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72 Plus, the ESL podcast with Aaron Paul and Joby McEnough.

Hello everybody, welcome along to 72 Plus,

the ESL podcast from five live sport as ever.

It is Joby McEnough who's alongside me.

An FA Cup still, joint top score at Lyle Taylor.

Also with us, a joint with Liam Atkinson of Long Ridge Town on 8

goals, and you've got your suit ready for the FA Cup final,

potentially, you know, if you've got to go and walk the match ball out.

No, I'm going in full kit, like John Terry.

I mean, the next active player is a Galbra Martinelli

in Chelsea's Pedro Aneto on four goals.

So they've got to catch up with you and Liam.

How does it work though?

Would you guys share the duty?

To be completely honest with you,

if there was a case of walking the match ball out,

I would, and my counterpart on 8 goals wanted to do it,

I would more than happy pass that on.

Or worst case, I'd like that to kind of be a ball boy or ball girl's job,

because I think it's something that they would remember for the rest of their lives,

whereas with the utmost respect, I've had my career,

I'm not really that interested in walking a ball onto the pitch.

So I'd like to donate that worst case to a ball boy or ball girl.

No, no, no, no, no.

He said, come on, because joby would do it in a heartbeat.

Joby would do it.

In the heartbeat, he'd be there,

suited, booted the lock.

He'd have the old brillo pads sorted out, he'd be perfect.

You know what, as what we need to do,

because I'm not having the sharing stuff,

I think what we need to maybe we need to lobby the FA

and a reckon we should organise a penalty shootout

or like a sudden death.

If they're both on 8, by the time we get to the final,

in the warm-up before the game,

Lyle and Liam McHinton shoot out to see who gets the honor, like what he said.

Look, I'm happy to do that, but I would still like to donate that to a young boy or young

girl whose dream it would be to walk out of Wembley. I've been fortunate enough to play

in Scoric Wembley. I've had a very good career, I can't complain. I just think they would

be a young person out there who's dream it would be to lead the two teams out in the FA Cup

final. I think it would be an honor for them to do that. I think it's the right thing to do.

How are the legs Lyle? It's your birthday soon as well. How are the legs 36 years young in a

couple of weeks time after a trip to Delky Mondra's last night? The legs are sore.

Astro turf is never fun to play on, but the old boy can still do it. A little left foot volley

from the edge of the box into the bottom bin yesterday. So 23 for the season now. So I can't

complain. I love the way you call it Astro turf Lyle. Is that Astro turf?

Are we on 7G now or something? No, no, no, none of that nonsense.

Is it not a good quality one? No, it was there. There was plenty of shredded tyres on that one.

Do you remember the old school, like actual school ones, which are just like carpets?

Sand. Oh no, we're going back even further. Or the sand ones were the worst.

Those were the days. Gentlemen, I'll tell you what we need to talk about.

The UA for Champions League, which is something we don't do on 72 plus obviously being an EFL

pub, but this is more of a football culture kind of thing. I want to get your thoughts on the

Spurs goalkeeper, Antonin Kinski, brought in after Giamma Vakaria was dropped.

Fit within 15 minutes, he shipped three goals, two of them direct errors.

Kinski was replaced in the 17th minute. Former Tottenham goalkeeper Paul Robinson says

Ego Tudor's decision was selfish and it'll be so destroying for Kinski.

Peter Schmeichel says the substitution has destroyed Kinski's career. Where are you on this?

I was watching it and genuinely I don't think Ego Tudor had any other decision to make at that

point. He was gone, Kinski. You know, we've all been on a pitch with players where they've made

a mistake and they're just not going to recover. But for goalkeeper in particular, for a young

keeper in that environment, listen, he had to bring him off. It was an absolute nightmare.

If he had stayed on, I'm thinking 678. I don't think he would have been able to recover.

There was no confidence from the rest of defenders. It was a hard watch as it really was

difficult watch to see, you know, a professional footballer in such a bad way.

And for the managers not even acknowledging walking off is where I thought he got it all wrong.

Not the actual decision to take him off, but the manner in which he didn't even greet him

and just let him walk off. It was a real horrible thing to have to witness. I've got to say.

I tend to agree, but at the same time, Mickey van de Ven fell flat on his backside as well.

He didn't get dragged off. And let's be completely honest, he has been absolutely stinking in the

last however many months. I watch a content creator, expression zoos him. And his videos of him

crashing out every single time, top and play are incredible. But then ultimately, you as a manager,

that's your player. Whether you're in a job in a temporary form or you're in a job permanently,

you have to look after your player and he's not done that. And I think that's despicable to be

completely honest. Toby, you are like, you know, you are always a senior player even when you're

a 21. But how do you pick up, Anthony Kintiki? I mean, you saw Jada Palinio running after him

down the tunnel. How do you do that? Well, that's the thing that did harm me, the player's reaction.

