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You created everything, look for the powerful being you are.
You did these things, but now you're in a human body, you forget the power you have.
What you do is what the whole universe is doing at the place you call here and now.
You are something the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is something
the whole ocean is doing.
Welcome to Metamistics where you don't know what you don't know.
Today is going to be a wild episode and this could break the entire paradigm of the reality
that you live in, not that that's not what we try to do every episode anyway, but this
one right here is some next level stuff, completely reframing how you view every pixel
of reality, every thought that goes through your mind, every emotion that you tie to each
one of those thoughts and you're surrounding everywhere, every single this ties in everything.
So I'm just saying it's going to sound pretty weird.
It's going to sound maybe even a little bit crazy, but that's all we do over here because
you don't know what you don't know and what we love what I love to bring up is that there
are ancient cultures who used to think very differently than modern day people, obviously.
And so why would we take every single thing, all the mythologies, all the religions, all
the philosophies at face value through the perspective of our own eyes and our own minds
and our own understandings, whenever it was probably not meant to be taken exactly how
we would view it today.
And I think this is probably where a lot of people get caught up in some of their ancient
mythological studies and whatnot, taking everything so damn literally because we have succumbed
to the illusion.
We have completely succumbed to the illusion.
We have separated ourself from every aspect from reality.
So much so that we almost neglect our own thoughts and our own feelings whenever we walk
into a room, you know, maybe I'm going through some crazy stuff right now and I can't
really talk about it.
But I just had this experience where I walked into a room and I wanted to throw up out
of nowhere.
I'm not sick.
Like I'm totally fine.
And I wanted to throw up instantly as soon as I walked in there.
And maybe if we were more aware of our surroundings and more aware of our connection to said
surroundings, whether consciously or unconsciously, then maybe we might be able to understand
more of the underlying aspects of the nature of our surroundings a bit more because we
are part of the whole.
Everything exists altogether collectively as one thing.
And so why would we then separate any aspect of ourselves from the outside world in that
sense?
So this is where we're going to get pretty wild.
I wanted to, I'm sure we've talked about it before, but I want to go in deeper with
these concepts, the concepts of animism and panpsychism because what you're seeing now
within quantum physics, what you're seeing in modern day philosophy is tying in to what
the ancients have talked about forever.
And we just didn't know exactly what lens in which to view this, it all seemed silly.
It seemed crazy that what a tree could communicate with you, the wind, the sky, come on man,
these aren't real things, they're real, but they don't have a consciousness or a mind
themselves, well, this might be the view that unlocks that door to allow us to perceive
these things through the eyes of the ancients who are more connected to their reality than
we currently are.
And I think that that's not even a far stretch to say.
You think about it, how many people are glued to their phone or glued to the TV, neglect
their own thoughts, they have anxiety, they have depression and most people don't even
know why they have these things, which is even crazier.
You're so secluded from reality that you're now even secluding yourself from your own
thoughts.
You don't know the nature of which all of these thoughts are birthed into your mind.
And I think that that is as a result of separation.
We think that we are separate from everything else.
And maybe, just maybe if we looked at everything through this animism and pan-psychism point
of view, it might start to make a little bit more sense, it might get us a little bit
closer to the nature of our reality, the nature of our feelings, the nature of our thoughts,
and completely submerge us into the field of awareness, into the field of consciousness,
because now you're no longer identifying as something separate from it.
You are it.
You are the drop in the ocean that can perceive every other drop in the ocean because you
are it.
So if it sounds crazy and I haven't, if it doesn't sound too crazy and I haven't
scared you off, then buckle up because this one upon doing loads of research, I'm now
of the absolute belief that that is what's going on.
So it may shatter your reality a little bit, but it's going to shatter it in the best
way possible because now you're going to be so much closer to everything else.
You're not separate from anything else.
You're going to want to be involved in more conversations, not just with other people,
but with other things.
So let's get weird.
We're talking about the living universe, animism and pan-psychism today, and I have this
idea that the dream that we live in is alive and nothing is ever actually dead.
There's no such thing as non-existence.
The definition of non-existence is something that has never existed and can't exist.
There's only existence.
So the dream, what I like to call it, some people like to call it a matrix, some people
like to call it a simulation, some people like to call it the Maya or the illusion, whatever
you are experiencing.
I call it a dream.
I believe that it is alive and nothing is ever dead.
Now that doesn't separate anything.
I'm talking about the birds in the sky, the wind, the rain, the snow, the telephone poles,
the squirrels, the ground, your house, your bed.
There is no limit.
It is everything.
So if it sounds crazy, just stick with me.
I promise you it's going to make more sense.
I believe that there may be varying levels of awareness to every pixel of our reality,
a piece of plastic, a piece of metal, a piece of wood, a speck of dust even.
It all may have some essence of awareness.
All right.
So, hey dude, you agreed to keep on listening, so let's keep on going down the rabbit hole.
And I think that what we're going to try and attempt to do today is bridge the ancient
awareness of spirits and quantum consciousness today.
Because some people like to look at things through a scientific point of view.
And I understand, I mean, look, if everything is everything, why can't everything be everything?
You know?
So if it can be looked through one lens, it should be able to be observable through
many lenses.
So most people believe that ancient mythology was humanity's first attempt to explain a world
that they didn't understand.
So what if we've only forgotten how to see as they did?
And what if modern quantum physics is rediscovering the same reality, the same living reality that
they once experienced.
So instead of treating everything that makes up our reality like things, and more like
a familiar, would we have more respect for everything?
Probably a lot less wasteful as well.
But that's, it goes beyond just recycling.
This is not a recycling episode.
It's all encompassed here.
So I'll put it like this.
The ancients and even people today, when they walk into a forest, it is a spiritual thing.
Like the forest is there to communicate with you when the winds blow through the leaves
of a tree, an acorn falls from a tree, hitting several branches before it inevitably hits
the ground, a squirrel jumping, a bird chirping, bugs buzzing.
And when you're in nature, you don't look at these things necessarily as individual things
happening.
It's the forest speaking to you.
