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As I said, it was repeated again and again, overall, an entire decade in a kid's life.
That's forever.
That it was done and made with knowledge that serious harm would result.
And it did.
We believe the evidence has shown that meta works incredibly hard to protect users, including teens.
In accordance with the civil penalty instruction and the instructions as a whole, how many willful
violations did meta commit by engaging in unfair or deceptive trade practice?
The jury's answer is 37,500.
Big tech critics hail Big Tobacco moment in landmark social media verdict against meta,
the parent company, Facebook, and Google, intentionally being addictive and depressing
and controlling.
Yeah, and parents let their kids do that.
I'm not defending Big Tech, but once you go down this slippery slope of, oh, the way
they did it, yeah, and you let your kids do that, give me a break.
What's sick is Trump doesn't have Elon Musk on his new Big Tech board.
He's got the good guys off the board and has put his arch enemy Zuckerberg on the board
at a bunch of other garbage.
And people are like, there you are throwing Trump out of the bus again.
Zuckerberg got $400 million to create the databases of dead people and he legals and all
that is still 2020.
Okay, fine, I love Zuckerberg, if Trump says so.
At Todd Blantz, the Democrat around the DOJ, they're saying good, and I'm going to bet you
about it.
Meta must pay $325 million for violating New Mexico's law and child exploitation case.
Companies have been very effective in using something called Section 230, which is a law
in this country that protects the companies who have social media from being liable for
things that their users post on the site.
What these two cases focused on is how the company manipulated the algorithm and developed
products like infinite scroll in order to give kids some an addictive product that would
keep them on the site and keep them coming back.
And what ended up happening is those kids would use those addictive products and then ultimately
have suicidal thoughts or potentially body dysmorphia or they'd be getting unslisted messages
from child predators.
And the company is knowingly, according to documents revealed in both of these cases,
it understands that this is a problem that they had and both Jury's found that they did
not do enough to stop this.
So again, a huge landmark here, not for the dollar figure, but for the significance
of the rulings.
government shouldn't be involved in the first amendment.
We should have internet, all over the world, internet IDs, they are protecting kids.
Hey, you put their parental controls on or don't let your kids on devices.
Control what you give your kids, folks, it's not the state's job.
There's Zuckerberg's predator praying on your children.
Blackbird's Trump, America AI Act repeals section 230, expands AI liability and mandates
age verification.
No, it's the AI dictatorship act that Trump tried to get passed before he got back in
office, Republicans did, but he pushed and they signed executive order on that makes big
tech and AI above the law.
Nobody can sue him, Congress can, local legislators can't challenge him, citizens can't
sue him, and then the executive branch can let AI do whatever it wants.
It's, it's, Congress has created the AI, liability protection, dictatorship bill to enforce
Trump's executive order that is wrong.
That's the real headline, over hype, this is some good news, new polls suggest Americans
are shunning AI as a breaking news source, they're rejecting it, they don't want it.
Well, I don't just believe polls, oh, I like the proof.
The biggest video generating tool is no more, is the AI bubble bursting, chat GPT has
shut down its AI system, because not enough people are using it, it costs too much money
and it's a failure.
People are sick of it, U.S. bands far and make consumer routers over cyber security
concerns.
I think we will decades ago China has all these remote control kill trips and everything,
now it's all admitted.
And then it just continues, Apple forces, UK iPhone, age checks in iOS 626.4, get a
UK ostrich, they're all making Apple other companies do age revocations, hey, then adults
have to do it.
And now it's internet ID, then in the UN, gates rose standardization will be used for
the cashless society, the social credit score, the grid.
To be like, don't you want to not let kids look at porn?
Yeah, if you're dumb enough to give your kid a phone that doesn't have-
We are back, Rex Jones, Tim Topkins, American Journal, how are you doing Tim?
Better than I deserve, man.
Indeed, every day breathing is a good day.
Goodness for back.
Yes, nice to be back with you again.
I love doing this.
Honestly, with two of us, the dynamic, but I gotta give you your flowers, man.
You've been holding it down.
I've been watching the solos.
My schedule doesn't allow me to be here every day, but you, my friend, I open every moment.
We've been making it work, Tim's been contributing a lot, helping me find articles,
helping me find videos and sources and stuff.
Because it's very difficult to fill three hours a day, five days a week,
but we love doing it, especially when we're both on here.
We're able to have guests of the caliber we're going to have on today.
Tell them a little bit about Simon Dixon.
We've got you joining us at the bottom of the next hour.
So Simon is a, he's a great guy.
We had him-
He's a genius.
Yeah, he's a genius.
We had him on the show.
He is a, one of the original people in Bitcoin, the people who've been pushing it.
He's tried to start his own bank in England.
Yes, he's got an extensive history.
He used to be on Wall Street.
He knows everything about the financial system and the industrial complexes that control behind
the scenes. So he's like one of those insiders where you're going to get the best information
because he's in rooms that the average person is not in.
So I really love to have him on the show.
I was like, hey, we got to make sure that enough people hear it.
This is a guy that tried to make the first new bank in England in like hundreds of years.
It was like, was on the precipice of doing it.
And they tell you how the whole system works.
And he's like, okay, I'm going into crypto.
I'm going into these alternative modes of currency.
And that's what he's really an expert on.
Early, early, early Bitcoin adopter.
I believe Max Keiser and him are mutual as well in that person as a long time affiliation
with my father. So it's very cool.
Very cool to have Simon Dixon here on the network.
We've been trying to get him on for a little while.
But we're new at doing this.
Things can be a little bit imperfect, but that's why we do it.
We love the struggle.
Yes, we do love the struggle.
But again, phenomenal guests to have on.
You guys are going to really enjoy that at 9 a.m.
Yeah, let's get into the news here.
We got Trump's latest tweet.
And this is clip one.
I want to just go ahead and throw to this because we're not trying to just do the politics
and war show.
We got a lot of varied information from y'all, but y'all want direct updates.
This is the first news show on Info Wars in the morning.
Let's go to clip one.
Come closer, you're getting that call.
Well, we have a coalition forum, but they should have been up here a long time with them.
And you know, they're affected.
The amazing thing is we don't need the almost strength.
We don't need it.
We don't need it at all.
We don't we have so much oil.
Our country is not affected by this.
We have more.
All right, let's talk about it twice.
Okay, so he's saying we can we leave it up on the screen?
We don't need it.
He said you don't need it.
We have all the oil you need.
Just buy it from us in the number two.
Build up some courage and just go take it.
Go take the straight.
Here's the thing.
Patriots are in control.
We've heard this.
We've heard that the situation is under control.
Does this sound under control?
I mean, we've we've been saying that for a while.
As soon as, you know, the missile start flying over to the middle to these Gulf states.
Don't worry, guys.
It's under control.
Don't panic.
We know you have drones.
Go get to these high rises, but don't panic.
Don't worry.
We'll take care of it.
Oh, South Korea, Japan.
We're going to need those missile defense systems.
Yeah, by the way, we got to take it into the middle east.
Oh, the Gulf country is like, yes, is it for us, brother?
Is it for us?
No, no, no.
It's not for you.
It's for us and is real.
So like our allies are just like, okay,
and they were like, you can buy the oil from us
or you can just go take it yourselves.
I mean, taking it themselves means making a deal with the wrong.
That's what that really means.
That's the that's the hidden message.
Well, I mean, at this point,
either do that or you go to Russia, right?
Because Russia's rolling in the cash.
I think they made $760 million within the last month or two.
Just off of the loop.
So I mean, I don't see how you just say, take it without force.
So you're saying, commit your troops, commit your ships,
get into this conflict if you want some oil.
Right.
Like the Philippines right now, I think they were like,
it's 40 days before all of their oil reserves.
It's like a national crisis.
You said, go ahead, Philippines.
Go take your oil.
That's all you need.
Just go send some ships out there and it's like, okay.
And this is going to destroy the rest of the world.
It's already started to do that.
And just because we're insulated from that here,
doesn't mean it's not going to affect us down the road.
And here's the thing.
A lot of people love America.
A lot of people really still love America around the world.
We're trying our damnedest to remove that.
And that really sucks.
It is.
And it's that like playing both sides, things where like people are like,
well, we trust you, but then you like stab us in the back.
Right.
And that's the thing that the rest of the world is not going to
cooperate with.
And again, we're pushing most of our allies closer to our enemies
by doing these types of things.
And we all know, talk is cheap.
Like people want to see actions now.
And not just in America, but across the world.
That's really what they want to say.
No more looking into it.
Like you looked into it enough.
We got it more.
Okay, so it's time to go get on your bike.
Well, you know it's bad when the Pope starts speaking up too,
because I've never seen him saying anything for these other conflicts.
The Pope said, we don't have this article.
Maybe we can pull it up, but it's not super important.
The Pope said that the prayers of those who commit wars or start wars go on
an answer because they have blood on their hands.
And he's American, right?
So I mean, it doesn't get any better than that, folks.
Like I mean, if an American Pope is going out there.
The Pope is a sad loser.
Like that's what you get, right?
Seriously, let's go ahead and get into clip two.
And this is what's going on in Israel right now.
This is just a brief little story.
They've passed the death penalty.
If you are a Palestinian convicted of killing in Israeli,
they'll automatically kill you.
So let's watch them see how they celebrate this.
They had to kind of see the old legs.
They're saying, not to interrupt you too.
They're saying they've got thousands of people already basically lined up
that they are going to execute now that this has been passed.
And if here's the thing, you know you're in a public relations image battle,
why would you do something like this?
Why would you?
Now explain the scenario for me and maybe some other people.
So what is this end up doing?
Like they're celebrating?
It's an ethnicity specific law.
So it'd be like, okay, so like if a white man kills a white man,
trial, jail, whatever, if a black man kills a white man, black man gets killed.
You see what I'm saying?
That's a type of fun, you know, secular liberal law that we have here.
That makes sense to you.
Yeah, it is pretty dark.
But you know, you just see it, these people don't care.
They're detached from reality.
So I mean, for them, if it doesn't affect them, they're like, well, who cares?
Right, and it's also like we talked to our guests that we had on Nate Collins,
also the ultra orthodox faction that all these people represent.
And they also, they don't have to serve in the military.
Yeah, they get kickbacks.
It's all of it and it's just, it's really, it's really a sickening faction.
Yeah, we had an Israeli citizen on our show probably a couple of weeks ago and he kind of runs
us through kind of how Israel is structured.
And it really is like Drex is talking about the ruling class.
There's a ruling class and the ruling class is like these ultra orthodox,
like super conservative religious sects.
And it's super rich, but they have broke.
Yeah, they're able to go to, they don't have to pay taxes.
They get what stipends or something like that.
Yeah, pretty much the rest of the issue, they pay for money.
That's literally what he said.
It would be like if all the people, homeless people in America were to be like the ruling class.
This is how he, this isn't my words.
This is how he equated it to where they're going around begging and they're supposed to be
superior to the average person who's worked.
And we just take a look at that and people around the world are going to reject that and hate
that. That's why we played that clip.
Let's go ahead and go to clip three.
And I wanted to have a robust discussion with you on this.
Let's talk about it for the next 15 minutes or so.
So we've got these robot security droids, these like spider dogs.
And apparently it's like half the cost to employ them versus a traditional security
company. Your homeless person in Atlanta, you get rolled up on by one of these.
And that's straight out of black mirror.
Yeah, it's robot waving at you.
It's terrifying, bro.
I hate this so much.
Wow, that's capitalism now.
Coming to a city near you.
Seriously, halt citizen, halt citizen.
Did you pay walking fee citizen?
You'll have to pay your carbon credit.
Wait till they strap a gun on it.
That's what I said too.
Absolutely.
That's when it becomes really scary.
Yeah, and you're going to see that.
We're going to see this is a whole new era of unprecedented stuff because this technology,
yeah, we watched the Boston Dynamics robot 15 years ago or whatever.
This is now mass produced, mass accessible.
They're going to be trying to put this in all sorts of various applications.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, they are.
Okay, so as an engineer, as an engineer, I look at this two ways because I'm also in media,
but I'm also behind the scenes in technology.
And I'm seeing advancements and things where it is useful for the applications.
So it's very hard for me to look at these situations and paint it all black, right?
There is a part of me that is afraid of, they're not being checks and balances to some of
this stuff to where it's like, how do you determine what's right from wrong?
And the AI has to determine that.
Now that's based off of human input, but the part that I see specifically that is actually
useful for the average person is when we talk about specific repetitive motion stuff.
And this is just technology that goes in manufacturing.
Now, you and I disagree sometimes on this about AI replacing jobs,
those types of things.
You can give your standpoint on that real quick before I kind of continue.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, it's just a, they're building a grid where eventually they're not going to need
as many people and then kind of everything we see is a consequence of that.
These resource wars, these deep population efforts, like mass migration everywhere.
It's really an effort to collapse human society because they want 500 million people and they
want some sort of technological grid that they run.
Now, I think technology is great and if it's true power to the people,
human supremacist view where everyone gets access to it equally,
I think that would be awesome, but you look at these people, talk about it.
And they're like, yeah, like we want intelligence to be sold basically on a meter,
like electricity or water or something like that.
And what that means, there's going to be someone with a million times the ability that you have.
Okay, so let me clarify something.
So technology is only good depending on how it's implemented and who's behind the implementation.
Sure, like a knife doesn't kill anybody.
The person with a knife killer, right?
So you get to a scenario where I see there being a light at the end of the tunnel.
Here's the thing about manufacturing and some of the things like,
there have been a lot of job replacements across America, specifically in manufacturing.
Right.
And the thing is is when you look at a piece of technology,
it takes away some of the ergonomics and the pain that happens when an operator has to do
a task, a repetitive task specifically.
So you just a key example, not that you're up to.
You talked to me on the gray area of the show we do Thursday and Sunday at 730 to 1030 PM.
You talked to me on the gray area about working at a specific job.
I won't say exactly what it is, but this bag gets passed in front of this very bright light.
Yeah, okay, go into that.
So let me clarify, because not all jobs are good jobs for humans.
There's certain things that like you would want a robot or something to take over that,
because it's actually doing harm to that person.
