21 Questions 3/20: What's Been the Most Surprising Move From Chiefs Free Agency?

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Let's dive right into it to Namaste Ram.

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Nick Mach information, wait, Nick Mach misinformation officer.

He asks, who is the best player player, probably still available at nine that you don't want

the Chiefs to draft?

Ooh, any of the tackles?

Yeah.

I don't know if they will be the best player available.

I've maybe been a little bit, I've maybe been put a little down on downs by Nadie Lane

and even listening to the athletic football show earlier today, with Robert Mays and Dan

Brugler and the guys there in Hellman.

There was a little bit of that talk again as well of just like, hey, he's an incredible

football player who is ready to play high level football tomorrow, but the high level traits

aren't necessarily their physical traits.

So yeah, I mean, I don't know, this is kind of the draft class for that, right, where

you might have great players who you actually kind of don't want because you're really rooting

for a couple.

This top eight is going to be fascinating.

Well, it's so crazy, like I know that like, two fans and us were so used to trying to

predict 31 other picks before the Chiefs pick at 32, right?

And it's been, it's been a fun exercise to vary just eight, really, really only seven

picks because when you talk about number one, it seems like it's pretty well locked.

I thought we were pretty close to penciling in number two, but it seems like there's still

some stuff up in the air about R.V.L. Reece, maybe David Bailey will go there at that point.

Maybe it's Rubin.

It goes there, but we know that they probably like a defensive end.

I'll be interested to see how much of his R.V.L. Reece actually a defensive end is going

to be a question to see in the NFL, but player available at nine that I don't want the

Chiefs of Draft.

It probably is Caleb Downs, and I'm not like so V.M.E. League, V.M.E.

Vietnam.

You're not V.M.E.

I could, I can, I believe I can cooperate that.

How do I say that word, vehemently, vehemently, yes, I was trying to sneak an extra syllable

in there, I think somewhere, but whatever Josh said, I don't, what Josh said about taking

Caleb Downs like Maddie Lane is Maddie Lane is pretty, pretty against it.

If you listen to the last mock draft, he lays out his reasoning why I totally understand

that.

If you are trying to sell, and I talk about this on that football show a little bit too,

if you're trying to sell your offseason as rebuilding your team with all these non-premium

positions, it's kind of a tough sell.

Our best players that we added were a running back, a safety, a other safety, right, so

it's like you don't have any premium positions there.

And while I do also, I'm starting to, I don't know if I'm coming around, but I'm starting

to understand the tackle conversation a little bit more, Josh.

That might be, that might be where it all starts, is I'm starting to understand it potentially

a bit more.

Do I like it yet?

I don't think so, but if I'm truly surveying all the options, I'm starting to understand

the thought process of, okay, Jaylen Moore is there, but it's only for a one year deal.

Do you really want to button that down, but I also understand you've spent a lot of money

and a lot of capital and a lot of draft, draft capital, and that offensive line already,

do you really want to spend some more?

I don't know, but it probably is down's, maybe, I think David Bailey will be gone regardless

of if the chiefs get that.

I think somebody's going to grab him.

Even for being banged goes, I think David Bailey will go type of deal, right?

I think that those guys could be potentially gone before the chiefs get there.

I'm trying to think about their positions.

Jordan Tyson is an interesting one because of his inconsistency with injuries and his

ability to be on the field, best available, ability is availability.

So for him, it'll be interesting to see.

I know that little preview here because this podcast is going to go up before the draft

show.

They talk with Trevor Sikama about wide receivers as the position they talked about.

His number one wide receiver, Josh, Jordan Tyson, as he said, his number one receiver

in the draft is.

And he said it was between Tyson and Lemon, where his top two.

So he's got Tate as his third best wide receiver.

I haven't heard, tell me if I'm wrong.

I haven't heard anybody deviate from those being the top three in some order though.

Those are the top three.

And then there's, there's kind of a clear drop off after those three.

And when you talk about 29 as well, like it depends on where that kind of second tier

of wide receiver start to go if the chiefs feel like they can get in on wide receiver,

right?

I think Amari Cooper is Amari Omar.

Anyway, O Cooper from Indiana, I think that he can be an interesting guy for the chiefs,

but he might go before the chiefs pick a 29.

And again, with like the edge class as well, it might make more sense to draft a wide

receiver a little bit higher because you're not going to get a Lemon Tyson Tate type of

guy at 29, but the edge could be a little bit better if it's like a Zion young, right?

Like it for out of Missouri.

So like there's a couple of, there's a couple of edge options kind of down there a little

bit more to honestly, there's like a TJ Miller.

