3AW Mornings with Tom Elliott - Wed 09 Sep, 2026 - Full Show

0:00Now, until noon, this is Mornings with Tom Elliott. It is 25 to 9. Good morning. Well, it's a new day here in Victoria. What do I say there? Well, finally, it looks like the state government is going to do something about illegal tobacco sales. Now, we've been talking about this for quite some time now. Essentially criminals who have grabbed about 80% some estimates say of the tobacco market. And that means rather than the federal governments and all of its businesses getting money, criminal gangs are getting money. We are funneling hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars, into organized crime. Anyway, this morning, that apparently comes to an end. I have in front of me a media release from the state government that says doors slammed on illicit tobacco, tobacco licensing in Victoria and Victoria Police. Now, I have the power to shut down illegal tobacco operators. They talk about fines of up to two and a half million dollars and imprisonment

1:02of up to 20 years in jail. So this is all good to a point. But they've got to actually go out and do it. Like I said, good saying, we don't like illegal tobacco. We want to shut down this terrible industry. Like I would like to think this morning that offices from tobacco licensing in Victoria and from Victoria Police actually start shutting down shops. And there's hundreds of them. Maybe there's even thousands, no one quite knows. But the point is it's everywhere. It's not a secret. There's a tram I catch regularly. You get off at the tram stop on Brunswick Street in Fitzroy. There's an illegal tobacco shop right there. All right. So it is obvious. They wouldn't have even have to travel that far to start shutting them down. So let's see what happens. And will this make a dent in the criminal gangs? Obviously, it's no good just trying to shut down the illegal cells of tobacco because the other half of the equation is changing the exercise on legitimate cigarettes. Now, essentially, lowering the profit gap between the 50 to 60 dollar legitimate cigarettes and the 10 to 12

2:07dollars of the illegal ones. And both one nation and the coalition wants to lower the tobacco exercise. The federal labor government just has it's hate in the sand about this issue. And as I've said many times before, it's probably one of the biggest and most obvious public policy failures in this country because it is so profitable to smuggle in and sell illegal tobacco. Some criminal gangs have given up on drugs in the sense that drugs are less profitable than cigarettes. And the fight back starts apparently today, we will see. One of the three six nine three mornings at 3aw.com.au. Now, on the program on Monday, we had the premier Ben Carroll in the studio. And I didn't know then, but I do know now that he's trying to water down the iBac reforms. So the proposal from Ben Carroll and his government is to say that anything that the weak version of iBac has already investigated, like, you know, just central islands,

3:11rather than corruption on the big build, can't be investigated again. Now, would you believe, and this doesn't happen very often, the Greens are opposing this. And I support the Greens. I can't believe I'm saying it, but it's true. We're going to speak to Victorian Greens leader Ellen Sandell later on in the program about this. But it is no good if i back needed to be reformed, if it needed extra powers, which it does to follow the money to say, well, well, they already investigated XYZ in the past. Therefore, this new version of iBac can't go back to it. That is ridiculous. The old iBac couldn't follow the money. It couldn't really complete the investigation. It couldn't, for example, see if 15 billion dollars had been siphoned out of the big build to go into organized crime. So the new iBac cannot be hamstrung by anything that the old iBac looked at because the old iBac didn't have the powers to do very much. Now, Ben Carroll, I imagine here, is desperately trying to protect the reputation of Jacinta Allen and before her Daniel Andrews.

4:11But if he's good to his word, if he says, I'm different, I'm not then this is a new Victorian government that I leave, lead. Then if we're going to give iBac extra powers, allow iBac to go back and reopen previous investigations into corruption on the big build amongst other things. Well, have a look at that, but the Greens are opposing Ben Carroll, and on this iSupport the Greens. There you go. You won't hear me say that very often, but I'm saying it today. 1.336.3. Mornings.38w.com.au Also, while we're on the subject of the government regulating things, the federal government wants to have further tech regulation. Now, last year, of course, we had the ban on social media for under 16. But I argue that's had limited success in that 15, 14, 13 year olds, we really wanted to engage with social media, generally found ways around the ban, and there's all sorts of ways you could do it. I mean, some kids with older siblings just used to picture of their older sibling to fool the tech. But anyway, that was one thing that the federal government did. It is now, again, asking big tech, you know, the likes of Facebook and

5:16Instagram and so forth, to regulate their algorithms, to allow people, I believe, to opt out of the algorithm and only follow things that they want to follow. Now, I'll be honest, I don't fully understand what the government's trying to do here. I get the intent that you don't want, you know, social media to be throwing things at you in which you have no interest. And some of those things might be quite terrible things. But I don't really understand how it works. We're going to speak to a tech expert later on, but there will be further regulation of technology to keep all of us safe. 1.336.3. Mornings at 3aw.com.au. If I don't move before we go to calls, we're going to speak to a prominent Sydney auctioneer later on in the program. He's said, and I quote, that young people need to stop eating out, stop going to restaurants and cafes and so forth, if they want to save enough money to buy their first time. Now, over years ago, someone else said, you know, you've got to stop eating smashed avocado on toast if you want to buy a house. Like go to settle home and smash your own

6:20avocado if that's what you want to do. And I was trying to recall, you know, me back in the early 90s when I was in my mid 20s, I don't reckon we ever went to restaurants. So if we did, it was a very occasional thing. And did don't cafes. We simply didn't have the money back then. Unemployment was very high and, you know, people drove old cars like I had a car that was made in 1969 or 1970 and that was in the 90s. So it was more than 20 years old. But that was just normal at the time. And socialising wasn't done in expensive night clubs or restaurants. It was a simply done at people's houses. You know, we used to take turns having a Barbie or cooking dinner. And, you know, when I say cooking dinner, it was pretty, you know, low stuff. I mean, we just spank bog or something like that. But the point was it was a cheap way to socialise. Now these days, a lot of young people do want to go to restaurants and they're obsessed with food. They take photographs of it. They put it up on social media. Look at this. Look at what I ate last night. Look at this amazing cocktail I had. Dada, Dada. Doing all that costs a lot of money. And what this auctioneer

7:22is saying is that you have a choice. Yes, you can live in the moments and enjoy all the good things that life has to offer. But you'll probably spend all your money and you'll never save a deposit for a house. Or you can full go those sorts of things for a few years, get a house and get on the property ladder. Anyway, it's a prominent Sydney based auctioneer. We'll speak to him later on on the program too. One of the three six, nine three mornings at threeaw.com.au. Let's go to some calls. Trevor, hello. Morning, John. Hey, good trip. I remember just thinking about six months ago on your show. Where was he charging? He's speculating to cigarette shop the legal one. So they only had 16 speakers. So where did they get this and speakers all the time? It's a very good question, Trevor. I don't know. I assume they've hired some people. But there were some areas where it was left up to the local council Trevor. So you were sending local council inspectors to go up against organized criminals. And of course they didn't want to do that. Another question, tell me, if I've got a shop and I run it out to you,

8:24do you sell cigarettes and the shop gets burnt down? And what kind of a front insurance? Good question. But something I can tell you, if you are a landlord of a shop and the shop sells illicit tobacco and you refuse to shut it down, you as the landlord could go to jail for up to 20 years and you can face a fine of up to $2.5 million. So they're not just going after the people who run the shops. They're going after the landlords who rent them out. So that could really hurt. All right, thank you, Trevor. Well, try and get some more detail about this. I mean, tobacco losses in Victoria or suddenly sprung into existence. Victoria Police has these new powers. I mean, we did speak to Mike Bush about this, the Chief Commission a few months ago. And he gave me the impression he thought that going after illegal tobacco was sort of like a low order priority for him. Now, maybe it's gone back up because it needs to. I mean, we've got firebombs, we've got criminals who are sitting in each other on fire shops that are being firebombed. Other businesses like in Victoria Street Richmond, legitimate businesses which have been burnt down because someone targeted

9:28in illegal tobacco shop. And the whole thing, you know, it is a criminal enterprise and it is run by organized crime. They smuggle the cigarettes in. They sell them. They make a huge amount of money. It has to be shut down. Anyway, we will see. Ian, good morning. Yeah, good morning Tom. How are you going? Yeah, good. I, Tom, there seems to be a lot of talk about the illegal cigarettes at grassroots level, but we don't see really hearing much about what the federal government is doing about the importation of them from a customs and exercise point of view out there on the walls. We don't see really hear much about them. We hear about his work. You're right. And, and I mean, we spoke to Angus Taylor about this early in the week. Maybe it was late last week. And I mean, he's obviously the opposition leader, but he said there were sort of three things we have to do. Go after the shops that sell them. Well, that's what the state government is now doing. Beef up, border force, the stop the cigarettes coming in in the first place and you're quite right. We haven't had anything

10:30from the government about that. And we have to dramatically lower the exercise or the tax on cigarettes so that they become cost competitive with the criminal ones. And the government has it's hit him the sand. So we've got support with the state government with tobacco license in Victoria is going to do here, but it is only part of the equation. One of the three six, nine, three mornings at three AW.com.au. Pretty more calls and emails coming up straight after nine o'clock you're going to speak to a professor in criminology. Will inspectors from tobacco license in Victoria have organized crime, quaking in its collective boots. And at nine thirty, the Greens leader, Ellen Sandell joins us. She doesn't do it very often, but she and I agree on something today. And that's something is that I back cannot be restricted by the premier Ben Carroll. But double three, six, nine, three, out of quarter to nine. It is 11 to nine emails coming in mornings at three AW.com.au.com.au. Regarding tobacco licensing and enforcement, Ian says enforcement is the key and these new state

11:33laws will help, but to go into a bidding war season with organized crime and the price of cigarettes is not the solution. Well, on Friday and I disagree, if legitimate cigarettes were cheap, there would be no smuggling. All right. And everybody knows that smoking is bad for you and you know, we have a choice. As it is, smoking is going up because the cheap illegal cigarettes are available. So we can buy the bullet and say, well, we'd rather you buy the legitimate cigarettes and pay some tax to the government or we can continue to fund hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars to organize crime. And Margaret, on one nation's state leader Warren Pickering, says he might have given up tipping into drugs, but what about testing all politicians for drugs today? I'm going to play some audio about Warren Pickering later on. He's confessed to using like four different illegal drugs, who's almost in tears about it. He's daughter up on the stage. Heidi Murphy was at his press conference. We'll speak with her as well. Look, I think we'd leave. You know, he said, he said words

12:34the effect of I was a young man, I did things. I'm not proud of them. I think people would forgive that these days. And when we all did things in our younger years that perhaps as we get all of it, what on earth was I think you? Anyway, wonderful. Three, six, nine, three. Mary joins us. Mary, good morning. Good morning, Tom. How are you? Very well. Thank you, Mary. Tom, I'd like to know where the general public can report illegal tobacco shops, because we've had three pop up in the Bayside area over the last couple of months. Yeah. And I tried to go to crime stoppers. There's nowhere on there to report them. It's not the police that are investigating them. Is there an avenue for the general public to report these shops that just pop up over nice? The answer is a qualified yes, Mary. And I'll tell you why. So I mentioned before, I've got this media release from both from Police Minister Paul Edbrook and the Minister for Gaming and Lickery Regulation in Verirdigan.

13:37They've got a website that say if you want to report to a specialist activity, go to vik.gov.au forward slash tobacco dash licensing. Now, I can't guarantee that anybody's looking at that website or that anything will be done, but at least there is a website where you can report a store. So vik.gov.au forward slash tobacco dash licensing. Good luck with it, Mary. But you don't have to look too hard to find illegal tobacco shops everywhere. Dean, good morning. Good morning, Thomas. Look, it's been Carol that over here, Russ, character of a politician, ever thought that he could fool the electorate, he's got to be sadly mistaken. These are the announcements of a royal commission to back now, to back our enforcement. How is going to fix the world's greatest part hole invasion of all times? He's simply doing his job. He's making out that he's actually doing something far beyond what the capabilities of any other political party could do. He has

14:40mucked it up as a two I see in the past so badly that the electorate will not accept or believe for one moment that he is doing any extraordinary. He should have done a long time back top. No, no, you hit the nail on the head. I mean, there's two schools of thought about being Carol. One is that he is truly different. He's a different labour premier. He's not just into Alan and he's not down Andrews. He will fix these things that so obviously need to be fixed like illegal tobacco and pot holes and crime and so forth and corrupts on the big build. The other school thought is these desperate to win the election. Desperate not to lose too many votes to people like you or from people like you. He hopes that we'll buy it. I agree with you, Dean. I don't think people will be fooled by this. It's not to say that being Carol isn't genuine about it but you know, he had years as a senior minister, three years under just into Alan as Deputy Premier didn't do anything about it then. Thank you, Dean. Scotty, hello.

