#469 David Weck returns!

0:00Welcome to today's podcast. We have the return of my brother, David Weck. David Weck, of course, the inventor of the Bosu ball, the propulsors, and many other things. RMT clubs, really the inventor of rope flow, too. So you see all rope flow guys blowing up might see me on Instagram using the thick rope, not really jumping, just drag and roll in and moving it around, you know, opening up the spine. A lot of people in functional fitness, fine to use for it. And then comes from David, David is a genius. He thinks outside the box. And he is not afraid to piss people off. He's got he's got a fucking a little angry bone in them, which I appreciate because it gives him his fire and a spark and he's quite passionate about what he does. I've been training with Connor Milstein for the last year and a half. He's been on the podcast multiple times and David was one of Conor's mentors. So little lineage history there like you would with Jiu Jitsu or anything else. David has a new book coming out October 17th. And so that you know we're a little ways away from the book launch, but you know make a note in your calendar. He's going to sell it for a dollar 99 just buy it for two bucks. It is well worth your time. I just spent the last week reading it.

1:11And we unpack a lot of what's in that book, but there's so much more that didn't we didn't have time to discuss today. David's a guy could have on the podcast a dozen times and we'd still be just scratching the surface. So this is a great podcast. I think what he lays out in the book. It's not only entertaining and informative of David's life, but it's really cool to map because what we did in our first podcast, we kind of map the trajectory of, you know, each of his inventions, the why behind it, you know, are all things birthed and a necessity. But with the writing of the book, it was just so much more personal and so awesome to see, you know, behind the scenes like what makes him tick. And entertaining is all hell super informative and you know, as I joke about in the podcast, he's probably the only fucking guy that could make balance sexy that can make like the idea of training balance, something that a type of athlete who used to give a shit about, you know, what's your bench press. I think that got to be on myself. He's probably the only guy that could make me think like this is outside of maybe Paul check that this is something that should be desired and get you fired up to want to train balance.

2:18And I can tell you right now from personal experience and training with Connor for the last year and a half, but also in just doing basic shit on a bosew ball and with the flow rope. That when you increase balance, you increase all of all other intangibles, right. And so we talk about, you know, on this podcast, his math equation of strength over balance equals power. And you might say, oh, you know, powers well fast, you move something heavy like yes, yes, but really understand, you know, power, how, where you get your power from. It comes from strength, it comes from speed, it comes from all those things, but it is all a factor of how much balance you have, you're only as strong as your weakest link. And one of the beautiful things he lays out from that book and his time in Chinese medicine and Tai Chi is this understanding that balance is affecting our nervous system. Our nervous system is always checking in with our environment. And if we're off balance, if our posture sucks, that affects not just how I look, it affects how I feel, it affects my confidence and my anxious, all of its interconnected. I've been teaching people for years that true mental health always starts with the body true emotional health always starts with the body.

3:24And as you get a level of self mastery, that's a springboard to higher levels of consciousness. It's a springboard for greater levels of productivity, productivity, greater levels of connectivity in relationships and greater sense of empathy, all of it from having your body right. So David maps this beautifully and I've said enough here and support this sponsor, support this show, support this show by sending it to friends, support David by checking out his website, weckmethod.com will link to all this in the show notes and support our sponsors that makes this show possible brain supreme.com the very best in all of micro dosing. And of course, check out my community and of course, check out my community at the kingdom within. We got a small group going right now. We are in month five and you are not too late to jump in. I am still teaching very core stuff. You have access to everything that I've done before. So in that one week of free, you know, your free trial, you get a free trial when you sign up in that one week of free trial, you can go back and look through everything up top before all right there, absorb it all, write it down, record it, do whatever you want with it. And then you can sign off if it doesn't, if it doesn't stick with you, but I will end up that it's going to move you.

4:34All right, without further ado, my brother David Weck. David Weck, welcome back to the podcast. This is awesome, brother. I'm so happy you're here. Oh, man, I couldn't be more excited. This has been great. You sent me a copy of your new book that's about to release and I was thrilled. We had a great podcast the first go around. I learned a lot about you, but the book really went deep in so many things. Not just, you know, telling the story of your career and your inventions, but deep into you. And I really appreciated that. I really appreciate getting to witness, you know, the man behind the man, you know, the inner workings that make you who you are. I think that that's an important factor to sort of bear your soul and reveal sort of your fundamental motivations, the trials, tribulations, the, you know, the successes, the failures. And basically that, you know, I can always take another step. I can always take another step and to go from a, you know, a position where you don't know things to you've discovered things.

5:40And really the intent of the book is I want people to understand how simple it is to establish and maintain physical integrity when you walk as the fundamental foundation for winning it life. As in more joy, less pain, never giving up and actualizing your foolish, but fullest potential with just a practical pragmatic and very simple way to reside in this realm, you know, physically that is accountable in a manner that's not uptight, not restricted without even knowing it. Yeah, I think that that's such a critical piece that people really don't understand, you know, I feel like having been 268 pounds when I played football at Arizona State, I could feel the difference that weight came off incrementally, you know, when I first got into fighting, I was 245 pounds, became very hard for me, training full time to stay in the 240s.

6:47I was like 238 that weight kept coming down. They're like, hey, I think you could fight it light heavyweight. I was like, well, if Brock Lesnar is cutting to make 265 pounds and Shane Carman's cutting to make 265 pounds, and my teammate, Kane, who's going to be World Champions already 245, maybe I should try to drop. Of course, nobody knew about John Jones back then. We were rookies the same year, but that's what got me to get down and wait, and then I found light heavyweight is actually probably where I belong, but it came off in stages, and I can still feel the difference. I didn't feel fat, I didn't feel overweight. I was running stadium stairs. There's a 268 pound guy in pads, right? I could do that. But man, you know, resting heart rate, just all these things started to open up. I think people can use the analogy that like, imagine if you have a 40 pound weight vest on your whole life, and you drop that 40 pounds, right? That'd be a big difference in how your body feels, and that's just speaking to, you know, obesity and things of that nature.