So what he's talking about, there are bags and those bags, you have to screen them to make sure
there's nothing inside of this particular matter inside of this bag.
And there's a super bright white light and there's bags moving across.
And imagine sitting in that chair for eight hours a shift.
You get like 30 minutes and you're sitting there staring at this bright light and you can't
take your face off of looking at that otherwise you're going to be in trouble.
And that bag is, it's not just one bag, there's thousands of bags moving across your screen.
Now you have vision systems that we're trying to implement to replace that person so that they
can go do something else instead of having to sit there and be miserable.
And that sounds great.
Where the problem is, and this is where I agree with you, is what do we do when you get to a point
where there's not enough jobs and there's more robots that have taken over those positions?
Because that can happen in a scenario.
Our problem is, is we haven't come up with systems where we kind of encourage humans to go do
the things that they're supposed to do or some type of UBI, which again, everyone's going to call
me socialist, but we've got enough resources to be able to help people out.
Humans were never designed to be sitting in a four by four square moving pieces over and over
and over again, repetitive motion. That's where the robot is supposed to step in.
I don't want AI to take over people's creativity. We've got to give people an ability to even do
something else. And that's also the problem here, right?
Yeah, you know, I would agree it's a real double-edged sword type of scenario.
And the thing is, it's going to take them 40 to 50 years to have a robot that can crawl under
your house and do your plumbing. It's going to take them the same for like high tech, like
electrician work, all these things. The real job loss that we're going to see that we're already
starting to see, Tim, is the white collar. It's the white collar, it's the tech job.
That's actually the biggest sector that's being affected because robotics haven't been
able to mimic human motion quite yet. The finger has like fingers have like
three thousand joints or whatever, like in the hand, like access and mobility.
The access and mobility of your 100% correct about that. So what you're seeing first is the white
collar jobs. Specifically, you've got coders that are in in jeopardy, a lot of data analysis,
a lot of people who are kind of doing clerk style work. We're now the AI can do that.
Yeah, that is a real risk. And the problem is is they don't have
every generation, or let's say every few hundred years, we go through a transition like this.
But this one is new industrial revolution, when agriculture equipment was invented,
there were a ton of farmers doing manual labor jobs. What ended up happening is you displaced,
and there was a lot of pain early on to say, well, what do I do if I don't know how to farm?
Where do I go, right? It took a transition period for that person to go from doing that,
and go into something like manufacturing where it's still required people.
And the thing that's really crazy about the time we live in are these giant jumps,
like from Bronze Age to Iron Age to Steel Age to Industrial Revolution to contemporary space
stage where we're at today. It's just gotten shorter and shorter and shorter and shorter.
And now everything we see coming out is compounding upon itself. It's like the saying is,
we stand on the shoulders of giants, that's true. Eventually, the real thing that we're all
worried about with this technology is what happens when the knife has a will of its own.
What happens? The thing decides that it doesn't want to do the work of its masters anymore.
No, and I totally get that perspective. And let me clarify for everybody listening. I'm not pro,
like let's go and replace a bunch of people's jobs with robots.
You're really honest. But I am being realistic because I'm in the forefront. I see people being
replaced because they shouldn't be lifting 800 pound items and you've got a robot that's now
doing that particular task. It's not really 800. I'm exaggerating. It's more like 80 pounds,
but it's still the same concepts. I'm not pro that. The problem is as we are getting into a transition
to where you're going to see the jobs are being removed quicker than they can be replaced and
moved into a different skill set. That's the problem. It's really dangerous to have
much people unemployed and like getting into climbing economy already that's trying to replace
them. I want to show clip four because here's the thing. I don't think robot should imitate
human form. I think that should be legal, but I'm not against applications like this. Let's go to
clip four. This is real. Look at that. I mean, a firefighter is dangerous. No, 100%. Look,
how cool this is. It is cool. I've been seeing this as well. And see with that, you get one less
person. I say, I have the smoke exposure. You can get closer to the fire to the colds without
getting burned. Like that, that's great. And I love that. That's going to save the application.
That's as good as it can get you and I are on ingredients on this one.
The problem is, is do we have a lot of faith with the adults in the room, right?
Right. To make the right decisions when it comes to rolling out this technology and giving people
on our alternative. At this point, I don't trust anybody who's in these systems because they're
showing how they're betraying the American people time after time after time after time.
And when you rely on them to make a good decision in a vacuum where no one is there watching them,
somehow these people are making the right decision.
The homeless guy is going to do my taxes. I trust him. That's basically what we have with the
government. And when you look at our government at large, the main issue, as a kid, as a young
libertarian, okay? When I was a little boy, a little fan of Ron Paul and all of that back in
the day, okay? When I'm a young libertarian, I'm like, hey, you know, I'm losing my train of
thought here. When I'm a young libertarian, I'm like, okay, there should be less regulations
these companies should be able to do what they want. So we can have innovation in science and
technology. What I realize now is there's two little regulation on the things that matter.
And it's way too much regulation on the things that are totally irrelevant and just keep small
business. Absolutely right. And one of the areas that we have to look at specifically is AI.
AI regulation is severely behind the ball in terms of catching up with the tech.
10 years, no, no, no regulation. That's what that's the law that passed literally.
Yeah, and the AI companies have their own lobbies just like the military industrial complex.
So they go in there, they're like, well, we want less regulations. That way we can make more money.
Check it out, right? Here's the thing about AI right now. You know what I think should be banned
completely? You shouldn't be able to take a person that exists in real life and be able to clone
that person on AI unless that person is the one doing the action or you have specific rights
to yourself. Oh, you mean like if you come with a logo and you get a copyrighted, I can't
steal that but I can steal your entire image. Yeah, isn't that isn't that great? It's a new way
for scammers. Look, I think everybody understands right now. It's getting crazy scary to be able to
tell the difference between what's real and what's not. You get a phone call and it sounds like
somebody talking to you. It's not I am a robot. You know, and this was one of those things where
the technology was intended to be good, right? And we have bad actors that are doing things with
that. Remember, maybe you didn't see these, but it used to be on YouTube. They kind of crack down
on this. There used to be AI ads of like Joe Rogan. Oh, yeah. On Rumble. Oh, yeah. And I was like,
wait, I fell for it for some like, wait, but that sounds weird. Now they're getting. Now they're
getting it. It is fraud, but now they're getting to the point where it's so good guys that you're
not going to be able to tell with like 11 labs or some of these other technologies where they're
cloning people's voices. It's almost like for like, yeah. And I had such a good one of my dad made
on 11 labs like a year plus ago. And it's only just gotten so much better, so much better, so much
better. Yep. This is the world we live in guys. It really is sci-fi. We're getting ushered into
that age. There's nothing from it. And the last thing I'll say on this is these AI models,
they are trained to basically continue to evolve themselves at the same time with less and less
human input. Right. So again, it's like that exponential curve and the compounding effect as
the AI gets smarter, it knows how to fix its gaps. And the human doesn't have to step in.
I mean, it's eventually going to get to AGI. We'll see how that happens. We say we're not that far,
but we might be closer than we think. It's very human impulse to think of everything as linear
and as like following like a constant gradient. But in reality, everything that we're talking
about here is exponential, just like with the time development of the technology, the rapid
advancements we've seen over the last century, over the last decade, really. But we have to speak
about these things and people in positions of power, especially Congress, need to step up to the
plate and do the job that we ask them to do and protect us along the way. Technology when it's
guided in the right way and it's got the right barriers, the right protections can be a net
positive for society, or it can be a negative when we have people who are corrupt, just wanting to
grab a bag and screw over the American person. That's the problem. And that's our, that's the
systemic problem that is. That's on this show. That's what we see in every sector and we
rail against it. And it's our job to get involved in the political process, especially after Trump
being gone. It's going to be a whole new world. So if you're passionate about AI regulation,
and digital bill of rights, going forward and having an actual future for humanity,
where we utilize these things instead of being used by them, we're the people you want to see.
Rex Jones, 10 tokens. Yeah, man. And anybody who's dealing with any job loss due to AI,
yes, we deeply sincerely feel free. We're sorry about that. I've had a lot of friends, a lot of
people that have been dealing with this. It has to get worse before it gets better. But there is
some light at the end of the tunnel. We have people that are starting to step up and actually start
making those those changes to the law specifically. So absolutely. We'll be right back.
You're going to want to stay with us. We're going to have Simon Dixon on at the start of the
next hour for an entire hour, leading Bitcoin expert early adopter geopolitical analyst.
You're going to want to stay tuned. We got big news in the Charlie Kirk case. What is going on
there? It's breaking. Okay, we heard about this this morning. You guys want to listen up.
So we've got an article here that says the bullet used to kill him did not match the rifle
used by Tyler Robbins. That is a big thing. Go figure. Go figure. Right. I hunt with a 308.
Okay, 308 six is a bigger round than 308. When I shoot through a deer like it explodes out
the other. And you've been talking about this since day one, you were like there's no way that
that bullet could have been the same bullet that killed him. And we had a debate with the
friend of ours and the friend of ours was like, well, bullet could bounce around, bullet could
do this. That other ballistics, I'm like, it's a big round. He's not a man of steel. The doctor
claimed that he was a man of steel and that his neck stopped the bullet. He's not Superman.
He's not Superman. Yeah, you know, so let's go ahead and read this article. Yeah, sure.
In the killing of Charlie Kirk, defense lawyers for Tyler Robinson claim the bullet did not match
the alleged rifle. They cite DNA complexities as well and incomplete forensic data while seeking
delay, raising doubts over key prosecution evidence in a new court filing on Tuesday, March 31st,
defense attorneys for Tyler Robinson, the accused who allegedly killed conservative
influencer Charlie Kirk have claimed that the Bureau of the ATF was unable to match the bullet
recover during the autopsy to the rifle allegedly used by Robinson stating that the recovered
weapon was a Mauser model 98 308 six caliber rifle. The defense lawyer stated the ATF
analyst could not conclusively identify the bullet fragment so they didn't even have it.
So the guy gets shot. There's no exit wound on camera. Blood doesn't spray out the back of
his body. Lord forbid, God, I have mercy. It's just so horrible. We have talked about this so
callously, but we're talking about a criminal case that's captivated the nation, a very prominent
political assassination at the end of the day here. Yeah, and here's the thing. I think everybody
knew there was something fishy going on behind the scenes, all the evidence, all the things.
And my issue was specifically all types of narratives were coming out. You had deliberate,
deliberate misinformation, misinformation, and I used to like old Candace, but the new Candace
was doing things like Fort Watuka Wakahaka. Fort Hawk tour. Yeah, and it's like she's talking
about like secret meetings and maybe somebody popped out of a suit like Ninja Turtle or the mic
exploded. And there's like a bomb in the lapelmiking stuff. And you told me when I was like, no,
no, no, no, I'm going to watch all of Candace's episodes for this month so that I can know that I
could say confidently that I know it's BS because people when I came out against the narrative on
Twitter, but we did really people were like, you don't need to know what she's saying before you
criticize. And I was like, well, okay, I listened to it. Mitch Snow is this guy who's involved in
like border military operations like 30 years ago. He supposedly claims that he uncovered evidence
that the military was working with the cartel, specifically a photo of some sort of military
leader with a cartel member on some sort of tunnel around the border. He makes this claim that
this hurt his military service somehow. He comes back like 30 years later to the day, to the base
in 12 kernels and Erica Kirk and everyone's there. And my ex-wife had eyes like those I've never
had. And it's just like, like we're not in a quentin 13th movie. Okay, like I'm sorry.
Well, and the biggest problem is if you got people with big enough platforms coming out with stories,
it takes away from the main narrative and the real stuff that we do question it. And that's the
thing is like we don't buy the official narrative. We have the article right here. The official
narrative is a lie, right? But that doesn't mean we believe in the ninja turtle. Yes. And then
here's the thing. It doesn't take rocket science to see like things were not adding up. And
specifically around the text messages. If you guys yes, if you guys recall and we'll get these
in order too specifically because Rex and I are going to read this out for you guys.
I'll get it done. Basically, there were text messages that apparently came out between
Tyler Robinson and his roommate. Now apparently they had this lovers quarrel.
I think his roommate was transgender if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know, maybe a furry or something. And there were these text messages that came out.
Now we're going to read some of these text messages and we're going to see what you guys
think about them because we're like, there's no way that this was a real exchange and we had
some boomers. I think it starts here first with the September 10th. Yeah. And then we got the
second one under. We got delete this exchange. We got don't talk to the media please and then a
bit over a week. We'll just read it like that. And it doesn't really matter if it gets a little
jumble. Well, so let's start here with drop weight. Yeah, for sure. So this is supposedly the
conversation between the assassin and his lover. Okay. And this reads like it's scripted like
it's written by like a middle-aged man pretending to be AI, some sort of Intel officer at the FBI
or CIA, whatever it is. Drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard.
What? You're joking, right? I'm still little came I love, but I'm stuck in
arm for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I got to grab
my rifle still. To be honest, I'd hope to keep the secret to that diet of old age.
You're killing Charlie. Oh, it's going to be a secret until I die of old age that I climbed on
a roof and I killed the most prominent person in conservative media. I just fought like this.
This can't be real. And also 20 year olds don't talk like this. No, no, it's okay.
Where's the raise? Where's the note cap? I lined him out. I lined him out.
What a good one. They missed that one. Yeah, all right. Let's keep reading.
Yeah, you weren't the one who killed it. Who did it, right? I'm sorry. I thought they caught the person.
Just let's read off. Yeah, okay. Yeah, thank you. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude that
then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from the drop point.
Oh, the drop point of all these military cars shortly after. But most of the side of town,
it got locked down. It's quiet almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering.
Why? Why did I do it? Yeah, I had enough of his hatred. Come on, man. Come on, bro.
I had enough of his hatred. It's totally fake. Some hate can't be negotiated out.
If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I would have left no evidence going to attempt to retrieve
it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it. Okay, so
hold on. He does the act. Then he puts his rifle in the bushes. Then he's coming back to get his
rifle later. Why wouldn't you just leave? That's what I'm saying. No, it makes sense.
