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Married to Medicine ends its reunion by letting the men squabble. Meh. Eugene is called out for being one of the women and Steve still refuses to pay for a Med Gala ticket. The women repeat their arguments from last week and then tell us all how inspirational they are. This could have been a one part reunion, but we’ll take all the Heavenly we can get before she becomes President and we never get to hear her call Eugene’s penis small again. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening,, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.
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Hello and welcome to Watch What Corroppans.
I'm Ronnie. That's been Hello Ben.
How you doing?
I am great. Thank you. How are you doing?
Good. How did nice weekend.
I've played some sack boy with my nieces.
Went to dinner with my family.
Some big family time over here in Texas. What'd you do?
I played a bunch of board games and I cooked some food and I spent like yesterday
traveling around East Hollywood, going to a million different supermarkets.
I got caught up in it. I was like, well, I'm so close to the Armenian market.
I might as well pop in there.
Well, I'm so close to the time market and now I might as well go there.
Well, I'm so close to the Indian market.
I might as well go there. I spent all this so much time just getting random
ingredients and I had the best time.
So I'm probably going to drop any.
So what do you do when you go to that many stores?
You just have a ton of food now that's going to go to waste in your house.
It's just like random condiments and things like that.
Like there was this.
I was thinking about making a Thai thing and I was like,
oh, but I don't have that. I'm out of fish sauce.
I was like, well, no, I can get my fish sauce.
I was thinking about making an Indian thing and I was like, oh,
but I don't have mustard oil.
Like, oh, but no, I can get mustard oil.
Oh, I was thinking about making this sweet potato thing,
but it involves like a Turkish tomato paste.
That's like, oh, but no, I can get it.
So, you know, just a lot of condiments and a jar.
That's just my time.
A lot of jars.
Jarring weekend. It was a jarring weekend for you.
So that's good.
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Yeah, it's married to medicine day.
There has been some stuff going on in the bravo world.
We should probably discuss because it went crazy over the weekend.
And that is the rumors that Amanda and West
from summer house are hooking up.
You've heard this, obviously.
This has been going on for a while, eh?
Yeah, I've sure have.
Wouldn't we ever at South by Southwest,
the rumor was going around a lot.
And I only mentioned that because we were at a lot of parties,
where people were talking about it.
And someone in our little circle,
probably won't say her name,
because she probably won't appreciate that.
But she said, these rumors are confirmed.
I know for a fact that West and Amanda are hooking up.
I'm not saying anything because, you know,
old Quinn and Abar news isn't always true.
And I just didn't believe it.
I just didn't believe it.
And I was like, I'm not going to play into this.
It's probably a joke.
Amanda has been known to, you know,
lead us on in social media and not tell us the truth
until she's ready, which is her right.
But I just don't believe anything these people say.
But apparently, it's looking more and more true.
And the world has gone crazy.
The world has been lit on fire.
Amanda is being chased down streets
and pushed down subway steps, I would imagine.
But yeah, the rumors that they're hooking up.
And this started again last week when Amanda
and Sierra were supposed to do an Amazon live together
and didn't.
And everyone was like, what?
If you don't show up to your Amazon live together,
that means you hate each other,
which it would in our case.
I mean, if you decided to do a separate Amazon live
for me, I'd be pissed.
I think that would definitely be really awkward
for all of our listeners if we like
appear in separate Amazon lives.
By the way, we're on Amazon live today.
Yeah, and then there was all this stuff.
The internet sleuth starts sleuthing.
It's like West has the same sweatshirt as Amanda.
Is it where it did Amanda take West sweatshirt?
What happened?
Amanda had a dab and his hat.
And Amanda dabbed something off of his cheek.
What's going on with that?
And then the big thing that really
set made things go nuts is that Lindsay Hubbard
out of nowhere posted a screenshot of herself
over the weekend going like this.
And everyone was like, what?
Why would Lindsay just post that?
And then it was like, then she posted a picture of her
with Sierra hugging Sierra tightly.
And then there was a story with like Austin.
And he posted something about like
your friend's ex.
It's a plate of pasta.
It's like plates of pasta.
They're having dinner.
And it just said, apparently pasta and
fucking your ex's, fucking your best friend,
exes are back in.
And the lips kept moving on the post.
Yeah.
Now there's also some extra or an extra wrinkle there
because was he talking about Sally?
Because there's rumors of Kyle and Sally doing something.
So I don't know.
But now everyone is thinks that this is all coated.
And then Kyle, I mean, Carl posted a screenshot of himself.
He was like, oh, so now Carl's doing that.
That's a famous picture.
That's a famous screenshot of Carl where he's just looking confused.
They posted on every summer house.
It's just Carl like, oh, so he posted that.
They're like, oh my god, Carl confirmed it.
And then they posted a KJ posted a picture of him looking
like confused.
They're like, oh my god, KJ, KJ to the two.
And then he was posted.
Someone else posted a picture of them looking confused.
Two judgey girls posted.
Wow, everybody's so worried about
Sarah's feelings in this.
But no one has said, gee, how is Kyle going to feel?
And then Kyle posted under like a crying face.
Am I going?
Yeah, that's right.
He also posted something in support of Amanda,
where he was like watching the episode back.
Because it's just like terrible.
