#3534 RHOC S20E10: Slow Hanging Fruit

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4:12your smiling faces in the audience. Yes, and this Monday September 14th, I'm going to be doing a dinner cruise with Hannah Ferrier and Austin from Southern Charm. You can get ticket. That's a New York City. It's going to be super fun. We're just going to cruise around, do dinner, do an interview. So it's dinner to show with me Austin and Hannah. So find tickets for that on Hannah and Austin's Lincoln bio on their Instagrams. And today is real housewives of Orange County season 20 episode 10. Here we go. Here we go. So this is a new, it seems to be like this is the new tradition on Orange County, which is that every season they do dueling trips. I don't think any other show does a dueling trip. Maybe on this show, they just know they need to because otherwise you have these like blocks of people like Emily and Gina and the trace Amigos who just sit and just sit in their blocks and scheme against each other. So this is the way to mix things

5:16up. So we have do it's our dueling trip episode. And we start with Tamra going through closets packing for Solvang because one group is going up to wine country to the little Danish town of Solvang California. Yeah. So Tamra, this is Tamra's house in Big Bear, right? Is it by Solvang? I guess. No, but Big Bear is in a different Big Bear's more at the east and Solvang is more up by Santa Barbara. That's just sort of oh, so that wasn't Tamra's house that they're staying in later. I guess Tamra's house is more cabin looking. Yeah, I think this is just an Airbnb that she usually stays at when she goes up to Solvang. Oh, okay. So she's packing with Eddie. It's a really chemist of the charisma coming off the screen as usual because it's Eddie. It's like his coming. Me, have that come at her Gina. I just said that I'm not going to buy Shannon and Vicki. I'm hoping, you know, we can all get to know each other and come at us. She says sweet. I'm not going to do this. She's not trashy. She's not trashy.

6:23Eddie is like, well, it's just going to be me and you, Rugby. The dogs are great. Can't wait. Me with Eddie again. Then we see Jen. She's packing with Ryan and she's like, oh, you know, me, Vicki and Emily and Shannon were going to go to Lakinta and I told Emily about the pamphlet and it's crazy. So apparently that Ryan had like a caretaker pamphlet for his knee surgery and it showed how to have sex safely without hurting his knee and they did it. It can like have actual positions. It was like a Kama Neetra, like a Neetra Sutra or something for his fucking while you got your knee hurt, I guess. Apparently there wasn't one where you fuck someone with your knee. So that was a big shock for me. Yeah. Thank God for pamphlets. Thank God. So then Emily is, we go over to Emily and Shane packing and she's like, I'm going to stay at Vicki's house and look into. I told Luke about it. He'll be okay just one night. He better be,

7:27like he's been better about that. He doesn't grab onto my leg and cry. That's a step unless it's me because I can't take a step because Luke's on my leg. Yeah, things are great after date and I was Shane but not really because we don't, we haven't really talked or nothing's changed. It's crazy how after years of marriage, one dinner of me saying, I made you steaks. Doesn't change things. We saw a flashback of that dinner and I was cracking up. She's like, come on Shane, I've been making steaks for you. I've been having sex with him. He's like, you made steak one time. Okay, great. It's been great. What do you need for me? Okay. Didn't give you enough appreciation for that one steak you made me. Wow. Talk about a low-stake situation. So, Shane drops Emily off at Jen's place and then Shannon. Shannon comes and she's got like a whole bunch of gift bags and everything. She's like, whoa, whoa, I'm off balance with all these gift bags. I'm wacky looking at me a little slapstick for America.

8:31Can I get some white lotus music in here? You're like, she's like teetering around with her, her gafs. How am I going to get a gift out of the car? And Vicki drives up like, what do you do? A good job. Good job. I've got pajamas that are personalized and hats that say, whoop it up classic. Isn't that funny? Because we're gonna be going golfing. Because I'm really excited to show my house off. And also this random monster truck that I apparently drive now. And it just takes a lot to throw to three houses. And I just want to showcase to the girls that you can work and enjoy your life. Or alternatively, you can work and not enjoy your life. I'm gonna showcase one of those things today. And Shannon needs a break from Tamara. And that's why I decided to bring her. And Emily, I've always tried to have a great time with her. And I just, I wanna get to know them better. And Jen, too, I basically the producers that I have to bring them along. So I guess that's what I have to do. Exactly. So yeah, I wanna showcase to the girls that I could work hard. They could do that. They could enjoy the lifestyle I'm providing that for this day.

9:34In my house. What's your luck in the bed? So Carmella is putting stuff in her car and she has her head. And her and Tamara both dress like the Orange County special. Like Spike Hills and leggings, which I really liked. And Tamara's like, you know what, with time of this day, everything bothers me really bad. And I know what she's talking about, but then Carmella's like, I've gotta go to my hair still. So just hold on, I'm just gonna put a curler through my hair. It's like, I can boil them in the 11. And then you have to curl your hair. What, didn't your mom teach you not to be rude? It is crazy because you're asking. I know. About how somebody was raised, really? I know, Tamara of all people. But it is crazy because Carmella shows up late and then makes them all sit while she does her hair. And she shows up at I think at 11.45 and they don't leave until 12.45 later on because you know I was watching the timestamps. So I would be furious.

10:36You know, it's like this traffic, just traffic, just based off of traffic. It's annoying. And it's also very housewives. And especially this week, because that was what ultimate girls trip was about too. Someone's late. Yeah. Then we got a Vicky's car and they're driving at Shannon, Jen and Emily and Jen's like, Oh my God, Shannon, Shannon is so good to see you. Have you talked with the guy that you made out with? What about that? Oh, well, get this. I did see him. I saw him on a date with a 30 year old, 30 years old. I walked right up to that table and I said, I start charities, Mr. 30 year old. You know, I'm looking for a long term, you know, right now, but as a kissing kind of sore, I want to explore and see what's at there. I mean, I'm a, I'm a kind of sore, but I don't have a huge sample size. I mean, I'm not, I'm not some loose sluts. You would walk around the beach with my ex, husband, David. I'm just like, I'm a kind of sore, not a kind of sore.

11:38Hore, kind of sore. Well, it's harder to say than I thought it would. Ah, so then over in Tamra's car with Gina and Carmella, Carmella is now she's, her hair is done, but now she has to do her, she has to give herself a shot of insulin and Tamra's like, you guys are making me crazy. I'm like, well, I think you can let her, I think you can wait the 30 seconds it takes for her to like give herself her medication. This is a good call. Yeah, the medical's okay. And secondly, God Tamra's making my anxiety worse than the car. And I'm struggling with stress and my glute closes off. And there's just so much people that don't understand about this. This is a lot, it's a lot to deal with. Okay, yeah, okay, medical, medical, medical, medical, medical. Before we pick heavy wrap, I thought that she was talking to you, what was that about? Maybe I had a hand to move in like this. I'm really, really poor. What would you say? Well, I've got a hand at the Heather because she said I wouldn't be telling you this,