And not even just that, right? Everybody who's watched like any crime TV show knows you don't leave
a clear trail for law enforcement to be able to. I was here at this time. I'm hiding
further from the cops. Go ahead, guys. I did this. This was the weapon. This was the bullet. I
used this is my area code of where I live. I am the person who did it. That's pretty much what these
sex messages did. This is my premeditated motivation for doing it. Well, and so like again,
we can clearly definitively say when we saw these text messages Rex and I as well as the rest of
you guys were like, there's no way this story is true. And it's just beautiful, beautiful to see
that they're still following through on this because I thought they were going to let this one go
just like Trump's assassination attempt. Well, they're trying to, but ultimately, I mean, it just
shows how massive Charlie Kirk was and it is influenced just on the world of America in general.
You can't really make this die just because there's so many hours of Charlie on tape recently
talking about everything that's going on in the world right now. In the reason why people call
this into question is because Charlie was very passionately anti-war incredibly pro-Israel as well,
but very passionately anti-war. And he made a lot of statements talking about the October 7th
stand down like we've talked about the Israeli citizen interview we did earlier. We've heard about
that from other people like they're mad about that as well. And he had all these legitimate questions
and oh, he doesn't get to ask questions anymore. And he was speaking about out against Iran,
he was speaking about foreign entanglement. And here's the thing. They knew Charlie was a threat.
He galvanized the youth and just look at TPUSA, right? The amount of offices that they had across
the United States and the colleges that they were going to, that is a ton of influence.
And when you can influence a young generation into a narrative which we support of the no-new wars,
the conflicts, the industrial complex sees you as a threat for those things.
Yeah, no, absolutely. And what you have with TPUSA is you have, I think they have a thousand
campaign offices and many thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of affiliated volunteers or employees.
You have a ready-made political campaigning system that is targeted towards young people that
young people accept and love in US legitimate. So you take the brain out of that and you do a
brain transplant into it. That's pretty much the ideal scenario. So you can't look at the Charlie
Kirk thing and go, well, there's absolutely no motive to take him out besides someone that's
mad about him not liking trans people. Yes, there's tons of reasons why you would do so.
And then remember, before, I guess the night before he was assassinated, there were meetings that
were going on. He was getting angry. You can correct me in from earlier on. Earlier on.
Months before, but he wasn't okay. There were other stuff happening in motion constantly.
In motion constantly. So you're right also. And there were people that were unhappy with what he
was doing specifically and what he was speaking out against. Now, we don't know exactly who's behind
this. I'm seeing people say, well, it could have been the Israelis. It could have been some people.
I could have been easily private corporate interest as well. I mean, how many shows do we watch?
I think it was like yellowstone or something where people meet in the big tower.
We're going to take the billion out of company over. But that is real, right? But it doesn't happen
at like a military base with 12 kernels in the wife and they plot the assassination attempt.
These decisions are made quietly. But one thing that I can't get behind and I've seen
this narrative come out so much is that Erica Kirk is behind the assassination attempt.
Like, come on. That one kind of rubbed me the wrong way because I'm like, she's married to
this man has two kids and you can see their life prior to this. They were happily married.
You could see them in love. Sure. I mean, people criticize her. She's acting a little weird. I say
she's a widow. I'm not really going to try to attack that ship. I don't think it's worth it.
You can just criticize things based on facts and evidence alone, right? And there's more
than enough of that here. But here's the thing. You have people doing the Charlie Kirk show right
now. The Charlie Kirk show with the same name talking about the Iran war and like a neutral
deposit of context. Well, and what are you going to do? You're going to let his name die. You're
going to let the whole operation die. Change the show. Change the name. If my dad died,
it's not the Alex Jones show. You think so? Yeah. Well, here's what I'm thinking, right?
Like, I understand like some people like, well, she's grifting off of her husband's death and
X Y Z. Here's the house to feed his wife. That's what I was literally about to say. You can't
criticize. She's got to be able to find a way to make money for her family because that was what
Charlie was doing. And she needs to step into the place as the head of the house now. Yeah.
So it's not like she's just going to go back and do a nine to five guys. Like she's got to find
a new way. So of course, you know, she's having conversations and there's ways that they're
going to do in order to continue and they have a ton of people on payroll by the way.
You got Druski up there. Oh, the Druski. What did you think about that? By the way, we haven't
talked about that. So when he did, when he did the NASCAR thing, I genuinely did recognize
my thought. I was just like a fat white person with the beard. This is highly offensive, but hey,
you know what? I've said that Kanye doing the Hitler thing is art. I can't call that not art as
well. Yeah. I mean, the joke was funny, but I mean, again, it's who you pick. I'm a free speech
absolutist. I can't be a hypocrite. If you're mad at me right now for saying that, like I just,
I can't hold two positions that are contrary to each other. Like I endorse Alex Stein crashing out.
I have to endorse Druski crashing out. Those are the rules. And here's the thing.
As a black person, a lot of black people are not going to appreciate me saying this,
but again, I have to be ideologically consistent. Now, I'm not saying people need to go out and
start doing this, but because he is doing light face, it does bring a case where like is black face
okay? Like we can't just say one side is, here's the thing. And I'll give a little bit of
a little argument. I would say because of the history that goes along with the black face,
that makes it cool. It does. It does make a little bit different. And all I'm just trying to say
is like within a vacuum, I don't support why would I support this? I don't support people
going out and doing black face. It is highly offensive. But we do support free speech.
Yeah. So here's the thing we can look at someone doing this something and say this is disgusting
whatever. But at the end of the day, it's a part of our society. And in a society where you can do
that, it's a lot better than a cop showing up to your house with a gun because of what you did
on social media. So I'm not participating in it, but I do endorse it as free. But we look at the
whole thing and just getting back to Eric Kirk in general, you have someone like her and they
essentially plug her in because she's the wife of Charlie Kirk. She's the only one that feasibly
could have the street cred to run the operation and keep it as it is. But she's not running anything,
like she's controlled. There's tons of people, there's tons of money, there's things that
keep the operation afloat. There's everything that we don't see. So it's hard to make a value
judgment based off of that. I want to go to the clip number five because you've talked to me a lot
about the space age weaponry and stuff like that. Have you heard about the discombobulator?
No, discombobulate. Now we're getting into fantasy. So there were rumors that we use the so-called
discombobulator on the Venezuelans. Special forces came in, there was a report. It looked like it
had been written by the CIA, but it's why they couldn't find a better name. I like it.
There's a lot of words discombobulator.
Yeah, but let's go ahead and roll the clip.
What have you heard about the discombobulator because I hadn't heard anything
than that much detail since Halperin said it made everybody yak.
You know, there's a lot of directed energy weapons that we've had for a while and we've tested
them. There's some that can make you feel heat. You know, there's sound waves that can make you
just freak out and discombobulate you. What exactly they're using and what was used in Venezuela has
not been publicly announced? It's just one of those things that we have that makes it a big advantage
because when you are going into a place where the enemy knows where you're coming, you don't want
to lead with your face. You know, that's a cardinal rule of door kicking operations. Have
something in front of you for that. So that's why you throw flashbangs in a room.
This is a directed energy flashbang to blow everybody's mind and hopefully get our guys in
and safely back out. Yeah, I learned that in boxing. They couldn't, I'm saying like they couldn't
find a better name than discombobulator. Well, I like that Fox News. It's just like you're like a
boomer and like Galveston, Texas and you turn on the TV and it's just Jesse Waters and this guy
talking about discombobulators. It's just like explosion footage. Was drone strike footage
over and over and over again. That's a big one. That's a good one. They love their war footage.
That's what they do for the Fox News. Fox News, man, it's become a parody of itself.
Well, and just what a time to be alive that we have discombobulators and only farms and just
all types of new stuff. And I'm like, how do I take these things serious anymore?
Like, so the whole point of that technology, it's basically like almost like a flashbang is the way
that. You ever heard of like Havana syndrome? No, we're like, it's like this pseudo thing,
but apparently it may be real. We're like, you get like waves to match you and it like makes you sick,
the lyrics. Okay, okay. It starts like that. So yeah, like I read about these weapons like 20
years ago in books that guests would give me here on the show and they've had things like this
forever. A lot of these things that don't have like a big panel on a truck and then they direct
the panel at the crowd of people, a lot of crowd control. There's like minor and major versions
of different frequencies that you can use. Sounds pretty fun, right? Do you think we just like
the people creating weapons that like Lockheed and Raytheon are just like watching movies and
they're like, that's a good idea. I got an idea. I mean, that's probably how it works, right?
Like as an engineer, you see a system like, yeah, maybe there's a good concept there and maybe
we could engineer something like that similar to happen. I mean, I think back to G.I. Joe,
I've always thought that this was terrifying, but a really cool idea of the rods from God,
the tungsten rods, right? You can drop in from space and do the kinetic damage without having
the fallout of a nuclear weapon. Wow, I bet you they come out with something like that.
Oh, I think we already have stuff like that up there in orbit. It's pretty terrifying to think about.
Let's talk about who I'm seeing. Massey on glyphosate. Yes, let's talk about that.
glyphosate clip.
One of the things in the farm bill, I'm still trying to get out of it,
was successful in getting this out of prior bills, is immunity for a German company called
Bayer that makes glyphosate. This is not to grant farmers immunity. This is to grant the
corporation immunity if they give farmers, if farmers contract a form of cancer or non-hodge
insulin phoma from this chemical, if this makes it into the farm bill, it won't be able,
you won't be able to sue for that. Now, I know they're dealing with some similar legislation
at the state level. You know, I learned a lot about this from you because I had no idea that
this was an issue, and maybe you can just recap like why glyphosate is so dangerous for us.
Sure, and I'll go ahead and start doing that by giving one of the counter arguments people will go,
it's only used on 3% of the wheat to dry it, bro. Actually, that's not true. It's used on the
third of all American fields for wheat control. We used to use about 100 million or 80 million pounds
of it. We now use 280 million pounds of it a year. It's ubiquitous in the food supply. 95 to 97
percent of all corn is roundup ready. That means it's made to take the pest aside while everything
else dies. Spoil alert that gets into your body as well. Glyphosate is so dangerous because it's an
amino acid analog of the amino acid called glycine, which is used to make all the collagen in your
body. So there's been a prevalent health theory. And this has kind of come out over time that
it has a potential to replace that positive amino acid, which is essential for you to have in your
body over time, leading to cell senescence and eventually possibly speculating cancer. I mean,
not even speculating RFK junior went to court against Monsanto and won a $270 million lawsuit
proving it caused non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. That means it's carcinogenic. And if it's carcinogenic
causes one cancer, it causes all the other ones as well. Wow. Wow. And I'm just thinking about it
because I'm seeing a lot of people even at our age group and young 30s starting the cancer
rates are spiking. And it's specifically because of what we're putting in our bodies. I had a friend
just last year. She's younger than me. She had cancer in her neck. I'm like,
what? Like how are we getting to that point? Now, I thought, you know, RFK was supposed to come in
and he was supposed to like open the cabin and up and just start tearing out all the bad
people for national security. Go ahead. So what do you think happened because I was super
excited. The reason this is one of the reasons why I ran on Trump because he was bringing in RFK
and I loved what he was saying. He was like, we're going to get these chemicals out of your food.
We're going to we're going to make sure Americans can eat healthy. And now I see more missiles
than I see traction on these types of things. Yeah. And they tell us that, oh, it's too crazy to
get the life of state out. We have to have 50 different flavors and chips at the gas station.
We can never do that. We can never subsidize a program to get the poison out of your food.
Oh, another quarter trillion for the war. It's just fine. And that's the thing. It's so crazy.
It's just why wouldn't you resign at this point, especially if you're one of these people
like RFK. We're like, this is literally he fought for a decade on this issue and look at it now.
Pretty crazy. You know what he said? We need more herbicide. Is that what he said to it?
If you would. Yeah, we love it. I hope this isn't true.
Liberal. Yeah, we need more herbicide production. Stunning as followers. I mean, yeah, I mean,
war is peace guys. You didn't hear that. You can get the memo. Let's go ahead and go to clip 8.
Really quick to ring out this segment because here's the thing, okay? We've talked about the
American military and maybe their limitations a little bit. We got big problems because we got
real elites. Okay, we got real elite shock troops training out in North Korea. Let's go ahead and
show people clip number 8.
Hey, I wouldn't want to mess with him on the battlefield. Watch this coming.
Oh my God. They're driving nails into the board. Look at that. That's some kung fu stuff right
there. Now, you know, this looks what? No way. Yeah, that's going to stop a bullet, guys.
All right, watch this. Okay, that's real. Go back to that. We got to show that again.
This is not a joke, guys. Grenade! Talk about jumping on the clamor for your boys.
Grenade! Oh, man. Okay, maybe you're having a little bit of rough day.
Maybe I haven't had your coffee yet. You got a long drive ahead of you. At least you're not in
North Korean in a PR video losing your frontal cortex. A pile of bricks.
Here's the thing. That's all for show. I mean, come on now. Guys just like,
in front of you, you're just going to be like, you're dead. So I don't know why they do these
things. It's probably theatrics. Maybe it's just deep in that in the culture.
India, Pakistan, they have that thing on their border where they literally, they do like a dance
off where it's like a martial display. Have you ever seen this? No, I have.
We got just a little bit of time. The crew are absolute wizards. If you can find that, if we
get close out with that, yeah, they do it because it's a tribal thing of like, this is our border,
this is our culture, this is our border, this is our culture, FUFU. So no guns is just a dance off.
They have guns, but they're not pointing them at each other. They're like, it's kind of like a
rooster battle. Like they're kind of like stepping like, it's like an intimidation thing,
but we see this all around the world. Here's the thing. The Taliban, when they take our military
equipment, they do stuff as well. ISIS has the jungle gym and all of that. We've exported our
culture to people. So now they're trying to make their own Hollywood movies as well. Yeah,
they are trying to make their own Hollywood movies now. I mean, look, North Korea is involved in
Ukraine now. They're still there, right? They're still dying. I'm not sure, but they were
involved heavily. They were involved heavily, but we see these things. Look, I guess you,
there it is. What is going on here? And this is how they do the border dispute.
