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Fresh off his first PGA Tour win at the Genesis Invitational, Jacob Bridgeman sat down with Smylie Kaufman and Charlie Hulme to break down the week that changed his career.
Topics Covered
• Bridgeman’s breakthrough win at Riviera
• Playing Sunday with Rory McIlroy
• Tiger Woods reacting to his ball-striking
• Surviving pressure on the back nine
• The new wave of young American PGA Tour stars
• Growing up in South Carolina with Masters dreams
• "Short-Sided" lightning round
Jacob dives into the surreal experience of winning at Riviera, the messages that flooded his phone after the victory, and the confidence he felt holding a six-shot lead on Sunday. He shares stories from the final round playing alongside Rory McIlroy, how a mud ball nearly derailed his finish, and the incredible moment of shaking Tiger Woods’ hand after the win.
The conversation also explores Bridgeman’s rise through the Korn Ferry Tour, the impact of his veteran caddie, and the growing crop of young American stars on the PGA Tour.
Jacob discusses his unique ten-finger grip, the swing work that transformed his iron play, and the putting routine that has made him one of the best on tour. Plus, the episode wraps with Charlie’s lightning-round "Short-Sided" segment.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 — Jacob Bridgeman joins TSS
02:46 — Riviera prep & first impressions
06:55 — Ball-striking clinic & Tiger Woods’ reaction
09:06 — Holding the lead Sunday with Rory McIlroy
20:48 — The caddie who believed in him
25:50 — Young American stars on Tour
29:45 — Augusta National & Masters dreams
33:14 — Ten-finger grip, swing changes & elite putting routine
41:18 — Short-Sided with Charlie
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All right, guys.
We'd like to welcome in the most recent winner on the PGA tour and doing it in fashion,
signature event, Riviera, Jacob Bridgeman.
Congratulations.
I imagine your first PGA tour win doing it at a place like that had to be quite incredible.
It's only been a couple of days since the win.
I imagine you've gotten a lot of great texts, but probably no greater texts than the PGA
tour.
Text of how much cash you just made that last week.
I mean, just insane, right?
Yeah, I honestly had no idea what the winning portion was.
I thought it was like all the other ones that was 3.6.
I was pretty shocked.
I didn't see the text until the next day.
And I actually had a search for it because I had like 1,050 texts or so.
Oh my gosh.
I had to be so fun to get that text.
I would have it on wild on my phone.
And just hopefully I can change my ringer to the cash symbol, just the entire time just
waiting for that to come through.
But what about some other text messages that you've received from people that you've
had to scroll through these 1,000 texts that have been pretty cool?
Yeah, I've probably made it through maybe a third of them so far.
Like this week, I wanted to just chill and take some time off.
But I became close with Kyle Lowry recently.
I played a problem with him last year and then saw him in a waste management and went
to the game.
He sent me a nice text during the round and then no one after the round, talking about
how stressed he was and all this stuff.
And I met Kyle Raleigh at a waste management.
He sent me a nice text.
Wow.
I think he sent me a Mariners bat in the mail, which is pretty cool.
Yeah.
Oh, that's so cool.
I know you grew up playing baseball, so getting a bat from one of the best players in the
league right now.
I mean, how cool is that?
I think his nickname is Big Dumber, as long as we play the problem with him and everyone's
yellow and Big Dumber.
Big Dumber.
It's just the funniest nickname of all time.
Any other Clemson text?
Let me think.
I know I got them.
You saw the message from Trevor Lawrence and Dabo.
I would travel too.
That's pretty cool.
Okay.
Yeah, I haven't made it far enough to check them out.
But it's been, yes, I've seen quite a bit of the invites to collab on Instagram.
There's been like 50 of those sort through those, see which ones I want to show on my page.
But yeah, it's been quite the few days.
It's a lot of great problems to have.
You know, winning on the PGA tour, it comes with fame, dealing with a lot of text, but
also what's kind of dive into the week of Riviera?
So you've obviously got off to a great start this 2026 season.
I think if you would have looked at it, you could have seen Jacob Bridgman having a breakout
week at Riviera.
But did you feel that way coming into the week?
No, not really.
At Pebble, I felt like, I think I said this in one of my interviews.
I felt like I faked it the whole week.
The first day I played great and everything felt good.
But over the course of the week, I'd hit so many shots in the win where I was just taking
the club back about halfway and chipping them.
And then when I had to step up and hit a driver, I had no idea where the ball was going.
So like at spyglass, I think I hit maybe three or four fairways and shot seven under
just because the rough was nothing.
And it honestly was better to miss in the rough because the greens were so soft.
I could just hit and plug it.
And my putter was just acting the way it was supposed to.
I guess most of the offers would say it wasn't doing anything wrong.
It was making a lot of putt.
So I somehow got myself in contention that week and driver, I would say, a little bit
let me down, coming down the stretch, but not anything crazy.
But I didn't expect to hit it the way I did at RIV the following week, especially since
I didn't do really that much prep on the range.
I was just kind of worn out.
I wanted to rest.
Right.
I had maybe an hour and a half with Scott Hamilton to just kind of work through things
and reset.
You'll find anything?
Yeah, I think the main thing was I was getting so short and tight in my swing from hitting
little punch shots that we just needed to widen and slow down the rhythm.
Wow.
And it was like an instant click, I guess, I hit it okay in the pro am and then Thursday
through Sunday.
I just striped it.
Was that the first time you've ever stepped foot on property at Riviera?
So what was your first impressions going around a golf course like this and I'm sure you
watched on TV plenty of times, but it's a place that did it fit your eye.
You know, when you got out there, did it seem like a place that you could go out and
do what you did?
Yeah.
It was a full rain out Monday, rain like three inches.
I think they're only get 12 a year.
So that was like a fourth of the, you're like, all right, same thing as last week, I'm
be having to deal with spin control.
Yeah, it was crazy.
And I think that was a blessing in the skies, all the rain that we got because it softened
up the course.
And I don't know, I haven't played the firm Riviera yet, but it makes me think that you
need a little more experience to have success there knowing all the slopes, knowing how
the ball is going to react and some bad spots.
But the way it was played so soft, I mean, you could hit it short side and just hit a normal
chip and it would just hit and stop.
So I think that helped me out a bit, especially early in the week when I had to try and learn
the place.
I hit it in a few bad spots and I was able to get out of it.