15:44Yeah, I was an on-face look at it. I had as companies advertising cigarettes delivered to your door. I just had a curiosity. Reported them to Facebook for a selling illegal product. And two days later, I got a thing back from Facebook saying it that meets community standards. So the boat is hailed, mate. It's gone. He joking. So Facebook looked at it and said, community standards support selling illegal cigarettes. Well, they don't realise that that person to the Australian business selling illegal product is straight. So it's a worldwide community standard. So you order them online, pay from these deliverables. It's extraordinary, Scotty, because I mean, as it so happens today, the federal government has announced this new policy to try and regulate the algorithm. Now, as I said before, I don't fully understand it. We'll speak to an expert later on, but it's supposed to stop nasty things in your feed. And I would have thought illegal cigarettes qualifies for that. Well, Scotty, that is very interesting. Look, down the line. We'll seek you in

16:45the running for the weekly word of the street prize, a $1,000 out of spend at Imp Jury, the handmade and remodeling specialist. And if you win this coming Friday, you'll also be in the draw for the yearly prize. 60 grand towards the Mercedes of your choice. Thanks to Mercedes Benz Brighton, where if you trade him a force of 10, 30, you receive a genuine and guaranteed $5,000 trade in bonus. Ian, good morning. Morning, Tom, I'm the same generation as you, and I'm going to have sound like an old grumpy fellow for all those young ones out there. But you and I compromised back then and went without. These days, they want everything now and just wind you about, they can't have it because last two hard, but I say it on the hard rubbish, $700 vacuum cleaners that have bugged TV, barbecues, we didn't have that stuff. Half the restaurants and cafes went around back then. But boy, we still will live long, didn't we? Well, well, well, we did. I mean, I didn't have a house with a dishwasher in it until almost 40 years old. I just be, I mean, what's the dishes by hand?

17:51All right. Thank you. We'll talk about this more later on. There's Soxnear from Sydney says, younger people have to give up eating out if they want to buy a home. And I reckon he's onto something at five tonight. The 9 o'clock news with David Armstrong was almost upon us. As I mentioned at the start of the program, there's a new thing out there, tobacco license in the Victorian, young children in the Victorian police. Apparently, they are shutting down tobacco shops as we speak. We'll speak to a professor in criminology after the news. Will this actually deter the criminals? One of a three, six, nine, three mornings at three A.W...com.au. Come and join us straight after the news. On three A.W. and across Victoria, this is Tom Elliott's. Some past time, wonderful three, six, nine, three, is the number to call and just draw a monitor, escape your pricey tow coat. Visit amacem.com for affordable mobile plans. Emails coming in on the illegal cigarette trade. David says, yes, we do need more

18:54border enforcement officers to make sure the cigarettes, the illegal ones, aren't being smuggled in in the first place. Look, I agree, David. It's a combination of better control of our borders, but that's difficult because only five to 10% of shipping containers are ever opened and actually surged. We do need to lower the exercise because it is the very hefty exercise on legitimate cigarettes that creates the profit margin for criminals. We need to have better enforcement on the ground, which is what the state government is doing today. tobacco licensing Victoria and Victoria police now have the powers to shut down illegal tobacco operators. We'll talk about that more in a moment. On regulating the algorithms, so that the federal government today has announced this plan to, I think people get to either opt out or opt in, but you'll have more control over what is fed to you on social media. Travis says, regulating the algorithm means they just want to hide everything they disagree with. Well, maybe.

19:56On young people stopping eating out in order to save for a home deposit, in about an hour's time, we're going to speak to a Sydney-based auctioneer who said, this is exactly what young people have to do. Forget restaurants, forget cafes, make your own meals, and put the money you save into an account to save up for a home deposit. Graham says, are you free spending youth? Don't forget numerous overseas trips. Again, that is true. overseas travel is cheaper than what it was 30 years ago. There were so many more airlines these days and you can travel more cheaply, even into state travel as cheaper too. But again, a lot of young people think it is just normal to go overseas at least once a year if not twice. Again, back in the day, an overseas trip was something you might do once in a decade. Brad, good morning. Good morning, Tom. How are you? Yeah, pretty good, Brad. That's the way. Look, with the new legislation in regards to owners of shops for the

21:03run by the legal tobacco, if I'm an owner and I have my shop released through an estate agent, and then I find out they're selling illegal tobacco, I can't go in and kick them out. It's my understanding that only the agent can do that. So, are real estate agents now implicated with potential fines and jailing? Is it a concern for the agents? Well, I mean, I can only go on this press release we've got from the government today, but it says that yes, you as the landlord, if you do not enforce a closure order, you yourself can face fines, hefty fines and potentially jail time. So, I would have to enforce the closure order via my agent. If the agent isn't successful, are they going to take that on? It's a huge complication for both landlord and potentially real estate agents. I agree, Brad. I mean, years ago, almost 20 years ago now, I had an investment property, which was an absolute pain to manage. It was like a sharehouse because there are quite a few rooms.

22:04And I never got the rent on time, nor was one month rent the same as the next month's rent. It was always a different amount, but I never met any of the tenants. It was completely handled by the local estate agents and not all that well, I might have. Well, look, Brad, yes, this is the thing that we have asked the government to come on today. We asked the minister for police poor, they'd broke he said no. We asked the minister for gaming and liquor regulation in the Erdogan. He said no as well, which is disappointing because this is an important issue. And the government, okay, to its credit changing things. But as you say, I mean, if you as a landlord rent your property out via a third party, which plenty of landlords do, and it so happens that the tenant is in fact selling illegal tobacco and you are unaware of it, is it fair that you face fines and maybe jail time? Anyway, we're trying to get to answers. I mean, all I've got is this press release from the state government. It simply doesn't answer these questions. And it's against the social professor in criminology at Deakin University, Dr James Martin, good morning. Good morning, Tom.

23:08Well, it seems to me that there's three legs to the illegal tobacco market. There's the easy ability to smuggle tobacco into Australia. There's the very high exercise, which makes legitimate cigarettes hugely expensive. And then there's the sort of openness or brazenness of selling the illegal cigarettes at hundreds of locations around the place. The state government is going after the tobacco shops or the illegal tobacco shops as of today. Do you think doing that will make a difference? No, no, I don't think it'll make a difference. And we've got pretty good evidence to just why. And that is that it's made very little difference in other states where it's been in place for some time now. We know that our new subliles, Queensland, for example, they all have store closure orders, but we're still seeing the trade expand in those locations as well. I mean, what if they win you and undercover? So, right, I'll give me a packet of these illegal cigarettes. I might mention the brand because I'm legally not allowed to, but we all know which one it is. It's the name of a city in the Midlands of the UK. And the person hands me it. I'm actually an undercover

24:14police officer. What if I could immediately confiscate all the cigarettes, all their cash, everything that's in the shop and arrest the person who sold it to me? I mean, with that sort of, almost violent action with that change things. No, no, no, I don't think it would. And the reason for that is while that would be bad news for that individual retailer who we should be mindful of, many retailers have actually been coerced into this trade, they've been threatened or extorted to. They might not be telling you stuff willingly. But the big problem is, if there's just so many other players, there's the shop three stores down that it's very happy to take your customers if their rivals are taking out by the government. And that's really what they're facing here. It's not like police can't take out any individual retailer or any individual trafficker. It's a scale problem. And they really aren't enough law enforcement resources that could ever be feasibly allocated either at the border or at the retail level to disrupt this trade. See, this is the problem because a few months ago,

25:18we spoke to Mike Bush on this program, the Chief Police Commission. I did ask him about going after illegal tobacco. And the impression I got was that for him, it was not the top of his priorities. You know, violent crime is more of a concern than selling cheap cigarettes. And so I just don't know how many resources the police will allocate to this. Yeah, well, that's right. I mean, I guess that is a question of the police minister. But what I can say is more broadly, over the 2010s, we tripled our drug law enforcement budget. And there was a six-fold increase at the border. And police have done their best with that money. Each year, they've produced record numbers of restricle volumes of seizures. But the problem is the markets themselves, the impact has been absolutely negligible. The list of drugs are just as easily as available as they were 15 years ago. But actually, it's significantly cheaper prices. So this suggests that organised crime groups within, inside these very large illicit markets are very adaptable. They can readily absorb the costs that are imposed on them by law enforcement. So we need to look for other solutions just

26:20relying on police to solve these problems using it at work. Okay, so what is the other solution? I mean, Angus Taylor and one nation have pretty much the same policy. They want to slash the exercise on cigarettes and sort of make legal cigarettes more cost competitive. And they want to beef up border force. But I mean, you know, if we did that with drugs and it didn't work, is there anything else we could or should be doing? Well, I think the discussion in the exercise is a good first step. I mean, the other thing that is often missing from the conversation in the nicotine spaces is that the importance of less harmful nicotine products. So we've got countries like the UK, New Zealand, Sweden, that these are really part of their public health arsenal where, you know, I mean, both the UK and New Zealand have free switch to quit vape schemes where we're vape to give them for free to smokers, tax backspents to get them to quit. And so, you know, we know that these less harmful products are what's potentially less harmful and really appealing to smokers. So I think that needs to be part of the solution as well.

27:23Right. So the policy we currently have where you have to have a prescription to get a vape and you have to go and buy it from a chemist like we should just, you know, deregulate that and have legitimate vapes sold at a reasonable price and sort of trying to get smokers to give up smoking tobacco and have a vape instead. Yeah, that's right. I mean, you know, I'm not suggesting a free for all, you know, every servo or 7-11 selling base. But life and trade retail is the same way we do with alcohol, for example, selling to over 18s. I think it's a very sensible step and has been used very successfully in other countries to get smoke rates down. But it sounds like that we're always putting on play catch up with the criminals because the criminals have this massive profit incentive. They will find ways to do things because, well, the profit is still there. Well, they can't really compete on price if we drop the exercise. The list at markets are very resilient, but that resilient comes at the cost of efficiency. You know, legal regulated markets in nearly all instances can supply equivalent goods for a cheaper price than black markets can.

28:25So I think the best way to fight a black market is to have a well-functioning legal one and not just for tobacco products, but preferably less harmful nicotine products as well. All right, thank you very much. Dr. James Martin, the Associate Professor in Crue and Ology at Deakin, Uni. And what he just said is consistent. I mentioned this a couple days ago, but I went to a charity loan slate last week and slyly underworld spike and he was asked a question about illegal tobacco. And he said, you know, the iron law of criminal enterprise is that where there is demand, there will always be supply. Now, there is demand for cheap cigarettes, but if legitimate cigarettes were cheap, as they used to be, you sort of should be able to drive the criminals out of business. The problem is people like the health minister, Mark Butler, that's the federal health minister and a lot of other politicians and health bodies have to get their heads out of the sand and admit that the very high exercise on cigarettes, which was designed eight arrays were over new and beta convinced people not to smoke. It is now kind of productive. All right,

29:27it has opened up this black market in the last few years and that is really, really bad. One of the three six time three mornings at threeaw.com.au. I heard one of your calls, your emails are going to play you some audio from one nation, Victoria, letter Warren Pickering. Admits to quite a history of drug use, four different drugs. It said while he was a young man, he's not proud of it now. And look, part of this is maybe one nation's appeal. They're not professional politicians. They do have admit to doing the wrong thing and say we're just ordinary people who make mistakes. I don't think it's going to cost him any popularity or any votes. Also, I heard young people give up the restaurants, give up the smash-davour, the cafe, save money for a deposit and something else has been bubbling along for a while and you might have read about this. So Brisbane, of course, is hosting the 2032 Olympics and they're going to have to get their skates on because they haven't built any of the infrastructure yet that they're going to need. And sure enough,

30:28it's only five and a bit years away now. But one of the big issues is the sport of rowing, which is a sport that's close to my heart, but it's not a big spectacle to sport. Anyway, for reasons that defy logic, the Queensland Government wants to have the rowing events up in North Queensland on the Fitzroy River. And amongst other things, the Fitzroy River is invested with saltwater crocodiles, which actually might make the rowing quite interesting because if someone falls out, they'll be leaving back into their boat fairly quickly. Anyway, the rowing community is up in arms. They just say this is ridiculous. Even the International Olympic Committee actually asked a month or so ago, will the crocodiles be pinned up? And they were told no of their wild animals. They go where they want to go. We're going to speak to a former member of the awesome, awesome Drew Gin about this. One of the three six, nine three, and your calls at 19 past nine. It is 22 past nine emails mornings at 3aw.com.au. Bredze has been caroled. There's no need to go too far to bring down tobacco shops illegal tobacco shops. They're apparently

31:31three of them right near his office on Kielor Road in Nidry. It was interesting. It was two days ago. 355 firefighters protested outside Ben Carroll's office. It was Monday. He wasn't there. He was in here. I think the protest was somewhat wasted. And on Warren Pickering, he's the Victorian leader of one nation. We spoke with him on this program about four weeks ago with Pauline Hanson. I'm going to play you a bit of his confession. A former partner. We're talking more than 20 years ago. Sydney was the sexual deviance and was a drug addict or drug user back in the day. Anyway, he sort of fessed up to all this. Trevor says, the man has turned his life around and been totally honest with the electric. I just hope you can do the job. Well, I guess we'll find out. Thank you Trevor. Andrew, good morning. Good morning Tom. I'm a GP who's an authorised prescriber of nicotine vapes. I get almost no demand for them because of course people can buy

32:36illegal tobacco much cheaper. But also I was chatting with some pharmacist colleagues who can actually sell nicotine vapes over the counter. Well, pharmacists only up to a certain strength. And then they need a prescription after that. But they're terrified that they're actually going to get firebombed. So they're very reluctant to actually do so. Yes, I had a conversation with someone who's a pharmacist as well a few months ago. Andrew and I said exactly the same thing. They really don't want to sell vapes because of the fear that the pharmacy would be firebombed. So you're a GP but you're a pharmacist who told you this. Yeah, but I'm an authorised prescriber of nicotine vapes. And when they first came out of the company used to say, oh, you're going to be able to keep up with the demand. But there's been hardly any demand. I mean, I might prescribe six and six months. As a doctor, are you comfortable prescribing vapes to people? I mean, do you think it's a lesser evil compared to say cigarettes? Yeah, it's basically harm reduction. That's a lesser evil.