This is how they kind of, Chris made it, I guess it would be the kind of good
number creature to describe it. But yeah, we got discussion,
side story. We got a full discussion coming up the next hour with the great Simon Dixon who's
about to join us. We're looking forward to that. You guys want to stay with us for the most
hard-hitting, cutting-edge geopolitical analysis, aren't you excited?
Yeah, I'm very excited. Simon's going to give you guys insider information into the
financial industrial complex. He's going to explain everything that happens behind the Iran
situation, who's making money, what it looks like behind closed doors. He's a phenomenal guest.
We're going to be looking forward to having him on. You guys don't want to go anywhere. You're
going to want to stay tuned. We will be back after the break.
I am Rex Jones and I'm here today to tell you we've got the best geopolitical information
in the entire world to deliver you right now. We're going to get into it right now with our
guests. I'm in Dixon, Tim Tompkins, my co-host here, figuring out today. Simon, how are you doing?
I'm awesome. Congratulations on the new show and really happy to be here.
Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate it. Yeah, we had you on the great area earlier. Fantastic
show. Everybody loved it. And I was like, we got to get him on info or as we got to make this
happen. So I think it was the best interview we've ever done on the information, on the
fact side of it, out of like me learning the most. And that's high praise. I know, but I want to
give it to you. And that's why we had to deliver it to other people. We're men of our words. We
just wanted to get you on. So let's just get started because there's a lot that people don't know
about you, Simon. And I want to talk specifically before we go into more other details about your
personal history and some of the things that's led you to the positions where you're at now.
Because your story about Wall Street and all the things is something that needs to be heard.
So can you just walk us through a high level overview of that of your history?
Yes, sure. I mean, I've done nothing but obsess over the topic of money and who benefits
from the creation of money for the last 25 years. My journey started when my father lost his entire
retirement in the .com boom and boss. So 25 years ago and he worked his whole life, lost it all
in the market and asked me to figure out where it went. So that kind of kicked off an obsession.
Trying to figure it out at university, did like a master's in economics, still didn't get the
answers. So I tried to get into the investment bank and figure out how money really worked.
Got a job as a tea boy, ended up as a stop broker, figured out the, all right, we're here just to
sell stocks. It doesn't matter whether it's wrong or right. Ended up in the city of London,
work as a market maker, realized that our job is to manipulate the prices of shares. And when we
have institutional traders, our job is to find the retail to dump it onto. I then started working
in corporate finance at the investment bank and realized this whole process of financializing
and securitizing companies means that you end up becoming a cog in a wheel of what I call a
financial industrial complex. And in fact, finances used for subordination, almost like a black
metal leverage operation like we've seen. And also the war is a racket. And that, you know,
often when you're writing business plans around where war zones are going to be, where war zones
aren't going to be, it turns out that these financial institutions have a significant
degree of influence in it. So that was my corporate career.
Now you said something really powerful there. And I want to, before you go further, I want to talk
specifically about your experience because there is an experience that the average American,
or not even just American people around the world know about how financial systems work.
But then you were deeply embedded in seeing how things operate behind the scene.
So I don't like curtain behind the curtain.
You're the wizard of art. Yeah, that's what Rex and I want to understand specifically
and the average person. What's really happening behind scenes that people misunderstand?
Yeah. So I talked about this concept of a financial industrial complex. And it consists of
different institutions that plug together in order to turn all companies and all investors into
as much subordination as they possibly can. So firstly, we all know that banks, retail banks,
their wizard of art's skill is that they get to create fear currency. So every time they issue
alone, they actually create new money, new fear currency. The vast majority of fear currency is
created by a retail bank. The problem is it has interest on top to be repaid. And so when you
want to, when you need to repay that interest, you either invest it in a productive asset that goes
up in value or you find someone else to take on the debt. Effectively, retail banking is a
debt-based Ponzi scheme. And because it's a Ponzi scheme, it is guaranteed by the central bank.
So the banks take the risk. They get to create the fear currency. They get the cheapest interest
rates. And then they're able to effectively turn every individual into a collateralized debt
obligation. Every company into a financialized and securitized debt dependence subordinated
product, as it were, where they can control board seats and then inflict policy as a portfolio.
And of course, the end game is to bail out everything onto the government. And so the government
is simply a piggy bank for this corporate interest that they're building into products.
They control fear currency. And then they manage a portfolio in order to effectively control all
the assets, the gold, the hard assets, the shares, the debt, the equity, the derivatives.
And this whole complex is built together. But the end game is to turn every individual into
a debt product, turn every corporation into an equity that you can borrow against so you have more
debt. Therefore, you become subordinate to. And every government is to dump all of the debt on
but have a facade that they're in charge. And so most people think they're voting between left
and right. And there's a president making decisions. In reality, they answer to their lobbies and
the lobbies are all part of this financial, industrial complex. And it's a pay-to-play auction
prostitute system where effectively their job is to create a narrative on in front of what they're
doing for their lobbies. But in the end of that cycle, because it is a Ponzi scheme,
you effectively end up with all the debt on the government. And then you completely assets
for the country. And then you use war as a mechanism for doing a global reset. And you start to
hedge your next location. Let me effectively how the system works. Let me ask you about that global
reset because the thing that really enlightened me when we had you on is I was asking you the question
of like, why would Trump do these things? Why would he spend this money? Why would he potentially
go to war? It doesn't make sense. It just degrades American power. But you explained to me quite
eloquently how really he's ushering in the multi-polar world and there are bigger forces at work.
So what's the runway for this current failed fraudulent system? Like you say, how are they,
like me and Tim have talked about many times in the gray area? How are they going to roll all that
debt up? What's the new financial system going to be?
Yeah, well, my transition here is so if you think about it, you had these constructs were
created in the Dutch Empire. So you had Dutch East India Company, the corporate interest. You had
the Dutch Central Bank which created the debt-based Ponzi scheme. And then you had the Dutch government
through the creation of the bond market, which was to assume all the debt. Eventually they built
a military force and they ended up getting very, very inefficient and then outsourcing their
ship making and naval fleet technology to the Brits. So then the Brits kind of ended up with
the Bank of England, the British East India Company. And the government ended up being bankrupted.
And so you had that construct. Then the transition happened to the American Empire. So you had
a couple of central banks. Then you had the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve set up the
debt-based Ponzi scheme. And effectively it was enforced by the fact that America had a massive
manufacturing base. And because it had the manufacturing base, which previously the Brits had,
which previously the Dutch had, you enter into a couple of wars and America supplied all the
weapons, manufactured all the weapons, and then created financial contracts to rebuild
the rest of the world that was being destroyed by the bombs. So then you enter into a strategic
tension. You have two ideologies funded by the same sides. In fact you had three. Hitler was funded
by Wall Street. The Federal Reserve was created by Wall Street and European bankers.
The Rice Bank, the German central bank had the very same brother that was the governor of the
Federal Reserve on the German central bank. And also through the Bolshevik revolution, you also
created the Soviet Union and Communism. And so Wall Street funded all of those. So you have three
ideologies. You enter into a Cold War. You manufacture a narrative that justifies war and rolling
over if that you had the Cold War. We're taking on the commies. We are the capitalists. Meanwhile,
you're subordinating all of that debt onto the individuals and everyone's going deeper and deeper
into debt. But eventually what happened is America went bankrupt in 1971 after the Vietnamese war.
And so America defaulted on its debt by saying you can no longer convert your dollars into gold.
That was the promise after World War II. They said to everybody, take stop converting
your currency to gold. Convert it to dollars at the IMF. You'll be able to convert it to gold
with us. And so effectively in 1971 America defaulted. We created this fear currency debt
based standard. And what happened then? We started to transition the manufacturing base away from
America and over to China. So we had globalization. We had financialization being the tool because
the government debt was no longer constrained by gold. And so the debt ballooned after 1971.
And the entire American economy just became a product for the investment banks, the retail
banks, the asset managers, the central banks. Until eventually you hit the stage where we are
right now, where you don't have another country to transition to because really American European,
that Dutch and that Dutch British American thing was a continuation, but a transfer of power
through the central bank. And one thing I wanted to clarify specifically is China is trying to
step into that new power role, but not everybody completely trust China, specifically even in the
West and not even all of the Asian countries, which is why you have bricks. No, is that the second
option for the polar world because you've got America that's on one side and then you've got
bricks on the other side, right? Yes, so what you have right now is effectively this whole
economy that was built in the post-World War II era on the military industrial complex,
but got financialized and securitized by the financial industrial complex.
Let's call it Fick and Mick for simplicity. So the Fick became more powerful than the Mick,
once you had the 1971, the financialization, and the Fick only cared about profit maximization
for its portfolio of companies. And it managed to get everyone to contribute their pension,
so that they were managing everybody's assets. All the insurance premiums were being contributed.
They co-opted the education system for their portfolio. People were, the colleges became money
laundering organizations, and effectively you built this whole complex around Fick being in control.
And so once you made all those companies public and you burdened them with debt,
you created a bit of a power struggle. Effectively, the military industrial complex, their job
was to prop up the dollar. So once they exited the gold standard,
we had the assassination of King Faisal in Saudi Arabia when there was a war between Israel and the
Arab states. That led to Saudi doing an oil embargo in 1973 that led to stagflation. But it also
led to the assassination of King Faisal, then a secret club, Safari Club was set up by George
Bush, which was a network of intelligence agencies that later led to 9-11 and various other
operations. But you created the petro dollar where effectively, because you no longer had gold,
you would use the military to enforce the world onto this petro dollar. And Saudis would agree to
lend all of their dollars back to the US government. And then as long as people would accept
treasuries as collateral and people would buy those bonds and treasuries, then you entered into this
Ponzi scheme continuing to the point where we are right now, just to give you an idea of how that
works. And then we can go into breaks. The way this actually works is currently the average
interest on the US debt right now, approximately 40 trillion, approaching 40 trillion, is 3.3%.
In order to keep the Ponzi scheme alive, you have to America has to have a growth rate above 3.3%.
If you don't have a growth rate above the average cost on the debt, then you enter into the
unwinding of the cycle, which would be a recession and a depression. Every time that happens,
they need to find a new way of printing money in order to try and stimulate growth.
One of those is fund the military industrial complex, great war. But the problem is with that,
is it extracts wealth from the average American person because they end up with the debt and the
company ends up with all the profits. And so in order to keep the Ponzi alive, you have to extract
all the assets from the average person, excuse me, and the economy becomes a mechanism for rolling
over. Now you have to have growth above the average cost of the debt. What's happening right now?
In this global reset, where all energy and 50 different supply chains are being renegotiated,
the projected growth rate for America is approximately 2% this year and 1.7% next year.
At the same time, the 10-year treasury and the 30-year treasury is spiking, not as much as the
rest of the world, but as spiking up to dangerous levels, 4.5% and 5%. So now you need to roll over
$7 trillion of debt at either 4.5% or 5%. The only solution to that was what Trump tried to do. He
tried to regime change the federal reserve and enforce low-yield bonds on the short term
by effectively dumping them on Americans. So the largest foreign lender to the U.K.
to the U.S. government right now is Cayman Islands, which is the hedge funds.
So what he tried to do is he tried to force interest rates down artificially low by regime
changing the Fed. And then they could be dumped on American people and American pensions,
and you could subsidize the demonetization. What's going to happen of this program?
What's going to happen because of this action or its interaction?
Well, effectively, that's all gone wrong. So now we enter into an inflation recycle because
this wall was meant to be short. It looks like the IRGC put up a bigger resistance than anyone
imagined was possible. We're going to cover that. So now you won't get the short term rates down.
The long term rates are rising. Oil prices are going up so you've created a supply
shock and inflation. So you can't get those rates down. And growth is going to go down at the
same time as unemployment. That is an absolute disaster. I do not want to reiterate how bad
things are going to get from here. I'm not one to say humorism. I've always believed
they could keep this Ponty scheme going for quite some time. But the growth rate is going to be
significantly below the average interest rate, which means that the only solution here is to
print more money than COVID, more money than long term capital management, more money than the
global financial crisis, and experience the same economy of the 1973. Here's my issue with all
of that. Americans have been paying this bill and not just Americans around the world since 2022
and since the COVID area where he printed $6 trillion already. We saw that hit our bottom line.
And now I'm seeing these situations play out to where the oils in play people think they're
trying to play 4D chess and they don't understand that you can't control prices the same way that
you can do a lot of other things. We just say you can do whatever we want. Right. So now we look at it
like okay gas prices is one thing. You've got diesel and fertilizer. Those things play out.
And all of these inflationary costs keep stacking up for the average person.
So I really want to highlight like, what is the immediate impact to the average person outside
of just kind of these higher level breakdowns? Because people want to understand like what am I
going to see in terms of what things are going to cost me? Because we're only seeing like the
initial inflection point. We don't know what that is. The biggest impact on people.
Yeah, let's talk about those because I want to understand those.
Yeah, so I think you've got to break the world into region. Let's focus on America.
So America immediately, you will have the lowest gas price increases of most of the world because
you are energy independent. However, it's going to be significantly more expensive. These gas like,
you know, WTI oil is slightly below the price of brand crude, which is slightly below the price
of Oman, you know, brand crude as well. So now we disjointed all the oil markets. However,
in order for this growth rate to continue without inflation, America needed oil to be approximately
$40 as a sweet spot. It also needed interest rates to be significantly lower. So what does that
actually mean? Well, immediately, you have an impact on the gas prices. Right prior to this war,
there was a hot print PPI, Purdue Surprise Index. The Purdue Surprise Index is the cost at which
things are produced in America. CPI is the consumer price index. The average price
are goods for the consumer. When you get a hot PPI, it tends to mean in three months, you'll
have a hot CPI. So prior to this war, you had 3% PPI, which was up from about 2.4%.
