592. This Trans Debate Went Off the Rails - Dr. Helen Webberley vs Andrew Gold

In this explosive debate episode of Heretics, Andrew sits down with Dr. Helen Webberley, one of the most controversial figures in the transgender healthcare world, for a brutally honest, high-stakes conversation about sex, gender, science, identity, mental health, and the limits of self-identification. SPONSORS: Grab your free seat to the 2-Day AI Mastermind: https://link.outskill.com/GOLDNOV4  Start fresh at tryfum.com/products/zero-crisp-mint . Over 500,000 people have already made the switch — no nicotine, no vapor, no batteries. Just flavor, fidget, and a fresh start. Get up to 45% off Ekster with my code ANDREWGOLDHERETICS: https://partner.ekster.com/andrewgoldheretics  Plaud links! Official Website: Uk: https://bit.ly/3K7jDGm US: https://bit.ly/4a0tUie  Amazon: https://amzn.to/4hQVyAm Get an automatic 20% discount at checkout until December 1st. Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics  Start your MyHeritage journey now with a 14-day free trial using my link: https://bit.ly/AndrewGoldMyHeritage Find Dr. Helen Webberley here: https://x.com/HelenWebberley From the opening question — “Is a trans woman a woman?” — the discussion dives into the heart of today’s most polarising cultural conflict. Dr. Webberley defends her position with conviction, arguing that being transgender is not a mental illness, while Andrew challenges the logic behind gender identity, the distinction between sex and gender, and whether ideologies around self-identification can withstand scientific scrutiny. The debate covers everything from whether transgender people are “real,” to comparisons with anorexia, to whether someone could “identify as a table,” to the emotional and ethical concerns around treating children, puberty blockers, detransitioners, medical evidence, and why so many celebrities have trans-identifying kids. At moments deeply uncomfortable, at moments shockingly frank, this episode exposes the core disagreements shaping the modern gender debate — and does so without cutting corners. If you want to understand the arguments, the science, the accusations of pseudoscience, the worldview differences, and why this conversation is tearing society apart, this is the episode to watch. A fearless conversation at the edge of culture, medicine, and truth. Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com  Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates  Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok   Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics #GenderDebate #TransDiscussion #HereticsPodcast Chapters: 0:00 Dr. Helen Webberley Highlights 2:00 Who Is Dr. Helen Webberley? 4:00 The Birth of Gender GP 7:00 Why Dr. Webberly Speaks To The Other Side 8:00 What Is A Woman? 10:50 Why Can’t We Just Say Effeminate Man? 13:00 Why Can’t Andrew Identify As A Table? 15:30 Mental Illness? 18:00 Isn’t This Out-Dated And Sexist? 21:00 Huge Decisions Based On ‘We Don’t Know’ 23:45 The Anorexia Comparison 26:00 Is This A Mental Illness? 27:30 The Gay Argument 30:00 Are Trans Women Actually Women? 33:00 Sexual Preferences… 36:00 Pseudoscience 39:00 ‘Countless’ Detransitioners, Ritchie Herron & Blaire White 45:00 What Is A Woman (Again) 48:00 Religion vs Gender 50:30 Mental Illness (Again again) 53:00 How Can An 11 Year Old Know! 55:30 Munchhausen Parents Discussion & Stella O’Malley 57:00 No Evidence In Favour of Puberty Blockers? 1:00:00 Why Do So Many Celebs Have Trans Kids? 1:03:00 Dr. Webberly Convicted For This 1:05:00 Does She Have ANY Doubt? 1:07:00 Are Men Scary? 1:12:20 A Heretic Dr. Webberly Admires Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices