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Krystal and Saagar discuss Trump preparing forever war, Hegseth rages at media, CIA Kurdish psyop, Congress backs Iran war.
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Good morning everybody, happy Thursday.
We have an amazing show for everybody today.
What do you have, Crystal?
Do we do a lot of updates for you?
A lot of comments from Trump and Hegseth
and others with regards to the war,
raising more questions on their answering,
continuing in that direction.
We've got lots of updates with regard
to the kinetic action, the war specifically,
including what appears to have been a siop
from our government and the Israelis
about a Kurdish invasion of Iran's
will break down for you.
What we know there, we also had the war powers resolution
vote in the Senate yesterday.
It went down effectively along party lines.
We're also looking at a potentially $50 billion
supplemental funding requests from the White House
for more arms to fund this war effort and Democrats.
Number of them, apparently going along with this
are open to going along with this in any case.
We're gonna take a little trip down memory lane,
look back at some of the very clear cut comments
that were made by, oh, I don't know,
Trump, JD Vance, Stephen Miller,
our of K-Junior, Tulsi Gabbard, and others saying,
we will not go to war with Iran.
Pretty funny that that's what their line was then,
and obviously we are where we are now.
And also, more and more American politicians
are framing this as a religious war.
So Emily is gonna join us to tell us
what the hell is going on with that,
because this is not our area of expertise,
so she's gonna break it down.
She's our religion correspondent.
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But more importantly, I think, Crystal,
now is a time more than ever.
With the mainstream media,
we're gonna play a clip later on in our show
where they're like, oh, we can't show you that,
because Israel doesn't want us to.
Where we're trying our best.
I know that there's so many people here and around the world
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We take this responsibility really, really seriously.
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We've had a huge surge of both people tuning into the show
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who are newly in that.
Let's get to the latest.
That's right, let's go ahead and start here
with some of the latest comments from the secretary,
Hegseth about the timeline of this war.
It's supposed to be a couple days,
then it was supposed to be a couple weeks.
And now it might be eight weeks, it might be eight months.
Who knows? Here's the secretary
at a conference yesterday at the Pentagon.
Let's take a listen.
In a few days, in under a week,
the two most powerful air forces in the world
will have complete control of Iranian skies,
uncontested airspace.
I hope all the folks watching understand
what uncontested airspace and complete control means.
It means we will fly all day, all night,
day and night, finding, fixing and finishing
the missiles and defense industrial base
of the Iranian military finding
and fixing their leaders and their military leaders.
Flying over to Iran, flying over Iran,
flying over their capital, flying over the RGC,
Iranian leaders, looking up and seeing only US
and Israeli air power, every minute of every day
until we decide it's over.
And Iran will be able to do nothing about it.
B2s, B52s, B1s, Predator drones, fighters,
controlling the skies, picking targets,
death and destruction from the sky,
all day long.
So direct quote, you can say four weeks,
it could be six, it could be eight, it could be three.
Let me read you a quote from February 7th, 2003,
Donald Rumsfeld.
It could be at last, you know, six days, six weeks,
I doubt six months, there you go.
So if you all want to know exactly the situation
that we're in right now, already boots on the ground,
remain on the table.
Here is the press secretary, Caroline Levit,
refusing to rule that out the White House podium.
Let's take a listen.
Could you tell us about the President's current thinking
about ground troops and whether they could be used,
if they were to be sent into Iran,
what would they be used for?
What's the situation?
Well, they're not part of the plan
for this operation at this time,
but I certainly will never take away military options
on behalf of the President of the United States
or the Commander-in-Chief.
And he wisely does not do the same for himself.
I know there's many leaders in the past
who like to take options off of the table
without having a full understanding
of how things could develop.
So again, it's not part of the current plan,
but I'm not going to remove an option for the President,
but that is on the table.
The President had a feeling, again,
based on fact that Iran was going to strike the United States,
was going to strike our assets in the region.
What was that last part?
What does she say?
The President had a feeling, again, based on fact,
that Iran was going to strike the U.S.
because, by his own admission, Israel was going to strike them,
quote unquote, no matter what we were going to do.
I mean, this is a full-fledged, open-ended conflict.
We're going to spend a lot of time,
I think in the remainder of the show,
just to show everybody how the war continues to widen.
The oil markets are already roiling.
There is a matter of days, only days,
while oil storage in many of the Gulf countries
will run out, which will significantly hinder
the production facilities, Qatar, LNG,
already bringing down production and downstream production.
Iraqis have been closing their oil fields,
they only have six days before their entire storage
is taken up.
The Saudis have two months.
Interceptors are all running low.
Boots on the ground are one of the last things
that might be able to change the tactical picture.
As it is, Secretary Hegseth,
we didn't play this clip, but it's important for him to say
that he noted that we'll be shifting in munitions
to the type that we will be using,
which will require U.S. aircraft to spend much more time
deeper inside of Iran,
and also within theoretical range of Iranian air defense systems.
So previously, you know, these B2s and others
are fine from very, very high up.
Now they're going to be moving to different,
this highlights the munitions problem,
which we've been beating the drum here
on the show every single day.
There is not a single off ramp, quote-unquote.
Both sides are leaking the Iranians say they've rejected
three different overtures from the president.
The president and his team have been leaking
that they've rejected multiple calls from the Iranians.
Who knows what is true?
I also think we should really caution everyone.
The censorship in the Gulf and Israel
is out of control right now.
The number of videos we're able to get open source
are dramatically lower.
That's being taken as evidence that the war is going better.
Not true.
It's that censorship is ramping up in all of these countries
to make sure that we have no idea what's going on.
Pay attention to these statements.
The fact that they're having to shift munitions
means that they're running out in some cases.
If you're looking at the prices of oil,
look at the statement specifically about production.
And then later on in the show,
we're going to show everybody some satellite imagery,
which uncontested shows some of the damage
that Iran needs already been able to make on our own bases.
Yeah, that's right.
And, you know, there are indications
that they were able to strike inside of Israel yesterday.
You know, there'd been this whole like,
oh, the pace of their missile launches has slowed down,
but it looks like they had consolidated
a larger launch yesterday.
But again, it's very hard to confirm any of this,
very hard to confirm exactly what the damage was within Israel.
There are also not fully confirmed reports,
but a little more solid drop site is reporting this
that there was a U.S. flagged oil tanker
that was struck and oil was leaking now.
So again, with regard to the wider economic fallout
that is significant.
And there was also a report that in terms of boots
on the ground, which you'll recall,
there were a bunch of senators, Democrats included,
who went into a briefing and came out of it,
indicating we're really even more frightened
and concerned about where this is going,
seemingly indicating that the possibility
of boots on the ground was floated there.
So there's a report that there's a dispute
between Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth, Hegseth,
who's a total psycho, pushing for a ground invasion
and Rubio can more concerned about getting dragged in
to yet another forever war.
Is that report accurate?
I don't know.
I mean, that supposedly there are
at each other's sources, et cetera, et cetera.
This is the palace intrigue,
but that is what is being reported.
And at this point, given the number of officials
who will not take it off the table
and these indications coming from the briefings
that senators are getting,
there is no doubt that this is a live possibility.
I'll put one thing out there that I was seeing this morning.
We haven't even gotten to cover all of the,
what appears to be more insider trading on holly market
with regard to, you know,
oh, this guy happened to call that Maduro
was going to get kidnapped that day.
Oh, we happened also call the date
that Iran would be attacked.
Well, now he's placed a bet on US ground troops invasion.
So read into that what you will.
Well, and I can look, we'll get to that in a little bit
in our update on the Kurdish surge,
but we do want to make unambiguously clear
what the president and his administration have now said
is that this war is a result either of failure, inability
or support for an Israeli preemptive strike on Iran.
The president said just yesterday repeating Israeli propaganda
that Iran was two weeks from a nuclear weapon.
Take a listen.
If we didn't hit within two weeks,
they would have had a nuclear weapon.
If we didn't do the B2 attack a number of months ago,
they would have a nuclear weapon.
When crazy people have nuclear weapons, bad things happen.
So we're a very good shape now.
I want to let you know that and we will continue forward.
So if you're tracking six months ago,
they were close to a nuclear weapon two weeks ago.
They would have also been two weeks away from a nuclear weapon.
And 47 years ago, there were also one week away
from the nuclear weapon.
AKA, they've always been just one week away
from a nuclear weapon.
I mean, it's a mean, but it's not funny
because one of the things that we've seen now
is that when the administration is pressed on this
and they'll say, why now, right?
Why now?
Obviously, one of the why now's is Israel was going to do it.
