#3277: Summer House S10E8 Part One: Old Man (Cry Me a) River

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Yeah, hey, welcome to Watch What Happens, I'm Ronnie and that's been Hello, Ben.

Hi Ronnie, how are you?

My little darling Munchkin, welcome everybody to the show.

It is Summer House day today, Kyle, Kyle, Old Man Kyle, making a nest out of himself.

Welcome to that.

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Also I did a couple of guest appearances this week.

I was on the Gabbing with Gibb podcast.

That man's adorable.

That was my first time over there.

Ben's already been on it, but I had never been.

He's a lovely man.

That was good.

We had a talk about the state of the union on Bravo and then I talked to Kate Casey about

some personal stuff and some Bravo stuff.

You know, I love talking to Kate.

She's a good friend and we've known each other for years, so a lot of it's just catching

up.

Like we don't even know when we press record.

It's like, well, here's what I think about Canasta and Real Housewives.

That's the Kate Casey podcast reality life with Kate Casey.

Those are both out this week's ago.

Give them a listen.

Okay.

Sounds like a great time.

Sounds like a great thing to do.

So today is the big summer house episode that Andy hyped up as the worst Kyle Cook episode

of all time.

And what's so funny is that when I watched it, I was like, oh, Kyle's being terrible.

And then on my mind, I thought, is this the worst?

Haven't we seen worse?

Is it the worst?

And then I thought, that's really bad.

That's really bad that you watched this and think like, no, but I'm pretty sure there

isn't an episode.

It's like, oh, you realize like they're between this and Winter House.

There were so many bad episodes for Kyle.

So many.

And you know, you're right because Andy was like, well, the worst of all time, Kyle, where's

a, you know, I don't know, bomb vest like it was like really bad.

And it is just more of Kyle.

It was just that, wow, I mean, you call your wife a fucking bitch and then don't stop

and then just keep, I mean, it's Kyle.

It's a Kyle episode, guys.

But yeah, I do think it is worse because he just wouldn't let up and then you see kind

of a man are just crying and him still not letting up or taking any responsibility.

And it's, girl, just leave that man.

Leave that man.

Leave him.

There's another post on Reddit today of like, Kyle hanging out with, you know, 22 year

old hot girls in the middle of the night, shit, face.

So shit, face, he can't even talk like the man is a mess.

It's time to step away, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it's, I was really, I was really happy that Sierra was like,

it's basically saying they need to separate.

It's time.

I'm glad that they are now at a place where they're verbalizing it.

I'm glad that it's actually what happens in real life, too, because it's just not.

It's just not healthy.

Kyle should never be talking to his wife that way.

I think they're both like, I'm not trying to be like both sides, both sides.

I think they are both in a toxic loop.

I think it's very obvious.

I think she does give jabs.

I think that he is inattentive.

I think then therefore she's inattentive in response because she's like, what the fuck?

And it is pretty rich when you see him complaining about how Amanda doesn't pay attention to him

when he's then out on the road as a DJ.

So they're just contributing to this like, awful situations, very chicken and egg.

But I think that like Kyle is, I think Kyle has been like, pretty, like, I'm trying to

think of the right word.

Is there word terrible?

No, we're both.

He's been fucking horrible, terrible, fucking horrible, yeah.

Fucking monster.

Yeah, leave him.

I mean, what's the word that truly captures it?

I think just, I think that he is being very, very needy all of a sudden while simultaneously

not seeming to give that same energy back for Amanda on the show.

So yeah, that's just a bad couple.

But Linda hear her crying and saying like, well, you know, I just don't know that I can

do any better.

And that's just so heartbreaking to hear that.

And we've all felt that.

I mean, I felt that God knows, you know, and that's not a good thing to feel.

But no, you have to kind of get yourself unstuck from that because nobody can do that for

you.

You know, even if you can't do better, you can't do worse.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, there you go.

That's that's kind of how I turned it around in my own head.

Like maybe I can't do better, but I certainly can't do worse.

See you loser.

Yeah.

And Amanda just, Amanda needs some time, I think to be single because I don't, I just don't

think she really had that.

I think 24 is really early.

I mean, obviously she got to be single for a few years, but like 24 is early.

You know, she went through her entire 20s with Kyle.

And in your 20s, you still, you still believe in things like being able to fix people.

And so she needs to like go back into the dating world, knowing that she can't fix people

and knowing that, you know, whoever she's with, she's got to meet them where they're at.

And they have to meet her where she's at.

And that's where you're hopefully going to find your connection and not hoping that you

will come together because there's a lot of good things on paper and then aspire to

get to that place where you have that connection.

So yeah, I mean, I believe that she loves him and I believe that he loves her.

But like, it requires more than just that.

And there's just a, as you've said a million times, as I've said, compatibility is the main

issue.

They're just not a compatible couple.

Yeah.