So we're ready. Inflation was turning around. Then we had this hot print. Now we had the oil price
shop. So you were gas prices at 4%, 30 year interest rates at 5%, which translates into mortgage
rates at 7%, 10 year yield is set in credit card debt, auto loan debt, and so you've got
real estate interest on mortgages that need to be refinanced. If you refinance, you'll refinance
in closer between 6 and 7%. So everyone that is in debt right now, if they need to refinance their
debt is going up, the cost of goods are going up, the cost of gas is going up, and then when that
energy penetrates through the economy over the next three to six months, the price of everything
is going up. Now, what is it going to go up to? It can only go up to an unsustainable price where it
has demand destruction, i.e., all your money is gas, excuse me, all your money is gas, all your
money is interest on debt, your rent, your mortgage, and if you're already on the edge,
expecting to get significantly worse over the next three months, that's baked into the
equation today. That is even if the Strait of Hormuz opens today. If this stays on for another month
or two, you're talking about a depression worse than what we experienced in the 1930s.
The reason for that is because America, saying that it's insulated, is complete fallacy,
is propped up by the petrol dollar, what's happened to the Gulf countries, they're no longer
investing, where did all the growth come last year? All the growth came from the AI and data centers
build out. That was two markets, the private credit market and Gulf money, Gulf money closed,
private credit closed. What else does it need? What else do AI need? Cheap energy.
There's no way that chat GBT can do an IPO this year at these prices. So now you've destroyed
the IPO market, the private credit market, the oil market, the energy market, the bond market,
and that comes into the stock market. It's like, it's like we got 1983, we got
.com bubble and we got the housing crisis and we got the Iraq war all rolled into one. We're
going to get into the war with you on the next segment. Both me and Tim have a lot of questions.
I want to ask you about the Strait, I want to ask you about Trump, I want to ask you about China,
I want to ask you about Iran, ultimately all of these things. Thank you so much Simon Dixon.
We're taking a break right now. We'll be right back with the news.
Key geopolitical analysis and Bitcoin early adopter, Simon Dixon. We wanted to ask Simon,
I wanted to ask you specifically, on real world overt actions that are taking place in real time
right now that we thought we'd never see. The Strait of Hormuz is closed and every day we hear
that it's open, that they're letting ships through as a sign of tribute, but we all know that's
not true. So what's your take on the current crisis right now? Are they going to be able to keep
the Strait closed? The Iranians are the Americans going to be able to open it with the Israeli
help, a Russian and China going to step in your thoughts. Yeah, the Strait is closed. Unless you
are willing to price oil in the Chinese you want, expel the Israeli embassy and the US embassy
from your country, then Iran will open you and allow shipments through. How is that enforced?
So Iran is effectively an economy within a country. Think of IRGC as a faction of power and
underneath that there is a government called the Iranian government. Right. Effectively the
Iranian government voted in parliament that the Strait can be closed. The IRGC is a militarized
force within Iran that has access to the banking system, the ports, the military, various
other infrastructure. They said that no one is allowed to pass the Strait and then the insurers
came along from Lloyd to London and said we won't ensure anyone to go through the Strait. So
that closed the Strait. You can't be insured and how is that enforced? Well the IRGC effectively
for the last 40 years has built an underground structure in a ginormous natural fortress
called Iran that's surrounded by mountains where deep in the grounds they have infrastructure
for both a nuclear civilian energy program as well as a drone manufacturing.
But I hate to interrupt you Simon, but I've got to tell you the truth right now,
Lindsey Graham says that we have commandos that can go down there and take the Iranian.
And because Mark Leven says it's true, it must be true. And this is the thing that we've
covered numerous times on the show. We've showed the footage. It's publicly available. They rag about
it. They have these giant underground missile cities, missile factories, the same with the drones,
the same with everything. We look at that right on the screen. Here's my prepping for 20 years.
They have been prepping for 20 years and my thing is they talk about estimates. They're like we know
they have these capabilities. We know that they're, we know they can do these things.
I'm like how do you 100% know that you are being certain about that? They don't even leave room
for them being wrong in these situations. So I think we've vastly seen the underestimation
of Iran's capabilities. But I want to ask you Simon, who actually holds the cards because you've
seen the US has their own set of demands, which were pretty fair in my opinion with the 15 point
peace plan. And then Iran has their own set of demands. So who really actually holds the cards
to enforce one side of the other?
I don't know if that peace plan is fair. What's your take Simon?
Yeah, so effectively, you've got to think of America as America, a sovereign country.
To get to the understanding of the world, you have to understand that through the process of
financialization and securitization, America is controlled by lobbies. And those lobbies are broken
up into different interests. The most powerful lobby is the financial industrial complex.
Then you have the military industrial complex. You also have the technical industrial complex,
big farmer, and then affiliated ones like APAC is more affiliated with Israel, Israel is a
destabilization campaign where the military industrial complex makes loads of money through war
and the financial industrial complex makes money through propping up the petrol dollar.
And so what you have to think about here is that in terms of America has a what's called a
bill back better model and they're trying to implement it. What that means is you use the
military in order to destroy a country and destroy infrastructure and subordinate leadership,
install puppet governments, do color revolutions, destroy currency, engage in financial
weapons and mass destruction, and just subordinate a country so that you can get access to the resources
to come back to the consumption. Someone called that terrorism and we saw this debate with Dave
Smith and Adam Sausnik and Adam Sausnik gets his panties all in the twist because Dave calls
the United States the biggest state sponsor of terrorism and we pointed out a lot. We talk about Cuba
and the various embargoes and of course the sanctions on Iran. We engage in economic warfare
for decades on these countries and I think that's the valuable perspective you bring here. It's
talking about that. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there is no other word for it. I guess a new once
if we want to get into the technicality, is that terrorism is officially normally for political
goals in America, it's for corporate goals. And so you're effectively renting out the US military
to get your resources so that Chevrolet and Axon can profit from them and then obviously the
American people pay for it. Yes. And so what the idea here is is you increase the bond market
which benefits the banks. Americans end up with the interest and the inflation and that is all
funneled back into resources and needed to prop up the US stock market. The US stock market is
currently 92% owned by the top wealthiest 10%. And so it's massive wealth extraction and more
war that happens. And then what happens once the war is over, you do the build back phase,
so you get oil contracts, energy contracts, resource contracts. In the case of Afghanistan,
you got 20 years of military contracts, you got the revival of the CIA drug trafficking routes in
order to get the continue the opium wars as it were. And you replace the Taliban with another
version of the Taliban that would let the drugs get in. And so, you know, but all of this is wealth
extraction. Two trillion dollars dumped on the American people, trillions of dollars of profits
for American private corporate interests. What is your prognosis for the war? When does this
exactly end? Yeah. So what actually happened is it went into that phase where they're now
destroying the assets in order to try and negotiate a new map of the world. And that map is being
set by the financial industrial complex. Now, what you have from that is you had a resistance from
the forever war model in the Middle East to simplify it. The forever war model was you needed
Israel to continually agitate war. You then needed USAID, CIA and covert operations to fund
militia groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda. You then needed Iran that was always a threat against Israel.
So you have a narrative of strategic tension. You have death to America, death to Israel.
And then they have a private economy that funds various resistance around Israel. Hamas,
Hezbollah, Houthis in Yemen. And you have constant strategic tension where there's always the
justification for printing trillions of dollars and pushing the forever war model. That props up
the petro dollar by having allies like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and the Gulf countries.
But now we want to transition to what I think the financial industrial complex is doing,
which is multi polarity. What that means is effectively all now America is an energy exporter.
China is funding all the Gulf sovereign wealth funds by purchasing their oil and gas.
And the Middle East effectively through their sovereign wealth is able to get significant
influence over American foreign policy. And so you've had this massive disruption,
this global reset that basically is pushing Europe into America through energy dependency.
And then the rest of the world is being propped up by Russian energy and China's manufacturing
base, which requires the removal of US bases in the Middle East. It requires normalization between
Iran and Saudi Arabia. And it requires the end of the apparatus that makes the forever war
model possible, which is Israel and the greater Israel project, IRGC Death to America, Death to
Israel. And then the radical evangelical Christian Neo-Con Zionists within America that need to
be reeducated. So they're going through a reeducation camp right now to understand what Israel
actually is. Take those three factions out and you no longer have the forever war model.
And you move the Middle East, basically what's happening is you're instead of the Middle East,
which was a colonial term, you're looking from London, you're looking over to the East and you
see the middle of the world, you're returning it to what it was before, which is West Asia.
You're going to have Gulf countries, Iran, all aligned with China and whose plan is this?
This is 100% China's plan, which is why it has to be over.
It was many be over in April when Xi Jinping and Trump were meeting. That meeting got delayed
by 15th of May. If we continue with the Strait of Hormuz closed until the 15th of May,
the price of oil will be $200. We'll have demand destruction on a scale we've never seen before.
You've taken off 20% of the world's oil. The entire consumption economy requires
that 20% to come back online. That's the equivalent of switching off the entire American economy
in one go and wondering what the impact of the world will be.
Well, here's the thing Simon. Somehow, you listen to the rhetoric that comes out of the
the White House. We talk about like, well, it doesn't matter if the Strait is closed.
America is releasing oil reserves. We'll supply the rest of the world.
And the thing that I've tried to highlight specifically is not oil is created equal, right?
You've got different types of oil, light crude oil. You've got heavy crude oil, which is the
stuff that comes from Venezuela. It's not the same equation. Now, I've seen a lot of the spaces
that you and Suleiman have been doing lately, where you guys are up to date. You're seeing
current events. You're seeing all the things that are playing out. The state of the war, the state
of the war specifically. What is the kind of one or two major things that you're seeing currently
as of the last, let's say 24, 48 hours that you see developing even beyond the context in the
history? Yeah, so the price of oil and the bond market are dictating the strategy that America
is following. The second oil gets over $115 and basically Trump has to fire a weapon.
The first weapon was just lying. We're a piece. We've done a deal. We need a market crash back down.
Oil comes back down. We're done. The second tool was they got everyone to drain their
strategic petroleum reserves. That's happening naturally anyway because the world is in an
energy crisis. I'm on an island right now that has ran out of diesel. Our supply chains are
breaking and we're getting ready with generators and how to do everything through alternative
means. Effectively, we could become Cuba because Cuba knows that they had to turn to biofuels
if this continues. America can pretend yes, we are energy independent.
Yes, we have the energy that we need. But remember what the difference is, Russia has nationalized
oil. America has privatized energy infrastructure. Who does this benefit a few companies?
Who's paying the debt? The Americans. Well, who does it benefit in Russia, the country?
All I need is just a moment. Let's get that Trump tweet back up. I'm going to read this to you,
Simon. I want your opinion of what the dear leader is saying right now. Donald Trump,
all of these countries that can't get jet fuel because the straightover moves like the United
Kingdom, which refused to get involved with the decapitation of Iran. I have a suggestion for you.
Number one, buy from the US. We have plenty. And number two, build up some delayed courage,
go to the straight and just take it. You just go, you can do it. Just go take it. You got it.
You got it, man. You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be there to
help you anymore. Admitting defeat already is you're kind of talking about just like you weren't
there for the US. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done. Go get your own
oil. What do you think of that lunacy? Okay. People think that Trump is a lunatic. If you think
he works for the American people, if you know the corporate interest he works for, he's actually
doing a perfect strategy for the government. He's pumping up the price of oil. He's burdening
the American people with debt. He's resetting all the energy negotiations.
And what is he doing? There are three things. So prior to this, we were weakening the dollar.
The dollar was getting weaker and weaker and weaker. That was needed because American
needed to get independence from China's manufacturing base. Now since the war, the dollars blown
up through the roof. That means that America's going more and more dependent upon China is reversing
the rebuild of the manufacturing base because the dollar is strengthening. So we've reversed that
trend. Now what props that off? The euro dollar, the petro dollar, and the Japan carry trade.
So by putting Asia into an energy crisis and pushing them towards Russia to solve that crisis
and bricks effectively, then that's the perfect way of achieving that. And then you push Europe
into an American dependency for that energy. You split the world up into the hemispheres.
And in order to get that, what do you need to do? You need firstly an inflation recycle
and then an over a recession or a depression. So the way you do that is you get the inflation up.
You then have demand destruction. That means things are unaffordable. Everyone starts consuming
and you push the price basically, the demand for oil down. So you've taken 20% of the oil offline.
Now you need to get what price of oil gets demand destruction. And demand destruction means recession,
depression, unemployment, and then you can get inflation down just by destroying the economy
effectively. You need to make up for 20% of oil. So you've got to get oil up to about $200.
So you need to be crazy. And then you need to break the, you know, effectively break the euro dollar
for after the reset, break the petro dollar, and break the Japan carry trades because Japan
through the 0% interest rates were funding the US debt. So if you really want, you know,
after this war is over, the only way to get the price to fix this right now is to crash the price
of oil and get bond rates down. The only way to do that is for Trump to reach an agreement with
Iran. And Iran effectively can carry on forever because it can keep the straight closed.
There's only two countries that are economically insulated. The two countries that were sanctioned
Iran and Russia. So they already are completely insulated. You know, they all they need is one thing
for China to buy that oil. And the Russian that's just rolling around in money now. I mean,
$760 million, baby teen about to be 19 sanctions packages passed in the US alone. And then you look
at Europe and all their efforts and all that's out the window. And you look at just how big of a
crisis this is, they had to throw that, they had to play that card. Well, and the way I hear you
describing it Simon, like this is all part of a greater plan. And why I will agree with you on
certain parts of that. I'm like, there's no possible way in my mind that, you know, someone like
Trump and all the rest of the people who are behind the scenes are this calculated that they can
take into account all the butterfly effects in the chain and the chain reactions. Because here's
the thing, if oil goes up to $200 a barrel, I don't think we know how that turns out. And because
the world is so much more interconnected now than it ever has been in history, no one actually
truly knows what the ripple effect looks like. Well, and what's the timeline on top of that to
make a deal? Like, what does that look like? Is you talk about the price of oil spiking? I mean,
what if this goes on for another six months, God forbid? Yeah, what happens if it goes on for six
months? Yeah, I'm really glad you said all those things because there's a few things that people
confuse around me trying to explain things and people interpreting it through their own lens.
This is not Trump's plan, this is not Q, this is not trust the plan, this is not a genius, you
know, Trump is the press secretary for his lobbies and greater powers.
He's the manager of the burger cow, yes. Yes, sorry. Exactly. Now, do the greater powers,
financial industrial complex, technical industrial complex, military industrial complex have a plan?