Allegedly, there was nothing we could do about it.
BS, but that's their explanation.
If you dig further, they go, well,
their ballistic missile shield was a immunity shield
from the ability to stop a new,
it's like this galaxy 60 chess level nonsense.
But Donald Trump is now saying, on ambiguous look,
I know that, you know, nothing matters or whatever.
But like two weeks away from it, it's literally not true.
The IAEA says it's not true.
US intelligence says it's not true.
Not even Israelis were claiming
that they're a week or two weeks away from a nuclear.
This is the first time in history, they're not the ones
who are even giving that level of pretext.
And this is now being parodied, you know,
about by the president of the United States
bandied out by the Secretary of Defense,
the Secretary of State every single time
that they're out in public and going on the record
in a WMD style propaganda.
I even saw somebody use the term,
we don't want it to see a mushroom cloud as evident,
which is, I mean, look, I know a large,
a lot of the people who are watching right now
were literally not even alive.
To see all that, in fact, I'll talk about this later,
one of the troops who was killed was literally
not even alive whenever that propaganda was made.
He was born four to five years after 9-11
and he just died in Kuwait fighting in another Middle Eastern war.
But just to think about how the recycling
of the talking points of the personalities of Dana Perino,
I saw a screenshot of her yesterday.
It was like, war in Iran going so successful.
I think it was Tommy Vieter.
He's like privileged to be alive
to watch her shilf for a regime change war
as a bush flack.
And now on Fox News, Britt Hume,
who was there for both, is doing the same nonsense.
Condoleezza Rice was on yesterday on Fox talking about,
oh, president, Mr. President finished the job.
The same cast of characters who are here to sell us the same lives.
Yeah, which is why it would have been really important
to excise all of these people from public life,
but the vast majority of them just failed up
and are still with us and in some cases
in control of powerful institutions today.
So, no, I mean, it is so insane that we are now
in this rapidly escalating, out of control escalation,
regional war with unknown cascading, damaging impacts.
And the President of the United States cannot even tell us why.
Can't even tell us why.
Can't tell us why, can't tell us why.
Now, every day from a different official,
we get a different explanation.
Now, to be clear, I'm opposed to all of those explanations,
but it is utter insanity that they launched this
without even having their story straight about what we're doing,
why we're doing it, and why we're doing it now.
You are asking the American taxpayer to foot the bill
for billions of dollars, the estimate is a billion dollars
every single day that this goes on.
You are asking these service members to risk their lives
for a conflict that you cannot even explain
why we're doing it, and why now.
It is so insane that we are at this place,
and yet here we are.
I mean, there is very little public support for this.
We have all sorts of problems here at home.
They just refuse to extend the ACA subsidies as one example.
The cost of this war already could have covered
the cost of the increase in premiums
for millions of Americans.
So that's where we are.
And every day the President comes out
and has some new story about what the hell is going on here.
Yeah, and a new Pentagon estimate from Nancy UCF.
She's a longtime Pentagon reporter.
I've known her for years.
She's very good.
She says the internal assessment is $1 billion per day
that the war continues to go on.
That's probably on the low end, because it doesn't even
factor in all of the downstream costs
about moving a carrier strike group.
I mean, I've talked about this here on our show before.
A single carrier strike group operating costs
just to be able to keep them where they are
is about $100 to $200 million.
There are two carrier strike groups that are currently there
in the region, not to mention all of the munitions,
not to mention then all of the loss munitions
and the ability to replace them, which we can't even do.
At the current rate, we're hundreds of billions of dollars
of equipment, of man, military are already there.
And then the actual cost just of ramping things up
is now some $1 billion per day.
It's absurd.
Let's also take an update here on this girls school bombing
that happened on the first day of the campaign.
Yesterday, during the Pentagon briefing,
there was a map that was displayed to the public.
And actually, on that map was a specific dread diamond,
which was on both sides of Minam, which
is exactly where that girls school strike took place.
So there's a lot of questions now
as to whether it was actually the United States
and not Israel that carried out that strike.
They're saying that there's an ongoing investigation,
but he was asked about it by the BBC.
Let's take a listen.
Can you give us an update on what the administration knows,
what you know now about the reported strike on a girls school
in southern Iran on Saturday?
All I know, all I can say is that we're investigating that.
We, of course, never target civilian targets,
but we're taking a look at investigating that.
Red time front.
Just on the basis that with the information
you would have your reconnaissance abilities,
ability to gather information.
I mean, it's several days on now.
So is there any clarity on whose munition this was?
We're investigating it.
We are investigating it.
And again, to make clear, if you look at the map
that was there and you plot the scroll right there,
it's literally right in the cluster zone.
Obviously, I mean, Israelis,
I've already seen their own propaganda.
They're like, it wasn't us,
but if it was us, it would have been fine
because it was an IRGC base.
And in fact, there are some questions here
because apparently it was near an older IRGC base
as to whether this was updated intelligence,
but this is exactly the problem.
I mean, who knows?
Put together that strike package, was it AI?
You know, that was used to say plot all of the known places
and then feed that into the military,
the fact that they're not ruling it out immediately.
I will tell you, having covered many of these things,
that's a problem.
That's a big, big problem.
So this is the total Israelification
of the United States of America.
I mean, this is exactly a type of,
to the extent that Israel would ever get pressed on,
you just murdered a bunch of children,
you just murdered a bunch of patients in the hospital,
whatever, when it would actually become a problem for them,
this is what they would say.
Oh, we're gonna investigate it.
We'll get back to you.
And then do they ever investigate it?
Do they ever get back to you?
Let alone are there ever any consequences
for anyone who was part of that decision-making?
You know the answer to that.
And we can put the next piece up on the screen
because we now have more reporting
about exactly how this strike went down
and again, the Israelification of the US.
It was apparently a double tap strike.
And you guys know what these are intended to do?
You hit an area once this area happened to be
a girls school with children, you know,
age roughly like seven to 12 who were murdered, okay?
Then people gather, they, you know,
they get the survivors, parents rush in,
first responders to try to help,
to try to, you know, staunch the bleeding
and help anyone who can be rescued.
And then once they've gathered, what do you do?
You hit them again.
That's apparently, according to reporting here
from Middle East I, that is what happened in this case.
And I just want you all to remember
that five seconds ago, this president
and this whole regime was talking about how much they care
for the Iranian people.
They want the Iranian people to be free.
They want the Iranian people to throw off their oppressors.
They stand with the protesters in the streets.
And now here we are murdering their little girls.
And, you know, furthermore to the Israelification of this war,
what appears to have happened is initially,
there were, you know, these precision strikes
that took out a bunch of the Iranian leadership,
including assassinating the IAs hola.
And they were hoping that would just lead
to some sort of regime collapse,
which I think also was the hope in Israel
initially went into Gaza because he talked about it all the time.
And that didn't happen.
So now what are they doing?
They're just carpet bombing Tehran.
They're using fewer precision munitions,
more just dumb bombs to, you know, drop on a location
and cause severe damage.
And there is an irony here as well,
because some of the regime's biggest opponents,
the Iranian regime's biggest opponents are in Tehran.
Like that's where the, you know,
more secular, more highly educated, more liberal,
like the, you know, the various protest movements
have largely started in Tehran.
There are other, you know, areas of resistance
to the Iranian government as well within the country,
but Tehran is a hotbed.
And that's the place where the most death and destruction
and chaos, which Hegseth is out there bragging about,
that's where they really focus to these bombing campaigns.
Look, like I said, we don't know if it was us or not.
I can just say I haven't covered the Pentagon.
Usually these investigations and all,
if it's not us, they usually say pretty quickly.
And if it is, it drags on for a while
before somebody does eventually admit it.
And it will be a gigantic scandal.
And it should be.
And I saw some of these in Afghanistan, in Iraq,
covered, do you remember that hospital that was,
that was struck in Afghanistan?
I covered that entire thing.
It was a total nightmare.
A lot of the initial statements that came out
from the military were totally not true.
A lot of the investigation later that followed up,
it was horrific what actually ended up happening.
I really hope that it wasn't us.
However, you know, part of the danger
is that between us and Israel, it's gonna be a big,
you know, it's like, are we gonna just come out
and say actually it was them?
And then they're, you know, they're very happy to say,
actually, no, it was us.
And what somebody did it, you know,
and initially there was some Israeli claims.
They're like, oh, it was a failed IRGC missile.
And all of that, there's no evidence now currently
to suggest any of that.
But this will be a major, major hit
to the prestige of the US military.