So we open up at Kisaki, the restaurant, and that's where they were at last week.

But now we're not going to have a discussion there.

We already had it last week.

So now we're going to go party.

Let's go.

Kisaki's back.

Kisaki's back.

Kisaki's back.

So they go dance and twerk at a bar.

People are still twerkin, huh?

Someone's laughing.

Yeah.

The big dance move that we see on this episode is falling over onto the floor.

We see like KJ falls onto the floor.

And then later then they go back home and dance some more and then they all keep falling

on the floor.

And it's like, I guess that's, is that the thing, is that what the kids are doing, just

throwing themselves onto the floor?

You twerk and then you fall down because your butt bone hurts.

I twerked, old people twerking, bang, bang.

So um, Lindsey comes home and goes to bed.

But then the rest of the cast comes back.

And of course Kyle runs straight to the DJ booth in the living room because he wants

to be the center of attention and DJ and nobody cares, okay?

I do not want to hear you DJing.

I don't care.

Just go, go put your, your fucking AirPods in.

Everyone is not your prisoner to sit there and listen to your shitty DJ set all night,

okay?

Yeah.

So it's like someone who is, it's like me, if I had you over and was like, Hey, I'm going

to sing at the piano all night.

Nobody wants that.

Do that shit.

I would like that.

Do that shit on your own.

No, you wouldn't.

It's annoying as hell and people like that need to stop it.

They need to be stopped.

Okay.

Yeah.

They're very much like birthday boy has his toys and so they're, and by the way, they

go and they dance.

They have fun.

They're fooling around and stuff, but like it's also the end of the night.

People, everyone's drunk.

They want to do their own thing.

They want to loaf about.

It's the summer.

They want to go to the pool.

And so, you know, people are dancing, having fun.

But eventually it's okay.

So let's, I'm looking at the timestamps here when they get home.

So they get home at around 12 38 a.m., but by 1 o' 2 a.m., Kyle is now alone and everyone

went outside.

So they dance for 20 minutes.

I think that's like way more than you can expect considering that they were already out.

They already dance.

They already got drunk.

People are now in their day new month.

Well, they're in their day new.

Okay.

They just want to go to the pool.

They got some pool noodles.

They're going to stick some laps.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

But like, you know, bro, like you're not going to, it's

people don't want to sit here and listen to your remixes until two in the morning in

this like this mildly lit living room area.

It's like not a part board cutouts everywhere that are freaking me out.

Like that jokes over to get rid of them.

So this is where it all begins because he is alone in the DJ booth and it's sad.

There's like those party city streamers everywhere and he's just like all bummed that nobody's

listening to him DJ and everybody else is at the pool.

Okay.

Holding everybody hostage.

Okay.

And go out to the pool and hang out with everybody.

It's one of those things like you're not doing what I want you to do.

So everybody's ignoring me.

No, you're ignoring everybody else by being a sad sack and staying inside at your stupid

pie in your machine.

You dumbass.

So they're having fun outside and the man is like, well, it might just jump to the

pool.

And it's like, do it.

Do it.

So they're like having like, let's push each other in.

So they're doing that stuff.

And meanwhile, Kyle's still in the DJ room alone and he just turns the music off and

he's all upset.

It's like, well, there's nobody wants to hear it and I had some David Quetta to play

but whatever.

And he's just all alone in this world.

Yeah.

I mean, look, have I ever had a drunk pity party for myself?

Hell, yes.

Have I had a sober one?

Yes.

So I like it.

I've definitely been in like sometimes things hit you in a way.

You're like, it's my birthday and no one's like people should want to be like inviting

me out to the pool.

Like I got that, but also just like go out to the pool and be with everyone.

You know, like, like, and also have people, by the way, by the way, take the note, which

is maybe the music you're playing is not good enough and everyone wants to room.

Okay.

Take the note and see how you can improve for next time.

If you're on a group of people and you're on a party house and everybody else is partying

in a different room, but you're partying in a room all by yourself to blame everybody

else is crazy.

That's a legitimately crazy, okay?

And if you feel like that, not you personally, but anybody in the audience is in a situation

like that.

You're the wrong one for being in that room, going to the other room.

If they ignore you in the other room, then you can cry to me, but you can't cry when

you're the one in the different room.

So he's crying.

He's being a baby and he's like, it's my girl up in a ball.

It's not a girl in a ball and die.

I meant to laugh.

He's laughing.

He should have been a blast with Jesse in West and Ben.

I'm just like literally all by myself because they ditched me and like, I don't know how

to explain it.

It's like, I feel isolated in a loan by my wife.

Well she probably feels isolated in a loan because you can't get away from your fucking

pioneer machine, drop the machine, bro.

It's one in the morning.

Nobody wants to hear it.

Yeah.

And again, you're the one who's going out on the road and teaching and then staying out

with the fans until late in the late at night while a man doesn't home and then you're

going to complain that you feel left alone.