I know I should be doing it that way.
But I think that was neither here nor there.
So I know that was just clean up after his own
bad behavior on that episode.
There's suspicion that the cast is just trolling the audience.
But I will say, you know, let's never forget.
Lindsay has never truly liked Amanda.
People, you know, a lot of people
don't go all the way back with summer house.
But we remember season two.
Was it season two?
Where Lindsay excised Amanda from a photo,
a group photo in Kyle wrote a 19-page manifesto in response.
Was that season three or season two?
Like two or three house.
It was an early season, but like Lindsay
cut Amanda out of the group photo.
So by all accounts, they seem fine.
But Lindsay sort of like embracing Sierra
on her IG story when all this stuff is going on.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't think it's a joke at this point.
Because people really probably are pushing Amanda
down subway stairs or like throwing cans at her head.
You know, like people, the bravo audience,
if they hate you, especially for something like this.
I mean, they're not going to be calm.
I wouldn't post this as a joke.
And otherwise, especially if you're like the prone to depression.
Because this is not ever going to make you feel that.
I don't think Amanda would agree to like joke around about this.
But I don't know.
Because she is.
They're all doing a lot of, you know,
influencing and stuff like that right now.
And it'll be like a post comes out.
And then Samantha doing an influencing post
for Buffalo Wild Bills.
Or what does that called Buffalo Bills?
Buffalo Wild Wings.
We totally believe that Amanda's eating at the Buffalo Wild Wings.
Why is it supposed to believe that?
So she's doing that.
And so people are like, well, maybe they're just doing it for the money.
But I don't know.
Is it terrible to say that it doesn't, I don't really care if Amanda
and West made out?
Well, I, um, I just, I want better for her.
If she's going to get into a scandal with anyone,
like, just why not?
Why West?
Why West?
And also, I feel like there's been so much attention
being put on Amanda, like, oh my god, what a bitch.
Which is, it's bad.
It's bad for many different reasons.
But also like, if it's, if it, if this is true,
let's also like reserve some heat for West
to we are, we watched half a season of him on summer house,
completely, you know, moping around.
Actually, it was all last season moping.
And then this season, like, I think she likes me.
I think I'm in love with her.
You know, and if, if, if we, you know,
if we know that he is actually having some sort of affair
with Amanda this whole time,
then, like, really, I've had enough with him.
Yeah, because he's obviously just using that
for a storyline this season.
Like, I'm so hard-broken with Sierra.
Meanwhile, he liked Amanda that whole time.
Yeah, it's pretty gross.
And, and, you know, he is a down, a downgrade from Kyle.
I know Kyle makes everybody crazy,
but, you know, Kyle becoming a DJ,
we're giving Kyle so much shit for that.
But that's his second job.
Like, he also is running this company into the ground,
but still running a company.
And, you know, that's like his second job.
West, if West became a DJ, we'd be like,
oh, my God, West has a job.
Like, we deploy, you know?
So he's a downgrade.
And I really hope this isn't true,
but it's looking true.
So, I don't know, wow.
Yeah, well, we will be tracking this story, everyone.
Don't you worry, we'll be on top of it,
and we'll have all the late breaking news
on this potential, you know,
Scandival level summer house issue, summer ball.
I think it's Scandival level, but they're trying to.
They're trying to make it.
I think it's, it's not Scandival level,
because it's having a slow simmer to a boil
as opposed to Scandival, which like dropped like a bomb, you know?
And so I think it was like,
the suddenness of that was crazy.
And it wasn't cheating.
Scandival was cheating.
I mean, that was like a 10-year relationship.
He was cheating with the best friend and stuff.
This wasn't that.
They're like separated and whatever.
And it's West.
It would be a mandival, right?
A mandival.
This is what Scand, Scam...
Well, we already have Scamanda.
Scandal, Scandal house.
Scammer house.
All right, well, enough of that.
Let's get on to, oh, I open notes for Survivor.
This week's bonus episode is going to be a Survivor Recap Haller.
Okay, so the wrong notes.
Let me open Mary to Medicine.
Season 12, episode 16.
Reunion part two.
I'll just start by saying this could have been on one part reunion.
You know, they had a super sized reunion last week.
They could have just ended it.
That's all I needed.
I didn't need this.
How about you?
Or it could have been a two part one with one that's not super sized.
I don't know.
I mean, I enjoyed that.
I enjoyed the husband's
chopping it up a little bit more than I thought I would.
I feel like they've basically been biting their tongues for 12 years.
And finally, they've had enough.
You know, Eugene was like,
we've been here for 12 years.
There's never been this drama.
It's like because they've all just...
It's been building up.
It's 12 years building up.
And everyone's like sick of Eugene, you know?
But like, by and large, yes.
Maybe we could have edited it out some other segments that were not as good.
There was a lot of retreads.
It was just a lot of things that they already talked about last week
that they're trying to keep it going for another episode.
You had a super sized...
Was this super sized too?
No, it wasn't.
So they had a super sized one last week.
So at least cut out half and put it on this week and have a two part.
I mean, I don't know.
But it was like a bunch of talking about the same shit.
But anyway, it's always enjoyable because it's these ladies.
So it's always laugh.
But I was like, all right, wrap it up.
Wrap it up, guys.