12:38but I'm afraid someone else will, and I generally like you, and I think you're a great mom and I'm sorry. And she's like, oh, that's like mixed messaging. I'm sorry. And Tamra's like, yeah, that's a good line to get in front of it. That's where the bitch is. She's getting in front of it. How is it mixed messaging? She, it was exactly matching. Well, that's just saying, like I was never going to tell you this, but someone is going to tell you it. So I'm going to tell you it, but I really like you. So meaning it's like on the one hand, like I was just going to hide the fact that bad how I really felt, but now I'm being up front. So I'm being up front and I'm being deceptive. But I personally, that's Gina's perspective. I personally think it's Heather saying, like, fuck it. These girls are going to try to make me look bad, so I'm not going to let them be the one. I will, I will fast up to this, and I'll be the bigger person. And Karma, I was like, what she could have lied about it. And Gina says, well, you're really making, you're really trying to make this work. Really hot, really hot. Did you hear that? That she's not using me as a real dog. That's like very,

13:40that's like married. Yeah, I heard because she's using me. That is so a vandal. I like how they argue with Carmella. Like why are you using this slut to be real dog? She's like, I'm right here. I am literally sitting right here. I also love how Gina is accusing Carmella of working really hard, like having a lot of mental workarounds to keep Heather as a friend. It's like, hey, you're the one who's actually working hard to destroy it. You're the one who's getting involved in everyone else's fights and getting yourself worked up into a tizzy. And yes, Carmella's gonna work really hard because she's about to get a commission from Heather and she's about to like get Heather as a long-term client, you dodo. Yeah, so Carmella's like, well, they have their own feelings, but I like Heather, you know? And the weird thing girls is that Heather was the one texting me saying, I can't wait to see you, but then she was calling me Trashy and Gina's like, yeah, it's a two-faced-edness. It's a two-faced-edness. It's a two-faced-edness, it's a two-faced-edness. It's been facing about necessarily about it.

14:43That gets me. Gina, who acts like she did not spend the first five or six episodes of this entire season, Trashy and Carmella, every time she had a chance to on camera, why she said she's like a real estate person, but she's like a developer and you're like, flip, like, I don't even understand what she is, what she's paying Jim Pedroni, what? She was dragging Carmella any chance she could on camera and now she's gonna accuse Heather of being the one who's two-faced. Well, now Gina is sitting in the back seat of this car, pretending like she somehow has Carmella's back. Right, like a new railfan. A new railfan. So, and the other car, Emily is like, well, I just don't got it. Heather's saying, to her auditory things about Carmella and then she's a real estate person. You know what, you guys, that's like somebody, that's like what if you guys go into somebody else for itcharts? I represent every state, every company, and then you go out hire some new girl to handle your insurance? No, no, that never works. Meanwhile, Shannon did that. Shannon doesn't handle her insurance, so we found out last week. When she said, oh, like, I have my insurance, who had was that? Stop being.

15:43Oh, I just, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I got a little straw right now. Oh, oh, oh, oh. So Gina's like, if the fakeness, it makes me question her with friendship. You are the fake one here. It's like, for everything I just said, how you were so mean to Carmella, and now you're weaponizing her, just to like settle a score with Heather, because Heather did not choose your inexperienced ass to be her real estate agent. Like, don't talk about fakeness when you are clearly just using Carmella as a pawn in this situation. It's also so funny how her whole argument is like, oh, wow, Heather said, like, remember when Heather accused me of using her for real estate connections? But then her whole fight now is that Heather is not using her for real estate. Like, you are using her. But also like, I mean, Gina's also not necessarily wrong. Heather is fake, but I'm like, it's because Heather literally lives in a different city. And she's in a, she has a,

16:44lives in a, she, she schmoozes amongst a different group of people. She's with hyper wealthy people, and she has to come and be friends with you on this TV show, because it's her job. So yeah, Heather is fake, but I feel like your arguments for her fakeness are not, those aren't the ones. You know, I would take this. Heather's fakeness over Gina's realness, her quote on realness. And that's just how it is. That's like, I understand how her fakeness is for it. And that's crazy that I'm sliding with Heather, but that's not bad Gina sucks. So she's like, yeah, there's a pattern with that. She talked behind my bed. She's saying bad things about Gina. And now she calls Carmella trash. Like, oh, no, Tamra's saying this. And she's like, maybe she has to just stop talking. She's about other people. You, you have been Tamra so funny. So Carmella's like, so you're saying I shouldn't bring it up with Heather. And she's like, no, let's just have a nice car ride. I'm gonna have a scene with Heather later. So don't ruin my scene. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial.

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19:50Like she's created a letter W with her body. And she's like, hello ladies, I have snacks from Aeroan. She's got smoothies and potato chips. And she's like, and I've got dates. And she's got by the way, the worst snack is like all health foods now. She's like, look at this. I've got peanuts that are coated in more peanuts. Enjoy. Ooh, who wants an edamame coated with nothing? Salt free edamame. Everyone enjoy it's from Aeroan. But you know, like Gina, it's like, wow, it's like caviar. She's like, she's sipping her big old Aeroan smoothie without any reservations. She's like calling Heather fake, but very happy to take that smoothie. Yeah, very nice. It takes $25 smoothie or whatever. And Tim was like, what are they real? What's the ectamacidicats? It's $150. Very, very fancy, which is actually pretty cheap for all she got from Aeroan. That place is no joke. It's no joke. So Gina's like, I feel like these Aeroan snacks, like a little too elevated for Kamala.

20:52See, that you're the one who's calling her trash, right? Well, she's joking. She's saying like, oh, Heather called her trash. So now she's getting her fancy snacks. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes like, when we see the show that I before and then like, you read the actual line in the notes, you forget the actual tone of which it said. Oh, my God. Oh, Daryl, she hypocrite. Heather's like, well, what do you think the girls are doing? Maybe they were all there for Vicky's proposal. Yeah. Yeah, maybe they're all going to go to the bank. Because I think that's where the ring is kept. Get out of the bank vault. Maybe they'll get the ring out of the vault. I mean, no, Gina's going to bring that up later. Yeah, I was making fun of me who not having a ring. She said that your ring isn't a ring for. Meanwhile, it was Gina who is the first one to be like, then maybe the other thing he's supposed to. I mean, Gina's just, she's just such a jerk. So then in the other car, Shannon's like, well, so for a tear, I'm going to say this is a theory and to pretty add something that she pulled out of the sky

21:54that Mike did, that he revoked the ring. I mean, it just, it is, it is, it is. We're not ready to get married. Sorry, stop talking about it. We are not ready to get married. I'm not talking about it right now. We're not getting married. We're not getting married. It's a very serious thing. It's very serious. It's so wrong to say that. I just, I, I, I, I, I, I, you know, that those are the words of someone who would not show up at Surfing's Hand to celebrate a birthday. I also think that right now, that's it. Another car, Gina's like, well, it does feel like he went and got the ring. And then something happened to make them not sure about the ring. You know what I mean? Oh my God, you guys, Gina, who cares if Vicki is going to get married to this fucking loser or not? It's Vicki. Vicki's the loser. She's in a relationship with the loser. It's Vicki's storyline for 20 years. Vicki is always with some shitty man. I mean, what are you going to do? But also Gina should start a website called G&ON because she just creates these stories. And then then she decides that they are fact. And then she does everything to find the evidence to support her conspiracy theory.

