314. Creating Space For Positivity

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Well, hey, Dave Melenda here, positive polarity podcast.

Hope things are going awesome for you this week.

As I love to do, I love to start with a question and I got a really good one that's like, you're

going to be like, what?

It doesn't even make sense.

So just stick with me today as I ask this question and maybe you're in the midst of this

right now.

And the question that I have for you is like, when's the last time you had a negative thought?

And I'm like, oh my gosh, what the heck is that up to do with business?

And we're going to unpack that today.

We're going to have a ball.

I'm honored to be hanging out with Shae Springer.

How are you today?

I'm good.

Thank you.

And thank you for having me.

I appreciate it.

Absolutely.

So you started a company called Whole Life Mind and Body.

So why don't you fill us in on what that is?

We're dying to learn more about that.

The Whole Life Mind and Body is a holistic spiritual practice, sort of.

It has nothing to do with religion.

It has nothing to do with Christianity.

Christianity, it's really about yourself, oneself, recognizing who you are.

And at Whole Life Mind and Body, what we do is we are hypnotherapists and LP practitioners.

We work on the entire existence.

We do some energy work there as well, but it's the entire existence of the mind, the body,

and the soul.

Oh my gosh.

That's so cool.

I love that sort of.

So it's kind of, you know, it's like kind of pregnant, you know, this is kind of a

ball.

So I want to kind of start with that thought about negative thoughts because you talked

about NLP, which is neuro linguistic programming.

And I don't know a ton about that, but help us understand what that is.

So for somebody listening right now, that does struggle with negative thoughts.

Let's just keep it super simple, super easy.

You know, they're the half, the glass half empty type of person.

They're the one that tends to find something wrong with everything that's going on around

and whether, you know, personally or out in the world.

How does that, how do you help that person?

Because again, I'm guessing it might be a blind spot for a lot of people.

They might not even know that they have it, okay?

So like when you talk, think about NLP or the neuro linguistic programming, Shay, what

does that mean for us to kind of walk us through what that is?

Yeah.

It's kind of a really big word.

So I want to keep it really simple so that people can really understand what that means.

I'm just going to break it apart and really simple parts.

Nero means the brain, it's the study of the brain, right?

And how the brain functions, how the brain takes in information.

The linguistic is the language that we use every day, which of course connects that information

comes from the brain and it's just how we think about things.

So yeah, so NLP basically helps, it's a process of coaching and it helps people to eliminate

negative thoughts.

So if you're someone who constantly thinks in a negative space, then we go through this

process of helping you to get out of that space.

And a lot of time is to listen through a basic timeline of taking you back to where the

problem actually began.

And a lot of times, basically when we have those negative thoughts, it comes from way before

and it just happens to live up with you today.

So can I blame my parents for this one?

You can.

Right?

Right?

We always want to blame.

Hey, we love blaming other people, right?

That's right.

That's right.

But so, so thank you for that simple definitions.

But and I want to kind of go, I want to ask a question way, maybe deeper than we want

to go, but I really am curious because like, did that, where did it come from?

Because sometimes I feel like when I have negative thoughts, sometimes I feel like that's

a, you know, that feels dirty or a feeling, right?

There's negative feelings that kind of come along with the negative thoughts.

So we're, you know, obviously it could come from a lot of places.

So I don't know if you can pinpoint it.

But is it, does it start when you're younger in your world and you're exposed to a lot

of that?

Or where do you normally see that start from, Shay?

I'm so excited that you asked me this question because this is about to get really real

for you.

Cool.

So a lot of our negative thoughts and our negative habits happens when we're in the womb.

Right.

Right.

In the womb of your mother.

So let's think about it like this.

Let's think about it.

When you're in your mother's womb, there is an umbilical cord attached to you, right?

That umbilical cord is your lifeline.

It holds everything.

It holds mother's memories.

It holds mother's feelings.

It's not just a cord that nourishes you.

It is the whole embodiment of you.