Get up.
So we ended last week with someone crying.
And Jackie come to sit, coming to sit right by her.
And being like, tell me, tell me Simone, what can I do?
And Simone being like, I will not fall, move forward, never, ever.
Not gonna not shine.
I wonder what she was saying.
I will not.
And when we finished that episode, you said until five minutes
when she will forgive her and it'll all be over.
And I laughed, you know.
But you were not exaggerating.
It was literally, it was less.
It was one...
I was actually, I was exaggerating.
Five minutes was too generous.
It was literally 30 seconds.
Because as it turns out, the thing that they've been promoting,
which is we are never getting back together, Taylor Swift.
We are never.
It is weak.
I'm not, I cannot move.
There is no moving forward, Jackie.
And then when we come back and it's like, and he's like,
what did you mean you can't move forward with heavenly?
I was like, oh, come on.
Oh, with you, I'm fine.
Yeah, but with Jackie, I'm fine with Jackie.
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine.
I can't move forward with the narrative
that I am aggressive and I'm unhinged in pushing people.
Okay, can you move forward with Jackie?
And she's like, oh, yeah, Jackie, yeah, yeah, you know.
But not if you can't take a stance on right and wrong.
Okay.
And you saw the footage.
And I have a lady's like, but she did take a stance.
She did take a stance underneath.
She's not heavenly still trying to make a point over there.
So Simone's like, Jackie.
I want you to tell me what the footage show.
Did I push heavenly like she's alleging?
And she's like, and the answer is,
no, you have not.
You did not push her.
I want to take a, a kind of building for what she did.
They'll scream at me.
That's uncalled for.
She's screaming at me.
Jackie's like, but you did not push heavenly.
Thank you.
All right.
That's all she did over here.
No, no, no, but she didn't hear some more.
She didn't, don't you need to hear more shit?
Jackie's like, are you not threatening
that you are not threatening to anybody?
Not even a flea.
Okay, I am on the record.
And she smells like, I may be shady though.
And then they're smiling and laughing.
And Jackie's like, I'm going to hug you.
She's like, oh, you're going to ask for permission to touch me.
You've never had to do that before.
Shut up.
And then they hug and it's all resolved.
Yeah, and everyone's like, oh my gosh.
And Jackie says, well, you should not have been followed me.
That was Simone.
And she goes, that's true.
I didn't have Simone.
Get your phone out and follow Jackie back.
We are inspirational women.
We are women who are there for each other
through thick and thin through follows through unfalows.
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All right, well first of all, round of applause,
I feel healed, I feel healed.
You worked in Miracle today, Andy.
Praise him.
I don't know, I didn't work any miracle.
Jessica, did you just say praise him?
Yes, I did.
I'm praising him.
Now, the rest of the ladies have seen the footage.
Do you agree that Simone did not push or get physical?
And they all agree, and they go around the whole circle.
It's like, hi, Quad.
Hi, Contessa.
Hi, Mimi.
It's literally every person.
Contessa, what did you think?
Mimi, what did you think?
What did you think?
What did you think?
And they all say no.
And Contessa is like, yeah, you know,
heavenly, every time you start stuff,
you literally go for security every single time.
And she goes, no, not for you,
that's for you, that's for you, that's for security.
That's for you.
Not one of the person I'll use security on,
but I will use it for you.
She said, well, you use these trigger words
that we're talking about.
Like, you're unhinged, I'm saying, what is this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Goodness, I never said threatened.
I said, I said she was fault, so that's all.
So now we cut to the man in the backroom.
And Scott's like, okay, the ladies are looking good so far.
And Curtis goes, hey, be careful.
How are you talk about my wife?
The only lady on the screen was my wife.
And he's got something to say.
They're like ribbing each other, you know,
because Scott's saying that like, oh,
and you know, like, oh, it was Jackie's fine.
Jackie's fine.
So they're going back and forth.
And seems like things are a common backstage
compared to the tension that happened earlier.
And then Curtis jumps in.
And he's like, Eugene, Eugene, please hear me.
You know, in the group we've talked about
not getting ourselves caught up in the stuff
that our wives do.
But Toria has perpetuated this lie out there.
And Eugene's like, what lie?
What lie?
What lie does she perpetuate?
And he says, well, she got on national TV
and said that I put on my hands on her
and I put hands on other women.
Dun, dun, dun.
So we see that clip from, watch what happens live.
And Curtis is like, well, she said that other women told her that.
And so Curtis is like, well, you speak to what your wife says
because you're always agreeing with her.
And he goes, well, oh, well, I don't know what they told her.
It's like, why do you agree to it if you don't know?
Because my wife has said that you pulled her.
And then Steve is like, what's so funny is that Steve has his little finger.
And he's like, wagging his finger the whole episode.
He's going, he always pulls that out.
This little finger.
And he's like, because it's convenient.
Because it's convenient and Curtis is like, yeah,
you sat there and you supported.
You supported her, Eugene.
And she's like, because it's convenient.
Because it's convenient.
And Eugene's like, I do support her.
She's my wife.
It's like, well, you sat there and you support her for that lie.
You support her.
It's convenient.
It's convenient.
Call him in 7-Eleven.
It is convenient.
It is convenient.
And so Eugene's like, well, what's the lie then?