22:56It's like, you just like pulled this story at like, it's like, Tamara just made up a lie because that's what Tamara does. And then Gina is like, then just like, but I think that this is what actually really happened. And then she won't be satisfied until she gets some sort of answer that somehow satisfies her conspiracy. Yeah. So she's like, yeah, now they're in ring pergatory song. I don't know what's going to happen when they're ring. Another car because the other day I called Mike a fire at because he gets mad and then his face turns red. It's so funny. I said, hey, fire at and he said, go to work. Just go to work. Isn't that hilarious? That is so weird. So much in love. We're in love. In the back. In the back seat. Jen was like, what's a fire ant? She really had no idea what a fire ant was. What is that? So now Carmella gets pulled over by the cops. It's like bloop, bloop. It's like, oh my God, we're getting pulled over. I'm going to gel another time, guys. Ha, ha, ha.

23:58Pull over safe. Pull over safe. Do it safely, please, please pull over safely. You've got a very, very famous actress in your back seat. Just remind the police officer that we have a spare arrow on smoothie. Okay. So, but I'm sorry, I just burped. But Carmella, there's the talk of the smoothie. It just created a burp in me. But Carmella, they're like the officers like trying to get her pull over. But it seems like she's going on an exit ramp or something. Like we can see she's just like not slowing down. And then there's like, are you, you are supposed to slow down. You're supposed to pull over. Do you want to do that? She's like, what? Haven't you run over the cops before? I don't have a driver's license just so you know. I just got suspended. Just kidding. Am I? Am I not? What's going on, girls? They're like, how does it like? If you, if you do not pull over at this car right now, it will cost you the one. She's like, this is the highlight of the trip being pulled over. I mean, it's such a thrill. You know, fight or flight.

24:58I hope you stretch, search is me later. Ha, ha. The cops like, well, your car is smoked out. Your windows are black and you've got expired registration. And unfortunately, the direct, however this car has been labeled as trash in our system. I don't know who did that. That was me. That was me. I'm sorry. I meant to tell you that. I filed a form with the DMV. Ugh. Okay. Do you need to tell us anything before the officer comes back to the car, Carmella? And she's like, yeah, I'm probably murdered. Or you never know, guys, huh? Well, I've been pulled over twice. And one time he just wanted to selfie. Then he let me go. I'm a very famous person. It was just Terry doing cosplay, you know, some weird kink. It's like, hello, young lady. What's going on? You were pulled over for driving to sexily in the right hand lane. Now, Terry, do it again. Is this supposed to be turning me on? I don't believe you, Terry.

25:59Do it again. This time do it with less of a Wendy Malik voice. Should we hide a vibrator in there? So that way you can say, go fuck yourself. That was a joke, right? That was a joke. So now we go to Vicki's house tour. And she's like, okay, here's one room. It's this glamorous. Look at this. Look at that shed the layer. It's not amazing. Okay, this is my place. It was one big bed. This room, there's two beds there. You guys just had who's going to do it. I don't really care. I'm not going to see you because I have a big room. So you guys just do whatever you want. And we'll see it. Chad's like, well, I could share with someone if someone would like that. I am a very low maintenance guest. And so I could also not share. I mean, I don't want to be the press bet chooses there. But if I do have to choose a room, I'd take the single. I'm far away from the microwave because that could actually affect my brain chemistry. But I'm like, wherever you girls want, I'm very, I'm very amenable to any suggestions. Yes. Shannon, are you sure that you're okay with your room?

27:02Because I don't want to have to repack and repack every time you decide you don't like your room, Shannon. Okay. But let me just show you. I was very clear. Okay. This room is a room with the stove, but it's in office. Okay. It's where I work. And then this room is a room with two beds, but it's also where I work. And then so they're basically all the office. So just decide which office you want to sleep in. Because I'm going to work. I won't work. And nobody's going to say anything about it. Okay. Because this is a vacation hope, but it's also a work home. And that's what I do. I'm concerned that the two bed office, that's stapler, you know, those staplers are, they're made with all sorts of hyperplastics. And there's just a lot of like, radiators that there's, it leeches into the air. And I just, I can't be in the same room as that stapler. So I'm afraid ladies, I'm going to have to take the single. Like, well, Shannon, we can move this stapler out of there. No, it's too late. It's just, there's too much plastic in the air. So I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I must take the single bedroom away from the stapler. Thank you. Um, so we see the other ladies touring their house.

28:03And then we come back to Vicki and everybody's eating outside, they're sitting around eating a little something. And Vicki's like, okay, after this, we're going to go to the driving rage and we're going to whoop it up and everybody's going to enjoy it. Cause we've got hats and they say whoop it up. And that's why I'm back on this show. So everybody just whoop it up, say who I got a whoop it up with, Tavu will who around here. Okay, everybody say that until it catches on all around the Keeta and that everybody say again. Yeah, just like, just like don't be mean to me. I don't like when people have mean to me. And Jen's like, I've never been mean to you. She's like, well, you were, you were a snippy. And she asked, well, you, you started this snip. You were the first snip because you said that she was a troublemaker, right? And Vicki's like, well, I mean, I like Jen being pretty and just sitting there like not being mean. That's why I like, I like Vicki. Her whole thing is that she doesn't want people to be mean to her when Vicki is one of the meanest cranky. She's so mean. Something that work. Yeah, she was so mean to Jen for no reason. She's like, oh, yeah, well, when I get married, it's going to be right away when I decide to get married. We're not going to wait like you loser, like sitting around waiting. So shut up, Jen.

29:04I was like, what did I even say? Oh, it's so funny though. So when people get on you, Vicki, you like to divert the attention to Jen. And then we see the flashback of her doing that. And Emily's like, yeah, you just take your frustrations out on Jen. Well, I agree. You know, I do do that because she's low hanging fruit. So that's what I do. Jen's like, gosh, you know, the things you say, Vicki, she's saying, I mean, how are we supposed to take that as a compliment? And we was, I mean, it means you don't earn any kind of respect. That's what that means. Low hanging fruit. I mean, geez, that means you're a person that no one respects or you're a gay guy with a big one. I mean, geez. But low hanging fruit, you know, it's very beautiful. It's very ripe. It's very easy to grab. Well, why am I low hanging fruit? I don't, you know what? I don't like new girls. Just eat your food. I like new girls. Okay. So you're just going to be mean to everybody. And then if anybody calls you out, which by the way, she never even did,

30:04you're still going to be mean to them. Listen to that. All Jen's like, I'm near the group, newer than you. I've been here last four years. Where have you been? So Emily is like, well, if if you want low hanging fruit, well, why don't you go for a Carmella? And she's like, well, I don't, I did go for a comment. I did it already. I already, I already pruned those branches. I'm ready for the ones that are just a little bit higher up. Where are you accusing me of not going for a Carmella? I did come for Carmella. Is anybody paying attention here? Yeah. Well, she's the low hanging fruit. We all know our place is like us. Yeah. You know what? We're beating the bloody horse. Can we just stop beating the horse? We are in my house right now. Let's stop. Stop beating the horse. Okay. We're going to go golfing right now. We're going to go golfing. We're going to go golf working. Okay. That's where you try and get a hole into my insurance. Okay. Just make sure, just make sure this dumb demo over here doesn't hit herself with the golf club. Sorry. Low hanging fruit. Just, it's just, it's just right there. Just like you got a lot of, a lot of fruit on your branches. So over in Solving,

31:06they're going to go, the group is going to do some high jinks in town. And Tamra is like, hey, what do you have to, I think you have to guess. He's doing, do you think that she's yelling at them to keep things neckline? It's the keeps, you know what? I think because you got everyone and Heather's like, don't make Mike upset. That's what she's saying. Ha, ha, ha. And then we see Vicky's house. And Mike shows up after they have golf. And they're all like, oh, Mike is here. That's fun. And they're full of the editors putting clan music. It's like, if Mike comes in and just goes into his room and doesn't say hi to anybody. Doesn't say hi to any. He's not like, hello, ladies. Welcome to our house. It's great to have you here. Let us know. Let me know if you need anything. Yeah, he's a real charmer of this guy. So Vicky, it's Vicky and Mike in the kitchen. And she's like, did you miss me? Did you miss me, Mike? And he's like, yeah, I'm sure. Don't take that long to answer. I'll kick your ass, Mike. You just say it past her. You know, Mike, Mike, I did tell Mike I was coming here for one day with the girls, but he was doing it because this trip, trip close and it's his house too.