And maybe you aren't a frequent to nature.
That's totally fine.
I know some people just hate bugs and mosquitoes and maybe have a phobia of snakes totally understandable.
It's not just in nature.
It's everywhere.
It's the store.
It's your neighborhood.
It's your home.
The buzzing of the electricity that is going through your walls, the ceiling fan spinning,
the ticking of a wall clock.
Sure, they might seem like they're inanimate objects.
But collectively, they set the scene.
And your relationship to them brings your life to life.
My grandparents used to be hoarders back in the day.
Not like in a bad way, necessarily.
They just never wanted to give anything away or throw anything out.
And after having it in their house for so long, they developed a connection with these,
what some people might say, inanimate things.
They had this one wall clock that chirped like a bird for every new hour.
There was a cardinal for noon and a blue J for one o'clock and so on.
The birds always had their own unique chirp as all the birds in nature do.
And the sounds never got annoying.
My grandmother loved that thing and we all did, really.
And their love for their things almost gave their things little personalities and with
personalities came love and with love comes life.
That's how I believe animism started and that's my personal connection to it in that sense.
How I can personally relate to it.
And so now we're going to dive into how the ancients used to do it.
And we'll see that quantum physics and modern philosophers, what they're saying maybe is
what the ancients and my grandparents were saying.
And maybe it wasn't crazy after all.
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So before science, there used to be this relationship.
Science is a relatively new thing in the in the giant scope of humanity.
You would have ancient cultures.
They didn't see nature as objects, but they saw them as living beings.
You would have indigenous traditions such as Native Native America or the Native Americans
and the Aboriginal of Australia.
They viewed Earth as a conscious system.
So they would see rivers as entities with presence and intention.
Animals were considered relatives, teachers and massengers.
Humans lived in relationship with nature, not separate from it.
So that is where we're going to get into our first article today.
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So that being said let's get over to the nitty-gritty.
I want to get into the indigenous peoples of the American southeast as far as animism
and shamanism how it pertains to all the things that we're bringing up today.
So I pull it up this article this is actually from Britannica and Britannica is going to
go into this.
The delicate relationship between humans and the natural world is well expressed in what
is known as traditional southeastern religions and worldviews.
These emphasize animism which is a perspective in which humans share the world with a proliferation
of spiritual essences of animals plants and natural objects or phenomena.
These people are the peoples of this region believe that animals possess souls and slain
animals sought vengeance against humanity through the agency of their what they call species
chief which is a supernatural animal with great power.
This is probably where what's that big wolf called that is I don't know those huge wolves.
I always think about it from the dire wolves.
Yes that's what I was thinking of and maybe they existed maybe they didn't.
It could just have been some kind of great animal spirit.
I don't know but that this is kind of what they're talking about here and another example
is the deer chief so the deer chief was able to exact revenge on humans who dishonored
his people the deer during the hunt the hunting thus became a sacred act and was much
imbued with taboo ritual and sacrifice and most disease was attributed to failures
and placating the souls of slain animals.
The plant world was considered friendly to humans and the Cherokee thought that every
animal sent disease could be cured by a corresponding plant antidote.
The economic significance of corn was memorialized by the near universality of the green corn
ceremony or busc throughout the southeast.
This was a major ceremonial so fussed with an ethos of annual renewal in which the sacrifice
fire and often the hearth fire of each home was rekindled old deaths and grudges were
forgiven and forgotten old clothing and stored food were discarded and a sense of community
was regenerated.
So what you're seeing is is that they started to develop a respect for animals a respect
for plants and they started getting that respect back from the plants and animals.
It sounds crazy but isn't that how relationships are formed in the first place?
How is it so different?
So spiritual power could reside in objects other than plants and animals.
Medicine men possessed sacred stones, quartz crystals and other mystically endowed paraphernalia.
Other objects were consecrated to symbolize the collective solidarity of the group.
The Cherokee made use of a palinquin or litter within which were placed revered objects.
That's a tough one.
The Muskegee, the Tukabachi Muskegee possessed sacred embossed copper plates and the temples
of several lower Mississippi groups contained an assortment of idols and icons.
Natural objects could be infused with sacred power in a variety of ways including contact
with thunder as in lightning struck wood, immersion in a rapidly flowing stream and exposure
to the smoke of the sacred fire or ritually prepared tobacco.
The outlines of a formal theology can be discerned from early accounts of some of the stratified
societies and from those groups that survived the immediate ravages of European contact.
Most groups possessed origin myths involving primal deluge into which prototypical beings
plunged to secure a portion of mud that magically expanded to create the earth which was
often viewed as an island.
The subsequent course of mythological history was frequently related in terms of a cosmic
struggle between a celestial culture hero who bestowed boons on humankind in an underworld
anti-hero who became the source of the fatality and misfortune inherent in the human condition.
Southeastern myths and folktales are populated by a myriad of nature spirits, monsters,
tricksters, giants, and little people.
Among many people, evidence survives that suggests belief in a supreme being sometimes depicted
as the master of breath.
This ultimate divinity was frequently associated with the sun and its earthly aspect, the
fire.
In addition, the world was viewed as quadrasected by the cardinal directions.
Each direction has a presiding spirit and appropriate color symbolism.
Even with the remote supreme being seems to have rested more with the priesthood than
with the everyday activities of the average individual, the life of the latter was more
intimately tied up with the proximal spiritual beings who were felt to intervene more directly
in human affairs.
So you see literally every aspect, you would have, of course, your priests who maybe devoted
their entire lives to getting to know the nature of their reality, and then you would have
your regular people who were maybe farmers or what have you, builders, that even they
were communicating with nature spirits and everything else.
In some of the wealthier stratified societies, priests were given specialized training and
became full-time religious practitioners responsible for the spiritual health of the community.
Priests also assumed the responsibility of conducting the major collective religious
rituals that punctuated the calendrical cycle, so the cycle of the calendar.
Complementary to the priesthood were various individual magico medicinal practitioners,
such as sorcerers, conjurers, diviners, herbalists and healers who were generally part-time specialists
and catered to individual needs and crises, especially the treatments of illnesses.