33:42I mean, in an idea world, no one would smoke no one would need nicotine which is obviously bad for you. Oh, no, no, no, no one would drink alcohol and no one would ever take drugs. But people do, don't they? Yes, that's how I'm in my station. We have to try and do this. All right. Thank you, Andrew. We'll treat this word in the streets. There you go. Pharmacists worry that they'll be the next target of firebombers because they do have nicotine vapes behind the counter. Grown you, Andrew, you might find yourself on Friday and the running for a yearly word of the street price, $60,000 towards the Mercedes of your choice. Thanks to Mercedes-Benz Brighton. We're spring demonstrator savings are available right now on over 250 demo vehicles. Mick, good morning. Good morning, Tom. Go ahead. Illegal vapes, they are. Illegal vapes. Yes, illegal tobacco. Right. Illegal cigarettes are illegal as well. Yep. So why don't people get charged when they buy them? If you get pulled up for whatever reason, why can't they get charged? I'm sure two people would get charged.

34:43Well, I guess you're right, Mick. But yeah, we don't. I mean, for example, if you go to the heroin injecting room in North Richmond and you presumably have some heroin on you, otherwise, why would you go there? I mean, no one gets charged with that either. Do they? Well, that's right. But if they could get charged, they would deter, I know, I've spoken to this for a couple of years, so I wouldn't have them. I'd buy the other ones if they had to. And you're only contributing to our organist's time, so they're going to realize that. Well, that's true. And I mean, if you really want to put a, or get rid of a business which you don't like for health reasons or criminal control reasons, going after demand is as important as going after supply because without the demand there is no supply. But again, when you look at illegal drugs, which are arguably a lot worse than illegal cigarettes, there we treat the demand of the drugs, the drug user as an innocent victim who's acquired an illness like getting a cold of the flu. And we treat the drug seller as the evil criminal. But the point is one depends,

35:49or both of them depend on each other. So I would argue they're equally bad. Well, yeah, you could do that, Mick. I mean, there's this brand of cigarettes which I can't mention. It's the biggest illegal brand of cigarettes. It's the name of a Midland city in the UK. I guess the cops and they have a sort of a moron colored packet. You know, if the cops saw someone with a packet of those, they could say we're arresting you. But the police won't do it, though. I mean, the police don't arrest people for having heroin on them if they're within the vicinity of the lethal, or the, I should say, the allegedly safe injecting room. Tony, good morning. Tony, I just want to give you another perspective on owners of tobacco shop. We own some premises that police to we believe at tobacco seller. Explained a situation where they meet 70s were retired, but sell fund different retirees. We entered a legal lease with these people a few years ago under the cover of being a convenient store. They sent photos of their previous

36:51building business, which clearly showed it was a business selling convenience type products, lollies, sweets, things that kids would like. The location of the shop would have made an ideal for that purpose. It came to our notice sometime later that they may have been selling tobacco and probably vapes as well. I'm not sure about that. We have sought legal advice. It is extremely difficult to get out of a lease. Yeah. You end up at VCAT and I don't have to tell you, VCAT take the other side. It's the same if you have a house to rent. I mean, VCAT will take the side of the tenants. Correct. Exactly. I'll go further. My conductive police headquarters a year and a half ago, when they first set up a task force about this, I couldn't get the police to phone me back. This is typical government double talk. When you had been carried on the other day, I nearly phoned you then because at the end of his conversation, dropped in a bit about pursuing landlords. They're evil landlords. Let's get off the landlord.

37:53As I said, in our 70s, when we average people, self-owner don't get a cent from government anywhere, we will be the ones that they are setting up to take the fight. I think you might be right. I'll just read this a bit of this press relation in the government. It says, the magistrates court can issue long-term closure orders and landlords will be able to terminate leases because of the orders. So, what it's saying is, first they would have to investigate the, your candy shop, I think they're called, and determine, yes, they're selling illegal cigarettes. Then they would have to issue a closure order. Then and only then, you would be allowed to terminate the lease. That's quite a sort of so cute arrangement, isn't it, Tony? It is. Furthermore, it puts it puts it puts it back on us in the way the ones that have to front the people there. And you said how these paid council workers and police are reluctant to do it. How do you reckon we'll fill with them in 70s during that? Tony, it's a good point. And this is why

38:57I really wish either Inva Erdogan or Paul Edbrough, or the two ministers who have got carriage of this would agree to just come on the program and talk about this. It's no good saying, we are going to stop illegal tobacco. And then when whole start appearing in the in the plan, like are the police interested in doing it? Will the officers from tobacco license in Victoria, well, they be armed, I mean, I'm assuming probably not, but they might need to be because you've got criminals who are prepared to kill each other for control of this industry. And if it is determined that a shop is selling illegal tobacco or illegal vapes and you say to the landlord, you go and sort it out, well, as you say, you're in your 70s, it might not be something you could reasonably do. Oh, I want to miss. One double three, six times three news headlines at half past nine with David Armstrong. David, good morning. Good morning. In the news at 10 o'clock, that terrible accident at par when the school pick up time yesterday, eight people in a vehicle, two children have died, a young girl died at the scene, a young boy, I think he was 11, he passed away after being airlifted

39:58to hospital. We have a woman in hospital and one of the other ones who's been injured was a toddler or a small girl. I read about this story. Were they all in one car that rolled? Yes, one of the big like a van to die a kid, those ones we can, but there's no other car, this is what I couldn't work out. No one scratched into them. They somehow went around calling too fast for the investigating how that happened. It flipped and ended up a Neuropatic. Yesterday, the leader of one nation in Victoria Warren Pickering, he opened up. He has a rather colorful past. We want to describe it as such. Well, we're going to play his audio from this press conference yesterday. You know, it's you to see, I don't think he's going to lose any friends as a result of this. I think American style, you know, I failed the Lord, I failed you, I am just a broken man. I think that plays quite well or something. Many people will look and think, well, he's had a lived experience. He hasn't been cocoons. So many of our MPs moving through the political process. Anyway, he admitted to a past of drug use,

41:04the drug use. And so now every single time a government minister puts a hand up to do a news conference, they too will be asked about their previous drug use. Remember this happened with Bill Clinton? Yes, 30 years ago, he goes, oh, I did smoke marijuana, but I didn't inhale. Colin Brooks, the treasurer and Ingrid Stitt, the health minister, were both out at a news conference today. And that question was asked of them. And the response was, yes, there is casual marijuana use many decades ago when I was growing up. So there you go. They'll keep asking that. What are you laughing at? I just think it's really, I mean, honestly, we are lucky that we grew up at a time when our entire lives were not being filmed by people. And so there were all sorts of things that went on, there's no record of it, but I mean, you know, so they've had to admit to that. I'm not going to tell you the club here, fill in the blanks. And AFL club has taken advantage of the NFL excitement, gripping the city and outing a partnership, which, which AFL club loves to leap on a commercial opportunity? Colin Wood. Colin Wood has announced a strategic, here come some corporate speak,

42:11a strategic partnership with Super Bowl champions, the Seattle Seahawks Uniting two iconic organizations, the partnership United two of the world's most passionate supporter bases and opens the door to unique collaboration opportunities across a range of areas. Well, I'd say if you're a Colin Wood supporter, I don't know. You'll be told to barrack for the Seattle Seahawks in the NFL. And I imagine it's probably just a leak at the bottom of the thing. Imagine what the Seahawks will think of 10,000 Colin Wood supporters to do. Who are these people? Why are you dressed like that? That's all there at 10 o'clock. Thank you, David. One of the three six don't three mornings at three AW.com.au. I'll play you in a moment a bit of Warren Pickering's press conference yesterday. And he does confess to drug use. And I think there's some other things. But I don't think he'll actually lose any fans over it. Also tonight on Channel 9, there's a celebration. It's 70 years since the first TV broadcast occurred in Australia back in 1956. Just let me know.

43:13What are some of your great moments, greatest moments on Australian television? I follow this Instagram account. I think it's called Oz Kitch or something like that. And it has clips from young talent time and Graham Kennedy and Blankety Blanks and Paul Hogan. And now all these shows from the 70s and 80s that pretty much everybody used to watch. These days, of course, we don't all watch the same thing. There's so much stuff on streaming services that I hear people talking about shows. I've never even heard of the programs. And I've got a list that if I printed it out, it's about 18 pages long of things I should watch, but I never, never seemed to have time. But back in the day, there was three commercial channels plus the ABC plus SBS. And that was it. And things were on when they were on. And if you missed them, you missed them a lissue. Well, one of those lucky people that had a video recorder. Greatest moments in Australian television has been 70 years since TV first appeared in this country. One of the three six nine three at 25 to 10. It is a 21 to 10 emails. Ozzy says, why don't we pick on the small retailers selling illegal cigarettes.

44:17They're just small fry in the distribution chain. Well, that's true, Ozzy. But there's also, you know, that the crime fighting approach that New York City took back in the 90s, nearly 2000s, the so called broken window theory. The idea being that if you go after small fry criminals, that stops them turning into bigger criminals. I'd be going after all of them that the smugglers, the importers, the organized criminals, there must be warehouses of these illegal cigarettes somewhere. But and the shopkeepers who sell them because they're all part of it. And Joanne says, so what about Warren Pickering? I'll play a bit of what Warren Pickering had to say yesterday at a moment. Joanne points out, 10-year-old blibber six husbands was convicted hero and trafficker back in the day. Joanne says, nothing will change my mind about voting one nation. It is time to take a look at an on deck and secure lightning loan for fast-moving small businesses. Go to on deck.com.au. Ben, good morning. Yeah, hey, I just wanted to say that. I'm a smoker of illegal cigarettes. I would change if they, even if they were like one and a half times the price.

45:18But also, I've been to Queensland recently and I've seen them try and do this in Queensland. All that happens is they shut down and they reopen exactly after the ban acquires. They also hire out another shop nearby and try and go from there. On average, how much do you pay per packet for your illegal cigarettes? $10. Right. So Angus Taylor joined us a few days ago. He said he wanted to lower the exercise such that a legitimate packet of cigarettes would be $15. So if you've got the illegal one at 10 and the legal one at 15, you're saying you'd happily pay the $15? I'd pay $25 because at the end of the day, I at least know that the Australian cigarettes are going to be more healthy. Obviously smoking is not healthy, but you know what I mean? Well, I do, but does it worry you that your money is going into the hands of criminals? Yes, I know. At the end of the day, I have to look after myself. I've got bills to pay. Okay. I'm addicted to smoking. If they made vapes free, I would try and quit.

46:23How much do you smoke a day? A packet a day. Well, I don't want to lecture you about your own health, but my father died of not very pleasant death and he was a two-pack of today's smoke. I can just say later in life, you will regret it. But there's all sorts of things we regret that we did when we were young. For example, one nation's Victorian leader Warren Pickering yesterday responded to allegations of historical illicit drug use. He's a bit of what he had to say. So I had utilised illegal drugs in my 20s. Never would I have ever said that I was somebody that was a drug addict. I did use them as a young man and I'm not proud of that. What drugs are you talking about? We're talking about speed amphetamines, ecstasy and marijuana. Is ISIS not on that list? So speed amphetamines, ecstasy and marijuana, but no ice. I must say I thought ice and amphetamines were pretty much the same thing. I don't think you addressed the issues

47:23of alleged sexual deviance, but look, you know, there'd be plenty of young people out there who have also had speed and ecstasy and amphetamines and marijuana. I don't think we should condemn people for mistakes they have made in their younger years. Now there are mistakes and there are mistakes. Illegal drug use is not cool and it's certainly not something we would encourage. But it also shouldn't prevent you from ever seeking office later on in your life. Anyway, we took quite a few calls yesterday whether you know if you're thinking about voting one national or you intend to vote one nation, do you care that Warren Pickering over 20 years ago took illegal drugs? The impression I get is that most people do not care. Andrew, good morning. I remember back there was an interview with Anthony Elvin Easy with Jackie O and Carl Sandeland on the FM radio station and they are asking directly had he had cannabis or a bone

48:28and he's comment was I'll take the fifth on that. And so, he'd been with his character. We could all assume that he has like a lot of other politicians have. And I think that to drag someone's personality with absolute honesty like Warren Pickering into it, I'd much rather have someone like him controlling our state than someone like the current government who are doing what they're doing to destroy every business, homeowner and everything else. Our past history is a little bit of that's their history. But we've just got to move on from all of that considering what what is our current issue. No, look, I agree with you, Andrew. I mean, let's just say and think of the call. Let's just say Warren Pickering said, you know, I use meth and phedomines every day right now. Then you might think differently. You might say, well, you know, if you're on speed or something every day, I mean, are you really a good person to potentially put in charge of this state?