You know, Vicario, as he came off, Romero, like you say, Palinio, there were players that went

into the dressing room with him. So is that immediate sort of reaction? It's nothing that anyone's

going to say is going to make one or a difference to him last night. It's about where he goes from

that point and, you know, going back to the last point. It's a fair one, you know, with Andeven

slipping. But watching it, there was just no way he was going to recover. There just wasn't,

you know, he was gone. There was, you know, he had to be brought off. So again, I think for the

players now, their job is to try and support him as best they can. I definitely don't think it's

a career killer. I think, you know, there's been so much said about that yesterday. He will come back.

He's shown glimpses and actually goes back to probably the original decision. I think if you

are to a lot of spurs fans, do we want to see a change at some point with the goalkeeping situation?

Because Vicario has been really poor. They would probably have said, yes, whether that was the

right game, one of that magnitude, that pressure, you know what going to Affiliate Accommodrid is all

about. That is going to be the big question. So listen, no doubt about it. It was a massive decision.

It's backfired horrendously on Igor Trudeau when he had so much pressure already. I'm not quite

sure he survives this. Just while we're on the Champions League chat, did you see a Barcelona fan

turned up at the wrong St. James's Park on Tuesday night? You made the journey from London to

Devon turned up at the turn styles of Exeter City in League one. Exeter say it was only when he

showed his ticket to staff that he realized his mistake. Exeter did sort him out of ticket

for their game against Lincoln, though, which is a nice touch. He's seen the big bank instead of

the Gallagher end. Yeah, on the media, you're pulling up that this is not where I need to be,

don't you? It's a special plan. What was the score in the Exeter, Lincoln? One new away win.

Oh, Jesus. There's nothing wrong with that. Imagine them saying, by the way, like, you're not

going to make the other game. So here's a bit of League one. I mean, Lincoln are great. Don't get

me wrong, but have a bit of League one football instead of the Champions League. A bit ahead of

a story to tell, though, wouldn't it? To tell the grandkids. Yeah. I literally ended up the

wrong end of England. Okay. I know. But do you go back home and lie to your mates and go,

yeah, St. James's Park was great. Newcastle, fast learner, unbelievable. Would you go and actually

tell them the truth and say, I am an absolute doughnut and I went to the wrong St. James's Park.

It's got to be number two there. You just have to embrace it and have a laugh, do you know what I mean?

I say we're all getting wrong, though. It's since we've got rid of actually old school A to Z's

as, you know, all this. I love sticking your phone and all that modern technology. No,

plot it out. I'm like, Lyle, back in the day, hold A to Z, where I need to get to

look at it on the map, flip over the pages, mid-journey, you're kind of like, right, I'm skipping

from page 24 to 76 here, find the next player and then you get to where you need to get to. So, yeah,

absolute nightmare for the user. Anyway, into the championship, the top two,

Coventry and Middlesbrough are both in action on Wednesday night. Coventry is still

with a five-point lead at the summit, but chasing down the automatics. Mill will now just a point

off second after Tuesday nights win over Derby County. Here's the Lions boss Alex now.

We've already beat a points toll for the last season. So, yeah, the lads have done traffic.

And now just a point of those top two spots I know Middlesbrough are playing tomorrow,

but do you feel like the pressure's on them now to slip up now that you've put a bit on them?

I don't really think about Middlesbrough, I don't think about pressure. I just think we've

got games coming off minute train when them. So, yeah, it'll be, but it'll be.

I've interviewed Alex now multiple times a season. If you ask him any question to do with promotion

playoffs, whatever, he will bat it away. Mate like it is the T20 World Cup. He's not interested

in one bit. And that's the way he operates, but crucially here, Joeby, this is a man who knows how

to get out the division out the sunroof. Yeah, and I have been one of those that have felt maybe

they're not quite going to be strong enough to keep that challenge up for a top two every single

week. They go out there and shove that back down my throat. So, you know, big fair play to

to Millwall. I think, you know, I know you're at the game last night. That was what I call a proper

Millwall, you know, don't get out, not at their best, but find a way. I mean, our home form this

year has been fantastic. Listen, as it's their way because where they are on the table, but they've

made the den a real tough place again for teams to go. And they are the types of wins that you need

to have, if you are going to have any chance of getting automatic promotion. So, yeah, I mean,

what an unbelievable, unbelievable season that they are having. I mean, Laura called it a lot

earlier in this season. I think when he said, oh, would it be amazing to see Millwall in the

Premier League? So, either way, they're giving themselves a massive chance of doing that, aren't they?

