218 | The House of Hades Ch. 18–20A w/ Sarah Barra (LIVE in Brisbane!)

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Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, what is going on?

It is a delight to be here in your lovely city, in your lovely country, in your lovely state,

my first time actually doing Brisbane proper.

When we were here last time, it was only like one night, but this time,

been here for like a whole week, and I gotta say,

when I told people I was going to Brisbane for a while,

a lot of people in other cities were like five days in Brisbane really.

I've had a delightful time, I don't understand,

whatever one was freaking out about.

I've had a lovely time, we ended up going on like a river cruise to a koala sanctuary.

We've gone to multiple botanical gardens, we've gone on a bunch of heights,

the baby's gone swinging on all of your playgrounds in your city,

like it's been a delight, it's been really good,

and it has been really good, even the way it started,

because I hopped off the plane at whatever the three-letter abbreviation is

with the dream of my cardigan, and be any.

Okay, so I hopped off the plane to be any with the dream of my cardigan,

and when we took the train into Brisbane, which Brisbane is it?

Okay, and then is it i.e. or y?

Oh, this is exactly what happened!

This is exactly what happened!

I looked on the internet, and the internet was like no consensus,

and so has the crowd!

We'll figure that out later, I guess, but anyway, we get in,

and take the train, and my stomach wasn't feeling great,

and I was like, okay, maybe it was the free food I got on the plane,

it was like meat and cheese pies or whatever, maybe it's that.

And I also get motion sick pretty easily,

so I was like, okay, it could have just been that.

And then we're moving all our bags, and we got lots of bags,

because I'm on tour and vacation, and babies require many things.

And we're going, and what's the name for that bridge,

where it's like the new big walking bridge, it's uphill all the way,

and it goes to the south bank area.

Yes, yes, that one.

It's got the guys face on a statue at the end?

Yeah, so if you go from across over to where the botanical garden is,

and that's where that guy's statues and everything,

at the end, there's a little water fountain,

and what I would recommend everyone do when you think of that water fountain

is just know that when we were getting into town,

I was pushing all these bags, and I was really not feeling good,

and then I hit the bump over there, and I fell over,

and then I went over to the water fountain,

and I threw up real big on that bridge.

Real big.

Real big.

There were some helpful late teens, early 20s people,

who helped with the bags and stuff,

and I got cleaned up the best that I could,

and then we soldiered on, but it was just a great start to the trip,

and it's all been through from there.

And now, anytime you're on that bridge,

just think, Mike Schubert threw a breather big at the end of this bridge.

Anyway, we're here to talk about Percy Jackson, obviously,

and I am always joined by a special guest on these journeys.

My journey going through the series for the first time,

and this time I'm joined by someone who you may have seen,

if you came to the Sydney show last time,

you may have heard, if you listen to that episode,

and you also may have seen her lovely artwork all across the internet,

and sometimes the TNO space, please make some noise,

for our guest, not technically Brisbane Zone,

because she's from Gold Coast, but that's close enough,

so Queen's Land, Queen's Land, Queen's Land,

Queen's Land's Own, Sara Barra, Vexa Barra!

Cheers!

Hello.

Hello. How's it going?

I'm good.

I was having a laugh at the back.

Yeah, we didn't talk about that backstage.

Yeah, that's a fun one.

It was cool.

I'm happy to be here, though, and not feeling sick anymore.

Perfect.

It was, you know, at least it was the beginning of the trip, right?

Then everything of Brisbane's all uphill.

Also, I know from what people warned me,

there were some nice people in the crowd who were like,

hey, when you're here in Brisbane,

there's going to be a national holiday on Monday

that sounds like it's a cool thing that you should celebrate,

because it is called Australia Day.

They were like, do not do that, though.

Exactly.

That is bad.

That is why, for this show, I am wearing a shirt that Kelly got,

where it's like made by a company called Clothing the Gap,

and yeah, they do a lot of things for Indigenous people,

so it's got the Indigenous flag, and then on the back,

the reason Kelly got it, is it says,

did you really do the right thing?

Yes!

Which is cool.

So I was like, I should wear that for the quote-unquote

Australia Day show.

And the real way that we are anti-celebrating

is we fly to New Zealand tomorrow.

We're really doing our civic duty of not celebrating.

Getting out of Australia.

Yeah, getting out, getting out, and now you all get the pleasure of the only show

I've ever done in shorts and a T-shirt.

Whoa!

So, you can brag.

It is also so humid.

What's happening?

Why am I in Florida?

What?

It is Queensland, so.

So, we're going to be covering chapters 18 and 19 of the House of Hades.

You've now been on the podcast three times, so this will be your third time.

So, I'm going to ask you your third time guest question.

We've already got your cabin.

We've already got how you found the books.

So, what would your nectar and ambrosia taste like?

Like that ideal food, ideal drink.

Ah, so for nectar, I think it would be just a long black.

I guess, coffee.

Yeah.

Nice.

No, the coffee game here varies.

Yeah, but I take coffee, like literally, just a long black no sugar, nothing.

Plain black.

Cool.

So, for food, I think it will be, it's an avocado sandwich, but from my country.

Chewy.

Cool.

What makes it special about...

It's the bread.

Oh, the bread?

Yes.

I miss bread.

Actually, real bread.

Oh, hot tape.

Australia doesn't have bread.

I mean, the cold bread is not the best bread.

No.

I wouldn't have asked.

You're right.

So...

What's the Chilean bread?

It's called squishy.

What's the deal?

It's kind of crusty outside and very soft in the middle.

Okay.

So, you open it.

It's just like a fluffy bread that you can fill up with a bunch of other items, of course.

It sounds good.

And I usually have it just like...

It's literally avocado and toast, but with a different bread.

Okay.

So, that should be it.

Does that particular bread have a special name?

Yes, it's called Marraqueta.

Oh.

So, yes.

It sounds delicious.

Let's find a Chilean bacon.

I mean, if you want to...

No.

There is a Chilean restaurant in Brisbane area, which is very good.

I will recommend.

It's a little bit like in the...

I don't know.

Like in my way from the Gold Coast to Brisbane, I don't even remember the name, but it's

very good.

You should try it.

And they have their own bread.

They made their own bread there.

Cool.

Cool.

Great.

Fun.

Look how much we're learning tonight.

Let's get into these chapters, though.

So, we're going to begin with chapter 18, which is called Franco, obviously retailing.

By the end, where we last left our heroes, they had decided to leave out into Venice to figure

out who owns the fancy book with the gold leafing on the cover that they recently acquired

from the Twin Monkeys.

So chapter 18 begins with the following quote, Frank might have liked Venice if it hadn't

been summertime and tourist season, and if the city wasn't overrun by large, hairy creatures.

He notes that it's already hard to navigate with the people that are there, but the monsters

make it even worse.

So, yeah.

So, Queensland.

Yeah.

Sure.

Yeah.

Is it notoriously bad with tourism stuff?

Right.

The Gold Coast.

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

I've heard that Gold Coast can get quite touristy at a particular time.

Yes.

It's not the best time.

Okay.

Yeah.

Look.

I live in New York.

I get it.

I try to avoid Times Square.

So, says it's hard to navigate.

Monsters are making it even worse, and they see one of these monsters kind of work out a plant

from a crack in the pavement, and then they begin to eat it.

And Frank feels good about the fact that they're herbivores, like, okay, they're not going

to try and eat me.

They're eating plants.

This is good.

Now, Hazel holds his hand and says that as long as they don't supplement their diet

with demigods, they should be okay.

That should be good.

And yeah, look, she's right.

But Frank loves that she's holding his hand.

Huge.

Very good.

Look, it's honestly very good to see them do cute, coupling things because I feel like they

decided to start dating right as the second book was ending slash the third book was

beginning.

And we all know how that one started with a giant war beginning.

Yes.

So, just like, hey, you want to date?

They need each other.

Hey, would you like to date?

Sure, that sounds good.

Oh, oh, oh.

We're starting to want that.

Yeah, right.

Like, you want to talk about Percy and Annabeth getting to really, at least they had like

a month or two to have a fun time being a couple.

That's something.

Yeah.

Frank and Hazel got an hour.

30 minutes?

Yeah.

Nothing.

Absolutely nothing.

So, it's fun to see them be able to have some cute moments.

Frank loves that she's holding his hand and he loves feeling needed and useful, which I think

is good as the narrator.

Oh, boy.

Cute.

Yeah, it's very cute.

And the narrator, he clarifies that he doesn't mean to say that Hazel can't handle herself,

but he likes feeling like her bodyguard.

And especially because he's had the thing going on with his two dad's yelling inside

of his brain.

That's a nightmare.

Not fun at all.

Because that's been going on.

He felt like he wasn't bringing his best to the team.

So, for him to do something where he can be needed and can be useful, he feels good.