What's the lie?
Well, the lie is that I put my hands on different women.
And Eugene goes, well, too, I think goes, did I touch your wife?
Yes, I did.
Okay.
Well, Eugene's like, thank you.
Thank you for finally acknowledging
what was blamely on TV.
And so Cecil's like, hey, guys, I think we missed some other shit
that's happening on TV.
I was like, shut up, Cecil.
They were finally getting somewhere.
Not really, because Curtis is just going to always come in
with some bullshit that he's guilty of.
That's the thing.
Like Curtis, just be quiet.
Curtis is not the messenger to bring the message,
but it's not you.
You are not the messenger, sir.
Yeah.
So we go back.
And Heavenly is like, yes, you are strong.
You are strong, Contessa.
And she says, well, based on what you went through.
And she says, oh, this one here, this one here.
I will whip her.
I will crap her about this road.
I'm not afraid of Simone, but I'm afraid of you bitch.
And Contessa is like, oh, wait, he goes, wait, wait.
Can I just say something?
Look, let me just say something.
It's not the greatest look to say you felt physically threatened
by her.
And then to say, I'm going to rip your throat out.
No, I said I was going to whip her ass, Andy.
That's what I said.
I'm not going to rip her throat out.
I'm going to whip her ass.
OK, whip her ass.
And Brandy's like, that's unhinged.
It's like, well, let's talk about the beginning.
Fred, what's your name?
We need to go back.
Andy, is that your name?
Fred Frank.
Frank.
What's your name?
Praise me.
Andy does that.
Andy does that thing where he waxes his head and looks like confused.
OK, whatever my name is, I'm only running this show.
God.
You know that Andy doesn't like having his name being, um, for God.
And I mean, just look at his response to Sarah Michelle Geller last week, which is another
thing that was, that was a big thing.
You saw that, right?
Um, I saw that he was offended or whatever, but I didn't, I didn't read much about it.
Tell me.
Yeah, he was, because Sarah Michelle Geller went off about how Beverly Hills was just
like so lame this season.
And then Andy was on his radio show.
It was like, she came into like radio, just a radio Andy sign right behind and like,
that's my show.
And like, I love this season.
She's like, he is, he is standing two feet down that Beverly Hills is having a tremendous
season.
No one else agrees.
And he got really mad at Sarah Michelle Geller.
So I think that they're beefing right now.
Oh, Lord.
Andy, get over it.
Beverly Hills sucks.
This year, everybody agrees that like nine out of 10 dentists agree that Beverly is
boring.
You spoke this year.
Come on.
Don't take it out on Buffy.
OK.
Yeah.
And don't, don't have people on just because they're in your house.
Doesn't mean they have to agree with everything.
This isn't like a real housewives show.
Don't be mean to me, my own home.
Don't call me a weapon, my own home.
You're a wimp.
OK.
If you don't want me to call you a wimp, don't invite me over.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So Simone's like, she doesn't know your name, Andy, but she has your vote.
And Contessa says, well, let them know whose house it is, Andy's like, oh, work it
on it.
No, I did the right thing.
I removed myself and I was not going to come on that girl's trip.
And Brady's like, but you still came on the girl's trip.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
All right.
I want to switch gears.
OK.
I don't know.
Let's talk about teaching kids medical professional, blah, blah.
It's a medical professional montage of how, look at everybody working and doing great,
doing great work.
The unspoken rule of reunions is at the second segment.
They always have like a, OK, here it is.
The unspoken rule of reunions is that once they resolve the cliffhanger, the next segment
is the one that you can go to the bathroom on because it's always like the goofy segment
where it's just not about nothing.
It's like, OK, speaking of the light or no, let's see the funny things that happen when
you're teaching kids.
Like, OK, go into the kitchen to get a diet coke.
All right.
Well, great work, ladies.
So Ale from Hamburg, California says, I feel like social media has turned us into all
all into part-time doctors.
What health trend from social media makes you want to scream into the void because patients
keep trying it.
Jackie.
Jackie, come on now.
It's like, well, they don't want us to do certain things to the babies and they don't
want to take certain medicine because the TikTok trend says don't do this.
So we compete with TikTok all day long, Andy.
I can't tell you the last time I was able to deliver a baby without first throwing my
elbows to the right, throwing my elbows to the left, and twerking, Andy, it's just how
it is.
Do you know how difficult it is to deliver a baby while the mother is singing, yo, ho,
ho, hands?
They've just got to stop watching North Sea TikTok.
One patient didn't want a certain zodiac sign and refused to be delivered.
Blood pressure elevated 38 weeks.
She just did not want a Virgo, Andy.
And quiet, because they're just dumb.
Yeah, honestly, I can't imagine the doctors who have to deal with that bullshit.
That's like actually infuriating.
You go to medical school and you put in the hours in the residency, just have some ding
dong being like, I know I may die, but it's important for me not to have my baby during
this zodiac sign.
Oh, my God.
Well, yeah.
It's like TikTok videos, like I don't want you to do that because I saw in a TikTok
that you, you know, you're supposed to hold the baby this way.
I mean, people have just gotten so stupid.
I was watching this thing today, a TikTok probably about, and it was by teachers.
And it was all these teachers who were quitting across the country.