49:28But confessing to silly things you did over 20 years ago when you're in your early 20s, I could tell you and from my own experience and I did things too, that, you know, young men in particular, young women to do dumb things. You think you're invulnerable, you think you'll live forever, you experiment with things legal and illegal. And hopefully it doesn't come back to haunt you. And by that, I mean, hopefully you don't do anything really bad permanently. But people do do these things. All right. And Warren Pickering, you know, obviously he had to address the allegations because he's former partner, you know, made them known and he's been honest about it. What about three, six, nine, three mornings at three AW.com.au. What calls, morning miles coming up after 10 o'clock, we're going to speak to a Sydney real estate agent on auctioneer who says young people have to stop eating out at cafes and restaurants if they have one, have the deposit on a home. And it's the 70th anniversary of TV launching in Australia. Channel Alliance tonight is having a special program celebrating 70 years of TV in this country.

50:33What are some of your greatest moments? As I said, I've been rewatching the very entertaining quiz show for the 1970s, Blankety Blanks. A, it was funny. B, Graham Kennedy was a real talent. The outfits that they wore in the mid to late 1970s were still subbing to behold. Great moments in Australian television. That's all ahead at 14 to 10. It is 11 to 10, whether now for Games World or World of Fun awaits you at Games World, find out more at gamesworld.com.au. Currently in town, it's 12 degrees. Our forecast top is 14. On Warren Pickering's confession yesterday, Judy says, I would argue he is to be admired for kicking the drug habit. It is not easy to do that. And on cigarettes, Mitchell says in the early 1960s, there was a company in Melbourne that would install a cigarette-vending machine in your house. The company would regularly turn up and load up the machines. So cigarettes back then were two and six pounds a packet. What's that 25 cents? Well, yes, I do remember those ones. You sort of pull the lever out. I mean, these three

51:35cigarette machines everywhere. Lana, good morning. Tom, similarly, I was stunned by Warren Pickering yesterday. In my response to him, and I'm a more mature woman, was that he showed real strength of character. And especially in the way he dealt with what was a hideous gaslighting and personal attack, and what was refreshing and completely unique is to hear a politician speak so truthfully and so intelligently. Well, Lana, I agree. And this is why I said before, I don't think he will lose any, maybe friends as the wrong word, but any supporters over this people say, okay, well, you're first up and that's okay. And we look, I think we all have an immense capacity for forgiveness. We don't like being lied to at all. But if someone, you know, owns up about something in their past, which is distasteful or illegal or whatever, but they own up and they tell the truth. It's all

52:36right. Well, you've told us fair enough. Let's move on. And I might add, just as a general lesson for all governments is if something goes wrong, either a personal thing or something in the government, you are far better off admitting to it straight away and say, look, this is a curd, we've stuffed up. Now we're going to fix it. Then trying to cover it up and then it comes out years later anyway, like for example, I don't believe for a moment that a lot of labour employees knew nothing about corruption on the big build. I think they knew about it because the connection between, you know, unions like the CFMU and the labour party is very, very close. The CFMU for years don't add a millions of dollars to the labour party. Of course they knew, and heaps of MPs are themselves ex-unionists. So they knew, but they decided it was better to to cover it up or pretend it wasn't happening rather than face up. And now they look like corrupt idiots. Peter joins us. What have you noticed Peter? Good morning. I thought I'd just share through his rather upsetting experience with you about 10 minutes ago as in the book Straight

53:39Mill and they fill out obviously down on his luck, approach me and ask me whether I could buy him some food. He didn't ask for money. He just asked for food. And he showed me a wristband from the hospital so he just been discharged from hospital. I was happy to do that. So we walked down the mall and turned left into the first lane that came along that said breakfast. And I went in there and bought him a toast of sandwich and a cup of coffee, which I was more than happy to pay for. But then left him to it and I walked up the line. I was chased down by a member of the staff who very aggressively said to me, I wasn't to do that again. And if I was to do that again, they would bar me from the place. Which I thought was quite outrageous. I mean, what's happening in Melbourne? Yeah, I mean, look, I, as a rule, won't give money to homeless people because I worry that if you give them cash, it will be spent on drugs or something. But I have no problems buying someone something to do it. In fact, I have done that in the past. In fact, just last night,

54:41it wasn't me, but I saw a guy at some of my local calls and someone had bought him. I watched someone buy him a takeaway serving of something and he was quite pleased and had a wooden fork and he was eating it. And Peter, is this a cafe you've been to before? No, no, never. We just went to the first one that we encountered. And I'm going to say that I'm on my way into William Street, I'm wearing a suit and a collar and tie and all that. And there wouldn't be any problem with me going there on my own. I suspect that this fellow who's down on his left, they very much turned in those things. Well, you won't be darkening their door again, will you? All right, Peter, look, thank you. We might just get some more details off here. I won't name the cafe just now, but we may give them a call and just find out something a bit more about this. And you can find yourself in the running for the yearly word on the street prize at the end of the week, 60 grand towards the Mercedes of your choice. Thanks to Mercedes-Benz Brighton, where you could experience an extended test drive and discover how the Mercedes-Benz fits into your life. Luke, good morning.

55:44Good morning. I wish regards to the pickering thing. I would much prefer to vote for somebody who used to use drugs rather than a party that want to legalize drugs. Well, there is the legalized cannabis party in the Victorian Parliament, isn't it? Isn't it? Absolutely, and I bet I wouldn't stop there. No, we wouldn't. And that's the best argument against legalizing cannabis. There are arguments for and against, but the best one is that it's ten years of the way. It's the once you legalize that drug, people will say, well, okay, well, what about cocaine, what about ecstasy, and before you know everything's legal. Like it is up in Canberra. What about three, six, nine, three, at five to ten? The 10 o'clock union is coming up at a moment with David Armstrong. First, so John, good morning. High time, love the show. I'll be quick a couple of months ago. I'm trying to give up vaping or went into a chemist, one of the major ones, I'm trying to purchase a vape with the lowest

56:45negative thing little possible to try and sort of win myself off it. I was told there was nothing stuck and in fact there was a shortage and an issue with importing the evapes in the chemist's industry. So unfortunately, I just went 100 metres down the road and purchased one and still vaping today. Right, oh, is that extraordinary. So you're trying to do the right thing and buy a legal vape from a chemist and they say they've run out. Then you go down the road to the illegal shop and they've got plenty. Coming up after the news, we're going to speak to a city-based auctioneer who says if young people want to get on board the property ladder, they've got to give up the restaurants, the cafes and the Smash Devacado and your calls, one of the three, six, nine, three. On 3AW and across Victoria, this is Tom Alleyance. Tom Alleyance. Simpastin, the property market and how hard it is to get in on it is a constant topic of conversation here at 3AW because a lot of our producers are in their mid to late 20s, early 30s and

57:48they sort of agonise. They think that back in the day, you know, houses were essentially free and now they're very expensive. The housing market has come down a bit depending on which market you look at. Probably house prices are up to 10% lower than what they were a year or so ago, but they're still expensive by historical standards. A lot of advice from older people like me about what you should do, but the big one is, I'm going to speak to a bloke who's said this in the Australian financial review today, that people and particularly younger people love spending money on experiences these days, going on overseas holidays, eating it, relatively fancy restaurants, having brunch in cafes rather than having a piece of toasted home. All this stuff while great and you know, it's wonderful to live a life like that, does cost a lot of money. My very clear memory of buying a house back in the early 90s was you had a choice.

58:49You could go and do those sorts of things as they were back then, or you could buy a house, but on the sort of money you would earn in your mid to late 20s you simply couldn't do both. Anyway, we'll have a look at that in the moments. On Warren Pickering's admissions yesterday about drug use a long time ago in his life, Norm says I'd say more people Warren's age have tried drugs than those who have not. Warren Pickering is 43. Norm says I have tried drugs and so most of my friends, but none use them now. And on illegal cigarettes, Brenno says time you say this funds money to criminals, which is true, yet we give so much of our hard-earned cash to politicians who wasted anyway. Well, that is a very good point. If you have a choice like would you rather give your money to organised crime via buying illegal cigarettes, or would you rather give it to Jim Charmers, the federal treasurer to do God knows what with it? I don't know. On level 3693,

59:52just to remind a visit amason.com and tell your pricey telco where to go. An excuse is a city-based auctioneer at Kool-E-Oxions. Dame me in Kool-E-Good morning. Morning Tom. What do you require to do the saying in today's finance review? You really resonated with me because I remember when I bought my first house, for example, I didn't understand stamp duty and something I got a bill for, I think it was $10,000 from the state review office down here. I had to sell my car to pay for it. I couldn't afford to have a relatively modern car and pay the stamp duty and I ended up driving a car that was 25 years old instead. Is this a lesson that's perhaps lost on younger people today? I think that, like I say to my kids all the time, you, it depends on what your goals are. If you want to put yourself in a position to buy a home, there are sacrifices that you will need to make and you need to be disciplined around your savings to put yourself in a position to be out of a afforded deposit, to be able to buy a home. I think one of the lessons that I try and teach my

1:00:58kids is make money while you sleep and if you can't work, what is your income? It's a really powerful question for everybody to ask themselves. If you weren't able to work anymore, what is the income that you are generating? That's all about building passive income to be able to make sure that you leave a comfortable life as you get older. For me and for my kids, we regularly sit down and talk about how much they've saved, what pocket money they get, what they're saving out of their pocket money, what money they get for birthdays and they're putting it into what we call is our kids house accounts. All three of my kids have a house account and we do our best to try and teach them about investing and that's what it's all about, saving discipline. What is the lesson you impart to your kids and other young people about not spending money now versus having it for the future? I say to my kids all the time, like any materialistic thing that you're going to buy

1:02:03now is more than likely going to be worth a lot less than what you paid for it and you're buying it for pleasure and it's nice to have these things and it's nice to enjoy great experiences but if you want to put yourself in a position to buy a home, you're going to need to save a significant amount of money to do that and saving $100,000 seems impossible but once you save $5,000 and that $5,000 becomes $10,000 and you invest this money into perhaps into the share market which my kids are starting to do. For them it's all about watching that money grow and it takes a long time to do it, takes years to do it but as you get more it compounds and it also becomes a larger pool of money that you'll be able to spend on a house. There was another lesson if you liked that I try and impart to my younger producers here but they don't want to listen. When I was in my twitties it was a very rare thing to go out for me, like to go to a restaurant. Basically a method of socialising was we would take it in turns to cook a meal for our friends. It was usually something pretty basic

1:03:07like spaghetti, bolognese or chops and sausages on the barbecue but it wasn't so much about the food it was about getting together but it was much cheaper to entertain and to eat at home and then to go out and these days when I look at young people's social media feeds it's full of pictures of all this amazing food and these meals they're eating at restaurants and I wonder if that's a smart thing. Well I say this all the time I say like what a first home buyers who really do have aspirations of buying a home, what are they doing to help themselves and the dining out is just a I guess an easy analogy to look at and say are you going out the fence, your restaurants and spending money there or are you cooking at home? If you're cooking at home are you buying and I feel at stake in opposed to a rum stake? Are you having a lobster pasta at home instead of a spaghetti bolognese? Like you for me I was probably about 18 years old before I even went to a cafe. The thought of going out for a fancy dinner in our home I was one of five kids was unheard of you know perhaps it

1:04:13might have been a very special occasion but you know mum always cooked meals at home and we were taught from a young age to save and to also try and choose a career where we were rewarded on our effort and we were rewarded based on our hard work so you know for me getting into real estate at a young age I mean I started my business when I was 23 years old and I was I think of kids now that are 23 years old and starting their own businesses you know some of them might feel like it's out of reach but it actually isn't it is all about what are your goals how am I going to achieve them and what sacrifices do I need to make to achieve those goals? All right thank you so much for your time don't mean coolie there oxygen here at Koolie Octions I've been Sydney and look I've never met him before I wouldn't know him from a bar of sight but I read an article that he appeared in in the financial review this morning and he specifically focused on the propensity of modern generations to eat out you know breakfast or or brunch at cafes