So, I totally got it.

I like it.

So, he thinks that if any monster messes with Hazel, he's going to turn into a rhino and

then launch them into the nearest canal, which I think is fantastic.

And then what's even better is that he follows up this thought by wondering, can I actually

turn into a rhino?

I've never turned into a rhino before.

I don't know if I can turn into a rhino.

Take a try.

You can try.

Look.

And we'll see if he does it in this chapter.

And we'll see how it goes.

Nico points out a location and goes there.

Frank notices that this location is free of mortals, but it is highly trafficked by the monsters.

Nico then instructs Frank to look farther down the alleyway, and he sees it, the black

house that they are after.

Now, it's the only black house that they have seen in Venice.

And I feel like that tracks, I don't know if you've ever been to Venice.

No.

I've been once, and I feel like it's very old school, white, and marble kind of architecture.

So, if you see a black building, it's like black.

It would be weird.

Like, I don't know if Venice has strict neighborhood rules like some of the towns where, like,

I don't know if the Chinkatar, like, I'm not sure if they have strict colors that you

need to be, but they've all been very colored for buildings in some of the neighborhoods.

I know there's a cute little town near Busan, Korea that, like, does, like, if you want

to repaint your house, I think you have to, like, apply with the government to be, like,

can I pay my house this color?

Because it's this very, like, that style, right?

Yeah.

So, I can completely see how a black house just stands out, like a sore thumb.

So he sees this thinking, okay, that's probably the black house.

The only new scene, Hazel does not love the vibes.

It feels cold to her.

And Nico says that Hazel is right, as the street is covered in, it's spelled like lemurs

with an E.

I don't know if it's, like, lemurs.

I don't know how it's pronounced, but I'm assuming it's lemurs because Frank guesses,

you don't mean the quote, furry little guys from Madagascar.

And that's a gray pole for lemurs, because that is the point of reference for I feel like

a lot of people.

Yes.

Unless you've been to a zoo or some part of the world where they are.

More common.

So that getting pulled is the reference.

I thought was very funny and very much timestamps.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

This.

And it is, like, I like where Percy Jackson operates where, like, it's basically a world,

but not 100% confirmed.

But now, canonically, the film Madagascar does exist.

It does exist.

Yeah.

That's fantastic.

Nico explains that lemurs are angry ghosts that go all the way back to the Roman Dimes.

And he says that they hang out in a lot of Italian cities.

His mom, you should tell him stories about ghosts in Venice.

And Frank wonders more about Nico's past, but he's afraid to press and ask more questions,

which I can totally understand because we've had Frank mention more and more often throughout

these chapters.

He's like, hey, this Nico kid is so terrifying.

So I can understand.

This kid is weird.

Yeah.

I can understand him not wanting to ask that.

That is my girlfriend's brother.

So.

Oh, yeah, dude.

You got it.

You got it.

Oh, my.

I didn't even think about this.

You're going to have to do it.

But I can also see him not wanting to press too much because obviously his mother has

a tragic backstory.

So it's kind of hard to like all of them, though, that yeah, except Sally, does it weirdly

become normal for them to be like, well, everything sucks.

So there's no question about your parents.

That's too touchy.

But probably both sides because you have your mother or father and then your godly

parent also.

So it's awkward in any way.

Yeah.

Maybe there's no questions that are off limits.

But I can understand the instinct of being like, is mom died really tragically?

I don't know if I want to ask him too many questions about his mom and then he'll be sad

about remembering his mom.

So.

Because I'm already sad.

He's always sad.

He's always sad.

He's always sad.

Yeah, I wouldn't change anything.

So yeah, whatever.

It's just part for the course.

It's just Tuesday.

So Hazel gives him a look like it's okay.

Nico needs to have more practice talking to people.

Which is not wrong.

Not wrong.

Hazel clocks it a video.

Frank guesses that Nico's mom was Italian.

Was the last name a hint at all?

He asks if she was from Venice, Nico confirms saying that she met Hades here in the 1930s.

And I think this is fun because I don't think it was ever established before this that

she was like Italian, Italian and not like Italian-American.

Oh, okay.

For me it was Italian Ferture from the start.

Or maybe because I read all of these books so quickly that you just merge everything

like all together.

Sure.

Spurn Matilli, of course.

I can also understand the difference of, so when you read this book, did you read it in

English or in Spanish?

In English.

Okay.

Yes.

When you read the first five, was it in English or in Spanish?

In English.

So English.

Okay.

Then how did you know that Dr. Pepper got changed to-

Because I read them later?

In Spanish.

Okay.

I still can understand the international perspective of hearing D'Angelo and being like,

oh, his mom must be Italian.

Whereas being not only American, but me being like very small percentage Italian American

and growing up in a very Italian American place where I'm just like, oh, I knew people

with the last name D'Angelo.

Oh, okay.

That makes sense.

My instinct is just like, oh, yeah, just, you know, a white guy, not necessarily.

Which Nico is not really that white?

Well, they say-

Well, they say-

He looks like sick.

But that's not what I'm saying.

He's definitely pale.

That is definitely pale.

He's a different kind of white.

But yeah, I can understand the international perspective being like this and then mind being

like, well, I'm from America.

So everything's American, right?

Yeah.

So-

Hopefully no.

No.

God.

Uh.

We were walking-

At Lane, I were walking through some park in Brisbane and then they had like a big screen

where I was showing like cycles of news and stuff and we couldn't see what the text

was, but I had a picture of Trump and at the same time, we said, oh, what did he do

now?

Just let us be in peace.

Oh, please.

Just something.

It's always something.

Stay tuned for when he tries to take over Tazzy, I guess?

I don't know, man.

Once he gets Greenland, uh, kill me.

But, uh, anyway, uh, Percy Jackson.

So, says that she met Hades there in the 1930s.

They fled to the US's World War II approach and I was like, oh, yeah, right, Italy, World

War II.

Oh boy.

He doesn't remember much about Italy, but he can still speak the language.

And Frank tries to think of a response, but he draws a blank as the narrator.

He goes, saying, oh, that's nice.

Just didn't feel right.

I agree.

He lands on saying, it must have been hard for your mom and that people will just do anything

for those that they love.

And that's a good response.

Well done, Frank.

I appreciate that.

And Hazel gives Frank a good job at hand squeeze, which is super cute.

So Frank then pivots to asking about the lemurs.

This is great, especially we just did an episode we recorded of,

professional talkers, the podcast I do, it's a story about navigating awkward conversations.

And we did, the one that we just recorded was having a conversation with someone that

you don't like, but they don't know you don't like them.

And a big thing of that is like, at any point that you can kind of take the conversation

away from, you know, the two of you, then it allows you, if you're talking about something

else, you're not running the risk of letting them know how you actually feel about them.

Not that this is this situation, but the maybe let's stop getting into the thing where

I might be asking questions I'm uncomfortable with.

Let's get back to.

So what are these lemurs all about, like, he's following our advice, it's pretty good.

And eventually some of the podcast is really good.

So he asks about the lemurs and he specifically asks, how do we avoid the lemurs, they do

not sound like fun.

I don't want to deal with these people.

Niko says that he's on the case, he's hooting out a message that they should leave them

alone.

He does not describe how, but he says he's doing it.

And I was just like, yeah, technically, I don't know, it's just like vibing.

I was like, putting up like an AIM away message, like, don't mess with us.

So he will instant messenger, what?

So Niko suggests, let's just keep him moving.

Narrative Frank says, quote, halfway across the piazza, everything went wrong, but it had

nothing to do with ghosts.

So they are scurrying around a fountain and Hazel loses her footing on a cobblestone.

Frank catches her further proving that the Heroes of Olympus series is a K-drama, but

a half a dozen of these.

Does he have this low motion also?

Oh, always in the music of the...

Yeah, of course.

Of course.

It does it from 12 different camera angles.

Yeah.

There's an ad for some American food chain, like Subway in the background.

Yeah.

What's that?

He didn't KFC.

Yeah, exactly.

But she falls, he catches her.

Half a dozen of the beasts take notice.

Frank then locks eyes with one and instantly is hit with a wave of nausea.

Hazel apologizes for being a clutz, Niko says that it's not her fault, and he points

to the ground.

And there are green plant tendrils moving through the ground, through the cobblestone.

So these green plant tendrils are moving, and they seem to be following our demigods

back and forth.

All of the cows are staring at the team now, and Frank can tell from his animal knowledge

that their vibe is you're in the way of our food, and that makes you the enemy.

So we...

Terrifying.

And like, because when they describe the monsters, they describe them as these big cows

with their heads hanging low, and they don't seem particularly scaring in the previous

chapter, I think Jason and Leo or Jason and Frank were like going back, people were going

back and forth about like, are they nice?

Like, I don't know, they seem fine.

