632: Science Behind Time Storms | Time Isn't What You Think It Is

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On April 25, 1977, Corporal Armando Valdez was guarding a campfire in the Chilean mountains.

Just before dawn, he saw a glowing purple mist.

Valdez walked into the mist and vanished.

15 minutes later, he stumbled back into camp.

He was shaking.

He collapsed.

His men checked him over.

He seemed fine.

Except for one detail.

When Valdez left, he was clean-shaven.

When he returned, he had a short beard.

And his watch had jumped ahead to April 30.

He was gone for 15 minutes, but he lived for five days.

And Valdez's story isn't unique.

This phenomenon has appeared all over the world for centuries.

Different cultures call them different names.

We know them as time-storps.

The Valdez case follows a pattern that is repeated around the world for hundreds of years.

In 1947, a British military convoy was driving through the mountains of Nepal.

This was dangerous territory.

Bandits were everywhere.

The group included local soldiers of British colonel and his wife Donna.

Donna was sitting in the back of a truck when the temperature dropped instantly.

She said it felt like someone flung open the door to a glacier.

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Donna looked up.

A reddish cloud was floating just above the ground, about the size of a two-story house,

and it was moving toward them.

The local villagers took one look and ran.

They called it a vision, and they knew the only way to survive was to hide.

The colonel ran toward the cloud to investigate.

He got about 20 feet before he collapsed.

It looked like he hit an invisible wall.

Then the red cloud got brighter.

It circled the truck where Donna was sitting.

She felt electricity in the air.

Her skin tingled.

Her hair stood up.

A low-voltage current ran through her body.

Then the world went silent.

No wind, no birds, no engine noise.

The Donna saw one final image.

Soldiers froze and mid-stried.

Her husband motionless on the ground.

Then everything went dark.

When she opened her eyes, the cloud was gone, and hours had passed.

For Donna, it had just been seconds.

The convoy regrouped.

Everyone had a red rash on their exposed skin,

like a severe sunburn.

Soldiers were vomiting.

The colonel was dizzy and couldn't walk.

Eleven witnesses.

Physical symptoms consistent with radiation exposure.

And a gap in time, nobody could explain.

British researcher Jenny Randall spent decades collecting cases that shared the same symptoms.

First, the silence.

All natural sound stops.

No crickets.

No traffic.

Just dead air.

Then the tingling.

Like static electricity before a lightning strike.

Then the mist.

Sometimes red, sometimes green or white.

But it always glows.

Then time breaks.

Hours vanish.

People find themselves in places they can't explain.

Sometimes hundreds of miles away.

And after the physical toll.

Nausea, rashes, headaches, disorientation.

Medical exams documented burns and rashes

that appeared during these episodes.

Electronics die.

Car engines stall.

Radios only play static.

Watches stop.

Or leap forward.

Cell phones lose signal.

And then there's the isolation.

Even people surrounded by crowds.

Report feeling utterly alone.

The rest of humanity fades away.

Like they've stepped into a pocket universe.

Randall's calls this.

The Oz factor.

Like Dorothy ripped out of Kansas.

Suddenly you're somewhere else.

A different place.

And a different time.

Randall's had plenty of witnesses who lost time.

Minutes, hours.

Sometimes days.

But she did find one case

where a pilot didn't lose time.

He outranted.

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Bruce Gernan was an experienced pilot.

He'd flown the fruit dozens of times.

His destination was Palm Beach, Florida.

The weather was clear.

The flight is exactly 75 minutes.

Halfway to Florida,

Gernan saw a cloud formation ahead.

A lenticular cloud.

A testicular cloud.

They make a cream for that.

Lenticular cloud.

That's the one that looks kind of like a flying saucer.

And it makes no sense.

But this cloud was massive.

And it was growing.

Gernan tried to climb over it.

The cloud rose with him.

He banged to go around it and expanded to block his path.

The cloud wrapped around the plane.

A swirling tunnel of gray mist

with bright flashes of light.

His compass started spinning.

His navigational instruments failed.

The artificial horizon began to roll.

Gernan looked ahead.

A small patch of blue sky at the end of the tunnel

is only way out.

He pushed the throttle forward.

The tunnel started to close.

The 10 mile gap shrank to one mile.

Then a half mile.

Then smaller and smaller.

The wings scraped the edges of the cloud.

He shot through the gap just as it collapsed behind him.

He expected to see the ocean, but he didn't.

Just gray haze.

No horizon, no sea, no sky.

Just gray in every direction.

His instruments were dead.

He grabbed the radio and called Miami Air Traffic Control.

They couldn't find him on radar.

No aircraft appeared anywhere between Miami,

Bimini and Andrews.

He was a ghost.

Then the radio crackled.

Miami picked him up.

The controller said,

I have a target directly over Miami Beach.

But that was impossible.

Miami Beach was 250 miles from where he entered the cloud.

Top speed of a beach craft bonanza is 200 miles per hour.

That flight takes 75 minutes minimum.

Gernan checked his watch.

He'd been in the air for 34 minutes.

Then the fog dissolved.

And Miami Beach was right below him.

He landed upon beach shortly after.

Total flight time, 37 minutes.

He saved nearly half an hour.

Gernan spent the rest of his life researching that day.

He wrote two books and documented over 75 similar encounters

in the same area.

We call this area the Bermuda Triangle.

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Pilots and sailors have reported the same luminous fog for decades.

The same instrument failures.

Some traveled in possible distances and impossible times.

Someone into the storm and never came out.

Bruce Gernan entered the storm and moved faster than physics allows.

The next witness was a Royal Air Force Commander.

He also survived the storm.

But while he was in it, he didn't just move fast.

He saw the future.

In 1935, Wing Commander Victor Goddard flew his biplane over an abandoned airfield called Drem.

He knew the place.

Hangar is falling apart.

Tarmac cracked in full of weeds.

Cow's grazing on the runway.

A few days later, he flew back along the same route

when the weather turned and a storm hit.

But this wasn't a normal storm.

The clouds weren't gray or white.

They were glowing yellow.

His biplane was tossed around like a toy.

Rain hammered the open cockpit.

The plane dropped toward the ground and gottered brace for a crash.

Then, in an instant, the storm vanished.

The rain stopped.

The sky turned bright and sunny.

Goddard looked down.

He was directly over-drem airfield.

But it wasn't abandoned anymore.

The hangars were repaired.

Mechanics and blue overalls were working on the Tarmac.

And four aircraft sat on their own way.

Each pinned bright yellow.

One of them was a monoplane.

A single wing design Goddard had never seen before.

None of this made sense.

In 1935, RAF Mechanics wore brown overalls.

RAF training planes were unpainted aluminum.

Monoplanes hadn't entered the fleet.

Seconds later, the storms slammed back.

He fought through it and landed at endover.

He reported what he saw, but nobody believed him.

Four years later, in 1939,

the RAF reopened Drem before World War II.

They painted their training aircraft yellow.

They introduced a new monoplane trainer called the Miles Magister.

And they changed the mechanic uniforms from brown to blue.

Every detail Goddard saw in 1935 became reality in 1939.

This is a wing commander, not a crackpot,

but a decorated officer in the Royal Air Force.

He looked through a gap in a storm and saw four years into the future.

He wrote about it in his book,

Flight Towards Reality.

Now most witnesses lose time.

Goddard gained it.

But if you can slip into the future,

and you also slip into the past.

Well, according to two families in France,

you can.

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October 1979

The Simpson and Gisby families were driving through France

heading for a vacation in Spain.

They were looking for a place to sleep near Montelmar.

As they drove down a rural road, the odds factor hit.

The car engine faded, the traffic vanished.

They drove an eerie silence until they saw an old-looking hotel.

They pulled in.

The road wasn't paved.

It was cobblestone.

Inside there were no phones, no elevators.