Yes, they hedge for every outcome. They use derivatives market, they launch military operations,
they try and get the resources, they have a business plan around to build that better and the
forever war. And they know that if you can usher in law changes for a technical or well-earned
technocratic surveillance state nightmare, then they've hedged every outcome. If this ends up in
civil unrest, then the technical industrial complex creates a police and surveillance state.
If they manage to achieve peace in the Middle East and get a deal, then the financial industrial
complex gets all the bill back better contracts. If this all fails and IRGC resists to the point where
you know, this goes out of control, then you effectively have the forever war model and you
rebuild all these military contracts. So mass weapons are being sold, you know, for defense,
missile interceptors. And so black rock, as it were, state street and vanguard, the asset managers,
they're okay, whatever happens. Now, you are right. Once you hit a point of $200 oil,
you hit massive demand destruction. What is the model when you have demand destruction?
Exactly what they did during the Great Depression of the 1930s. You consolidate wealth just like
the 2008 financial crisis. Get a big print, socialize the losses, privatize the gains,
send all the small businesses bankrupt, send the individuals bankrupt, and try and put them
on some kind of universal basic. No, you're, you're, you're, you're a free strategy.
And after whatever the outcome is, they're going to concentrate wealth in the West.
What is the resistance against that? This is the irony of the whole thing.
Who's really draining the swamp right now? The factions of the IRGC that we would call the
hardliners, they're resisting against the plan, they're taking out the US military bases.
They're effectively pushing the Gulf countries away from the Epstein class over towards,
China and Briggs. And they're effectively fighting for that multi-polar world as it were.
In that, they are draining the swamp. They are actually draining the swamp.
They are taking on the deep state. Remember, the dollar is backed by the deep state.
If you break the deep state, you break the Japan carry trade, the Petro dollar and the Euro
dollar, which means that America is shrunk into a regional power. And so taking on the deep state
is what props up the dollar. And the IRGC are taking on the deep state. Where does IRGC get
its power from? Obviously from Russia and China. They're getting intelligence fed through.
They've got asymmetric weapons set up with drones and missiles that make essentially big
expensive equipment that the US military were profiting from irrelevant. Now, of course,
you can inflict damage on them. But what happens every time you hit an infrastructure,
you push the price of oil up. Now, who benefits from the price of oil and gas going on?
Russia as a sovereign state, Iran as a sovereign state,
and American private, big oil, big LNG, and the world economic forum agenda that wants
a technocratic surveillance state where you were owe nothing and be happy. Trump is delivering it
for them to perfection. And the reason I think he's a blithering idiot is because they don't
know what's going to happen. He doesn't know what's going to happen. And he's being told what to
do next. And he's trying to communicate that. They very clearly, they run these people. They're
all empty suits. It's like you said, like he's the press secretary in reality. I compare all these
people to like managers of various fast food restaurants. And they may be the person that gives
the checkout. They may be the person in the photo with the apron. But we all know the truth.
We know the reality. They work for the people with the money. And I think that's what you so
absolutely break down because when we talk about these things, ultimately, we can talk about
missile systems and destroyed interceptors and destroyed planes and destroyed US bases. And
all of the nitty-gritty, but in reality, it's all in service to this multi-polar world that's
being built around us. I think you're one of the best at breaking that down. I really appreciate
you coming on here with us. Yeah, we've only got like a minute here left. But where can people
find you because there's a lot of information that you come out with every single week. You've got
great spaces that you're in. You've got great podcasts that you're a part of. Where can people find
you? Yeah, so I go through these very long play-by-play monetary transaction by monetary
town's action in Bitcoin tech macro and geopolitics every Friday. It's like a three, four-hour marathon.
I break it down into AI on my blog, SimonDixon.com. If you've only got 10, 15 minutes.
And then I'm always on X and giving live spaces and giving live minute-by-minute players we
go through this. Fortunately, Bitcoin made me financially independent, and I'm trying to get as many
people as sovereign as possible. So sovereign countries, sovereign companies, sovereign individuals,
and the real undertone here, which we didn't get to cover much, is what are you going to do to
prepare? So hopefully we could come back to another show or something. Yes, because what really is
important is you, your family, your community, because you can understand these big pictures.
But right now, we are in a, this is, this is already a crisis. And if the straight is opened every
single day, it's not opened, it's going to get worse and worse and worse. You are a gentleman who's not
factored it in. SimonDixon, we love you. Thank you. The goal of this show has been and will always
be to totally murder your morning. We're going to kill that time. We're going to take you through
a journey. We got guests, we got colors, we got everything, but more importantly than that,
we got the deep dive with Tim talk in the lab. Deep dive. My favorite part of the segment,
this is all I do outside of the show. I spend time researching, breaking things down,
understanding specific topics. High level of mortality. To you specifically, the audience back
at home. And today, what I want to talk about specifically is grocery prices, because we've talked
about gas, diesel, Iran, those types of things. But one thing that you were immediately seeing
within your household is the food prices. And that all started during the COVID era.
We're going to cover specifically on why food got so expensive. Because everyone's just like,
well, that's so expensive. It's just the gas. It's just what happens to you guys are going to be
shocked. What actually is happening behind closed doors and behind the scenes. This is why I love
doing these deep dives. So let's start with this price increase chart here on number one.
And we're just going to show people what this looks like.
So if you look at it, it's in that folder. Eggs doubled, you had, if you've been to a grocery,
you've lately seen that eggs have doubled, you've got milk, has jumped, ground beef, butter,
everything has essentially shot up. You were talking about bison beef the other.
Yeah, the thing isn't near something that we didn't, we neglected to mention with Simon,
but I think it's such a good point. And he kind of already covered it. Inflation never truly goes
down right now. The price doesn't go down just the rate of the increase slope. It goes up.
Sometimes it's slightly decreases, but not anything meaningful. And it'll continue to jump up.
So the official story is pretty simple. COVID broke the supply chain is what everybody's talking
about. You had the bird flu that killed the hands companies had no choices, but to raise prices
on you guys. And the photo that I want is the first one that started the chart that shows
what happened from COVID going on specifically. Oh, that one's crazy. No, it is crazy. And it's
in that folder that has all the assets in order. And I linked it inside of the drive. So
that's not the full story, though. COVID is not the full story. While families were paying more,
there was one egg company that was paying out $252 million to share holders.
Nice. $252 million, right? And that's a 40X increase in the dividends that they had
the prior year. And that's during a crisis where they said, we have to increase egg prices.
So before we understand that, we need to actually understand who this actually is. Yeah,
this is the chart. Perfect. Like, increase all the food prices food at home. Yeah, I mean,
if you look at it, it starts off like one to 2% on average a year. That's what we've been
consistently used to. And then you just see something happen after COVID and you're like, well,
just rapid increase increase where you're seeing like 10 plus percentage increase. And it's not
coming down. You were completely right about this. Now, we got to understand who it specifically
affects. It affects the lower incomes. And let's pull up number two here. So when prices jump to
10 to 13% year over year, the impact isn't actually equal. It's actually wealthy families that
aren't impacted as much. The people who are at the bottom of the tax bracket are the ones that
it gets expensive for. So the simple question is is like, do you see like how this impacts
people wrecks like, oh, yeah, no, I see how it impacts people to me. The thing this makes me think
of is we have politicians that get elected every four years and this continues to get worse.
How these people couldn't be elected dog catcher? No, yeah. And this is what you're seeing. The
have nots and have the have nots and have yachts. Yeah, have yachts don't have to worry about
the food going up. Anybody who's in that lower 20% tile, they're the ones that are getting
destroyed by this. Now we're going to continue this deep dive. We're about to come here on a
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You took this kind of 30,000 foot view with Simon and now with Tim, we're looking at it under
a microscope. And that's how you really got to do these things. Both macro and micro arguments
as a micro mark Levin would tell you, let's go back to the deep dive. Tim Topkins talking about
inflation. Yeah, so with this food, you know, we got to understand two things here specifically.
Most people don't realize how the global supply chain actually works because over 60 percent
of the vegetables that Americans are eating the same stuff that you get at your table every time
you eat come from other countries. So a huge portion of that actually comes from Mexico. And we
can pull up the picture of the Mexican imports of tomatoes because tomatoes is a perfect exam.
Right. Showing how much the increase has happened over time. So you look at it early 2000s,
we start around 0.5 metric tons. And now we're crossing over 1.5 nearing two and that's going
to continue going up. Now why it matters is specifically because our food system is incredibly
efficient, but efficiency also creates fragility. So let's go ahead and pull up this clip because
it's going to show you the pathway of a tomato and it's number five here. And you're going to just
see how long it takes from the tomato growing to how it ends up at your doorstep when you go to
the grocery store. It's just like the goal of an Africa, you know, it has to go through all
different checkpoints. People got to get their taste. Yes, money. Okay, let's go ahead and roll that
clip of the tomato supply chain.
Oh, the journey of a tomato. They're often picked while they are still green. They're not right
yet. Often picked by hand and then loaded into trucks. A tomato like this will often go into a sealed
room where they are gassed with ethylene to ripen them. Ethylene is just a naturally occurring
hormone that helps ripen these guys. They want them to all ripen at the same time right as they
get to the grocery store. But we have a long way to go before we get to the grocery store. So
they pump with this gas and then if they're going into cans, which a lot of tomatoes do, they go
through this industrial factory wizardry. But for the ones that are going to end up like this
fresh, they are on a truck headed north. They end up in a nearby city, probably the capital
in this big facility where they are sorted, chilled and then put on big pallets. They get back
on to a truck, which by the way, all of these trucks are refrigerated. That's a big logistical
challenge to make sure these things don't get too hot or cold. And now the truck is heading north.
It gets to the U.S. Mexico border. Look, this is where people go back and forth between the two
countries. But over here is a special border crossing just for trucks. Our tomatoes are in one of
these. It clears customs and then it probably ends up at one of these transfer stations where the
trailer might be transferred on to another truck to an American driver who will take it from there.
The tomatoes are now in the United States. Once in the U.S. they might be re-ripened and repackaged,
and they eventually take a long haul trip on America's freeways and enough at a distribution center,
like this one in Illinois. Here tucked into the endless expanse of farmland is this massive building
surrounded by cargo trucks. The tomatoes are unloaded, they're scanned for inventory,
they're repackaged, and then they're back on the road headed towards the grocery store. And I promise
I'm getting close here. Okay, we've arrived at the grocery store. This whole journey was nine days
about a thousand kilometers or 620 miles. And the tomatoes are finally stacked in the vegetable
aisle, ready for you to buy a pound for two dollars. Bring them home, chop them up, and throw them
into a sauce. But sounds like that's getting more expensive. Yeah. And the reason why I showed you
guys that video and why we're talking about a tomato is the tomato is just a personification
of the larger chain in itself. And it comes across all the food groups because let's pull up the
graphic of that showing the journey. And it'll be number six there. Let's pull up that image
because I want people to understand how much the supply chain look at all of these points at
which that tomato has to go through. And the problem here specifically, Rex, is at any point,
if any of these systems break down, right, it creates a trickle down effect. And that's the part
that people understand. What each one of these individual processes has become far more expensive
than at the beginning of the war for a variety of factors. Right. Right. Right. And there's
multiple events. Any event can break one of these supply chain points at any point. So
here's a list specifically of some of the events that we've had that have impacted the person
or the supply chain itself. You had COVID shutdowns that had factories, trucking, packing,
all that once. You had the Texas freeze. I wasn't here for that, but I heard a lot about that.
Things were the world ended here, bro. People were not prepared for ice. Yeah. And you know,
us in the Northeast were like, well, y'all salt the roads. Okay, we don't salt the roads.
No, they're liberal. Seeing in Texas, I actually see why it is very dangerous. They don't do anything
to the roads. But you have the Texas freeze that destroyed the citrus crops. Mediterranean,
they had a drought that made an issue with olive oil. Canada, they had a drought that ended up
dropping the supply of canola oil. That hit your pocket. Indonesia, they did a ban on palm oil.
And that also did something really. Then your favorite wrecks. Okay, Ukraine. We infertilize
our prices. You remember that? Yep. Yep. Yeah. So there's a bunch of things along this path,
including meat, plants, local tax can reroute the global shipping. And the supply chain can get
smashed from every different angle. Right. Yeah. I mean, we're just seeing more and more of that.
It's not just a local problem. It's an international problem. And so I made the point of like,
oh, like we pretend to be energy efficient until we're really not, right? And until prices
had a point to where people here can afford to be independent anymore. Yeah. And again,
all of these stack on top of each other, like each other. And here's the thing, guys.
Companies cannot afford all the time to absorb all the cost. Right. And so that's why we hear
the narrative that tells us, hey, wrecks, our truck broke down. We had a big shortage of supplies.
It's going to cost you a dollar more at the store as you go and pick up your tomatoes now.
But that's only half of the story here. Okay. There are scenarios where you're seeing companies
actually taking advantage of the crisis themselves. Oh, yes. And this is the secret sauce,
because no one else is covering this stuff. I have not seen anybody on a wide scale talking
about this on their shows. So let's talk about this one scenario called the bird flu.
Everybody knows about that. Let's pull up number seven here on the bird flu egg prices.
And we're going to show people what happened during this time period. Okay. You see that line in
2022. That is when they said the bird flu outbreak had to kill all those chickens. They had,
yeah, they had to call and kill all the chickens. And you probably heard the bird flu spreads.
Million of hens get cold, egg shortages, and then it leads to price soaring. But here's the thing.
Companies positioned themselves as victims of these natural disasters just like these egg
companies, right? And they told the public that they had to raise their prices. But what were you
to expect if you see a company struggling and they have to increase the prices?