But even if I'm thinking of mortal cows that I know, just like the size of them alone,

it's just, I don't want to...

I want to be in the mood.

I want to be in the mood.

There's a lot of them.

And they're big.

Yeah.

There's many of them.

They're heavy, I don't know, even if it's a regular cow, like I don't want to be in

the wrong side of regular cow.

So I can understand not wanting to be on the side of like...

Monster cow.

Monster cow, nausea cow, green eye cow, I totally understand.

So the staring at the team, getting this vibe, Frank starts to formulate a plan.

He knows that there's too many of these cows to take on at once, and he fears that something

worse than nausea will happen if he makes prolonged eye contact with them.

So he tells the others that he's going to be the distraction, and he warns them all

don't make eye contact.

He tells them to slowly approach the black house, but then the creatures get ready to attack.

So Frank says, nevermind, run!

And...

Oh, so I wrote on my notes that nevermind should be one word.

It's weird that it's never spacemines.

It just...

The space looks so wrong.

Also, like, nevermind?

Like, nevermind?

Nevermind?

I'm not even...

Nevermind.

Uh, narrator Frank says...

I don't think my coffee said that.

Like it...

Nevermind.

Nevermind.

I...

No, I think he did.

I think he did.

I think I'm working with the British English PDF.

Oh.

I haven't the American.

Oh.

Oh, wait, I don't think it's...

I don't think it's...

I don't know.

I don't think it's one word in America, because I will, like, type it in my phone, and the

autocorrect will always be like, you mean, never spacemind?

Hmm.

Interesting.

I think, or am I doing it?

Am I like...

Is this Mandela effect, and I've become British now?

Are you guys do that?

Because you say, like, favor it, and...

Flavor.

Nevermind.

Nevermind.

Nevermind.

I know.

Oh, wait, in British English, it's one word?

I think that's what it is, because I'm British already.

I'm going to check my legal PDF, because it's the British one.

Uh...

I think, probably.

Mine should be two words in all my school content.

Right.

Okay.

When is it?

One word.

Nevermind.

Sorry, sorry.

Oh, if I'm saying, nevermind.

It's verbal.

It's nevermind.

But if it's written, it's nevermind.

Okay.

So he's...

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Dad, no, no, no.

That's not how words work.

Yeah.

If someone in a book is saying, oh, no.

Oh.

If you're writing, like, and I say, nevermind the blah, blah, blah.

It would be two words.

Okay.

But you should tell that to Rick Riordan, or at least...

The editor.

Rick Riordan.

Because in the UK, or his editor, the...

I don't know.

The UK publication has never spacemind, Frank said.

Run.

We had two long in the beginning where I was...

I had my issue with my notes where we got to move on.

Nevermind this.

Narrative Frank says, as it turned out, Frank could not turn into a rhino

and he lost a valuable time trying.

Nico and Hazel head for a side street.

Frank gets in front of the beast's.

He tries to go in a rhino mode.

He can't.

He cites that the reason that it didn't work was the internal dad's yelling

in his brain too much.

Then two cows head towards Nico and Hazel.

Frank tries to yell for them to go back

and you know, stay with the herd.

But all of these other beasts surround Frank.

They start exhaling green gas from their nostrils.

Not fun.

Disgusting.

For sure.

Frank takes a step back to avoid it.

But he almost passes out from the smell.

And then he starts panicking about what animal he should become.

And then he sees the city's mascot,

much like Brisbane's AFL team, the Lions.

Congratulations on your 2025 Cup Champion Jet.

Yes.

Let's go.

We'll second time, right?

Yeah, they won twice.

Yeah, twice.

Good job.

Okay.

And RL, that's the rugby league, which is the Broncos.

Yeah.

And how are the bullets doing?

Terrible.

The Brisbane Bullets is the basketball team.

I walk past.

What do you mean we have a basketball team?

I've seen.

I've seen.

I've seen promotional material for the Brisbane Bullets all across.

They're doing a space jam week.

Where they're wearing space jam.

They're wearing Monstar's jerseys.

I need to get on board with this.

I know.

I think I need to start rooting for the Brisbane Bullets.

I did look up the roster to see.

Is there any washed NBA players that are on the team that are not sadly there

and other leagues and other teams and stuff?

Is anyone caught up on how the Bullets are doing?

How are they?

Oh.

Are they traditionally bad as they are currently less on the ladder?

Or, oh, okay.

How long have the Brisbane Bullets been around?

Like a long time?

A long time?

And if they've just been bad forever?

I think so.

Oh.

The Bullets.

Come on.

Wait, hold on.

Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.

I need the...

You look very confident.

They were around for a long time and they went away for...

They were around for a long time.

They went away for a long time.

Did they go to a different city?

Or they're just like, we're so tired.

Okay, we're just not the Bullets anymore.

They've come back and they're bad.

Oh.

Oh, no.

The name is cool.

The logo's cool.

The colors are cool.

Yeah.

We have fun.

And that's what it's all about.

So anyway, Perse Jackson.

Frank turns into a lion.

And I'm glad he turns into a lion because the city's mascot being a lion was brought up.

They were like, oh, the statues.

Look at all these lions.

And I was like, this feels too weird to not come back.

Yeah, too long to know.

Yeah.

So we've got Chekhov's lion.

They have returned.

And then Frank as a lion growls and pounces on top of the fountain.

And three of these cows attack him.

Frank slashes two of them into dust.

And then he bites a third in the neck and then tosses it aside.

Frank.

I think in this part, he actually said like, I'm the top of the food chain or something.

Like I'm very hyping himself up.

It's great.

Yeah, it's good.

It's pretty good.

It was cool.

And it's a shame that Hazel was passed out and couldn't see how cool Frank was at this moment.

So he probably looked really cool.

Well, he doesn't know that yet.

Yeah.

So maybe the whole time he was doing, he's like, I'm looking so cool turned to Hazel.

Yep.

So seven are left.

Two of them are chasing Hazel and Nico.

Frank roars again and the monsters retreat a little bit.

He jumps off the fountain and he continues to bear his fangs while trying to position himself in a spot to help Nico and Hazel.

He then takes a step in their direction and a cow can tell what's up.

So he charges full speed at Frank while puffing out green smoke.

Frank slashes it down but the gas is all around him.

He forces himself not to inhale but the fumes still burn his nose and they still burn his eyes.

Nico starts screaming Frank's name and then Frank notices that he has turned back into human form.

The cows are waiting to see what Frank does next.

Frank sees that Nico is under an archway.

He's gesturing for Frank to join him and he's standing next to two piles of monster dust.

So seemingly Nico has bested the two that chased after him and Hazel.

But Hazel is motionless, propped up against a wall, which doesn't see my deal.

In my non-Dr. Stephen Parvinical opinion, that feels not great.

Yeah, I don't think that it's good.

Yeah, because kind of like me on that bridge, I'm not in a good spot.

Talk about nausea.

Frank sprints over, grabs her shoulders, her head sags low, not ideal.

Nico explains that she got hit with a blast of smoke and he laments not being fast enough to save her.

And the narrator Frank says, quote, Frank couldn't tell if she was breathing.

Rage into spare battled inside him.

He'd always been scared of Nico.

Now he wanted to dropkick the son of Hades into the nearest canal.

Maybe that wasn't fair but Frank didn't care.

Neither did the war God screaming in his head.

So I like that he immediately recognizes that you might be overreacting here and it's not Nico's fault.

I mean, he did still defeat them just a little bit too late.

Like it's not easy.

Yeah, I also love that the two gods are just like yelling kill him kill him or whatever it was.

Yeah, you know we needed two more coach hedges.

Really need more people yelling about murder.

Frank says that they got a return Hazel to the or go to the wrath of cortex.

The cows call for clow.

Yeah, okay, good.

I was worried that one wouldn't hit.

But of course, Australia knows crash Bandicoot.

The cows call for reinforcements.

Nico knows that they can't make it on foot.

So he tells Frank to turn into an eagle and to not worry about him.

Frank isn't sure if he can muster it up given that his face still feels like it's burning.

And he's about to try but then he hears a voice behind him say that his friends can't help him since they don't know the cure.

So Frank turns around and sees what looks like a young man in a denim shirt and denim pants.

And he's outside the black house.

He looks friendly, but Frank doubts that he is and doubts that he's even a man.

He doesn't care.

He wants to save Hazel.

He asks this guy if he can cure her.

And that guy says yes, but he does add quote, but you'd better hurry inside.

I think you've angered every catobleps in Venice.

And what a word.

Catobleps.

I didn't even try to pronounce that first time.

I said it.

It felt good, but I don't know.

Any Greeks in the crowd?

Catobleps.

Yeah, but the audiobooks.

So if the audiobooks say catobleps, I don't trust it because they also call Arian the horse Orion.

Like he's the constellation.