7:47But from a nervous system perspective, which is really one of the core themes throughout, you know, the book and what you're teaching is that we don't even recognize, you know, like the more spun up we are, if that's, if that's our baseline, then that's just the baseline. You know, it might take meeting somebody else who's much calmer, or you're like, oh, that guy's calm, you know, what are you drinking, buddy? You know, like, I've got a lot of shit to do. I'm going. But how much of that has to do with how our spine is an alignment or an alignment, how we walk, how we carry ourselves, our posture, in all of those things, and a lot of the training practices that, you know, we were taught in football and growing up in general and from muscle and fitness, do not necessarily make us better. They don't tone the nervous system, they don't make us better at becoming more grounded, right? You talk a lot about feet in the book. I think that's an important conversation to talk about today. But I just wanted to say I was blown away by the connecting points you made in how we operate in the realm, right? How do I fill this body can actually determine not just how I appeared other people, but how I think how I feel my general baseline nervous system in my fight or flight constantly.

9:03Because it will have a low dose, you know, my my credo, see anxiety 24, 7, is that my natural, neutral state? No, it's not, but that might be my neutral state, you know, for the last 20 years, it's fixable and it's fixable through the body. And I think that's a really critical point. It's not fixable from a fucking pill. It's not fixable from, you know, some crazy thing out there. It's, it's, it's right here. It's accessible. And I think you do a great job of bridging those gaps and threading this all together. Because I'll be honest, when I opened it and I said, you know, you've got a 21 day guy to walking better at the end. I laughed out loud. I was like, I think he's probably the only fucking guy that can get away with saying, here's your 21 day walking routine and still have people finished the book. I feel like that's, that's the least sexiest shit I've ever read, you know, like when you think about like growing, growing, growing in your biceps in 21 days, you know, we're at 50 pounds to your bench press shit that I geeked out on when I was a kid. If I thought I'd be reading a 21 day walk better routine and actually have any care in the world about it, I don't think I could have done that, but you can pull this off.

10:07Oh, that's amazing. Well, first of all, football was my love. Okay, I loved it more than anything. I played eight years and I was division three because there is no div four. Okay. But the goal for football was always bigger, faster, stronger or bigger, stronger, faster. And so I would eat 10,000 calories a day in high school. Just and my neck was big, but I was small and then I played D back in college. So I couldn't play quite the same weight as I was in high school. But what I learned in life is that in order to make the heart and the strong more effective, you counterbalance it with the soft and receptive. And if you can go to polarities there. And that's why I really love the martial arts because sensitivity and skillful strength is the essence of martial arts and a wrestler knows how to make himself invisible to your face.

11:12I'm sure if you've had a role in previous force, a jujitsu player. It's as much about that. You can't find me so that I get to exploit the fact that I'm not even as strong as you, but I still get the tap you or choke you or whatever I'm gonna do For me, I had never experienced any desire to get softer, more receptive. Like no, it was always just, you know, I'm going to plow you over and I love that. I would salivate with big hits, you know. But if you look at like a Reggie White, a Reggie White, he was the greatest defensive end of all time in National Football League and his hump, his hump move was that skillful application of winding up one side, unilaterally taking a 300 pound man and doing this, whereas what you're generally more taught is sort of this bilateral thing, right? And they're both of critical importance.

12:14But when you have the capacity on the sides, which martial is cited, I mean, when are you, you know, just straight on bilateral, I mean, soup like somebody, but it's going to a side. So my development and understanding of movement came from the study of locomotion, which is objective, masters faster. And I set my sights on that is the principal function with which I want to optimize, hence 21 days to do it better. But what I found out in the process is that fight is the other side of that coin of flight and fight is subjective. A beats B, B beats C, C beats A, my master's better than yours, you know, okay, we're going to fundamentally disagree who the best is, but it's the ultimate chess match and it's the ultimate insincereity, right?

13:15Losing a game is a lot less traumatic than losing a fight. Okay, all the lights are on you. It's just you and him. Here we go. And if you get beat up, that's a difficult pill to swallow than having 11 guys lose. And it wasn't a fight. So I think that that understanding that you will have more physical prowess, the more elegant you can be to supple big cat like fluid than just the, you know, the big clunky. And the martial art requires it. And so that's why I have such an affinity for flight and fight. A long time ago it was who's the fastest man in the world? Who's the baddest man in the world? Heavyweight boxer, fastest man in the world before, you know, you got paid to play with a ball. Yeah, those are those are the original things we give a shit about for a reason, for good

14:15reason too, right? Yes. I love the fact that you were able to bring in the martial arts component, but I don't know if I'm saying it right. Felden Kroy, is that the guy you spoke about? Felden Christ. Who was? Felden Christ. Who was a judo expert? Break, break, break, bring in the story Felden Christ of the podcast because I thought that was phenomenal. And then of course you're, you're, you're training with the Tai Chi Master, you know, push it all of that. I think that was really good because it paints a visual for me. I had, you know, same type of thinking. I brought football mentality to fighting and thankfully had early on one of my first great striking coaches, Vince Perez, Missola was a Jeep condo expert, spent, you know, 30 years training with Dan and Asanto at the Asanto Academy, actually got the train with Bruce Lee before he passed. And, you know, he understood some of these components, you know, why you train with different, you know, sticks, collie, things like that. Dr. Mark Cheng had come out and, you know, and, you know, huge fan of yours, huge fan of

15:16pobbles and really, and a guy who thinks outside the box, you know, what he was talking about, you know, when Mark was young, his father would always do Tai Chi. And he watched him till he was about 10. And finally, you know, he's tan, he's feeling tough. He's like, dad, why don't you do that Tai Chi stuff? It's not a real martial art. He goes, oh, you don't think it's a martial art? And he goes, no, it's not a martial art. You know, fight somebody like that doing these super slow, stupid moves. And he goes, come here and try to hit me. And, you know, his son just comes and tries to hit him and he does one of the Tai Chi moves and sends him through the wall. And I was like, it's so hard. He didn't know her room. But, you know, the mom had something to say about it. But after that point, Mark was like, holy shit, like I have a newfound respect for this. And then, you know, of course, he's become a Tai Chi master himself. But this practice of perfect movement with the breath and a controlled atmosphere where everything is moving, you know, the slower you move, check taught me about that. You know, the slower you move in concert with the breath, we're doing Tai Chi, the faster

16:17that she will raise. Right? It's not about getting more reps in. It's about, you know, that timing, getting everything in harmony and just bringing it in slower and slower. Now that she's starting to run faster and faster and moving through the body. And I really appreciated that analogy. But break all this stuff down. This is awesome. Yeah. So, yes, slow is smooth and only smooth is truly fast. So you have that. And what I will say about the Tai Chi is in order for it to be effective, you also need the capacity for hard. So, you know, the Tai Chi master who's only ever done soft is going to get punched in the nose. So you need the hard, right? Because it is the polarity and the real thing is both, right? And like you're saying, you're cultivating the sensitivity so that if a fly lands on here, the entire body is set into motion. And the slow capacity is the ability to stay relaxed so that you can go at speed.

