#222: Jay Clouse – 1 Million Podcast Downloads In Less Than 2 Years

Jay Clouse is a podcaster and creator. He is the host of Creative Elements, a show with over 1 million downloads (in just than 2 years). In today's interview, he talked about how to create unique messaging, his MOAT method, what it was like to work with Pat Flynn, how his voice is so silky smooth, and much more.

Topics:

(0:00) Intro

(0:25) How Jay helped his dad plant trees

(4:30) Why Jay's 1 year of journalism was his most impactful

(6:43) Inverted pyramid (style of writing)

(10:55) Turning blog posts into books

(14:05) "Lifestyle of an author"

(17:13) Timeless principles of creators (The MOAT Method)

(22:43) Messaging as a creator

(24:47) Working with Pat Flynn

(30:02) The highs and lows of being a creator

(35:12) Living on $24,000/year

(38:00) How does it feel to look back on it?

(39:50) Winning a negotiation

(41:50) Origin of money story problem

(43:20) How to get over the money story?

(44:22) Jay's podcast changing his money story

(46:54) Jay's silky smooth voice

(51:20) Day-to-day energy levels

(52:34) Work like a lion

(54:23) Repurposing ideas

(58:40) Cold emailing (The Rule of One Scroll)

(1:03:13) Growth for podcasters and creators

(1:11:24) Connecting with Jay

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