And I mean, even if it was Israel,
and it was done in a joint conjunction
with US Israeli strike,
there's a lot of complicity that comes in that too
for not just selling the weapons, for supporting,
or being part and attached to something like that.
And it does show you even the dangers
of a so-called precision bombing campaign,
which Professor Robert Pate has really been warning about.
I mean, between the, it being, you know,
a dot on the map of the strike locations,
and the fact that they will not say that it was not us.
I mean, it seems pretty,
there are two suspects, Israel or the US.
And, you know, the fact that we're not denying it at this point,
I think makes it pretty clear what ultimately happened here.
And your point about AI, I think,
is a really important one just to pause on for a moment.
A part of why Gaza was so deadly and so horrifying
is because it was the first, you know,
AI enabled ultimately genocide.
And the amount of target generation
that was created is what helped to enable
the death and destruction in Gaza.
And now you have, you know, they're still using cloth,
they're still using an anthropic,
even though they're having some whole spat over that.
And, you know, anthropic, as much as they have this brand
that they've publicly created,
oh, we're the good guys and we care about humanity, blah, blah, blah.
Well, that's the AI that is being used
to generate strike packages and presumably
to help create the level of death and destruction
and the deadly nature of what's going on here.
You know, the estimates are at this point,
some around 1,000 Iranians who have been killed,
although it's very difficult to know
precisely what the numbers are for them.
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So let's then turn to what I thought
was one of the most single disgraceful utterances
by a US Secretary of Defense ever.
Here is Secretary Hegseth, who is chastising the media
for covering the deaths of American soldiers
and not appropriately cheerleading the war on enough.
I couldn't believe it whenever I saw this happen live.
Let's take a listen.
This is what the fake news misses.
We've taken control of Iran's airspace and waterways
without boots on the ground.
We control their fate.
But when a few drones get through
or tragic things happen, it's front page news.
I get it.
The press only wants to make the president look bad,
but try for once to report the reality.
The terms of this war will be set by us at every step.
And so he is saying that the fake news does their part
by trying to make the president look bad
because some tragic things happen.
Can you imagine a more disgraceful statement
where he is chastising us for covering the deaths
of American soldiers, American soldiers, by the way,
who it appears were not inappropriately fortified
tactile operation center who by their own admission.
I mean, one of these women who was killed in the strike
had apparently spoken to her husband
according to his own interviews
about how she was worried about what was going on.
She was working here in the tactile operation center.
And what they had done is that they were fighting
like the last wars.
So they put up these walls that were around the operation center
which were designed for suicide bomb attacks.
But anybody who has watched literally anything
about the now four year long war in Ukraine knows
that that's not how it was going to come any sort of attack.
It was gonna be by a suicide drone.
And that is exactly what happened,
which appeared to have a direct strike directly on here,
which raises a whole number of questions.
Number one, why was there no counter drone stuff
that was even prepared?
Right now the US military is scrambling
and is going to buy counter drone technology from the Ukrainians.
Not sure why we have to buy it
since we're the ones who paid for it, but okay.
So we're gonna buy all of this counter drone technology stuff
from the Ukrainians, which means that we didn't do any studying.
We actually didn't prepare properly for a lot of the bases
by Donald Trump's own admission.
They have said that they were not prepared for some
of the strikes that were on the Gulf.
So that means there wasn't an active, active planning
that happened inside.
And now the six of these Americans are dead.
And what's worst about it is that they keep saying,
oh, that's just the first of many to come.
They keep saying, oh, more casualties could be more.
I mean, God only knows are there more
that they haven't told us about?
Oh, not, right?
Having covered this for a long time,
usually they just come out within 24 hours,
but at the very least they're expecting more.
And the fact that they're expecting
and preparing the public for more,
and this is the way that they want to cover it
is beyond disgraceful, beyond disgraceful.
So let's, you know, they don't want us to cover
apparently these troops because it's bad for morale.
It's not our job to do morale.
That's not our job at all.
Let's put some of these up here on the screen.
The Pentagon is now ID'd six of the soldiers
who were killed in the Kuwait attack.
All many of them were attached to this army reserve unit
out of Des Moines, Iowa.
And actually from their ranks,
you can see that many of these were very senior
US Army personnel.
But the one that sticks with me is this one,
Sergeant Declan Cody.
He was 20 years old.
He was a student in, he was a student
who was studying information systems
who was taking classes online from Kuwait.
And again, a member of the US Army Reserve,
and I want this to also show everybody too.
These are people who never, I mean, look,
they volunteered, I'm not stepping away from that.
But it shows you the problem of our overextended empire
is that our bases have to be staffed by US Army reservists
because we don't even have enough troops
to be able to staff all these ways
even in a potential active war zone.
And here you have a 20 year old kid
who had his entire life ahead of him who was born.
And I can't, I just can't get away from this.
Four to five years after 9-11,
who just perished in another American war in the Middle East.
How does that not break your heart?
I've covered so many of these over the years,
written obituaries for kids younger than me.
I wrote my first obituary for a kid who was younger than me
nine years ago who stepped on an IED in Iraq
and know so many people who were wounded
or even families of the people who were killed
who were over there.
And now we have another one.
And the Secretary of Defense is telling us
that it is, basically, this is 2002, 2000 era BS.
Freedom isn't free.
The only way to support our troops
and mourn our debt is to support the war.
It's to support the president.
And there is nothing less patriotic actually than that.
And we're not following for this bullshit again.
We are not following for this bullshit again.
I just think it's not just about disgrace.
If you ask me, there hasn't been enough media coverage
actually of these people.
Because we should learn the cost.
We talked about the girls.
They're dead, okay?
Little girls are dead.
Who knows who killed them?
Now these people, they're dead.
I mean, these American soldiers are dead
at the decision point of the United States president
and of the Israeli president.
And they're blood.
It's on our leadership.
Yeah.
People to say that without being denigrated as cowards
or anti-war, anti-American.
It's anti-American to mourn the deaths of a 20-year-old kid
who was in Kuwait, right?
It's just, it really, really tends to be.
It reminds so much of how they were trying to
during the rock war hide the coffins coming home.
They didn't want photographs.
They didn't want pictures of that.
Because yeah, they don't want people
to actually grapple with the cost.
And the elites of this country,
it's not there since and daughters by and large
you go and fight and die.
And these wars, Barron's not going to be
headed over there anytime soon.
And they seem to view all of this,
like it's some kind of game.
Or a TV show, yeah.
TV show is, I mean, obviously we have a reality TV president.
But Pete Hegseth too is primarily TV personality.
And he's a man who is clearly out of his depth.
And he knows that.
And so he has adopted this persona
that he thinks makes him look like a tough guy.
And he's adopted these sort of like habits of discourse
that he's drawn from, you know,
what he thinks Trump would say and Trump's the ultimate,
you know, the ultimate daddy figure for the mega right.
And so he thinks that by lashing out
at the fake news media trying to make the president
look good, look bad rather that he's going to look
like a big man.
He's going to look like he's doing the right thing here.
And, you know, I mean, this whole presser
where he's talking about we're going to rain down
death and destruction.
He's playing a character.
He's decided he wants to adopt this persona
of like a comic book villain.
And that's his whole approach to this
because he does not know what he's doing.
We before this, I mean, at the very beginning
of the administration, we're reporting about
how the Pentagon is told chaos under him.
Like he has no business being in this position.
And what a disgrace that now we have American service members
dead, we have Iranian civilians dead.
We have people dead throughout the entire region.
Kuwaiti soldiers who've been killed.
Absolutely.
Guards, random personnel, airport guys.
I mean, Israelis are blown up the police stations in Iran
because they want to have foam at chaos and civil war
and some sort of uprising.
And the president of the United States
cannot even give a straight answer about what the hell
the goal is and why we're doing it.
Just think about that.
And, you know, I keep coming back to some of the emails
that reveal the way that these people
just do not see others below the elite class
as being truly human.
So they're happy to throw, you know, your sons and daughters
into a meat grinder because, you know,
for whatever reasons, because Israel pressured us,
because I want to look like a big tough guy,
because I feel like more of a man
when I can send American fighters in potentially
to their death.
And, you know, that's, it's sick.
It's depraved.
And that's exactly what's going on here.
I want to call now for a video
which is put out by the White House
where they literally edited war that is currently happening
with an intro from a video game
just to show you the entertainment value.
Let's take a listen.
So there you go.
They're literally tweeting out.
That's an actual video.
We're released by the White House
of the United States of America
with the title, courtesy of the red, white, and blue.
Country music, lyrics, and video games.
It's not a game.