Anything at 10?
I was probably the first person to ever get up and down short of the bunker for the right
pin on 10.
No, you didn't.
Yeah.
I mean, that is stupid.
You can't miss right at the 10th old Riviera, especially short, right?
I mean, it was just a straight up in the air flopper.
Do you hit it with a bunch of spin, sitting on top of it, they get cuckoo, you're rough.
Yeah.
So I was thinking, you know, I've seen this course a million times and I'm like, this
is the worst bite you can possibly been.
I'm going to hit it in the back bunker, you know?
So I just tried to hit it as high as I possibly could and it landed probably three feet over
the bunker and plugged.
And I was like, wow, you couldn't have rolled out at least three feet.
Okay.
That's not the 10th old Riviera.
That's an imposter.
Yeah.
That's not supposed to happen.
But great up and down.
Yeah.
That one was sweet.
And then I chipped a nine iron out from under a tree.
I think my head was like in the tree.
What hole?
Yeah.
Same hole.
It was a lot.
I went down the hole.
Okay.
And I tried to lay it up like 15 feet right.
Yeah.
Gdub kept telling me this thing goes further left and you think it goes further left me
that.
I was like, all right, man, whatever.
I got it, you know?
And I hit it and it, I was trying to hit a 15 feet right and it went to three feet.
So that kind of worked out nice in my favor.
But overall, yeah, I loved the course.
I really enjoyed getting to know it kind of as a week went on.
Thursday felt like my first real practice round because Wednesday was going so fast.
We're entertaining.
You know, play an 18-year-old pro.
I'm kind of grueling Thursday.
I got to know it and figured out where I didn't need to hit it.
And then yeah, Friday Saturday, Sunday, I just hit it so good.
It didn't really matter.
Gosh.
Saturday, man.
That ball striking clinic that you put on on Saturday.
Have you ever had a ball striking round like that where you've hit it that good?
Not that good.
I think my perspective has probably changed now because I expect a little bit better.
But the only thing I could compare it to is I can college right after COVID.
We were all itching to play.
We hadn't played it off for like a year.
And we played down in a course in Panama City, remember the name of it, but Florida State
hosted.
Oh, water sounds.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's right.
Whatever the course was called.
I think Davis Loves got it.
It might be the one that he did down there.
Okay.
Very challenging.
And I was for whatever reason, just hitting it perfect.
And I made one bogey in 54 holes.
It was a three putt.
I was furious.
Because I miss your great father too.
I miss red it like five feet to the right and then miss the five footer.
And that was only bogey of the week.
I hit it everywhere.
I was looking at one by like eight or nine or something.
It was perfect execution.
Yeah.
Like that until this past week was like my best term at ever.
I mean, you gained six shots approach on Saturday.
And I think the best part about it was that Tiger Woods was in the booth watching it.
Did you happen to see the clips of Tiger reacting to some of those shots that you hit?
The one that comes in mind was, I believe, was it a seven one?
Do you hit into the 11 pole at part five?
And he's like, yeah, I can't do that.
It's like, I mean, how cool is it to have Tiger Woods say that, right?
Yeah.
I mean, the guy that I've grown up washing my whole Chris pretty much from, you know,
when I was born, I was born December of 99.
That was when he was in his peak.
And from my youngest memories, I was watching Tiger win majors on TV.
Even I both, my idol growing up, you know, the best player to ever do it.
And I saw a couple clips.
I think I have the coverage record.
I might go back and watch the hour he was sitting in the booth just to see kind of some
of the other ones and see a little bit more of what he says.
But that that shot on 11 was crazy.
Okay, see, you finish, finish the night on Saturday.
Well, how many stroke lead do you have going into Sunday?
Six.
Six stroke lead.
That kind of is a nightmare, right?
Right.
Because all you can think about is just getting to the finish line and getting to the
tee time, you're playing with worry McRoy.
How are you able to get into the proper mindset to set goals to where you don't get ahead
of yourself?
Because I imagine it's so easy to think about getting to the 18th hole with a six shot
lead, a stress free day, walking up to the, to the top of the hill, greeted with a nice
iced tea and lemonade shaking or a tight, not Arnold Palmer's entire woods and hands.
I mean, I imagine you're thinking about that all night, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I definitely imagine kind of what I thought what the day would look like.
And I've never been one that's kind of shy away from people always say, oh, don't
imagine holding the trophy or don't, whatever until the term it's over.
And I've always been one that not shy away from it.
I'm going to think about it.
I'm going to dream about those things.
I always look at the scoreboards.
I want to know exactly what, you know, the lead award says.
And so I imagine kind of what I thought it was going to be.
And you know, I said, it's not going to be easy tomorrow.
It's, it's going to be challenging.
I know something bad is going to happen.
I just don't know what's going to happen yet.
And but how do you prepare yourself for that?
I don't think you really can, but you just have to be okay with, you know, when that thing
happens, not letting it boil over into something else.
And I think I imagine my day ending with a four shot lead going up 18 instead of one.
But you know, I was super calm kind of the whole day until right at the end, but kind
of the thing that kept playing in my mind was me, my wife and I before like we, she didn't
really want to talk about it.
I think she was scared of mentioning it.
And the thing that kept coming up is like, the story's already written.
I just got to do my best and see what the story is, you know, so that was kind of my thing.
I'm like, this, whatever's going to happen is already decided.
And I've just got to go and play the way that I know how and, you know, see what that
story is.
It's surprising me too.
So I would have wished that it was a little bit more of a smooth finish, but I mean,
I was super calm all day.
I felt like things just weren't really going my way from a scoring sense.
But from the rest of the field, things were going my way.
Like guys were missing puts, guys were making moves until late.
So I think Kurt helped me a lot by not making some of the short putts that he missed.
And then Rory played amazing and just didn't get the pust of fall.
They were just bouncing out.
He was hitting awesome putts.
So a couple of those things went my way more than that overshadowed the ones that didn't
get my way from my putts and stuff like that.
But that was, I guess the only thing I was shocked by was everything was smooth sailing.
I got to number 11 and I hit a drive perfect and I get up there and there's mud on the front
right of my ball.
And it's just one of those where you can't control one of those.
You know it's going left like hard and back right pen, can't miss it right.
You know, I'm like, like I can't aim this right of the hole if it goes straight.