And they're like, I've just fucking had it, man.
I mean, these kids are idiots, and you can't tell them anything or you get kicked out
or you get reprimanded or something, and they're just like, I'm done.
Like, and people are just so stupid.
The stories are telling is like, okay, I tell them to open their books to page 14, and
then they all just stare at me.
And you've got 50 kids just staring at you like, huh, open your books, huh?
And then if you say anything, if you call the parents, they're just like, fuck you
and they hang up on you.
I don't know.
What do you do?
The world's just gotten too stupid.
Stay inside.
That's what I say.
Yeah.
Like, I'm sorry.
Like, I do hear those stories, and I hear the stories about how, yeah, I'd like the,
like the, it's like, you can't say anything to the child.
You can't, you can't reprimand.
It's like, oh my God, these poor teachers, these poor doctors, there's just stupidity
out there.
It's too, it's, it's too much to deal with.
Anyway, back to Bravo, which is not stupid at all.
Back to spending our lives talking about housewives.
I know.
Back to our work on a podcast called Watch Were Crappens.
Back to our super intelligent lifestyles.
So Andy asks some political stuff.
He's asking about DEI, the cuts and DEI, and the education department affecting doctors
of color.
And Simone's like, well, I wouldn't be here if I didn't get the Pell Grant and other
types of aid that didn't require me to pay it back.
And you know, they're, you know, they're talking about DEI and stuff.
And just as like, yeah, I mean, I needed it too.
Like you can get an acceptance letter, but what does that mean if you can't go to the
school, like if you can't afford to go?
You know, my dad was a truck driver.
My mom worked at the post office.
So where are we going to get 400 grand to put me through medical school?
Yeah.
And then quad points, points out that, that nurses are no longer deemed a medical
profession, which I did not know that.
And I mean, look, I don't, how was that even possible?
That's, that is wild.
Who, who deemed that?
That's absolutely absurd.
Okay.
If nurses, if nurses have to deal with that, is that a rhetorical question?
Who deemed that?
Who do you know?
Who deemed that?
Who deemed that?
Honestly, if these, who deemed that?
Who deemed that?
Honestly, if these nurses have to go around cleaning up the poop out of people's beds,
I think they are entitled to be called a medical profession.
I'm sorry, if they're taking my temperature, if they're taking my blood pressure, you,
in my mind, are part of the medical profession.
And that's crazy that that was, that that was taken away from the nurses.
That's crazy.
I can't believe it.
Now, of course, we're sitting here talking about like, look at these kids getting their
news from TikTok.
And I'm literally getting my news from whatever quad is saying on the marriage and reunion.
But I, I, I, I feel like that has to be true.
Well, nursing has not stopped being considered a medical profession by the public, but starting
July 1st, 2026, the US Department of Education will stop classifying nursing, including advanced
practiced registered nurses as a professional degree for the purpose of federal student
loan limits.
The reclassification is part of a new federal regulation stemming from the Trump administration
proposal.
One big, beautiful bill act that redefines which graduate programs can access higher federal
loan limits.
Wow.
50,000 dollars a year.
I can't.
I can't.
You were wondering who, gee, I wonder who.
I wonder who would have done that.
I want, I can't believe that the Department of Education that is now run by the former
patriarch of the world wrestling federation now decided to make nurses not medical.
Jesus.
Who would have thought something chaotic like that would happen?
This is what this timeline is just a fucking joke, my God.
So yeah, they're all talking about what a travesty this is, you know, obviously it is.
And Andy is like, well, you know, this shows always been unique that it doesn't shy away
from real world conversations.
And so he asks about Alex Peretti of fellow nurse and his death during protest against
ice and doctors and nurses, what thoughts or emotions to that bring up.
And Heavenly says it's devastating because a lot of people feel like a white man would
have been protected because a white man died.
That means we all can buy.
And we thought that they had privilege under this administration, but nobody does.
And it's scary for all of us.
Yeah.
And then Andy asks about gaps in medical care, like mortality in black community, et cetera.
And so Jackie is talking about that there's period poverty.
And the black community has more who die from breast cancer and cervical cancer and ovarian
cancer.
And there's also colon cancer.
And then Andy brings up that there has been an uptick in HIV amongst black women in Atlanta
to which Contessa notes that, you know, that's why it's important for everyone to be
on prep.
It's not just for gay men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was talking to friends recently and nobody even knew what prep was.
I mean, there were straight people, but they didn't even know what prep was.
I was like, really?
I guess gay is the only people afraid of HIV because.
Yeah.
Take it.
Um, so like, Chef, do your prep.
Do your prep.
Me's on plus, I'm like, yeah, it's not funny what I just said.
Me's on plus, the years, the gay sex medication, preventive HIV medication for really fancy
people.
Yeah.
If you're an Epicurian who's having sex, please get on me's on plus.
Me's on prep.
Okay.
Guess what?
The husbands are now on stage.
And because they're men, they cannot be put on sofas where they may risk touching themselves.
Um, like, uh, so they're put in chairs because that would be the worst if someone's shoulder
brother.
No homo, bro, no homo, bro, no homo, bro, and Eugene has gotten his wish after acting like
a housewife all season.
He has been given first chair and he's like, first chair, I've never been at first chair
a violin or anything.
I mean, this is weird.
And, uh, and he's like, welcome back to the very medicine ring, and I'm going and we've
got the guys.
Hi, Cecil.
Hi.
Here we go.
Did you see the wrap wrapping up here to get here, Cecil?
He's like, no, fortunately, I didn't have to fly frontier.
I made it.
It's like, great, Curtis.
How's it going?
Curtis, like, great, great, great.
No complaints.
Where did you find that woman that you have on your lap?
Oh, I just pulled her from craft services.
Well, you should probably let her get back to that now.
Okay.
I will.
Who's just one woman, Andy?
Not too.
Thank you very much.
Okay, Dr. Damon.
Steve.
Oh, Steve, you've got some eyes.
You've got some cleavage.
And he's like, yeah, you know, listen, I've been in the gym.
I've been in the gym, man.
So I'm going to show it off.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Yes.
You have.
Hey, Dr. Scott.
How's the eye?
Scott's like, it's good.
It's good.
You're like, okay.
Well, I understand.
There were some drama backstage, which is why we pretty much have you out here right
now.
You want to tell us all about Curtis?
Eugene?
What happened?
Eugene's like, who, who at drama?
I don't remember any drama and Curtis is like, guys, don't create drama.
That's for the ladies.
Oh, is that right?
Because last time I checked, you guys were all sitting out here because you made so much
drama backstage, okay?
So Eugene's like, yeah, we had a discussion and Andy's like, well, what was the discussion
about?
He's like, well, so at some point, there's been a twice that Toya has been asked about
lap gate.
And I was, you know, not angry about it at the time.
So there's been no beef with that, but Toya is still, you know, I think to this day
a little offended by being pulled into somebody's lap.
And so Curtis voiced that he, well, he didn't agree that that ever happened.
And Curtis is like, well, Eugene, at risk of sounding like a woman in arguing, I'm
all right, guys, women, women, I'm going to beg to differ.
You know, Toya was on watch what happens live and she said that women have come to her
and said that I've had my hands on multiple women, which is a flat out lie.
And then we go to the ladies backstage and Toya's like, no, I didn't.
I said he needs to keep his hands to himself because he said his hands are multiple women,
which I was like, it's basically, I'm actually rebounded at like three times as like, because
Curtis says she said I've had my hands on multiple women and Toya literally goes, no, I
said he needs to keep his hands from self because he's at his hands on multiple women.
And she says in this like nice way to Jackie, like, like isn't this fun?
Like, no, I said because he's had multiple hands and multiple women, right, Jackie?
And Jackie is like, I didn't say that.
I said it.
It's like, what?
So Jackie's like, but you mean on the show show or not?
Okay, but on the show, but on the show, it's two, but off the show, it's three Jackie and
it's all your fault.
Anyway, so are they including the affair, I don't know.
I don't know what Toya is ever talking about.
Jackie goes, oh, it's mine.
Okay.
Yeah, because you said he didn't do it.
And Jackie goes, well, he didn't do what, baby.
Well, he didn't pull me in his lap and so that's what stuck with me all these years.
Now, look, I've always agreed with Toya on this one.
Like Curtis fully pulled her into his lap and it made her feel very uncomfortable.
And it was crazy that neither of them apologized with the swiftness that they apologized
to quad this season about what Curtis said about, you know, fertility.
And so, and I think this could have been squashed years ago, because if Curtis thought he
was just playing around, but it made Toya feel uncomfortable, he could have 100% just apologize
for that.
And Jackie could have apologized for that and they could have moved on.
But the fact that they didn't at that time, obviously, it stuck with Toya.
And I actually would never take that away from Toya, but what I think is, what I think
is crazy is that Curtis can't still seem to acknowledge that.
Like that's wild to me.
Well, but he, I mean, what's weird about Curtis is he did just acknowledge it backstage.
He said, did I pull your wife into my lap?
Yes.
But now we're on the stage.
And Eugene's like, well, you wouldn't even admit that you pulled my wife into your lap.
And he says, because you wouldn't admit that you perpetuated that lie.
What lie?
That you pulled her?
I think the lie is that like Curtis, I'm assuming because it's not really stated.
I don't know.
I don't know why.
It's so clear to me.
I'm assuming that Curtis's stance, whether or not it's true, is that he pulled Toy
into his lap.
He was forcing around.
And it was an overstep.
He didn't realize.
And at, but he's not going around just touching all the women on the show and making them
feel uncomfortable.
That's, I think his stance, what that and Toya stance is, no, he is doing that.
He's got his hands on a lot of women on our cast.
I know when the show isn't rolling, he's also being handsy with other people.
So I think that he's taking issue with this idea that he's sort of generally handsy,
but I kind of feel like the first thing that he needs to do is acknowledge the Toya situation
because that was on camera and we've seen that.
And then he could say, I was worse around, but like, you know, I learned my lesson.
So I'm definitely not handsy after that.
I'm not trying to defend him.
I'm saying like, that's what he should be saying.
And I'm sort of surprised that he couldn't even get there.
Yeah.
I think he admits that the Toya thing, but the problem is he wants to make it this
huge argument that it's not multiple women.
Well, okay, Curtis, but we saw that with Toya and then we know that you were having
an affair with someone like 30 years, your junior.