It's not a game to the family of a 20-year-old.
It's not a game to a mother of two.
And think about, you know, some of these people,
there, you read their stories in this NBC News article.
They're like, oh, she loved gardening, you know?
And these people are dead.
Not to mention some of these girls.
And others, in Iowa, they're mourning them.
You know, the university of this kid went to,
they're talking about, oh, he was so great.
Loved his work.
Is it his father and sister talking about this?
His sister was talking about how upset she was,
thinking about how scared he was near the end.
People shouldn't have to think that.
Or if their lives are gonna be on the line.
And everyone's like, oh, they volunteered for it.
I mean, look, yeah, I think they volunteered, you know,
with the theory, at least I think, the theory,
that their lives would not be fodder for video games
and for, you know, ego maniacal power plays
or being jerked around by Israel or
your religious blood holy wars.
Exactly.
And so that is the ultimate, you know, screw you, I think,
to in all volunteer military force.
Yeah, and look, the military brass,
the chair of the joint chiefs was warning.
Like, it's not like they didn't know, right?
I mean, we're not rocket scientists over here.
And we've been tracking this problem
with the stockpiles of weaponry and interceptors
in particular, you know, this drone technology
has been used extensively in Ukraine, these Shahid drones.
And so this was all known.
It was all very predictable.
And yet, you know, these individuals,
these service members were in completely unprotected
in like a triple-wide trailer.
And the US rushes into this thing
because of whatever basket of weird reasons,
many of which we still don't even know.
But with this, yeah, this holy war, you know,
justification now increasingly coming out.
And of course, headsets got his crusader,
cross tattoo, et cetera, et cetera.
Trump, who knows what's in the Epstein files
and what his and the money he's taken from Miriam Adelson
and what else going on in the background.
And he feels like such a big tough guy after Venezuela
and all of that fuels now us being pushed into this conflict
that the American people do not support.
And so, yeah, it's sad, these individuals
trusted the American government to take their lives
seriously and to not risk their lives
without a good reason.
And ultimately, you know, they were betrayed.
Yeah.
That's the bottom line.
I think everybody should be able to say that.
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Turning now to some updates on the battlefield,
a huge decision leaking out now from Washington.
Let's put this up here on the screen.
Do keep some of this in mind that things are fast moving,
and this itself could be a bit of a change.
But what they're reporting is a Trump calls on the Kurds
to aid U.S. effort in Iran, quote, offers support.
In my opinion, they're dramatically underplaying this
because they say, quote,
and calls this week to Kurdish minority leaders in Iran
and neighboring Iraq.
President Trump has offered, quote, extensive U.S. air cover
and other backing for anti-regime Iranian Kurds
to take over portions of Western Iran.
This is basically the 2001 Afghanistan model.
And this is the closest that we are going to come now
so far of an admission about boots on the ground.
In fact, Chris, if you pair some of the fear
of those Democratic senators,
I believe that this is what it was about.
Because just to explain, if you weren't following,
the way that it worked is that we had the so-called
like special forces, advisors that were on the ground
with the Northern Alliance.
There were calling in airstrikes.
We had air cover that would come in support the army.
CIA, actually, I believe the CIA,
officer was the first person who was even killed
in the war in Afghanistan.
So you could see that this is exactly the way
that this would happen.
We know from some previous reporting already
that many of these Kurdish separatist groups
inside of Iran have had CIA munitions provided to them now
for weeks in addition to Mossad.
It would make sense, too, because we know from the Mossad
and from others that there was a lot of smuggling
to inside of Iran during the protest movement,
which would make sense.
Now, we also know in Northern Iraq,
which is where all the Kurds is Kurdistan
as part of that country, that many of these groups,
it's like transnational in terms of moving back and forth.
There's a lot of loyalty, of course,
and support from the military.
There's a military base.
So if there was a US support civil war effort,
this is exactly what it would look like.
This would, of course, be a direct effort
to balkanize and destroy the entire country.
That's what you do.
This is civil war.
This is the Afghanistan Libya Syria model.
What you do, you pour a bunch of weapons into a group
and you basically say we've got your back.
You don't actually have their back
as the Kurds, I think, have learned for many years,
but you will be a useful tool.
Yeah, they probably have.
I don't know.
This time, we promise, right?
This time, so we're gonna give you a bunch of weapons,
we'll give you some air cover,
and we're gonna use you as a tool,
as a cudgel to basically try to destroy the regime.
In the interim, who's gonna take that laying down?
Oh, Ankara, I'm sure that the Turks will just be like,
oh, for sure, we'll allow an independent Kurdistan
to happen there.
Nope, not going to happen.
There will be some funneling itself of weapons,
perhaps their own use of air strikes.
Everything I'm talking about already happened in Syria,
literally, within the last decade.
We know that this will happen.
And then what's going to happen?
Well, that's gonna inspire some sectarian conflict,
which usually goes super well, right?
For the United States, we've definitely got a handle on that,
a nationalism, let's say amongst the Iranian population,
which is still loyal to the regime.
They'll call up young people.
It's as if the Iranian rock war,
one of the bloodiest conflicts in human history
had never happened before.
Look at their capacity for suffering,
for death, to be able to absorb all of these losses,
even whenever we're striking them from the air.
So this is not just an effort at regime chain,
it is an effort at regime collapse,
a full-blown insurgency.
92 million people live in this country,
so many different populi-
with azeris and all these other people
who are all talking right now, they'll get involved,
their proxies and others will funnel weapons,
and it will look like Syria or Libya,
completely collapse failed state,
except with 10X the population,
refugees going everywhere,
already seeing reports about people trying to leave,
the country of Iran.
Yesterday, somebody was talking to me about this Pakistani
faction on their border and their own funding
that we could potentially use as a cudgel there.
This is a nightmare.
I mean, it's prepared to get acquainted with terms like
bloke, beloquies and Kurds,
and now there's a Christian population, azeris.
It's not just one homogenous population,
who all hate us, regardless of what the Trump administration
is trying to sell.
This is the most dangerous turn yet.
This is the Syria-Libya model.
They don't want to declare victory,
and I think this is why the Democratic senators
were sounding the alarm.
There is no possibility of some sort of armed
incursion where you just give them the weapons,
where there aren't U.S. special advisers on the ground.
That's a boot on the ground,
regardless of how they wanted to find it,
or not, happen Afghanistan, happen in Libya,
happen in Syria as well.
And that's why we just withdrew all of our bit.
Why do you think we had all those bases in Syria
for exactly operations like this?
So this is, I mean, also the last thing,
this is an absolute confirmation,
this is going to happen forever.
Like you don't, six weeks, eight weeks, no.
This is a years-long commitment at this point,
if they're going to go down this road.
So we don't know.
I mean, some sources claiming that it's already happening,
some saying no, that's fake news,
but regardless from the very top,
the president of the United States on the phone
with regime change activists saying,
oh, we're going to give you air cover, that's it.
That's a, you know, as long as it gets
in terms of foreign entanglements.
Yeah, there's a lot to learn from this.
There could be one up on the screen,
because initially there were these very certain reports
from all of the like regime stenographers,
like the Barack Reads, et cetera,
that Kurdish forces in Iraq had launched
a ground military offensive into Iran
that this was happening.
They had crossed the borders.
They were in Iran and we covered before how, you know,
we had taken out a bunch of these border guards
along the border to enable exactly this.
So it felt, you know, it seemed credible
and it's exactly the kind of shit that we do all the time
and that the Israelis would be interested
exactly for this reason to try to collapse the state.
This seems to have been, based on what we can tell,
put B2 up on the screen, more of a siop and wish casting
than it was an actual reality in terms of facts on the ground
because the leaders of various of these Kurdish factions
denied that any of this was happening.
So this is from drop site news, some exclusive reporting
from them, they say, multiple media reports,
including some citing anonymous US officials
have indicated Kurdish militants have now crossed
from Iraq into Iran in order to seize Kurdish territory
and spark an uprising.
The reports follow claims the CIA has been seeking
to arm Kurdish fighters to destabilize Iran.
Such an incursion remains a future possibility,
but well-informed sources tell drop site news
no such evasion has yet to take place.
Journalist Alexis Delumi, who is in Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan
reporting for drop site incredible, they have this person,
reports that three sources from the Kurdish liberation movement
with knowledge of the situation have told him,
no such evasion is underway and that PJA,
the only Kurdish organization with robust military capacity
that is part of the coalition being discussed,
is unlikely to make such a move at this moment.
Now, what have these reports done?