I think it's a thing.

TJ Miller.

The tackled.

Oh, man, maybe I did that.

Yeah.

I did do that.

Um, who's the tackled a Clemson Miller tackle Clemson?

Blake Miller.

Yeah.

Blake Miller.

Clemson has a has a defense event named TJ Parker.

Okay.

You did.

We got there.

We figured it out.

I did that.

At least I didn't say B.J.

Black.

Um, Blake Miller is a guy if they are instead of taking a tackle that could be there at 29.

But so a long road to a short thought of just like who could be the best player available

still there?

Caleb Downs.

Uh, I think I think it's kind of it.

But Casey from Casey wants to know, Josh, what is surprised you most about the chiefs

for agency moves generally?

Um, I, I know I've said this now on several shows.

So sorry if you've already heard this one.

I don't know if it's surprised as much as it's the lesson.

Well, okay, never mind.

You know what?

I'm not going to make it about the lesson of it.

I will.

There is a surprise.

Okay.

I'm a starting defensive end on this roster right now and I know my vegetables and they're

not great.

My arms are not long enough to make up for my own lack of explosion.

The biggest surprise, certainly, is that they have not, they've lost more defensive

ends than they've added.

My Dana Charles and Minna who have moved on and they have simply not, but I don't even

think there's been like a weird low key, you know, Mike Calliendo, Jack Cochrane kind

of deal.

Um, I, I assume I assume they've got Cam Jordan on speed dial for after the draft and

it's like, Hey, just we'll see how things go and, and you find someone like that.

I'm not mad at that because I, there weren't that I was so I, I've been quoting Maddie

Lane a lot.

You were meant into the fold my brain lately, um, but like he made the point I think on

a lab a while ago.

Like, look, you can look at the contracts of a middle market edge free agent and say, man,

that's too much money, but it's not too much money.

It's what they cost.

That's the going rate.

So there weren't a lot of deals that I was like, Oh, man, I would have matched that.

Um, was AJ Appanesan, it got like one for five, right?

Like that was one of those that felt like, I mean, he's, he's playing F.O. football

before.

Then you can say for your draft picks and the guy you might end up within the fourth

round or whatever.

So, um, even if they get Bane at nine, or let's, if they get any edge rusher at nine,

they get double dip again at the fourth or fifth round.

And I'd still call Cam Jordan.

I just don't think the floor's high enough there yet because right now it's like, man,

if George Carloff, this in action, Jolotti, if either of them aren't great, you're in

a really difficult position there now.

So, um, maybe it's Mike Dana on a vet men before the, before training camp or whatever.

And that's fine.

But you, I think you need floor and ceiling at edge right now and they decided to what

my deer tail point was.

They spent money on those non-premium positions.

I think so they'll just draft to the premium positions, but that means spags of starting

defensive ends are all going to be, I mean, there's a world where this top four rotation,

the top four rotational defensive ends are all 25 or younger.

That's right.

We're there right now.

And even if they draft the key mezzador, he'll be 20 or five, too.

Yes.

24 because well, Carloff has turned 25 in April.

So let's keep it 25, but those are real chance that they've got two older defensive tackles

starting with, with Omar behind him, obviously, younger, right.

And those top four, it could be Carloff, this Jolotti in two rookies and you'd have an extremely

young group, which I'm not against, but it's, it's off the beaten path for how spags

operated.

It is.

And I think that kind of is in the same vein of what I've been surprised about and then

she's free agency is that they haven't added an edge rush or if they haven't added to

that room.

But then again, you look at the free agency, the free agency class, there's not a ton of

guys out there.

I mean, they haven't widened to the wide receiver room either.

And I think it's a little bit of a surprise considering, you know, all the buzz that about

Rishi Rice and his going his potential availability as well.

So it's like, they haven't able to been add to those two positions that are pretty, pretty

impositions.

Truthfully, wide receiver and edge are like the two positions that like everyone needs in

the draft.

And it's like, all right, if you can get an extra wide receiver, an extra edge, that's

okay.

Let's just go ahead and get up.

Let's go.

Keep piling them on.

Like more wood to the fire.

We'll take it more kind of like that is that is a, that is a pick that everyone needs

and a position that everyone needs.

And there's a reason that like those good wide receivers and good edges don't really hit

the market because they tend to resize and stay with the teams that have them.

And that's why in free agency, I think you see a lot of it and I thought this was really

enlightening from Brett Vitch when he talked about it at the podium and the combine is

in free agency, we try to do non-premium positions because there's not a lot of premium

guys that hit the, that hit the free agency at premium positions, and you want to try

to get those premium positions in the draft when they're cost controlled or younger, there's

a lot.