1:05:20an endless string of takeaway coffees which they are cost five six seven dollars each I think I paid eight dollars recently that might have been for a large one but yeah coffees getting expensive going to expensive restaurants one of my producers said to me oh I went to gimlet the other night it was fantastic well gimlet is a lovely restaurant I've been there once but it's also obscenely expensive and you know if you've got plenty of money and you're in your 40s or 50s go for it but if you're in your 20s and you're trying to save money I mean places like that should be off limits and I just again in the 90s when you know unemployment was high you know people didn't earn very much money and Melbourne was a bit run down if you wanted to save money you just accepted that you know you wouldn't have a modern car a car's back then weren't nearly as good as cars now that you wouldn't go out all that much you certainly wouldn't go and get drunk at a night club which is about the most expensive what a way to drink alcohol and you save money for the greater good I mean if I only have your own home it doesn't stop because you've got to pay the mortgage but the

1:06:23point is it is a wonderful thing later in life to own your own house one level three six don't three mornings at three aw.com.au but there is this trend these days called yolo you only live once or or phoema fear of missing out other people are eating out that looks nice I should go and do it too mal good morning yeah I was just saying to the young lady there back in the 1970s something so I can't quite remember I was having arguments with this salesman from juric the juric insurance company and he tried to call me into something called superannuation and can I use his name? well it's 50 years ago now so why not yeah yeah his name was Stan Brown lovely man absolutely just kept it calm because I was a mechanic and I was right up there and I was I was I was I was

1:07:25he called me into it and I'm sitting there and I'm sitting there going oh yeah and as I just said to the young lady come back 2024 25 um house is pay for you just leave it it's a nest egg don't look at it don't touch it just feed it and it's like the weed it just gets more and more and more and um and and just to really write what you're saying I'm laying on the bonnet of my 1998 road day of four-wheel drive and I won't get rid of that either yeah perfectly good car the old holder my dayo sadly they don't make him anymore but um yeah well that was good advice back then thank you mal come and join us one level three six times three so I suppose the answer is what is more important is it living for the moment and look you know when you're young I mean life is just fabulous it really not not everything's fabulous but trust me when you get old you look back at when you were young and so if I could I would go back there but what is more important you know spending money now or saving it for later one level three six nine three mornings at

1:08:30three aw.com.au my calls what emails coming up uh also we're going to speak to a former member of the Olympics awesome force of 1996 when a gold medal at the the Olympics that year um Drew gin is his name is a very famous rower 2032 Olympics which Brisbane is hosting for reasons that almost defy the imagination they want to have the rowing uh in north Queensland like a long way away from Brisbane on the Fitzroy River which amongst other things is in festival with saltwater crocodiles I just I'll fire this and maybe it will make the rowing more interesting I don't know and also um I'll take your calls from now on um great moments in Australian TV channel nine tonight is having a special on the 70th anniversary it was September 1956 when uh tv first appeared in this country it was black and white for the first 20 years then it was colour but great moments in television uh I grew up watching shows like an Australian show like Blankety Blanks uh like count down

1:09:33like sounds with Donnie Sutherland like the Don Lane show and even though Don Lane was an American that was an Australian variety show and none of these shows existed anymore but they they were part of the staple of life they really were one of the three six nine three mornings at three aw.com.au that's all ahead at 19 past 10. it's 22 past 10 now we've just had a very interesting off-ear word in the street from John he says the Cheltenham Golf Club in the south east has been awarded a $60,000 grant from the suburban rail loop to establish a golf simulator within the clubhouse John understandably says well if the suburban rail loop is already not funded and likely to cost a lot more than budgeted why they're handing out money like this we'll chase that up with the Cheltenham Golf Club but yeah the allegation is the suburban rail loop has given the Cheltenham Golf Club $60,000 to establish a golf simulator. Growney John with that tip off we'll check it out you could

1:10:34find yourself in the drawer for our yearly prize on Friday $60,000 towards the Mercedes of your choice thanks to Mercedes Ben's Brighton basites trusted experts in luxury motoring also a lot of other emails coming in again about Warren Pickering the one nation leader here in Victoria who confessed to drug use yesterday with Amphetamine ecstasy marijuana and something else Tony says I watch the media conference live yesterday I saw one nations were on Pickering answer difficult personal questions with the admirable rule honesty which Tony points out is a complete contrast to plenty of other politicians and look this is one of the reasons that one nation is you know racing up the the charts so to speak the opinion polls because they actually say we're not politicians we don't always have smooth glibances we actually tell the truth in this case it was about illegal drug use I mentioned yes I don't think Warren Pickering will lose any supporters

1:11:36because of this and he might have ingrained some one of the three six times three just on politicians Michael says via email I know I have no politicians who could be described as saints they're only self-serving back stabbing individuals Michael says I hold them all in contempt well I look Michael I get to meet a lot of them I have quite nice people up close but this something happens with people in politics they start off with high-minded ideals and wanting to change society for the for the better in their view and in so many cases something bad happens to them along the way and they do end up becoming self-serving one of a three six times three David hello morning Tom thanks for taking the call pleasure I just wanted to offer another perspective on the issue of gotten home buyers it's possible we've reached or are about to reach an inflection point where young people can potentially strip and save you know for the best parts of the best parts of their life and still not to achieve the goal that they set out I mean it's all really

1:12:41good for the older generation to sit back and say you know don't eat avocado and toast and don't go out but is it likely that we've got reset inflection and people want to just enjoy you know the 20s 30s and never 40s yeah look I agree I agree and that is part of it what happens is a young person says you know the average price of a house in Melbourne is let's just pick a number one million dollars which is the average around now most of the country in capital cities it's more in Sydney and in order to fund a million dollars I'm going to save up two hundred thousand dollars and I just can't do that so I won't bother and I'll just enjoy myself and David that is maybe the process but there are alternatives for example people could invest money instead of owning a home so as we were hearing before from Mr. Kooley you know like if you invest money you can develop an income stream which is independent on you working and that's something I look for I look at a lot because that's actually what I used to do in my financial life so that's one possibility the

1:13:45other possibilities you don't buy a house that you live in but maybe you buy a unit or something in a in a either a less desirable area or maybe in a country town where property prices are cheaper and you rent it out so you you have exposure to the property market but you you might rent the house that you live in but own a separate house that you rent out like these I'm not saying you have to do this but there are ways to do it but I do know this David I mean if people spend every single dollar that comes in through the door then obviously you'll never never save any money and there are choices that can be made as I said to approach a couple of eggs and put them on toasted home costs a dollar or two to go out and do the same thing in the cafe costs 25 dollars so you know there's 20 bucks saved right there by not going out you take their 20 dollars you say I've forgotten the pleasure of being served at a cafe I'm going to save that money and it's amazing how when you start saving it just builds up thank you David Sue hello it's good morning Tom I just wanted to know

1:14:49I find it bizarre that a lot of people are not up in arms with the the regulating over the internet that the government's trying to impose on that I mean we're going to talk about we're going to talk about a lateral left because I'll be honest I don't fully understand exactly what the government is trying to do but but go on well they started well technically back in 2012 they think Gila tried to put that through the clean feed internet filter which obviously didn't go through that was the way they started to try and regulate the internet as to what they thought with the appropriate or not then of course they started with the children protecting the children under the guise of protecting the children which we all know that they do go around the internet they know they get through well a lot of yes so at the end of the day the government is wanting to regulate the internet the government has control of what they think is well basically allowed or not allowed hate speech etc I think people don't seem to understand that by regulating the internet

1:15:52or the government regulating the internet to that extreme there's a lot of things that do go out obviously you know who is to say that if I'm against you know climate change policies that's my place of voters hate speech or like this is where we're heating and I think a lot of people are not really looking into it a little bit more than what they should know it's a good point so and look as I said I I've read a bit about it and I'll be honest I I'm not a massive user of social media myself so I'm trying to understand is it does allow the individual to control the algorithm as they want which might include unpleasant things like for example there was this rapper is it Macklemore is that what I'm thinking of is supporting Ed Sheeran at the moment and Macklemore mid-concert launches into you know a free Palestine and Spanish-East Rail and this sort of thing anyway I found a picture of him I think it was 10 or so years ago dressed up as a Jew you know with a hook nose and a yummucker on and that sort of thing like it's like like Black Face but Jewish now I find him objectionable I don't like his views at all so does the government

1:16:58ban him or is it okay to be anti-semitic like he is or do I ban him I'm just not sure so look so keep listening after a leaven we're going to speak to technology expert Lee Stark to me this has sort of come out of nowhere but you know last year it was all about banning the under 16s from social media now it's about controlling the algorithm that you know Facebook for one of a better term simply says right oh well the sorts of things you look at we think you're interested in XYZ we will feed you more of XYZ so does the individual get control or is it the government or is it I don't know what you said lines now at half past 10 with David Armstrong David good morning what's in your algorithm well the weird thing I find let's say I look up I bought a pair of Jim shoes recently for the last few weeks I've just been bombarded with ads for shoes which is down because I've bought them now I'm not going to go and buy another pair although I couldn't find them this morning so I might have to come find them a favorite you know what I mean

1:17:58like that to me that's the algorithm being stupid if I bought a pair of shoes I'd no longer need a new pair of shoes so there's that or I like reading science fiction books so I go on and look at those yeah and then I get bombarded with books by new authors that you know I mean to me that's what's in my algorithm but I find it annoying I would rather just look for the things that I want to look for and now I want to change that he wants to he wants to do well think so but there's this other thing you know it's the 70th anniversary of television today yeah and and I found this I think it's an Instagram account and it just plays clips of classic Australian TV shows so you get young talent time you get blankety blanks you get the it's and I remember all these shows that you realize how not badly done but it was it was primitive by the standards of today but arguably better than the reality TV we could serve up now my algorithms full of perfectly moan sporting stadium grass see well I love it I love it well grassy David Schwartz the ox he's the same yeah so

1:19:01the pictures of lawn yeah I've got a friend is he sends me pictures of his lawn and I'm like yeah I could not be less interested there's a saying that's as dull as watching grass grow that's what you do when they put beautiful patterns into the sporting well mostly excited you'll be you can watch NFL patterns on the MCG and then the two days later we'll be back to the NFL ground on this extraordinary news at 11 o'clock there have been a raid in two states big CFM EU raids CFMU headquarters in Brisbane this morning a lot of police led by Melbourne detectives going in there that is because that was where the Royal Commission was held a lot of why Melbourne detects why aren't they raiding the CFM you down here well they did that as well there's three people arrested in Victoria as well and will be interviewed by police but I think a lot of the focus on Queensland is because that's a lot of the documentation well well that that's where that's Jeffrey Roberts sorry Jeffrey um Watson QC that's his way he he did his report up in Queensland

1:20:04but it spoke extensively about CFM EU corruption in Victoria and so maybe that's the reason the Prime Minister has been forced to defend a six million dollar grant to a golf course in his Sydney electorate the money's been given to them six million dollars the money's been allocated the Marigold Golf Club is part of the Commonwealth grants program which is under question because so much of that money was allocated to um labour seats and well we just said a word on the street the Chattano Golf Course has been given sixty grand by the suburban rail loop to build the golf simulator well I don't know is it to curry favor to make people think oh I like the suburban rail loop now Anthony Albalese he says he hasn't been to the clubhouse in the years doesn't mean he hasn't played golf there but hasn't been to the clubhouse but he's glad that they're fixing the sewage problems that they've had at the Marigold Golf course you know another thing I learned about Albowne's sport why is he actually quite a good tennis player I saw that he played someone the other day in one six love six love he was a guy that won a game of tennis with Albow charity auction and he got smashed

1:21:10but he he used the occasion to invite two of his mates and they got in his ear or during the entire match about tax changes in sport live golfers officially filed for bankruptcy in the United States how would you be Aussie Cameron Smith he's the guy with the the Muller the the here isn't he is owed more than six and a half million dollars as an unsecured and apparently I was speaking to Mark Allen about this they've now got to go and beg for forgiveness from the the PGA and say please can we play with you again now we're sorry we went over to the dark side and all that sort of thing all of that at 11 one of the three six nine three mornings at three aw.com.au pretty of course are coming up we're going to speak to five no four-time Olympian and triple Olympi gold medalist Drew gin and a moment he's a famous row he's amongst other things was a member of the awesome force and I've been reading about this in the Australian newspaper but Brisbane's bid for the two thousand thirty two Olympics one of the sports is rowing and for some reason they want to

1:22:13have the rowing in rockhampton which is sort of central to northern Queensland and it's in a river called the Fitzroy River I've never been there but I have read that it's infested with saltwater crocodile and I think this is a good idea it will make the rowing more interesting that's for certain Drew gin Olympic champion in a moment at 25 to 11 21 to 11 time to look at an on deck unsecured lightning line for fast-moving small businesses go to on deck dot com dot a u on particularly young people spending a lot of money and not saving for a home deposit sunny says it used to be the term keeping up with the Joneses was actually derogatory but sunny says our current social media obsessed society has turned it into the entire point of life I agree I do find people who take photographs of their food I mean to me it's not interesting I suppose some people must find it interesting Dave wants to know for politicians like Warren Pickering admits to prior drug years does that affect them getting into certain countries it's probably reference Prince Harry one of the theories is it was going to be kicked out of