Medical therapy was intricately enmeshed in the spiritual view of the world and might
include such practical procedures as isolation, sweating, bathing, bloodletting, sucking,
the inducement of vomiting, the internal and external application of herbal medicines,
and the recitation of ritual chants.
The frequent elaboration of funerary practices included in tearing the chiefly dead with great
quantities of freshwater pearls and other rare minerals indicates that most groups believed
in an afterlife.
It was generally thought that the souls of the recently deceased would hover around the
community and try to induce close friends and relatives to join them in their journey
to eternity.
Thus, the elaborate funerary rights and the extensive taboos associated with death were
as much a protection for the living as a commemoration of the dead.
This was especially the case because death was never considered a natural event, but was
always the result of malevolent animal spirits, witches, or deadly machinations of sorcerers.
If a death had been caused by human agents, the soul of the deceased would never rest
until vengeance had been secured by its living relatives.
Let's go, dude.
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So you can kind of see where I'm going with this year and I hope you do.
That there used to just be a more included connection to the nature of your reality spiritually.
Now whenever we say spiritual or whenever I say spiritual anyway, I think that it's just
people get caught up in the whole spirituality kind of term almost as if it's like a phase
in humanity.
I'm like dude, spirituality has literally been here since the beginning.
It's probably how all of this was created in the first place.
It's not just a fun little phase that people go through because once you find it, there
is no going back.
If you do go back, there will be reminder after reminder after reminder as to why you need
to come back into the spiritual understanding because that is the nature of our existence.
It is spiritual.
Now whenever we say spiritual, maybe that's just a term for something that we don't fully
understand and we call it spiritual because we have limited senses, you know, and the
third eye or your aura or your energy centers, it seems a bit taboo up until today, okay?
So we're going to be getting all the way into this.
So now I want to get into mythology a little bit.
So cut to today, modern society views mythology as symbolic or fictional, which is horrible.
But back in the day, ancient cultures often treated myths as real experiences.
Gods were expressions of natural forces and intelligences.
Storms, rivers, and skies were perceived as conscious phenomena.
And what they're finding now is that mythology may be a record of interaction with a living
universe, okay?
See what goes around comes around.
It's the snake eating its own tail.
It's the aura boros.
You know, eventually you'll start devouring the tail and you forgot that you already ate
the tail and you start working your way up the spine and if you're the snake, you start
working your way up the spine.
And eventually you just keep on eating more body until maybe you just get back to the
tail again.
And that's just the nature, like nature is cyclical.
So why wouldn't humans be the same exact way?
And I'll give you even like a pop culture reference here.
How about like, you know, there are remakes of old movies that are happening right now.
There are, there are styles of music that at one point in time seem to go all the way
out the window to make way for the new style of music only to come all the way back to
people are loving the 80s music now.
I say now as if it went away, but it kind of temporarily did go away for a good 15,
20 years and now we're starting to see that everything comes back around.
It's cyclical.
That's the nature of our reality.
That's the nature of humanity.
That's the nature of our minds.
So why wouldn't everything else be the same way?
Now if you've been listening to the mystic studies episodes, we recently just got into
the book of by Madame Blavatsky and it's called the the loss not, or I'm sorry, the
the land of the gods, dude, that is what gave me, that's what inspired me for the
show today because she's going into ancient concepts that we're seemingly forgotten
about and never talked about again.
And all the sudden the osophy rules around in the 1800s because of her and a few others.
And it's like, oh yeah, that makes sense.
Do you know why it makes sense?
Because you're remembering we are what is it like 80% water and we never die.
The spirit never does.
And so, of course, whenever it comes into contact or whenever, you know, our physical
nature or a spiritual nature comes into contact with what was once understood, but then eventually
forgotten, we're not going to necessarily see it as new information.
We're going to see it as remembering and that's resonance in a nutshell anyway.
Really think about it.
Why something resonates well is because you were already familiar with it at one point
in time and maybe one point outside of time.
So yeah, we're not going to turn this into too much of a headroom.
But anyway, Helena Blavatsky attempted to unify ancient wisdom with modern thought.
So in the land in the land of the gods book that she wrote, amazing book definitely highly
recommend everybody to go check it out.
She describes a layered conscious universe and gods in quotes were interpreted as higher
intelligences on different planes.
And matter, matter was seen as condensed consciousness rather than the source of it.
Animism was reframed as a deeper perception of reality.
If everything in all realities comes from one source and matter originally started at consciousness,
it's really not that far of a stretch if you really think about it.
If it's all one, why would we separate anything?
Why would we not try to connect with the majority of everything, if not everything, if everything's
all one in the first place?
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So I have another article that I want to share here and this one, it goes, what website
is this one from, let's see science news today.org, I found this website particularly interesting.
This is from, well, they talk about panpsychism explained now.
What I've been able to find is that panpsychism and animism go hand in hand.
It's just a panpsychism is a more newer term because it's looking at the same thing,
but from like kind of like an angled edge, maybe looking through the same glasses, but
from a different angle.
But talking about the same exact thing, just more scientific almost, scientific and philosophical
new age wise.
So it goes, few questions strike as deeply at the heart of existence as this.
What is consciousness?
Percentories, poets, scientists, philosophers and mystics have asked what it means to be
aware, to feel, to experience reality rather than simply exist in it.
The enigma of consciousness is not just about the human mind, it's about the nature of reality
itself.
Is consciousness a mere byproduct of brain activity?
An accidental flicker that appears when neurons fire and complex arrangements, or could
it be something more fundamental woven into the very fabric of the universe?
This radical idea that consciousness is not confined to brains, but permeates all matter
has a name, panpsychism.
The word comes from the Greek pan, which means all, and psych, or psyche, meaning soul
or mind, so literally translates to all soul or all mind, panpsychism, which is awesome.
Just remember, the first principle of the hermetica, right, it's like all is mind.
That's the number one.
So panpsychism, and the first principle, go hand in hand there.