32:08And if he can come, if he wants to, so stop asking me. He can come if you want to. Why is everybody asking me about Mike? Stop asking me about Mike. Where in my home? So then Vicky's like, so honey, tell the girls to stop asking about marriage. Okay, we're going to get married when we want and we're both divorced. And we do not want another divorce. He's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. So fire at face, fire at face, I told you. I know. It's fire at face. It's good. Did you have ant catch on fire? What happened? So by the way, my way, Mike, how much time do we have with you? I'm because like, well, you know, you're going to go gambling, right? You're going to go to casino. He's like, yeah, well, got to go make some money for both of us, huh? So then Emily tells us, I remember in Vegas that he also popped up. Is he checking on Victoria? Also notice how I only call her Victoria and confessional. Isn't that funny? I see a pattern here. He's like a whackable. Now I'm in Vegas. Now I'm in La Quinta. Ha. Emily's just killing it with these confessional. So this year.

33:08So now we go to Vicky's group in the car and Vicky is immediately on her laptop. And I said, I gotta work, gotta work, gotta work, gotta work. Vicky's got emails going to need help with emails. Yeah, he needs a placement. He's going into retirement. To need help Victoria. Listen, everything you're saying is going into my email. Please just give me silence. Give me silence. You could also type it instead, Victoria. So then they're all in their hats. And so Shannon's like, type it. Actually, Shannon says it herself. She's like, type it then, type it. And I was like, I love Mike. I hope I hope we can get married. Vicky's like, you know, I'll never find another quality relationship in my life. So stop doing this. Just be quiet. Essos. I was obviously going to be fun Vicky. What'd you say, Ben? I was odd enough on Vicky's side with this, believe it or not. I know we've had discussions about like on girls trip when they were in the sprinter van and she was on the laptop. That was not the place to be on it. But this is they're just going to go, of course, she's just taking care of some emails

34:09in between scenes and she just needs to get some shit done. And and they're just being jerks back there. She's obnoxious. She's having a girls trip. It's only 24 hours, which is nothing. You just made everybody drive all the way out there for one day. Then your boyfriend shows up and now you're going to work the whole time and yell at everybody. Vicky's so lame. So Jen's like, well, you know, Vicky probably. Pardon me. I think I've just not only given it to you. I'm only anything. That's it. Yeah, well, I won't give Vicky anything. So no one's getting anything on this recap. That's for sure. Nothing. So Jen's like, well, Vicky, pride yourself on, you know, being a hard working woman who she is, but she's also an asshole when she does that. Look at me. Jen, look at me. You're the confessional warrior. You're a gen today. Yeah. When you're when you were with your girlfriends, you should shut your phone down. Is it then Vicky just gives them the bird and she has like, are you serious right now? Are you are you serious?

35:10I cannot, I cannot believe this. I'm sorry. Are you guys reacting to the middle finger? I was just talking about the fact that I found a jolly rancher in my pocket. Can you believe it? Are you serious? I'm a jolly rancher and they're all the same. Why does the rapper stick to these things every single time? Can I order? Can I just open a jolly rancher? The plastics inside of me, jolly rancher plastics inside of time. I'm not a jolly rancher. I'm a sad venture. You know, the thing is that sometimes a rancher finds out that another rancher who was in a life long commitment with the first rancher is walking on the beach with a slut. And then the first rancher stops being a jolly rancher and winds up being a sad rancher. And that's because of the other rancher. It's not her fault. So I just want everyone to know that about the jolly rancher that sometimes the jolly rancher just needs a moment. Thank you. You know, it wouldn't be so much to ask for a slightly traumatized rancher.

36:12Well, I guess this jolly rancher, I guess this jolly rancher isn't a can just buy shoes for another rancher, but then that rancher can't pay for a facelift for the other, your first rancher. So I guess, I guess that's just a muddy bag rancher that's having to pay for things. It's just the rancher's been through a lot, guys. Do we have a bit of a lot of ranchers started on the rancher? Don't even get me started on the rancher who made out with a 30 year old two days after you made that with me. Slutty rancher. So now we go on a bike ride, a thing where they're peddling things, carts or whatever with a tamarisk group. And the other group is golfing. It's all wacky times. Look at us. We're riding bikes. We're golfing. So the golf teacher is like, okay, ladies, you're going to swing and follow through with

37:12a decent finish. Oh, Shannon needs a decent finish. She could use that. Just finish all over Shannon's face. It was in the pamphlet. And the guys like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. So, Jen's like, I think it's been a long time since Shannon's had a proper finish, but I tell her, all the time you wear too many spanks. That's a lot of work for a proper finish. It's a gotta keep it together, rancher. Sorry about that. I did golf lessons 10 years ago. I was so good at golf. Watch this. Nothing swing. Nothing. I hate this game. Back off. Yeah, the other girls are like peddling through solving, annoying all the cars that are trying to go at a normal speed and have us like, oh, look, that's the solving bakery. We are not allowed to go in there. I already got you snacks from Aeroan. And they're like, oh, my, it comes out like, oh, my God, you're all gonna have diabetes next. Ha, by the way, how was your drive?

38:13Was it fun, Carmella? How did it go? And she's like, yeah, I feel like we talked about certain things that needed to be aired. Oh, listen, what's confusing to me in this particular scenario is that Gina took this thing that I said about her and told Emily to take this piece of info. That's obviously not going to go well for me. And you know, handed to someone who's going to use it. It's just, it's like a smoothie from a regular supermarket that Gina goes to. Disappointing. And then Heather tells us what I figured was going on the whole time. She's like, what these girls have said behind this girls back are atrocious. Not only would I not repeat them, I would also not tell her. So they were all talking shit, but they're now they're all pretending like it was just Heather who's saying she's trashy, which I figured that's. Yes, that's why they're really mad because they were all talking shit.

39:13And they're like, fuck this new girl. Fuck her coming onto our show. Fuck this new girl. But then Heather's like, oh, I'm like, they also have had this unspoken thing. Like we're over here. She's over there. But then Heather then goes over and starts being friends with the new girl. And they're like, but what about our lunch table? And I think that's one of the things that's making them really pissed off. And then they've put her in this position where now she says, well, you know, Gina calls you a whore face with the asshole that is why does the tunnel or whatever. She would be being mean to Carmella. So they've kind of got her, you know, where she's like, oh, I apologize. But she still can't say everybody else was being or whatever. I hope she does though. So she was like, well, I'll go ahead. No, I was just going to say you say what Gina says and I'll chime in afterwards. I'm like, she's going to do a real thing with Carmella. And she knows it's going to upset me and she doesn't even call me. That's not cool. Yeah. And Gina's like, she's like, I hope she's not in that like bicycle caught, like blaming us now.