The windows had wooden shutters, but no glass.

The staff wore uniforms that looked like they were out of an old movie.

A policeman walked by wearing a heavy cape at hat from the First World War.

They had dinner, took photos in the dining room, and stayed the night.

The next morning, the bill for four adults and children,

including dinner and breakfast, was 19 francs,

less than a cup of coffee in 1979.

Mr. Simpson asked the policeman for directions to the highway.

The officer looked confused, he'd never heard of highway.

They left, got back on the main road,

and the sounds of the world returned.

Two weeks later, on their way home,

they decided to stop at the hotel again.

Cheap, good food, why not?

They drove down the same road, found the same turn-off.

But the hotel wasn't there.

No cobblestone road, no old building, just a grove trees.

And when they developed their film,

the photos of the families in the dining room didn't exist.

The negatives were blank.

When they drove down that road,

they ended up 70 years in the past.

But Randall's found something worse than blank film.

These storms leave physical scars.

In 1977, teenager Mark Henshaw was riding his motorcycle

near Barnard Castle in England.

Suddenly, a purple glow swallowed it.

His motor died, but he kept rolling.

Then he was pulled uphill, about 300 feet against gravity.

When the glow vanished, Henshaw's leather jacket was smoking.

He wore a smoking jacket like heath.

Did he also have a captain's hat

and a harem of hands fighting over his inheritance?

Not a smoking jacket.

A leather jacket that was soaked a minute earlier.

The water evaporated instantly from intense heat.

The metal on his bike was so hot that he got third-degree burns.

And another one, in 1992 in Hungary,

a woman driving saw a white light rushed toward her windshield.

Her engine and lights died.

She woke up hours later in a snowy field.

No tire tracks led to the car.

There was no road nearby.

Doctors found burn marks on her body

consistent with electrical discharge.

And when they checked the car,

the door handle had been fused to the body by heat.

Then there's the case of Steve and Kansas.

Steve was on a road trip with friends in 1979.

They pulled over at a construction site so he can use a porta-potty.

When he went in, the sounds of his friends disappeared.

The air went silent.

He felt a wave of dizziness.

Him locked the door, stepped out,

and fell face-first into the dirt.

The construction site was gone.

The porta-potty was gone.

His friends were gone.

He was standing in an empty field.

He walked to the nearest road, flagged out a car,

and found out he was 600 miles from where he started.

He teleported 600 miles in a porta-potty.

Now it's like a tautist.

It was a porta-potty.

Now it was so a tautist.

Get it.

Randalls realized that if you step back and look at the big picture,

these stories sound familiar.

UFOs, alien abductions, ghosts, missing time.

They aren't different mysteries.

They're all connected, and they're all time-storps.

Jenny Randalls looked at her 300 cases.

Then she looked at the entire history of paranormal research.

UFO sightings, alien abductions, ghost encounters,

near-death experiences, missing time, poltergeist activity.

She made an argument that nobody considered.

They were all the same thing.

Betty and Barney Hill, maybe the most famous alien abduction case in history.

In 1961, they drove through the white mountains of New Hampshire.

They saw a strange light.

They felt disoriented.

They arrived home two hours late with no memory of what happened.

Now strip away the UFO narrative and look at the raw facts.

A couple driving a night encountered a light.

Disorientation, missing time, amnesia.

Their car's instruments malfunctioned.

They later recalled the experience as a vivid dream-like episode.

That's a time storm.

But what about the aliens?

The entities people see.

While Randalls found a clue, people who walked into these storms

offer a port a specific sensation right before the time shift.

A pressure.

Witnesses describe a heavy pressure from above.

Not like wind, like a weight pressing down on them.

And the pressure feels alive.

One witness described it as an intense feeling of being watched,

like an invader.

A consciousness pressing against them.

So the storm isn't just weather,

or at least our brain doesn't interpret it as weather.

Canadian neuroscientist Michael Persinger

built a device nicknamed the God Helmet to test this.