You know, I'm going to kick myself and I ended up the hole and flushed it and it went
50 yards left.
Oh gosh.
It's the first time you start to spin a little bit.
That was the first time I like pretty much all week or something had really gone not
according plan, which is a crazy to say.
But even though at that point, like nothing, I wasn't scrambling at all in my head.
I was still leading by time and I was playing great golf.
So I kind of just took it for what it was and then the next soul, Rory hit a bad drive
and hacked it out in the front bunker and made a 50 yard bunker shot.
I mean, how good was that?
It was incredible.
I mean, it was up under the lip.
Greens are soft.
You got a flat all the way there.
He flew it six feet short.
He kind of just hopped, checked a little bit and rolled right in the cup and it was the
perfect shot ever.
It's so good.
Right?
Yeah.
I don't, I need to ask him maybe next time I see him, how you hit that because I have no
idea.
Oh, shit.
It's an idea.
Just silly.
And how much did it help you to play with Rory McRoy at the BMW Championship the year prior?
When you're in another big time situation where you're trying to make the tour championship
and you need a good run on Sunday just to confirm it, to do it alongside him that day.
Did that give you a little bit of just confidence heading into today that you've stood and played
with one of the games best players?
Yeah, I definitely.
I would say that day I was more nervous overall than I was so much on the line.
I was at Riviera.
So I'm trying to make the tour championship my first year with the chance to do that.
And I'm playing along Rory with thousands of people watching.
But what I didn't prepare for was that the fans didn't care what I was doing, which
was a blessing.
He was making birdies, whatever they were cheering.
And then when they got, when he got done, they were just moving on.
They didn't even care what I was doing.
So I hadn't really no eyes, only no pressure.
And I ended up playing fine, playing, you know, getting through and securing my spot.
But I think that gave me kind of a preview of what it is like with Rory.
He was great to me, super nice kind of comforting at times, which I didn't really expect, but
I appreciate it a lot.
And then after the bunker shot, he'd be like, all right, game on.
Honestly, I've been so confident over the putter that week that I was going to, there
was probably four or five times that day where I got over putt and I, in my mind, knew
that the putt was going in and they didn't go in.
And that's really weird because normally that those equal birdies.
And for whatever reason, that whole, I was like, I know I'm making this putt.
And he made it.
So I came over, gave him a high five and I'm like, ah, whatever, I'm going to make this
putt too.
That's a great putt.
And it bumped out at the end.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's something I didn't see.
I want to ask you about Polana greens too because anybody listening now knows he had
a good little Southern draw on you.
I would have guessed your first PGA tour win would have been on some nice bent or some
nice permuta.
But you won on Polana.
And of course, your great putters travel everywhere.
You could probably get on any surface.
But Polana, you know, is something that maybe you've not been growing up with or familiar
with, but still had, you know, just an incredible week on it.
Is it something you've always been able to putt well on?
So I think my first experience with Polana was the sunny Hannah amateur back in college.
And I had no idea what to do.
The greens were crazy there anyway.
And then my probably next one, I guess, would have been Oakmont and the USM.
And I think those greens were so fast and pure that it didn't really matter.
So I don't have to turn pro.
I went to the West Coast and started playing on Polana greens and had no idea what to do.
I mean, I putted horrible at try at the farmers insurance, played there twice, finished
like 78th and missed the cut, hated it, you know, said I'm not going back, skipped it
this year.
And then I went to Pebble and I'm on the putting green asking guys, hey, what are, what are
you going to do?
Like what do you do differently on these greens?
And everyone said nothing.
So you got to know it.
And I'm like, I don't know answer.
Nobody helps.
I got no answers.
I'm like, I don't, I know that I'm a good putter.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I can't figure these things out.
So I finally went and talked to the table made guys.
I was about to switch putters and get more loft because I thought maybe that was the answer.
So we did some testing and realized that my ball launches kind of perfectly for Polana.
And I just didn't know.
And I think it was more of a mental thing for me that I would miss a couple of putts
and see the bounces and not like it because I've always been one that I want to make
the putt.
I don't want to be at the liberty of the bounces on the green.
So I think it was more of a mindset of understanding not every putts going to go in, but some might
bump in and just rolling with it.
And I put it great at that pebble and put it in the kitchen, right?
Just like that back your mind.
It's like, I know this is the right putter.
And my ball is rolling great.
And I am a good putter.
And I needed that.
I needed that confirmation because I thought everything was wrong.
I thought I was the worst ever and I just needed a little bit of confidence, I think.
And Charlie is going to join us later in this interview for some questions.
I also think that Charlie almost washed you the golf tournament.
And I say that because when you hit the green at the 18th hole, he said, congratulations
to Jacob Richmond.
And I said, oh boy, that could have been the kiss of death.
And when you left that putt about three and a half, four feet short, I said, oh boy,
we got ourselves an interesting situation developing.
Did it feel that way in your hands?
And in your mind, approaching that putt on the last hole, when you stood over it, did
you know you were going to make it?
So I think we got to go back to 16.
I had a five footer for Bogey.
That was a big one.
And that was the first moment of the day where I was nervous.
And I'm sitting over that putt and that was when my hands started to feel a little bit
weird.
I got you as a golfer, you know, you got this feel, you know exactly how hard to hit the
putt.
And I didn't know.
And I just hit it and it went in and I'm like, all right, cool, got it.
And then the next hole, fine, you know, I felt good with full swings.
And then I got over the putt, like maybe a 18-20 footer and I had no idea how hard to
hit it.
And I left it way short.
My hands felt like noodles.
And I was just like, I don't know what to do and just hit it and same kind of thing left
it way short, knocked the next one in.
And then we got to 18, you know, I was fully expecting to be about 40 feet short because
it was in between a seven and a six iron, was not going to hit like a little soft cut
in there.
So we went ahead and smashed the seven and it ended up going way further than we thought.
But I get up there and I'm like, oh, this, you know, this is 20 footer.
This is easy.
This is the best case scenario ever.
I can two putt straight up the hill, turn it over, go tap it in.
I can mark it at, you know, four inches and then Rory makes it.
Did that defect you at all?
Like did it almost kind of settle you a little bit?
No, but I think it got the crowd going and I'll tell you what.
He makes the putt, they go nuts.
I try to talk to G-Dub.
They're still going nuts.
No, he can't hear anything.