So if mom is going through a trial and tribulation, because remember, a child can hear inside

of the womb, a child can feel because of the central nervous system that it is attached

to with the inside of the mother's womb.

So the mother is in distress.

The baby feels that if the mother is arguing with the significant other, the baby hears

that.

So what do you think happens when that baby is taking in that information into their central

nervous system?

Sure.

Oh my gosh.

That's really good to know.

I mean, the interesting thing though, then I kind of feel like the next question is, it's

if it's not my fault, necessarily, how do I fix it, right?

Because if it's something that was done to me, so to speak, I mean, when you think about

in the NLP, we're reprogramming some of the things that we learned as a kid, you know,

I'm not good enough or, you know, I suck or whatever they are, whatever we struggle with,

I could never do that, whatever the words are that people have.

And before I ask my question there, that brings up another one, do we tend to see a lot

of times people have a lot of that, is there one big thought like, I'm not good enough

or do there tend to be a ton of different thoughts that people battle with at that spot?

It's, they tend to battle with a number of different things.

It's not just that they're not good enough, they're hurting and they don't know why they're

hurting.

They're angry and they don't know why they're angry.

It just really depends.

I mean, I've seen, I have seen people that, you know, they hold onto thoughts because

they remember, when you take them through this elicit timeline, it's a process, right?

It's not an easy thing.

And it's pretty complicated and we couldn't cover it all in this episode, but when we take

them through that process, some of them actually end up remembering where it first began.

And sometimes it's like three months or four, four months after their hearing has developed

with inside the womb.

It can actually recall what has happened to mother and then you can come back and talk

to if their mother is still living and ask them about it, right?

And nine times out of ten, it's been a confirmation that whatever they heard inside the womb, mother

has actually confirmed that.

Sure.

Wow.

And then, so to try to tie that into business, so fast forward the tape, you know, I

start a business or you start a business or a listener starts a business or they work

and corporate really doesn't matter.

But these kind of these negative thoughts just kind of, when did they start?

I mean, do you notice them growing up because I feel like for me personally, Shay, there

were a lot of negative thoughts that I had to battle whether I wasn't strong enough

or smart enough or, you know, there was just those self-defeating thoughts.

And part of me is like, I just was like, oh, that must just be human.

It doesn't feel like that was really normal.

And I'm just not normal like in a good or bad way.

It just didn't feel like it was number one, it didn't feel healthy.

Yeah.

But like, how do you like, I mean, like simple, they're simple strategies to kind of work

that through as a kid or an adult, if somebody's listening right now and they're struggling

with that?

You know, it's not a simple answer.

And I wish that it was.

I mean, negative thoughts can begin from the time you're in the womb.

It could start as early as kindergarten, first grade, second grade, third grade, right?

It really isn't a simple answer to that.

The thing is, is when you notice them, right, when you notice them.

So some kids can say, at the age, say in second grade, they can say, I think negative thoughts

and I don't know why, right?

Okay.

You just know it's happening there and how to deal with that and how to support that

child during that process, right?

And most people don't realize that this is happening because of previous, something

previous, but they start to notice it early on.

How do I, I mean, I know it's difficult to kind of fix.

Are most people aware that they're negative?

I guess it's a question that I had for you.

No, most people have a big blind spot for people.

That is a huge blind spot for people.

In fact, when someone is being negative, they're actually think they're being positive, right?

They're being positive.

It's like the reverse effect, right?

You're the outsider looking at it.

You can clearly see that there is something not quite right going on there, but they in

their heads, because of how they live their lives for so long, they believe they're actually

positive.

They're being positive.

So that, yeah, that's a, and those are just kind of, yeah, go ahead.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

No, I'm just curious if like, I think of like, I feel like once you have a thought, it's

like a path and it gets easier and easier to walk on like in snow, right?

If you see a, if you have 12 inches of snow and then you find a path, it's way easier

to walk on that path.

So like, you just naturally do those thoughts.

And then I feel like people that like we coach, they feel like, well, that's just who

I am.

I'm just a negative person.