17:21And felting Christ, as I just is like, hey, I'm on a podcast. Sorry about that, Kyle. I love it. It's good. You're yelling at me. So, as I described in a book, I had lower back pain that stemmed from weak feet. I didn't know what I was doing and I was always hard, hard, hard, right? And that's when I discovered felting Christ who he himself had the hard and the soft, because judo and what is more receptive and then hard than judo, right? A really good judo player is going to break your neck, not what is, you know, he's going to break it with the floor or a wall. And he had the capacity to connect to another person's nervous system, okay? And take command of the entire body with that trust because of his capacity to harm you or heal you. And so he would guide someone's nervous system through like, okay, let's find the path

18:25in your unique body that feels the best because it is the best given the idiosyncrasies of whatever, you know, issues you have in your body. And I had just invented the Bosu ball, you know, as a result of the back pain. And then as I was getting the, you know, the Bosu ball up and running and started to get a little income, that's when I engaged in a felting Christ professional training program that it didn't complete because it didn't need to. I got the essence of what it was and I got the master's hand. One of his first disciples who was up in, you know, Amherst, Massachusetts at the very beginning, he was the teacher and he gave me a treatment on the table. And this was change on the table. Like I got off and I'm like, oh my gosh, you just unlocked the restriction. I didn't even know I had the restriction, but the freedom from it. So that's what cued me into the idea that less can be more, that allows more to be more

19:29because now you have better usage and better force transmission. You're not getting stuck by yourself. And that is what gave me the sort of the capacity to say, oh, okay, Tai Chi, okay, there's three internal Chinese martial arts. And the best description I ever had describing them was in relation to a circle. So you have Shin Yi, okay, which is boom penetrating the circle. So it's cutting to the center of the circle. The Bhagwa is circling the circles with these sort of eight changing palms and the spirals. And Tai Chi is the center of the circle. All things come to Tai Chi and Tai Chi yields neutralizes. Let you go on your merry way or smashes you into a wall, take your pick, which one you want. Right? And that's the philosophy.

20:31And can it be actualized? Well, who knows? If you have a cell phone in your pocket, you're probably not able to resonate like some ancient true master. But the manipulation of the fundamental objects, which is stick stones and ropes, is a requirement in my opinion to reach unarmed capacity, empty handed combat, which is just the modern contrivance. Because if you showed up back in the day, go back 50,000 years and don't bring up a stick to the fight, he did your ass beat. So it's only in the social agreement that we're both going to come into a ring. We're not going to, you know, hit each guy in the balls. We're not going to hit but you know, no, not clawing your eyes out. Whereas if it's for real, it's a beer bottle. It's a two by four. It's a stick. It's a knife. It's a gum. Whatever for me. It's mace. Mon lethal. It's on me all the time. The situation awareness and confidence is what I'm after.

21:39So confidence is, I don't want a nervous system. I want a confident system. And if I can't control the forces coursing through my body of simple gravity in the ground, what chance do I have to deal with external forces optimally? And so, and I've studied the martial art by studying the principles and then having the very good fortune to touch with the master, you know, capacity. You know, Shangri-Yi and Salo Rabiero, my first appearance is privates with Salo. You know what I mean? So I'm not like fighting some blue belt with both, you know, just fighting not getting better. I'm feeling the mastery, you know, Tai Chi, William, C.C. Jenny took my balance before I even knew my balance was gone. But over across the room in his studio, his two kids are, you know, are preparing for a full on contact, San Jiao fight.

22:40So the legitimacy of does it actually work versus just a bunch of pretending and woo-woo, you know, no touch knockout, I could hypnotize you and then I can knock you out. But if I'm non-compliant, then I don't got a chance, right? So that's what I really appreciate about the fighting is, okay, results rule. The underdog who is not as good can still win. And that's that fact where, you know, Hacin Rockman knocks out Lennox Lewis, okay, and rematch his retribution. But it's so honest that the better man can even lose and that's what makes it so interesting. That's the infinite complexity of chess or go is the marshal. And failed in Christ was that clue in that me, okay, the only person who aspires to look and be like me is an overweight dad, okay? There's not a 14 year old alive who aspires to look like me.

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25:47I think a lot of people when they first get into this, in terms of balance training, functional movement, things of that nature, you see people going back and forth online just fucking yapping one corner, yapping the other. You still need to have the bail ability to move heavy weight. It's like, all right, maybe you can play football, that kind of stuff. And then the other side, it's like all that fancy shit doesn't translate. Well, somewhere in between, you do start to see the rubber hit the road and you actually see results. And obviously, you've trained some of the best people in the world. Your career as a coach is spoken for itself, right? And I think that that's awesome. And I love that you laid that out so beautifully in the book. But one of the best breakdowns of why this is important that everyone should be figuring this out, which is completely counter to what we're taught in muscle and fitness and life growing up in the 80s and 90s is that we're taught how to build muscle, right? We're taught how to build, how to work a particular exercise, gets to be bigger arms, chicks like the big biceps. I know that because of the movies.