I think that was a year ago. And I got landed on that. It was a year ago, Joeby. That's how quick

time goes. No, I got all sorts of stick from Charlton fans over that. And to be honest, you didn't

get enough in the first place. Well, you didn't get any. There you go. But at the end of the day,

I think a Millwall in the Premier League upsets the apple cart. And I think they would do things

differently to how things are done in the Premier League. They probably be gutted because they won't

have a game to play against Tottenham. But, you know, I think a Millwall in the Premier League would,

it would flip the script. The same way a Coventry would. The same way a Middles were finally

back in the Premier League would. So, I think it's interesting that we don't have the same teams going

up and down, you're Norwiches, you West Broms, you're Leeds, Leeds were full of them. They were

yo-yo clubs for a long time. I think it's nice that we've got someone different. They've

built themselves one, you know, heck of a squad there at the den. And adding someone of the quality

of Barry Bannon, I mean, the first 20 minutes were literally him just spraying the ball left,

right, and centre. And they look excellent. But they've done some really, really smart business,

making profits on the likes of Zian Fleming, Jaffa Tanganga as well, Adama Maku. And I'll tell you

what, the one that everyone's looking at is Femi Aziz. He's another player. They will turn a mega

profit on. Joby, they've evolved as a football club. And I use that word a lot, evolution of

football clubs because it feels like, you know, sometimes you need to convert from analog to digital

mill very much analog under John Berylson. And they did things his way. James has obviously come in,

not in the circumstances that we would have liked to have seen it happen. Obviously losing

John Berylson was horrific for the football club. But James has come in. He wants to fulfill his

father's dream of seeing that football club in the Premier League. And they're giving it a good

go. They look like they've got a real good structure behind the scenes as well.

Yeah, I think this has been more evolution than revolution. They tried to probably go a little

bit too quick under Joe Edwards, I think, previously. And it didn't work. So again, I think

what Alex Nils done and what he always does, he gets an identity. He creates a team that is

difficult to beat, that does work hard, that buys into his principles. And like you say, they've

almost just started adding those layers like a Barry Bannon, that quality that he's unbelievable.

You know, they're strengthen the squad. I think that shows with last night when you look at

some of the players that were missing again, which has had to cope with it at times this season.

And it hasn't had a massive impact on results, which I think is gone by it has. So all things

pointing towards a really positive crack at the end of this season, what they've given them,

they're in the playoffs now, right? We all know that. So what they can do is really go out and

attack games and really go out with that. That's sort of worry of looking over their shoulder

of, are we going to scrape in this season? And that makes them a really, really dangerous team,

because I don't think they've got the same pressure, maybe as those teams that have been up there,

you know, all season, or an Ipswich for example, who we know from a financial perspective,

have to get back. Do you know what I think they're supporting pressure? Because he has been

backed like no middle manager in the history of the football club has been backed. No one.

Bear in mind, up until I think around 2017, 2018, their transfer record was from 1989,

Paul Goddard for like a million pounds. They didn't spend more than a million pounds on the

player up until 2017 or 18. He has been backed. And whether it's him making the signings or him turning

around to the board, then I want X, Y and Z, you know, they've spent the money. They've put those

tools in place for him to have potential success. I think this is where we're seeing an example,

where you've given a manager when he first comes in an opportunity, which he took and he did really

well over squad. But now you're seeing the owner saying, right, actually, this is the guy that I

might trust a little bit more because of what he's already done. And this is the season. Lars

already mentioned it and it's fantastic to see commentary Middlesbrough, Millwall, you know, clubs that

haven't had those parachute payments at the top end of the championship. It's so wide open

because of the way, you know, Southampton started the season and you know, Shepherd United haven't

been where we probably expected them to be this year. It's switched to a long time. So this is

the season. And I'm going to say gamble and I don't mean it recklessly, but maybe to say, right,

what is it going to take to go that extra little step this season? Within that, you still got to

go and get the right person now. And I think that's where between the owner, Alex Neil, his experience,

they've most certainly done that, which has given them a fantastic chance.

I think the Premier League's very much ready for Millwall football club as Lyle mentioned.

Mill will now have a 14 point buffer down to seventh. It switched meanwhile.