Well, for one thing, they create the idea in the public
that you are going to have this uprising,
that you have these forces coming in,
that there's this ground invasion,
and by the way, of course, they don't talk about
our direct involvement in any of this,
that there's this natural organic uprising.
It also makes these Kurdish forces targets for the Iranians,
and in fact, there were reports yesterday
that the Iranians started bombing some of the Kurdish forces
and factions as a result of this reporting,
saying that a ground invasion had already begun.
All of this is a long way to say,
there are already multiple siops that are being operated
by our government, by the Israelis,
no doubt by the Iranians as well.
And so be very, very leery of any of the information
that comes out, wait until things are confirmed with evidence
because the information warfare is just as thick
and just as heavy-handed as the actual warfare on the ground.
That's exactly right.
It's very important, but also you can glean this.
What you can glean is that they want the impression
of a civil war to happen,
to widen the war, to collapse the regime,
to get them afraid inside.
None of this is consistent with any of the current statements,
like at least that are on the record,
from the Secretary of State, from the Vice President.
They're like, look, we just wanted to grade their capacity,
and we would prefer if somebody took over who was better,
but we're not going to do very much about it.
That's not the same thing.
That is not what we are watching all happen in front of our eyes.
Let's actually take a look now at some of the strikes
that are coming out from Tehran,
from a limited amount of video that we've been able to see.
By the way, we should get some better video.
We have a couple international journalists
that just crash the Iranian border this morning,
but you can see, I mean, this is in broad daylight,
just blowing the crap out of buildings.
This is a city of what, 10 million people?
Yeah, millions of people in a highly urban area.
There's some reporting I've seen that a large city portion
of the city has been evacuated,
but what you could really take away, I think, from that,
is that these are, look, wait, again,
we don't even know if it's US or if it's Israeli strikes,
the US government has already said, oh my God,
so much is happening, we haven't even cut this.
Did you notice the secretary of defense and general Cain Bragg?
They said, some of you may remember Iraq 2003.
We have dropped twice the amount of bombs
from 2003, shocking off, and I was like, wait,
we're bragging about that?
I was like, do we look back on that as a victory?
Did anybody at the White House go,
do we really want comparisons to shock and awe?
So they're telling us you can literally take their own word
for it, we've dropped two times the amount of bombs
and shock and awe in the middle of Iraq,
if you remember what all of that looked like.
So remember, again, about censorship
and about some of the video, very limited amount
that is already coming out, which should hopefully
be able to get a little bit more information
as some of these international journalists
continue to cross into Iran.
Let's also, again, just underscore that point.
Here's a clip from CNN, where they're openly saying,
hey, we would show you this, but the Israeli government
doesn't want us to, let's take a listen.
We're not showing you that, because we're not
going to show the Israeli government does not allow us
or want us to show where that may have come up,
that interceptor.
OK, so we're not going to show you that.
I mean, thanks to the honesty, not guests,
but it does demonstrate.
And we've seen this from Trey Yanks, from Jeremy Diamond,
now from CNN, and others.
They're very consistent about, hey, we can't show this to you
because the Israeli government won't less.
In fact, there was a CNN Turk crew, filming crew,
who was detained on camera while they were filming
in the middle of Israel.
And the Israelis were like, hey, you got to stop.
And they took the camera down.
And they started taking.
You remember during the 12-day war,
they did the same thing when you were showing some of the damage
that had already happened.
We do know, from just from the ballistic missile alerts,
that there were tons of alerts last night.
And I wake up this morning, nothing.
There's no video at all.
It's like, really?
You intercepted all of them?
I don't think so.
And yet, that's what the level of war reporting is right now.
Remember in Gaza, too, that they would often
take journalists on a ride and then confiscate
or check their footage whenever they were coming out.
And they said, you're only allowed to report
whatever we tell you.
So everyone would be extremely wary of what that looks.
They're still not allowing international journalists
inside of Gaza.
So I mean, yeah, that's the level of control.
And look, it goes without saying.
It's crazy how these quote unquote journalists,
they just accept this.
They don't even feel ashamed when they're telling you,
we're not going to show this because these really government
doesn't want you to.
I feel like they definitely would feel
more sense of upset if it was the American government
telling if it was Trump who's saying, oh, you can't film that.
They'd be like, screw you.
We're going to film it anyway.
Press freedom, but when it's the Israeli,
oh, we've got to listen to the Israelis.
Can't show that, et cetera, et cetera.
It's crazy.
To that point, let's put B10 actually up on the screen
because it's clear that the person who really
has the broader plan in mind and is driving the train
at this point is Benjamin Netanyahu.
So it's very important to pay attention
to the Israeli press, to statements from Netanyahu
and his crew of total psychos that are over there
in Israel that are driving the show,
that have their own like biblical, religious, blood feud
ideas in mind here as well.
But in any case, this was an important article
from the Financial Times because it has some reporting
about the way the Israelis are thinking about this.
It says Israel expects weak long war against Iran.
In other words, not some quick in and out.
There was some reporting that Netanyahu was concerned
that Trump may have been talking to the Iranians
through back channels and had to like check in
and make sure that there's not any possibility
that this war is going to end anytime soon.
I'm not sure that those back channels were open anyway,
Netanyahu had to check in and make sure
that the war was going to keep going.
We need war death, more destruction, more chaos,
more refugee crisis, et cetera.
In any case, an analyst told the Financial Times
summarizing the Israeli government's position, quote,
if we can have a coup, great,
if we can have people on the streets, great,
if we can have a civil war, great,
Israel could not care less about the future
or the stability of Iran.
That is a point of difference between us
and the U.S., I think, Washington is more concerned
about nation building and threats to their regional partners.
So put that together with the reporting
about the at least arming of these Kurdish factions
and trying to push them to invade
and spark some sort of a local uprising.
And you can see whose plan is in control.
Now, I don't know what these Israelis sold Trump.
I don't know what Trump is dumb enough to believe
in terms of what could be accomplished,
whether he really did buy that.
If you just take out the Ayatollah,
then they're gonna greet us as liberators
with flowers in the streets
and we're gonna have this great democratic Iran
that's going to love the United States of America
and wanna do all sorts of business deals with you.
And the Trump Tower, Tehran,
is gonna be going up any minute.
I don't know if he was actually dumb enough to believe that.
But now that he has certainly been disabused
of that notion, if he had that notion before,
well, what other plan can there possibly be?
Other than we want to collapse this entire state.
We just want chaos, we just want mayhem.
The literal quote here is,
if we can have a civil war, great.
Think of how sick that is.
Think of how destabilizing,
you're talking about a country of 90 million people.
Think about the blowback and spiral effects
that we can't even contemplate at this point.
I mean, we just have the roadmap of like a rock
and what we saw happen there,
Libya and what we saw happen there.
It's incredibly unpredictable.
When you destabilize or when your goal is
to thoroughly destabilize a country as large and as diverse
and as important for the global economy as Iran is.
And yet, you know, that's what Israel is aiming for.
And by, you know, for whatever reason
that the US has decided to go along with that plan.
So that is the actual plan that is in action now.
And to Saugher's point,
there is no way this thing is going to be quick.
We are not gonna be getting out of here anytime soon.
There's only one.
Trump would have to make the heroic decision,
the actual heroic decision of saying I fucked up
and I had with this is over.
That's it.
That's the only decision.
He could have after they assassinated the Itolla.
He could have claimed that this was some glorious victory
and they're gonna, you know, they're not gonna do a nuke.
And so we can mission accomplished.
See you later.
Let's just not talk about this again.
And you didn't take that, you know,
we didn't take that opportunity for, you know,
reasons that continue to remain somewhat shrouded in Mr.
And let's just say now that all at this point,
we're in it, you know, now Americans are dead.
Now installations, bases are hit.
Let's would be six up here on the screen.
Fighter jets falling on this guy.
Right, yeah, three fighter jets,
which have all been shot down.
At least there are some reports that are more.
Accidentally, accidentally by the Kuwaitis, apparently,
shows you the level of coordination.
This from the New York Times,
which we're showing you some of these images,
demonstrate some of the bases which have been hit.
And you can actually see the various different structures
all have which have either been wiped out.
These are very sophisticated suicide drone strikes
by the Iranians very targeted at radar systems
and communications specifically
because those are the coordinating radar
for much of the interceptors and others.
This could explain perhaps why we've seen some of the strikes
that have already happened, Iranian strikes,
inside of the Gulf countries,
because they rely on some of these communication
infrastructures and radars to be able to coordinate.