Was it 20 or 30 years?
I forgot.
One of those, you know, for a while to the point that it was being posted on blogs and
shit.
So you don't need to be arguing.
It's like, oh, exactly.
So it was just two.
So it was just two and not three.
Oh, okay.
Why are you bringing it up?
Just say you're sorry and let it pass, but you're the one who keeps bringing it up over
and over to try and win some little point against Eugene that's not making you look
any better.
Curtis.
And also like Eugene, like, has not looked great this season.
And this is your giving Eugene an easy win here too, just in terms of if we're going
to talk about like a murder, like winning, couldn't go winning a reunion, you know, just
apologize, take accountability that you did something, you know, like that was inappropriate.
And then let Eugene continue to dig his grave because, you know, Steve is going to be
is going to be and continues to be all on top of Eugene, you know?
So like you just have to get out of the fray, Curtis.
And you're staying in the fray because you're being too stubborn to admit that you did something
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Yeah, so they go back and forth because he's like, well, I'm not going to say anything
until you admit it.
And he's like, well, I'm not going to admit it until you admit that you're admitting
things.
And so they go back and forth and he's like, okay, we can leave that there.
So let's talk about massages on the beach.
Wow.
You're Damien because you sold evenly.
You didn't get one.
And he's like, I thought I did though.
You thought you did what?
Well, I don't remember getting a massage.
Look, we get a massage weekly.
So what I consider a massage is what our massage massage Melanie, our massage lady Melanie
does.
You know, oh, you mean asked to be on a table?
Yeah.
It's not a massage if it's not on a table, Andy.
Okay.
Does any of any interest in talking to these guys?
He seems so like not like this.
Why is he asking about this massage thing?
It's so stupid.
Also like Andy just spent a good amount of energy trying to heal Jackie and Simone.
I'm actually a little surprise that he didn't jump in with Eugene and Curtis to be like,
I think what he's trying to say is this and what he's trying to say is that.
And it was weird that he just sort of like sat there and let them talk about it.
And then he just like moved on to this stupid question about the massages.
Yeah.
Well, that has something sexual to it and that's Andy's favorite thing.
You know, like, were you cheating on your wives by getting massages on the beach?
Okay.
Well, gentlemen, we saw you go through some bumps with your wives, Eugene.
You got a lot of side-eye from the other men about how you and Toya waited each other
during the Skip Workday party.
You called it a married moment.
And he's like, yeah, you know, like, look, I think you'd be lying in your relationship
if you'd been together for a long time.
If you didn't have a moment where you said something you didn't mean, you know, we just
happened to be on TV with a bunch of people at our house at that moment.
And you know, maybe there was also a couple of people that might not have been invited
had this not been in all cast him.
Okay, stop, stop making it like, oh, well, it was a cast event.
So we had people that we didn't like there.
You and your wife were yelling at each other like fools at your, at your house, at your
party.
And it made everyone uncomfortable.
And you acted like crazy people.
And then you turned around and blamed everybody else for it and said everyone else just
didn't have as strong as marriages as yours.
No, you know, that's, that's crazy because this crazy talk.
He's wondering why they got side-eye.
It's because you are on TV.
He's like, well, it just happened.
We were just like a typical married couple said to me, it came out wrong.
It just happened to be on TV.
I'm like, it's because it was on TV that you were getting the side-eye because everyone
was like, how are you to acting this way in front of people on TV?
That's where the side-eye is from is that it was such a crazy, public disregard of how
embarrassing you were being to like your family in that moment.
Yeah.
And it a party.
Yikes.
And it's just like party.
Yeah.
So people were just, I mean, they just, oh yeah, so married people don't fight at parties
on TV.
I mean, come on, Andy.
So Steve is like, sounds like a narrative spin to me and that's the truth.
You didn't have to comment, Steve.
He's like, I do have to comment because the blame was put on Mimi, but neither can I have
a married moment.
He's like, well, it wasn't just Mimi.
She called out a bunch of ladies.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It was very specific.
In the moment, it was you bees did this to me, Mimi and heavily, that's what it was in
the moment.
And I did not hear you take accountability for that.
I have not heard an apology for that.
Where's the apology?
Where's the apology?
He's like, well, there is no apology because I saw Mimi's face and it had judgement
in it.
And I saw Heavenly's face.
And it had judgement.
Yeah, because you're acting like a fucking fool at your party.
Of course.
They were looking at you like, what the fuck are you doing yelling at your wife in front
of people?
Yeah.
Have you seen your wife's face?
Have you seen the opening credits of the show?
She's being judgy to the audience.
Okay.
That's what Toya does.
And by the way, love her for it.
That's what we want from Toya.
Like you're on a show with judgy, opinionated people and like you cannot hold that against
them.
That is why they are there.
They are there to express their opinions.
So hush, hush with the judgeiness.
So Steve's like, I see you.
I see what you do.
I see who you are.
Convenient.
What?
Hey, why do you keep the water so close to the entrance of the store?
Convenient.
Convenience.
So I'm going to hold you accountable and you jeans like whatever and guess, you're
Eugene Bush.
I always bring some sexism into it.
There hasn't been enough.
It's been like five minutes.
Like can we be like less sexist for one fucking minute of the show?
Cecil chimed.