So at its core, panpsychism is the belief that everything in the universe, from electrons
to galaxies, possess some form of consciousness, however faint or primitive.
To most modern ears, this sounds wild, almost mystical, and yet it has become one of the
most provocative theories and philosophy of mind and even physics, attracting attention
not just from philosophers, but from neuroscientists and cosmologists alike.
So it says before diving into panpsychism itself, it's worth pausing on why the problem
of consciousness has proven so resistant to explanation.
The sciences have given us extraordinary insights into the brain.
We can map neural circuits, watch brain scans as people think, and understand how chemicals
influence mood, memory, and perception.
And yet there is a stubborn gap between describing brain activity and explaining experience.
Why does the firing of neurons produce the redness of a sunset, the bitterness of coffee,
the aching sting of heartbreak, this subjective inner world, what philosopher Thomas Nagel famously
called what it is like to be, is what we mean by consciousness.
This puzzle is often called the hard problem of consciousness, a term coined by philosopher
David Chalmers, which we're going to talk about here in a little bit.
Easy problems, though not trivial, include how the brain processes information, how it
integrates sensory data, or how it controls behavior.
The hard problem is why any of this processing is accompanied by experience.
Why isn't the brain just a dark machine crunching inputs and spitting out outputs without
anyone, equals home, to feel them.
Materialist approaches often assume that consciousness emerges when matter is arranged in a sufficiently
complex way, like in human brains, but critics argue that no amount of complexity explains
why subjective awareness should emerge at all.
This is the point at which panpsychism steps in, offering a radically different starting
assumption.
I just love that the ancient mysticism and shamans, and all of them, they're all being
proven to be correct, and this goes into Taoism and Buddhism and Hinduism and a bunch of
paganistic beliefs as well, that they were on one, they just couldn't prove it.
But it doesn't mean just because you can't prove something, doesn't mean that it doesn't
exist.
Prove to me that you just had a specific thought.
Prove to me that you just thought of a TV.
You can't prove it, it might spike on a system, but does that variable spike that shows
up on an EEG proof that you thought about a TV?
Not necessarily.
So, and now we're going to get to the core idea of panpsychism.
So panpsychism flips the usual script.
Instead of treating consciousness as something rare that happens only when matter organizes
in elaborate structures, panpsychism proposes that consciousness is fundamental.
It's not an emergent property, but a basic ingredient of reality.
It's fundamental as space, time, or mass, oh shit baby.
So from this perspective, even the smallest particles, electrons, quarks, photons have
some rudimentary form of experience, not human-like thoughts of course, nor emotions or self-reflection,
but a glimmer of subjectivity, a proto-consciousness.
So in these tiny conscious entities combine more complex forms of consciousness emerge,
culminating in beings like humans with rich interlives.
So this is not to say that rocks think or that spoons have desires, rather the constituents
of the rock, the atoms and subatomic particles have extremely simple experiential states.
The rocks in quote, mind would be unimaginably primitive compared to ours, yet if panpsychism
is true, there is no sharp line dividing matter in mind.
Instead there is a continuum stretching from the faintest flickers of proto-consciousness
up to the blazing self-awareness of human beings.
So before I read any farther on this, I do want to say Dolores Cannon has talked about
this, I mean ad nauseam.
She believes that there was consciousness that formed literally every single atom in the
physical material universe, that we as in consciousness or the awareness of consciousness,
we were the ones that created the atmosphere.
We were the ones that ceded the clouds.
We were the ones that became blades of grass in order to understand how grass would grow.
So everything is consciously interwoven, and she believes that that is the growing of
that specific little nugget of consciousness called a spark or whatever, but it's God
trying to know itself while creating itself so that it could see itself.
And so it sounds crazy only because we've been taught otherwise.
This is something, if you're taught this at a young age, it is not hard to wrap your
mind around.
Why do you think little kids can give personalities to any toy?
To forget toys.
They can give personalities to even more inanimate objects like rocks or pebbles or seashells.
I mean a pillow, anything.
And so that's just developing a further conscious connection to what is seemingly to us in
inanimate objects, but we just forgot.
So that's the crazy thing about it.
So now let's get into the very old idea, it says, it says, though panpsychism seems
radical today, it is in fact one of the oldest philosophical positions in human thought.
Ancient thinkers across cultures entertained versions of it.
So in ancient Greece, pre-sacratic philosophers like Thales and Anaxagoras speculated that
all things were alive or infused with mind.
The stoics later proposed that a divine rational principle called the logos permeates the
cosmos.
In India, the Vedantic tradition and Jane philosophy described consciousness as universal,
inherent in all beings and even elements of nature.
In indigenous cosmologies worldwide, the idea that rivers, mountains, and even stones possess
spirit is common.
In modern, in early, modern philosophy, great figures like Baruch Spinoza and Godfried
Wilhelm Leibniz entertain forms of panpsychism.
Spinoza's monism declared that mind and matter are two aspects of a single substance,
God or nature.
Leibniz, I'm not sure if that's how you say it, envisioned the universe as made of countless
monads, each with its own internal perception.
See so it's really not that out there.
It's not new age, it's not woo woo.
We're tapping into what the early humans thought.
And even at the modern scientific age, panpsychism never entirely disappeared.
William James, who is the father of modern psychology, hinted at it.
Arthur Eddington, the astrophysicist who confirmed Einstein's general relativity considered
it plausible and Bertrand Russell suggested that physics describes only the structure
of matter.
But it's intrinsic nature, and perhaps that intrinsic nature is consciousness itself.
And today, as neuroscience, philosophy and physics continue to wrestle with the enigma
of mind, panpsychism has resurfaced as a serious contender.
So we can keep on going on, but it just goes on to show that science is absolutely including
it now.
And actually with the introduction of what was it like 150, 200 years ago of quantum mechanics
and looking at things on the tiny level, that just by paying a little bit of attention
to it can absolutely change its structure.
So yeah, pretty, pretty wild.
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If anybody knows anything about Lou Ellen, they create like a lot of, they're a publisher.