And that seems like it's just a cop out to really not deal with what's really going

on.

It would agree.

I would agree 100%.

It's easier for people to say this is how I am instead of really taking a step back, pausing

and recognize, this is not who you are.

This is who you're choosing to be at this time.

And that's another part of this, right?

We all have the ability to change behaviors, to eliminate how we feel and think about

things.

Yes, it may be hard.

I'm not saying it's easy.

I'm not saying that there is no, you know, mental health is different.

I always say, let me just be clear about this.

Negative thoughts sometimes can come in when people have mental health issues, right?

That's a whole different story, a whole different program altogether.

But there's a difference between mental health and mental health and mental health and

bad behavior.

And a lot of times when we say, this is who I am, that's a bad behavior.

Okay.

So a great question.

How would I know the difference is my mental health related or is it bad behavior related?

How would a listener know the difference between those two or is that really hard to identify

in the surface?

It is.

I mean, I've been a special education behavior specialist before I started my own business,

been doing this for about 23 years now.

This is probably my 23rd year.

And it does take time to recognize, like the obvious, if someone has schizophrenia and

can become manic, that's mental health and mental health, right?

There will be some behaviors in near that transpire, right?

And if someone just has a good example would be someone who is stubborn, right?

Someone who's being very stubborn, someone who has a hard time following directions, that

can be looked at as mental health as mental health, but at the same time, it's bad behavior

sometimes.

It depends upon what the situation is.

So it does take time to recognize that.

I mean, I've been doing this, like I said, 23 years, and it takes time to see the difference

and know the difference between the two.

Sure.

And the goal would be really not to try to use it as a reason to continue to do it, whether

it's bad behavior, it's on us to work on if it's a mental health issue, then that's

where we would bring in a professional to try to help us through that.

That's right.

That's right.

Okay.

So before we take our break, I want to ask you a question because you talked about you

were in the education world for a long time, and now you've recently jumped into owning

your own business.

And as we talked before, we jumped on today's shade, there's a bunch of people listening

from around the world right now that are like, how did you do it?

I want to do that.

And we always say there's no right or wrong way.

So just because she did it her way isn't necessarily the way that everybody's got to do it.

Was it quick for you, like you're like, I'm done with this, and I'm going to start a business,

or was there a long process for you before you started, kind of share with us the journey

if you could before we jump into our break?

Yeah.

So ironically, I've been doing this for five years now, and this business for five years.

And it was quite a bit of a journey.

I have always been someone who took a step back, assessed, I'd like to be the observer

in the room, right?

To see what's happening, and once I've done that, I can then step in and say, hey, here's

where the gap is, and this is what I'd like to do.

And I noticed that there was quite a bit of negativity happening, negative thoughts.

People were feeling bad about themselves.

The world was in such a disarray, and ironically during this time, I decided that I

was always interested in the brain, and how the brain function, that's just my jam.

I like that stuff.

And I was going through a divorce, and I said to myself, I'm going to do what I've always

wanted to do.

There's nobody to stop me.

I had been afraid.

I was worried about what people thought, but that I wanted to be a clinical hypnotherapist.

I wanted to go into hypnotherapy, and then NLP was a part of that whole journey.

And I just decided I went through Transform Destiny, you know, did all my trainings through

Transform Destiny, and I just ended up loving it.

So once I did that, there was this person within the class that I was in.

She already had her own brand, her own practice, and she said, once she met me, it was something

about me that she wanted me to start my practice inside of her practice.

Oh, nice.

She really just gave me my break into helping people, my clientele, and to help them start

my own space before I ended up getting my own space.

And it was a scary thing.

It was very, very, you know, here I am in the world of hypnotherapy, in the world of NLP,

in the world of helping people become their best self, and I just did it.

Wow.

Is it like, was it, did you start doing some of that training while you were still employed?

Oh, yeah.

I still do.

I still do.

I do both.

Okay.

I do both.