That's a different name.

Yeah.

I don't know.

So, okay.

I will resort to Dr. Moya as the true expert.

So we'll all learn in a year.

Can we talk about the full denim?

The full denim.

Yeah.

Okay.

Is full denim?

That's what a Canadian Tuxedo is, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, because I don't know.

Yeah.

I thought that was what like if you were a denim and denim, it's called a Canadian Tuxedo,

but I've never rocked it.

So I wasn't sure.

I also didn't know if in Australia that reference would go down.

But yeah, the denim denim is a choice for sure.

It is.

I wonder.

And I will have to ask Dr. Moya, like if there's a reason given that this person is a god,

but I would later learn he's like a farming guy.

So I guess that's the thing.

I mean, but just like still full denim.

Right.

Like if he was wearing, you know, like big overalls and a white t-shirt underneath, like that

would more feel like traditional farming.

That makes me more sense.

Oh, but they needed to make it.

I don't know.

Fashionable.

Yeah.

Or Italian.

Maybe.

Both.

Someone say.

Yeah.

So that's the end of chapter 18, which I've retitled.

Don't huff the green stuff.

What is.

You retitled chapter 18.

I didn't think about it.

I tried to look cool, but my girlfriend is passed out.

Perfect, perfect, perfect.

Well, let's keep it rolling with chapter 19, which is also called Frank, but we'll retitle

it.

It opens with quote.

They barely made it inside.

So good.

Stressful, but good.

The beasts are trying to ram the door down, but the man assures them that they will not

be able to enter.

Frank doesn't like this guy's lack of urgency.

He feels a little too chill for him.

So the denim guy then instructs Frank to bring her farther into the building adrenaline

is coursing through Frank's veins as he can feel Hazel shivering as he holds her.

It scares him, but it does comfort him knowing that she's still alive.

It looks like her lips are turning green, but Frank can't tell if it's her side effects

or his side effects or his blurred vision.

It's like her lips are green.

Is that a hurt problem or a me problem?

I'm not quite sure.

Yeah.

Or honestly, probably about.

Now to Frank's quote, his eyes still burn from the monster's breath.

His lungs felt like he'd inhaled a flaming cabbage, which we've all done before.

So we know.

We know what that feels like.

If I had a nickel for every time I inhaled a flaming cabbage, he didn't know why the

gas had affected him less than it had Hazel.

Maybe she'd gotten more of it in her lungs.

He would have given anything to change places if it meant saving her.

Frank.

So sweet.

So sweet.

Really cute.

So Frank's dad's voices in his head tell him to kill everyone in the room.

The front room of the house is like a greenhouse filled with plants under fluorescent lights.

Frank wonders if this is a Venetian thing because all of the canals don't have soil.

So maybe you have to plant indoors like this.

The back room is a combination garage slash college dorm slash computer lab.

And what was funny with this description, obviously, this was before I knew what it was.

Just when they said the combination of canals and greenhouse, I thought of if anyone's been

to Disney or heard me talk about this on the pod, the ride at Epcot that's called like

living with the land where it's like a boat ride and all these greenhouses.

And I was like, oh, this kind of thinks like that, but surely that's not it.

And then a couple of pages later, it's like farming guy, I was like, oh, I did it.

Yeah, the other back area, it's like a combination garage college dorm computer lab,

which of course makes me think of the DAS racist on combination pizza Taco Bell to be like,

I'm at the garage college, I'm at the computer lab.

So there are servers and laptops, which have farming images displayed on their screensavers.

And when they said that, I was like, oh, right, I feel like someone in a previous chapter

said something about farming.

I don't remember at what point, but this isn't coming out of nowhere for me.

Maybe the twins I can remember the room also has a single bed, a wardrobe full of denim clothes

and a pile of farming equipment.

Oh, yeah, like he's just one of those guys over the same thing every day, blah, blah, blah.

The garage portion has a large garage door and a red and gold open carriage single axle cherry.

It just like the ones Frank raised at Camp Jupiter.

And I can't remember if they said that they also did cherry races at Camp Jupiter,

but it's cool that they do them.

And I now want to see a race between the Camp Jupiter people, people, people could be really fun.

Yeah, there are wings around the driver's box.

There's also a sleeping spotted python next to one of the wheels.

And the man tells Frank to put Hazel on the bed.

She is limp and now Frank can tell, oh, she's for sure turning green.

Frank asks the man what those beasts were and what they did to Hazel and he answers

there's catabalopones singular catabalops in English.

It means down looker and they are called that because and then Nico smacks his head

and like, oh, duh, kind of moment and he fills in.

They're always looking down and he states that he recalls reading about them.

And Frank goes, now you remember?

And then we get this quote from the book, Nico hung his head almost as low as a catabalops.

I used to play this stupid card game when I was younger, myth of magic.

And I was like, don't you dare call it stupid. It's not stupid.

It's not stupid. And it might be real. Oh, please, please.

Oh, I got so excited when I saw it.

Yeah, look, and as I as I had on the podcast and in the reals that are posted and stuff,

like they crafted the rules. Like when they made the set, like they worked with game designers

and made rules. So like, I want it. It's it's it's it's in please make me let me draw one

card just one card. Here's what I'll say because what I went to set, we went to the

prop room and they had like all the stuff and they had the big myth of magic set.

And me and all the podcasters were like, yo, why is this here for season two?

What's going on? And we saw and they did have like a full set of cards.

Like they had cards with like art and description. Like it looked like magic.

They gather in cards. They had like moved and subtext and like all the stuff and stats.

Like they've got it folks. It's there. It was cool. Oh, super.

Which is needed. We need like Disney. Do you want to make so much money from nerds?

Do you want to make so much money from nerds? It's not even just the cards because they also show

figurines. So there will it's it's a bunch of much. So much money. It's a comp. It's a combo.

It is. It's a combo of dice miniatures and cards. So it's magic plus dnd plus like more

hammer. I guess it's like you got to do. It's a lot of money. Yeah, you can charge so much for

this board game. And all of us will be like, yeah, do like five hundred dollars Australian.

Well, yeah, sure. Like we'll get it. But anyway, this Percy Jackson. So he says, I used to play

this stupid card game when I was younger, mythomagic. The Kitableps were one of the monster cards.

Frank Blinkt. I played mythomagic. I never saw that card. It was in the Africana's extreme

expansion pack. Sorry, expansion deck. Oh, their host cleared his throat. Are you two done geeking

out? As they say, they're bonding. Okay. Yes. Yes. It's so good. And I wanted to jump through

the book and smack this guy. I'd be like, let them keep talking about mythomagic. I need to know

everything. Nico apologizes and explains that Kitablepones have poison breath and poison gaze,

which to me both sound like Pokemon attacks. Kitableps use poison gaze. He thought that they only

lived in Africa. And the denim dude says, yeah, they're native to Africa. But they were brought

to Venice hundreds of years ago, much like bin chickens. And they ask if they are familiar with

Saint Mark. And Frank wants to yell at these two because this does not seem relevant,

and we should get on to the saving my girlfriend portion of our activity time together. Yeah.

But he doesn't want to upset the person who can heal Hazel. So instead, he tries to play long,

and he goes, no, what do saints have to do with Greek mythology? And the denim guy says that

Saint Mark is the patron saint of the city. And he died in Egypt many moons ago. In the middle

ages, relics of saints were big tourist attractions. So the Venetians stole his remains via a barrel

of like pickled vegetables or something and then brought them to their large church of San Marco.

And Frank thinks that's gross. And the denim dude goes, yep. And you can't do something so evil and

not face karmic retribution. And that retribution took the form of the catablet bones. They were

stowaways on the ship. And they've been breeding like mad ever since. They feed off the magical

poison roots that grow in Venice. And then he keeps talking and doesn't dwell on the magical

poison roots that grow in Venice. Like they don't ever revisit that. He's like, oh, yeah, magical

poison roots that grow in Venice. And that was like, oh, why are there magical poison roots

that grow in Venice? What's happening? Another story. Yeah, maybe it'll come up, but at least

where I have read it has not. So magical poison roots that grow in Venice. And it makes their breath

even more poisonous. So he begins to go on about why they attack the demigods. But Frank stops him

short and asks, look, can you just cure Hazel? And this guy says possibly Frank does not love that

he says possibly not a very good choice of words. No, I love for you to say, oh, yeah, sure, no problem.

Frank then puts his hand under Hazel's nose and can't feel her breathing. So he asks Nico,

is she doing that thing that you did where you were in a jar and eating one pomegranate seed today?

And Nico says that he's not sure if she knows how saying that since her dad is technically

Pluto, and that's a children of Hades thing doesn't know if Hazel knows how to do it. The denim

dude is then put off by this saying that he doesn't like children of Hades and he could smell it on

them and he never would have let them in if he knew they were children of the underworld. So this

guy is also prejudiced. Yay. Cool. Very cool and fun. Frank assures him that Hazel's a good person.