1:23:17America I don't think it's because he used drugs I think it's because he lied about it I think on his visa application to America he said he'd never taken illegal drugs but then in his book spare he admitted to I think it was smoking marijuana or something and so lying about your drug use and being caught out that that can be a reason to be booted out of a country like America Horatio hello good morning I suppose that let's take advice in relation to buying I wouldn't be able to make the self-interest agreement with that agent very blind that's a big half very very blink of an productive view about what the issues are we're in buying a house now it used to be three to one between your earnings and what you could borrow that's hand to one it's ridiculous so I went to my local kainese mistriple last night magnificent I paid $74 for three on trades a main course a soup and a dessert now if I went to my local iga or colds

1:24:22it would have cost me more than that time the cost of living yeah but Horatio but you can get a decent meal by buying things from a supermarket you don't you can you buy ten dollars worth of stuff and you'll have an ok meal you can't help the person who writes our warm love you are also been a yeah you you are also you've made an economic talk to him certainly stand up and let your own life all over the whole right Horatio because I do agree with you I do agree with you when I bought my first house the bank would lend twice your income it was not in 94 and by the end of the decade it was up to six times then it was eight times so for me one of the main reasons that house prices have gone up so much is the banks will simply lend a lot more money than they used to I mean they simply wouldn't lend you that much back in the day so house prices didn't rise very much and something in the 90s in the early 2000s changed okay annex guests is a five-time world champion row of four-time Olympian triple Olympi Gold Medalist basically is one of the best people in the world

1:25:24who's ever pulled on an all drew gin good morning hey Tom hey Goma well good I think what she this debate about rowing in the Fitzroy River up in Queensland with some interest now as I understand a it's it's a bit tidal b it has a crosswind which we know in rowing is never very good and see mostly interestingly it is full of saltwater crocodiles it's the Brisbane Government or the Queensland Government are they are they serious about thinking that this is a good place to have rowing at the 2032 Olympics look I don't know how serious they are about it they're clearly stating that they're serious and in our name calling people in groups about people are calling in the question look I'm sure they've looked at alternatives I'm sure they've considered as much as they possibly can at least I hope they have but the fact of their persisting when so many people who know the sport and also know rock ampton and other solutions around Morton Bay the fact that they're not stepping down from a obviously a promise around regional sporting event just ignores the fact that the Olympic Games is all about integrity and fairness and that's all the

1:26:26athletes and spectators one I believe that overseas representatives from the IOC the International Olympic Commission actually asked whether the crocodiles would be pinned up and they were told no there there wild animals they go where they want to go it's a pretty hilarious sort of series of questions isn't it I think my understanding right now is world rowing's turning their attention to it they're aware of it the IOC it's national and the committee across it I just feel like not enough actions happening and if you think about the Sydney Olympic Games and how successful that was that Sydney venue is a legacy item for not only New South Wales but Australia that was started in the planning eight years before and it was delivered six years minimum before we raised that that venue and 96 four years after the Olympic Games in Sydney so for Brisbane to have these sort of questions and discussions in the IOC and and world rowing discussing whether or not crocodile that they're whether or not really shoot it just comes down to fairness and it's the sport and the Olympic Games want to host the best event bring it close to the Brisbane have it on a fair venue

1:27:26and then everyone will be satisfied and be the greatest event we've seen in Australia's sports also rock amlons are pretty decent distance from Brisbane I mean you know the Sydney rowing was in panrots which is you know back there about 30 minutes dry from the CBD a bit more of these days but it wasn't that far away and you could get public transport there but rock amptons a long way away from Brisbane isn't it yeah six hours and I think what's been called into question is people are raising the concerns about this and being discovered as people that don't appreciate the region or regional and so I can't I grew up in a little town in the locking Southby's Laney Victoria yeah two hours out of Melbourne I'd never want an Olympic Games venue to be hosted in that little town it just can't cater for it and the future of it doesn't make sense so to have it six hours away for spectators for not only rowing but also kayaking it for me just that it says you're not really valuing the spectator experience it's not making you needs to spectator to get down the events easily but equally for the athletes it's not just about performing when you go to the games you're there for a lot of the two weeks and it's the performance that you

1:28:29do it's the event that you do but it's equally supporting your teammates in other sports and events afterwards you don't get to do that when you fix the other way well was he and maybe they should have a look at you know Victoria's failed Commonwealth Games bit where the idea was to have a regional games with some sports in Shepardin and some in Bendigo and some in Belarat and I remember asking at the time like were you going to put the athletes village because you know you can't just get to Shepardin in half an hour you know it's a three hour drive and there was never a good answer for that and that's why I believe that this sort of regional games in Victoria was actually never real it was designed to get votes for that I'm never actually going to go ahead with it and I wonder if the Queensland government needs to look at this this idea of having a sport that's six hours away how will spectators get there how will the athletes get there and there's no good answer to it no you're right it's easy to make promises I mean I'm I'm disappointed for the comm games that all fell over for Melbourne Victoria but my understanding is the advice was given long before even some of those public announcements were made don't do a regional event it'll be too costly for you

1:29:32and and if you think you can do it just be prepared for the bill that you're going to have for Queensland they've got to know how much more expensive this is but it's not just the physical dollar cost it's the cost on everyone who has to do the logistics it's the security it's everything else that comes with it as you know and we saw the comm games golf sure and in Victoria we actually paid for most of that yeah we do have it hosted in another country and just came back to the saltwater crocodile I mean I mean do they understand that sometimes in rowing people catch a crab or they hit something or whatever and they do fall out of the boat and having an athlete eaten by a saltwater crock is not exactly what you expect to see when you watch the Olympics it would be a disastrous look think about the crock sets one thing let's add flooding in there as well so imagine if by chance and flooding could happen on any waterways you know all too well but imagine if all of a sudden we're told two days out that there's a storm coming and all of a sudden the course is going to have to be pulled up to ensure that we're mitigates from the risks so not only crocks but then flooding and then you have cancellation of events the Olympic schedule doesn't really cater for that the television rights everything that's involved we do have a window of opportunity for rowing

1:30:36which is a week long kayaking is a week long so crocks are a concern flooding is a concern but for the spectator experience it's almost like you don't have to risk of events not being run yeah all right thank you Drew Drew Jean there remember the awesome foursome triple Olympic gold medalist it is a faster situation and I can't believe the Queensland government is trying to defend it but up a three six times three at 13 to 11 it is a 10 to 11 quite to you see I'm an I I used to row at school and after it's for quite a few years and not the Drew's level but rowing on a river that floods is almost impossible rowing on a river that has saltwater crocodiles in it and the future I remember does is actually would not shouldn't be allowed I mean you people do fall out of the boat sometimes cruise clash they hit boys catch a crab you can be thrown out of the boat if that happens if it's a saltwater crocodile lurking they do what saltwater crocodiles do anyway that's the Queensland government for you we need to get Bob Cater on to it he gets very worried about saltwater

1:31:38whether now for Roth duet and their 20% off land sweet sails on now save 20% off lazy boy IMG and Australian made land sweet it is now 13 degrees forecast top 14 Rob good morning good morning how are you Tom good Rob what have you seen a high-speed collision in basal or on high street road between pine road and schools bureau it's believed there's a drug driver troubling in high speeds gone head on to another car a lot of emergency services there five brigade police ammo ss it's going to be it's going to be down for a while right um do I ask is someone not survive this collision do we know there's a lot of ammo in the car at the moment okay so someone possibly affected by substances as collided head on at speed with another car on high street road and base water emergency services are there thank you Rob the weekly wedding street prices of course the 1,000 all of

1:32:39us has been at impuduary the handmade and remodeling specialist uh Matthew hello hi Tom here you going yeah good Matthew that's good I just wanted to get a point across that I was listening to before a lot of people are talking about more ISO about homes and how much they cost in the medium house prices no one's talking about the interest that comes with them that you still have to pay yeah that's why if you look at the the total repayments over a more wage it's more than just the value of the house isn't it oh huge it's huge we we've put me my wife we stretched and we go okay we're going to buy a better house and a better no worse house in the best street and the interest is just like wow okay we didn't really know our numbers too well yeah well but Matthew the interest though is the price you pay for having the money now as opposed to having to save up for the value of a house and and not enjoy the house until 10 or 20 years in the future yeah yeah exactly but look Matthew you're right and and look interest rates have risen a lot more

1:33:42this year than most people forecast you know no one saw the three rate rises that we've had this year coming and I'm sorry to say there's probably one or two more coming our way because inflation is still far too high and believe it or not um as well as people have a mortgage looking at this the state and federal governments are looking at it you know our state government pretty soon we'll have 200 billion dollars worth of debt it's it's more than Victoria's ever had obviously and the federal government also has a trillion dollars worth of debt and pretty soon the cost of servicing the debt which is clearly a function of the interest rate it's going to be one of the biggest line items in the budget so for example if you if if the federal government pays five percent on its debt which is probably conservative now and has a trillion dollars worth of debt you know that's 50 billion dollars a year uh just in debt it's extraordinary one level three six don't three mornings uh i'm gonna just check one of us here because the numbers get so big they get hard to work out uh Jake hello hearing uh hi Tom hearing the government talking about free

1:34:46speech and the algorithms a bit scary it's a very slippery slope when you look at what's happened in the United Kingdom especially 12,000 people arrested for social media posts we have no constitutional right to free speech so every Australian should be very aware of the government talking about any changes to the way we receive our news media and social media yeah look I agree with you Jake and as I said I don't fully understand yet what's the government actually has planned and it comes to restricting the algorithm that they're trying to you know presented as part two of yeah part one was stopping teens accessing social media part two is protecting us from nasty things on the internet but I mean as you say who decides what is the nasty thing you know is uh saying something you mean about anything albaneasy will that be banned because it's not liked by anything albaneasy and it's possible we'll get some expert advice shortly at five to eleven the 11 o'clock news with David Armstrong coming up at a moment straight after the news I do want to get into this

1:35:47government plan to re-regulate or to regulate the internet to tame the algorithm whatever that means is it censorship is it protecting us from ourselves doesn't mean we get controlled does the government tell us what to see we'll find out straight after the news and also the extension of powers to iback Ben Carroll is backpedal to bed he does want to give iback extra powers but with those extra powers they're not allowed to go back and reinvestigate something they've already had a look at the greens don't like it will speak to Victorian greens later Ellen Sandell and I don't like it either there you go for once I agree with the greens come and join us by double three six nine three now across Victoria mornings with Tom Aliens so in past eleven a bit of breaking news we're hearing that Bob Hawkes biographer and then second wife blanche de Poulgeet has just died she was 82 years old she was a

1:36:47a pretty well known author wrote biographies novels their size and famously did the biography of Bob Hawke and then formed a relationship with him and then married him anyway blanche de Poulgeet apparently did at the age of 82 what level three six nine three I don't want to talk in about 15 to 20 minutes about some of the best Australian TV I've been watching this Instagram page I think it's called Os Kitch or something like that as in Kitchie Australian TV shows and you know Blakey blanks is very funny in the Paul Hogan show I'm in all the shim is a bit dated now but that's what we used to watch you know countdown was a great show I used to watch that religiously on Sunday nights when I was a teenager that got scrapped in 1987 I think Saturday mornings or was it Sunday but sounds unlimited with Donnie Sutherland in Melbourne tonight with Graham Kennedy the Suicide Center's Neymar she says in Melbourne tonight was the the best show on TV back in the day hosted by the funniest man ever Graham Kennedy yeah I agree he was very

1:37:51clever Graham Kennedy and even the Don Lane show which Steve Visard sort of redid in the 90s you know a nighttime variety show and my friend Sam Peng sort of has done a somewhat similar program periodically the problem in TV these days is it's so fragmented you know there's free to air and there's so many streaming services and streaming services have so many different shows people watch what they want to watch when they want to watch it and the concept of a vent TV we have all watched this show and we all watched it at the same time and we talk about it the next day almost doesn't exist and of course back in the day we didn't have reality TV and I'm not sure reality TV is all that good on rowing in the Fitzroy River at the 2032 Olympics Dave says with given the river is in festive with saltwater crocodiles I expect world records will tumble left right and center that's a good point I can't believe they're going to have it people do fall out of boats in rowing

1:38:56and if a if someone ends up in the water and there's a saltwater crocodile there the crocodile could attack and day mode regarding Warren Pickering his admission of drug use here's today day mode says what we should really focus on is his decade plus long military service which continues apparently today in the reserves one of the three six times three escape your pricey talk over is at amasim.com for affordable mobile plants I want to talk in a moment with an expert I'm going to speak to Tech Guru Least about what exactly this taming the algorithm means doesn't mean the government will sense of what we see or doesn't mean that we can sense of what we see and if bad things are going to be eliminated who decides what is bad and what is not first though a couple of calls are Peter good morning. Yeah Tom just about first home buyers and mortgages with prices dropping as quickly as they are the banks are going to be very risk of worse and first you know