I'm like, hey, come over here.
And he comes over to check it out.
He goes, bro, this is dead straight, dead straight putt, knocking in.
And same kind of thing happens.
Not too aggressive.
Yeah.
The only thing going through my mind is like, don't hit it past the hole because downhill
and pose a nightmare.
And so when I get over the putt, I'm like, oh, I got this.
Take the price jokes great.
Get over it.
No idea what to do.
Full, full, like full panic in my head.
I'm like, all right.
And I just hit it and noodle hands again.
That's not true.
And right when I hit it, it was obviously short.
Everyone knew it.
And the crowd starts going, ooh, you know, like they're rooting for Rory.
They just saw him make a 30 footer to maybe tie the turn of it.
And they all kind of start, ooh, and at me.
And I think that kind of kicked me in the butt a little bit.
You know, I heard that.
And I'm like, all right, I'm about to show these guys.
So I just walked up, marked it, went through my routine as normal.
And from there on, I was confident.
I think for whatever reason that snapped me out of that freak out mode.
And I was like, these people don't think I'm going to make it.
I'm going to knock it in bed center.
And it was easy.
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Did Tiger surprise you at the top of the hill?
Was that like something that you almost forgot about
that you got to shake his hand at the top?
I was thinking about it during the day.
Because a whole day, it sounds weird.
I knew I was going to win.
I just didn't know how.
And a whole day, I'm like, oh, this is going to be great.
It's going to be just like Jack Knuckles's event.
You walk off the green shake the hand.
And I finish and I'm like, oh, Tiger's not here.
Maybe he'll just give me the trophy or something.
And then I'm just head down, walking up the stairs,
trying to process what's going on.
And I look up and he's like from me to you.
I'm like, oh, Tiger Woods, what do I say?
And I have no idea what I still don't know what I said to him.
All I think I remember is him saying, go get your card signed.
And I was like, oh, I forgot about that.
Yes, that's important.
Make sure that I officially win this golf tournament.
Yeah.
So I don't know what I said to him.
Maybe he would have an answer, but it was, yeah, complete blur.
Yeah, I want to talk about your relationship with your caddy G.
Dub.
Getting an experienced caddy like him who spent many years
caddy for Steve Marino on the PJ tour for all of his big time
play on the PJ tour.
And he's got a ton of experience seeing plenty of different golf
course being in a bunch of different situations.
But G. Dub also made an investment in you.
When you got to the corn fairy tour finishing second
on the PJ tour, you know, it's not easy for an experienced veteran
caddy to come back to the corn fairy tours.
They don't want to go back to the corn fairy.
And why would they?
The difference in pay and just the chance
that, hey, what if Jacob doesn't make it through corn fairy tour
in his first year, then it's like back to square one.
Just talk about it.
Y'all's relationship in him committing to you in a time in which,
you know, he's kind of rolling the dice a little bit.
Yeah.
So I think he knew nothing of me when I turned pro.
Obviously when you're tour caddy, you're not worried about the college
kids.
And when I got out, I was kind of looking around for caddy
and asked my agent, Jimmy, who we thought I should have.
And I told him what I wanted.
And he's like, hey, man, I think it's very important for you
to have an experienced caddy.
Because we bounce around the idea of me bringing a guy
from my team.
And he's like, I think it's important for you
to get an experienced caddy, especially early in a career.
And we're going to be playing some tour events.
And this son Gray and I do a good job.
Gray did fine, but Gray knew he wasn't in there for long.
I love Gray and I love Gray.
Yeah, yeah, he, we finished fifth my first week together.
But yeah, GDub, he came out blindly and flew to Maine
and met me there and caddy formed me in my first corn
ferry, and I didn't play very well.
I think I finished 60th or something.
And for whatever reason, he's like, hey, man,
let's do it again.
And I think after that summer, we played a couple tour events
and I made some cuts.
And I didn't play very, I hit it very poorly off the tee.
I wasn't that good at the time.
And for whatever reason, he told me in the year,
he's like, hey, man, you're going to be really good at this
for a long time.
And like, we're going to do this together.
And let's get, you know, get ready,
because next year is going to be awesome.
And I think that little bit of his experience
on the bag with so many good players,
he's cadding a presence cup.
He's cadding all the majors.
He's one at the highest level.
So having that little bit of reassurance in my early career
was huge for me, knowing that he believes in me
and has seen everything and knows that I can do it.
It didn't make me want to work any harder, like any less hard,
but it just made me feel confident.
And him coming back to the corn failure,
I mean, he's taking up, if you think about it,
the average personal tour is probably nine million.
And the average on the corn failure is one million.
So he's taken 10% of his regular payment.
So he came down, no one he wasn't going to make any money
for a year and kind of took a gamble on me.
And that meant a lot to me.
And then we became such good friends
over the course of that year on the corn failure.
And I think he was, I wouldn't say he was relieved at all
when I got my card.
I think he was just genuinely pumped for me and for himself.
And when we got to the tour,
we had the same kind of conversation.
He's like, hey man, you got your tour card,
but this is not like this isn't it?
You're going to be amazing at this game.
And it gave me just another boost of confidence.
And it took us a year to kind of get going on tour
and get our feet wet.
But after that, I felt, started to feel comfortable.
And you know, him alongside me leading the way,
showing me where the range was on which course I had no idea.
You know, I'm calling him, hey, I'm pulling in,
show me where the locker room is.
That's right, where's the registration will be?
Where did I get my yard book?
I get it.
It's speaking to good friends for the corn failure tour.
Chris Gotter up, is that I assume y'all's relationship
kind of developed a little bit on the corn failure tour?
Obviously he's gotten off to a great start in 2026
winning a couple of times, Sony and Phoenix.
Chris said that when y'all got y'all's cards
at the very end of the ceremony,
said he sprayed champagne in your eye.
Is that true?
Yeah.
So we're standing down there doing the card ceremony
and someone hands him a bottle first.
And about five seconds later, they hand me a bottle.
So he's already got, he's already got the break wrapper off
and he pops it.
And before I can, I think right when mine popped,
it hit me in the eyeball.
And I just completely pant, I just froze.
And mine just kind of dribbling out the top.
And this is spraying me in the face.
So all the pictures I have of that,
the cards ceremony, my eyes are bloodshot really.
It's like a bride waiting for their big day.
And unfortunately, the pictures didn't quite turn out
like she would hope.