My purpose in this life, talk about it, my purpose in this life is to teach, is to

coach, is to help a human being, whether it's an infant, to adult, to become their better

self, because at the end of the day, when we all transition and leave this life, have

to be happy with who we are.

Sure.

And that is my purpose.

Well, I love that.

And I think that's probably a great spot for us to, again, take this break.

But think about so many people that are listening.

They have this idea about a widget or a service.

They have an idea on what they want to do with this business.

I think it's a totally different way that you're mentioning it is, my purpose is acts.

And once you knew that purpose to teach, then you kind of filled in the rest of it around

that, which I think is really a, a great way to look at this, rather than think I want

to make a million dollars or I want to be out on a beach with my laptop.

Whatever people have is a vision of what it is to own your own business.

I think it's a great different way to look at it.

My purpose is acts.

And then once you have that, you can start to really unpack what that business looks

like.

Were you, were you pretty clear on what your purpose was early or did that take you

a while to figure out that your purpose is to teach?

I think it took me a while to accept it.

It took me a while.

There's a difference, right?

All roads in this life, the life that we live, all roads lead you to your purpose.

People often ask me, how do I find my purpose?

What is that purpose?

Your purpose is now every sign, every image is showing you your purpose.

And in my case, it slapped me in the face and I was being hard headed.

I did not, under neural circumstances, when I was growing up, that I said, oh, I want

to be a teacher.

That was not, that was not my dream to be a teacher.

It wasn't.

But I did notice that when I say signs and symbols and the universe speaks to us, everything

that I tried that was not about teaching and helping people failed.

Okay.

Wow.

It failed.

It wasn't until I was, I will say my age, I'm 57.

So it wasn't until I hit my 40s when I said, okay, I hear you talking to me, I'm going

to do this.

And that's when everything just kind of like took off, right?

Well, I was going to say you're in your 20s, but you already had 30 some years of experience

because you look like you're in your 20s.

So great job on this whole life, mind and body is definitely working out.

All for you from there.

So, hey, we're going to take a quick break and we come back.

I want to kind of transition this into business and see how we can help the entrepreneur that's

listening.

So we'll be right back.

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Welcome back, honored to be hanging out with Shay Springer, the founder of Whole Life

Mind and Body and we've been talking about neural linguistic programming and for those

that are way over your head like it is me, I'm like, what does that mean?

It's like, okay, deal with your thoughts and keep them as positive as you can.

And I think that there's a lot of people listening that just feel like life happens and I

feel like there's this victim role, what happens to me rather than I allow it to happen

or not allow it to happen.

And I'm just curious for the not-treatpreneur listening, you know, what do you do if there's

somebody listening that is struggling with positive or negative thoughts, we'll start here.

If they are doing that, what do you do?

Like if somebody called you and said, Shay, I am struggling with my negative thoughts.

Like, do you do stuff online?

Does it have to be in person?

It's like the starting point for that person that's listening right now.

So, if someone called me and said they were having a negative thought or, you know, life

just kicks me down, this keeps happening to me, my number one thing I say to them is this.

Or I like to remind them that this is not happening to you, it's happening for you.

No.

Okay.

You can change those words because words are everything, words mean everything.

What you spew out is what you are giving your attention to.

So, when you realize the things that you feel are negative is happening to you and then

you change that around to say, it's not happening to me, it's happening for me because it's

telling me I need to go someplace.

I need to go to a different space.

It is trying to elevate me.

It is an invite to help you to grow, to be better, to step into your full potential.

And it kind of feels like you transition from hopelessness to hope, you know, because

again, when something's done to me, I feel like I can't control it.

I have nothing to do with that.

But as soon as you kind of turn that corner like you were talking about and transition

that thought process, I could never start a business.

I could never sell a million dollars.

There are so many things that we probably face every day that we don't even know we're

doing it.

It's got to be just such a natural thing.

And does it start to like affect every chunk of your life?

Do you start to notice the negativity personally?

Yes.

Financially, physically, spiritually, everything?

Oh, yeah.

It affects every ounce of your existence, right?