He tells us dude that he promised he's saying like you promised to Elber and he goes, I never said

I promised and I with full denim thing I never promised you. Yeah. Yeah, I just like Frank wanted to

punch him in the face. Nico also wants a punch him in the face, but he actually wants to slice him

of the sword. He threatens him at sword points as you better help my sister and then the denim guy

goes, oh blah, blah, blah, and waves his hand and then turns Nico into a corn plant. This kid can't

catch a break. He can't catch a break. Poor Nico. He is. It trapped in a jar. He's life though. The

whole adventure adventure. Everything about him. He just like anytime he's back it's like, okay,

Nico's ready to be part of this book. Something happens to him. He's in a jar. He gets poured out of

the jar. He has to crawl around on the floor and stuff. In this book he's just like mine in his

own Eden breakfast and then they run into stuff in a bunch of plates and cutlery fall into his head

and he gets knocked out like this kid can't have anything go right for him for two consecutive

chapters. He's a corn plant now. The denim dude says my children of eighties should talk less and

listen more and maybe now he can since he has ears. I was like, oh damn it. I hate this dude.

Back in. The denim guy is super cool and great.

Too good. Frank is dumbfounded. He only now remembers Leo telling them that this guy was a god.

The denim dude introduces himself as trip to Lemus. He says, quote, my friends call me trips so

don't call me that. That's hilarious. I've never heard that phrasing. That's so funny. Which friends

though? I don't know. But I like, it's just such a fun way to do the flip on. My friends call me

whatever. My friends call me trips so don't call me that because we're not friends. It's so funny.

Frank rushes to inform him that he's a child of Mars, not a child of eighties so you don't need

to turn me into some plant. Trips says, no, no, that's not much better. But maybe he could turn

Frank into something nicer. He suggests sorghum. Frank pleads with him that they are on a friendly

mission and that they come bearing a gift. And then he hands over the book, which trip

excitedly calls his almanac. And then he giddily asks, Frank, where did you find this? And Frank

goes, um, Bologna, there were these. Frank remembered that he wasn't supposed to mention the dwarfs.

Terrible monsters. We risked our lives, but we knew this was important to you. So could you maybe,

you know, turn Nico back to normal and heal Hazel? And he says that he will let Frank go free,

but he won't heal the others as he has beef with Hades. And he cites that his powers come from

Demeter. And that could be the justification for this beef. Frank tries recalling the whole

Demeter story, but it's hard given that Demeter is the Greek name. And he, I think it's series

that is the Roman name. He's trying to put it all together. Also, the dads are arguing inside of

his head. And then still saying kill him. Yeah, which, yeah, no, maybe he's a little more

I know. Um, he then asks, was Persephone a friend of yours? And then Trip has this quote where he goes,

I was just a mortal prince back then. Persephone wouldn't have noticed me, but when her mother

Demeter went searching for her, scouring the whole earth, not many people would help her.

Heck it, you lit her way at night with torches. And I, well, when Demeter came to my part of Greece,

I gave her a place to stay. I comforted her, gave her a meal, and offered my assistance. I didn't

know she was a goddess at the time, but my good deed paid off. Later, Demeter rewarded me by

making me a god of farming. And Frank have heartedly goes, oh, congratulations on being the god of

farming. And Trip acts as if this was a genuine thing. He's like, yes, and it's so cool, the god of

farming. I wasn't sure about this god, because I remember from great mythology that Demeter encounters

two people that she, like godly powers. So one was him, like actually the, take chain him to

do farming and blah, blah, blah, that's the chariot on all of that. And the other one, it was a baby

that she literally baked as a bread in a fireplace. So what happened to the baby? I don't know, I don't

remember. Does anyone know what happened to the baby that got baked in the oven? I don't. It turned

into that bread you really like. That could be, I agree. Oh, I'll have to ask Dr. Boyah, why is

Demeter cooking children? Greg mentality. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. I think that's probably in the

Percy Jackson Greeks gods things like because it sounds a little familiar. And I did those as like

live show episodes in the past, but they haven't come on the pod yet. I can't remember what it does

sound. The whole Demeter helping out does sound familiar, but I also can't remember what happened

here. That's really funny. I just remember that because it's like, why is she just put in a baby

unifier place? Is that where Bonne may have been coming from? Maybe, maybe. Good point. Yeah. So

Trip explains that he takes the side of his patron goddess. And he says that there was once a

Scythian king named Linkos. Trip tried to teach his countryman farming and he killed his right

Python. And I and Frank asked, what does that mean? And then Narada Franks' quote, Trip marched

over to his winged chariot and hopped in. He pulled a lever and the wings began to flap.

The spotted Python on the left wheel opened his eyes. He started to ride coiling around the Axel

like a spring. The chariot worded to motion, but the right wheel stayed in place. So Trip to

Lima spun in circles. The chariot beating its wings and bouncing up and down like a defective

merry go round. What an image. Yeah, what an image. So I think this is a good point to take our

break because the next thing that he does is absolutely wild. And we did, there's something like

that we need, we need time to discuss what happens after this because I love the joke that

Rick's pulls. So if you are listening to the podcast after the fact, we're going to take our

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He says that he cannot spread the good word about farming anymore. He has to do online courses now.

Ridiculous. Have you ever done an online course of sorts or anything?

Actually, yes. What was it in?

I mean art. That's the easy one. That's cool. I did an online course for a business

management type thing, project management. This was when I was still an engineer in Seattle

before Potter List took off real big. I did an online course because I was like, I want to try and

pivot at an engineering. Let me pivot into more like something that feels more fun to do like

business. He kind of stuff. So I did this course and then like right after I finished Potter

L.S. Exploded, I was like, cool. Let's do this instead. Perfect.

So he's doing online courses in Frank goes, what? But then he instantly regrets going, what?

Because Trip excitedly turns on computers that display a website with a guy in a toga wearing

a farming hat and he goes trip to Lima's farming university in just six weeks. You can get your

bachelor's degree in the exciting and vibrant career of the future. Farming.

It is a bachelor's degree. Yes, it is. Wow. In six weeks, which is six weeks. That took me four

years and 250,000 U.S. dollars to get for me. At least you didn't do two as I did.

Oh, and a good thing I use that degree all the time. Oh, same.

That piece of paper that I spent 250 grand on. Oh, yeah, maybe well worth it. My parents also

helped. I don't want to take full credit. My parents listened to this podcast. Thank you,

Marvin Joel. I appreciate it. I know I didn't spend it all on myself. It was us together.

And then my mom's going to be like, Michael, you still use your degree. It's your critical thinking

skills that help you. Yeah. Sure, mom, but I'm not using a lot of multivariable calculus.

I do use my physical therapist's degree on art, too. So cool. Do you?

Yes. How? How? What do you mean how? Oh, I thought I thought I don't know physical therapy

in art. I was wondering. Yeah, and that to me.

I do character designs. That's why they look so good because you understand the body.

It's correct. Yeah, cool, cool. Maybe, you know, maybe one day, one day, there will be some

physics in here. And I'll be like, I'm ready. And anyway, online courses. I just love

rick taking shots at online universities because this feels like, I don't know if Australia has this,

but we're especially with this book coming on the late 2010s. Do you all know about America's

the University of Phoenix? So it was this like online school that has nothing to do with Phoenix,

the city in Arizona, which is a state. It's where the Phoenix Suns play the basketball team.

Oh, yeah, Jocolanda was on them. He's Australian. We all know this. You guys, you guys are,

you're all big Phoenix suns fans.

You're a Joc, oh, sorry. Okay, I thought I'd never, I thought I'd never be like, yeah, Jocolanda.

Come on, what a name too. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I know, I know for effect.

It is because I was in South Bank. And there was a, like, we're by the streets beach

after I ate a Buffalo bill to pay my respects to the country. It was good. Buffalo bill was good.

Yeah, they know what's up.

And then I was walking through,

there was like a farmer's market,

street market kind of thing.

And then there were bars on the left.

And one of the sports bars was playing basketball

from Unrivaled, which is the Women's Basketball League,

like when they're in the off season for the WMEA.

And I was like, okay, Brissy, playing Unrivaled,

speaking my language, I would have popped in,

but I was with the baby and the family.

So I was supposed to do other things,

be a good dad and not watch basketball.

But it's okay, because it's Women's Basketball, right?

Anyway, so.

So we have this thing called the University of Phoenix.

I don't know if it's still around anymore,

but it's this like unaccredited online college thing

or you can get like this BS, not BS,

Bachelor of Science, you can get the other BS degree,

like not real degree.

I don't know how it all works,

it's like fake university stuff.

It feels like this is what Uncle Rick

is taking shots at as a former teacher.

