9-9-26 - 11am - Jimmy In For Michael - Issues Affecting DPS & Star Wars!

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2:01You can give me a hard time or you can give me some love. I appreciate both. And you can follow all my latest columns when the Jimmy Jr. Blues band is performing and more at jimmysengenberger.com. Keep in mind there's no AI or you in Sengenberger. It's all ease all the time. Once you know that Sengenberger is easy. 56690, the K-O-A Commons beard, how text line I've got to start here real quick. The almond brothers band are good, but nowhere near being the best band ever. You have the right to be wrong. Cooper number 3719. You have the right to be wrong. So, what I think is so crazy is when you have people who are lawyers, whose clients have broken or have been accused of breaking local or state laws,

3:06asking the President of the United States for a pardon for said crimes. Now, I find it really strange and fascinating to see this play out when it does. I mean, we saw it in the case of Tina Peters, where President Trump issued a pardon to the former clerk of Mesa County for her election, the crimes related to her election security breach. And he had no right or authority to issue a pardon for state crimes. I mean, that's an absolute given that any lawyer should be aware of as a basic thing. That includes Kevin Reddington, the defense attorney for Lindsey Clancy, who of course was charged with murdering her three children and a mistrial declared last week.

4:10And the lawyer then is on television. Was it ABC this week? I think, ABC News with George DeFinopoulos, I believe. And he says this. What's next for Lindsey? I'd like to say that perhaps Donald Trump, who felt compelled to speak out about this case, made very well, Mr. President. I would hope that you would consider this young lady. The type of person she is, what she's been through and consider a pardon. I don't know what she's been through. I'm sorry, I just can't with that. But asking the President of the United States for a pardon, for murder, for, and she doesn't dispute that she accepts that she did it. The question is whether she's legally culpable or not guilty by reason of insanity.

5:10Apparently there's one whole algebra. We'll get to that in just a moment. But here is what President Trump said the other day about the Clancy case. It's a shame. It's a horrible tragedy. It's a horrible tragedy. I see what's happened. And it's, it looks like it's a home jury. I think the judges said it's going to be a mistrial. I assume there's going to be another trial. It's a terrible situation. Look, she did a horrible, horrible thing. Can't be worse. But you'll find out what the price to pay is. It'll be a price. It's going to be mental institution or jail or something. But I guess they're going to go through another trial. It's too bad. That doesn't sound like a President who even if he could pardon Lindsey Clancy and let's be clear he cannot that he would be inclined to do so. It's just it of all the things for it is absurd for any attorney to make that suggestion for alleged state crimes and say, hey, President Trump, please pardon my client as if it would do anything. Strangest thing.

6:19But now we have jurors speaking out and I wondered how long it would take. It didn't take long. I think it's 10 and Boston interviewed three of the jurors including the four person. And they had this to say in part of their thinking about moving toward not guilty by reason of insanity. They all had criticism for the prosecution. I just found it to be harsh, so very, very harsh. We weren't trying to figure out if she murdered the children. She did. And she's admitting that. We're trying to figure out did she know right from wrong at that time. And with everybody saying she loved her children so much and everything proved she loved her children from our journals to her mother-in-law, everything proved that she loved her children. So she had to have SNAP. Asked for the defense attorney Kevin Rengen he was entertaining which was good because we needed some about

7:22and arrogant at the same time. Yes, like arrogant and entertaining he would go back and forth between that. Yeah, like compassionate. Yes. With his arrogance. His compassion towards Lindsey was amazing. I listen to that and I go that's your basis. That's what you're thinking about. You can get an eye into the thinking here when they are they seem to come down very much to we don't like the prosecutor. We like the defense lawyer entertaining compassionate toward Lindsey because that's the thing that matters. I just don't get it. There's postpartum psychosis justification. Mind boggling to me. But then you listen to the way that they talk about the prosecutor, the way that they talk about the defense attorney. And it seems to come down to the personality of the lawyers more than anything else. Or at least that's a massive consideration. And what it goes to show is how your trial strategy,