26:48So that's why I'm going to work, right? And then you get all these machines and shit that take us further away from our human element. Hands can build big muscles, but don't necessarily translate to athleticism. Whole books have been written about what is functional, what isn't. And now you see a lot of people doing fancy acrobatics, but you're not sure how that necessarily translates. But you said this very succinctly, which I think is incredibly important, strengths over balance equals power, right? And I was like, fuck, dude, that's it. Because if you don't, and I thought of this, I got juice to the gills trying to make it to the NFL. Really just trying to start the issue. And I was like, I haven't seen the movie, but a Vladimir from the program, right? I thought that aggressive with ladies, but definitely, I mean, I was running it. And 268 seemed to be my cap. Also eating 10,000, 12,000 cars a day. I loved training. I loved getting strong. I had a 405 bench press. I was like, this is fucking rad. This is awesome. But because I was training traditional styles, I wasn't, you know, getting into one leg.

27:50I wasn't coiling. I was learning how to change direction. I had no balance whatsoever. So it was almost impossible. Because at 268, I'm plenty big enough to play NFL defensive in. And I know I'd have played defensive in. But if I couldn't change direction without falling flat on my body or rolling an ankle, right? So that's a problem. You can't change direction. And you have to contain on the outside. So I said, fuck it. Moving to the three technique. I'll play defensive tackle. I can bull rush anybody. I can rip move through two, through two offensive linemen. Put me there. And I did quite well, even, even undersized if the three technique. But ultimately, that was my downfall. And I had put myself in the only one position because I liked balance, because I liked coordination. And when you frame that and you talk about, you know, our ability to access the strength we already have through even traditional exercise, like the big three bench squat, deadlift, it's dependent upon our balance in that we're only as strong as the weakest link in our chain. Right? So something's going to give in sport or I'm either going to get hurt or miss the tackle

28:53if I don't have balance, if I don't have full access to move in a proper way. Right? So thinking about that, a really framed that mathematical equation framed it in a way for me that made perfect sense. And you know, I've had the honor of working with one of your students, Connor Milstein, for the last year and a half, he's helped me a fuck ton. I'm pain-free, broken neck, knee problem, everything. I have a list of injuries like yourself from football and fighting and motorcycle accidents, all the fucking things, right? It's the first time I've been pain-free since I was young, probably since my 20s. And so, you know, completely pain-free in my standing existence, I'm deadlifting like none of it brings up any issues now, thanks to working through, you know, integrating the body, right? Foundation, rotation, weaponization. So big, big, big credit there for you and Connor and I love the stuff that you teach. But that very simple equation, when I thought about that, I was like, God, that's everything. And you know, my son still had, I was watching him in Jiu-Jitsu since he was little, right?

29:56He did a little bit of no-geek when he was young, but then really got into it at seven in the geek when we got here to Austin and training with Paula Brando. Actually got his black belt on the same day as Solo Hibero at the same gym from Heuler. Oh wow. Awesome. And Shangi lives here. You know, I came to Paula's baby. He just had a baby. That's so cool. He texted me last night with a picture of his baby on his chest and I said, so that up baby. It doesn't last that long. It doesn't. That's amazing. I'll reach out to him. But yeah, man, thinking about that, I remember watching my son saying like, oh, he's so much better at takedown defense than I was. So much better. And I'm like, how is that? But as you talk about, you know, your feet being in their foot prisons, especially in a special kind of foot prison is a roller blade, right? Yeah. Wonderful. Some seem to be right. I think that is a rapid index. How is it? I don't know. So, and this is true.

30:56Unbelievable. Yeah. I know. I ask about what's that like in my brain? Like, I think it is going to be okay. Like it would be a bad thing or power if they had only death as if that's a endeavour? Like, I say in her words, big mouth. But many people have that same experience. It's just not as in their face because they're wearing heels on occasion, or they have to wear work boots five days a week. And they never go barefoot anywhere, right? And so that foot problem still happens. And I realized my son, you know, thinking about it when I was watching, I had no idea why he had better balance. But balance is our verse, right? It is something we're born with. And it's just slowly siphoned away from us due to the shoes we wear. And then our repeated stressors sitting like this, in front of a TV, whatever eating at the table, that kind of stuff. And so between the equation you give, and then the idea of the feet, like start to unpack this stuff for us,

31:57because I think it is something that really is one of the beautiful threads that goes throughout the entirety of the book, is how this is something that's innate to us. It's been lost through a number of factors, but it's completely regainable. Yeah, completely regainable. I mean, I found it from, let me just say a few things. So first, the equation, the math. So everybody's clear on sort of what I mean by strength over balance equals power. So in an equation, the top number bigger makes the equal number, the power bigger. And under what's called the denominator of the number on the bottom of the fraction, the smaller that is, the bigger exponentially the power is. And so how I define it is strength, you want it to be as big as possible for a one, for one relationship in more power, but the balance is where you can get the exponential,

32:57where that judo person instantly swips him in bang. And before you knew it, you had an expression of power that was way stronger than what a top capacity strength could be. So you want to bring that balance down as close to the zero inefficiency as possible so that you have maximum access to power at all times. All right. Now, a human being comes into this world very, very plastic, meaning you learn how to walk and you learn how to talk by the nurture the others around you. So if you were brought up around people who walk on all fours and bark and sniff and eat but their mouth, that's what a human being would do. And there's precedent for that, you know, human beings have been raised in the backyard with the dogs and, you know, 12 years old, you're a dog. So the, but it is the birthright of any creature on God's green

33:58earth to move with efficiency. And I think God set it up and said, eat or be eaten, go. And what we figured out was we figured out how to potentiate the ultimate economy by going vertical, which is very challenging and a lot more effort to attain the position. Right. But the reward is I can chase it down for seven hours and outrun it and tired it down. So I get to eat it despite the fact that I don't have claw sharp teeth or much physical prowess compared to the other predators or even the prey, right. So we are reliant upon tools and the tools are the fundamental teachers. And I don't think inact in antiquity just because the scarcity of calories required it. I think efficiency was factored in. Otherwise that seed didn't procreate, protect, provide. Okay. If you can't go get the bacon and bring it home, well, then guess what?