And then you can like reassign them and you have them, right?

And they're fun.

They have a spot where they can do that at the draft at nine, where they can draft a

premium guy at a premium position.

And we're talking about tackles and we're talking about a right tackle.

Sure is interesting.

Sure is a good point.

So this brings up a question to Storm 7850, who are your top five players for pick nine?

Power rank, we, oh, spin this into a power ranking, power ranked your options for a player

for a pick at pick nine.

Wow.

Okay.

I literally do have a, like a small size legal pad here that I've literally done this

exercise a couple of times to, this was like two or three weeks ago.

And summary, are we, are we allowed to include guys that we don't think will probably be

there?

Like it's already on my list.

I think so.

I think who would just top five guys you'd pick at pick nine, consider it.

I think if they are there, is what this is kind of saying.

Okay.

I mean, I've got, I think I have, I think I have my three, my five.

Then, um, I start with your five, yeah, um, do you, do you have, we're going to reveal

the minute order?

Um, oh, okay.

Interesting.

We don't have to reveal the minute order.

We can just rapidly jump.

I think we probably should, I don't have my five yet, I don't have my number five.

I need to pull up my, I need to pull up a chart, I need to pull, cause you know, I've made

the styles line, right?

Um, the sunny styles line.

And you have more than five on the upside of the, the styles line, uh, yeah, I do.

Uh, barely.

Okay.

I've got, I've got, I think I have my five and it's really going to, it is going to go very

well with the conversation we just had.

Okay.

Uh, number five for you, Josh.

Jordan Tyson.

Okay.

Um, I think he's the least, the least, the least hand then glove fit, um, for the chiefs

actually need it wide receiver, but if there are three receivers who really matter in

this draft, if he's the best player available, that's who the, the lab took on that, that

mock you just referred to, um, I'll, I'll put Jordan Tyson in five.

I'm going Jeremiah love it.

Five.

Wow.

You know what?

That's fun.

Um, Jeremiah love because good ass football player, he's probably the best player in the,

in the draft.

And if he's there, like, I don't know if you saw the athletic beat rider mock draft.

Yeah.

He went 14.

Uh, if he is there at nine, I think that you're just like, if nobody wants it, I guess

I'll take it type of, right?

You know, like, uh, from the hamburger, uh, from the hamper hot dog car scene, uh, from,

I think you should leave.

Uh, I think you just kind of have to take Jeremiah love there.

That's the thing.

I think that's a good call.

Yeah.

Um, so number four for me, yes, four to you.

McKay lemon.

Um, I've got two receivers at the bottom there.

I, you can really, I could probably get lemon as high as one on this list.

One through four is all very, very close for me, but I got lemon at four.

I've had sunny styles up for sunny styles up for everyone above this is above the

styles line.

But I think styles and, and I think I made the styles line before the chief sign Kenneth

Walker.

So Jeremiah love right now.

So I'm looking at my chart is on the sunny styles, which I still think you should select

just Jeremiah love over sunny styles, but not on this step.

Not sure how rinking.

Sure.

Uh, sunny styles phenomenal football player.

He's a free athlete.

He's built like a linebacker can cover like a safety, which built like a defensive end

really can cover like a safety and can hit like a defensive end.

So he's kind of just an alien and you just take really good athletes at that position.

For you, Josh.

This is going to be controversial number three for me is Ruben Bane.

Interesting.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

You could look, there's an argument way up the, up the chart here.

I think he'd be an awesome fit.

I think the two guys I have above him, uh, call to me in very specific ways that's not his

fault.

I would be thrilled for Ruben Bane to be the pick at nine, but he's three on my list.

Number three for me is going to be, uh, Carnell Tate, Carnell Tate, uh, the Ohio State

wide receiver, very good wide receiver.

Now again, as you mentioned, all one through four are very tight in terms of like, uh, how

how I, how I like them and they, they could change any given day.

But there's a little bit, there's something about Carnell Tate, uh, that I saw when he

played against the Miami Hurricanes and the college football semi-final, I believe is

what it was.

That's right.

And he was kind of afraid to go across the middle, uh, those, those, that Kane's defense

had him a little bit spooked and that has me a little, a little bit spooked.

We'll see the guy like that because he's going to be playing probably a little bit more

better guys than just around the Miami defense.

Well, no offense to the Miami defense.

They went to the National JV chip, but he's probably going to see a little bit better

guys than that.

Uh, Carnell Tate, number three, number two to you, Josh.

Carnell Tate.

Okay.