And I think that's very funny for him

to be getting online university stuff.

I'm very curious about the website.

Yes, I mean, I will say the logo of a guy

wearing a toga and a farming hat feels great.

I love that.

That's very cool.

It's like the Quaker guy from the Oats.

Yeah, toga plus farming hat is just a fun

like discord and vibe,

but six weeks to get a bachelor's degree.

That's not real, not real, not real.

Unless you don't sleep.

Well, technically I didn't, when I did mine, so.

I didn't, I didn't get a whole lot of sleep either.

There was a time my junior year,

my third year of the foreign college,

where if I got four and a half hours of sleep,

I was like, good night, that's good.

Well, that's. They actually sleep four hours.

So yeah, technically, yes.

And then for a long time, that wasn't true.

And then I had a baby.

Now it's like, four and a half hours, good night, yeah.

She's actually like, she's been doing great now.

She's good until any parents of young ones in the crowd.

Yeah, you know what's really cool?

You'll understand this when you got the kid

and they're sleeping well and it's great.

And then they get a new tooth and it ruins everything.

I was just waiting for her to talk to me.

Yeah.

She just turned one last week.

Okay, turned one last week.

No teeth yet.

It'll, it'll come and then it'll be like,

you'll figure everything out, it's great.

And then a new tooth comes in and you're like,

oh no, my next week.

Oh, but I get it.

You got to, like, that can't feel good for them.

I totally understand.

But anyway, burst your Jackson.

So he's taking shots at online universities

that aren't legitimate.

I think that's fantastic.

Narrator Frank, when he says program,

when he's deciding it, because I have the UK

or international like British English textbook,

it's program with the MME program,

which was really fun, especially because I typed it

into my notes app and they were like,

do you mean program?

And I was like, no, no, no, I mean program.

But he, as the narrator lets us know

that he does not care about this online program.

Frank tries to reason with the guy saying that,

look, we returned your Almanac, Hazelniko,

are really nice people.

Don't lump them in with these other Hades people

that have given you, you know, you and Demeter a bad time.

And he thinks that Trip is picking up

what Frank is putting down.

If he heals these two, Frank will stay with him

and take up farming.

So he is not.

And be his first student.

Oh, he couldn't play that angle.

Like, I'd be an in person.

No, I think he's had it before.

I think he was like, who's taking his courses?

I don't know, he said with his chair,

he's spreading the good word of farming.

But now he can't do that anymore because it's broken.

So I don't know, yeah.

My thought, what I'd written here was like, Frank,

just say yes and then leave.

Like, I get, he's a god, but like, he's the god of farming.

Like, what is he gonna do to you?

Like, say yes or?

I mean, your dad is the god of war.

Right, and just destroy the fire.

I don't travel.

Like, I feel like you're just like, yeah, sure.

I'll totally like stay with farming.

Heal my friends.

Heal the friends.

Get us out of here, Nico.

Like, just lie.

And then leave.

Children listening to the podcast, don't just lie.

That's bad.

Don't lie.

Be honest.

Be truthful.

Frank thinks this over.

Recognizing that he would do it to save Hazel.

He would be this guy's people and everything,

which, again, I think is very sweet,

but he thinks, surely this is not what the fates have in mind

for me.

There must be something else.

And then he gets an idea and he makes a counteroffer.

He will fix Tripp's chariot.

And I wrote, can he?

And narrator Frank then goes, no clue what I'm thinking here.

I couldn't even figure out Chinese finger traps.

So he's, he specifically says, I'm not Leo.

Yes.

That's really what it is.

Like, you are not necessarily the person for the job,

but you are here.

You're the only one that is not passed out or upplant.

So go for it, bud.

But he just knows that a fixed chariot

is what this guy wants.

So he wants to give him what he wants.

So his plan is to figure it out.

Frank gives his final terms.

I'll fix the chariot.

You fix my friends and give us any help

you can in defeating Gia.

And then Tripp chuckles and asks why Frank thinks

that he could help with that.

And Frank says that Hecate told them so

and sent them here because she knew that you could help us.

And Frank hopes that he's not overstepping by saying this,

but he senses that Hecate and Demeter are friends.

So this could get Tripp on board.

Play the, oh, my cool pal,

or mutual friend Hecatee card.

Frank explains that Hecatee directed them to Ballona

and then to Venice, meaning that she knew they would get

the Almanac and the Deliverative Trip

and Tripp would help them.

So surely this is all because he has some knowledge

that he can share with them and it'll help them in their quest.

So then the book ends the chapter of the following.

Quote, Tripp nodded slowly.

Yes, I see.

I know why Hecatee sent you to me.

Very well, son of Mars.

Go find a way to fix my chariot.

If you succeed, I will do all you ask.

If not, I know Frank Gremble, my friends die.

Yes, Tripp said cheerfully and you'll make a lovely patch

of sorghum.

It's the end of chapter 19, which I've retitled

a school field trip.

What have you retitled?

That's a good one.

School field trip, come on.

What have you retitled, chapter 19?

I'll say I almost become a farmer in six weeks.

In six weeks?

It's not that long, yeah, come on, it'll be fine.

So let's do a little bit chapter 20

and then we'll get into Q&A.

This one is also called Frank.

We won't retitle it because we won't finish chapter 20

because it's really long.

But if you want to fly over to New Zealand

and come to the show, the first ones in Christchurch,

I think, yeah, come on through.

We'll be doing chapter 20.

So it opens with code.

Frank stumbled out of the black house,

the door shut behind him and he collapsed against the wall,

overcome with guilt.

Fortunately, the Catabletones had cleared off

or he might have just sat there and let them trample in.

He deserved nothing better.

He left Hazel inside dying in defenseless.

Defenseless with a C because it's the British English one

at the mercy of a crazy farmer god.

And I think this is Frank doing the Frank thing,

where he's way too hard on himself.

You left Hazel behind sure.

You left her behind with the only person

who knows the cure to the illness she is afflicted with.

In the hands of someone who has a vested interest

in keeping her alive and wants to do so.

Like I don't think you've left her

in these evil clutches of sorts.

Like, yeah, you're leaving,

but you're all like taking the steps to save her.

I think he's being way too hard on himself.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Poor Frank.

Poor Frank.

He always does, it's like, come on, man.

Don't beat yourself down so much.

But every narrator, every book is like,

I'm the worst.

I'm so bad.

Like, it's a whole book of everyone doing this

is kind of fun.

Oh, except Percy apparently.

He's just like, I don't know what's going on.

Where do I go out of office?

What should I do?

Who do I fight?

OK, cool.

Yeah, water powers.

Wee, blue food.

So the dad yelling in his head grows intense.

Frank yells for both of them to shut up.

And then two older Italian women walking by

give him side eye and they mutter something in Italian,

I need to know what they said.

I need to know what they said, because that's so fun.

Frank thinks that he might have enough time to get Leo,

but he decides against it.

Because one, it feels like this is his task to complete.

So he should be the one to do it.

And two, it's not actually a mechanical problem.

The problem is that there's no snakes.

So this is an animal problem.

Frank's the animal guy.

He should be able to figure this out.

Now, just like in the last chapter,

Frank thinks that he would also be a snake forever as a wheel

if it meant saving Hazel.

Third time that he's done this in rapid succession.

He is so in love with Hazel.

Dude is so in love with her.

Oh, head over heels or animal body part

over other animal body parts.

He's all the way in.

He starts to think, and he gets the feeling

that he's heard something about Mars and snakes before.

So despite not wanting to, he kind of tunes

into the inner voices, and he asks for help getting a snake.

And Mars reveals the story that Frank was thinking of, Cadmus.

Narrative Frank says, quote, the story came back to him.

The demigod Cadmus had slain a dragon

that happened to be a child of Aries.

How Aries had ended up with a dragon for a son?

Frank didn't want to know.

All this, Dr. Boya.

But as punishment for the dragon's death,

Aries turned Cadmus into a snake.

And I guess because Australia does British English,

when you guys do quotes for someone saying something,

do you do single quotes or double quotes?

Double, okay.

My PDF has single quotes for people talking.

And I don't know if it's just like a PDF thing.

I don't know if it's a British thing.

I don't know.

I think it must just be the PDF.

But I was like, I was copypacing them.

Oh, the very legal.

They're like, we can't pay for.

Oh, so British use a single.

Yes, okay.

That's the reverse of what?

Okay, so in British standard is a single

and then inside is double.

We do the thing at least in America.

It's like standard is double inside is a single.

You are allowed to do whichever.

As long as you're consistent.

Oh, oh, okay.

That's fascinating.

You have both rules from America.

Oh, that's what so what do you call aluminum?

How do you minium?

Like the entire world.

I like that because I even spell it with both.

You can use the CZD.

It says, ooh, oh, that's fun.