35:00Your seed is done. Okay. How unfortunate, but how fortunate because we don't need weakness on this planet, we need sustainable strength. And when it comes to athletic training, stronger is better. Anyone who's going to say stronger isn't better, just go look at yourself in the mirror and understand that you are so fundamentally confused that you're a danger and a hazard to society. Okay. The stronger is better. Provided that it's not wrong strong. Okay. So the conventional training just picking up heavy shit. I mean, when I was in high school, you just, you know, we squatted, we deadlifted, we benched and then it was your own natural athleticism that funneled whatever I did to make myself bigger, stronger, faster. That wasn't bridged through instruction and the instruction was actually incorrect.

36:01Keep your core brace. Don't let your head move. 90, 90 cheek to cheek. That is fundamentally not athletic. It's pathetic, but the good athletes did it correctly anyway because the athletic intelligence and the external objective, they weren't thinking like, oh, I need to put my head here. No, I got to go catch the fucking guy and I'm going to just go catch the guy, the buddy, they correct things, right? So we were bailed out from the ignorance and what happened was, if I bench press and I squat and I deadlift and I do pull down, and I just, you know, sagittalitis is my training. If I'm athletic, I'm still throwing, right? I'm still running. I'm still swinging that require me to move athletically. And as long as you don't have the science guys in the 2006 seven range, we're not at telling you intellectually to think about it wrong.

37:02And weaponizing this science, it's like, oh, you need to brace your core and get science. Yay. I mean, that shit, that is so insidiously harmful because now you got people inside, not focused on the external objective, which is the key to moving. Well, thinking is slow. You're sitting there. Oh, I got to move my head here. You're there. No, you rehearsed the movements. You do it. You're not thinking in sports. This is at the speed of life. If this is, if you're on offense, I have 0.16 second disadvantage fundamentally. I mean, if you're in Marshall and you're in boxing range, you have to respect the fate. But as soon as you make contact and it's grappling, well, you know instantaneously because you feel it, you don't have to see it. Right? And that's why most fights end up on the ground. Because you get punched and you realize, oh, shit, I'll grab this guy move to get punched again. I'm going to tackle him and put him on the ground. Right? So now we're experiencing this sort of renaissance because I know

38:10and I'm as competitive as they get. You give me a chance to win. Okay. I'm competitive. I knew I'd never play football past college. I could go to France and make 500 bucks a week and you know coach and play. Yeah, okay, great. Here's no future in it. But I took it as seriously and I have a very large ego. I want to be the best I'll admit it because I'm honest. We're going to arm wrestle. We're going to do pull ups. We're going to throw the ball. We're going to see who can spit further. I want to know who the better man is. Okay. So I better figure out what the fuck I'm good at that I can win. And it turns out that this perfect storm of inventing the bossu ball. Okay. To get the mailbox money to fix my pain and now realize there's a lane for me here because everybody else engaged in the process of this study biomechanics has the burden of teaching it now where you don't have the leeway to go off track

39:13have nerve pain in your left foot because you figured out something that wasn't right that you don't teach because you can't come in scratching your head to the college wait room and say, oh guys I got a theory and if it works we're all going to win but if it doesn't work I don't have a job right. So I had the leeway and the resources to explore these far out. I went to Chinese medical school again I only went for a year because I'm not going to be put needles in people but I needed to get this source understanding and what you find out is the tomato is a tomato is a pomodoro meaning eastern philosophy that is true goes to the center western philosophy okay mechanistic let's break it down the atomic particles okay parts parts parts versus yin and yang if you're on the true path both come to the center and they corroborate each other okay and God gave me an intellect and he gave me you know I could sleep for four

40:14hours I'm fine I burn very hot I'm super super competitive and if I believe that okay I can I'm playing hearts and I can shoot the moon will fuck it give me every heart give me the queen of spades give me the jacket diamonds I'll take them all it's the risky play but it's the big winner and so I recognize that that because the focus in our industry fitness is so much on the hard hard hard hard hard hard and those who are doing the soft soft soft soft don't counterbalance it with hard if I can understand polarity and optimize both ends of the spectrum I get the maximum bandwidth and I play football I'm not afraid to run into a wall death or injury was superior to messing up and losing it was a hundred percent commitment and I played in the 80s in high school where my objective was to break your helmet with my helmet all right because she was not an injury it was called your bell got

41:17wrong get back in there right so you got dinged up just a different era just a different era and for me I would always off gas on Saturday night with you know with alcohol and what I liked about it is I was very type A and I was nervous all the time in high school because I was thinking like I have to win I have to win but I'm not the best so I but I still have to win and it created this great conflict internally my armpits would sweat I was nervous all the time and so unleashing the beast and removing all inhibition on a Saturday night was like I would head put anyone and I don't care I will not quit I will not quit right I had that I had that tenacity and put the drive to be the best until I was you know captain at a football team in high school nobody worked harder you know like that kind of thing and you need to counterbalance to both because after college

42:17rather than go work on Wall Street and get rich which was the plan that's the fallback plan if I can't do football I know I can't do football well get good grades graduate but honors doing internship down on Wall Street I could walk right into that world but then when it came time for that I was like holy shit my life is going to be two and a half kids in a big mansion in Connecticut we're going to summer in the Hampton shoot me now and I had a friend who did the movie clerks he was in it and so I looked at okay I'm going to be an actor and so I dove into that and being rejected you know two thousand times if you count the commercial auditions it fundamentally changed me so that I could stand in front of other people and root myself through relaxation and confidence because standing on a stage why you want you know the podium or the dius is because it's a fourth wall it gives you balance if you don't have that you

43:24you start to get like uh twitchy like okay I'm nervous because it's rising the tension is rising and that is the wrong direction for tension to go you need to send it down boom and that's why weak feet is so insidious is because when your foot is weak you are apprehensive every single time you go to put your weight on something and for anybody listening step on a Lego in the dark you just go up to the ceiling with the ultimate empathetic if you had to deal with the defense attack all this is the worst response I could have because now I'm uprooted if I'm in a fight and I do that well you can basically have your will and even if I do hit you there's no authority because I'm no longer hitting you with the floor and my theory is that the bones are strong they're strong when you're sick they're strong when you're healthy learn how to transmit all the force via the bones so that now the muscles and the tendons ligaments the fascia