Not the best closing ceremonies
or ending ceremonies of corn failure tour for you.
But still, it's cool to see this young crop
of Americans that are coming up, you know what?
You think about different crops that have come through,
like J.T. Jordan, Patrick Rogers, that whole group.
And then there was the next wave.
It was Kalamore, Kalov, Victor Hovelin, Matthew Wolf.
And it seems like we're kind of entering
a new, young American phase here,
where you have yourself, Chris Gotterup.
You have Okshay Batia, Ben Griffin.
You have, I got some other guys written down to Ryan Gerard,
Pearson Coody, all guys kind of in their mid 20s
that are playing really well in the PJ tour.
For you, you know, guy like Chris,
seeing him win early this season
and really Pearson, how much success he's had.
And of course, you played well.
Did it motivate you all to see, you know,
I know I can beat Chris.
And he's already won twice this year.
Did it motivate you to win, you know,
and coming up early in this season?
I think so.
We stay together quite a bit.
We've been roomies ever since we turned pro.
So I've kind of been,
I think I've been at all of his wins,
except for Myrtle Beach.
I teed off at 7 a.m. that day
and ended up leaving before even teed off.
So I wasn't there for that one.
But I've been at all the other three
and, you know, he's an amazing player.
I don't think he was shocked at all
that he's won multiple times on tour
and neither am I.
And I don't think anyone is.
You know, he's incredibly talented
and he's just fearless in the moment.
And that's why he's kind of captured
so many wins here early.
But yeah, playing alongside him,
I know him can beat him in any day
and he knows the same thing.
But yeah, I would be lying if I didn't say,
you know, after his last win, I'm like,
man, when am I gonna win?
Yeah.
Sure.
We're buddies.
Especially how we won.
Yeah, we see each other as equals
and when am I gonna win?
And, you know, I couldn't be happier for him.
We were there at waste management,
washing it to the very end and so pumped up.
And, you know, I'm saying,
congrats to you, man.
And then we stand together at Pebble
and, you know, he comes over to me.
He's like, I think you're gonna win soon, you know?
And...
Did you feel that way when he was 700 through seven holes
to start that?
You're like, well, maybe next week.
Yeah, I thought he was going back to back.
I'm like, this guy is on an insane heater.
Yeah, he's just been, he's been amazing to me.
He, I got like that.
This one had some success in the last little bit
could definitely let it go to his head
and he hasn't.
He's been the same Chris that he's always been.
And we've had such a great time together
and, you know, him welcoming me home into his home, you know,
after the win was, it was amazing.
And then just kind of cracking jokes
the whole week has been awesome, so.
Well, I know Jimmy Johnson, your agent
also represents Brandt Sennacher.
Of course, is the president's cup captain
this year in Chicago in Medina.
I'm sure that's something that's gonna have to be on your radar.
You're leading the FedEx cup points list right now.
Of course, Chris got up winning a couple of times too.
I mean, is that a potential pairing we're looking at
if you were to make that team?
I mean, how much would you enjoy wearing the red, white,
and blue and having Chris got up as a teammate?
Oh, I mean, that would, that would be a dream come true.
I've, I haven't done anything of that magnitude,
but I played, you know, on the junior,
junior all those British presidents cup teams
and all the Palmer teams and,
and there's nothing more special
than representing the United States.
I think wearing, wearing the flag on your chest
is something that kind of trumps them all.
So that's one that I've put on my goals
for my career ever since I was a little boy.
Presidents cup and router cup.
So me and Chris, both kind of being in the position
very early in the year, you know,
we've got, we've got quite a few terms to play,
but that would be one of the more memorable weeks,
I think ever if we were to both make it and play together,
I think we would have a blast
and I think we'd be a pretty good team.
I bet so, especially with the combination of his driving
and your putting and especially the way you're ironing it.
I mean, goodness gracious.
That seems like a great team,
but you also mentioned more tournaments.
You got a gust on deck coming up very soon
and of course plenty of other big events,
but from imminent South Carolina,
I did a little Google research here on maps
to figure out how far away it is, two hours and 26 minutes.
So I imagine this is a golf tournament
that you've been looking forward to playing your entire life,
you know, making it into that event.
Of course, I guess was at top 50,
they got you in at the end of the year.
Tour Championship.
Oh, Tour Championship.
So this has been something that's been on your mind
for quite some time.
How excited are you to get on the grounds at Augusta?
Yeah, I mean, that's the one that everyone wants to play
and that's the one that everyone wants to win.
Like you mentioned when I played with Rory at the BMW
to try and make a tour championship,
like I think the thing that was almost more than the
tour championship was if I played good today,
I get to play in the Masters.
And that is the most exciting thing,
you know, that kind of happened to me
during the off season.
And I was pumped about it the whole time.
And, you know, just the idea of getting the imitation
of the mail was just incredible.
I saw some of my buddies getting it
and I'm like, where's mine?
I'm checking the mail twice a day.
Do you call your ages like, do they have my right?
I'm trying to figure it out.
And after, you know, three days of going by
and all my friends have gotten it,
I'm like, hey, Jimmy, where's mine?
And he goes, oh, I've got it in my office.
I'll send it to if you want.
I'm like, man, why are you holding out on me?
Oh, my God.
You gotta at least tell me what's going on.
I'm freaking out here thinking I'm not gonna get one.
So, yeah, that's gonna be incredible.
I'm pumped about that.
Ever?
I played it twice during college.
That was kind of our thing at Clemson
is you get to play it a couple of times.
It's a good thing.
That's a good thing to have.
Yeah, and it's just special place.
First time I played there, I never didn't make a birdie
the whole day.
It's great.
One bogey, 17 bars, I was pretty pumped about it.
Yeah, fun walk.
Yeah, and then second time I played pretty well.
So, yeah, I'm pumped to get down there.
I think the week is gonna be amazing.
We've got a lot of family coming in
and trying not let it get too crazy,
but I'm gonna try to have a good time as well.
I think another unique part about your game.
Ten finger grip.
So, is that from your baseball background as a kid?
Because I think so many people would have probably
tried to change that at an early age.
Who was the mentor of the coach that said,
no, this is fine, we can work with this.
Yeah, I think baseball for sure,
when I would play baseball,
I'd have the thumbs around the bat.
And then with golf all I do is switch them on on top.