8:27how you approach that matters. Because personality is so much of the game. And that shines through here. And I got to say I think kudos to the guy who kept holding out. And I hope that they held they hold a new trial in this case. It's going to be tough to do. But I think they should. And then the prosecution needs to handle their presentation differently. If this is the kind of feedback that you're getting because it shouldn't be about personality. But apparently it was very much about the personality could hear it from three of the 11 jurors that wanted to find or not guilty by reason of insanity. And be interested to see what happens next in this case. I'm Jimmy Sanginberger in from Michael Brown. When we come back a movie that you never thought you would see again in the way it was originally presented will be coming back to theaters in that original

9:31format. Well, a slight format change, but the original production will be back in theaters. Totally unexpected. Never thought it would happen. Come February. It's going to happen. What movie? What's going on there? A right? And I will talk about it as we continue here on KOA. A shocking crime and a cover up at the highest levels of the United States Marine Corps. Someone opened the door and was the primary sugar. Is it possible you could do that and then suppress a new podcast series. Fault line Haditha tells the story the United States government wants to keep buried. How can you not know? There were women and children there. Can you tell us here that you don't know what happened that day? Based on thousands of pages of previously classified documents and over a hundred hours of secretly filmed video. The truth about one of the most infamous crimes in Marine Corps history can finally be told. If you've got five players and one of them is guilty of murder at least and you offer immunity to the other four you better be right about the fifth

10:34because if you're not then you've just given immunity to your color. Listen to Fault line Haditha on the Lie Heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This episode sponsored by Homebase. Homebase is built for small businesses trying to do it all. The neighborhood coffee shop, the local gym, the family run restaurant. With Homebase you can schedule your team, track time, run payroll and manage hiring from one easy app so you can spend less time chasing time sheets and more time running the business your customers love. More than 150,000 small businesses already use Homebase to keep their teams on track. Start free at join homebase.com. Homebase built for small businesses that do it all. Throughout behind the glass we nerds don't always agree. In fact, A rod and I seem to frequently disagree. I'm Luke warm on Kenobi. Star Wars Kenobi show. Luke warm. I don't just like it but Luke warm

11:40on Luke. Luke Skywalker. Luke warm. On that I loved the latest Spider-Man brand new day. You did not. I did not. You did not and I expected you to really like it. I expected to really like it. But we're not going to get into that right now because that would be spoiler territory anyway. And we have exciting Star Wars news that I think both you and I will be very thrilled about. And that is well read it from variety on this news that came out yesterday. We already knew the big news that Star Wars Episode 4 a new hope is going to be coming back to theaters but not as episode 4 a new hope just as Star Wars as it originally came out in 1977. And this will be released on February 19th of 2027 celebrating 50 years and the new news that we are aware of as variety reports

12:41a galaxy far far away has never looked this good as the original movie is getting the coveted IMAX 70 millimeter treatment when it re-releases this coming 2027 for 50th along with Ryan Goslin starring Star Wars starfighter that will be coming out now the original cut that was debuted was at 35 millimeters. This is being enhanced and upgraded for 70 millimeters for these screens. So a ride how you feeling about getting to see something we never thought you and I would ever get to see in our lifetime the OG Star Wars and with this kind of quality. Well, first of all my immediate thought, especially when I hear original cut is what will be screened. Does that mean we will get live action real person job of the hut because that was the original cut was it not or did I go to CGI right before the release? No, in fact that movie was it or that scene was a deleted scene. It was never included in the original movie.

13:43I say bring it back. Yeah, so because remember that would have been a heck of a a red con yes, because job of the hut was a hut in return of the Jedi. So here's what George Lucas did. He intentionally he knew what he wanted. He intentionally recorded that scene with the guy and cut it out because he's like, this is not what I want. I want to add it in years later and in the special edition they added that scene, but it was not in the original Star Wars movie. It was one of many scenes overcut. Well, otherwise I am obviously thrilled about this now. The key is to find one of the what to 70 millimeter options we have here in Colorado. I believe one in Denver, one in the Springs at most when they're working, which they were not for the Odyssey. I think they're going to work. You think? I would hope so, but man, I would be too. I would be upset to buy those tickets far in advance like many did for the Odyssey in 70 millimeter only for not once, but twice to have it go down. Great point. I have no clue.