Well, but you like to use you like favor it.

Yeah, don't worry.

I ate the I ate the Vegemite shapes

with the flavor you can see.

I, I got it, I got it, I got it.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay, anyway, British Jackson.

So, Frank knows what he needs to do.

He's got to find an enemy

and he's got to have his cool dads turn them into a snake.

So both dads say that only the greatest of heroes

could make such a request

and then they start listing some

and they kind of go back and forth

where Mars will list a Roman one

and then there's a list of Greek one.

So they go Romulus, Diamities and Heracles and then Horatius

and Mars does not counter Horatius.

And I was not familiar with this guy.

Frank asks what this guy does,

but he says beforehand,

I will prove to be as worthy as him.

What did he do?

And then they show him a vision.

He single-handedly fended off a horde

of barbarian invaders, sacrificing himself on a bridge

to stop them from crossing the Tiber.

He bought the Romans enough time

to prepare their fortifications

and thus he saved Rome.

So, pretty high bar.

What a cool guy.

Yeah, look, right.

Pretty cool lot to live up to.

narrator Frank then says the following,

Frank pushed the voices to the back of his mind.

He looked at his hands and was amazed they weren't trembling.

For the first time in days, his thoughts were clear.

He knew exactly what he needed to do.

He didn't know how he would pull it off.

The odds of dying were excellent,

but he had to try.

Hazel's life depended on him.

He strapped Hazel's sword to his belt,

morphed his back back into a quiver

and bow and raced towards the piazza

where he'd fought the cow monsters.

And that is where we will end the show.

Ah!

So fun, so fun, so fun.

So, super cool stuff.

Very excited for what's ahead.

Really, really liking it.

I am stoked for whatever it is to have in chapter 20,

but these are super fun.

Now, if you're listening to the podcast after the fact,

we'll take a little bit of a break before we get into Q&A.

So let's all say goodbye to the podcast people.

Good.

Bye for festival.

Hey, it's Mike from The Future here.

Just one little break we're going to take here

since this is a longer episode before we get into the Q&A.

The Q&A, which had a lot of interesting things.

We had some Brisbane-specific questions,

we had some really good general questions,

some questions that we've never heard before.

Ah, it was really fun.

I did a whole big tangent about me

and Kelly's securing BTS tickets as well.

Good stuff in the Q&A.

You're going to want to stick around,

but we'll be back soon.

Let's do Q&A, Polly, River Iran.

Oh, hey, let's do Q&A!

Hello.

Hello.

OK, so this first one is from Corinne.

She asked if Percy Jackson characters were Vines RIP,

which would they be?

And then her suggestion for Percy

is the girl with the water,

getting put on her face, going, hello?

Yeah, that's a good one.

That's a classic.

That's a classic.

OK, Annebeth, and obviously,

feel free to jump in if you have any.

If I remember any of these.

Oh, God, that was so many.

Annebeth, because it's the,

God, there's so many good ones.

And my favorite, is it my favorite?

I think my favorite vine of all time is,

I forget who made it.

It was Um Heather, and I forget the dude's username,

but it was on his account.

And it was the one where he comes up with a pizza,

and he goes, did anyone order a big sausage pizza?

And then Heather goes,

I did, but I don't have any money.

And then it goes, and she winks at him,

and then he goes back, and he goes,

what the f*** did you order a pizza?

And then it cuts halfway through his pizza.

So good.

So that's Annebeth, because it's the correct answer.

And then I want to give Piper,

just because of like the charm speaking stuff,

I want to give Piper the, and they were roommates.

Oh, yes.

Oh, that's perfect.

I like that one.

I'm trying to think of other ones.

I don't know if any of your coming to mind.

My favorite, I don't know if anyone else knows this one,

but it's the guy's going, good credit, bad credit,

no credit, no problem.

Are you dead?

Go spoil it.

And then the guy's comes, I want to get me a Subaru.

That's Nico.

Yeah, that's good.

That's good.

Oh, the look at all these chickens is frank, obviously.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tate of Fleur on the room is Jason.

Yeah, that's good, because of, yeah, that's really good.

What else?

What?

Man, so many good ones.

Let's see, Grover, the guy that hasn't found his berries,

what is guy that hasn't found his berries?

What is that one?

Do you know how much found the berries?

Mm-mm.

No, don't know that one.

That's great.

Look, that's a beauty of mine is like, everyone can know one

and be like, never heard that one before.

I would say, oh, the, I guess this would

just be like for the books and stuff,

but my friend Mike, Mike Meeks did, he's,

he was, if not my favorite finder,

I think my favorite finder, he's so funny.

He had one, he had one where it's like him laying in bed

and it's like, he's being both people at conversation.

He goes like, hey, babe, do that voice I like.

And he turns the other side and it's the other partner.

And he goes, meanwhile, our heroes, so good, so good.

Man, that's a great question.

So a lot of the subjects, like,

breezy spellings, so this is from Jon,

he's going, breezy with a Y.

Jon asks, for the seven, how far do you think they would

get into Hades of a Deer game?

And I'm going to try, no revives, repeat runs,

like, Zagros, guess?

Like Zagros, guess?

Yeah, so just like straight run through.

Okay, Nico would win on his first try.

He lives there.

He lives there.

He knows all about the underworld, like he's,

he's got the literal, like the same sword

that Zagros uses, like, yeah, he'll be totally fine.

Percy just feels like he'd be good at video games,

but not, like, amazing.

Grover feels like he'd be very good.

I think Grover would beat it quite quickly.

Annabeth would be atrocious.

She would be horrendous at the game.

And she'd be really annoyed at it, very upset.

And she'd be like, this doesn't make any sense.

Like, she'd be upset at like the certain powerups

from the certain gods.

The Athena's are like really strong,

so I think she would like that.

Hades, all I think would also probably be good.

No, she's from the 1940s.

She'd be so bad.

She wouldn't understand anything.

She'd be like a mouse.

I thought that's a normal, yeah.

She would be really bad.

Wouldn't, but like, so maybe she's like in the middle,

like she's got the underworld side of things,

but contrast has no idea what a computer is.

I feel like Frank has video game play vibes.

Yeah, I think Frank, Frank, he feels nerdy enough

where he'd be, he'd do pretty solid.

I think Octavian would be really bad,

and he would be the kind of guy that, like,

rage quits and like throws his controller across through.

He would probably tell everyone that he did great.

Oh, yeah, he lies about his stats.

Oh, yeah, I cleared it in five tries.

Yeah, okay, sure, but yeah.

Yeah.

So this one comes from Emily,

and she's gone with just Bruce Vegas,

instead of either Bruce Vegas, yeah, yeah.

When the PJR character's enter a room,

what song would play for them?

Oh, when they enter a room,

what song would play for them?

Interesting.

I would just because of the old schoolness in the New Orleans,

I would love like when Hazel enters a room,

it just is like a brass band rendition of Oh

when the scenes come marching in.

It's a very New Orleans though,

we'd be able to just like play in that.

You can get the different things where there's like a wedding,

like where they'll like proceed along with you.

Like, I think that could be really fun.

Percy would have to be Sebination Army

from the White Stripes,

because that's canonically the only band he thinks is good.

I mean, Kyron, obviously it's got to be something

from Dean Martin.

Sure.

Grover, it's got to be the discography of Hillary Duff.

Yeah, like...

Niko is my chemical romance.

Yeah, it just...

Oh, he's, he's the, oh, I'm walking in with him.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

I know, I know, I know.

Every door, he opens up.

Oh, I jumped in.

Like every single time he opens a door.

Yeah.

Yeah, very good, very good.

So this one comes from Max.

And Max has said,

you spoke in about how the Herelips of Olympia,

and sorry, the Herelips of Olympus can't read.

Series would work best as an animated TV series.

What animation style do you think it should be?

Ooh, what animation style.

Well, obviously I wanted to be a K-drama,

but it's not gonna happen.

So if it's an animated show, oh my gosh,

I don't feel it.

You are well more equipped for this than me.

So please take the floor.

I'll say just because I'm obsessed right now,

it's the Mighty Nines style,

like animation, it's D&D.

So it's critical role.

Okay, okay.

Yeah, second show.

Okay, technically.

Yes, so that-

What's the art style of that like?

Oh, how do I describe that?

Like it's an adult.

I'll bring it up.

Yeah, okay.

So very specific style that they also did for the preview shows.

Vox Machino is also in the same realm,

but I think it's a little bit more mature.

It's like invincible, also kind of the same realm.

Oh, yeah, that does like invincible,

where it's like, yeah, it's like anime,

but like comic bookies.

Yes, yes, yes.

Okay, I think that would work.

That would work.

That'd be fun.

I've mentioned this for stuff in the past,

but just like whatever animation style is that they use

in like Spiderverse and that one puts in Boots movie.