He aimed weak electromagnetic fields at the temporal lobe.

Test subjects reported exactly what time storm witnesses described.

The sense of a presence, time distortion,

feelings of floating out of body experiences,

vivid hallucinations of beings.

Yeah, I feel like this has to even blow up his gummies.

If you walk into a strong electromagnetic field by a time storm,

your brain might interpret that energy as a person,

or a ghost, or an alien.

Jacques Fele came to the same conclusion from a completely different direction.

He argued that UFO encounters weren't extraterrestrial.

There were signs of some other phenomenon,

something that interacted with human consciousness

and operated by rules we didn't understand.

Three researchers, three countries,

completely different methods, but the same conclusion.

The phenomenon is real.

The popular interpretation is wrong.

If electromagnetic fields could produce these experiences in a lab,

the natural electromagnetic events,

time storms, could produce them in the wild.

So time isn't as stable as we believe,

and now we have the science to prove it.

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This isn't folklore, it's physics.

The laws of the universe actually support

the existence of time storms.

Einstein's theory of relativity proved that time is not constant,

it's flexible.

Time passes differently depending on speed and gravity,

and astronaut traveling near light speed

ages slower than people on Earth.

GPS satellites experience time faster than we do on the ground.

Engineers adjust the satellite clocks every day to adjust for this.

At the speed of light, time stops completely.

From the perspective of a photon,

the moment it's created and the moment it's destroyed

happen at the same instant.

A photon can travel across the universe for billions of years,

but for the photon, zero time has passed.

Time storms are electromagnetic phenomena,

but so is light.

Randalls believes these storms are pockets where the rules

of light speed physics take over,

bubbles of electromagnetic dominance.

Inside the bubble, local time could be frozen.

Minutes outside could equal days inside,

or days outside could equal seconds inside.

But there's something else going on here,

something you've probably felt yourself.

You walk into a room and freeze.

You know this room.

You know this moment.

You know exactly what someone is about to say before they say it.

Deja vu.

Scientists tell us it's a brain glitch,

a misfire between short-term and long-term memory.

But what if it's not?

What if Deja vu is a micro-time storm,

a momentary slip where your consciousness brushes against the moment you've already lived?

This ties into the block universe theory.

Many physicists believe the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously.

Imagine a love of bread.

The past is the heel at one end.

The future is the heel at the other.

We're just a slice in the middle.

But the whole loaf exists at once.

Every moment that has ever happened,

or will ever happen is already there.

Ah, so the universe is a love of bread?

It's a metaphor.

A little kind of bread.

Because if it's a king's Hawaiian role, I'm interested.

If it's that government subsidized white bread, yeah, I don't trust it.

We experience time as flowing.

But that's a limitation of our consciousness.

Our mind moves to the block universe

like a cursor scanning a document.

A time storm could knock that cursor loose.

An intense electromagnetic anomaly could disconnect the person from their normal timeline.

They might skip forward, loop backward,

experience hours while the world experiences seconds.

Then there's the many worlds interpretation.

Science fiction author Phil Kedig was obsessed with this.

He believed time wasn't real.

He believed what we experienced as time

is actually us moving through different versions of reality.

He called it orthogonal time.

He believed parallel timelines ran right next to ours,

infinite versions of Earth,

infinite versions of you,

and sometimes those timelines bleed together.

Now if many worlds is true,

a time storm isn't a glitch at a clock.

It's a collision between universes.

So when Goddard saw the airfield of the future,

he wasn't looking forward in time.

He was looking sideways into a parallel world

where the war had already started.

When the family in France found the hotel,

they weren't in the past.

They were in a reality where that hotel never closed.

The framework for travel between worlds exists.

These aren't just storms, they're doorways.

And some people have accidentally learned to walk through.

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The Valdez case, the Nepal Convoy, the electronic fog,

the hotel in France, great stories.

But are they true?

Well, let's start with the skeptics.

The biggest problem with the time-storm theory is the lack of heart data.