40:15And the reason why Gina thinks that is because she knows she knows that she talks shit about about Carmella and she knows that that's what Heather, that's like Heather's counter is like, yeah, they did this because they want like, you know, they just are, I'm getting, I'm tangled up in my words. I'm the point is this she's got a guilty conscience. That's why she that's why she suspects that Heather is doing that because that's what Gina would have done in that situation. I'm saying it's time for Nana stop trying to brainwash people have a let's go brain wash. I was like, Oh, I dropped my purse. Chanel down. Chanel down everybody. What an accident. Oh, God. Wow. This is Chanel Carmella, by the way, I'm not sure if you've ever seen one of these in the dumpster you live in. Um, so Gina's like, wow, the price of Gina's entire condo just fell on the ground. Hold on. Gina's like, could you even imagine we ran with that purse?

41:15I'm like, how they would just go get a new one, but if it was the other way around, you're like, Oh my God, you ran over my Chanel. So, um, then we go back to the golf range and, you know, everyone's cheering Vicki about and like Emily's doing this annoying like cheerleading thing. She's like, Go Vicki, you can do it, put your butter to it. Go Vicki, go Vicki, do your email, do your email and Vicki's like, Oh my God. I've been excited about having the girls in front of me. You know, I'm supposed, I'm excited to have everybody in my house. And I don't understand why they're picking at me. They're picking at me for so long. The reason they need to respect me and my workload. The reason that they're here is because I work. Oh, yeah, we're just also fucking lucky to be getting a glimpse of Vicki's life in the looking to Wow. Thank you so much. This was life changing. Is this the sofa where you watch two and a half men reruns?

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44:19watching some dishes like enrich yourself. New members can start listening with a 30 day free trial at audible dot com slash W W C. So Shannon is like I need to putt I need to putt and P. Okay, oh my god, I'm about to pee my pants. Oh my god. Oh, guys, oh please, please, let me use your bathroom. So she goes off and there's like these houses that are on the golf course. So she just goes into someone's house. By the way, I don't see the appeal of living on a golf course. Maybe if you play golf, that's the appeal. But in my mind, I just see shattered windows. Like, yeah, my house. A lot of those. Yeah. Did you ever live in a golf course growing up? No, I didn't live in one. I stayed in one in Likinta with my parents and their friends. They were all on this like friend trip on a golf course in Likinta. And so I drove up them, drove up to spend a couple days with them. And it was hilarious. They really do stand out on the balcony, watch the golf course. And the men went golfing one day and then all the women stood on the golf course

45:22drinking and when the men passed, they would be like, hi, hi, it's us. And one of them, one of them was like, Hey, Tommy, love you. Hi, love me. I'll never forget her. Diane and Tommy. But that was my Likinta golf course. I was like, wow, people really do this. They stand on a balcony and they scream down at the golfers. And then the guys wait, wave up like, that's me, honey. Watch this one. It's about to be a good one. Don't miss it. It's very prime real estate on a golf course. And like, I mean, it's pretty to look at, look at your window. You see rolling, rolling hills of green and everything. But I'm just like, Oh, it's people outside my window and, um, and my window is now also broken. I don't know. But I, I mean, I can see the appeal. Now that we've talked about it, but yeah, I'm not going to happen for me. Um, yeah. So Shannon goes, if I wanted to sit around and watch a bunch of holes, I'm not able to hit. I could move back to West Hollywood. There we go.

46:22Thank you, Alfredo. Thank you, Alfredo. Thank you. So, um, so Shannon's peeing in, in these people's plays. And, um, and then Vicki is like, I mean, Shannon's running into someone's house. She doesn't even know to take a bathroom break. And I can't answer my emails. This is unfair. Like, I think I think, I think I think going parties. Okay. I think I think people, uh, people are, are okay with, uh, their friends needing to use the toilet. Yeah. She's just a miserable human. What are you going to do? So they're like, oh, let's leave Shannon. That's going to be hilarious. We could just drive out without Shannon. So they drive in circles and Shannon has to run around. Well, I'm sorry, John. Oh, don't, don't leave me. Oh, by the way, thank you, neighbor. Thanks for the soft soap. I feel like the root of so many of Emily's jokes and funny moments is like humiliation. And I think that's sad. So then the girls drive off because right, she's trying to like leave Shannon there and then I'm not trying to be serious

47:24about a stupid little funny scene. But like ultimately the idea is that like Shannon's left alone. And then Shannon's like, they left without me, which I mean, of course, I would enjoy that. I think that would be very funny. But I feel like as a friend, I just feel like all of her, all of our sort of like pranks and funny moments are about making your friends feel bad. If you really think about it. Yeah, that's Emily. So I was cracking up with Shannon left and they said, did you wash your hands? I guess they had soft soap. I gave it five stars. Five star review, but there was a stapler. I could feel it. I could feel it in my brain. So we got a soul being and the girls are heading to dinner. And she was like, oh my God. My mind is such a cute town. Yes, everything looks so much better wrapped up in a cute little quaint and tiki looking home. Isn't it cute? So then they go to this restaurant and the waitress takes orders and this cracked me up because Heather's like, um, I think I will have a steak

48:29freaks medium, please. And then they had just and an espresso martini. And then they all are like, um, I think I'm going to have this same. I'll have this. Yeah, I have the same. I just all guess medium steak freaks. I don't know why that cracked me up so much. They all follow Heather, but then they're so mad about everything that Heather does and yet they copy are completely even down to their order. Okay. Well, it's really quiet right now. But I'm just going to say that you would use you would say that Max would be looking for a home and you suggested that you were going to reach out to Carmella about the. Yes. And then both Tamron and Emily told you that Gina's probably going to be upset by the I but then as my friend, you know, like then to go to her instead of me, that was very heartful to me. Like I'm no new. But I've yes, and you asked my opinion about a lot of real estate things. Like why are you here? Why are you doing this? Who told you you would be good at this stuff like that. And the fact that you didn't even ask my opinion and like I know me. X is shut up Gina.

49:30Okay. So I know Max and the Oppenheimer group. Yes, that you're probably trying to get into through Heather and Max. And also you just illustrated a really good point. Max is a real estate agent. So why would if she didn't even use her own son. Nikki is why would you say your point is. Yeah. So Gina's like, she's like, I just think it's like really shitty that Heather didn't come to me because like we're in this environment like this bubble where the support of your friend matters. And she knows that and she chose not to support me. I would have to go back and watch the launch of the HG network. But I seem to remember that Emily and Gina were not the most supportive. I mean, I feel like everything that Heather does. Gina's like, I mean like what? Like Gina look, I mean, yes, HG network was ridiculous. But Gina demanding all the support when she's been nothing but an underminer to Heather for years on the show. Like give me a can we be right here with the like what? Heather's a comedian now like she's supposed to be funny. Yeah.