Have lost a bit of ground in the last week or one or drill with less to follow up with a

thrill on a cold wet Tuesday night in Stoke. The tractor boys had to come from Tunor down to

lead three, two, but conceded to level up from the penalty spot in the sixth minute of stoppage

time. Here's their boss, Kieran McKenna. I think it's soft. It's really cruel because it's

here, Aki, and that we should be talking about a brilliant comeback victory. And you know,

through a little bit of composure and gear management from us and for me, a really soft decision,

you know, we have a completely different feeling. Just getting to that stage of the season,

we can't afford to let the point slip away, can you? Yeah, we know that, but I think it's all

season. It's not necessarily about this stage of the season. We know we've got 10 games left,

and we're going to have to win a lot. I think we certainly have the feeling and we know ourselves

that we've let point slip over the course of the season, and our points total should be high

for how we've been in the games generally, should be higher. But you can only affect the next one,

and I think the group will have a show in steps forward, and even tonight to be tunneled down

away from home, come back to 3-2 with a performance like that for, you know, a group to have an

added comeback victory at, and that's been fairly so something that's been sort of said about the

group. It's about all of us sticking together, and we've had a couple of big blows in the last

couple of days, and as the parallel universe will, we're coming back off of two brilliant wins in

the last couple of days, and whatever that might not win the role would be, and feeling fantastic,

and we feel completely right now, but we need to stick together. Ipswich Town, they are a,

well the three points, and a game behind a Millwall, they've got a far superior goal difference.

I don't know if I'm not convinced, and I'm just cynical. What are your thoughts?

Really, really bad couple of results. I think the one last night, as I was flip-flop in between,

obviously, Kinski, but once all that debacle would settle down, it was then, right,

what's happening in the EFL, obviously, and really bad start to the game. First half in particular,

turn it around in a second half, and you feel as though this could be a massive, not just

three points, but like Kieran said there, they haven't come back and won a game yet this season,

which is strange, given the quality they've got in that squad, but you're thinking when they

get back to 3-2, the boost, the lift, the confidence, because that then says to you, no matter what happens

to you now in the season, we can win a game of football. Then to get pegbats, was it a bit soft?

Yes, the penalty was, but to not go and win that game was a massive, massive blow,

put so much more pressure on the games they've got left now. I think the matches they've got

Millwall coming up in a couple that looks absolutely huge. I feel they're going to have to beat

Millwall, they're going to have to beat Southampton if they're going to get in that top two,

which is obviously now going to be a real tough-ass, given the form that those other teams are in.

Someone said to me the other day, too much change too soon, and that's how they analyse it,

which very, very simply. I think that's probably right when you have a meteoric

rise like that where you go bang, bang to a place you've never been or haven't been in so long.

I think it makes it really difficult for the football club to catch up, but then the problem is,

is the fans then have an expectation of, okay, we've been relegated out of Premier League,

that's not necessarily such a bad thing because it is the Premier League, but now we expect to be

in and around those top two, three, four, five positions in the championship, and football doesn't

work like that. The championship is so unforgiving, and now they travel to Shefford Wednesday this weekend,

and you'd think, okay, right, we need to put up a cricket score with the utmost respect to Shefford

Wednesday, but if they don't do that, that's just another nail in the confidence coffin.

And these games keep passing by and passing by. You've only got 10 games after the season,

and for every single result, it doesn't go your way. It just chips away at the confidence of the

players. It chips away at the confidence of the fans. They start getting a little bit

testy and a little bit antsy, and then you roll into the playoffs in different form,

and we all know what that looks like. It never looks good. So I think he's got a hell of a job to

motivate his troops. I think he's got a hell of a job then for his troops to motivate the fans,

because that's the way it works. And look, I wish them the very best in success this season,

but I think if they come up against a mil war, I think they will possibly be beaten up.

Are they overcoached? It's such a time. No, I think Kieran McKenna's a fantastic coach. That's

one of the reasons I've sort of been so strong on them as a team, potentially getting in the top

two, because I do look at managers and the experience that they've got and the know-how. I think

what he has had to juggle this year. And again, listen, most other championship teams are saying

that cannot be a problem. Is the squad? And actually, how many options he's got in pretty much

every position? You know, we saw it earlier in the season where he's juggling for the gene and

Jack Clark. And I know most game clubs are saying here, but that's a dream. Two of the best left

wingers in the league, but actually to keep that balance and keep them going and being the one

who's going to go and make the difference. I look at the bench. They've got pretty much players

that would step into every other championship. But how many of those players are in form?

Well, that is the question. And I think that is the challenge when you're not necessarily playing

because he has chopped and changed. He's only really recently settled on that bat four. And then

obviously midfield, you're bringing Dan Neal in. Matt C was there. Jack Taylor. And it's been

metty, then comes in. He sort of flipped a little bit. Starts with the keeper as well. I mean,

they've rotated the keepers. You think about in the Premier League. They had Aaron Muirich.

They've gone and they took Alex Palmer from West Bromwich, Arby. And now they're back with their

start with Christian Moulton. Yeah. And I think that is for me what has been the big challenge.

Because if I look at the table and I look at a commentary, you know, 10, 9, 10 out of that team,

he said, what's their best start in 11? I'd be able to tell you, you know, same with Middlesbrough.

In recent times, you know, yeah, maybe a little tweak here in there. Mill will probably the same.