They brought you home from the club last time I checked.

They took the major where you got back to the house and then you make it even worse.

They're outside having fun.

So now you don't get attention inside.

And so now you have to take a Bluetooth speaker outside to blast your music at everybody.

You are not sure.

I don't, it makes me crazy when people play other people's music and act like they made

this music.

It makes me nuts.

Like everybody wanting to hear my music.

It's not your music.

Okay.

It's Robin.

Now stop it.

Stop taking credit for Robin.

You did not make this.

Yeah.

Like just cut your losses.

People are just not in the mood to dance.

Don't take it personally and just join them and have fun.

You know.

So then, so he's dancing by himself and a man is like, guys, we should go to bed because

we have a big day tomorrow and Sierra is like, yeah, that's fine.

And so he calls like, hey, Amanda, she's like, what?

Where's the born me?

The support?

Kyle, you're not doing a gig.

You are not like performing at the pool.

It's a bluetooth speaker.

It's a bluetooth speaker.

Stop it.

It's like, why?

But I am important.

And he's not.

Wait, did Kyle just say Amanda, at least supportive wife in the world?

And he's like, oh, fucking believable.

Fuck you, Amanda.

Fuck you.

So he says, fuck you.

And everyone's like, oh, my God, because it's like you should, well, you should

relations it to anyone, but definitely not your wife.

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like Kyle Kyle and it like goes inside again like I think he I feel like he didn't get support

when he's like playing pressing play and like CDs in the living room this is not a gig this is not

like a support moment this is your providing music for the after party the after party die down

and now we're in the next phase of the night that's just how it goes when people are drunk and like

to act like she like he was graduating from Yale or something and she refused to come and see him

walk the stage is just absolutely ridiculous I'm okay everybody we're just gonna go to bed we're

just gonna act like nothing happened and we're gonna all celebrate Kyle's birthday tomorrow okay

and she was like uh yeah you can't just say fuck you to your wife and West is like yeah I'm gonna

talk to him and Matt is like no please don't and she's like you know what I don't want this to be

a thing you know I just and his birthday party tomorrow we'll just have fun and enjoy ourselves

like it is what it is we don't have to talk about it she's like what's the point literally what's

the point of talking about this it's only gonna make things worse and he's not gonna take a

accountability he's not gonna apologize for what he did I know that it's wrong and the way he speaks

to me I know it's wrong I'm fully aware I'm not okay with it I just know that having a conversation

about it isn't gonna go anywhere which is like sad that she's just like resigned to be like I would

rather just ignore it and just move forward then have to deal with another like empty discussion

that will not move the needle on our relationship what you're talking to a drunk you're talking to a

person who shit faced and throwing his he's like we see it we see it all the time with parents

in a restaurant when their kid is having a fit and they're just sitting there not doing anything and

in our minds it's like how can you not do anything your kid is sitting there throwing a fit throwing

food calling you a bitch probably whatever that two-year-old is up to and you just see that look

in their eyes and it's the same look Amanda has it's like they're two what can I possibly do like

they're two they're wasted they're calling me a bitch that's just what they do at this age yeah

I mean Amanda has that look in her eyes like he's two like what do you guys do you really think I'm

gonna have a conversation with that I've been dealing with this his whole life maybe he'll get

better when he starts preschool yes seriously so Ben goes up to Kyle and he's like hey coil you

walk past and said fuck you out of no way I was well that's how I felt I mean I don't know if

you'd pick up on it like how much did you see Amanda talking to me today like she said five words

to me all night long and he's like but what did you say to her well you said fuck you didn't you

hear that's me trying to make enough for me I said fuck you as much she's talking to me well but

she was hanging out with all of us all night not me though not me though yeah but really you really

well she was in my arms and I was looking into her eyes and enjoying the way the moonlight just

reflected off her lips where were you during that coil and Kyle can't say I was at the DJ stand

but nobody wanted to listen to me because that's what he really means because I think that's what

this whole thing is about so instead he's like I just get shut down no you literally do not get

shut down so west goes into Amanda's room and she's like going through it and she's trying to

sort of keep it together but he asks if she's okay and he's like god objectively like nothing

happened for that reactions just so bizarre to me and she's like yeah thanks and then she just

starts to cry and he's like I mean that's like the first time I've ever seen something where like

100% unprovoked he was just like so rude like and the other times he's been like rude but like I

guess semi-provoked or like just mindfully provoked so I didn't say anything but this time

100% so I'll just say something well that's like a calm version of Kyle like that's tame you know

I mean it's like geez she goes I know I'm not perfect like but I've literally been dealing with

this for like 10 years I mean it's not crazy and you know there's part of me that thinks

some like is this the best I'm ever gonna do and I mean I love he does love me so much and I don't

know I know it's constantly making excuses for Kyle and she's crying and by the way we don't

really see any of this right isn't this all kind of in this whole room yeah like there's a lot of

like sort of security cam footage here or just like stationary cameras yeah the four year

of doing a lot of heavy lifting this episode big times big time big time big time so Kyle walks

into the bedroom by the way Salt Lake City could learn a tip or two about just installing some