I'll find out.

Let's find out together.

Everybody.

Yeah.

I, um, again, I, I could flip, limit and tape, depending on what's out of the bed.

I wake up in the morning.

I could, I could flip the receivers in some of the past rushers, but you got a chance to

take the number one available, not the number one available Ohio State wide receiver in your

draft class.

I, I just, I would really love the chiefs to just cannonball into a legit unquestioned.

This is our number one receiver for the next five years.

Yeah.

And if it's tape, I'd be thrilled.

I got lemon too for me just because I think lemon fits a lot of the stuff that they like

to do.

Like he could be a perfect, I think, for she writes for placement because they're more

likely to me.

Yeah.

He, he seems like.

So here's the conversation too.

Like I feel like he's better for the chiefs and like Carnell Tate might be a better wide

receiver.

It's like, yeah.

Absolutely.

There's a little bit of some stuff going on right there with lemon and Tate.

I think they're all very interchangeable in number one to Josh, Arville Reese.

I don't think he's going to be there, but if we're playing the game this way, if you

sit there, I can just have anybody from this draft and put him on the chiefs right now.

I don't think we're talking about Reese because no one thinks he's going to be there.

Sure.

I love the idea of being like, Hey, Spags, can you get Micah Parsons out of this guy and

just see what happens?

I think that would be absolutely electric.

So Reese is number one for me.

It seems incredibly unlikely that he'll be in the picture.

But just if you got to do the big board, I think that's my one.

I debated on putting number one for Nanom and Doza so that he's kind of like, hold the

league hostage and be like, Hey, we'll take two first, we'll take three firsts for him,

right?

Give us 10, Mike Floreo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

One I got Rubenbane just because I think that he's one of like, it's a position of

need.

You need that position.

You can always need more past rushers and watch the tape.

He's a good past rusher.

Don't overthink Rubenbane.

I know he's got short arms, but I'm sure he'll go to his protein.

There'll be 37 injarms because that's apparently what happens all the time now.

What's, you know, it's so funny, Josh, and we got, you guys got our list there.

Then we'll take a break here.

I want to talk about what's so funny about these measurements because all of the tweets

coming out now are, wow, his arms are actually longer.

How come it's, how come it's not the other, like, how come it's not like they're lying

here because the protein actually has like bias and towards of like making their arms

longer, making their players look as good as possible, right?

And they're like, wow, look, look at all these measurements that we're wrong and indie.

Like how come that's the conversation is not like, look at all of these pro days that

are inflating their players numbers, like that should be the conversation.

Well, I know, I think I know why that's not the conversation, but that's kind of maddening

to me.

It's just like, oh, shocker at his own pro day.

His numbers went up.

Yeah.

No faster and bigger and his arms got longer and he caught every pass, yeah.

Yeah.

It's just Ruben Bain in the Wilt, the 100 picture, but it's just him holding a sign that says

32 inch arms.

It's like, yeah, I believe that.

It's going to feed families.

Just like this break.

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All right.

Welcome back to 21 questions.

We'll do one more footballing question and then we'll go into nonsense questions.

We need to actually have another phone.

I got so excited.

It's okay.

We also have another request for power ranking, so let me put this on your radar right

now.

Power rank, your animated movies.

Animated movies is what we have up next and that will be coming along shortly.

I need to find a new space on my piece of paper, but I got one of my two seed.

Yeah, I had to put it on your radar so you could prep for it, but I want to ask you this

question first.

I like the wildest move.

This is from leady seven, predict the wildest move that will take place on day one of

the draft from a team.

It's really usually the thing that sparks that is quarterbacks.

100% and I wanted to say like three first round quarterbacks.

Like that's the crazy thing that happened, but I don't crazy, but who would it be?

Like getting two is a little bit of a question.

I could, the jets have their own pick and the cults pick, right?

I don't think that's quite, the cults pick is too high for them to go tie Simpson and

that's not really a crazy move, right?

Like I'm trying to figure out what that would be.

I could see they're being just a desperately thirsty quarterback team who falls in love

and does that.

It sounds like AJ Brown is going to be a Patriot eventually.

That's not going to happen on draft night though, it has to be post June 1st, I guess.

I don't know how much we're going to go through that charade.

Here's maybe, maybe here's one just in terms of a player going way higher that I was thinking

about mentioning in my top five, actually, for the chiefs.

Here's one crazy take honorable mention.

If the chiefs have a decent board at nine and they take Kenyans to Deek, I would be

like, oh, bleep, they feel something.

They see something like they're in love in a way that makes me instantly excited about

what their vision for his future is, but I don't, he's not going to go five.