Not meanwhile, you know, Curtis is up there, like not messing up to being an appropriate
Toya.
Cecil's quiet.
At the moment that Steve says you're Eugene Bush.
Cecil's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You made a guy sound sort of like a girl that's in a, whoa, it's too much.
Come on, Steve.
That's not right, man.
That's too much.
Cecil, we're not doing that.
We're not doing that.
And Eugene's like, okay, you've been rude all day, Steve.
All day, it's just like, yeah, it's not right, man, whoa, like giving him the maiden
name.
Whoa, whoa, Steve, I've been on the stage for 12 years and you just got here, Steve.
He's like, well, I've been here and I didn't say anything.
I've been good.
It's good, but you've been convenient, very convenient.
My figure's white in here.
Extra sky speeds now.
You're so convenient.
And Eugene keeps saying over and over, well, I've been on this show the longest.
Eugene, you suck.
Okay.
You've been on this show and now you are turning into a real housewife and you need to
just stop.
You're annoying.
Just let your wife fight her own battles.
You know, daddy has it right.
How he does it.
He's just like, what?
What does he have something to do?
Okay.
Well, she did something wrong.
I talked to her and they're like, when?
When did you talk to her off the camera?
That's how you're supposed to do it.
What?
Like, just play dumb.
Okay.
We're not here to watch Eugene find.
So he's like, well, I've been on this show for 12 years and you just got here and now
look, the energy's off this year.
And Steve's like, I didn't say anything and Eugene's like, yeah, well, you're one of the
new people who are here and I'm just putting it out there.
I'm just putting it out there.
No, but these fights are you.
I mean, there is the one with Steve.
But this is you.
This is Curtis.
This is you fighting for your wife is why these fights are happening.
It's not because.
By the way, these fights with Eugene, these fights with Eugene were happening before Steve
even came on the show.
I remember there was a thing with Eugene and Nielis Husband, I don't really remember what
happened with that fight.
What caused it?
But I know that a Nielis husband had to like, apologize to Eugene or something.
It was like awkward.
But I feel like anytime the guys have had some sort of friction, it's always been Eugene
in the center of it.
So then Eugene is like, don't be in this weirdness.
Whatever.
And of course it's like, wait, wait, wait.
But where did it start?
It started at your house.
No matter if he's here, two years, 12 years, 20 years.
There's a respect that goes between men.
We're going to respect him because he does not have boobies.
That's great.
So Eugene's like, Curtis, we understand, we don't, you know, you don't like my wife.
You have an issue with my wife.
I get it.
I'm like, no, no, I've got no issue with the truth.
I've got an issue with the truth and being accountable, I'm like, but Curtis, you're not
being accountable and you are trying to bend the truth.
But that's fine.
Exactly.
Eugene being an idiot doesn't mean you're not an idiot.
So Andy's like, okay, let's move on, Damon.
You're right that Andy's just saying, let's move on instead of trying to work anything
out.
I don't think he watches it.
I think he's just like, alright, get me through this.
I'm what the ladies back here.
I'm not here to talk to a bunch of husbands.
If I wanted to have to deal with the husband, I would have found one for myself.
Maybe he's also like slightly intimidated by them, you know, is like, like older, older
men.
And he's like, you know, like maybe he'd like goes back to a place of like, I'm the, like
the gay kid on the playground or something like that, you know, but I don't know.
But Andy is like, let's move on, Damon.
We got a lot of comments from viewers who didn't understand why you didn't tell heavenly
about Damon Jr.'s arrest.
So Damon's like, pal, I'm just sort of a quiet guy.
So I don't feel like I have to address everything.
So you all do not know the whole story.
So don't assume it because you see it on TV.
So he basically says, I handled it the best way I knew how to.
And then Andy's like, you just like this, I just a quiet guy.
I don't feel like I have to address everything.
You don't feel like you have to tell your wife that your son is in jail.
Heller.
Like arrested.
What the hell?
And so they talk about the son's mental health and they ask Andy asked how he's doing.
And he says, it's been really difficult.
But when something happens to someone that you love to someone, when something horrible
happens to somebody you love and you don't understand what it is, you know, even when
you're a doctor and you've read about all these things over and over again.
And he hasn't, he's not a psychiatrist, but he's read all the books.
And he didn't still didn't know what was going on.
And so he's going to stand up for him no matter what.
So he's not answering basically.
And Scott asks if he's still seeing, if he's still not seeing him and Damien still hasn't
seen him.
And then do you feel like personal what issues get weaponized a lot here?
And he's like, yeah, and I'll be honest, you know, this shows surprise the crap out of
me.
You know, when people make up lies about me or when they say that I'm doing things that
I'm not doing.
And then backstage someone's like, then tell your man, then tell your man wife not to
do that with us.
Tell your wives for screaming at the TV.
That's my man.
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And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's
fantasy epic, Mistborn.
But here's the catch.
Steven here has not read Mistborn before.
That's right.
So each week you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions
to every single chip.
And along the way, we'll do character deep dives,
magic explainers.
And Steven will even try to guess what's next.
Spoiler alert, he'll be wrong.
News flash, I'm never wrong.
Episodes come out every Wednesday
and you can find Fantasy Fanfellas wherever you get your
podcasts.
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