5 Percent Nation, Masonry & Clock of Destiny- Nakiim Bey

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Nakeem Bay's journey from street corners to the United Nations reveals how ancient wisdom can transform not just individual lives but entire communities. Having joined the 5% Nation as a fifteen-year-old in 1981, Bay shares how memorizing 120 lessons in just six months laid the foundation for a lifetime of continuous learning and evolution.The conversation takes us through the powerful brotherhood of the 5% Nation during the 1980s—a time when "we was a bond that you could not break." Bay describes the tight-knit community where members studied together, cried together, and shared knowledge on street corners and in parks. This foundation of brotherhood, discipline, and intellectual rigor prepared him for his next evolution when he entered Masonry at just nineteen years old.Through Masonry, Bay gained practical knowledge of parliamentary procedure, protocol, and governance structures—skills that would later prove invaluable in diplomatic settings. His intellectual curiosity then led him to Moorish Science and the metaphysical teachings of the Clock of Destiny. Throughout his narrative, Bay emphasizes the importance of extracting valuable principles from each tradition while avoiding becoming dogmatically attached to any single system.Perhaps the most powerful insight Bay offers is his approach to knowledge acquisition: "Don't be like a cucumber and go in the vinegar and come out a pickle. Go in the vinegar and come out a cucumber." This vivid metaphor encapsulates his philosophy of maintaining core identity while exploring diverse intellectual traditions. Today, as a diplomatic strategist and human rights consultant trained by institutions including Oxford University and the United Nations, Bay demonstrates how ancient wisdom can be applied to contemporary global challenges.What makes this conversation truly enlightening is Bay's warning against stagnation: "Many people in all those schools stay on 6 and never go to 7 and beyond." His journey reminds us that knowledge is infinite—and that continuous growth requires both strong foundations and the courage to explore beyond established boundaries. The ultimate measure of wisdom isn't credentials or titles, but what you contribute: "We got to show and prove, not show and tell."

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