1:39:58home buyers are going to have a great deal of trouble and they've got a huge deposit algorithms can I just say we better be prepared to pay a higher prices for our internet if we aren't going to allow the algorithms to do their work. Well you are right because I mean the algorithm that seems to control my feed just tends to throw up aids of things that I've looked at yeah which is fine I really take any notice of the ads but I mean you're right that does help pay for those things and if we get rid of it then well it has to be paid for somehow it's a bit like Peter you make a good point you know the reserve bank a few months ago said we're going to scrap a surcharge when you pay by credit card that's what's happening now is like for my credit card our bank is said we're putting up the interest rate and we're putting up the annual fees on your credit card and there'll be a lot of businesses out there who would have had that surcharge who are now saying oh well we'll just have to put up our prices so yes there's usually a price to be paid and you're caught about home lines is a good one because you might say oh well if the average price of a house goes from

1:41:00a million down to 900 thousand but it doesn't mean the bank will still lend you as much at a million as it would at 900 so the ability to buy house is very dependent on how much money the banks will lend and as you say the banks are risk of worse they don't want to lend so much money if house prices are falling again be careful what you wish for Jill good morning oh good morning Tom I just wanted to make mention but first of all our granddaughter bought her home yesterday oh good how old is she she's 26 and husband in one middle bay and she bought it and negotiated it the price was down and she did a great job but one with the question about the young ones what I did nobody saying anything about all the credit card yeah and not just credit card Jill but you probably heard of services like after pay and so forth so there's a yeah and the banks purposely get out there when a young couple go in and want to have the loan they also say oh would you like more credit card or would you like a

1:42:03whatever you you know yeah I think Jill the banks have to be a little careful about that now it used to be I have a credit card when I used to travel for work which has quite a large total amount that you can you can buy on or borrow I guess and that was because I needed it when I traveled a lot for work you know to pay for hotel rooms and things I don't go near that limit anymore but I think now as a customer legally you have to ask for an increase on a credit card the bank can't just offer it to you so I might look into that but yeah it's a very good point and if not credit cards there's so many other forms of credit I mean after pay is a good one and credit when you use properly is a very powerful tool when it's used badly it's quite destructive okay so I've read all these sort of news articles today about how the federal government is going to have a day of reckoning with big tech and we're going to tame the algorithm and I look at it and I look at it and I think okay I don't really understand what this means like do I get to decide what I see and don't see or it is you know the Albanese government decide for me and excuse

1:43:10technology experts and writer with online tech website picker Lee Stark good morning good morning mate how you going well good so what is this this day of reckoning with big tech but what does it actually mean it effectively means that the ability to serve you up things based off what they've learned about you it can effectively go away it's opt out the logic so you're you're given basically information content videos on an algorithm the algorithm is defined specifically to you and it sounds just like a whole bunch of mumbo jumbo it basically means that there's a set of rules that systems like Facebook and to talk learn about you as you use them and they use that to find what they can give you so that could be people you follow that could be posts that you'd like it could be things like that and it could be related to those sorts of things so other people like you so for example about a week ago I was researching this story which we discussed earlier today about they're going to have the Olympic rowing in 2032 in the crocodile and first of the

1:44:12future river and sure enough I started getting a lot more you know clips and stories about the sport of rowing which is fine I mean I used to do it and I'm sort of vaguely interested in it but I mean is that what we mean because I've looked up rowing for a while I get served a lot of rowing content or I bought a new pair of shoes a few months ago and you know I keep it the ads for similar sorts of shoes now like is is that what we mean it's probably more the form of than the latter you'll still get ads even with an opt out policy and you can depending on the phone or tablet you're using you can also determine whether those ads are taking data that you have actual first-party data or you can have it be completely anonymous and just have it serve random stuff it's more the former it's you searching for something and having that information automatically added to your feed that's distinct from say the way some services work which is that they'll serve you up the information that you intentionally follow so friends family celebrities things like that right more what an opt out system would look like okay so

1:45:14lot of more interested in surfing so at the moment if I look at surfing things I get fed more surfing things yes but if I opt out the only surfing content I will get would be you know other people's accounts that I've followed correct that's right all of that is correct and it's this is world wide or just Australia at the moment it's just Australia there's not really been a plan to opt out in other parts of the world Australia it's on the first place is to even drive a social media ban so where this is kind of an attempt to I guess improve life for anyone under 18 it's also an attempt to improve social media in general there's a lot of information that goes on there that can lead you into a bit of an abyss a rabbit hole at times and so this is an attempt to stem some of that it's not it's optional though you have the option of opting out you might like that but I'm trying to look at the harm that we're trying to avoid here so for example if I show interest in XYZ topics or issues and I get fed more of that sort of stuff lock wise that bad it's not necessarily bad it's also how engagement is measured so for

1:46:18instance if you hover over a video but you're not really interested but you kind of hate watching it which is something we do the system doesn't really have a way of determining whether that's a positive or a negative engagement and so it might just start feeding you more of what you don't like simply because you've watched a little bit of it and that same sort of effect can occur I guess throughout the entire ecosystem so if friends of you all will start watching that something that is harmful potentially harmful because their friends of yours the algorithm can then say well you might want to see that as well and so we end up with this awkward ecosystem where you're not necessarily being served up things that are actually desirable on your timeline and Facebook and other services aren't checking it so all right but I mean but if I go and actually search out things as some people might find harmful I'll still get served harmful things yes that's right that's your choice yeah I mean so it sounds to be like they're trying to wind back social media like 10 years like 10 years ago you only saw the things of people that you

1:47:19followed and then the algorithm came along and said here's a whole lot of similar stuff so you were trying to say let's get rid of the similar so let's give people the opportunity to get rid of the similar stuff I think they're trying to restrain it effectively so we don't know how most of the algorithms work beyond that they do have the ability to put things forward that are shaped by I guess a publisher months like how a publisher has the right to kind of change their career will apply I'm just I'm struggling to understand here how social harm and the insiders going to be improved by doing this it seems to me if you're hunting at bad stuff well you will say bad stuff and if you're not hunting it out chances are you won't I just don't say that this changes that that's the part that people don't understand if you're not looking forward but if it can relate to similar people like you or the fact that you're hovering on videos the algorithm algorithm could still give you things that you don't actually want like the serious mental disorder what well do you think this change the Australian government is making will it work will it make society a better place I don't I actually don't believe it will work I think it I think

1:48:22most social networks will either say we're not actually going to adhere to it or they'll do something like X and largely ignore it and we've seen that sort of approach I like that the government is trying it I just don't think it'll work yeah a bit like trying to keep 10 ages off social media like there were so many work around that it didn't work all right thank you Lee I think I've a better understanding of it now at least start their technology expert and writer what about three six don't three quick call uh Peter hello you good Peter what can you tell us I guess about the rolling in the Fitzroy River I grew up in Rockhampton and used to roll in that river where they're going to have the well where they proposed have the rolling for the Olympics probably about 20 years ago there were outrigues training in that area and a crocodile came up and bit the paddle one of the outrigues so you mean there's like outrigging canoes that's correct yeah that's so so so a so what a crocodile is bitten one of the

1:49:25paddles that's it yeah let's go on in the paddle yet you don't think there was also about 20 years ago there was a Sydney rowing crew like you know rowing with the long wars going up the paramount of river and the boat was rammed by a bull shark because of course bull sharks can tolerate freshwater as well as saltwater yes yes so in Rockhampton you have a barrage in the city it separates the freshwater from the saltwater uh saltwater full of bull sharks and crocodiles um and also sell is the um the freshwater done about bull sharks well to make for interesting racing why is it it certainly well I used to paddle a a surf ski there and um yeah it was um you look back now and think absolutely crazy after the outrigger incident I'd never go in that river again all right thank you paddup style the line we'll give you two bottles of the board these ancient soils heath good greenhouse so uh 20 years ago a saltwater crocodile has bitten the paddle in the Fitzroy River

1:50:27and in 2032 we're planning on having Olympic rowing and canoeing and kayaking there at 20 past 11 24 past 11 emails coming in Lorraine says a couple of things young people could also do to help them afford a home is forego tattoos oh that's true and I actually saw a young person again on social media the other day and very lovely young girl or young ladies in the 20s and she having all the tattoos removed so she spent money to have them on every limb of her body and other parts as well and I spent more money to have every single one of them taken off uh Peter uh speaking about Australian TV says Steve Weiser actually copied David Letterman uh that's interesting actually yeah I think you're right I sort of saw Weiser show is a bit of a cross between Don Lane and David Letterman but yeah you're right it was more like David Letterman and Phil said the other night of the news a Queensland politician said that Melbourne wasn't the sporting capital of the world anymore Queensland is well don't know about that and just on this um Andrew joins us

1:51:33Andrew good morning good morning Tom hey game oh well what have you noticed well there's a very big game of grid iron that's going to be played on Friday at the mcg and on the San Francisco 49 as app they seem to have the wrong backdrop for their game at the which is being held at the g because behind it is the opera house which is in which city that would be in Sydney this you car I will just had a look and you're right it's got San Francisco at LA because it's it's an away game for San Francisco and a technically a home game for Los Angeles and they've got the San Francisco uh I think it's the running back with the ball but I do it with the city opera house all right well that is unfortunate but uh it's the sort of thing people in America just to assume there is only one city in Australia and that's Sydney and the grid iron game well actually where the Americans do not call the sport grid iron the the field is the grid iron but the game

1:52:36itself is just called football and you that is very funny we'll certainly treat those words in the street the weekly prize which you could well be in the running is the 1,000 all of our service bended in july and the yearly prize 60 grand towards the Mercedes viewer choice thanks to our great friends at Mercedes Ben's Brighton uh Sarah good morning hi Tom um I was just listening to your conversation about the algorithm and turning it off and I just wanted to make a case for turning off the algorithm it's that continuous feed that actually makes social media so addictive um you get a dopamine hit all the time from this continuous feed you don't know what's coming up next and I think a lot of people want to spend more time off social media but still keep in touch with people they're purposefully following it following like friends businesses they're interested in and I'm not saying get rid of it completely but I think it would allow people to control their social media addiction and most people adult

1:53:38children who shouldn't be on it bury the level of addiction to all of us and if you can turn off the algorithm by choice it actually will help minimize I think people using social media you know sir and they want to yeah that that is a very interesting point and I hadn't really thought about that because I've only just got my head around like what the out what what turning off the algorithm really means but you are right and we're all guilty of it to a greater or lesser degree but sometimes I'll sit there scroll scroll scroll and I'm like you know I've got some work to do or a book I'm trying to read and I think oh god I've just wasted you know 15 minutes or whatever um the only thing is the visual government doesn't really talk about that they talk about not seeing harmful contents but I don't believe they've talked about just the addictive side of social media you know the so-called doom scrolling but here let's say um that is a very good point because yeah maybe that is maybe that is the main thing that would occur here you switch off the algorithm for you and the social media is still there and you still see the

1:54:41people and the accounts that you have deliberately chosen to follow but you don't get that we get less of that addictive as I call it doom scrolling Sarah excellent call thank you two bottles of the bottle these ancient soils heathic grenades coming your way as well now look Rob rang us early in the program nasty carcolas and he said it theorized that maybe a drunk or drug driver was speeding along high street road in Bayswater collided with another car ambulance Victoria of Toddles that uh mica and advanced life support paramedics have assisted and treated two patients at that scene one person has gone via road ambulance to the Royal Melbourne hospital and another person has been transported also by road ambulance to the maroon to hospital what I'll free six don't three so next week it is the 70th anniversary of television in Australia which takes us right back to September 1956 good evening and welcome to television the evening and welcome to television

1:55:41and that was before the Australian accent had really got going and it wasn't until the 70s that the the broad Australian accent someone's called ochre or maybe a bit bog in these days appeared you know tv presenters and newsreaders back then sounded a bit English me like David Armstrong for example um I don't know if free to wear tv is long for this world uh streaming services offers so much content not all of it is good but enough of it is good that you know if you can be or if you have the money to subscribe to then there's always something to watch but I do miss the fact that in the old days tv was invented tv I remember as a kid you know each year um really one coming to chocolate factory would come on and you know that was a big thing we'd always watch that film was one of the great films the other film was the Wizard of Oz as children we you know once a year that would appear we'd all watch it we talk about it at school the next day um obviously life sport has always been a draw card but shows that people used to watch I mean the footage show of the 90s was a good example or for me coming home in the afternoon I'm watching

1:56:43blankety blanks which was a bit risqué you know grey and Kennedy and uh there's a nolly and brown and ugly Dave Gray and people like that um and music programs uh sounds on the bit of a Donnie Sutherland countdown with Molly Meljum all gone now and sadly we just don't have that much good Australian TV these days and most of what we make now to fulfill local content quite as this reality TV which frankly I can take or leave um shows like Stingers you know back in the early 2000s about undercover police officers I really really enjoyed it David Armstrong who was laughing at me he joins us for the news headlines now David good morning of Gilles Stinger's story but I can't well you're more of a water rat man no not water rats you forgot um Stuart Wagstaff and Barry Creighton that's right remember I was watching Grand Kennedy had you know this very sort of fled suit on with massive open neck collars and the gold