They're air defense and they say,
US military communication infrastructure highly classified,
making it difficult to determine what exact systems,
but the targeted locations seemed to indicate Iran
was aiming to disrupt the ability to communicate
and to coordinate.
And I mean, look, we've already seen problems with that.
In Kuwait, they say Iran has attacked
the military communications capacity even recently
as June, whenever it tried to hit Qatar
in multiple of these instances we saw.
And that Kuwait, or sorry, that Qatar base
is really troubling because you could see
a big impact that happened in one of those images.
And just to beat the drum on our stockpiles,
let's go to B7, please, and put this on the screen.
This is the clear sign yet.
So far, the things are not nearly as rosy
as they're trying to paint.
Defense executives are now planning to meet at the White House
as strikes on Iran diminish stockpiles.
So basically, it's like an emergency summer.
It's basically like an emergency summoning to the White House
where the White House is going to read them a riot act
and they're like, hey, you guys need to create more missiles.
And they're like, we can't because it's not just a process
which gets spun up overnight.
It actually takes years, which is why people like us
have been talking about this for years.
It's all out there.
It's public record.
They have to show this, literally,
they have to show and allocate the number of missiles
and interceptors and all these other things
that they buy in Congress.
I've gotten so much pushback, as if you know.
It's not about me knowing.
It's like they published the document.
Literally, Congress can even tell you.
That's because they have to report to them.
It's all in files.
You can go and check it for yourself if you want to.
What we see inside this report,
this summoning of these defense executives,
is that even if we try to throw the money at them,
that the timeline for production takes years,
like you could literally try to nationalize the industry.
And even with that, you could not ex the capacity enough
to be able to fulfill already what we have used
in this conflict.
So that means that we have a couple of options.
You have to use, as you were talking about dumb bombs,
it's not exactly right, but we have a large stack pile
of these JDAMs, but what we don't have
are these interceptors, these Tomahawk missiles,
or nearly as much, and the capacity to replace them
is extremely difficult and they're massively expensive.
So that means while we do have stockpiles elsewhere,
that you have to take it from there.
Well, there's already a huge shit storm in the military
because a lot of the people who are in charge
are defending the Pacific are like,
we can't give this up because if we give it up to you,
A, that leaves a super, super unreliable over here
to all of our allies, Japan, South Korea,
all of these actually massively important countries
to the United States, China, Taiwan,
all of these problems that we're having.
I was listening to a Brandon Wykert
this morning in an interview and he was speculating
that it's based on some reporting or things that he had heard
that there are Chinese and Russian intelligence
that are being shared, could explain why the Iranians
have the ability to hit some of these things.
What, I mean, can you put it out of the question?
The United States is basically doing all those strike packages
for the Ukrainians.
We're spying on the Russians and then giving the coordinates
to them.
Why do you think they wouldn't want to?
And this is great.
They get to test all of our munitions,
to plead them, see exactly how they work
and strike at our capacity.
And what are we doing all of this for?
I've seen all this 5D chess.
Oh, this is all about a message to China.
This is, what a joke.
Nonsense, right?
This is one of the best things.
The message to China that we're pathetic
and allow our service members to be blown up
in triple-wide trailers and super-taxion.
Right, and the Chinese are like,
oh, okay, they're like, this is great.
They're like, we could turn this into their Vietnam
or their Afghanistan.
Let's flood as much of this as we possibly can,
make it difficult, bog them down.
That's, there's nothing they could want more.
It's the same thing that we used to argue about in Ukraine.
They argued it was some sort of deterrence.
Nope.
If anything, it actually depleted as we,
as they already are admitting,
they are literally admitting the United States military
that we sent a huge number to Ukraine
and we don't have the capacity to backfill
some of the people in the Gulf.
And of course, we haven't even talked enough
about the hundreds of thousands,
if not one million plus Americans,
who are basically stranded all across the Middle East,
who have no way to get out.
The State Department is like, is emergency
trying to create an evacuation scenario.
Now, and now they're competing though
with the military for military aircraft
to be able to use to get them out.
There's no planned evacuation as of right now.
So we have almost a week of hostilities
that are happening and people are sheltering in place.
If they want to leave a red story about some mother
who had to take a bus for seven and a half hours
and that takes six flights to be able to get back to Chicago,
can you imagine that she's a pregnant lady?
She's sitting on a bus for seven and a half hours
from Israel to Egypt and that has to catch a flight
like the nine different places
before she can come back to Chicago.
That's one person.
She's lucky enough to be able to get out.
So think about the number of people that can
with small children or others.
It's a nightmare.
It's a total nightmare.
Yeah, absolutely.
And just to go back to that,
that article about them rushing into defense execs
and demanding that they produce more
is really extraordinary because also keep in mind,
Trump was just posting on true social about how
we are stockpiles are virtually unlimited.
We could do more forever if we want.
I mean, the man is just such an incredible liar.
And then you see the panic behind the scenes of like,
oh my god, we gotta get these guys in here
and hope that yelling at them
somehow magically creates more stockpiles.
Like it doesn't work that way.
And somehow, Trump, I think he,
because he has faced so many times
where he is, we've said it before,
he's like the luckiest man on the planet.
So often, things just the ball happens to bounce his way.
And all the critics said that Venezuela would be a disaster.
But look, I could not mature and it went fine in his view.
This was no problem whatsoever.
All of the tariffs, they said they crashed the economy.
Well, they weren't great for the economy,
but the stock market kept going up.
So he looks at that and he was like, they were wrong.
Everything was fine.
I think he just doesn't live in a reality
where anything matters.
So when he hears these generals who came in
and were like, listen, we have no answer for these drones.
These like 30 to 50 thousand dollar drones
that they can spin up like crazy
and produce mass quantities of.
We really have no answer for that.
Our stockpiles are already low.
We cannot protect all of our allies in the region.
Like our Gulf allies are also running low on interceptors.
This is a bad idea.
He just does not take that seriously
because he thinks, well, these type of experts
have said I was wrong before
and I've always proven them wrong.
I know more about this.
And by the way, my friend Netanyahu
is telling me that this is all gonna be great.
And BB here in DC all the time,
talking to Trump on the phone,
talking to other officials on the phone all the time.
And when you have someone like Netanyahu
and his government with a really clear goal
and a very clear ideology and they know what they want.
And you are working on someone who is as stupid
and easily manipulated and without any sort of grounding
principles as Trump.
That is part of why, you know, from the beginning,
I thought that this was very,
that we were very likely to end up in this place.
Not to mention the fact that in the first term,
Trump was extremely hawkish towards Iran as well,
that they in different ways tried to foment
a coup and a regime change in Iran as well in the first term.
That was why I was fairly confident
that unfortunately we would at some point end up
in this place and here we are.
It's really bad.
Let's put B9 up here on the screen just to highlight
some of the issues about a broadening conflict.
So we had actually a very troubling incident yesterday
where it appeared in Iranian missile
was actually fired at Turkey.
So at a U.S. base, which is in the country.
U.S. Navy destroyer shot down the missile.
But this was one of the first times
other than the British military base,
which was struck in Cyprus.
There are NATO allies, which are all ready.
Being ensnared.
Now, remember, I mean Turkey,
if this is a very difficult problem for them,
you've got air bases of the United States and Turkey
at the same time, the Turks have okay relations
with the Iranians.
They apparently summoned the ambassador over this strike
and there was even some report that they may have had
another one, but they're also going to be very against
any sort of Kurdish uprising, which is in the country.
But you can see how very quickly
these things can spiral out of control.
Another censorship thing I want to know
is we haven't seen video of this,
but Qatar, Kuwait, and others keep talking
about Iranian fighters, which they're able to shoot down,
which come very close to striking U.S. bases.
So that's very significant for a number of reasons of these.
So I have the ability to take off.
Let's say a couple of days into the conflict.
You would expect there'd be one of the first things to go.
And so far, the air defense systems and others
have all been able to hold up,
but it only takes one for it to create
like a serious mass casualty or crazy style of men.
Last thing on here before we move on,
we wanted to flag weird incident, be 11.
Let's put it up here on the screen.
This is from the UK media.
They are saying that a drone attack
on their base in Cyprus.
Cyprus was hit by a Shahad-like drone on Sunday,
but confirmed it was not launched from Iran.
So where was the launch from?
And they haven't been able to tell us.
So serious questions here.
Cypriot authorities said that the assault executed
was an Iranian drone, most probably deployed,
that they think from Hezbollah, from Lebanese territory.
But that shows that you've got drones
that are not just in the country,
but also being able to spread out,
let's say, either in Syria, via proxy, Hezbollah,
they could attack in Israel,
they could attack other bases, other territory.