So I feel like he might have a little bit of clearly just the best Titan available and

that's a difference maker, especially in the modern NFL, but it also sounds like this

class is super big, super deep at Titan.

Yeah, I don't know, I want to pick a quarterback thing for something like truly irresponsible

or like a player trade for a couple picks on draft day, but I think you've seen so many

trades already that it feels relatively settled.

I'm sure it's not, but that's kind of how it feels from where I'm at right now.

Am I missing anything?

No, I think I'm with you.

I like the Sedique call out because the Sedique range seems so crazy right now.

It's like either he might be there at 29 or he's gone before nine, it seems like those

are like the two options right now for for Sedique.

So if a team just like jumps Sedique's value just because all right, let's just go get

our guy type of deal.

Like we like this guy.

Let's just go get him.

Let's not, let's not try to play games with it.

The first thing that came to my mind was it's a team drafting Ty Simpson, whether it's

trading, I just think straight up drafting Ty Simpson in the first time would be crazy.

I think there could be a team desperate enough to do that.

And again, that's the situation.

Let's just go get our guy.

Let's not play any games.

Let's go get the guy that we think that we like.

That would probably be the most crazy thing that would happen in the draft.

I think it would be Ty Simpson going one, like not one, holy shit, that would be crazy.

The Raiders are like, never mind.

We don't like Fernando.

We like Ty Simpson better.

That would be huge for the chief.

We can get this quarterbacks out of the way.

Nice.

What a smoke screen.

That would be insane.

Raiders aren't smart enough to do that.

But yeah, I think that's probably the craziest.

I've just been too busy thinking about animated movies.

I was just googling a check.

I don't want to get this wrong.

I know.

I know this top five.

And here's the other part two, because as we're going to move on to that question now,

the other part two is like, it would be easier if we were doing it by like studio.

So like if it was Pixar movies, because there's some Dreamworks ones that I really like.

There's some illumination ones that I really like.

There's a lot of movies recently that came out that I like, but are they good enough

to put into like, you know, and there's also like older animated movies as well.

It's like this.

I almost think you have to like genre, almost a genre studio this out a little bit.

I agree.

I really, I am kind of, I have, my top three are written down in pin in order and I feel

relatively good about one, two, three.

I four and five are very much up in the air, but I don't, it's certainly not, it can't

be a list of just your top five Pixar movies.

I just don't think that's, I don't think that's right, but I also maybe, maybe it should

be.

Yeah.

I'm like, looking around my office for stuff, because I'm like, what, what do I love

so much that I have merch of?

And if I've reached that cut off, then I should be able to like make sure it's on my top

five.

But I think 100% 100%.

No, that's, I don't think they're, and I also, I don't think there is a Ninja Turtles

or a Pokemon movie that's going to make it into my top five.

Sure.

TV shows, the original Pokemon movie in 2000 or whatever that I, you know, obviously

was huge, but that's not, I haven't, I haven't revisited that.

Man, is that, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a weighted question, they're

weighted, a weighted topic for sure.

I've got DVDs in storage out in the main area in that big like antique trunk and I want

to go look at that and just figure out like what I'm going to feel stupid for not having

on my list and people start tweeting us about this.

I know.

Um, okay.

Are you think you're ready for it?

Do you want to answer one more question before we do this?

Let's answer one more question.

Okay.

I'm good with that because I'm not, I, I don't know the, I've got movies jotted down

but I don't really have an order and we're definitely going to be giving some honorable

mentions.

I feel like that's going to happen too.

Um, Hoki Chi wants to know what's better reading a book before seeing the adapted movie

or seeing the movie unspoiled.

This is a great question actually.

Awesome question.

Probably on the new project, Hail Mary, which is just absolutely popping off right now.

Um, I would say that I would like it to be a person that reads the book and then sees

the movie but I'm not often that person, um, in a way that feels bad to admit.

But now I'm at a point where I am avoiding as, I, I also, I hate spoilers.

I really do.

I love just, even as Renee and I have started going through just like a bunch of movies

that we haven't seen that people were, I was like, how have you not seen whatever, um,

if I can, in there are a couple of newer movies where I have known a little bit like just

known that it's, you know, rave reviews or whatever, but I want to start it without knowing

where it goes or what happens.

So I get that, that, that, that feels like that honest experience of the first time singing

a movie.

Um, so I, I love that and I'm avoiding project, Hail Mary stuff and I'll probably just

go see it as soon as we can go see it and, um, and try to get it unspoiled.