And it's consistency. It's not necessarily the amount of quality you've got in that squad.

It's weekend, week out, digging out a result on a Tuesday, winning a game on a Saturday,

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Perfect. Far from normal.

That team who may have their eyes on promotion from league one next season is

Sheffield Wednesday already relegated from the championship still in administration.

But the race to buy the club could be nearing its conclusion.

Let's bring in Rod Staten from BBC Radio Sheffield.

Rob, how are you?

Yeah, great. Thanks. Bit tired, though, because it's late late nights.

She's Sheffield Wednesday at the moment.

I bet. I bet overnight we got an update from the administrators.

Can you fill us in?

Yep. So there's a new preferred bidder.

Obviously, originally it was the James board led consortium.

They pulled out.

There's been a quick process now to find a new preferred bidder.

And a group led by an American gentleman called David Storch

is now in in pole position to buy the football club.

They were interested previously.

They were hoping to be the preferred bidder in December.

Now they get that opportunity.

So they will have to go through the EFL owners and directors tests.

They've put down any posits.

They will go through this process and the club will hope that they are in place.

And the new owners as quickly as possible.

You put down a deposit on the football club.

I mean, it's not like putting down a deposit on a car or a house.

How, how, how much sort of red tape do Sheffield Wednesday

and these potential new owners need to get through before they are in control of the club?

And they can start healing it.

I think that the current preferred bidder is very aware

that Sheffield Wednesday internally is an absolute mess.

I can't stress enough.

And perhaps I don't think on the outside people really understand

how much of a mess Sheffield Wednesday is.

There is probably not a club of this size and history

that is a bigger mess than Sheffield Wednesday.

And it needs sorting out.

And I think they're going into that with eyes wide open

and that's not so much the problem.

The major issue for Sheffield Wednesday is going to be what the restrictions are on the club

coming out of administration.

Are the EFL going to force this 15 point deduction on them for next season?

What kind of restrictions are they going to be on the signing players?

Because they don't have a squad at the moment.

They just have like a youth team with a few remaining experienced players.

They don't have anything to sort of look towards next season

and think on the pitch can be any kind of success if it's minus 15.

Are you effectively buying a league two football club at this point?

So I think that's the most important thing now.

I think they know Wednesday's a mess.

Ground training ground squad infrastructure.

All need huge repair work like you've never seen before.

It's what are you actually going to be next season in league one?

What can you actually do?

How far behind the A ball are you going to be on the points reductions?

Rob just done that.

You've touched on it.

I was going to ask about that 15 point.

It's obviously been mentioned now.

I mean for me as an outsider,

I was really hoping all the points reductions will be done with this season

and you can have a clean slate with it.

A new owner going in and to give Sheffield Wednesday the best possible chance

of getting back to where they should be.

What is the latest on that and if it is going to be?

I mean how big a blow would that be to everyone at the football club

who was anticipating maybe a reset and a real good tilt at getting promoted again next year?

I've just done an interview with the Sheffield Wednesday supporters Trust.

They have received documentation that is from the EFL,

another club passed it on to them,

which explained that the points deduction is at the discretion of the EFL.

So it's not a hard and fast rule necessarily according to the supporters Trust at least

and I have contact with the EFL for a response to this.

If they wanted to, they could put the points reduction this season.

Now on the one hand, that's very reasonable I think,

because you have an owner in Dej Ponce and Ciri who is solely responsible for this mess.

A new owner who is trying to rescue the club from this utter disaster zone of a football club

that they will be buying does not need the punishments to be sort of put on their doorstep

so that as they try and build this thing, they are just hamstrung immediately

and almost given the impossible task of turning it around.

And by the way, if you throw the book at Sheffield Wednesday,

this might not go through and then what happens then?

Like, do you have no Sheffield Wednesday anymore?

Is that the alternative?

But then the other side of the argument is that you have clubs in recent history,

EG, Derby County and other clubs who have also gone through this process and they will

argue, hang on a minute, these rules applied to us.

Why don't they apply for Sheffield Wednesday?

And that is a fair argument as well and it's very difficult to know,

what is the gray area here to come to the best decision?

Because for example, you could then turn around and go,

it would Derby Squad wasn't decimated.

So when they went down, they had a fighting chance in league one.

Sheffield Wednesday's current squad or what it will look like next season

will not have a fighting chance if you throw absolutely everything at Sheffield Wednesday.

So they might be in league two and then, you know,

what happens is there any future for Sheffield Wednesdays?

They've got to make a decision.

I think personally though, I've been sort of spent far too long trying to work out

or find out what the rules are for the EFL.

I think there is one thing we can probably all agree with

that Sheffield Wednesday football club can't be constantly punished for the mistakes of one owner

who is a million miles away from the football club now.