GoPro's and letting them roll all night because see they would have missed this so Kyle walks in

and he's just he walks into the bedroom and he just like it's like uh man uh and then he walks

out of the room west walks out so he goes up to Colin is like hey um go say you're sorry and like

because like nothing happened outside you just like walk by and you said fuck you for no reason

he's like wow she gave me the fuck you eyes which is like tenuous at best like what are you talking

about like that's like the worst excuse to ever pop off on your wife I mean you shouldn't have

there's no excuse to ever pop off on your wife but that's just bad now you're just projecting some

shit onto her know what she didn't Kyle he's like all right all right I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry

I'm sorry so he goes to the bathroom where Amanda is and she's like hey I'm just watching up for a

bed he's like oh yeah I'm sorry for saying fuck you I just don't feel like you pay attention to me

no that's not sorry Kyle when you say fuck you but it's your fault he's like but I just don't

feel like you pay attention to me and she's just like okay I mean I just don't feel like you know

you know I mean making the effort with me she's like what would you define as making an effort and

P.S. don't forget we are throwing you a party tomorrow that I'm organizing but what would you

define as making an effort he's like conversing talking so then west goes up to Ben's room and he's

like oh she just cried for it to me for like 20 minutes and that's like fuck that's like not good

and she's like well I don't know I don't I don't I just didn't understand where it came from

well even late at night I get applause just for being a model

well with friends like I've definitely been like conflict avoid it but like you know I've got no

choice in this situation to be part of the Kyle and Amanda mix because we live together you know

when I care about him and like if Kyle's being a dickhead like I don't know who has Amanda's back

I'm just a bully so then Amanda and Kyle are still talking and she's like well we're all out like

would you expect me to be like hanging out with everyone he's like yeah but like instead of me

like you're hanging out with all of my friends like what about me just hanging out with me Kyle

you do not want to hang out you wanted people to listen to you DJ stop pretending this is about

Amanda you're upset because no one liked your performance yeah just so you want me to hang out

with you while you're hanging out with all the random people that's what you want like no I'm

only hanging out of strangers because you literally ignore me like no no no that's just what you

you just said that I don't know I'm just letting you know how it is that's all okay Kyle let me know

how it is so then we go back upstairs and Weston bed are still talking and West is like I'm

gonna go check it back out wish me luck and then in the bathroom he goes you're a fucking done

ass bitch just oh yeah I'm a dumb ass bitch Kyle great and Weston Pinter in the hallway and

so she passes them and and they hear that obviously and she's like yeah I'm just in dumb ass bitch

I got I guess I'll go make some soda water I'm fine guys whatever and he's in there alone now

in the bathroom alone just going you ignoring me all that long with their friends you

prefer friends over me shit I prefer the friends over you you're an ass yeah and again like your

argument falls apart because you go out across the country DJing and you have a man that you're

saying like it's like I support you DJing but then you don't even come home you go out to like

four in the morning and that's and even before the DJing even happened the ongoing thing is that

you go get drunk until four in the morning and now he's going to complain that she prefers being

with other people over him when he's been doing that to her for years so Ben goes into I guess work

the soda stream with Amanda or something is it a soda stream they're working

well they just gonna make soda but it didn't look like a soda stream there's some contraption

of some weird late night you know carbonated experience that we're having so Ben's like well

I've known him for a year we've hung out at brunch I've never seen anything I mean this side of

him caught I've never seen that I know he's stressed with love a boy and I think sometimes Amanda

just likes to push his buttons and that keeps building to a tipping point and then there's a blood

excuse you excuse you sir you know and then we see a montage of Amanda like pushing his

buttons and then he shout out Kyle you know and as Amanda said she's never perfect blah blah blah

she didn't do any of that today and even if she did nothing excuses this that makes me crazy

yeah Ben said this I don't like that he said this like she just like until he explodes like

what the fuck but he does like it with you know nothing I've seen warrants a blow up like that

yeah and again I mean I they again they have a toxic way of communicating like he I feel like

is ignores her or he gets drunk and he is really obnoxious and then her way of responding is

that she takes these little digs at him you know and that does happen but that's almost immaterial

in this situation because this was unprovoked completely unprovoked and it was just awful it's

just a terrible thing to say to you know your life partner so Ben's like didn't worry wrists