It's because the companies don't operate with the goodwill of the people in mind. They operate
purely off the profit basis. And it's like you talked about when the companies go public and they
start accumulating the debt. I mean, their only interest is let's say it gets 20% more expensive
for them to get you eggs, right? Yep. Their only interest is to use that as an excuse to add 40%
to their margin, right? Because they'll add the 20% it takes to cover and they add the 40%
or 20%. Oh, it gets worse than that because what you would expect is if situation or crisis
happens, you expect that stock to fall or for them to be affected somehow. Let's pull up number
eight that shows the biggest egg producer stock prices during that time period. This is going to
shock you guys. So look at 2022, you would expect there to be like some drastic fall off on their
stock prices because this carried out for a while. But egg prices doubled and then you see
Cal main stock price actually skyrocket. It goes from $40 to $60. Brex, these numbers aren't
adding up are they? No, they're not adding up at all. They add up great for the people making
the money just not for the Americans. And here's the thing people will call me, you socialist,
you comedy scum. Actually, no, I support what Teddy Roosevelt said. I support the the Sherman
anti-trust act in breaking up these big monopolies because these are monopolies. Really,
we examine this in every sector when we do these various deep dives. That is the common thread.
These aren't supposed to exist this way in America. Yes, you're 100% right. But wait,
there's more. It gets better. It gets better. Let's look at this dividend payout because the
dividends is where you got to follow the money. So corporations are required to file things. But
you're seeing in 2023, the dividend payout is just skyrocketed. Right. I mean, and the dividend
is going directly to the investors. If you have to the moon, right, right, the only way you have
dividends is if the company is profitable and is making a lot of money to where they can justify
paying the shareholders. Right. So again, your food prices go up, your egg prices specifically go
up with Cal main owning a majority of the market in America. And everybody in the stock market
is happy and making a bunch of money. Now, the other thing we need to look at is the cash flows
itself. If we pull up number 10, we're going to look at where the actual filing happens because
public corporations are required to actually submit filings. And we can actually read some of this.
That's going to be this. Okay, that's the document you want me to control. We'll focus on this
middle. I'll read the middle, not that one, not the bottom one. This one. Yeah. Okay,
and we're going to focus on the cash flows from financing activities. Okay, we paid dividends
totaling 252.3 million and 6.1 million in fiscal 2023 and 2022 respectively. As of June 2023,
cash increased 233.7 million since May 28, 2022 compared to an increase of 1.7 million
during fiscal 2022. So they 200 X their profit or 2000 X. I don't know, I'm sure what the multiplier
is. It's the multiplier on this. Let me see. What was the multiplier on this? Because they made
7 to last year and they got 2.5 or 252. Yeah, it's a lot. That's pretty much the equation.
And here's the thing, going from 6.1 to 2.252 is a lot. And then here's the thing that
is. What does that like your struggle now does it? No, no. And the best part that reveals that
is actually the second part there. I'll read this for the credit facility because they have to
reveal to the shareholders what they're doing with their right. They said we had no
long-term debt outstanding at the end of fiscal year 2023 and 2022. Wow, that is huge guys.
Companies normally take on debt when they're not able to have enough money to actually provide
the services that they are doing. They're doing fantastic. They're doing fantastic.
Are you doing fantastic at home? Do you want the government to actually work for you instead
of these companies? Let's get some real leaders in charge.
Oh, oh, and here's the thing. Let's do my screen share here because I'm going to show you guys a
chart. And we're going to look at the egg prices compared to the correlation of the Calming
Foods dividend payouts. And we're going to show that, okay? So I've got a handy dandy. Let me go
full screen here. And you guys are going to take a look at this. This is something that I made on
the gray area. So let's take a look at what's happening. Top is red. We've got the prices of eggs.
This blue line shows Calming's dividends. So we're going. We're in 2021. Okay, no dividend payouts.
Oh, oh, we're hitting 2022. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Somebody's getting dividend payouts. The egg prices
are increasing. Okay. Now in 2023, it looks like egg prices are coming down. I'm like, okay,
that sounds good. Something looks good. And then this is the inflection point here. This should
shock you guys. Going into 2024 all the way through. Wow. Look at this. Look at this chart guys.
You are seeing as your egg prices are going up, these people are making boo-koo money. They're
making more and more cash off of you. So now we can't even say specifically, how is it that we
can blame the supply chain and we use these narratives. And then if you look at the supply of eggs
themselves, because the supply normally if there's less supply, we got old dude, he drank like 10 eggs.
Dude, what the? Whoa, he's better than me. I would throw up. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I couldn't
do that. But like going back to the point here is let's look at the supply of eggs on number 12,
because normally you would expect on a supply chain for if there's less supply of something,
then the price of that would be increased because it's a demand and supply. But let's pull up the
number 12, the supply of eggs. So when they told us in 2022 that the bird flu outbreak happened,
you would expect there to be a significant drop off. The top line is what you need to pay attention
to. Right, that's a supply and it's pretty much constant. It's pretty much constant between 600
and 700 million eggs. They lied. Yes, they did. They absolutely lied to you. It's right there in
black and white. You can't argue with it. You can't argue. So they're saying supplies is at the same
game. I have a great idea. Thinking time. Let's make the American people pay more. That's right.
You know, that single mom, she's not struggling enough. Take care of it now. Exactly. It's wild.
Help the people. Oh, man. And here's the thing right. Good. Eggs are staple food. It's not like
you just went and said, we're going to do this to chocolate milk, which is a luxury. No, eggs
is like in everything. It's a requirement for people to have is also an essential.
Let's not let's not get things twisted here, but go ahead. I take your
point. No, no, no, go ahead. That's the main point I wanted to make. The thing is,
is we see it's a very stable supply. Maybe they take a 5%, 10% dip somewhere along the line,
but they literally don't start getting paid out the shareholders until there's a crisis.
And the worst the crisis gets and the bigger the crisis gets, as we saw in the two inflection
points, the original one and the one that's even bigger. As the American people have to pay more,
as the American people get gouged and raped and pillaged over and over again,
all these companies do is print and make more money because the government serves the financial
industrial complex. Yes. Yes. You're right. Now, I want to just look at the numbers here while,
you know, you were struggling to get those eggs and you saw them at $8. Let's pull up the dividends
that the Calmaine director was making because the CEO's got to get his bread.
Make his yacht sale beautifully. This is what we call the have nots and have yachts.
Let's read that part and highlight it. Sure. I'll read the whole thing real quick.
Calmaine's current CEO Sherman L Miller, Big Bucks Miller, that's what we call him,
took in 1.1 million in total compensation for fiscal year 2023, 26 times the medium
employee income of 45,000. Additionally, Miller and other stockholders were awarded huge dividend
payments. Oh, the real money. Thanks to Calmaine's record breaking profits, thanks to the crisis they
capitalized on. The company estimates that Calmaine's board chair and former CEO Adolphus, Adolph.
Okay, little Adolph, the baker who owns more than the 15, uh, 150,000 shares would have taken in
over 800,000 of those dividends alone. So they're they're they're rolling in the money.
I have to go for Adolph, that's what we say. It is just absolutely insane to see these things.
You know, you you look at the average CEO, the shareholders making more. Here's the thing guys,
we go back in history, we look at what happened during Reagan's time because I like to talk about
this because it's important. There used to be a chart and I'll pull it up one day where you see
the breakdown of where companies stop sharing their profits with the with the people who are
actually creating the, the increase in productivity workers. They pay the shareholders right because
it used to be, hey, we're doing better guys. Here's a bonus here. Here, take this home. We appreciate
the work that you're doing. Let's keep you for another 20 years somehow during the 80s. We said,
Rex, you know, it would be a great idea. Tell me, instead of paying back the dividends to the people,
let's allow the corporations to buy their own stock and make it go higher.
Incredible infinite money hack. Let's do it. Who cares what our children or grandchildren will
have to live through? Scrum will be dead anyway. And that's that's the calculation. That's the
calculation. That's the secret. That's why sometimes we love our older audience shout out to you.
Sometimes we rag on the boomer generation a little bit is because, well, of course, you're happy
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but these are the facts on the ground. Yeah, I love the deep dive. No one else does it.
I love it. And we're not even done here because we're going to just understand,
is this just one company or is there a pattern behind this? You got to be a pattern.
There's got to be a pattern. Now, let's go ahead and pull up the video of the CFO of her.
She talking about it because he admitted on an earnings call that he raised prices higher
than inflation, right? And they were not alone. Many of the S&P 500 companies actually did the same
thing and you see the pattern play across all of the corporations. So let's go ahead and roll
this clip, okay? The CFO of Hershey in 2023 said on an earnings call to the company's
shareholders quote, pricing and productivity gains more than offset inflation and higher
manufacturing and overhead costs. In non-wall street speak, that says, we increased our prices
well above what our increased costs were. Like our costs for sugar, cocoa, etc have gone up,
but we have been able to not only pass all of those costs onto consumers, but then some
increasing our profit margin. Hershey's wasn't the only company to say this.
Originally, like the vast majority of S&P 500 companies said this, free to lay at PepsiCo,
for example, did the same thing where they said we've been able to rapidly increase
kind of our pricing actions is what they call them, which is increasing prices. So profits are
soaring while a family of four who's surviving on a thrifty food plan is seeing their costs for
food increase by 30% or more for the last few years, more and more turning to government programs.
And so now our taxpayer dollars are going to help inflated prices to make shareholders rich.
It's not a good set up. It's not a good set of incentives. It's not a free market. This isn't good.
It's not a free market.
What, what, what ex? You see this, this candy's good for you here.
Mama always told me I need my bone to be strong. That's why I use the fluoride toothpaste.
She made me real intelligent. Yeah, I mean, this is the thing and they want to make you proud
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things. And so I mean, just the mere, the guts of these people to increase it beyond inflation
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But let's get back to it because we got a little bit more. And as you guys have seen the CEO of
Hershey's was lying to everybody told everybody will be increased beyond inflation numbers.
Again, what else do we expect? But one thing we do also need to focus on here is the monopoly part.
And we like to call these guys the big four, the meat industry. Can we pull up that image for
people to see because here's the structure that makes it possible. Okay, you've got four companies
that control 73% of beef, 67% of pork and 54% of chicken. Okay, just look at this chart here.
Now Rex, what happens when we have monopolies? When we have monopolies, the private
citizen or the small business can't compete. The monopolies get to set the price. They get to engage
in price-gathering and price-free. And so we have this privatization and these big companies
just buying up all the smaller competition because Rex, it's not illegal for us to buy another
company. Right. And the company kind of mirrors what the government does. Whatever the government
can get away with large company can get away with to a smaller extent. And maybe we need to redefine
what a monopoly actually is because it seems to be the way that they're taking it. It can only be one.
Yeah, it can only be one. But not if they're all colluding together as one amorphous entity.
We don't talk about that shut up. We don't we don't we don't we don't we don't talk about that.
They're going to have the sniper train. Yeah, we're going to get out here. You're going to get
this, bro. Right. So I think that's the new one because it's all the corporations are talking
together and they're they're conspiring behind the scenes to set the prices. Then
you're going to see the same thing as a monopoly playing out in real time here. Now there was
a lawsuit that came out and we can pull up that picture on number 16. And this isn't speculation.
The poultry giants actually already paid millions in price fixing settlements.
So McDonald's had McDonald's has sued beef suppliers for collusion frozen potatoes and tuna
industries also got caught from manipulating prices. And this is a wider industry behavior.
And we can read a little bit of this. You could just read it off the screen. Yeah,
absolutely. Cargill settles Turkey price fixing suit with $32.5 million dollar payout.
Cargill Incas agreed to pay $32.5 million to settle a class action lawsuit accusing
the company and several other processors of conspiring to fix Turkey prices.
The agreement filed on January 15th with the US District District Court from the
Northern District of Illinois awaits court approval. Yeah. So I mean, you're going to sue people if
you can clearly see that they're fixing prices because it affects the company itself.
It's pretty ironic to see McDonald's suing now. Sure. I mean, they're pumping our bodies with like
terrible chemicals and they're like, well, you're fixing beef prices.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. They're all guilty, right? In various sectors of the
American economy, we've been defrauded by our own companies. We've been taking advantage of
our own companies. This needs to change and it has to stop and it starts with awareness like
we're doing. It does start with awareness. And another awareness that you guys need to have is
this isn't just mutually exclusive to the United States, right? This is happening around the globe.
And number 17 is going to show the world inflation. But let's pull up that chart.
US food inflation is real and it is painful. And I'm just going to say it again.
The price never goes down. The rate that it goes up only slows. So they brag about 2% inflation,
3% inflation. Just know they're expecting you to bear the burden of all the prior decades.
Yes. Now let's look at this chart here. Who's number one? Argentina. Argentina. I don't
think it was going to fix everything. 183% my guys. Oh my lord. It's not even as bad as Gaza
apparently. Yeah. Gaza. Palestine is behind at what that's 115. We've got. We've got one
way in Bobway. We got 94% south Sudan. Then Turkey. We got 48%. I can't read that other one.
We got 44%. We got Nigeria at 39. We got another one at 38. We got a blue. It's Argentina at 34.
And then we got one other one at 27. Now I could be wrong there. There there are sources saying
that it could be up to 200 to 300% food inflation in Argentina. Really quick. Let's get that
graphic back up there on the screen. I just want to take a look at this because you see the massive
lines and you're like, well, what is this? How can this even be real? And then you look all the
smaller ones, 39% 27% Egypt, 34% Argentina. That's 34% more expensive food year over. Yes. That's
world. And guys, just to keep this in perspective in United States at our peak in during COVID,
we were seeing somewhere between 10 to 14% and you felt that. So imagine being a citizen in that
country where you're just trying to go to this grocery store and your eggs used to cost you,
I don't know, $4 and then suddenly it's $8 the next day or and it's just not sustainable.
And as much as I like to complain about what it's like here in the United States,
I look at these bigger pictures and I look at the wider world itself and I say, hey,
it could be better. Now that doesn't justify it, but it puts it in a perspective so that I don't
feel so blackpilled all the time like, dang. So I got to come in with the blackpill now.
I go ahead. I got to do it. The thing is because our standard of living is so much higher here,
because the prices are so much lower, when those prices start to go up and once it reaches
a terminal and inflection point of which people can't deal with it anymore,
that's how you get Bedlam Pandemonium, Panic, whatever word you want to use for it,
that's how you get that mass reaction from the society. Now look at my dad.
That's hilarious. My dad, he's in the grocery store.
What is this video? It's a central market. It's old B-roll, I love that. I reposted
an additive of that to my ex. Look, I'll cry. Now we love old videos of Alex. We do.