50:31Really? It's like nonstop. So there's like the Heather has to now drum up another speech where she has to pretend like she cares about what this poor person has to say. She's Gina. I'm so sorry that you're hurt by that. And also I'm so sorry you forgot to take the hanger out of your, your blazer. Would you like some help with that? Okay, I'm fixed it. So to me, I'm looking for a rental for Max, potentially in an area that Carmella lives in. I'm not buying a home. I'm looking for a rental like what you used to have. But I want someone who's lived in one, but who has rented them? Does that make, does that make sense to you? Yeah, even that like it blew my mind that you've spoken on kindly, my aunt and then you're going to go have her help you with real estate. What the fuck are you fake is fuck? Oh, such a asshole. Oh my gosh. You're really going into this. First of all, we all know that you've called Carmella all kinds of names.

51:33I can't wait to the reunion where Carmella's like, but wait. Heather, you said that they all talked about about me. What did they say? Cause I want to know what they said. And Gina being like, oh my God, this blew my mind. You're asking. And then Heather's response is like, listen, it's Carmella. It's just a rental. Why would I give her anything more than a rental? It's pathetic. It's pathetic that I even thought of her for that. Why would you fight over a rental? You still do my rental right, Carmella? Of course. Because you're trash. Everything is just everything is just like shitty all around. Yeah, cause there is this element of like, oh, I wouldn't, I wouldn't give any real business to Carmella. I mean, look at her. But then also Gina being like, why would you even use her? I mean, look at her. Just getting up from both ends and Carmella's like, ah, hello. I'm right here. Heather's like, don't you know me well enough to know that I'm not fucking fake. I prejudged this woman. I feel bad about it.

52:33And we were actually getting to know each other and like each other. And when I feel terrible and I feel terrible for what I said, because trash should be able to enjoy living as just trash. You know what I'm saying? You get it, Carmella. Well, you shouldn't feel terrible about that. And though it was horrible. I do. But it just keeps getting brought up over and over and over again. And Gina's like, well, that's not me. And then Heather like makes this paddle with her hand. And she just sort of like raises it up. Like it's about to come thwomp down on something. She goes, well, you told Emily about what I said. And she's like, what? Just, Gina's fully caught here. And she doesn't even know what to say. Well, she said first, Gina said earlier, like the only reason that Heather did that thing with the rental is because she got mad that I told Emily. And so this is her, this is her like petty reaction.

53:35And so when Heather's like, well, you did tell, you did tell Emily the things I said about Carmella. And that wasn't nice. Gina's like, like she shocked when you already know that's why she didn't. And by the way, that is a good reason. If I heard that one of my friends was trying to like fuck with my reputation with some new girl behind my back and telling them secret things, getting certain things that I said in secret to them, I wouldn't hire. Why would she hire you to do anything? Yes. Thing. You're completely untrustworthy as a friend. Why would she offer you money as a reward? Right. And then Gina tells us, have as deflecting in the bottom line as you called Carmella trashy. If you don't want something spread around, don't fucking say it. You were the one who is most heinous out of everyone to Carmella. I would even wager to say almost worse than Vicki, except for Vicki, Vicki maybe teetered over and Vicki gets when she basically told Carmella, she was a bad parent.

54:36But like Gina was the one who just came in hot for Carmella about the, about the vibrator, about how much Joe was getting paid. Is she even a developer? She calls herself a developer. Does she work in notes? I mean, like you like from the get go. And now she's going to clutch her pearls. Please. Yeah. And I had this like, well, when I heard about that information, getting disseminated to be honest with you, I thought you did that on purpose to hurt me. No, you're long. I think you're twisting this for no reason. I didn't want to hurt you. I just wanted to hurt your chances of becoming friends with the new girl. Well, this is my opinion on it. Oh, yeah, well, your opinion sucks. Okay. Hey, man, second. I think this, I think where she is coming from is that she just wants you to say, Hey, listen, friend. She was, yeah, I was shocked that you did not pick up the phone. Oh,

55:37break Gina and did you not think that that would hate you in this feelings? Well, doesn't it hurt your feelings? Aren't you a real estate person too? Or did we forget that whole storyline? Wasn't it a realtor? Isn't that how she met Heather? She's like, again, do you see your home? You get hammered? We helped. I'm a realtor now. Yeah, Tamara is like a selectively a realtor every few seasons. So, um, Heather's like, no, I did not think it would hurt her feelings because to me, it was just her rental property. It was like a pittance. It was like giving, you know, a toy to the poor during the holiday times. That's what Carmella is. Well, I know thing that you want. I thought you would hurt me on purpose. But the first year I got my real estate license and then you were confused quote unquote whether I was using you fee or real estate contacts and not. You know, now you then you said you weren't confused. Okay, but you are mad at her right now about real estate. So I think that proves the original point that you were kind of using people for

56:38the money that they could bring you. Like I couldn't imagine going up to a friend and being like, how dare you not give me. The commission over somebody us is so tacky. It's just so tacky. Oh my God. Right. So Heather's like, um, Tamra's the one that told me and I did nothing with that because that would be ridiculous. And you know, it's like, but then we see the clips and this is not what Heather said. Tamra's like, yeah, she said that you would use never real estate contacts and Heather goes, well, she won't be getting any of those. Yeah, exactly. She did say that, but she didn't, I guess, I guess is Heather saying that she didn't use it against Gina like in an argument or something like that. Yeah, she could have used it as a big storyline and she didn't do it. Like Tamra told her basically Tamra tried to bait her with this stuff to use against Gina and she didn't use it against Gina. But Gina was still using that the whole storyline any error, the whole season anyway

57:38against Heather if I remember correctly because she was like, oh my God. And then Heather, you accused me of using using you for contacts and Heather's like, no, I never took up that story. That was just something that Tamra was trying to make happen. But Gina still ran with it anyway. I was like, oh my God. I can't believe Heather is accusing me of using a real estate. It's the same thing she and Emily do every season, which is trying to make fights with people over no reason and then making them happen, whether or not the person was fighting with them or not. It's just like this one. It's just exactly. Yes. And Gina says, when I just got my real estate license and the ink was still wet, she was like, you're using me for my real estate contacts. And then when she didn't even believe that. So she's fake as fuck. So Gina is saying that that Heather was pretending to be offended by the situation when she didn't even really believe it was true in the first place. And so that was like fake. I mean, like this, this is such a strange argument that she has.

58:40I mean, basically, it's like what you said at the top of the show. Gina wants Heather as a client. And she was mad that the insinuation before was that Gina was wanted Heather as a client. And she was like, no, I never said I wanted Heather as a client at or her connections. But now she's upset that she doesn't have Heather as a client. Yeah. So Heather's like, I love Gina. I love art friendship. But these kind of moments really set me back. And it's hard to keep moving forward with someone you feel like is always trying to look for cracks. Cracks, cracks. So, Tamara's like, how do you feel about this trash lady? Come on, Carmella, you should open up. She said, well, I mean, you did ask me, you know, you texted me and said you were looking forward to see me. And then my head is spinning because I'm like, well, does she like me? Or do you think I'm trash? Tamara's like, that's a bad point.

59:40That's a bad point. Do you think she's trash, Heather? Well, we were already becoming friends at that point. I had my first trash friend. I was excited. She goes, well, I mean, I don't know what the timeline was. You know, what Heather's saying is that she spent more time with me and she realized how much she actually likes me. And I want to trust that. Or maybe she is a really good actress. Thank you. Thank you. It's the latter. It's the latter. Take the maybe out trash. Okay. Now, Gina, I would like to say to you, I'm truly sorry poor person. She's like, oh, I'm sorry that I told Natalie stuff, which person? And Tamara's like, um, I need to know about her to make things better. And Heather is like, I might suffocate. That's so trashy. And Tamara's like, you're the way to fit it. It's like, well, what I will say is we all love having you here. And, uh, but well, I don't know about everybody. I should only speak for myself because apparently I talk too much.