So they create a lot of mystical and spiritual books.
It's like the best mystical spiritual publisher that is out there today in my opinion.
And maybe I would be lucky enough to be published by them one day once I have time to create
a book and everybody has time.
It's an excuse.
I do plan on getting to it, but anyhow.
So they wrote an article, it says, how and why to awaken the animus spirit in your magic.
So this I'm trying to cover all areas here, whether you want to look at it scientifically,
magically, historically, philosophically, trying to bridge the gap to all of these things
to bring a little bit of substance to it, because I know that everybody looks at things
through much, much different lenses.
But I mean, dude, even look at it like this, Jesus, your boy in Christianity for all the
Christians out there says, turn over a stone and I am there, okay?
Maybe a little animistic of him, which I love animistic.
That's a cool word.
So here we go, it says when people feel ill at ease, there's a tendency to reach for
things that help you feel grounded, more safe and stable.
This is true for people of any background as it is for people who follow witchcraft.
One of the trends in witchcraft that some have noted is that it is during times of the
greatest social upheaval when increases have occurred in the popularity of the craft.
The craft can be a powerfully seductive force.
If you're someone who falls outside of what the dominant culture has deemed is acceptable,
the allure of the craft can be particularly poignant.
It's empowering to find a worldview that says, not only are you powerful, but here are
the tools for empowering yourself further and having a wonderful fulfilling life no matter
what anyone else has to say.
And each time witchcraft surges in popularity, it trends a little different.
The era creates the witch it needs, witches of today have different methods of communication,
different pressures and different needs than witches did when I was a teenager and young
adult coming up in the 90s and 2000s, which in turn were different than those of the 70s
and 80s and so on.
But even with the differences, there are enough similarities that witches across generations
will recognize one another, the formality or informality of ritual notwithstanding which
craft has always had its own particular flavor.
Animism is one such trend within the craft and beyond that's emerging now.
Animism is, by my definition, the practice of recognizing, communicating and working
with the other than human beings in the natural and spirit world.
It acknowledges the will, desires and inherent rights that other beings in our world have
and is behind many of the legal rights of nature arguments that have become popular
in recent years.
You may recall recently hearing something about a river that was legally given personhood
status.
What?
And thus all the legal protections that it offers.
That river, the wanguni in New Zealand, was actually followed by several others including
some in Canada and in the United States.
Wow, given personhood to rivers, which is amazing.
In some ways, animism has always been there, bubbling below the surface, a force actively
stirring the cauldron of the craft.
There has always been animus within which craft and there have always been animus leanings
even amongst those who would have never labeled themselves as such, spirit partnerships,
magic animal companionship, and creating relationships with plants, animals, stones
and trees are all animistic and tone and very often practice.
And why now?
What about our particular time?
Has people viewing TikTok videos with hashtag animus tags more than six million times?
There are probably multiple factors, including the biggest one, which is environmental existentialism,
the fear of what our future looks like because of the environmental changes, but the general
culture, estrangement from the natural world that has become increasingly pervasive over
recent years is another factor.
Also, when I've talked to witches about what concerns them, there's a strong sense that
we as humans have lost the script on what it means to be a part of the world.
So like I said, I'm not trying to turn this into an environmental thing, but it has
to be brought up because if we have a relationship with our reality, then there is no need for destruction
for the sake of whatever government plan you're using, capitalism, communism, all the
same shit, right?
Because giant systems don't care about the land.
They don't care about everything around us.
This is getting back to a more person by person basis of our relationship to the nature
of our reality.
And of course, whenever you go and you put all of these alleged, you know, brainiacs inside
of a think tank, and they're like, well, what we could do here is we can dig up all this
oil and expect it not to have any problems with the land.
It's like, it's probably there for a reason.
I don't know.
I mean, it just makes sense to me anyhow.
So they say that the immediacy of TikTok videos notwithstanding, it takes a long time
to cultivate the relationships required to fully work the practice.
But in that slowness, in that slowness is a kind of beauty.
Why would you want another part of your life that feels like the rest of your frantic
and chaotic parts in a culture that summons the old refrain that who has time for dot,
dot, dot, making time for yourself and your practice feels like taking a meaningful
stand.
Plus, when people at work ask what you do in your free time, you might be able to say,
I hang out with birds, or I sit in quiet communication with mugwort.
It can be quite liberating and funny to see their reactions.
The deeper reason behind the way of it, though, is that we actually need it.
In our craft, we need more people who are centering the importance of developing relationships
with beings with whom we work.
As the informal survey of which friends I mentioned earlier revealed, we're out of touch
and need to remember what it means to be part of our living world.
We as humans bear a particular responsibility because of our ability to impact our planet
on such an enormous scale.
It means making different choices and it definitely means taking greater accountability
for our species.
We as witches bear the burden of understanding that there's a deeper metaphysical responsibility.
I can't speak for all witches, but I know for my own part that dead or alive will always
be part of this universe.
I'll always be interconnected with all the beings who occupy it above, below, and in between.
My animus witchcraft serves as a guiding star to ensure that while I might not always
succeed at fulfilling my responsibility, I am aware of it and I'm making efforts to
center it.
It goes into how to connect animistically, which is very, very interesting.
I kind of want to get on that.
I'll just go over the bullet points here.
First and foremost, you need to connect with yourself.
That's the most important thing because if you don't know yourself, you're not going
to know anything that is outside of yourself.
I mean that on a microcosmic level because macrocosmicly we're all one thing, but at least
in this concept, you need to identify who you are and then you'll be able to, the next
bullet point is you'll be able to connect with your home and you'll be able to connect
with the land, connect with the residents of the land, connect with the history of where
you live and so on.
After a while, you're going to start to feel some kind of communication.
Maybe it won't be English verbal or what have you, but there will be general noses and
thoughts that seem like they're not necessarily yours, per se.
That's what we're talking about here.
If we live in a field of thought and consciousness in the quantum field or in the field of conscious,
whatever you want to call it.