44:33that's fluid to let it flow so the skeletal integrity and I discovered sort of oh I can arrange my hand like triangulating the structure so the forces now going through it long gedunally where I can go as hard as I want and it doesn't get stuck and I can do this and you know anytime you talk Marshall the fucking peanut gallery is going to come out from everywhere oh no you'll break your hand that way oh no you don't you know I mean like it is such a toxic subject anytime you know anytime you start talking about Marshall everybody's you know not everybody but you know the peanut gallery is going to chime in telling you how stupid it is all right so whatever to those people grow up all right think for yourself don't be weak structure dictates function and when you structurally arrange the bone structure I don't even need

45:36tension because it's going through the bones and I want that understanding that there are no straight lines in the body flexion extension that is a contrivance that is not true because it's all these spiraling movements so we break movement down to you have internal torsion and you have external torsion and combinations of the torsion the the triplanar model is very useful as a construct but it is counterproductive if oh this is a transverse exercise well guess what buddy you're in other two planes too right so don't tell me that's a transverse exercise because you still in the frontal and the sagittal plane right and sorry I'm coming off as a little bit hot I love it come back to the more passionate generous person it's just I like logic

46:37like like I insist upon it and I see such tremendous illogic in terms of the state of the world which is evil running things and then ego for the good guys right you don't go into the fitness industry if you're some evil guy you go in somewhere where you can make money right fitness is good guys with egos getting trapped in that crab you know bucket of crabs and then bad behavior making it toxic and it's like what's happening now because I figured out walking I mean it's seriously it's just like you the incredulous like oh god what do I get to be the best at understanding walking really like really and then step back and be like wait a minute that applies to everyone there's billions of people if we can teach people to transport and comport themselves with perfect balance just as good as a kangaroo just as good as whatever any other animal well now I have the

47:41ability to manage force with God's grace and comfort and he doesn't want you doing that God comes down walks in your shoes and you're all in pain blocky and clunky if I would gotta be pissed off and disappointed at you right but I would understand it is not your fault because you're a creature of your environment so what do we do we change the environment we use strong men not strong men who are puffing up strong men who can win the fight okay that's a strong man and it takes cunning to win a fight nobody's just gonna purely overpower and win every time all right y'all quick break to tell you about my brand new community the kingdom within it is launched on school right now if you join you get a free one week trial you'll have access to any videos we recorded in the past we call them days at school so first day of school second day of school all this stuff is available like I said we just launched the community is small which is

48:45absolutely great because if you join now you will have all your questions answered I mean there's just no competition so the community is about body it's about mine it's about connection it's about family nature psychedelics everything is on the table and right now I'm just walking people through some of the most important things I think in a key take away is from the books that I've read and the people I'd befriend and learned under guys like Paul check mark sissin and so many others and I've broken it down in a very easy to use practical steps on how to optimize the body and with that lay the foundations for a successful life for better productivity for better emotional intelligence with your kids with your wife with your girlfriend for better connection which is really what it's all about and then how do I connect to myself what does that internal relationship look like how do I connect to nature I get it now now you're going to have a farm most of those people listen to this don't that's fine how do I reconnect to nature how do I build out my eco field in my own little backyard if I got an apartment what are the plants that I bring in how do I respect nature and make communion with it and then how do I do that with God there are so many

49:49past that lead us up to mountain and I've spent you know the last 20 years of my life really researching digesting and breaking this down so I am so excited to be able to share this with you guys uh I love the back and forth it's something I just don't get on the podcast I don't get to hear from you guys and get to go back and forth with you and learn about what's going on in your lives I do in the community on school it's called the kingdom within and you can go click on it in the show notes and it'll take you right to the about page and like I said it we cover all the bases so it's really hard to kind of say like this is my niche this is what we're doing yeah optimization all the so that you like just join join us for one of the school days and see what it's like I guarantee you it will change your life for the better all right guys back to the podcast yeah love that love that beautifully stated um back back to the equation I really love the fact that you you know you not only outline your personal history and when these inventions and the why behind the inventions but um you reintegrate you know kind of the point behind them and so you know the bozu ball obviously

50:54with something that made balance training much safer right yeah that's just fundamental because the lower brain is afraid of losing balance the lower brain is afraid of you dying right now and that's why you can't hold your breath and kill yourself because the lower brain will say uh uh gone knock out the stupid guy and keep the you know keep the creature alive so the nervous system will do this if it senses the imbalance and if you can put yourself in a situation where you would have to do that if you perceive the threat but when you don't perceive a threat you can invest in loss and learn how to win right if I refuse to lose imagine going to jujitsu and refusing to lose first day you have a broken elbow yeah okay and that's what makes it such an amazing art to train is because okay pop pop striking is a lot harder to you know get proficient at because the consequences

51:55of going full out isn't dot dot right there's no telling me that balance of stable unstable I fell off a stability ball that's why I invented it to stabilize the unstable so that we can get underneath ourselves figure out how to fix balance from low down in the body without having to do all this stuff up here and that again is another foundation for true confidence true confidence is having both ends of the spectrum that's true confidence because if you only have one in a spectrum well you are not confident when the other one is required to win the situation absolutely yeah I love that you have the bozov for the balance and then obviously you know we talked on our first podcast about you know you bringing rope flow to the scene after watching buddy Lee saying let's take out you know the million jumps and what do I actually do here will actually what this is doing is this is allowing me to integrate these beautiful rotational movements

52:56that open up the spine and get things to integrate into the body and so those first two I think are paramount right and I love working with the rope I love working with the bozov my son who's 11 who started out with more balance than me you know is not you know in the traps I got his toes nice and wide I'm opening up his feet and things like that so I'm keeping that open but those two things that even just in the in the addition of those two items I've already seen a performance increase on the football field like night and day just from his ability to do basic slow squats on the bozov all find the shaky parts move through that breathe through that don't rush through it allow the body to integrate till there's no shaken no stickiness and then we get right on the rope when we start moving through and that those that's a one two combo the end of itself is an absolute fucking game changer it's been really cool it's be able to participate that personally but also to give that gift to my son I'd love you to talk about the propulse you know my son and I