I'm gonna go here for talk with him and I'll say listen Kyle I understand things are difficult

with you and Amanda and if you'd like I'll take it off your hands and then maybe the two of us

can just spend the rest of the summer skinny dipping in the pool up back what do you say bro

so West is talking to Kyle and Kyle's like she's been more time with you than me in the last

six months Kyle you haven't been home for six months yeah yeah what does she even what does he

even talking about and so the kitchen Amanda's just gonna go to bed and then West is still trying

to talk to Kyle which is pointless you know you can't talk to Kyle when he's like this just wait

till the next day when he sober because this is stupid you can't talk to a drunk person and West

is like yeah but tonight we're at the bar and he's like oh yeah there's always like a fucking

fuck you Kyle so I said it and goes no you said fuck you to her and she's like no I said fuck you

back nobody she didn't say fuck you to you it's always a fuck you Kyle no oh this is in your

head Kyle she said with her eyes he hates me and he hates me she doesn't talk to me I'll sleep in

another bed I don't give a fuck if you all don't fucking see the fact that she fucking hates me then

I'm sorry then I'm like I don't know I'm blind I'm sorry West is like well don't apologize to me

I'm just telling you that that shit's not gonna help he's like I just I give up oh yeah she

vulgarates me and by the way during all this time Amanda like they're talking in the bathroom

and Amanda's back in her bed so she can hear all of this shit yeah and if Amanda does hate you

I hate you at this point like what's wrong with you like I wouldn't blame I don't blame her for

hating you Jesus if this is just what you show on TV what do you like when the cameras aren't there

you know absolutely so West leaves the bathroom and um he goes in to say I love you to Amanda

and she think I'm sorry and we still hear Kyle in the bathroom like he fucking hates me he fucking

hates me he's like making out with his JBL speaker like me at least have you I'll play Robin again

yeah I'm so fucking over this shit well now guess what a Saturday morning it's 855 in the morning

everyone's waking up and it's like last night never even happened Lindsey FaceTime's Gemma

and then Kyle is on his phone in bed while Amanda sleeps and then Kyle tells us

there's no excuse to you know drop the F bomb and say F you to your wife but I'm only human

I'll make one I go that's my kid to make it here's the excuse here's no excuse but why

I give it a cause try I can only go so long getting the cold shoulder you know getting them small

but steady jabs I used to think it was all my head until I've watched some of these summers back

and then we have a flashback to um you know and a nice healthy montage of Amanda

sitting on Kyle for sure so he's like yeah man it's hard it's hard for me man

yeah he's like yeah but now I pick up on these jabs in real time it doesn't even matter for

having a good night it's so good jab it's just been piling up and piling up who does this sound like

exactly like Craig from Southern exactly it's the same things but they keep poking me

they just keep poking me poking the bear and it piles up and it piles up and then I explode it's not

my fault it's everybody else all the time and the fact that you could watch summer house seasons back

and come away with everything as Amanda's fault is crazy like yeah that's the thing that shows zero

self-awareness yeah absolutely and so causing I mean it's one thing if you're in a funk but if you're

having a blast with everybody but me it's just sad so then Jesse thinks are nicer and Jesse

in Westroom Jesse's like love y'all it's like I love you too that's it and then we go to the

kitchen and KJ is texting Darra because she's coming in today for the party and he's like hey can't

wait to see you the vibes are excitement are you on your way and Darra's like yeah see you soon

I'm Darra and then I'm gonna bully you put in a fun way so then we go to Jesse and

Carl in Amanda's room and they're gonna go workout the boys are gonna go workout and Jesse's like

good morning pineapple and she laughs and Carl goes wait that's all you have to do to make her smile

and more and I just got fuck you eyes I just got fuck you eyes Benedict hey look at me it's Carl

now that I'm on the first floor I can walk into this room also I do a fun little dance I'm in the

mix hall afterwards we can go to common ground I'll do this dance from many more people

so the guys go to the gym and then me and Sierra talking in their bed about the conversation at last

at the last dinner about you know living as a black person on reality TV and she's like you

know I'm really happy you brought that conversation up you know it was needed how do you feel

and Sierra's like I'm surprised it in Kremor um you know she talks about how she gets uh

no we saw the flashback to the conversation and me is like you know I appreciate everybody in the

house just letting you talk and holding space for the conversation and not interjecting and saying

like oh I know what that feels like you know because you don't just actually just pretty impressive

if you think about it for a reality has to be able to just sit there and listen and not be like

yeah I understand what it's like is you know a lot of times people leave me mean comments about

DJing too like a man not man to death it we call those impressions a lot of blowback when you're

a DJ people just don't understand don't understand what you're up to you know I had to have a conversation

when I was younger the conversation was sometimes they'll come a day when you will be

DJing and people walk out of the room and you have to be okay with it's tough time for me as well