So that's significant.
I mean, what is it?
It's hundreds of miles away from Iran,
just to show their own limited power projection.
And the Houthis haven't even gotten fully involved yet.
Do they hand their hands on these drones?
And their ability to try and go after the United States
said they were going to escort ships
in the Straits of Hormuz,
that will put them much more in the launch range
of some of these anti-ship ballistic missiles,
and also potentially some of these drones as well.
Yeah, this drone situation, there's two possibilities.
One is that it was Hezbollah,
and two is that it was a false flag from Israel,
which I don't put either one out of the question.
And both possibilities raise alarms
about the escalatory nature of what has been unleashed here,
because Iran has deployed this mosaic defense,
where because they anticipated that, you know,
there would be an attempt to decapitate the government,
they really spread decision-making out
among these different military units.
So their military commanders are authorized to sort of freelance,
like they have whatever is in their purview,
and they are allowed to make decisions
on their own independently.
They don't have to wait for some order
to come down from the top.
What does that mean?
It means you've got a bunch of military commanders
out there who are freelancing, who, you know,
perhaps are firing missiles or using drones
in ways that if you had a cohesive, like,
top-down military structure,
they may think better of because of the possible escalatory nature.
Now, I also think, I mean, based on what we're seeing
from Iran that they have calculated
that since this is an existential threat,
they also need to make the Gulf countries feel some pain,
and recognize that this is a problem for them
in the hope that they will put pressure on the U.S.
to pull out and end this war.
So I do think that is part of their strategy.
And then with regard to Israel,
they have the same incentive to broaden and spread this conflict.
They want as many countries engaged in this war as possible,
which is why I don't think it's insane to float that, you know,
you could have false, whether this was one or not,
that you could have false flag attacks.
From Israel, we talked earlier about that report from Tucker
that you had Mossad agents in Gulf countries
that were caught trying to foment terrorist attacks
or trying to commit terrorist attacks.
They're denying. They're denying, yes, there's denials all around.
But again, these are things that cannot put out of bounds
because that is the interest that the Israelis have.
They want this to broaden and spread as much as possible.
Drawing Turkey in, absolutely, they're all for that.
All the Gulf countries, they want them brought in,
they want everybody engaged in this fight
because that's what serves their interests.
And so that's why, you know, the only country
that maybe even theoretically has an interest
in not allowing this thing to spread is us.
But when you have the Iranians and the Israelis
both wanting this to escalate and spiral,
that is very likely what you're going to get.
And of course, that is already what we see, you know,
in terms of the direction of this going.
And I mean, from the US too, like we sunk this Iranian forget
that was over in the Indian Ocean,
that was not armed actually.
And we, you know, shot a torpedo at it
from a submarine, Pete Hegsitz was bragging about it.
We didn't go and try to rescue any of the sailors either,
which apparently is something even the Nazis did.
During World War II would go and rescue sailors
after they struck their boats.
But in any case, so it's not like we're really trying
to contain this thing and de-escalate it either
because that was quite far from the main theater of actually.
Yeah, actually that's the submarine thing.
He's actually kind of a political problem in India.
There's a lot of discussion around it.
I'm sure.
Because they had invited them there
for some naval exercises.
Right. So there was a naval exercise.
So in the Indian diaspora, actually,
or sorry, in the Indian discourse over there,
they're like, hey, are we going to allow this?
Like we're going to invite people over here.
We're going to talk to the United States.
They're like, yeah, it was international waters.
So we've had an escort.
These people saluted our own prime minister.
You know, they're worried about their own threat
to the prestige.
So it was literally reading some of the Indian papers
this morning.
So it's look, I mean, it's already spread.
There's a cut, you know, literally insane
to think about torpedoes being launched.
They're saying, I think the first time since World War II,
which is insane.
And yeah, I mean, the level of,
the level of how it's already spread
and impacted global gas prices,
which are already ticking up diesel prices,
actually went over $4.
I think there were some reports about California jet fuel
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that this could inflict in a matter of weeks
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It's not as if they really planned for any of it
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So the Senate voted yesterday on this war powers resolution.
We could put this up on the screen.
It failed effectively along party lines.
You had Federman voting with the Republicans,
Rand Paul voting with the Democrats,
and so it failed 47 to 53.
And I think it's noteworthy,
both that you had all the Democrats
except Federman hang together.
But more importantly, there's been a lot of talk,
and you see a lot of like mega influence,
or some number of mega influencers.
Megan Kelly, right?
Obviously, Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones are opposed to this.
You see some people like that.
The war room people are uncomfortable with what's going on.
So you see a lot of like loud voices
who are on the right, who are opposed to this war with a run.
But if you look at the polling,
the Republican base, they're largely on board with it.
It is more of an online phenomenon,
the opposition, than the reality among the Republican base,
which just says like basically,
oh, Trump is doing this, so we support it.
So I think the fact that the Republicans hung together
and did not remember,
this is not even about like authorizing war.
This is a vote to say like this power rusts with us
that even the Susan Collins of the world,
who is very likely to get her clock cleaned
by Graham Platner in the fall,
even they felt like the right political calculus
was to vote against this.
Now you have to factor into that not only the like political base,
and the fear of Trump and his eyeer,
you also have to factor into that,
the money from APAC and other,
Israel lobby types,
and the ideology too, as a great point too,
is some of these people just genuinely believe in endless war,
many of them genuinely believe in endless war.
And so that's how you end up with a situation
where even though you have some 70% of the country
that is like, no, we don't want this,
you still have every Republican Senate save for Rand Paul,
saying, we're gonna let the president do whatever he wants.
Right, and that is the scary part.
You know what's, I mean, just stick on that.
One of the things I personally hate
is people wish casting analysis.
So there's been like you just said,
there's a lot of people like,
oh, this is a screw you to the base.
And I never use those words.
You know what I say?
I say it's a screw you to the country,
because the base is always a stick with him.
I grew up in Bush country.
5,000 U.S. troops were killed, they didn't care.
Okay, they all stuck with him till the end.
He used my president.
I'd like to have a beer with him.
You remember all that said?
They said that till 09.
That's what a lot of these people were saying.
Today they would all claim that they were all against it.
Not true, I remember.
But that's the reality.
The base, they'll stick with him.
Now the rest of the country independence,
the 51% let's say you voted for.
That's a whole other story.
Those are the people who are much more on the fence.
People who are not self identified actual Republicans.
Many of them, one of the things that can explain this number
is when you start self identifying
other than as a Republican and then you disagree,
it shoots the Republican number support up for the war.
But let's not make any mistake
that all of these people are loyal to Donald Trump
into party ideology itself.
I will say in the Senate case, vote what you see
with the Susan Collins and the Mercowskis and all of them
is I do, I actually think Susan Collins
and Lisa Mercowsky, they vote against Trump all the time.
All the time, right?
And they've been able to survive.
It's very telling to me that the one thing
they won't vote against him on is Iran
because they support the operation line.
I don't think that we can adequately describe
the way that in Washington brain,
this is a justified operation
to the extent that it's gone bad.
It's because Trump hasn't done it the process way properly.
He didn't brief us properly.
He didn't brief us properly.
It's like that's all they care about.
They don't care about the fact that we're in a bad conflict,
period, end of story.
This is gonna be just like 2004,
the war Democrats, they're already emerging
and we're seeing some of this.
And yes, just like 2003,
there are only extremely limited,
extremely, like count on one hand,
the level, the type of people who will speak out
either against party or against ideology
to say this is ridiculous.
One of them is Congressman Thomas Massey.
Here he is, let's take a listen.
As to why we launched this preemptive war,
the president says we had to strike first
because an Iranian strike was imminent.
Meanwhile, the Department of Defense
conceded there was no evidence of an imminent Iranian strike.
Some told us this war was about nuclear weapons,
but six months ago we were assured our last strike
on Iran decimated their nuclear program.
So which is it?
I think the most candid answer
came from the Secretary of State
who told the press that Israel forced our hand
and dragged us into this war.
There is Congressman Thomas Massey.
He's gonna be one of the very few Republicans
if at all who end up voting against it.
And look, this is a valiant effort
from Congressman Massey and from Rokana,
others Tim Cain who forced the war powers act vote.
But look, now let it all be on record.
It's out there now.
We can hold these people at the very least count.
You did not even want to vote for the ability to vote.
Whether this is something that you have an interest in.
Okay, we got you.
We hear you loud and clear.
What's gonna come next is this supplemental funding though.
That's the big issue.
Well, and that is the purpose of these votes.