Okay.

Again, let's take it back a few words to your words or everything.

The power of your words will take you into the direction you want to go in.

So for example, let's say you hate getting shots, right?

The anxiety of going to a doctor's office, right?

It just hurts, right?

I can't stand it.

I don't want to go to a doctor's.

It's just negative, negative, negative, negative, just bad thoughts.

You can't get out of it, right?

You feel that, right?

You feel that inside.

You feel that pressure.

Everything shifts in your body.

But if you know after that doctor's appointment that you're going to go to your favorite restaurant

and you're going to order as much as you want to eat because it's your favorite place,

then the energy starts to shift in your body, right?

It's about recognizing what we feel on the inside.

So it's, you know, your body starts to shift and you start to feel different on the inside.

We have to recognize and get in touch with what we're feeling in that moment on the inside

in order to ship that negative thought.

You have to give yourself a better feeling thought.

So when you feel upset about something, think about something that makes you feel happy.

Think about something that will elevate you.

Give yourself a better feeling thought from shifting from the negative space to the positive

space.

Wow.

That's the power right there.

Sure.

Sure.

And it feels, again, like I try to get in the mind of the listener and I'm hearing things

like, I'm just too busy to do all this.

I don't have time to do this, you know, excuses, a lot of excuses again.

And I say the same thing because I'm like, I'm, you know, for the little bit of time,

I'm negative, Shay, I'm fine, right?

But it's like how much negativity is okay, you know, what if it just keeps growing?

It feels like it's going to continue to get worse.

So do, do people come to you and with like one little idea about they want to fix one

thing and then all of a sudden it's like, oh my gosh, there's all this going on.

It gets deeper.

Is that happened pretty consistently all the time at all the time because they're so busy

trying to fix everything at one time and you can't do that.

Just think about it.

It took you years to get this way.

It's going to take you a couple years to get out of that.

So instead of trying to attack it all at one time, you're so busy, a tactic one moment,

one purpose, one day at a time.

This is how you start your business.

This is how you elevate yourself as a human being, one day, one emotion, one action, one

thought at a time.

Cool.

And then once you get that spot, I guess it's, I would, I picture an entrepreneur listening

that gets it, how do I then share it with the people around me without sounding plastic

or without sounding like I'm better than them because I can see positive people and

negative people.

They don't really get along well together because one's negative and one's positive.

How would I as a leader instill this into my team?

What are some thoughts that you have there?

As a leader, just in general, one of the biggest things I see as problems in leader is leaders

is one, they're very reactive, right?

They function out of ego.

They function out of power and they don't function in a space of responsibility, right?

And that becomes a, that becomes a problem in leadership, just in general.

So if you're a reactive person, if ego is a big deal, if you're a power hungry, if you

struggle with power, if you've identified those things, are we thinking that we don't

want to be reactive?

We want to be more intentional.

Would that be the kind of the opposite of reactive or what would the goal of, if I am

a reactive person, Shay, what would the opposite of reactive be?

Let me ask it that way.

To be the observer, don't be reactive, right?

When you're having a conversation as a leader, and this is so, this is so important,

and this is where I think a lot of leaders get it wrong.

If someone comes to you, right, with a problem, right, or they're feeling stressed or whatever,

whatever the issue may be, instead of reacting and trying to fix it, to get them out of your

space or to try to fix it because you think you know what they're going to say next.

Stop, pause, allow the stillness to set in.

Hear the entire story without the intention to just reply, speak, listen with the intent

to understand.

Actively listening, and we always talk about active listening, active listening, right?

That's the big word today, active listening, but let's think about this day.

How many people honestly actively listen, right?

Just don't do that because they function and they operate out of ego, right?

They function and operate out of reactive.

So the opposite of being reactive is really just stopping, not being reactive.

Stephen Covey said it best.

Listen with the intent to understand, really, not with the intent to reply.

Yeah, no, that makes a ton of sense.

