have to use driver at this course because he hits it so long

But you can break it out on the power fives and get there and I would think yeah

So two of the many drivers are not going to be all over sawgrass

Probably it depends on the player most players don't carry the mini driver today. I'm seeing more

I saw it. I saw it come out this weekend a bit. I feel for a few guys

I feel would definitely carry it. I feel would have like eight mini drivers. He did win the players once

Yeah, that's I'm in on the shot out of the sandwich. I'm a sucker

So you're in on Minwu. It's just their odds of cratered a bit

And like why why is Minwu a better bet than Goddrup who's already won twice this year

Yeah, I can't speak for that. I like I can't speak for

It does feel like like Minwu getting under 50 to one would be a little

Like I don't know if I would want to do that Minwu Lee he'll be on the presents cop

They didn't even play him in the day that we know. Yeah, I can't because Mike Weir is like the worst captain imaginable

So you've what Jeff out there as the captain he's doing a better job than Mike Weir is 100% you're doing a better job Jeff

You're not just rolling out the same groups twice in a row on Saturday

So what what is it about Brooks that you don't like you just use him as a one and done and he played really well for you

I just think Brooks is too inconsistent. I don't really want to seem to do that well anyway

You don't want to see him do well. You just said no, I'm not too much of a fan of Brooks right now

Exactly because he left your beloved lift and nothing to do with that. I just am not too impressed

I think Brooks is interesting now he's doing consistent

But he's also 75 to one

And that's okay. I know when he plays well, he can win. He's gonna at 75 to one. He's probably gonna lose most of the time

Hey, yeah, that's a pretty good number 75. I see a lot of 50-55s out there for him

You're just out on him. Is there anyone Brooks? Yeah, there's this whole like group of golfers at 55 to 61 that

Like I know you guys mentioned

um

Rose but

Like Bobby and Ricky and kitty-amma English even Tim's boy mav

Kitty-amma is really I just want to have the guts to bet any of

I mean kitty-amma's driving especially his accuracy is improved so much that I don't see why not

He's a as you like to see a generational flusher

He yeah, oh yeah, yeah

He's pure he's basically

It's

Longer off the tee Cory Connors, but with more constant

He actually gain strokes putting sometimes and there's a couple books Pat that I don't think they know what's up

But they've just been confused and I you'll be refunded

But they've got Patrick read it 40. I've seen it on two books

So watch out for Patrick read this week not a person I'm not cheering for much actually

He's basically re-earned his PGA to work out already. I don't think he's gonna be that good not in the field

But uh, yes, he is not playing he will be a gust and you won't be doing that well

Min was driving accuracy for the year at some of these shorter courses where he's been playing he's up to 23rd in driving accuracy, okay

That's super interesting

There is a long shot I want to ask you about well, do you want to get to so there's no one else here

So for me row, I mean it's the team losers. I've been betting like I like rows. I like kitty-amma. I like fits

Harris English is intriguing if I can find a better number on him, but

And see who would kind of be the five in here. I struck as the only one that I've actually put money down on

For the week, but I

Need to massage this a bit and figure out how I want to bet these guys whether it is a win whether

I'm gonna fucking fits Patrick. I know it. Did you mention hobble and yet?

He was on that list you when I asked what names intrigued you no one brought him up