Sierra um so Sierra is like to me as saying like yeah we can sit here and be like this conversation

is going to change the way we look at things and not it you know and everyone else's world but it's

not and so me as like me a basic they're just me is just very appreciative that Sierra

broached this conversation so it's nice like follow up conversation about the conversation

and um and they're just happy that at least that they know they're like well we we're not going

to necessarily change the world with that conversation we but like it's just nice to know that the

people that we live with can understand our experience yeah so then outside um Amanda and Lindsay

are in the outside Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen KJ swimming and Amanda and Lindsay are

in the kitchen talking and um they're talking about how Lindsay got her sweatpants from Amanda

and they're like such good friends now they can't believe it and Amanda's like yeah I'm like what

about you and Carl last night that was fun and then we see Lindsay being like yeah well I said

you should ain't Carl like you may not ever fuck you but like at least you can have a conversation

with you see I'm nice I love every time you say see I'm nice like oh she is like that's my friend

she's so nice Lindsay's like uh uh uh uh well how was the rest of your night did anything fun

and she's like uh and then we go back up to Sierra's room and me as like you know we had such a

long day yesterday like I left the hot tub I don't even know who went upstairs with me but like I

literally just left you guys because I was so tired like who's downstairs what happened and then

we go back down to Amanda and Lindsay yeah she's like you didn't hear any of it oh my god I don't

even know what happened Carl was just being mean like he was like calling me names and throwing a

hissy fit West tried to talk to him I'm what was he throwing a hissy even I mean I don't even know

he was just like upset I'm not hanging out with him and then oh my god not quite like three times

I don't even know the last time I cried and Lindsay goes nah damn it Carl but she's like smiling

still which is weird and then Amanda is just saying like you know he's going through his own shit

it's not an excuse I didn't treat him like shit when I was depressed you know and we're going

through whatever I was going through and then upstairs here is like yeah I'm so over the way

he speaks to her like my gut reaction is you cannot have kids with him yeah here is like end the

bloodline don't go for don't go any farther don't get more involved in this don't throw good money

after bad like I mean if you trust you like this he's going to be like this with the kids like he'll

be a big big kids you know and so be competitive with a child by the way he will 100% lose his mind

once there's a baby in the picture yeah another baby I should say as they often do we see it happen

over and over again um yeah I'm a term end with the baby baby baby can DJ but I can't

the baby is just like pressing right miss on the car stereo baby DJing

well cool Amanda so me as a baby baby bitch

bitch yeah it's like what do you think is keeping them together and she goes bitch I don't know

so the Amanda saying well it's his birthday party today so we're gonna make it a great day smiles

all around yeah like legitimately you're like so good at compartmentalizing like that it's like

a legit compliment that is by coming from Lindsay that's a massive compliment Lindsay's like

a bento box so when she's like you're such a good job compartmentalizing I gotta learn

a thing or two then you know you're really on some shit Lindsay's like a silverware drawer

that bitch compartmentalizes okay she's like she's like I'm like a modular system from like you

um yeah so if she's saying that you're good at it then whoa yeah that's a high compliment

so Amanda's saying well you know I have to I just I guess I'm just excited to see what he looks

like old it's just I'm yeah then you should be like the hot one like you shouldn't even cut down

an age make um I love being an old woman let's guess I know no it just suits me I'm do pretend like

I don't feel like that was an insult but um I want to wear a night gown socks at the club every

night so 1119 I am you guys are trying from the gym Carl's been training for a marathon

god's hall marathon um people KJ brings in some groceries they fall all over the floor he's like

of course thank god the eggs are rubber banded oh everyone's having a pool morning and Amanda

just keeps going out there going going out there saying guys I need help with decorations because

there's a lot of stuff to bring in and they just kind of look at her and then jump in the pool

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so in the kitchen Lindsay's talking to KJ and they're talking about Dara and he's like

oh man she's coming but I'm like kind of in my head right now you are yeah but like it's fine

wait why are you in your head like are you are you like nervous about everyone in the house like

knowing about your relationship and trying to cause problems in your relationship because that

would be terrible if if that happens you know because like do you really like her or like it

just she says she likes you where you like her oh my god you guys said that already he's like yeah

it's like mutual um yeah because I know that Ben and her we're kind of flirting so what happened

with that I would hate for people to be messy in your relationship so yeah everyone is like talking

about that but like it's like literally it was like nothing to her she was just like flirting

because like she's like yeah he's a fun person to flirt with oh is that like so what did that talk

what what are they what were they doing talking in his room for an hour he's like wait what like

Lindsay just drops the bombs Lindsay's just such an effortless reality TV pro at this point

it's like pretending to be like all supportive and connected with KJ and she's like so why was

that on talk with Ben in his room privately behind a door for an hour do you talk about that he's like

I'm here every other week and you're too happy um I don't know you very well but here's what I do

know you're way too happy to be on the show so let me fuck this up right now for you let me crush

you you young man and he's like what but I'm like emo and sensitive why are you doing this to me