But that energy and those vibrations, those sounds which we may interpret as feelings or
thoughts or emotions are our surroundings communicating with us in one way or another,
which is why I wanted to say earlier, I just went down a hallway, it was going to a bathroom
and I felt like I had to throw up, didn't feel like that before, didn't feel like that
whenever I walked out.
It was my surrounding communicating with me, I fully believe that.
So let's carry on here and so everything is alive, but it's not equally necessarily.
And I don't mean that anything is greater or lesser than anything, but I think that there
are aspects of awareness within all there is in consciousness.
So it's not like a hierarchy per se because everything is everything, but at the same time,
there are higher degrees of awareness.
And of course, there are higher degrees of awareness even above us in which some people
might say that that's exactly what's on the other side of this, you know, of the in the
spirit realm, call it in the spirit realm, the angelic realm, the astral world, whatever
you want to call it, there are even greater awarenesses of this reality and other realities
beyond even what we can perceive.
It's just an aspect that is on that sliding scale of awareness.
And that is where I believe you get like certain dimensions where you start talking about
certain dimensions and certain densities and so on.
But yes, it's quite awesome whenever you start thinking about it that way.
So consciousness exists in degrees, not necessarily as a binary state in mere ones and zeros,
as that idea seems somewhat archaic in and of itself with the discovery of the quantum
world in which they suggest that it's more likely more than just ones and zeros and maybe
more like variations of the combination like instead of one and instead of one or zero,
it's one and zero and it's more like a like a sliding variable connecting the two digits
instead of separating them.
So instead of a one or zero, you'll get one and a zero and a one and a zero and like
a combination of the digits.
So it might sound kind of crazy, but there is no what they're finding is that there is
no such thing even as a singular digit within the quantum realm that there are just many
combinations of the digits and so on.
And of course, this is still new and it's and it's understanding and discovery and whatnot.
It's only going to keep growing like we're not going back, I wouldn't say.
So and and also how about the minerals and the plants and the animals, they and humans,
of course, all participate in some variable sliding pole of awareness itself, ancient
animism also viewed all things as possessing a spirit and this aligns with modern ideas
of distributed consciousness.
Reality may be a spectrum of awareness rather than alive versus dead.
Everything exists on a pole or a spectrum of sorts.
So and and now I want to say RIP to the death of the mechanical universe, the separate
universe because there are so many different ideas that connect all of this together.
This one's described the universe as a machine made of inert matter, a nothing inert by
the way, consciousness was believed to be produced by the brain nature became something
to measure and control and not to relate to this created a disconnect between humans
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However, advances in physics began to challenge this mechanical model.
So that is where you get the observer effect.
So in quantum experiments, it shows particles behave differently whenever they're observed
the double slit, right?
Measurements appear to influence our physical reality and particles exist as probabilities
until observed.
They're not they're not fully collapsed into the thing that they're going to become once
we observe them yet.
They exist in a state of probabilities or possibilities until we give them attention,
which anybody that's ever been sitting on a couch at night with the lights off, you know
damn well, you saw something out of the corner of your eye until you look over it at look
over at it and nothing's there.
You're like something definitely existed as a probability right in that point, right?
That's what it feels like.
So reality may not be fully independent of consciousness.
This is of course according to the observer effect, which raises the question, does awareness
actually shape reality?
So of course, we got to get into quantum entanglement and interconnection.
So entangled particles remain connected across vast differences, a change in one instantly
affects the other.
So this challenges the idea of separation in space and it heavily suggests a deeply
interconnected reality, which just so happens to mirror the ancient beliefs of a universal
connection, which is exactly what we're talking about here.
Now, to take this even a step farther for all of you science torques out there, which
I get totally understandable, how about your boy, Masaru?
I can never know how to say his name, Imodo, Imodo with all the experiments in the water
and speaking words into the water and freezing it and whatever, right?
So Imodo was a Japanese researcher or is, is he still alive?
I don't know.
Japanese researcher who became famous for experiments on water crystals in the 90s and 2000s and
he claimed that human interaction, intention, words and emotions could physically affect
water structure.
So he would photograph frozen water crystals after exposing them to different stimuli.
So he had these water samples and he exposed them to positive words like love and gratitude,
negative words like hate and you fool.
He would expose it to music such as classical versus heavy or aggressive tones, expose it
also to spoken intention or prayer and then he would freeze them and examine them under
a microscope.
This is my shit.
Anybody that's ever looked into this, fascinating.
And I did this experiment myself, which I'll talk about here in a minute.
So what he claimed to find was positive intention would equal beautiful symmetrical snowflake
like crystals within the water, a negative intention, however, I hate you, you fool, you suck,
you're less than me, whatever it is.
And the water would be frozen, looking very distorted, very chaotic and very incomplete
formations.
Nothing beautiful about it.
It can't exist for very long.
It's going to be very incomplete.
And so then, so what else?
So we had the, you would have clean natural water.
So think about it like this without even having any intention or speaking any words to it,
the state of the water itself would form very differently when frozen.
So whenever you look at clean natural water, whether it be by reverse osmosis or whatever
clean source of water you can get it from, it would be structured and harmonious when
frozen.
However, if the water was polluted, like some of these brown murky ass rivers that we
got in this country and around the world, the water crystals would be disorganized and
fragmented.
I think that's has something.
So why, why all this even matters is that instead of saying that this proves that water
has feelings, which some people might think, oh, that's too, woo, woo, that's too crazy.
Come on.
It's just water, man.
What it actually suggests is something even crazier.
And that is, is that matter may be influenced by consciousness itself.
The structure may emerge from information and not, not only just chemistry, what people
used to think.
So reality might be more interactive than we've been taught.
And how I want to bridge this all to animism is by taking the ancient belief that the
indigenous and ancient cultures had, where they believe that rivers have spirits, water
can be blessed or cursed, words and rituals affect nature.
So instead of saying it how they would say it and do a modern reframe of it, we would
say instead of saying that the river has a spirit, you could say that the river is
a responsive system and it reacts to vibration, intention and interaction.
Now that might even seem woo, woo, to anybody else, but the, but the awesome part about
all of this is that it is provable.