We have stories, but we don't have a single recording.

No video of a teleporting car, no footage of a glowing cloud.

In the age of smartphones and dash cams, you'd think we'd call one by now.

Then there's the brain.

Temporal lobe epilepsy explains almost every symptom of the osfactor,

the silence, the feeling of a presence, the time distortion,

the vivid hallucinations.

Pursing approved a lab that you can induce these feelings with magnets.

If you're driving through a magnetic field caused by tectonic stress,

your brain might glitch.

You might feel like you lost an hour.

You might hallucinate a glowing cloud.

The geology where Valdes disappeared creates electromagnetic anomalies,

which could explain his experience.

The Gernan case also has a logical explanation.

The jet stream.

Catch a hundred-mile-an-hour tailwind,

and you're going to get the Florida early.

If you're stressed and flying through clouds,

your perception of time is unreliable.

Thirty-four minutes can feel like 70.

In the Goddard case, he wrote that book in 1975.

That's 40 years after the event.

Memory is tricky.

He saw a storm in 1935.

He saw the air-filled renovations in 1939.

Over 40 years,

his brain might have merged those two memories into one great story.

So, case closed?

It's all in our imagination?

Well, not so fast.

hallucinations don't leave physical traces.

In the Nepal case, 11 people saw the same cloud

and got the same radiation burns.

Mass hallucinations don't cause sunburns.

In the hungry case,

a woman's car door was fused shut.

These are documented.

Mark Henshaw's leather jacket was smoking.

A brain glitch doesn't melt metal or leather.

And then there's Valdez.

Valdez left with a clean face.

He came back 15 minutes later with a short beard.

Now, you can hallucinate a purple light and even a time jump.

But you can't grow five days where the stubble in 15 minutes.

Well, yeah, tear it to my ex-myster legs.

Anyway, that's biological evidence,

documented by his own men.

And if Phil K. Dick was right about orthogonal time,

then hallucination is the wrong word.

He spent his life trying to warn us

that our world wasn't solid,

that other worlds,

other timelines, press against us.

The glitch isn't in our brains.

The glitch isn't the barrier between worlds.

I have a strong sense there is a lot more to reality

and I bet you do too.

PKD believe that what we call reality

is just a collective illusion that keeps us from seeing the chaos

underneath.

But every once in a while,

the illusion breaks,

the signal drops,

and the storm rolls in.

And for just a few seconds,

you can see the truth.

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I gotta keep that secret close to your gills, eh?

Those are the plugs,

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Be kind,

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Oh, oh, oh, yeah.

I play Bolivia's an area 51.

A secret code inside the Bible said I was.

I love my UFOs,

and the paranormal bones,

as well as mirrors it.

So I'm saying it like I should.

But then another conspiracy theory

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my friends.

And it never ends.

No, it never ends.

I feel the crack out,

and I got stuck inside my old home.

With them chaos truck,

I've been only two hours.

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On a film set,

I wore the shadow people,

there.

The rust-well-hailings just fall,

the smiling man,

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next week,

day, day, two,

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Oh, I ever wanted what you did to the truth,

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Mysterious number of stations,

planets are phoned to,

rocket stargate,

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In a simulation,

who do you worry about?

The black night set a light,

it told me so,

I can't believe,

I'm cancer with the fishy,

and the fish are Thursday,

next week,

day, day, two,

and when I'm happy,

I'll be off to the night.

Oh, I ever wanted what you did to the truth,

so the world falls on your feet,

and I'll be off to the night.

And the fish are Thursday,

next week,

day, day, two,

and when I laugh,

I'll be off to the night.

I'll be off to the night.

Oh, I ever wanted what you did to the truth,

so the world falls on your feet,

oh, I ever wanted what you did to the truth,

so the world falls on your feet,

and I'll be off to the night.

You're gonna love to death,

you're gonna love to dance,

like a dance ball,

because she is a camel,

we can't love the dance,

With the feeling is right on my way with him, darling

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