Like that's, I think it's the like comic bookie

and all that kind of stuff.

Ooh, like an arcane one.

Also, that could work.

Okay.

Very flowy, very like polished, very nice.

Yeah, I think it would work.

I think it would work.

That'd be fun.

So, I know, I agree with you.

Okay.

So there's quite of us that animation style

is everywhere I can see.

So I'm just going to let everyone know.

If you did write a sports related question,

I am going to give you bias to this person.

Yeah, let's get it.

So Katie has said justice for the Brisbane Roar,

which is the soccer team.

The Brisbane Roar.

The Brisbane Roar.

Roar.

Roar.

R.A.W.?

R.A.

Roar.

Roar.

Brisbane Roar.

Okay.

It's a very lion heavy town.

So, Katie's actually come from a grandma

that's 100th birthday party, which is amazing.

That's so cool.

Congrats here, grandma.

And so she had in honor of SC,

what do you think the various demigods

would be like as grandparents?

Oh, what would they be like as grandparents?

Wow.

Percy would be the sneak the kid

whose parents don't let him have candy.

Candy?

Candy grandparents, like either people like here

some blue M&M's, as far as who I think.

I think...

And it will still be parenting everyone.

Yeah.

Yeah, she's the like kind of schooled

and...

Not saying things verbally,

but she's like one little,

and she's like, stay there.

Yeah, stern look grandma.

Yeah, don't touch my stuff.

Yeah, that's good.

Frank would be the like, have fun playing and stuff.

Like, oh, let's play with their stuff.

The animals would play with their legs.

Like, he just feels like a true kid at heart, you know?

Even if he was in his 90s.

Leo would just be like the cool grandpa, like shouting.

Probably just still having fun.

Yeah.

Probably talking a lot.

Yeah, playing and stuff.

And like making toys for the kids.

Oh, that'd be fun.

Oh, Hazel would be the like good old Southern home cook

and grandma.

Yes, yes.

Let me cook you up my famous recipe.

Yeah, she'd be really good with that.

Oh, Piper would be the grandma

that has like the perfectly decorated house.

So like everything is just everything's in its place

and all of the frame photos of the family.

Probably the theories of something.

Piper would also be the one to make the food for the kids

because she didn't get that growing up.

Oh, get the vegetarian food.

Yeah, that'd be fun.

Who did we, Leo Jason?

Ooh, all American grandpa.

Baseball.

I could see him being the like, that's your grandpa like 90.

Well, like you're like, I just like,

prove from the great British big off.

Just said she's retiring.

And was like, oh, yeah, I'm 86 years old.

I was like, you're 86.

You look fantastic.

Like I feel like I'd be Jason.

Yeah, it happens a lot, so it's fine.

It would just like look like still like young and vibrant

and you know, it's still ready to hang with the young

and it's a great question.

That's really fun.

So this next question comes from Mackenzie.

The first part is did Kelly get BTS tickets?

Yes, we stayed up here.

Oh, let's do the whole deal.

Yeah.

You all know how annoying time zones are here.

So the BTS is coming back for Union tour.

Like air rang or something, some tour name

that I don't know what it mean.

Yeah, what does it mean?

Ari Rying?

It's a Korean folks song, cool.

So they're coming back and Kelly was like,

all stoked to get tickets.

They're coming to New York.

We did the thing where we like reupped our reverse accounts

and got in on the pre-sales,

blah, blah, blah, sign up for the three cities.

We're all ready to go.

The way it worked was that time zone wise,

they went live at like 11 a.m. Eastern local time,

which of course was four in the morning here.

And yes.

Kelly was going to bed at midnight

and there was going to like wake up at 3.45 and then come up.

I had to finish the episode that's up now,

the one about the finale.

So I was like, I got to stay up doing this episode anyway.

I'll just like work through the night

and then make sure I'm done by four

and then we'll do the whole thing.

I fell asleep at 130 on the couch working.

But I woke up to my just in case I fall asleep alarm

at 3.45 and Kelly was getting up.

We both got up and then we do the things.

So the way it works is like you get into the pre-sale

and then they do the thing where like you under the waiting room

and these, the ones who are going for it,

were at Medlife Stadium in New York

where it's the ticket master.

So we like do that and it goes and I,

there was like two nights they were doing in New York.

So we're each in two.

So there's like four total, my spot and lines was like 39,000

and 41,000.

We had friends that were in like the 50,000s

and then Kelly got like half as much.

So she was like 18,000 and 19,000.

So we're like, cool, we're doing yours.

And then you know, like if you've ever bought tickets

through this thing, like once it gets in,

you have to like go and be like, those click and then do it.

And there's like someone else got them like,

ah, ah, ah, ah, and then like go to these.

So we like frantically got three tickets for,

I think the Sunday show and then after we like bought them

because we have friends that are trying to go

and you know, you go like, we'll buy you a ticket

to give it to you, blah, blah, blah.

So we bought three to that, then Kelly got two better seats

for the other night and then it turns out that like

one of her other friends are going with other people

then one of her friends didn't get like tickets at all.

It all worked out to her basically Kelly and I are going

to go to the better seats, two tickets that we got.

And then she had a friend who needed three tickets

or giving the, they're going to pay a space value for them

because they're very expensive tickets.

We're going to give the three to the friend.

So yes, we got it.

And then I then stayed up until past that

because we had a friend trying to get tickets

for the Baltimore show.

And then that was at like, I think those went live

like at five in the morning.

I don't know if that was, maybe this was the three in the morning

and the Baltimore was at four.

I think that might have been what it was.

So I stayed up to help with that.

So I was helping our friend because she helped us

with other ticket things in the past.

So then I didn't end up going to bed

until five in the morning

because I was helping friends with the other thing.

My favorite part of the story is your dad,

the messaging Kelly at nine a.m.

being like, did you know BTS is coming back?

The best is my dad sends an email to Kelly

after we've gotten the tickets like forwards it

because he got some like thing that like

for a ticket master thing because my dad goes to concerts

and stuff.

And it was like, BTS is back and he forwarded to Kelly.

Like she didn't already know.

But this happens, my dad will sometimes send me things

from like the next one will be like,

Jay Lambrunson's name to the All-Star team is like,

yeah dad, if that four minutes went by,

I wouldn't know like, I don't know that you understand

how often I go to Reddit art slash NBA and check the news.

It's great.

He's lovely and he's very sweet.

It was very sweet.

It was very, very sweet.

We got the tickets and didn't get a lot of sleep.

Exactly.

But can he actually a question was,

since Naker got turned into corn,

what other plant or common farming product

would everyone else be turned into?

That's great.

What other plants?

I mean, I think would maybe get turned into

some sort of barnyard animal.

Or just wheat, maybe.

Yeah, wheat probably.

And then let's see.

Yeah, I'm just stank.

It's hazel just a hazel nut.

Oh, that's fun.

Hazel is a hazel nut is very fun.

Gosh, what's the most American plant?

It's corn though.

Like, it's a corn.

It has to be corn too.

Jason's also corn.

He's, he is also corn.

Percy, is there a blue plant that he could turn into?

Is there a watermelon?

As a watermelon, he could be a cactus

because there's water within him.

Seaweed, but that's not farming.

Cramberries, they float in the water.

Yeah, a lot of things.

Yeah, many, many things there.

Rice.

Rice.

Many things.

Clearly the answer is yes.

Yes.

There's many things.

It's a fun question, but yeah.

So this one goes from Robbie,

and I really like three words.

Hello.

Oh, but spelled like.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He wants to know, if you had to cost an MBA slash WMBA

player, Aubrey's been bullets,

to betray the big three coronaries

and Gaia, Ojiya, who would you pick?

To battle against.

No, no, no, to be them in the show.

Oh, to cast and W as the big three coronaries and Gaia.

OK.

Gaia, I'm going to give Diana Tarasi

because she's the best trash talker in WMBA history.

And Gaia is always trying to get in people's heads.

Cronos, oh man.

I feel like Cronos Shaquille O'Neill could be a good Cronos

because Shaq is the classic like back in my era.

I would have put him through the basket.

And Cronos feels like a big like back in my era,

the golden era, it was better kind of thing.

And then the big three, so like Hades and Poseidon and Zeus.

Poseidon is Clay Thompson.

Because if you're familiar with Clay Thompson,

he like, when he was with the golden say worries,

he would like take a boat to games.

Like he would drive a boat to commute to his game.

He's just like, loves me and out on the sea.

And then Hades have to be like underground semi misunderstood.

I feel like, what's his name?

James Hodden.

I don't know why.

But that just vibrates.

Like sad.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Sad to sad.

Yeah, that could work.

Zeus.

Zeus like.

Who's just in the number one?

Yeah.

It's like, good.

It's an MJ.

It could be, yeah, it could be like MJ or LeBron