I think one of the things that kind of abroad in that linguistic piece of the NLP is there's

a lot of nonverbal things that are going on in NLP, I mean, body language and the different

things like that.

So I think for a leader listening right now, again, you may have the right words, but maybe

your eye contact is off or your tonality is off, your body language is off.

So when you're thinking linguistic, it's the whole entire person.

It's not just the words that speak correct.

It is the whole person.

It is the entire person, mind, body, soul, sensitivity, understanding, the words that are coming

out of your mouth, your facial expressions, your body expressions.

All of it speaks a language, right?

It's a nonverbal language, right?

It's a spoken language.

And when people see that, people see that, then they respond according to what they see,

not necessarily to what they hear.

This is why the deaf community is amazing, right?

My daughter is deaf and they solely, solely rely on what they see because they can't hear.

So body language, facial expressions mean everything.

So if leaders take a moment and stop and recognize how they're coming across to the

person, their audience, who they're speaking to, they might have a better opportunity of

getting what they need done done, right?

Being leader is not about ego, it's not about power, it's about responsibility, it's about

taking that accountability for oneself and it doesn't challenge, you know, it doesn't,

it doesn't, sorry, it doesn't silence challenges and this happens a lot in leadership.

When you're challenged, you silence the person because now you're functioning again out

of ego.

Right?

Yep.

Yeah.

And I think that, you know, that all of a sudden kind of brings up the word culture because

a culture and a company is either positive or negative and a lot of times it's led by

the leader he or she ends up, you know, being the impetus for that type of culture.

And they might think they say the right words.

But again, if you, you know, I remember, I'm an only child.

So I remember when I was a little kid and I would hear my mom call my name and there

were two ways that it would be called.

There was a good way and a not so good way.

Yeah.

And one was like leading me towards her and one was like, Oh, I think I better scrum.

Right.

Right.

Don't say the full name.

Don't say your full name.

Oh, my gosh, it was David.

It was like, Oh, I knew I was busted for whatever, right?

But Dave was like everything was good, right?

For sure.

But I think that a lot of times leaders, us as leaders, we totally forget that piece that

we're leading other human beings that have the mind and the body.

And so I love that, you know, the name of your company with the whole whole life, mind

and body.

And do you feel like leaders miss that piece that they are actually leading a group of human

beings, not AI computers?

I mean, does that, does that, do you see that a lot?

I do.

You do see that a lot.

They forget that people are human and they, it's easy to dehumanize their employees.

And the sad thing is that they don't realize that this is what they're doing, right?

We don't realize that because I think leaders in general get so wrapped up in their day-to-day

operations, right?

And because they have someone above them to answer to.

So it's all about getting the work done, but where are you getting the work done?

You're dehumanizing those people that you're trying to lead.

In some instances, not all, but in many instances.

I find that the leaders who get it, they do, they start to recognize, okay, this person

has feelings, this person, this is happening to them, right?

And I don't want to make it worse, but I can still lead and get the job done, but I

just need to just be a little bit more sensitive to what's happening.

Sure.

And I think it's funny because people overlook hearing and listening and they overlook

body language and they overlook some of these simple communication skills that we all

need.

And they try to find these deep things and they try to be this great orator in front of

the group.

And it's like people don't, they don't care what you know until they know you care.

Right.

And it's just like that empathy piece, like we talk about that a lot on the show, just

weird, what happened to the empathy?

You know what happened to trying to understand, you know, that, hey, we got someone on our

team that's struggling right now.

And the last thing they need is just, you know, I laugh when people say, leave your personal

life at home.

And it's like, how in the world do you possibly do that?

You know, whether you're going through a divorce or you're going through a sickness in

the family, I mean, cancer, whatever you're going through, maybe you just had a bad

drive into the office.

Yeah.

It's so hard to just, it is very hard, so I was just making sure that we're on the same

page because I hear people, hey, just suck it up and deal with it.

It's just like, how does that, I don't know what that means, you know, I mean, you know,

when they do that too, it causes employees not to want to work, right?

You get call offs, right?