1:00:44And Carmel is like, well, who else is talking shit? So well, Vicki doesn't like you that much. Oops. I guess I just did the thing I got mad about Gina doing on, on my behalf. Yeah, except that Carmella kind of knows that one already. And they're like, oh, yeah, it was funny. How you were kind of shady with your gifts because you gave Shannon a much nicer purse than you gave Vicki a little wallet. And she's like, well, she's lucky that I even got her a gift. I mean, after all the things she said about me, I should have just got a vibrator to told her to tell her to go fuck herself. So, um, Tamara's like, and Carmella's like, well, I mean, I do. She just gave me a hard time. Sometimes you just, you know, you get older and you just, I mean, you know, you lose, I don't mean it like that. But you know, sometimes when you reach a certain age, you, I don't know. I mean, what I'm trying to say is she really enjoys oval team and Tamara's like, wow, she's very kind to say to you and she wants to know why you don't have any TV.

1:01:44Send them all in your house. Why don't you have any TV? So you're afraid of girls coming to you? Then she wouldn't get a girl. So then we see that Vicki has basically been accusing her of, I mean, what it sounds like is like, oh, she's just renting this house for TV, right? Because she's like, she doesn't have anything in the pantry. She doesn't have any food in the pantry. No TV's on the wall. I mean, there's no telling the bathroom. Like, what is this? There's something not right about this. And Camarillo is like, seriously? Well, I'm going to FaceTime my man right now. And she FaceTime's in. He's got, there's like a little head bobbing, upping down. She's like, show them the pantry, honey. He's like, hold on, get off of me. Okay, yeah, there's food in the pantry. She's like, see you guys. This is crazy. What is she? Inspector fucking gadget? Whoa. So that concludes the episode. I want a criminal hater, but yeah, this is Camarillo. Just Camarillo. Camarillo is, yeah, one season. One season, wonder. That concludes the solving portion of the episode.

1:02:46But now we go over to La Quinta, where everything will surely go great. So it's there, it's, they're back at Vicki's house, and they're going to get in the pool. And she's like, oh my god, it's cold outside. Vicki's, it's not about the grease out. So they're in the pool. I mean, it's like, there's something on my foot. It's a condom. And there's some, I don't know, like a swiffer pad or something. She steps on. I don't know what it was. So then Vicki and Shannon wackily get into the hot tub by crawling over the edge. Whoa, whoa, can't out. This is hard. Oh gosh, we're getting old. Oh, whoa, whoa, got money up. Get money up. And that takes 10 minutes and Emily and Shannon are just like, wow, you guys are hilarious. So they start talking and Emily's like, let's talk about Jen. Yeah, I'm the little hanging fruit. You want to talk about that? You want to talk about me being the low, the low hanging fruit? What about that? Yeah, it's all the same. You're frustrated at the table and then you're mean to Jen.

1:03:47Let's talk about that. And so Vicki's like, I'm tired of it. Like leave Mike and I alone. Okay, we're good. And Shannon's like, well, but it's, it's not nice to call someone low hanging fruit. Do you know that there's a lot of carbs in fruit. It's very insulting. It's just whatever, whatever. No, don't say whatever. Don't, don't be tamara. That's not nice. I would not like to be called that. Please don't call me low hanging fruit or even I hanging fruit. Please, you know what? Call me a delicious piece of protein. Have a call me, Shannon, with a little bit of cream cheese in the inside. Well, you call me low-higgy fruit. I don't care. I don't care. Just call me low-higgy, working fruit. Just call me that. Office fruit. I'm office fruit. And I was like, you wouldn't like that. You would, you would, you go call Debbie Downer and that made you mad. Because I'm not a Debbie Downer. I'm not a Debbie Downer. Cut to 10 minutes later where I'm cutting kicking everybody out of my house. It's just, it's not nice to say low-hanging fruit. Okay, it's obviously the worst fruit that there possibly is. And because it's like, okay. You guys stop poking the bear.

1:04:48Stop poking the bear. The bear's going to come out. And then you're going to be like, oh my god, why is that bear on the slap top? It seems like you're poking gentle the time. And Jen's like, yeah, you're poking my bear. Thank you so much, by the way. Thank you for poking my bear. It's a cute bear. It's like, well, she poked me so I poked back. It's bear poke. Two bears poking each other. Okay, she's like, no, but I, I think I do ask things about you that you don't like. Yeah, well, sometimes it's just not your business. Because I literally have a business and I'm working. I'm working right now. My laptop works under water. Okay, get out of the way. I'm working. Well, Victoria has an opinion about everybody. But then when we ask her stuff, she doesn't want to talk about Mike. She doesn't want to talk about the ring. She tells everyone to fuck up. I mean, I think it's only fair that she shares much as I do. Yeah, well, look how entertaining that is. Civic, he's like, I have a this. Everyone, leave me alone. Okay, I've been hurt in relationships in the past by other people's opinions. And Emily is like, she's like, well, it's just, it's not about your relationship. Maybe we feel like we're putting a lot of time and energy into a friendship with you.

1:05:50That's not what we're super created back. Okay, Emily, you're not putting time and energy into a friendship with Vicki. You are sitting here trying to extract storyline and find the scandal. So you can hang her at the door. I'm not saying that Vicki is great or good by any means. And I'm not saying that her relationship is in good place. But please don't try to act like you're trying to have a friendship with this woman. You're just trying to pull out something that you guys can all jump on top of. And Vicki knows it, which is why Vicki is circling a wagon. With somebody and then being like, I'm just trying to be your friend. It's very Heather Gay. Yeah. So Vicki's like, oh my god, get the flip over it. I was just doing emails for half an hour. She's like, I'm not going to get over it. You told us to shut up. Oh, good. You were rude. Okay, this is, I got your message. You guys detect it however you want. I don't want to talk about it anymore. Okay, well, it's going to be hard. What are you doing right now? You're in my help. Respect me. Respect me, Be quiet.

1:06:50Quiet. But then again, do you, I hate when people say, you're my home and I hate that. You don't get to just be an asshole to everybody just because they're in the house. That's not a good hosting. You're being a dictator. And it's like not, it's like a perfectly nice home, but like they could be in any other Airbnb too. So Shannon is like, well, I feel like I'm in a no-win situation. It's like, it's like walking into a bathroom and there's no soft soap. It's just a no-win situation. And with Vicki, she's not listening and she's at this point where she just won't hear what anyone has to say. Which is when you Shannon should be like, guys, I think we're not getting anywhere with this. Let's table this for tomorrow. I do think that she should say that if she's recognizing it's a no-win situation, then you just, you, you call people off. Well, also, how does this cast not realize that Gina and Emily both, even if they're separated are going to do nothing but start fights that producers are telling them to? It's like the same thing over and over and they never catch on to it.