And you can't hide intention whenever you're speaking it into water.
It will call you out in spades, baby.
So good or bad.
So I did this experiment one time whenever I first learned about it years ago and I thought
oh my god, if this is real and this could be a way that I can prove, because I was always
trying to prove shit to Jacob from the cult of conspiracy because he didn't believe in
shit poor guy, you know, you feel bad for people, just don't believe anything.
I mean, he believed in religion, of course, but he took it literal.
So it's not really much belief there.
But anyway, I said, I'm going to prove this.
And so what I did was I held a bowl of water and I said, I want this water to fully encompass
me in these water crystals, whatever I am, whatever I represent, whatever is associated
with me, I want it to be all me right here.
And it wasn't necessarily like, you know, me being full of myself or anything like that.
It was more of a, I wanted to see what my thoughts, words, intentions and feelings to this
water, how it would manifest or maybe even what the water thought about me.
So I did it, held it, set a, you know, a little induction or ritual or prayer or whatever
over it.
And I put it in the freezer for the night, woke up the next morning, totally forgot about
it, actually left it in there for a few days.
But I went back and I pulled it out of the freezer and I was like, wait a second.
Did this actually work?
I pulled it out, dude.
It was a picture of two M's, two M's, which is insane to me for a multitude of reasons
because my daughter's initials, mm, the initials of my podcast, mm, it's like insane to me.
And so maybe you'll have to do it again.
And maybe I interpreted it wrongly.
It kind of looked like mountains stacked up on top of each other instead of just mms,
maybe just mountain peaks.
I don't know.
I think I'm going to have to do it again.
But anyway, so the big idea about all of this, whenever it comes to animism, is that
everything is alive and emotes work, even if it's only partially true, suggests that
everything is responsive.
And those might be the same thing just described in different languages.
So to tie in to panpsychism and quantum thought, if consciousness is fundamental according
to panpsychism, then matter isn't dead, it's participating.
So water becomes a carrier of information, a mirror of intention, and a medium between
mind and matter.
Remember, we're 80% water.
We're doing it to ourselves all day, whenever we think, whenever we identify as all
this shit is crystallizing within our body.
And then being mirrored out into the world, that's how it's all happening.
We are creating internally through our intention to our own water system of which our blood
is made up of mostly.
And then, and then fucking mirroring out into the real world, and we wonder why we're
always anxious.
We wonder why shit just seems to go wrong all the time if it's not one thing, it's another.
If it's not one shoe drop and it's the other, that's just my life.
Well, yeah, because that's what you're creating internally.
So anyway, easier said than done, of course, you know, applying all of this to our lives
is, you know, it's a lot, you know, it's like learning a new language.
But it's the most pure authentic in natural language we can ever have.
As humans, as trees, as specks of dirt, as blades of grass, as raindrops.
If it's all just consciousness and varying levels of awareness, then shouldn't we be communicating
with other people and not just other people, but other things and the whole nature of our
reality?
You know, is it really that crazy?
I don't know, dude.
Well, and as far as the water goes, you're mostly water.
So what are your thoughts doing to your own body?
Think about prayer in ritual might not be superstition.
It might be an interaction with the chemicals and the water and everything else within your
body.
So instead of the world being dead matter, it might be listening.
And the ancient, the ancient shamans, you really think about it, they didn't need no
fucking microscopes to show what quantum entanglement looks like, aka the Yang Yang.
They experienced all this shit directly.
They had direct internal noses of all of these things because they were connected to their
reality, connected to their nature.
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So now I want to get to modern day philosophers are now seeing it as such.
So think about it like this.
There used to be this whole, this whole problem about the hard problem of consciousness.
Can't prove it so stupid look around.
It's everywhere.
If it predates all physical matter, then the proof is literally everywhere, right?
So I love, first of all, I do love ancient philosophers as well.
You know, we talk about plenty of them all the time, but I like the modern day ones too
because they're applying new science and new thought to new philosophy.
And what you're seeing here is an absolute cycle of information being understood and internalized
by the new philosophers that were once thought of from from the ancient philosophers.
So how about your boy Philip Goff currently?
And he's probably he's actually the modern face, the face of modern panpsychism and he's
the author of this book called Galileo's error.
And he argues that science removed consciousness from reality to make math easier.
Wow, that's, that's special.
Anyway, it says he says that we need, we now need to put consciousness back into the foundation
of physics.
How about Bernardo Castro?
He says, and he goes even farther with panpsychism and he claims that reality is entirely mental.
Matter is what consciousness looks like from the outside is his quote matter is what consciousness
looks like from the outside, dude, come on now, preach.
And he calls his view analytic idealism, analytic idealism, panpsychism, animism, we're talking
the same thing here, essentially, he also works, so, oh yeah, this next guy is Christ
off.
I don't know if it's coach, cock, K-O-C-H, I don't know how you'd say that.
Maybe we'll just go coach, just to not be weird about it.
But he is actually a philosopher and a neuroscientist and he works on integrated information theory
called IIT, which suggests that consciousness exists wherever there is integrated information.
Okay, meaning that even simple systems have some level of experience, imagine.
And the list goes on, but to continue, panpsychism proposes all matter has some form of awareness,
where it was once dismissed, it's now gaining serious attention and it addresses the hard
problem of consciousness from people like philosopher David Chalmers, who's the one that
coined the term, the hard problem of consciousness, but even David Chalmers, the guy who created
the term, he's questioning it.
Whenever he asked this one simple question, why does experience exist at all?
And now even he is open to the idea of panpsychism as a serious possibility.
He didn't fully commit to it, of course, but he opened the door to it.
And all of this echoes ancient beliefs that everything contains spirit.
It's not that crazy.
So to bridge it all together, ancient insight means modern science will say, animism
describes a living conscious world, Blavatsky, how we were just talking a little bit about
her earlier, describes a layered structure of consciousness.
Quantum physics reveals an interconnected and responsive reality and modern day philosophers
are circling back to what the ancients have said from the very beginning.