And that was just the easy little change, you know?
And over time, I'd started playing enough baseball
to wear my golf swing.
It started getting like split, and that was,
that was never good.
That could be a problem.
Yeah, great free and flop shots.
That made some chunk hooks come.
So, yeah, it was never, it was never really an issue.
I'd never tried to change.
I didn't feel like I needed to.
I think the common idea is that 10 finger grip
produces a hook and I've never struggled with a hook.
So, it hasn't really been a thing.
And that was definitely a few people that's like,
oh, when you get to college, they're going to change your grip
and coach family, coach bird, never mentioned it.
And I was like, hey, you know,
what do you guys think about my grip?
You think it's good?
Kind of hinting at the idea and they were like,
yeah, looks good, maybe a little strong,
but no problem, nothing about the finger.
And, you know, it's been good.
It feels natural to me.
I feel like if anything, my fingers are so scrunched together
that it almost plays like an overlap or something.
So, no big deal.
You know, I wouldn't change it either.
Especially if I was the Clemson coach
and I see that you had 50 rounds in the 60s,
which by the way, it was a Clemson record.
And I was asking Jamie, I was like,
what was the one thing that you notice
about Jacob and college?
It's like, God just rolled the rock
and was so good at shooting low scores.
That was the one thing that he noticed most about you.
And Scott Hamilton, of course,
by the way, when did you hire Scott?
September of 22, so I'd been a pro for maybe four months.
So, he's been along your pro journey.
And so, heading into this, this really this year,
I'm most curious about what's been the big improvement
for you in your iron game,
because I saw that Jimmy had texted me
and said that you'll try to shorten up your arm swing.
You try to get a little bit more width in your golf swing.
And Scott had mentioned it's because of your 10 finger grip
that it causes a little bit more lean
and that you have to kind of find ways
to kind of create a little bit of space.
Is that kind of something you've had to always fight a little bit?
I think I didn't know an issue
until I started working with Scott.
And he is just genius.
I think he's probably the smartest guy I've ever met.
And he would never guess it
just because he doesn't show off
or doesn't try to act that way.
But yeah, he's been amazing to me.
He told me when I started working with him
that he wasn't gonna take a dollar from me
until I made it to the tour.
He's like, no, man,
I'm gonna take you to the tour
and then you can start paying me.
So he's been just so generous to me my whole career.
And when I first went down there,
I didn't know what he's gonna say.
I was kind of nervous about if he wanted to change a ton
and what my next few months would be like
because I was gonna do it,
but I didn't know how it would look.
And he said, you've got a little bit of a problem here.
He said, but I'm gonna change a few things very slowly
and we'll look back in a year
and we'll see what it looks like.
And I'm like,
I'm like, well, do I need to go hit a bunch of balls there?
And he's like, no, just do what I do normal.
And it'll change over time.
He goes, just trust me.
I'm gonna do it slowly.
And after a year, it looked a little bit different
and I started to get a little better.
And then after another year,
he changed a few more things
and it started to look a lot better.
And then fast forward to,
I guess I've had him for three and a half years now
and the last few weeks on the range,
he's come up to me and said, swing looks great, man.
He's got nothing to say.
And I think talking to you about,
when you're talking about the 10 finger grip,
like it does in a way produce leaning of the shaft.
So your hands are split a little bit more.
So you happen to lean the shaft and it's strong.
So you're gonna get a lot of right hand motion in there.
That's important to keep that out
and you're gonna lean the shaft.
So I had a problem with ball flight.
My ball would just go low and I had kind of low spin
because of that kind of smothering technique in a sense.
And I just couldn't quite compete with the guys
with like a four and five iron.
They were going too low.
So that was kind of our main emphasis
and we started with just lofting up my irons
and trying to fix it without doing anything.
Right?
And switching to a new ball and everything was great.
And then kind of over time,
I've come back to regular lofted irons
because I had the ability to hit them up now.
So it was a lot of shortening the length
of my swing at the top.
But without my wrist kind of cocking.
So I had a ton of shoulder turn.
I still do.
But if my wrists don't set like I'm really wide
and I'm able to deliver the club more stripping down
and the more I lag it, the more it leans.
So you said they're staying, they come out lower.
Yeah, and it's just miss hits.
There's a lot of open faces.
And when I start to struggle with the driver,
it's just the same thing.
It's kind of this old habit screwing back in.
So one of the main things we worked on for three years
is trying to get with and rotation of my shoulders
just to use the ability that I have to be flexible
and use that to give my speed instead of the lag.
So it's been a process, but it has been a very easy process
that he's made it.
And he's been a genius throughout all of it.
We still go back and look at our first lesson
in what my swing went like.
I can't.
Old car'sville congee club.
It's the nicest people in the world.
All right, when you pull up, I loved every time I would pull up
there, it just seemed like you made a new friend
every time you're in cartersville.
Also Trevor Warrantz from the cartersville,
another cousin guy.
Clemson legend.
By the way, he needs a little bit of a swing lesson from Scott.
I try to get him to go.
He's got a lot of things going on in that golf swing.
See him in Tahoe every single year.
And before we get to Charlie, I have to ask about your putting
because it's statistically you're
one of the best putters on the tour.
And when I watch your routine, it seems
like you run this program every single time
that it feels like when you click the stop watch,
from when you hit the putt that it's the same.
Is that something you practice day in and day out
with that routine?
And especially when you get into a situation
on the 18th at Riv, is that all you were thinking about
which is running your routine?
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Yeah, so at Riv, I remember over the last couple of putts
like on the last few days, it felt to me
like I spent three minutes over the ball.
It felt so slow.
And I think that was me trying to slow down and calm down.
And then when I look back at the videos,
it was completely normal.
And I think that maybe it's just a muscle memory thing.
Want to coach pinley's big things for me
when I was a freshman was we're going to develop a routine
and you're going to do it every time
and you're going to do it now for the rest of your career.
And that that's kind of stuck with me.
I've done the same thing since my freshman year, I think.
You know, I read the plot the same way.
Get over the ball too.
I like how you do that.
Are you looking at your line to kind of just check your line
or do you use a line in the ball?
I don't use any alignments.
I have a sharpie down on the top of my putter
just so I don't line it up on the toe.
I don't care what's on there.
And I put my ball down so I can see just blank white.
I don't want anything.
I'm very visual.