53:58we I don't have cable TV plant medicine kind of took me out of mainstream television and I don't fault it for that but you know one one issue is that I really don't watch football anymore and I love the game with my son playing we finally started watching and I was like you know what there's tons of all the greats are still on YouTube with pull ups of stuff one of the first guys I showed him was Dion Sanders yeah yeah it was like this guy was fucking unreal I showed him Bo Jackson like there's another guy that played two sports that was unreal look at Dion and we're watching he's like that's my favorite player I was like prime time was the man he was so much fun to watch and so when you bring in Dion into the book I was like this is awesome right like this is so cool that you're talking about how he did things differently and how that led to the propulse I have a pair I haven't I haven't started working with him yet but I'd love for you to break down you know the mechanics is Dion why you got the propulse obviously you go to Kenya they're already well established as the best runners in the world and they become even better working with this

55:00technology yes so first of just a brief thing on the rope the rope is the rosetta stone of integrated human movement jumping a rope is syncopated hands down feet up very useful for changing your stance and your power hand right here but moving your mass from here to there roll flow is the rotation and it's the beat everything down everything up and before I invented the propulsors I had already had 10 million reps of rope under my belt and if you think about the ropes what is it it's down up down up down up down up especially like the dragon roll right so if I know how to pulse both arms down and I don't have restriction in the body well then I get a connective tissue recoil that jolts me effortlessly off the ground and May 1st 2010 I had been doing all this weird Chinese

56:03acupuncture stuff my goal was I want to move my hand as fast as I can with the least amount of and if I flick the fingers out like this and then I roll them and fold them up like that I can do that faster than any other way and I'm not getting tired I'm a very lazy guy willing to work extremely hard to have an own lazy I like that so my hand and I was doing these like you know wind and whip you know landing literally like on the hair my chinny chin getting range and stuff and then the triangles when I land I'm skinny but I'm bony and I will bite if necessary so I don't want to lose I don't want to lose so anyway my hand was very familiar with this sort of folding and triangulating from all those reps and then having the Chinese medical your meridian understanding it all makes sense from that perspective May 1st 2010 Shane Mosley clocks may weather in round 2 I jump off the sofa like this I think I had Diego Sanchez and Rob Garcia watching

57:09it with me yeah we were watching it together at my living room I go back like that and when they left at the night I went like that and I felt like holy shit and Tai Chi translates to supreme ultimate fist holy shit the harder I squeeze the more fluid I am with this I start shadow boxing on the door jam like you know okay this this is going to hit hard and then I punch down and I jolt myself up and that's when the on Sanders appeared you know crystal clear and my mind's eye this is how he does it oh my gosh this is how he does it now to teach other people who are so conditioned mentally and emotionally that the arm coming forward comes up and it doesn't jolt down but if you watch the good athletes what you can see is that they actually do pulse both down and anyone jogging is going to bounce their hands it's more efficient to bounce on connective

58:15tissue than it does to do this okay so it's just the conceptualization of it is wrong because people aren't underneath it there wasn't a lot of slow motion video way back they used to think a horse's feet you know and a big debate on whether of all four hooves are off the ground or not of course they're off the ground because the guy took pictures and you could prove it right so I know what I know in large part because I can corroborate on video that yes in fact they are doing what I am doing and I can feel why it's works and I can see that they're doing it too so how do you teach that to someone I go to the swap me a lot it's like a treasure hunt you never know what you're going to find and some of my inventions the propulsor came from a swap me event I'm walking around right and I see this table and there's four hand weights that weigh two pounds each and they're blue and they're shaped like a bosey ball how much are these oh they're 50

59:16cents each okay here's two dollars I will take these two now and I will return to pick up the other two and I start jolting around and swap me with two pound solid weights and you want to talk about boom boom the next day I was so sore and you can't go fast with that two pound weight because the inertia from the momentum takes a lot of energy to slow down and a lot of energy to bounce back up and very traumatic on the tissues it's too much the harder you go I had already invented the RMT club what makes the RMT club unique is that there is a partial fill of this steel shot that can move internally which basically zeros out the effects of inertia so when I go down faster than gravity the beads in here go to the top because the inertia of the beads is they want to be there

1:00:20object in mo in rest wants to stay at rest so when the cavity or the container comes these things go to the top and now I get to stop it against no resistance because the weight is here and it's going to take a millisecond to get the here but I'm already stopped and now it's your knee and a doctor at the office where you go pink pink and it's the effortless connective tissue recoil the facial jolt and now suddenly I had something that I could teach people with and I can train it because I'm getting a phone sorry to microphone pick that up loud but now I'm getting this jolt that's going to strengthen the tissues too so I'm getting a technique and I'm getting the tissues and if you're running uphill you will run faster carrying these using them properly than you will without them you'll get up the inclined faster

1:01:21and you will experience less effort because you've invested in down wisely with the timing of the forced delivery that gives you more systemic return than the effort you put in because gravity is on your side I don't want to punch up and fight gravity against it I'm going to punch here and I want to fight with gravity invest in that down with a perfect delivery and boom I get off the ground easy and so that is basically what the pulsars are and then when I wrote the patent for this right here these are handheld devices and because at rest the pulsars are down here I have to move it faster than gravity to overcome the inertia to create the effect of the jolt but in the patent I also wrote a spring okay a container and a weight that floats on the spring that jolt's it up

1:02:29because now I have the potential that is already there so it works at the speed of gravity and that is the what is in the weights that are in what's called my propulse power vest and this is zero learning curve I don't got to tell you a damn thing you just put it on every time you load you get this and the physics behind it and biomechanics the physiology is that when you stop and that stop is immediately followed by this micro delay other hit I reduce the peak enforce coming the peak impact force coming back into me and I shift that wave curve if we're going to graph it from a force plate I'm shifting it forward by locking off the top and getting a lower peak impact force while still managing more force in the same amount of time and so now