Um, so I, I do lean that way and then like Renee just recently read like the Jurassic Park

books after having seen movies a million times and, um, I think she read Godfather without

having seen the movie.

Did know that was a blam's pre movie.

Yeah.

It is.

Um, I kind of read any of those.

It's kind of crazy for like all the movies that, you know, you've watched and then you

realize, oh, this is actually an adaptation of a book.

It's like, especially now in the, the landscape of how film and cinema is today and how movie

making is and how expensive it is, studios are less willing to take risks on original

projects.

And so it's like almost everything now is a remake of an old movie or it's a story

that people already know.

And like that is, that is the, there's not a ton of original projects out there to

get big studio funding, which is, it's disappointing, I would say.

And Josh, you never talked about this.

I can't remember if it was on air or not, but just about like the death of like big box

office comedies.

Yeah.

There's not a ton of big box office comedies because they don't want to take that risk

anymore.

And a lot of those big box office comedies made money in like the DVD sales.

Like that was how like, and nobody's buying DVDs anymore.

I don't even put this stuff out on Blu-ray.

I don't think.

I think to find a Blu-ray copy of something, you got to really hunt for it.

But when it comes to whether I'm going to read the book or sing the movie unspoiled,

I'm probably going movie unspoiled.

Josh, again, I can't remember if we had this conversation online or not on, if it was

on everything else about like they are two inherently different art forms.

So they are going to be different.

There is no such thing as having a perfect adaptation of a book because it is in its purest

form, it is not going to be the book.

It is just simply not going to be there's too many limitations to make a book, a movie,

and it's hard to make a movie a book in the other way, right?

So I think that like, especially when you just talk about screenplays, right?

When you talk about wicked, wicked was much the first movie was just as long as the whole

entire play.

Longer.

It was longer than the entire play.

And they made two movies.

Like that's the adaptation for the big screen is a little bit I think people underestimate

in that regard.

I would much rather see the movie unspoiled.

Now I went and I have watched a YouTube video about weathering heights like the original

book about weathering heights knowing that going into it, but I also knew going into

weathering heights that it wasn't actually an adaptation of a book.

It was like a new telling of the story type of deal, right?

So and I appreciate it when films are honest about that and when they're like, yeah,

we use the story for inspiration, but like it's our telling of like how it is.

And I think that that's an interesting blend as well at least my top two animated films

are both adaptations of something animated films about how about that?

I think I know it's your number one is would make a lot of sense for you to know.

It's phenomenal.

I don't.

Man, fuck.

I mean, I'm having such a hard time putting all these movies that I wrote.

I wrote down three, one, two, three with confidence and then I wrote down one, two, three,

four, five, six, seven more.

I'm trying to figure out my four and five slot.

I see it.

Well, I wrote down three feeling pretty good about my top three and then realizing, oh,

wow, that one's not in the top three.

And then having to kind of shift this around, okay, are you ready?

I think you're ready.

He's subjective.

And it's just this is fair.

That's fair.

It's power rankings.

Oh, man.

Do I want to, I can't, I feel like I got to leave four four and I've got a lot fighting

for five.

I'm not going to go here, I'm not going to go here, I'm not going to go here.

It's going to be, it's going to be, it might just be what I left.

It's very normy.

I have a very normy four five.

Well, yeah, I don't think it's going to be more, more normy than mine.

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I'll start.

So you started the last one.

I'll start this one.

Okay.

Okay.

Number five, I think this will take us home.

I think this is going to be the anchor of the Toyon questions.

I think this is a great question.

It is.

It really is.

Number five, I'm going with Megamind.

I think Megamind is criminally...

I think Megamind is criminally underrated.

There's a lot of good dialogue.

There's a lot of good writing.

I think it's a very funny movie.

I love it.

But Megamind, I think, is a criminally underrated movie.

That's why I got it.

Number five.

I mean, I was underrating it.

I didn't even cross to my mind in this conversation, but my mind's not mega enough.

That's great.

My number five, I got to demote one.

I got to be true to my heart.

My number five is the Incredibles.

It came out at such an important time.

Dude, I hope we have 10 different movies.

We would be amazing if we had 10 different movies.

That's not my list.

Incredibles is not on my list.

Yeah.

It is one of my favorite Pixar movies.

We'll go through my honorable mentions after me.

I don't want to spoil anything.

100%.

I have done something I didn't want to do, but yeah, the Incredibles is my number five.

What's your number four?

My number four is Cars.

And it pains me that Cars is this low, true to my list.

See, look, we're off to the great movie.

It's so good.

It is a phenomenal movie.

The character of Mator is so good.

The concept of Cars is very thought provoking, even.