Yeah, and this is pretty much it for my deep dive specifically.
I wanted to just take you from start to finish, because there's always hidden systems that we
don't understand around the world. And these are the, this is the information that these
corporations do not want you to know. But what I was kind of leading into the break when you're
coming back in the room, what I said is like we took a 30,000 foot view with Simon. Now we're
taken like a under a microscope view of you. And then that creates a situation where you,
the viewing and listening public, the audience out there, the American and global citizens around
the world, you can take that information and then use that as a starting point for yourself to
actually know what's going on. You can see the forest for the trees, which is actually a very
hard thing to be able to do. It is very hard guys. I spend hours, tens of hours doing research
about each of these topics specifically, because I do it for the love of the game and I care
about the listeners. Right. And if you guys want to hear more about these and you want to catch more
deep dives, I will be doing this on the American Journal regularly. I don't care how much effort
it takes. I'm committed. But at the same time, we do this also on our own show. Let's talk about
gray area, because we're live Thursday and Sunday from 7 30 PM to around 9 30 or 10 30 PM. It's
been a great hub for people to get connected with us. We're about to take calls here on the show,
a lot of the callers from gray area. I've tried to call in us as well on the American Journal.
And we love that. But if you guys want to check us out, give us a shot. We're live Thursday and
Sunday that 7 30 PM. Give truism, Timma follow, give gray area talks to follow on X and myself as
well. If you're not already following, let's take calls. Yeah, let's take calls.
Let's do it. Who do we have on the board today? I'm interested to see. I haven't seen the board
yet for today. And let's talk about what we want to ask the callers here today.
Sure. There's a lot of stuff that we unpacked between just this deep dive and specifically some
of the information that we had during Simon. But let's go ahead. Sure. Let's ask these people.
Let's ask the dear viewers and listeners that are on the call what they want to see positive
development out of the world, what they're looking forward to. Let's go a little white pill with
that. Let's take call number one, Stephen Nevada. Steve, what are you looking forward to in the
world? You're on there. Hey, good morning, guys. How are we doing? Pretty good. Great, man. All right.
This is what I was just talking to a good friend of mine. We start up a podcast that we're getting
rolling with real American patriots. And it's a pretty heavy name. I was surprised I could get it.
Anyway, I was talking about, you know, trying to get the message out about trying to unite people
with people up. Okay. And we've been hit with so much crap over the years, right? You know, like
propaganda here. And you know, once people start getting hit the one thing, you know, let's put
this new thing together, new war, new this and that. It's all BS. So what we're to the point now,
where I was just saying to my friend Mark, I said, you know, man, we're trying to get a positive
message out. But at this point, this whole new world order stuff that we've been talking about
for a long time, home and line with the whole jurist process, prophecy and, you know,
you know, the whole story, man, I don't have to tell you. Well, that's all good. But a lot of people
still think that we're crazy, right? Yeah. What's your positive take? What are you looking forward to?
I saw you watch the Jake Shields thing. Were you happy with some of the thoughts that I expressed
on that program? I thought it was great. Awesome. You know, I thought it was real. And there's
was a little bit shocking, I guess, for a lot of people because people are still in this kind of
brain fog. Well, what I'm thinking here is that the messages like you guys are talking about,
you know, prices and whatnot. I've been talking about this stuff with people,
getting people's opinions, just in supermarkets and stuff. Just people, you know, just
walking by somebody and I see somebody stop and look at like a thing of sugar or whatever.
Say, I'm like, what do you think about this or that? Or do you notice how these prices are going
boom, boom, boom, here and there? And it's not like a normal cycle where I totally agree. I
think I see where you're going with this really appreciate the girl. Yeah, I mean, so here's
the thing, right? Like I was at the grocery store. I was at the self checkout and I was looking
over the girl next to me and she's talking to me a little bit and I'm like, yeah, you notice how
they have these machines. They don't have to employ people to have these machines. They're
phasing everybody out. See, it's less expensive to pay the machine at your own stuff. And then,
you know, she doesn't want to have that conversation. Thank you, Steve, from Nevada.
I really appreciate the call. Let's go to four. To call number four, that's going to be Ian
and Houston on the Iran War. Yes, good morning, guys. How's it going?
Pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah, I was just calling, you know, you just gave us the
prompt of what we're looking for in the world. And I hope that everyone understands, you know,
one of the reasons I'm calling it, and I've called in and talked to your guy a couple of times.
And, you know, our generation, I'm hoping is going to be the generation that brings world
peace. You know, that's what I'm looking for. That's what everybody should be looking for.
Early talking about destroying the missiles, like putting the missiles in a pile, in a pile,
and shooting a missile at the pile of missiles. Well, what you're talking about, what you're
talking about there, I don't want to interrupt you here, but what you're talking about is non-proliferation
and arms control. And this was a huge movement. And it just stopped. In fact, we just refuse to do
an extension on the new start treaty with Russia. They wanted that treaty. We didn't, now there's
no limits on civilian nuclear weapons. We appreciate the call, Ian, what's your take?
Yeah, I mean, look, you're right, Ian, I wish we could throw it in a pile. We were going the right
way during the nuclear arms race. We were like, wait, wait, wait, wait, guys, this is a race to the
bottom. What are we doing here? Yes, this makes zero sets right now. Absolutely. So yes, I agree with
you, but here's the thing, it requires somebody to be the bigger person, take ownership of the fact
that maybe we haven't been doing this to correct way and lead by example, but I don't think
America's ready to do that. Yeah, but we can be the generation that demands change, just like with
these heinous drone attacks, I see whether it's Ukrainian or Russian, I don't care if you have someone
in fear for their life and you have someone mocking them, flying the drone them over and over
and over again, then eventually boom. And then it's done morally against that. I think it's
outrageous, just like chemical weapons. Let's go to number three, Lenin Columbus, you're on the air.
Yes, sir, the duo that I'll have is dynamic. Thank you. And you know, the way you press that gas
and then toward the last of it and you just used a finesse and you just presented a question
and he just he opened up at that point and he let it flow and he directed it and I could see it,
I could see everything that he was saying, how this was going to evolve and how those phases
were already developing. That was so wonderful to just see that brought out, you know, that is
absolutely wonderful. And I know, I know your dad's proud of you and Sam, Sam, you asked for a lot
of money because you deserve it. Hey, look, man, I appreciate it. We're just happy to be here and
get a chance to do this because I don't come from a media background. I haven't been doing this
forever and it's just a very big deal for me just to be able to have a platform to speak on.
So I just do it for the love of the game, you know, I'm not here to grip. We're super grateful.
If you want to catch more of us like we are live Thursday and Sunday, I assume maybe you've
already checked out our great area broadcast. Thank you so much. Yeah, the best way if you want to
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giving us a follow on X is the biggest thing. And we do truly love doing it as well.
Lynn, we both have full-time jobs. I mean, we're both small business owners. We do all sorts of
things like we're here because we want to connect with you and we're really glad that we have.
Thank you so much, Lynn, for the quality. Anything else you want to say in closing?
Well, I do. I click down so I subscribe and just carry on. Thank you. We need jobs to do.
I appreciate you, sir. We both appreciate you. Thank you so much. All right, really quick,
we got more calls on the board. What the hell did y'all hand to us? We got to file a photo as the guy
were in prosthetic breasts. The first one caught me. Adoskiy on who? I don't know who this is.
Yeah, you ever see that video of the guy on Instagram who's just showing a bunch of photos
to these homeless people and he's like, is that this guy? No, it's nothing like that. I have no,
okay, it gets better. Okay, secret double life of Christy Nomes,
cross-dressing husband, Byron, whatever I can see. Pouting, Brian with the Y,
pouting busty, busty, bimbo photos, intro of explicit messages. Uh-oh.
No. Well, you know what? It's the golden age. It's the piece presidency. It's the perfect cabinet.
Wow. Are we allowed to show the photos? Is this not PG friendly?
Yeah, I think they're going to throw them up anyway. It's Infowars nature will probably throw
them up anyway. You know, the Biden guy, the nuclear head and the nuclear stuff, he was running
on airports, stealing women's underwear and putting it on the bathroom, taking photos of it.
This is a new thing. Let's get in with some.
Oh, oh, okay. He got the Lululemon shirts on, baby. This is a big loophole.
What is he stuffing? Oh, man, the face. Yeah.
He's talking not stuffing. Wow, he's talking not. Wow. Okay. This all
makes sense. This is the first photo that we saw when he landed.
Yeah, they throw us a pile of pages and we got this. But this is Christy Nomes,
boyfriend, husband, whatever, Byron caught in busty, bimbo photos. Okay.
Wow. Wow. All right. So we got the inflation. We got the war. And now we got this. And here's
the thing. This will be the thing everyone pays attention to. And then your prices are going up,
your gasoline's going up, people dying at war. This will be the news cycle. This will be
Twitter for a week. So we got our priorities. Let's go to number five. We got Derek in New Jersey.
Hello. Hey, how you doing, Derek? Hi, Tim. It's wonderful to speak with you guys. I love the new
show. Thank you. And just give it a fresh, younger feel. I'm like a late generation. I'm like a
later one of the first exers. I'm 50, but I'm yeah, but I'm very youthful-minded, you know,
than many of my contemporaries. So I definitely appreciate the younger points of view. They
seem to be a little bit more savvy to what's going on. What's really going on. I think
oh, and real quick, Rex, you're dad played that video of you. When you, I forget, you were like
young kid like nine or 12 and you made that video of like explaining terrorism.
Terrorism 101. Yep. Yeah, I think that was it. It was genius, pure genius. I loved it.
Thank you. We got to do another one of those. We got to do an update to the update. Yeah,
they go ahead. I would love to see it. It was it wasn't it. It was like perfect. So yeah,
what I wanted to say was I was so glad to hear that you had signed the Dixon on as I found him
just like maybe three or four months ago. And as soon as I did, I was trying to call in and
he's never happened. Yeah, I was like, he's like the Alex Jones of finance, you know.
Mind blowing. And I would love to see like this would be my dream, maybe to see like a debate
between Mike. I don't know if we'll be at the beta or more of a discussion between like
Nick Wentes and Alex and maybe Simon Dixon and Catherine Austin fifth or someone.
Sure. I mean, interesting one. Sure. Well, this is the thing. This is the thing is like Simon
Dixon is literally like S tier quality guest host, whatever you're going to have them on the show,
whatever you want to call it. I really want to get him on the Alex Jones show. We've tried to
make stuff like that happen in the past. They're scheduling conflicts. There are things that arise,
but you're definitely going to see more of him. People like Suleiman, people like Alex Stein,
these people that are very active and have built up the very positive reputation for having
the best information or the best takes on X. That's really what we gravitated to. We had him on
the show months ago. We had him on the show months ago. We want to see that. You want to see a three
hour, not three hour, like hour and a half long discussion with them hour and 40 minute. We've
got it on our YouTube. Yeah, we've got on our YouTube. You can go find that in the bio, the link in
the bio. It was a great conversation and we went into even more depth. So sure, thank you so much
for your call. Really appreciate it. Derek, let's go to Steve in Alaska talking about you
were talking about him with the food price increases. Yep. So I'm one of those people that pay
extreme attention. I work in the oil and gas industry too. And my wife works in the oil and
gas industry and between the two of us, we made just over 230,000 last year. Wow.
So when we go to the store, there's just us in our dogs. We look at the prices of things.
And as an example, beef, hamburger, 80, 20 hamburgers, $10 a pound at Safeway in
Kenya, Alaska. Now you get the same beef over a little mama pop store about two miles away
for like $6 or $5 to $6 a pound. But even so, you go back pre-covid that same beef was about
$3 a pound. Yes. Now we talk about the war in Iran and you talk about fuel, you talk about oil
prices. You start looking at the impact of that. Not only a food price is going to skyrocket.
Food availability is going to go down because of the lack of nitrogenous fertilizer. I did work
at a fertilizer plant for a company named Agrium that's in Nikisky, Alaska. But it's shut down right
now that you look at the lack we've lost what 60 plus percent of our nitrogenous fertilizer in
the last four years. And that doesn't even include other stuff like it's natural phenomenon that's
coming like the grand solar minimum that nobody seems to talk about. Well, let me add to what you're
saying here because we did do a deep dive on this. You might have not caught it because this was
one of the earlier episodes that we were doing on the journal. And I specifically covered not
just the gas prices people are covering, but the diesel and the nitrogen and the fertilizer.
Those are the real meat and potato that actually leads down even more than just the corporations
themselves gouging us and lying to our faces. But specifically when I look at these situations
and I look at what the gas prices are going, we got only farms coming out and Trump is doing
do that little dance you do. Yeah, where he's jerking two dudes off. And he's just dancing
in front of the farmers and it's like dude, you're literally getting railed behind the scenes and
you guys are cheering because this man, do you know anything about E15 fuel because I'm sure you do,
like they're they're now trying to allow that to be used for the farmers. But it's going to
destroy the ozone layer from what you understand. Like it's not the best thing, right?
Yeah, yeah, no, I fully understand what you're saying. Trust me, I do. And when you start looking
at the prices of diesel, like I used to heat my house with fuel oil and it was non-road tax
diesel. So basically it's the same stuff you ran your equipment on. And we were paying the last
time oil went up over a hundred dollars a barrel. We were paying like almost six dollars a gallon.
So when you start paying six dollars, eight dollars, ten dollars a gallon for fuel diesel at the pump,
the truckers costs are going to get passed onto the consumer. The consumers just can you talk
about getting railed. And that doesn't even include the monopolies by all the rest of it. And
let's let's go back to the corporations real quick. All those corporations are owned by Black
Rock Van Garden State Street, 30 percent plus by every one of those companies. And they're the ones
that are also behind the oil. They're behind all of it and it goes back to the Sherman
anti-trust laws breaking up for the Rockefellers. They understood and they understand the bankers
understand the anti-trust laws. They're not going to get caught again. So they created investment
industry. This is why this is why we call for new legislation. This is why we demand the existing
legislation on the books already be enforced. Thank you so much. Started to cut your call short
Stephen Alaska. Sorry to everyone else in the book. Call back. Call back. Call back. We're going to
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