1:03:37and this is my hypothesis based on that physics and physiology is that removing the peak impact force or lowering it let's put it that way puts a training stimulus on the tendons that allows us to engage and bring into that equation more cross sectional tissue within the tendons Achilles being the big one there's an effect that Keith bar BAAR is essentially proven with these long hold isometrics that he uses to train and rehabilitate tendons is that a peak impact force or a large force through the tendon will create an effect called stress shielding the strongest parts of the tendon that can meet the demands at a moment will engage and shield the weaker tissue that your lower brain is afraid will get damaged if it had to incur the demands necessary to meet the moment

1:04:44and so if I lowered that peak now there is less stress shielding tissue that otherwise would be offline suddenly springs into action the nervous system has holy shit we're a better army with these extra troops I felt pretty confident there and you're developing it and we're getting a post activation potential for anyone listening that means you do something that creates this activation that makes the next thing you do better in fly tend sprints where there's no burden to accelerate you build up your speed perfect you run through the timing gates you do a body weight baseline establish how fast you can run whatever two three reps full rest now you put on the power vest and run reps just one or two probably two and then you take it off and you run faster than the baseline on the first and I'm talking every athlete thus far this is not some strict science study

1:05:51this is going to fucking practice and fucking running faster right now okay which is far more important than me to 19 soccer players you know did this or that for six weeks and now we know you're soon up saying yeah science can be weaponized because it's the ultimate trump card right pardon the pun you can make people do it this and do this and do this and do this if you're just saying science right and you can get science the science the science is so we don't get into that I will keep it I'll keep it exercise but you and I both know as men who care about our offspring and the future of humankind that that's really the motivating factor for what I do because I have no direct influence over any of the bullshit all I can do is control myself and teach people how to harness that inner confidence and integrity by simply moving with balance and that is why

1:06:55the subtitle of the book is your foundation for winning at life if I have more joy more confidence and less pain maybe I can be a more effective person and enjoy the human experience in a manner that makes me want to pass it on I find that the more prowess a martial guy has the kinder and cooler he is when he was 18 he was hot he wanted to get in fights he figured it out he's now 28 he's a complete badass he'll tap out 99.9 he doesn't use it because he knows that's been my experience is that the better you are in terms of handling yourself physically the cooler you are as a human being yeah no argument there I was just talking with son about that too you know the difference between the black belt and the white belt is in the personality you know one guy has tapped thousands of times

1:07:59he's he's expressed himself he's challenged himself he's humbled himself and he's also has a degree of mastery and that self mastery leads into everything not just you know from what you're doing but it into his being right is a different person because of that trajectory that's why that's why jujitsu is such a society healthy activity because when I grew up you knew your neighbors you didn't lock the front door now you will vert your gaze from your neighbor you don't want to know did it beat the doorbell rings are you expecting someone did you order dinner at the doorbell rang the doorbell ring the people are so much fear now and maybe that fear is justifiable but jujitsu class has a way of bringing it together in a conflict situation that is governed by the cooperative agreement that i'm going to tap and you're in a studio that's a good studio and some guy comes in he's like oh hey i'm new i'm on a spar all right put him with that guy teach him that that's not the attitude

1:09:06that we roll in ear and hope he comes back well adjusted or go grow up somewhere else i love that well we i know we could keep going uh when does your book come out where can people find you and um i think it's wekmetha.com for propoles rm t clubs all the good stuff the only thing you don't sell is rope flow but obviously you know you've spoken of that you've lifted that industry entirely so yeah well we do sell ropes but i promote everybody help this rope because a rope is a rope and i think you you know if you like it you probably want more than one and if you need to and you're sure on you know cash go pick up a rope anywhere right most ropes will do so on social i am the david wek um we have youtube that we're going to start really building and you know we have a bunch of stuff but you know it's really not a presence and so i'm now focused

1:10:11on not so much the exploration and discovery of what's next even though that continues i'm focused on taking what we got and putting it in front of people with a very clear uh you know executable okay here here's what it is here's how you use it here's what it does go but that's now the mission in my life is to capitalize on getting stuff out there to an audience that doesn't know and no cost no charge for rope flow head over foot any of that stuff right you want to pay for deeper education that's an option you want proprietary products to do things that nothing else does okay that's how i make my money but really if all anyone ever got from me is rope flow and there was no financial transaction i am happy as a plan because that is why i wrote the book it's going to be on amazon and it's going to launch on october 17th and if you read the book you'll know that one one seven

1:11:19my birthday longitude on the globe send here you go david and go i have been the bible so it just lined up that i had so many like spelling mistakes and repeated paragraphs that i didn't realize did it put a big delay on the publication which worked out perfectly so it's 10 17 117 we'll be to launch and what i'm going to do is i'm going to go out to the community to rope flow anyone who feels like they've benefited just bang a drum and tell everybody that it's going to be you know 199 buy it on day one between these hours so i can get best seller status on amazon and have them push it and if you don't like reading there'll be an audible one and if you don't like that just skip the chapter 12 and learn how to three weeks 21 days of fucking big cat cultivate it mindfully you set it and forget it and now you're a stronger human being who can pull with guys like you and me and the rest of them the good guys to make god proud that's right make god

1:12:25very happy with his creation that we weren't a bunch of weaklings who failed in the mission to make this place a better place for the kids i love it brother and i'm deeply in gratitude for all the work that you've done i'm so stoked that you sent me the coffee of the book because it really is awesome it just breaks down so much of this the why behind it and uh what a fucking rad life you've had you know upstowns and in between and everything's laid out it's it's a i love a fucking good story you know i love really do so um that was a fantastic book super easy to read i'm stoked i'm pumped to get the pro pulse vest going i'm gonna get my pulsars going today right after we jump off here with a little bit of rope flow so thank you for all the work that you've done the world and uh i'm stoked to be a part of it and get to hang with you later big shout out to Connor for bringing us together like one of the things that really means everything to me is when a light heavyweight UFC fighter

1:13:27who is division one on the cusp of NFL respects me right like that is such a bona fide that feeds my soul because that's all i want to do is help and credibility and integrity is everything to me and i know the cover of this book doesn't look like it you know oh he's a little sissy oh yeah but i assure you that i'm a good guy to have in the foxhole because dying standing is better than living on your knees every step stronger every step stronger thank you so much brother my absolute pleasure brother