And to like, what do they have in their world?

And it actually opened up a bunch of like planes, right?

I opened up that series.

And there's a whole Cars universe.

Cars, the original, the first one.

Number two, socks, number three is okay.

But the first one is the best one.

Cars number four from me, Josh here four.

My number four is Toy Story.

I have not been watched the OG Toy Story in a very long time,

but I feel like it is, this is holding a legacy spot that it very much obviously deserves.

I think it fundamentally changed my brain chemistry at a young age.

I still have a hard time, throwing away any toys with faces on them.

So I mean, I just, I have to tip my hat.

Toy Story feels kind of low at four, but that's, again,

that's a lifetime achievement award.

Toy Story?

Not on my list.

We might do it, dude.

I think we might go, I don't think you're going to have any,

I don't think you're going to have my top three.

Number three for me?

Shrek.

Shrek is a phenomenal film.

It is a great story.

I think that Shrek is, I don't want to say criminally underrated,

because I don't think that's true.

I think people, I think Shrek gets its flowers,

but I think it needs more flowers.

To me, it is a very good, just movie in general,

storytelling, the universe building.

It's phenomenal.

It's great.

In the tongue and cheekway of poking at all the other fairy tales,

so good.

Shrek, number three for me.

It was what I had written at five,

and then I crossed it out for the Incredibles.

I bounced it right at the last second.

Fair.

Number three for me is my number one Disney Pixar movie.

Okay.

That number three, Monsters Inc.

Not on your list?

Not on my list.

Oh, let's go.

I think it's my favorite, my favorite Pixar movie.

Again, just like the timing of it, the characters,

everything about it just had me, and it's in its hold so completely

that I think about it very, very highly.

Great film.

One of the first movies that I had watched as a child,

and I remember I cried so much at the end of the movie

because of the ending, and I watched it back

maybe a few years ago, still cried.

It is, it is, it still gets me.

Number two for me is a movie I saw recently.

This is a recent edition that I thought so highly of.

I have it at my number two.

I have it at my number two.

Two?

Zootopia's number two.

Wow!

That movie, the way you don't, here's a thing about Zootopia.

It's two hours long, and that's kind of long for a kid movie.

But it needs to be two hours long for the story.

Like the story itself, the world that they build out,

the story I think is so good, do I have movies with all?

No, I don't.

My number one does not have a sequel.

I was like, do I have all sequel movies?

But the world they've built is so good.

It's so, I think the story is good and has layers to it.

It's more than just like your typical kids animated movie.

I think there's a little bit more to it.

And it's been so thought-provoking that I've been thinking

about Zootopia ever since I watched it.

That's what you want.

That's a sign of a great movie.

Zootopia two, Josh or two.

My number two is my criminally underrated animated movie.

And I think there might be some administrative work to do

and you're the top of my list here in a moment.

But there is no question whatsoever in my book.

Deeply underrated, deeply foundational to my childhood

and the man I've become.

My number two is over the hedge.

Oh, how can I forget over the hedge?

It has an unbelievable cast and unbelievable premise.

They don't pull any punches.

The bad guys are the HOA lady and the pest control guy.

Yeah.

The dynamic is so good.

The soundtrack from bin folds, are you kidding me?

It's amazing and I've watched it somewhat recently.

I would say if you have not seen over the hedge either ever

or recently, it's really worth it.

Great to watch with the kids if you want.

Watch it by yourself if you need to.

I watched it and I remember writing my little

one-line cheeky letterbox review and it was just

this film radicalized me and I think it did.

I really think it did.

I love over the hedge.

It's my number two and it would have no problem

with it being one.

Over the hedge is a movie that I had on DVD.

And when you have it on DVD, it's always the one.

It's just like, oh, you watched that movie

over and over all the time then when, yeah.

So yes, I did.

Great film.

I love over the hedge.

I had the over the hedge PS2 game.

That was a really good one as well.

I think I had that on GameCube, man.

I forgot about that.

I can relate to that.

I gotta find that sucker.

The guy on it.

Ripped.

Okay, my number one.

God, I'm glad you brought up over the hedge.

I know what your number one is.

My number one, Ratatouille.

Ratatouille is a...

I forgot about Ratatouille.

It's a great movie.

Like there's not even a great movie.

Like the premise, the idea of a rat controlling a chef

is great.

The oxymoron of a rat being a really good cook.

The animation in there.

It's such a good movie.

Ratatouille is a great film.

Man, now you're right.

I mean, there's no, I have no notes.

It's, I don't know that it would have even made it

at my top five if I had remembered it

because we got a real log jam in here.