The next people who are basically saving the club,

and it's a big old club with a lot of supporters and a lot of people

care very passionately about it.

The club needs the chance to just crack on here and survive.

Not with any kind of advantages.

There's no advantages at Sheffield Wednesday.

It's a mess.

But they need the chance to start afresh without sort of feeling

that the ghost of Chan series hanging over Hillsborough for the next year,

two, year, three years.

But at the moment, the trust acclaiming that the EFL

have made it aware that Wednesday will have a point reduction

and will have a budget limit next season on wages

and who they'll be able to sign, which is below the average of a league one football club.

I just think that's wrong.

If the football club is sold and the new owners come in,

why would they then feel the need to punish a new owner who is trying to rebuild

one of the oldest institutions we have in football in this country?

It's wrong that they then have to deal with nonsense from the governing body

because somebody who came before them mistreated the asset.

In my opinion, that's wrong.

Whether it was right when it happened to Derby, I think it's wrong.

And that needs to be looked at because you cannot keep

punishing someone for something that they haven't done.

Rob, what do you reckon?

Our quick, could we potentially see

Sheffield Wednesday in new ownership?

Well, I think provided that there is some clarity provided fairly quickly by the EFL

as to what exactly the potential situation is going to be next season.

This could happen quite quickly.

These owners have been through a lot of the work that would have needed to be taken

place previously when they wanted to be preferred bitter in December.

So a lot of that works done.

I believe that they'd already sort of started working with the EFL

to begin the initial process of the owners and directors test.

So they're not starting things like today, for example.

That has already been, as workers already been on the taken in process.

So theoretically, it could take reasonably quick amount of time to get things done.

I feel as if, though, everybody needs to know exactly what they're walking into here.

They need to know.

The trust claiming, again, this is the trust claiming this,

that the EFL informed everybody in this group on Tuesday morning of what the restrictions

were going to be as they were preparing to agree to sign a deal to be the preferred bitter.

The club has been in administration for months, the trust have argued.

Why is this only being made aware of this on Tuesday?

They've still done the deal to agree to become the preferred bitter.

And now they need the clarity as to what exactly the situation is.

That has to happen ASAP.

If they get that, and if it's reasonable,

this football club could have new owners fairly quickly.

Rob, great to have you on with us.

Thank you for the insight.

Rob Staten, BBC Radio, Sheffield,

with us now, the big one for the weekend.

Potemalee Guam Portvelle, knocking Premier League Sunderland out of the FA Cup

to reach a court final.

So the first time since 1954,

they go to Stanford Bridge to play Chelsea in the last day.

I've been catching up with the Potvelle boss, John Brady.

He said you didn't even watch the draw.

Aaron, yeah, I'm wearing a promote in my dog mate.

I didn't really want to see it.

To be honest, I walked through the door and the kids told me that it was Chelsea away.

John, is it a good distraction?

The FA Cup for the squad, obviously, with the pressures of the league?

I think it's good for the finances for the football club and for the fans,

but realistically, the challenge that I was put in for

was to try and mount the challenge,

to see if we could get close to those teams above us.

And it is for me, it is a bit of a unwanted distraction,

but as I've said it, I've got to take it as a privilege because,

you know, when you get these opportunities as a league one football club,

they rarely come along and for the fans and for our players

that who richly deserve, you know, what they've done to get here.

Your owner, Carol Shanahan, is an absolute powerhouse of a human being,

a phenomenal woman who leads that club and runs it like a family.

I understand she didn't make the Bristol City tie

because one of her goats was about to give birth.

We want to know what the situation with that is,

but did she make it for the Sunland game?

OK, so the goat still hasn't given birth,

currently at the moment, it's drawn out.

It is actually milking it, so it's a little fun there mate.

Yeah, Carol came to the game on Saturday, which was great,

and obviously she was over the moon in her in Kevin,

and, you know, as you say, mate, she's told me about the analogy

about us this season, and she said, football's like a game of,

I think I've repeated it a few times, but football's like a game of snakes and that is.

And sometimes you hit a big snake and you go down,

or sometimes you hit a big ladder, and you go up,

but we must stay on the board, she's always told me.

Absolutely, I'm sure she'll be back, keeping vigil with cinnamon right now.

Just one more job before you leave us.

Are you enjoying yourself?

Again, I know you had a bit of time after leaving Northampton Town to reconnect

and sort of, you know, take some time with the family,

and you're waiting for the right job.

Are you enjoying it again?

Well, I am really enjoying it.

Thanks Aaron, loving every minute, loving the challenge mate.

And, you know, I'm really connected with a group of players.

We feel we're making a difference with them,

and, you know, they're loving their football at the moment,

and we're connected with the fans.