1:57:46chain and you know what it was the mid to late 1970s it was a different one just on Stingers a house I lived in 25 years ago was used for a while as a a criminal's house um I don't know why but they seem to like it and I got five hundred dollars from the world something because they would fill my house at night and and there was a baddie living there the person living there was murder but there was there was a recent um Netflix series and it was shot here in Melbourne and it was so much fun to watch it and pick out the landmarks yes and great big chunks of it were made in this building right that's right yeah I remember coming downstairs um it was it was oh good it was it involved with police force and stuff yeah it was a book a child that was kidnapped and went missing and I was down at L wood they shot and I was watching it the actual shot and I said oh that's our building it is I thought I realized I'd seen the filming it and I hadn't connected the dots and it was sitting in America yes but somehow they managed to film it here so I know they had

1:58:47left hand drive cars at the front and things but yes it was in our office building this building was the Chicago police department and I I'm convinced they shot a scene actually where we work because they cleaned up the desks and we have the lockers that we have here at work that's over because we don't have plenty here anymore and use it medium sorry uh minister Enva Erdogan says elicit tobacco stores he expects to be shut down today he is waiting well he we're waiting for phone calls but no one no one has told us this yet well they have the power the police and uh in in spectres are out there and I have the power to close them down he wants a number closed down by end of business today sad news that blanche blanche Del Poujé former wife of Bob Hawk and uh wrote his biography she did yes yes and they they connected and later on got married number of used cars being sold across the country has absolutely leaped leaped for the second consecutive month eat apparently is people getting out of their petrol cars beginning into an EV

1:59:54and then selling their petrol car those numbers are spiking are you across the work of Jimmy Kimmer late night TV host in America well yeah I am but I get confused because there's quite a few of these shows and they all seem to be the same other than they have different hosts they are they on different networks yes are different networks once in New York once in L.A he's one that's in L.A he's gone um he'll be gone by early next year his contract won't be renewed Stephen Colby was another one that went earlier this year and in sport the exes that went and over continue why is it always western bulldogs use I can't write this is just happened this isn't used this is new liberal left yesterday Adam Trullor retiring from the game he had an unfortunate time but he sort of left collingwood and mistwining a flag and then he went to the bulldogs and didn't win one when he injured I know anyway let's hope that's the end of it all of that at midday yeah it is sad I saw that there were a ton of liberatoray and uh look he'll forever know that you know he played in that fabulous grand final when 10 years ago now in 2016 that was he had the worst tattoos in the

2:00:58AFL he did and the best for start how about that uh bottable three six dyn three mornings at three aw dot com dot a u uh we'll go back tomorrow you'll cause them over and and if you have any you know greatest TV memories of Australian TV shows next week is the 70th anniversary of the launch of TV in this country channel nine tonight is having a sort of a special showcase in the best of Australian television let me know but also I wanted them over to talk about iback so and I wish I'd known this on Monday but uh being carol said oh you know we're going to give iback the powers it needs I'm having a royal commission in the corruption but the new empowered iback apparently will be prevented from going back and reinvestigating things that have already been investigated even though with its new powers it could do a better investigation I think it's a cover I think it's to protect Jacinta Allen and maybe Dan Andrews and maybe other Labor Ministers maybe Ben Karol and would you believe it the Greens agree with me Victorian Greens leader Ellen Sandell joins us

2:02:00in a moment at 24 to midday it is uh 2012 couple of quick emails uh on greatest Australian TV moments it is almost the 70th anniversary of television in this country Macat says I love how my then teenage son discovered blanket he blanks on Foxtell all by himself and he quite enjoyed it and Phil says my wife and I still watch the DVD box set of the Crawford production series homicides which was a place in Melbourne in the 1960s Phil says being a car lover I love saying all the old cars in it yes from the 1960s growing your fill growing your Macat what does it say I'm pretty disappointed in that premier Ben Karol he said he wanted to give iback these powers to you know root out corruption and to follow the money it looks like iback we'll get the powers but for some reason it'll be prevented from reinvestigating things which the earlier less powerful version of iback it already looked at and to me this is ridiculous like iback couldn't follow the money back in the day now it can

2:03:02there are things it looked at where it would have liked to have followed the money but wasn't able to do so why can't they go back in time and and I must say I think that Ben Karol is trying to protect certain people just my guess my theory maybe it's the former premier just into Alan and excuse is leader of the Victorian Greens Ellen Sandell good morning good morning come how have I got this right and do you agree well can I put in my vote for Australian top TV first i'll break high i come on yes yes you will show ever yes my daughter wants the remake of that and thought it was absolutely fantastic the original was perfect TV but yeah so we are concerned with this iback bill firstly we're concerned because i think laver has really been dragged kicking and screaming to even bring this bill to the parliament the Greens introduced a very similar bill to this three times in the last four years in the last term parliament laver and the liberals voted it down every single time now it's five minutes to midnight right before the election and all of

2:04:03a sudden lavers in trouble and they're bringing the bill but in typical labor form there are some loopholes and carveouts in there that will be seeking to close okay so as i understand that the new iback after this bill will have more power particularly to follow the money whereas the old iback you know can only look at public servants and politicians but the new iback will be prevented from reinvestigating things that the old iback already looked at is that is that right yeah similar so yes it'll have follow the money power is the other important thing will be and expanded jurisdictions so so currently what iback can look into has to be such a high bar of criminal activity whereas in new south Wales the bar is much lower and so it'll lower the bar of the kind of corruption that iback can look into and that is a really important measure and that's something the government hadn't committed to until the Greens pushed for it so that's a good thing but yeah we are concerned by these loopholes and it's actually a little bit unclear in the wording around what retrospectivity will be in and what will be ruled out and because it is so unclear

2:05:05in the laws and we think it's a little bit fishy we'll be trying to move amendment just to get rid of that part so that it's very clear that things in the past can be looked into we've got two other amendments as well in fact because we think there should be public hearings we think Victoria should have transpired just like they have in new south Wales and we also think the ministerial code of conduct should be made public because now iback will be able to look into when ministers breach that code of conduct but actually that code of conduct isn't required to be public so how we're supposed to know if they've reached it if actually don't even know what it is well as they say the the best disinfectant is always bright sunlight isn't it exactly exactly so i mean how have you found dealing with Ben Carroll and I've interviewed him on like maybe three times since he became premier and he well he's different from Jacinta Allen and Dan Andrews i'll give him that but did you think he genuinely wants to reform these things or do you think he's trying to cover something up here i think i think it's a bit of both i think he does genuinely want to get rid of some of the terrible decisions that's labors made in the past and you know i've known Ben

2:06:08Carroll a long time he's a North Melbourne supporter North Melbourne's in my electorate i often see him at North Melbourne football club events and i think he does genuinely want to reform this but you know he's in labor and the typical labor fashion is to do good things with loop holes attached and that's what i'm concerned about is wise labor always putting these loop holes and carve out into reforms that Victorians actually need do you think it's designed to make sure that Jacinta Allen has a comfortable retirement and isn't bothered by being investigated oh who knows i don't know why they're doing it to be honest but we're going to move in a member to try and get rid of it that clause that prevents retro spectacularity because let's just make it clear let's just make it clear that i that can look into things in the past to bring up whatever it needs to bring up investigate whatever it needs to investigate Victorians deserve the same kind of anti corruption laws that they have in places like New South Wales we don't deserve less so that's why the Greens are going to move those amendments all right good luck with it thank you be time Ellen Sandell there Victorian Greens later and it's not often i agree with the Greens but there's bottom on this one

2:07:12again if the previous uh newtodd version of iback or you know iback that didn't have uh very many powers looked at something but couldn't take through investigation too far because they just didn't have the ability to do so if we're going to give this new version of iback a lot more power which seems to be happening they've got to be able to go back and relook at things and it doesn't matter if someone's reputation is going to get destroyed or whatever because and Ben Carroll has made it clear on this show and in other forums you know he wants to sort of route out all this corruption and so forth right well then let this new version of iback do its job anyway back to calls the moment vulnerable three six nine three anything you would like to discuss also mornings at three ow.com.au at a quarter to twelve it is uh eleven to twelve pole joins us poor good morning oh good morning so i'm before i get under the uh point that i're ring about about the algorithm i just want to share a story i was lucky enough to be in the channel live studio is in Richmond to see

2:08:12grain can at east coast and john mangloss was giving grain can at the listening in green again it's absolutely hilarious uh if you want to see it it's on youtube if yeah that that's when nimes and there was bendigo straight in the the extent of Richmond wasn't it yeah correct uh okay what else do you want to say Paul? yeah just to cover off the question about the algorithm and lea stark didn't quite mention and is you don't have to be on social media to be um to have the algorithm to start and attract you you can be all sorts of devices like for example you buy a new smart tv you log on and not only does it attract your viewing habits but anything you plug into the tv for example your DVD player or your home movie camera everything that goes through those hd my ports are tracked and that's actually thriving i mean that the the the there are do not track tape of bill is on the devices but their buried in the menu is and i suspect 98% of people at Biden don't even know them well i

2:09:15i would say it's 99.9% if i didn't ever realize that but Paul could i tell you so i don't know do you listen to us via the app or via radio uh via radio and the app okay so what is the interesting with the app now is that um you know you could be driving through north western victoria and the mill juror and you can either hear this show on a local radio station because it's networked but but most people would say i'll just listen via the app and pretty soon i'm told via the app we'll be able to know where you are and this is the theory serve up ads that you know reflect the local area so if it's like an ad for some way to eat it would be an ad for some way to eat in mill juror as opposed to an ad for a pub in south melvin anyway that that's where it's headed but thank you Paul i don't know if that counts as the algorithm uh showing good morning good morning Tom i had to drive up to shepardinway on monday between mercusan and tautura the road

2:10:19was so bad but driving back yesterday from shepardin on the golem valley highway from there um ways tell you where or potholes and everything guys yes it was having a connection it had a meltdown there was just so many potholes and there was cars again parked on the side of the road with um punches yeah well that's not supposed to happen is it because bin carol's toleracy is going to spend uh what is it was three hundred and yes three hundred and fifty two million between now in the end of summer to fix them all obviously that will take a while but i agree with you shane it is just it is appalling that you know i've said this many times as a motorist you are legally required to have a road worthy car and yet the government doesn't seem that it is legally required to have car worthy roads coming up straight after the midday news the award-winning afternoons program tonny moclea good morning if you want to eat in mil juror go to hoodax bakery yes it's very good because you lived there for a while nine years that's where we emigrated to in 1973 back when we told immigrants where they had

2:11:23exactly right you lived in a tin hut we did yes and you went to the local scout group i did actually we had motorbikes used to go to how to like so it was awesome yeah anyway that was a long time ago why why we're not we read school camp in u9 and how to like yeah so we were what do you mean you know i'm 14 and we were led out on a three day hike in groups of six yeah no teachers no and just given bearings to follow we'd learn to sort of orient here we had to find water and whatever now i don't think they allow no in your old stop to wander around the bush for three days three nights no word of a lie we've been given my low tins with an inch of nitro glycerin in it and we had to take that from one uh one corner of the exercise area to the other without getting intercepted and we failed no s a s for us anyway we're talking about home buying did you get any help from the bank of mum and dad what financial assistance have you got from your parents one of the team has noticed that christmas plum puddings are on sale is nothing sacred we'll talk about that we're not doing too well in education but at least we're better off than one player of the 49ers

2:12:30who's let's just say geography is not too strong so you're really going to want to get well well this is endemic because we had a word in the street earlier on of the program putting out that the on the san francisco 49ers website it's got a picture of one of their players i think he's like a running back yeah and it's in australia and the backdrop is the city of her house which as far as i know is not in Melbourne yeah you are going to be amazed at the 49ers grasp on geography when i play this audio uh we will uh talk about the melvin zoom moving a giraffe to Perth what's the most difficult thing you've ever had to move and they'll be motoring with paul gova and a preview of the footy with libby birch well they're just on that there there was a giraffe that had to go either from australia to new zeland all the other way and of course had to go via ship because you can't put a giraffe on a plane and i've watched a show about it it was the the most extraordinarily difficult thing moving a giraffe not something most people would do no well that uh a brother of mine had to help a mate with a baby grand piano up three flights of stairs so that's the sort of

2:13:32thing we'll be talking about i'd prefer to move a giraffe to be honest all right that's uh tony moh clear and the afternoons program coming at you straight after the midday news uh greg hello good day tom tom um when i watch the senate estimate committee um committees what else to see her a handsome young do one of their life because all she seems to do is sit on these committees you know criticising everyone and have you ever seen a smile like it's uh now i i i agree with you greg serians and young is uh angry at the world uh you know environmental degradation and various other things and i agree with you 100% i don't think i've ever seen a smile thank you greg one level three six nine three at five to twelve it is just on midday that means this show is over for another day but fear not you got used

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