I'm going to destroy you under the power of my reality TV spells oh my god look at your heart

breaking that's so sweet oh my god can I just say one thing oh um so according to Bailey like

there went into Ben's room and then we're there for like an hour and then we see a flashback

to Lindsay Levi and Bailey having lunch and Bailey being like um yeah she literally

wedded Ben's Rubik what outfit and came out and other and I was like I mean she went in

in her costume and she came out in a different outfit that's what I saw

Levi's like well it could be harmless blah blah blah blah it wasn't harmless I could tell there

was a sweet green bowl and there when there's a sweet green bowl shickles down okay it's a different

person by the way I love the idea that um Bailey saw someone go into a room close the door

they went in in a costume and came out not in a costume hmm I theorized that might be a crazy

concept called getting out of your costume it's crazy well you know that kink where your dress

like a pirate but then you fuck somebody and you're no longer dressed like a pirate it's crazy

okay just like oh I didn't know anything about like the room thing oh god I'm already nervous oh my

god I'm so sorry I'm so sorry what's your name again she doesn't even know who KJ is

she's like who is this guy you know she's like whatever I'm just gonna fuck shit up for him

she's like oh that's kind of weird though oh well then now you're gonna be in your head about it

sorry so then today goes on and people are still trying to get set up and um I'm

at us still doing everything by us we just see him at a carrying things through the front door

and like filling the pool with these blow up pills which I guess is a sponsor whatever they

whatever they think it's just because they're supposed to be old people so it's like the

the medication that old people have to take yeah so Lindsay come oh I thought they were like those

uh pills you get in the 7-11 they're like yeah maximum strength dickie you know dick explode or

whatever so um Lindsay and Sierra see each other and Lindsay's wearing a zebra outfit and she's

like um yeah I wore this to fuck with Carl just getting I'm totally just getting but I'm not

really kidding and Sierra's like oh my god zebra that's like a distant memory I forgot about

and we see a flashback to three summers ago with Lindsay being like Carl really mine zebra

he has a thing with stripes right like he loves tan lines he loves zebra like he's really

doing so if I see if I go into a lady foot locker oh so um yeah the big zebra those fake animals

they brought in that's like the cardboard cutouts of that year oh I hated those those last

have for so many years I think they got those in season two like off the side of the road at

like some antique shop and then they kept them around for years and years uh Wesley stripes I'll

never forget so um uh yeah and we see footage of Wesley stripes and Carl bring the fake zebra

into the house but whoa we've got it this is gonna be careful no break on he's got stripes so hot

oh I love the stripes oh um so uh back to present Sierra's like um by the way I do remember like

being really like I was really stuck on this thing for a month like Carl like zebra

it was like messing it's like rocking Sierra's world for a month which was like wow so much going

on in the world but Carl like zebra that's the one thing I can't make sense of yeah so in the back

Carl sees KJ and he's like oh how we doing bro how we doing we in the mix he's like uh I'm all right

are you a little stressed I sense it I sense it little brother come on sit down tell me tell

talk Carl where he's dressed yeah you know it's just like challenging because I just heard some

shit bro I like heard some shit like through word of mouth like whenever Darra was here she was

just like in Ben's room for like an hour some shit yeah well I think though what you're

gonna discover a little bit and Carl's gone through this a lot uh me as well at times is that when

there's two people in the house that have an interest in each other it becomes fodder and bigger

for the house the whole house to discuss also when there's one person the house and they just have

an interest not necessarily in someone else but perhaps in I don't know brick and mortar that

also becomes fodder for the whole house hall and I think it's just hard especially because

well which I don't like to say that because I'm more of a soft guy but it is hard especially when

you know you're new and trying to get to know her so oh feeling bad yeah like if you think you're

gonna be in this house and stick your penis inside a wooden zebra's nostril and knock it called

out on it you're in the wrong house this warning you hall um it's okay just like yeah I'm already

like I've already anxious about Darra coming to the house and like making sure she's having a good

time and feels like included and then I'm being reminded of this party that I already felt jealous

of Ben because I like Darra and I'm just like and I like her now and like I've said like I'm a

very honest person and if she wasn't being honest about that then like what are you hiding?

I'm like okay okay you're adorable but like you got her like don't worry like I think everything's

okay the insecurity I can't like you're a model you are a models or I'm only here from you

he's like what life that model more than me like you're both models you would think that I would

love model insecurity but it's it's making me crazy I'm like sitting here like playing with

my muffin top like I wonder if this lever go away or if I have to get this cut off and then I've

got 20 pack up there like I'm so insecure I can't take it so they're talking about her coming

and Kyle is like just Kyle's there now he's like oh he's like yeah he's just coming here though

right he's just tuned it out just tune it just ignore it didn't happen I'm happy it didn't give

you fuck you fuck you eyes just keep telling you something all day so then at the pool chair's

band is sitting there with Jesse and West and he's like so did you hear a bit less noise activities

after you left it's like oh yeah the West was saying that it got pretty perturbed when he came

upstairs no no saying I got the soda machine to work mids and sweet sweet salsa what are you talking

about I like he says perturbed and West goes whoa that's a big word and then we see footage

of him being perturbed so then meanwhile back to president Sierra walks up to the chairs he sits

that she sits down with the guys and she's like idiots he's like idiots what's that so they're

talking about last night and West says you know I told him he has to apologize and he was saying

that she gave me fuck you eyes and Sierra's like are you being serious he's like yeah I swear and