And the cool thing is is that each perspective approaches the same idea from different angles.
They may all be describing the same underlying truth.
So do we live in a living universe?
I believe so.
If consciousness is fundamental, the entire universe may be alive.
Humans would be participants within a conscious field and not separate observers.
Everything may be interacting at a deeper level than we perceive.
This intention could play a role in reality, could, I believe they do.
But at bare minimum, could and spirits and fields may be different words for the same
damn thing.
So maybe the ancients weren't imagining a world filled with spirits.
Maybe they were perceiving a living reality.
Maybe Blavatsky was rediscovering a forgotten framework of consciousness, an older lens
to view reality from.
Maybe Quantum physics isn't revealing something new, but instead it's bringing us back to
what we once knew.
So talk to that old grandfather clock as if it can hear you.
Tell your couch how comfy it is and thank it for giving your back and feet a break.
Remind your bed how much you love it.
Tell your Roomba how amazing of a little cleaner it is.
Thank that bookshelf for holding all the amazing stories you haven't yet had the time to
read yet because it may just be listening.
Yeah, dude, this, this goes really far.
So I hope you guys really enjoy that kind of conversation.
I'm going to start really digging in deep with a lot of these kind of philosophical ancient
and scientific combinations here because I know many people come from many different walks
of life, but I really just wanted to show that it's really not that crazy and we're
all saying the same thing in different languages.
And maybe if you can learn how to connect with the nature of your reality, you would never
feel disconnected.
You know, you would never feel like you're not home.
You would never feel like I don't, I don't believe in that or I don't know what to believe
any of this nonsense.
It is you.
You are the field.
You are existing in the field.
You're not separate from it.
It's like, you know, a character or an avatar within, you know, Grand Theft Auto saying,
I don't belong in here.
You created for that game, homie.
You wouldn't exist if it wasn't for that game.
I'm not even saying that's exactly what's happening.
I'm just throwing out of theory.
I don't know what I don't know.
This is just how my brain is trying to work with all this information.
And I think that it adds value to your life.
I think it adds value to your things, adds value to your relationships.
Not only just with humans and pets, but inanimate objects as crazy as it sounds.
Could be a varying level of awareness in that.
And thus your relationship to it could allow for some kind of responding in one way or another.
I'm not saying something crazy.
I mean, maybe I am, but I'm not trying to sit here and say, maybe you should marry your
computer or something stupid like that.
Don't get crazy now.
I'm just saying, what if you looked at certain objects all around you and instead of looking
at them like they're lesser or not the same or not part of what you deem as real or
conscious?
What if we did?
That's all I'm saying.
I think that's probably how psychics go to work, if I'm being real.
I think that's how that's the lens of which they look through.
It only makes sense because they're just reading the field.
If you think about what are those psychics called whenever they hold something in their
hand and like a memory, a memory of where the object was comes straight into their mind
as if the thing that they're holding is communicating information back to them.
So is it really that crazy?
How are they right most of the time?
How is that possible?
The panpsychism or animism isn't going on.
It must be.
This is all a field.
It's all an illusion and we believe that we're separate.
This might be the bridge that gets us back to interweaving ourselves into our realities
rather than being separate from it.
So you know it's time for a terror reading and let's see if that tarot card has a little
message for us today.
All right, we are back with that tarot card that just came out and hopefully it applies
to the episode but more so to each individual that is listening to this episode.
What we got is the six of Pentacles as you can see right here if you're watching on Patreon.
And it looks like a man is standing above two people and as the other two people are kneeling
kneeling in front of him and he's holding a Libra scale in one hand and giving to others
what seems to be some Pentacles or food or something like that in the other hand.
And just kind of showing the scales of justice and being fair to everybody.
So let's go to our handy dandy book here and it says the six of Pentacles is giving and
receiving opens the flow of prosperity in your life.
Always give what you would like to receive.
Your med with generosity and even exchange when you draw the six of Pentacles in this
card, a wealthy man offers coins to two people who are kneeling before him.
His body position is above theirs yet he holds a scale in his hand as a reminder that
equality is important as is sharing what you have with those who have less.
This card is much is as much about giving generously as it is about receiving graciously.
Altruistic and genuine acts of support are the hallmarks of this card.
The spiritual message says an inheritance or unexpected gift is coming to you or you
are considering, considering donating to charity or someone in need.
Considering, consider passing along items from your closet or home to those in need since
doing so will create space to receive from other sources, which is really great because
the whole, you know, kind of meaning of this card is harmony and generosity.
I mean, what if, of course, once you stop identifying as separate from every other atom
in your reality, once you stop identifying as that, you're now working in harmony with
it.
And maybe, maybe this is where offerings to spirits really was once birthed because they
said, look, I know you're real.
I know you're out there.
And so maybe if I just pour one out for you, or if I light this sage or if I light this
incense, and then of course, it gets taken to a whole another level where they're like
sacrificing cows and goats and shit, it's I, which I believe is way too far personally.
I'm not going to sacrifice an animal unless I'm going to eat it.
It's like, you know, I think maybe people took it a little bit too far.
Why would you sacrifice nature for nature, it makes no sense.
And so that's kind of where I'm going with it unless it's actually, you know, I don't
know.
I know that there are some people out there that are like against eating animal meat and
stuff like that.
And I actually do sort of understand it.
And maybe eventually one day, I go full on vegetarian.
Santos Benace is doing it and he looks healthy as all hell.
So I mean, it's not his itching problem, but I think that's more of a mental thing.
But either way, point is is that, you know, it's all about working in harmony with the
rest of your reality.
That means working in harmony with people living in your house, people that anybody that
you're ever around, but not only just people and pets, but also everything else around
you as well.
And maybe that's kind of the true nature of our reality, living in harmony with it.
You know, so yeah, the six of Pentacles generosity, shared wealth, giving and receiving, prosperity,
financial support and stability is where we go with this bad boy.
So anyhow, look, we're going to wrap this bad boy up and would really appreciate if you
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This is a fun episode and hopefully kind of enlightening a little bit or maybe at least
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