If you were trying using a line,
one, I can't line it up straight.
And then two, the line always looks wrong.
Because I think a lot of my putting,
I read it from over the ball like when I'm about to hit it.
That's interesting.
I'm in the same way.
At least I can, you know, I read it from behind
and I'm like, okay, this is where it's going to be.
And I get over and it's like, oh, it's way more.
It's amazing.
And you know it's way more.
And I think for the most part, your instincts are right.
I think one of the few people I've talked to
that read plus the same way as me is Jordan's beef.
Like he, he sees a line flowing on the ground.
And he sees an area that he's going to roll over.
And he hits that spot every time, which is pretty insane.
I'm not quite that accurate.
But I think I see, I see when I'm putting my best,
I'm seeing a line going from my ball into the hole,
going over multiple spots as kind of some markers.
And when the putts are going in, it's a thick line.
Yeah.
And when you take that last look down to the ball
and your head, have you, do you have that picture
and image of your head of what you're putting to
of that whole line that you just created?
I think from, so kind of my whole process
is I read the putt, whatever, forgot my line.
And then when I get to address the ball,
I take two practice swings or two practice strokes.
And while I'm doing that, I'm figuring out how hard,
I'm kind of imagining how hard I'm going to hit the putt.
So at that point, I'm kind of looking at the hole
back at the ball, back and forth to figure out
how hard I'm going to hit it.
And then when I get over the ball,
all I'm seeing is I trace my ball,
I trace from the ball into the hole,
I see the line and I come straight back
and that's all I'm thinking about is a line.
You're going.
And because the two strokes before it,
I've figured out how hard I want to hit it.
So I have that feel in my hands.
And now all I'm focused on is starting it where I want to.
And that routine has never changed.
The only time it will change is sometimes
I see the line so well that I don't want to waste time
with a practice stroke because I'm like,
I'm going to see it.
I don't want it to change.
So maybe twice a tournament, I'll hop in there
and just hit the ball.
And I bet your make rate is 75% plus.
At least.
Yeah, it's a joke.
Every time I do that, it goes in.
It's like, oh, Jacob's really nervous.
He's not taking practice because this time,
actually hold the phone.
This is going to the bottom of the cup.
Yes.
And maybe every now and then in the wind.
If the wind dies down, I hit it really quick.
Yeah, I get that.
And actually, I expected to look over to Charlie here
to see him working on his putting stroke.
He's not, but it's your time.
Let's do this short side of thing.
Let's get rolling.
So here we go.
I got a mic right here.
I was going to, the segment is called short-sided.
Although now it's taking on a new meeting,
the amount of distance I have between the two of you.
And what this is, Jacob, it's a little lightning round.
OK, we're like to fire through about nine questions,
get some quick answers.
So here's what we're going to start.
Smiley mentioned baseball player growing up.
If I hand you a ball right now, what sort of velocity
are we looking at on the radar gun?
That's a big one.
I would say first throw, maybe 67.
I have no idea.
It would be tough.
It would hurt.
It's a problem.
I did it at the, yeah, that was, was that a, was that a,
was that intentional?
I didn't think the only potential like that.
I did the state fairground with Carolina and through it.
I thought it through really hard.
It was about 60, 67, not 66.
Maybe I would get maybe five or if I got warmed up.
I'd do it hurt the next day.
It was, it was not ice for about to be up to three weeks.
So yeah, that's right.
Our second question for you is,
rather that you're, you were a mathematical science major
at Clemson.
So I think all three of us here have, at some point in time,
hit a drive into a fairway adjacent to the holder
was supposed to be playing.
But I think the two of us have never done this.
I don't know if you have ever used the Pythagorean theorem
to calculate your yardage from the other fairway to the hole.
With all respect to my caddy,
I don't think he could figure that out.
But not as a pro, I did in college
because I hit it really crooked off the tee in college.
So I was always figuring out some stuff
and a couple of times with the rangefinder makes it way easier.
You know, I would shoot the other guys in my group
standing where they are, asking how far they had
and then, especially with those some trees in the way,
like he couldn't shoot the pin,
like I would shoot something over here
and use the, use the angle.
But we say we're not a math pod a lot of times on the show.
I showed her to think of like the things
that you've forgotten about math
that we've never even learned.
That's amazing.
Let's see if you forgot about this.
All right, so Py is 3.14.
What's the next number?
What do you mean?
After four, because it keeps going.
Oh, no idea.
Me either.
My mom has a shirt, my mom's a math teacher
and she wears a shirt that is a Py on Py day, you know.
Marsh, love Py day.
Coming up, by the way.
Coming up, she knows the number, but I know it.
Fantastic.
Right now, because we're delving the Climbs in a little bit,
best Climbs and football game we've ever been to.
That would have been, let's see.
Recently, I took GWB to the Climbs and Carolina game
and we lost.
But it was an absolute blast.
I would say that.
Now, is this Carolina, South Carolina?
Yeah, there's only one.
Well, hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
The Carolina's UNC.
Oh, okay.
I think they're scar, but that's, you know,
that's a wrap.
We call them the chickens at school.
That's amazing.
We share the same stuff.
That game was incredible.
That was a Climbs and Florida state game.
The year after I graduated, my wife was still at school
at the time and I was in the student section.
They had just got the new score or the new jumbo tron,
the new lights.
It was a night game.
New speakers.
I had Goosebumps the entire game.
The coolest moment I've ever been in my life that, you know,
it was rocking in there.
I'm one of the first home games of the year, eight o'clock game.
We smoked them.
It was incredible.
Have you ever run down the hill?
No.
Hand on it.
They might have to do that here.
They might have to get you around it.
The other thing is on the topic, I want you to estimate
how many times in your life you've spelled out
C-L-E-M-S-O-N.
Yeah, there's sometimes there's an ad in before the end,
but we'll say that one.
Gosh, it's been thousands.
I mean, if you've ever been to a Climbsing game,
it's every first down and we've had
quite a few first downs in the last six or eight years.
So it's thousands even.
I heard one actually at RIV on Sunday.
Really?
One of the guys tried to start it and no one went along with it,
but at least tried.
I went to the last ACC Championship game
where it was Coastal against Atlantic,
where DJU had like one series and we're like,
oh, we might win this game and then club that came in.
The amount of times I heard Climbs have spelled out.
I think I heard it in my head for weeks, for months.