So, look, if we do it great, if we don't do it,

we'll try and bounce back next year,

and obviously we've got this FA Cup to continue,

and I want a great day out for our fans, I'll be.

The Port Vail Boss, John Brady, joining us on Five Life Sport,

back on Monday.

I have had an update from Carol Shanahan on cinnamon, the goat.

She just messaged me and said,

you've got Radio 4 on about the damn goat.

The goat has become a media superstar.

We need to have words.

And by pure chance, I'm going to Port Vail on Saturday.

So, I reckon I'm going to get a clip round the year from Carol Shanahan

for telling everyone about cinnamon, the goat.

But, look, I mean, yeah, what a name, what a story, what a club,

and what a good human being, Carol is.

We know how tough it was at the start of the season,

Joby, to let go of Darren Moore.

She is someone who believed,

I mean, she believed that he would take that club into the championship,

and there'll be a real long-term manager for them.

It didn't work.

She gave him ample time,

and they part a company, but in John Brady again,

I think she's got herself a really, really good head coach.

And whether they stay in league one or they are relegated to league two,

they've got someone there who's going to build a really good foundation.

Yeah, well, firstly, I mean, only in the EFL,

would you have a owner missing a massive game,

because the goat is giving birth.

But that's brilliant.

In terms of Carol, I'm just really pleased,

they've had a little bit of a good story,

because it has been a tough old season,

and she is a good owner.

You know, we talk a lot, you know,

we've just spoken about Sheffield Wednesday on the pod,

and numerous other, you know,

rogue owners who leave clubs in an absolute mess,

and have no real regard for community and fan base.

Carol is on the absolute opposite end of that spectrum,

so really pleased for her that they've had a bit of a nice positive story,

which has come off the back of a real tough league campaign.

And I think it's going to be difficult.

It's interesting here in John Brady saying it's been a distraction.

I think the cut runners helped them in terms of

getting a bit of a good factor around the football club.

Is it going to be enough to keep them up?

Probably not.

But again, another good person,

that are more good person.

I think, oh, Emily, if you are going to have a bad season

or not succeed, you want to do it with good people around you,

because at least everyone, you know,

has given their best effort, they're honest,

and it just hasn't quite been good enough.

And I think that's going to be the story for Portvelle this season.

Going into this game, Lyle, Chelsea's last 19 home games

against low league teams in domestic cut competitions,

19 wins, 72 goals scored, 36 different scores.

But would it surprise you if I told you that the last time

Portvelle played Chelsea, they beat them?

Do you know when?

I'm going to say long before me and you were born.

Joby might have been alive there.

No, that's cruel.

I think you can add all of our ages together and get it.

It was April 1929, Portvelle beating Chelsea

by a goal tonight. That's the last time the two teams met.

I mean, I think you could probably simulate it 10,000 times

and they might win it once.

But they've earned the right to a really, really good day out,

their fans, their players.

And I would like to know what the baby goat's going to be called.

What is a baby goat called?

Is it a kid? Is he a kid in there?

Yeah, so what's the kid going to be called?

Do we got that message?

Lyle?

Yes. I can nominate it.

As a name potentially, if you want.

No, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing that.

Why not? No.

I just want to know what the baby goat's going to be called.

Ben John might be the one. Ben John Wayne.

You say about Chelsea and it being difficult.

Don't forget Bradford City beat Chelsea 4 to a way.

Filipe Morace scored who started his career at Chelsea.

Remember that?

Quite a lot.

The overriding story.

It was Bradford on the, it was on the Phil Parkinson.

Okay, it was Parky, weren't it?

Parky, against Joe Zemmarina.

Whoo, it can be done again.

It, you never know.

Let's finish with this.

7, 2 plus, 7, 2 minus on the football daily.

Yeah, it's time for Joby's best and worse.

The FL moment of the week, Joe's what you got?

Well, I've got to kick off from what has been a bad week for Luton,

found a draw last night and I'm going back to the game against Redding,

where the defending was absolutely calamitous.

Josh Keely, Cal Nasemith, getting in all types of bobbah,

a real example of how not to play out from the back.

Let's hear it.

Richie's pounced again.

He's a hip-batcherman.

Patrick's a Calvin, a hip-batcherman.

3, 2 to Redding.

But Kennaworth rode in front of the Redding fans.

What a moment for Calvin E.

Absolutely fantastic for him and Richie again at the centre of the

Redding.

Luton trying to be a little bit clever trying to play out from the back.

I was there and let me tell you the defending was absolutely a big small

jack wheelchair, not a happy chap.

After that, what I can tell you, the players were in the dressing room for some time

because I had to wait for my interview.

Anyway, Joby, you're 7, 2 plus.

Yeah, I'm going to go for Bolton with a massive,

late, late comeback against Wickham in League 1, 2-0 down,

going into the final few minutes.