Because an employee doesn't feel heard, they don't feel seeing, they don't feel

respected, right?

Yeah.

It's all about what the leader can get from them.

But you got to stop and think, what are you giving them in return?

It really is a two way street, the simplest of things, right?

And many leaders don't say, thank you, they don't say, thank you for coming in today.

I really appreciate you coming in.

You didn't have to, they, they forget the, it's the little tiny things, Dave.

It's still small things that matter.

Yeah, we talk about small course corrections all the time.

And that's one of them as we start to land the plane today, which I think is really funny

because I've had leaders say, hey, I pay you.

What else do you want from me?

And it's just like, man, you are so off on that comment right there because if people

only understood that like you just said, I just appreciate you today.

I mean, once the last time that some, you know, somebody said to you, just for no reason,

I, I just appreciate you, you know, if we were, if, if the listener right now, my challenge

today to you is just to go find somebody that's doing something right and go call them out

on it.

What a great job you're doing.

Thank you for being here.

Whatever it is, try to instill some positivity into your group.

People might fall over and be like, oh my gosh, what'd you do with the owner of the company,

you know, what, you know, but it's just one of those things that I think is really helpful

for us to be able to do that.

So a couple of questions that I'm going to let you go.

What was your tip of the day be today?

Maybe it's something that we already covered.

Maybe it's something that hasn't got out of your heart and soul yet.

But what was your tip of the day be today?

You know, I would direct this tip of the day to leaders just in general is to stop, right?

It's important to stop, pause and breathe.

Because when you become reactive, what you're doing is say everything that I'm telling

you right now is urgent and you must stop what you're doing and nothing else you're doing

matters.

You are dehumanizing them.

So stop, pause and breathe.

Because if you don't, then you are taking the chance of losing someone who is so important

and see your employees, see them, see that they are human, see that they have lives, acknowledge

them and say thank you and be grateful.

Oh, that's great.

Yeah.

Remember, as a kid, stop, drop and roll, right?

It was always the thing you said in fires.

You know, so come up with your own ideas, a leader of what that is, but stopping.

It's so like foreign because we got to sell something or rent is due or, you know, there's

always 20 things going, there's always these plates spinning, right?

But the reality is is that three quarters of the team right now, when they quit, they

quit because of their boss.

That's it.

It shows that three out of four people that left your company, you had a large part to

do with it.

And that's so darn expensive and so painful for that company.

So I love that tip.

Thank you for sharing that.

I could do this all day, Shay.

I got to let you go.

But I want to ask you one more thing.

If you, if somebody is listening right now and they want to learn more about whole life

mind to body, they want to learn more about neural linguistic programming or have a question

for you, what's the best way for people to connect with you?

The best way to connect with me is through email.

You can email me at wholelifemindembodiedgmail.com.

Wholelifemindembodiedgmail.com, and so feel free to ask her a question, fill her in on what's

going on.

She'll be happy to help anyway that she can.

This has been so helpful, you know, for the people that are listening, if you do struggle

with negative thoughts, it's not necessarily something that's you need to live with, you

know, and that's where I think it's great for us to be able to have somebody like Shay

where you, you might have a question that it's like, hey, this is what I'm going through.

What do you suggest?

Those are great things that, you know, rather than live with it, rather than try to fix

it yourself, why not just email Shay and see what her thoughts are.

There might be an easier fix than you think, and that's where again, I love bringing these

types of things every week, Shay, thank you so much, this was so cool.

I was nervous about the NLP because I'm like, anytime there's neuroinvolved, usually people

talk way over my head, so you absolutely crushed it by talking at my sixth grade level,

I love it.

Well, I am an educator, right?

I am an educator.

Exactly.

What I do.

So you knew exactly where my level was, you found it, you locked her in, and you did great.

So thank you so much, I can't wait to keep learning more about this, and watching what

happens at whole life, mind, and body.

So thanks again for hanging out with us.

Thank you so much, Dave, for having me, I appreciate you so much.

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