1:07:52Just tell Emily, shut up or start asking Emily about her terrible marriage. And just start asking her questions. Like they're all so dumb that they fall for it every single time Emily does it and then victimizes herself and then they just, they keep following the same circles and it cracks me up. So Vicki's like, okay, yeah, we're going to talk about it tomorrow. I'm not doing it tonight because tonight we're going to do pizzas. All right, it is bullshit. We're going to make pizzas. Well, I don't think we should stop picking on me. I don't think we're picking on you, Vicki. I'm merely re-litigating my childhood trauma with my own mother review. Okay, anyway, sincerely stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Like, okay. But they literally won't. I mean, that's never going to do it. So Vicki really starts getting triggered. And then she goes in and she's like opening the oven, like kind of jerking it open and making stupid little homemade pizzas. And then Shannon comes in and she's like, oh my god, what did you cry, Shadda?

1:08:56I was like, because I know this was an important deal. And I'm just running to hang up in my car. She's like, God, I don't want you to cry. I'm very upset right now. I don't want to deal with you cry. And you should have stood up for me. Say, I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle. Here I am in the middle of people again. And then the other girls come in and they're like, Vicki, are you mad? I'm f***** right now. If you want to make a pizza, we're going to make a pizza. There's things to the pantry like all it's just for the dogs. I just want to get to the job as I read my Bible and pray. So Vicki's like, what a way to, so Emily and Genders go off. They go off to get them through pajamas or something like that. And Vicki's like, what a way to f***** up my night. I only have so many nights left on the start that I'm not going to be so angry. Oh wow. In the right episode where Emily and Vicki is planning on dying within a five year period. Well, I just wasted another night. So then Vicki is like, what are they doing in there anyway?

1:09:56Talking about me? Better not talk about me. They could leave. Okay, come here and eat some f***** pizza. She's just being like the terrible host right now. So Jen and Emily sort of like slink back into the kitchen in their pajamas, that Chan and got them. And then it's all awkward and Chan just slicing this onion very quiet, very slowly. She's like, it's just like tension in the air. But then she tries to make it fun, Chan and she's like, well, welcome to the kitchen ladies. Bon Jor no no no no. So Jen's like, Vicki, I'm sorry. It seems like you feel down. It's like, well, I'm very upset. And I appreciate you saying you're sorry. And what I'm saying, sorry. And move on. And move on. Okay, and what I go back, I don't want to go back. Let's not go back there. Well, I don't remember you ever saying you're sorry. Chan's like, oh gosh. So can we just... I believe that's not how you... It's like, when did you say that you were sorry? You said, you do it. Please stop, Emily. Please remember before when I said, stop. Stop. Stop. No, I'm just asking mom.

1:10:57And Chan's like, okay, but uh, who does anyone want to cut some tomatoes? Vicki, do you want me to cut? To have these tomatoes? Cut. Everything is fine. Everything is fine. And Emily is like... Stop. Vicki, don't just stay stop. And if I'm just asking questions, Vicki, it's like, what can I say right now? I'm really sorry about the fruit. I don't know what to say. I'm sorry to you about, Emily. I'm sorry to you for whatever you're mad about. I'm like, oh, don't you don't have to apologize to me. Yeah, Emily, because no one's done anything to you. Shut up. Just shut up. Oh my god. She's poking, poking, poking. Vicki is having a pity party for herself. She's being a terrible host. She is the one who set the insulting thing. And then she is the one who's not apologizing. And then she's acting like she did apologize. And she is withholding information. She is by and large. Like the, she is terrible. And yet oddly enough, I'm still on her side because I find that Emily is, it's like annoying what Emily is doing. It's annoying to me. And like, you're not going to get another response out of her. And you know you're not. And you're just pushing it and pushing it.

1:11:58And I just, I don't know. Like I feel like Vicki is just dealing with annoying teenagers right now. And she's fed up. She's just at her limit. And so she's just like, I'm done. I'm losing my fucking mind right now. Okay, it's like, by the way, everyone that pizza sauce is done, everything is fine. We're a happy family. Ha, ha, ha. Oh guys, hey, has anyone ever used this pizza sauce before? It's really good. It's delicious. Put it on cream cheese. Put it on salmon. It's like, great pizza sauce. Oh god, thank god, Michael's out here. Thank god, Michael is not here. What would Michael do? Because Michael's worried that I'm going to get stressed because this group isn't always nice to each other. You're stressing yourself out. I feel like all we have to do is have an honest conversation like friends. Vicki. Listen to me. You listen to me right now. She expressed she didn't want the low-higgy fruit. I said I was sorry. That two hours later, we're still talking about low-higgy fruit. Well, she's always sad. This is bullshit. I don't appreciate negative energy in my home. I feel Jen and Emily are absolutely trying to ruin the evening.

1:12:59I love that she's the one saying she doesn't like negative energy when she is the great feeling every corner of it. Yeah. So, Jen's like, what do we do? What's the problem? We're just talking. She's like, I'm taking my back off. I'm dead. I'm dead. Vicki. Vicki, here we go. Vicki quitting again. Play the quiet game. I'm taking everyone ever just play the quiet game. Play the quiet game, okay? So I'm like, maybe it's just respectful of you to tell us to play the quiet game. Your treating goes like children. I mean, you're acting like a child. Let's be honest here. So Vicki quits, which is also ridiculous. I mean, they're all being so silly. And I'm, of course, having a great time watching it. And Jen goes to Shan. She's like, you're just like dancing around all of this. Okay, you're like the dancing fruit. Just, well, I am trying to salvage the night. Do you want a pizza? Do you not want a pizza? I want low-hanging pizza tonight. That's what I want. Vicki's mumbling. Like, I spent $400 hitting the pool. Did they even say thank you? No. Listen, if you're having to worry about the $400

1:14:00every time somebody comes to swim in your pool, you shouldn't have a pool. Yeah. That's, that's my's really right there. So then Mike shows up and the music is like, blah, like, oh no, Mike is here. Blah, blah, blah, blah. What are we gonna do with the Mike? Oh no. Terrible. Vicki, fire at Mike is here. It feels like a horror movie because Vicki has gotten, she's getting angry and angry. And now she's like gone off to her room. And there's like this feeling like in her room, she's like switching to her native form, which is like some 700 year old witch. That's like, looks like a tree or something like that. And like, oh, you cannot cast eyes on Victoria in this form. And Mike's knocking, there was like, Vicki, will you let me in? And he's like standing outside her, the bedroom door for a long time. And then she finally lets him in. And it's like, what's happening in the bedroom? Oh gosh, should we leave? Should we just leave here? Well, I want to call a new bar. Okay, well, the alternative, the oven's off. I don't want to burn down her house. You would think that I would tell my children that at some point, but I don't know. Maybe a little learn from this episode too late.

1:15:00So then Vicki comes out of the bedroom and she's like, Vicki, Vicki, this is not good. If you're just like, Mike is here. Okay, we're not talking about Mike because he's already very upset. She's like, well, everyone's feeling very uncomfortable and then Emily and Jen are packing. And because you guys, everybody can get the fuck out of my home. And then she goes up to the production. She's like, I'm out of my mind with what's going on. I'm out, I'm out, I'm out. I'm out. Oh, Vicki, what a loser. The fact that you're, this is your 20th year and you can still be this triggered by Emily who is doing the most ham-handed nagging and triggering I've ever seen in my life. Like so. You are such a sucker. Yeah, serious. Seriously. Also hilarious that the cliffhanger is, will the women leave Vicki's lock into house? Like two hours before they're gonna be forced out anyway because this is only a 24 hour trip. I know, will they get a pizza? By Vicki. But will their dinner be? Anywho, that was a very funny episode

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