It just was over and over and over again.
So Climbs and Auburn, they opened in the season against each other.
This would have probably been seven or eight years ago, probably.
And we all bought Climbs and T-shirts for all the Auburn guys.
It was on a beach trip with all the guys.
And we said that chant over and over and over again,
because we had a couple Auburn fans
that get pretty triggered with that.
So my brother actually still wears his concert shirt right here.
We got him over and over again.
What's up there?
Yeah, we'll take him.
So doing some recon for this, the conversation, Jacob,
went on your Instagram.
So you have like one of those little story tabs eats.
Seems like you might be a little bit of a foodie.
Okay, I need to add to that in a while.
Well, so this is what I want to know is that, okay,
date night with Haley, all right,
you're in charge of cooking.
What's the meal you're chefin' up?
Like what's the best case meal you can put out there for?
So I got a, I got a big green egg recently
from one of the problems I played in and you're an egg guy, right?
Big egg guy.
Yeah, and it's incredible with a rib eye.
So there's a bunch of shopper out of the street
from my house.
I'll go there.
Haley recently, last probably year.
So I started to really like some steak.
So I'll make, I'll make like a big, yeah,
I'll make a big rib eye.
She always has to have a salad.
So we'll do a salad with like goat cheese,
some like walnuts, some sort of,
some sort of balsamic, like that.
Like some throws some sweet potato in there.
And then we'll just pick a veggie.
We take it pretty calm at home,
but I go, I go nice with the steak.
Yeah.
That sounds amazing, right?
Yeah, I'm like, I want to end in your mind.
Do you hear my side?
That's what he's saying.
Do you hear me?
We always have like a little,
we split a bottle of kombucha at dinner.
It's nice.
Oh, love that.
So that's, I like kombucha with the steak.
That's a, that's a nice little health spin on it.
Am I, are you gonna try?
Probably a little better with the salad,
but by the time you get to the steak,
you're focused on it, I'm proud of you.
So I was gonna ask you a different question about the masters,
but we brought up a topic, you're from the area,
and we've had a number of people come on the show,
we're on the topic of food,
and we've had some interesting opinions
about the pimento cheese.
I don't want to get you in trouble,
but I just want to know where do you stand
on the pimento cheese sandwich?
Yeah, so the, the pimento cheese at Augusta's good,
I've had it before.
I'm not a big egg salad guy.
Okay, but I think they,
they do quite a bit of pimento cheese in that sandwich.
I've got some favorites from the store,
I would probably choose a little bit more,
maybe some jalapeno pimento cheese is nice.
Okay, all right.
There's like a palmetto brand that's South Carolina,
that's very good.
The best.
But yeah, I love pimento cheese.
I'm on a burger, is special.
Yes, I started putting the potato chips on it,
the masters, do you like that?
A little brunch?
Yeah, it's a little gummy.
Yeah, a little gummy.
Yeah, okay, all right.
So yeah, well that's our first pro vote
for the master pimento cheese sandwich.
I'm like that.
Southern guy.
Southern guy's on this side.
It's annoying, they're like, what does that even mean?
And that's a perfect transition
because the next place I want to go is,
you know, you're kind of working with it now,
but you at certain points in your life
had an elite Southern frat swoop going on.
I want to know, you're the best era you've had
for the frat swoop, time in your life,
year of school, whatever it was,
the best version of that little flow you had going.
Yeah, find somewhere along my Instagram.
I won my first state championship
and I looked like a little child, but I just,
I think I got like a fresh haircut
for the ring ceremony, all this stuff.
It's totally, I'm wearing like my first clumps
and shirt, I just committed it was,
that was like full on Justin Bieber hair.
Yeah.
Back when it was cool.
Follow up on the swoop.
Were you a guy that kept the swoop up with your head
like this, or did you use your hair?
No, I think all the kids that did that got made fun of.
Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't, I couldn't do it.
I was one of those kids.
I just like, yeah.
He was looking, but yeah, that was like,
no, no.
My dad always to give me a hard time.
And he's like, stop doing that.
I can't stop, can't stop.
All right, we got a couple more here.
The first one I want to know is the golf course
you have not played that you most want to play.
We were just at Pebble.
I want to play Cypress.
I know, okay.
I think we can, I think we can.
I think we might be able to put in a word for you there.
It's far, but I would do that one.
Okay, fantastic.
Cybers is a good answer.
And then this is maybe the most important question
we're gonna ask you, I'll interview.
Do you have a favorite bridge?
Like you have to have a favorite bridge.
Should I don't?
You don't have a favorite bridge?
We need to come with an answer for you.
I grew up in Greenville.
We're four hours in the coast.
Like if we have bridges, it's over a creek, man.
Like we don't have a favorite bridge.
They don't have names, I promise you.
I think it's gotta be like,
a swollen bridge, we gotta find you like a golf bridge.
So when people add, I mean, it's right there.
I'll take it.
I'll adopt one.
I'll adopt one.
Okay.
Like you adopt a highway, we're gonna adopt a bridge.
Take one.
Might be in the middle of nowhere, South Carolina
on the way to the Massachusetts.
Over a creek.
Hey, we can name it.
We can put a sign up on that.
That's right.
That's right.
They're not names, so we can.
The Bridgeman Bridge.
There we go.
They just, you know, it's like a sandwich.
It's like a tomato tea sandwich.
Yeah.
There we go.
Well, that's it.
That's been short-sighted.
I really, I kinda like this version of it.
Yes.
Really on top of it.
Close to both of you.
Yes.
Fantastic.
Uh, Jacob, congratulations on winning on the PGA tour.
Thank you.
Much success to you, the rest of the year.
We can't wait to watch you.
All these major championships coming up, players championship.
And of course, hope to see you in that red, white, blue at the end of the year.
And when that's over, I guess good luck in Baton Rouge at the Real Death Valley.
But, uh, kinda, I guess.
Yeah.
I'll be rooting against you.
We'll see.
I don't, I'm not too confident right now.
We'll see.
It's, uh, who's, who's got the Real Death Valley?
We took it in Clemson.
Clemson takes LSU.
And it's serious.
Good evening.
Good start our season off to a nice, with a nice win.
It's a redo.
See you later.
Nice to meet you.
You're gonna make me spell out.
Yeah.
I don't really.
We'll see you next week on the golf channel.
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