I mean, heavyweight after heavyweight in your top five.

Unbelievable.

And then my number one, no question to anyone

who can see my screen at full width during shows

or has ever talked to me about any movies ever.

It's stop motion, but it's stop motion animation.

Correct.

Given it to Fantastic Mr. Fox.

It's my favorite movie.

Period.

It's my favorite animated movie.

If you wanted to go computer animated,

then I'd, I'd just move everything up a notch

and probably sneak in Shrek.

I guess, or some of my other honorable mentions

that we can run through here in a minute.

But Fantastic Mr. Fox over the hedge,

monsters inked my one, two, three.

I feel great about my medal stand.

Wow, I mean, over the hedge, much like Megamind,

I think both of those movies are very, very, very,

both same studio, by the way, both frameworks.

Dreamworks has some bangers that I don't think

get talked about enough.

I agree.

And wow, I can't believe I forgot about over the hedge.

I'm glad it's a good one.

Zootopia sneak into that there.

There might be some recent sea biased on my part,

but I really did like Zootopia.

The staying power of Zootopia was pretty impressive

on, for me at least.

I'm going to read, I'm going to read the cast list

for over the hedge, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

2006 film from Dreamworks Animation.

Bruce Willis, Gary Shandling, Steve Carell,

Juan de Psykes, Nick Dolti,

Wim Shatner, Thomas Hayden Church, Alison Channey,

Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara, R.I.P.

I've got the bean.

Are you kidding me?

Oh my god.

You're kidding me?

Ben Foltz did a whole soundtrack.

I would, I would debate switching over the hedge for mega,

or mega-mind for over the hedge.

Rock and sub, it's a banger.

We did have, we did have 10 different movies.

It was just so great.

On, on, crazy.

Honorable mentions for me here real quick

before we head out of here.

Monsters versus aliens.

Oh, great call.

Yeah.

Another good one that I always enjoy watching.

They've got good Bob, the, the, like,

blob character, hilarious, comedic relief.

Stephen Colbert, the president in that.

I bet.

Right.

Yeah.

Madagascar.

Great film.

We didn't even mention Madagascar.

I like to move it, move it.

King Julian.

King Julian.

Talk about a good soundtrack.

Madagascar.

We, as a family, we had that.

We just being our car.

The Madagascar soundtrack.

Is will I am the hippo in the, the male hippo

in a later one or something?

I think, I'm just ripping it now.

We're going to just find out if this is true.

I think will I am, did like, I love him big.

I love him.

Oh, yeah.

Motomoto.

Motomoto.

And then the last one that I have for Honorable mention.

Oh, wait, did I already say Monsters versus aliens?

Yes.

Okay, Madagascar.

I did just watch Hopper's.

Hopper's is pretty funny.

Yeah, I haven't seen it.

I'll probably, probably check that out

when it streams at some point.

Yeah, you got to, you got to get it on a streaming.

I don't know if it's like to drop everything you're doing

and go to the movie theater for.

But it was a, it was very entertaining.

Our Roaches for you, Josh.

That's proud of you.

Dude, I wrote down only Honorable mentions

that you did not mention.

Extremely close taking my five spot, Lilo and Stitch.

That is super high on my list.

And just maybe six.

I don't know.

On a different day, it might be four.

Yeah.

A little off the beaten path for different,

and then Lion King with Lion King and Toy Story

I was going to pick, and I went Toy Story

instead of going Lion King there.

Of course, it deserves to be in this conversation.

And then three different flavors.

Isle of dogs, also West Anderson,

stop motion animation, which wasn't going to double up

on those.

Prince of Egypt had to be a load bearing piece

of both of our childhood.

Yes.

And it was a banger.

It actually, it wasn't just one of those studios

that makes us, it was, it was absolute heat

and then spirited away to get us a little bit

to get us a little ghibli in there

and a little bit of, my name or Totoro

would also be on that list.

But I can't say that I've,

I've seen spirited away a number of times.

But I mean, just truly, I feel like the fourth,

this, it's like the NFL draft.

Yeah.

Through 12 right now, could just, four through 15

could really shuffle.

But fantastic, Mr. Fox over the hedge

in Monsters Inc for me are my clear medal stand.

Incredible.

Well, I hope this podcast made your medal stand.

No, that was five.

Incredible.

You said incredible.

I know.

It was my number five.

I'm really sorry.

I'm sorry.

I didn't deserve that from me.

That's it for this podcast.

I hope it made your way.

I don't like it ended on that tone.

We just, we picked in different movies.

We talked about a lot of different movies.

And I hope you guys appreciated this episode

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