I was like dude what the fuck we're just like sitting there and then Amanda comes out that guys

are still tons of decorations out fresh like got stuff on her back in her arms

on oh sorry we can't help you we're just talking about the destruction of your marriage and

we how you should never have babies with this man and probably should divorce and okay good luck

with that palm tree we're all talking about how poorly we feel for you but nobody's gonna

lift a finger to help you on this really rough day for you okay get to it Amanda Jesus

did you just give me fuck you eyes because all cakes up bitches that's right now

just is like has anybody talked to him about it today do we know if he remembers West is like

um I was like teetering on the line of being should we fucking ask him if he even has a

fucking clue and she was like not today like for his birthday just like leave it alone and I just

got like scared because it's like a confrontation so I decided to come sometimes to

it's like I feel like he was actually gonna do this like no you were never gonna do this you're

just gonna swim around and loaf and relax by the pool yeah and so Sierra's like yeah um yeah

I don't know how she does that because if I'm pissed everybody knows and West goes yeah we know

no start laughing she's like yeah there's no gray area so meanwhile Amanda's like guys

please can anybody help me I don't know they help me please I can't whatever Amanda okay okay

Amanda can talk with that caught poor Amanda am I right guys poor Amanda and I don't know if

it was happening at this specific moment or like a few beats from now she at one point she just

has this tree and she's just trying to set up this tree and the palm fronts keep slapping on the

face and I was like this is the metaphor and she's like she's saying everything's fine guys everything's

fine that's because they continue to talk about Amanda and whenever they're like poor Amanda and it

just cuts to Amanda being poked in the eye with the tree and then she like literally just stands

there like with the tree still poked in her eye and she's like no no it actually helps her no

it actually helps her she also doesn't get the fuck away from the tree I have to point out

which is like you know wait for the tree Amanda Jesus I can change the tree I know I can fix the tree

now fix it so Ben tells the tree just needs to feel supported guys so Ben is talking to them

still the guys and Sierra and he's like yeah you know I had a chat with him armed with to love a

boy to check it out and I didn't realize this but he's personally on the hook for love a boy

millions of dollars so apparently Kyle guaranteed a four million dollar loan back when lover

boy was doing well and was still going up and there's still two million owed more than two

million owed on this debt so if lover boy takes and he's bankrupt and he lost everything to which I

say why would you do a personal loan on like that's not my fault what'd you do that yeah it's a

stupid decision that is absolutely idiotic so I get that that would stress you out and I feel

for you because it's too expensive lover boy is too expensive and I don't know do you ever see

anybody drinking lover boy because I feel like it should be it has enough press that it should be

like a huge thing I guess what's weird to me is how is that that like you know 15 years later

somehow black water still exists and I see it in stores I see it everywhere how is it that that

is like thriving how is it that poppy the soda that those two people on a house hunters made

that they like brought to Whole Foods and they brought to a convention and then they bought a house

on house and then they stole that for like two billion dollars like that's doing well I guess I'm

just saying I've answered I mean look the black water a was something that was marketed as health

right because it's like the things that are in black while whatever it is the alkaline or whatever

it is that's why it's black and it's kind of a health thing also those guys sold it right away

I mean they had black water they sold it to a huge company that's why it's still huge because they've

got the huge company marketing it then you've got poppy and I think poppy did well because it was

another health thing it was like a probiotic soda it was like you can drink soda but you also

get all these health benefits lover boy is drinking an alcohol when that's kind of going down in the

world and there's also it's also so oversaturated with that stuff it's like like claw and all that

stuff and also like sometimes those I don't I don't know what the status is of alcoholic

seltzers and spritzes and whatever but like I you know drinking fads come and go I mean sweet

tea vodka hello I just love my sweet tea vodka oh that was the best with like some lemonade

the best and like this is the best thing that's ever happened to alcohol I will never abandon it

and the next thing you know it's gone Mike's hard lemonade or like you know hard lemonade's here

and then gone so like I don't know where the seltzer train is these days but like if the fad is

receding that probably is also part of it because as you wisely mentioned those those beverages

first of all sodas or they're non alcoholic and they're tied to health but like it just seems

to me that Kyle has like a lot of it's been able to give this brand a huge amount of press and we

all know about lover boy we all know what lover boy is it's at all these events that he does

and like the fact that it's tanking which is by the way it's great for business to announce

like multiple times on your show that your business is totally tanking what went wrong here how

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