They score in the 88 and then 91st to draw a level.

And then this happens in the 95th minute of the match.

Here it is.

Bucket Taylor with a third for Bolton Wanderers,

a water goal for Bolton, deserving to win any game,

anywhere, beat two players,

being opened up for him.

An absolutely delicious shot, just kissed the far up right,

right into the top corner, top corner, top drum, top goal, top winner for Wanderers.

Love it, but Joby, crucially, no Corey Blacket Taylor in our fantasy EFL teams.

No, I did an Aaron Paul and didn't change my team over.

That's my excuse, but actually still did okay considering not as bad as when you don't change

yours over for like four months, only like consistency is everything in life, Joby.

Yeah, unfortunately, I've slipped down a little bit.

I was having a decent little run sort of aiming top 20 and it's gone the opposite way

the last few weeks.

So I'm a little bit like QPR did there game the other day.

My flip flops are on, I'm on the beach, mate.

Can't get promoted, can't get relegated.

Just mid-table obscurity.

Top of our league, Super Don's 1988.

I'm sure they'd love a big shot out from you, Lionel.

Super Don's 1988 gone with the league for us.

Come on.

I picked up a solid 13 points this week.

I'm happy.

Slow and steady, but we just confirmed that's the lowest score in our 147 team league.

Sometimes you have good weeks.

Sometimes you have bad weeks.

It happens.

It's okay.

We go again.

Where's everyone this weekend?

I'm aware, we're in on another plastic pitch.

Woohoo.

How many do you reckon you're going to get this season?

You're on 23 at the moment.

I would like to get 20 in the league, which would see me hit 28.

That's the target for me from this point.

And then if we reach that, then we, we readjust, reassess.

Love it.

Joe's way again.

I'm going to be in Rexham on Friday night,

a big Welsh battle.

Rexham Swansea, so always a cracking atmosphere.

Obviously, this point and result for Rexham last night,

but chance to get back on what has been a really good run of late.

So, yeah, it should be a few Hollywood big hitters on site, I believe.

Oh, yeah.

Like?

I think Joe would be macken off.

Rob and Ryan, and maybe a few other superstars from the world of VFL.

Aaron Paul, are you going to be there?

Yeah, I'm going to be there looking forward to it.

Can't wait for the game.

Yeah, Joe, look at the line.

Where's my invite?

So, I don't even get it on board.

You've been dropped, pal.

You've got, we've done a kind skill in here.

Have you got a deadpool fancy dress costume?

You can come up in that, mate, if you go.

No, I'm waiting for one of them to turn around and go.

So, you're the real Aaron Paul?

I'm feeling, yeah, mate, that's just me.

That's me.

I'm not, I'm the, there's only one AP.

That is it for this episode of the football daily.

Thank you to Joe, be thank you to Lyle,

as for us here on 72 plus the EFL pod.

We'll be back next week, catch you there.

Boys, quote me on this.

Oh, here we go.

Between, oh, here we go.

Yeah?

I think I'll land this coming right now.

I think we can make the playoffs.

See, I said this to a Wimbledon phone

who come down to the game yesterday

and he went, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

we're happy where we are.

We'll just shit.

I said, look, there's an outside chance

they could sneak in.

We can make the playoffs.

And I'll tell you one.

Okay, hear me out.

Nine points.

Every one around us is dropping points.

Joe, be out some respect to your former football club.

Out some respect.

Everyone around us is dropping points.

One, B.

A lot of traffic, mate.

B, a lot of traffic's not a problem.

Seven of our last 12 are at the lane.

Yeah?

We've got, on average, one to two games in hand

over everyone around us as well.

Yeah?

So if we pick up that six points,

we go to within three points of the playoffs.

And then I'm looking at it and I'm thinking,

Steven, I'm realistic.

One point,

Lauren, three points.

Peter Bra, three points.

Reventer early on the season.

Stop, put it away.

We'll probably get beat.

Lincoln away.

We'll probably get beat,

but here comes the running.

Loot at home, three points.

Bert and I being away, three points.

Stock, put it home, three points.

Pimmers at home, three points.

We're going to wait.

Three points.

Hudders feel the adjuster game.

The player for adjuster game.

Who do you fancy?

Do we fancy finishing fifth?

You fancy finishing fourth?

Do we want to finish six?

We're going to beat Hudders for the last day.

I can always lose two games.

I love the fact you actually think you're going to.

Okay.

Do you know when I had this thought?

Do you know when I had this thought, though?

Before six.

Last night about Midnight,

and I was supposed to be asleep.

And I was basically texting our director,

football guy, and I'm telling you something.

I can't stop thinking about it.

The playoffs were in sight.

Quote me on it.

We can do it.

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