I mean, they're not even, let's imagine a world
where they actually did pass the war powers resolution.
It's not like we really think
that that would constrain Trump.
What this is about is putting people on the record
for history so that forever it is marked down
in the history books.
Who did what when?
Because again, you're gonna have so many people
after the fact when this thing,
I mean, it's already gone, Pat.
I don't know how many I was supporting it already.
But when it is an undeniable complete catastrophe
and Americans reject it overwhelmingly
in a way that is again undeniable,
you're gonna have all kinds of people
pretending they opposed it from the jump.
So at least for these politicians,
we can get them on the record.
Where did you stand?
What did you do at the beginning?
Did you even have the guts to claim the power
for Congress to weigh in on this thing?
Or did you just say, yes, sir, Mr. President,
whatever mayhem and madness you wanna do,
go ahead and go for it.
So let's go and put C3 up on the screen
because to Cyrus Point, the next battle is over.
Munding.
Now have you heard anyone in the media say,
how will you pay for it?
How will you pay for it?
The roughly billion probably more dollars a day
that are being spent currently.
The $50 billion reported supplemental funding
that they're going to ask Congress for.
This is Mike Johnson's because the House's Congress
will pass Iran war funding when appropriate.
So $50 billion more.
What else could that $50 billion be spent on?
Do you have any ideas in your head,
maybe health care, maybe housing, maybe education,
maybe infrastructure, maybe jobs, all kinds of things
that could be done with this $50 billion
rather than killing little girls in Iran
or risking our service members lives in the Middle East.
Seems like the American taxpayers
probably have some better ideas
of how they would like these funds to be spent.
And yet, from the quote unquote opposition party,
you can put this up on the screen.
Politico reached out to a bunch of senators
on the Democratic side to say, hey,
you have expressed some concerns about this war
and all of the Democrats save for federalmen
have expressed those concerns
and all of them save for federalmen voted
or the war powers resolution.
What about this supplemental funding?
Schumer, before you can feel satisfied
about a supplemental and I haven't seen it,
you have to know what the real goals are
and what the end game is.
You see there, he's not ruling it out.
He's saying, oh, we just need more information.
We need a better briefing.
Again, process concern, not opposition.
Delaware Senator Chris Coons,
who absolutely sucks all the time,
a senior Democratic appropriator says he expects
the Pentagon will send Congress
a supplemental funding request and vowed to quote,
make sure we are making all the investments we can
to keep US troops safe.
Coons said the Trump administration
needs to testify at an open hearing.
So American people can get questions answered
about the failures and planning that led to the sum
of the challenges, losses and mistakes in this war.
So again, process, they need to speak to the American people,
but ultimately he's gonna fund it
is bottom line what he's saying there.
Our friend Alyssa Sluckin, she said,
I don't rule anything out, comma, I mean, we're in it.
Tim Cain also said something so even though he's been great
on leading the push for this war power's resolution,
but when it comes to funding the war,
that you claim to oppose, you're open to voting
for the funding of the war.
I mean, this makes no sense.
If you oppose the war, you oppose funding the war.
It is that simple.
And so the amount of capitulation,
the amount of frankly ideological support
from the Democratic Party is insane.
They are so disconnected from the base of the party.
And so with their vote on the war power's resolution,
the fact that they stayed lockstep except for John Fetterman,
that is a proof of how strongly, adamantly,
the base is opposed to this thing
and not just from a Uden brief us concerned,
but outright directly opposed to this thing.
They knew they could not vote against this war power's
resolution because there would be hell to pay from the base.
You saw Mark Kelly say, like,
I don't know how I'm going to vote on this thing.
And I guarantee you he got slammed with phone calls.
And next thing you know, guess how he voted.
He voted for it.
So they are under tremendous pressure from the base.
And yet they think they can get away
with voting to fund this thing.
It is absolutely insane to me.
Well, you know, trip down memory lane,
back in 07, Nancy Pelosi, you might remember this,
where she tried to fund the Iraq,
because it was right after the 2006 victory for the midterms.
Pelosi was negotiating funding with the Bush administration.
And what she did is she put a withdrawal timeline
on the funding for the administration.
But even that was something that many of the progressive
Democrats who were inside at the time who were saying,
what they were saying is like, no,
you need a much faster withdrawal timeline
because they didn't want to support the surge.
Bush ended up vetoing it and they did eventually win
that entire funding battle,
which of course kept American forces in Iraq.
What they wanted to do was they wanted to fulfill their claim
that they had, right?
Was basically we ran on ending the war in Iraq.
And the president now wants to surge troops in Iraq.
We cannot then continue to fund what we ran against.
But the moderate leaders in the Democratic Party,
so-called, like Nancy Pelosi and others,
who became the speaker, said, no, no, no,
we can't do this because we have to play ball
with the Bush administration.
And so what they ended up doing actually was kind of knifeing
what had happened and continuing to fund that
not to mention what happened with Barack Obama.
You're watching the exact same thing now play out
is you can't say, especially in this case,
Iraq was a whole other story, right?
Because we had our troops on the ground, et cetera,
like obviously many Democrats had voted for it.
In this case, if you're gonna be against it,
then how can you continue to fund it?
It's ridiculous, right?
If you're saying that the best possible thing
would be to force the administration's hand
by saying, no, you can't have more money
to continue operations.
You need to figure out some sort of diplomatic solution.
That is the best way to go about it.
But the failed to do that under Bush.
They also failed to do it multiple times under Obama.
This is how the bipartisan consensus keeps going.
And the more that the money is flowed,
that's the only thing that allows the administration
to continue to operate.
That's the disaster I think that we're seeing in all of this.
So we have no war powers.
I mean, Glenn made this point, I thought it was so good,
is that when the framers put together
this idea of the Constitution,
they actually theorize that the co-equal branches
of government would fight as hard as they possibly could
for maintaining their own institutional power
within the system.
And they actually never could have imagined
that you would have an entire branch
that would just hold up its hand and surrender
to what was going on in the White House.
And this is a political culture now,
which has been normalized over the last 25 years
from Bush onward because, and I wanna make this the most,
because they do not want to bear the political consequences
of their actions.
Even the Democrats, like you're saying,
Mark Kelly, you know, the vote for the war power's resolution.
But the real fight is gonna be on funding.
The real fight is gonna be on how you're actually working
to make sure that this doesn't continue to happen.
They're happy to take the vote to tell the base
they didn't vote for it,
but are you actually gonna do everything to keep it away?
No.
And then same with many of the so-called anti-war Republicans.
I mean, Josh Hawley, some of these other guys,
they all voted for this.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
It's, I mean, this is the most consequential war vote
you will ever take as a member of Congress,
at least so far, in your entire term.
And you're like, no, actually,
not only does the president have the ability,
we don't even have the ability to weigh in.
It's ludicrous.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, the only Republican voted against it was
Rand Paul, right.
And then in the House, you've got Thomas Massey,
and we'll see if there are any others who join him,
whatsoever.
I wanted to show this as well.
This is a Marine, retired Marine,
who protested in a congressional hearing.
And let's put this up on the screen, guys.
This is C5.
And you can see him being wrestled out.
That guy in the suit, that is a freaking senator, Shihi.
And in the process of doing this and trying to remove this man,
who, I don't know if you heard what he just said there,
he said, nobody wants to die for Israel.
I think that's a pretty salient point.
In any case, they broke this man's arm,
including this senator who's, for some reason,
gets involved here with the police trying
to remove this retired Marine.
I mean, just wild, to see that whole scene play out,
and man.
Mine's being my child.
That's what it was.
Absolutely.
I mean, a retired Marine, having his arm broken,
because he says, nobody wants to die for Israel.
Pull the country.
Ask them, do people want to die for Israel?
Is that because that's what Marco Rubio tells you
is going on here.
He said a plane that that's what's actually happening here
right now.
I think that is not the entire truth.
But there's no doubt that the people who have been the most
relentless in pushing for this are all of the most
hardest core Zionists in this country.
And obviously, the Israeli government themselves.
Do you remember Tim Shade?
Do you remember the little factoid about him?
Is he the one that got in the fight with that reporter?
He's the one who, with Megan Kelly,
got into that whole dispute about the circumstances
in which he was shot.
Oh, in the National Park.
Oh, my God.
Yes, that's the guy.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah, the bizarre story.
The whole sense was very, very strange.
Where a national park ranger was like, he shot himself
and he claimed he got shot.
And anyway, they're still just saying the bottom line is he
shot himself and then lied about it is the TLTR
of how that went down.
That seems to be the evidence as to where things currently
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