14:45I probably will not endeavor to see it on one of the 70 millimeter screens. I probably won't because of that literal concern in this state. This affair concerned. But otherwise getting ready to book my back to back on both of these if they have that option available, the the double feature ask if they allow that opportunity. That would be cool. I think you mean literally seeing both both the the redo of the new hope and theaters with the original cut and then start with star five. That would be smart, but I don't believe that will happen because it's a limited release February 19th and then starfighter will come out as most Star Wars movies have in May on May 28th. So that likely won't happen, but what's encouraging. So I have the original Star Wars pre-special edition, the original trilogy on VHS, but we're not even talking that. We are talking the cut as it was released in 1977 and has not been seen since 1977. Here's the biggest thing,

15:49a rod. And I know we got to go to the break, but George Lucas made it very, very clear that he never, ever wanted the original cut to be seen to see the light of day because to him, the most recent version, some of which I don't like some of the updates since the special edition that came out in the 90s, but that's the movie. But Disney has the authority and they probably went to him to get his blessing and convinced him, dude, 50 years. Do you think they did? Probably not. I mean, this is George Lucas is a guy who in an interview years back when talking about how Disney didn't follow along with what he wanted called them white slavers. So, you know, he's got to believe in an axe to grind. Probably not. He will take the money and be upset as he wipes his tears with his, and you know what? He's now got his George Lucas museum of narrative art, which looks really cool. I want to go in LA, maybe he'll be enthused about that and less so critical of this. I don't know, but it's fascinating. I'm Jimmy Sengenberger. That's a rod. This is

16:50the situation with Michael Brown and Kalei. A shocking crime and a cover-up at the highest levels of the United States Marine Corps. Someone opened the door and was the primary sugar. Is it possible you could do that and then suppress the memory? A new podcast series, fault line Haditha, tells the story the United States government wants to keep buried. How can you not know? There were women and children in there. You got to tell us here that you don't know what happened that day? Based on thousands of pages of previously classified documents and over a hundred hours of secretly filmed video, the truth about one of the most infamous crimes in Marine Corps history can finally be told. If you've got five players and one of them is guilty of murder at least and you offer immunity to the other four, you better be right about the fifth because if you're not, then you've just given immunity to your color. Listen to fault line Haditha on the Lie Heart Radio app. Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

17:53Now, the Denver Public Schools Board of Education seems to be wrapping up a board meeting with yet more drama as two school board members Monica Hunter and DJ Torres stand accused from the president to the school board of a litany of alleged violations of conduct and behavior. Let's dip in for just a second as one of those board members, DJ Torres gives some final comments. No, meaningful follow-up implementation plan or measurable outcomes communicated after each retreat. If we're discussing prudent use of taxpayer dollars, these two examples matter a great deal more to me. Finally, this is exactly what I was warned about before joining this board. I heard about interpersonal conflict consuming the work. Board members fixated on one another demanding access, seeking information about colleagues and documenting perceived failures. I have heard that boundaries are interpreted as hostility and disagreement becomes accusations of misconduct. I hope these

18:58descriptions were exaggerated, but after nine months I now understand they are not. This fixation on one another is one of the most embarrassing parts of serving on this board. I am choosing a different use of my time. I will continue visiting schools as I have been meeting with students, families and educators as I have been building healthy relationships with professional board colleagues and leaders across our city. And that's DJ Torres, one of the members of Colorado's longest, largest rather school district's board of education. And he's right about all the interpersonal conflicts and everything that have bogged down this district for so long. The Tanderson era of the school board, we thought when he left that it might get better. Well, the drama continued. Then now here you go. What's going on here? Let's spend a few minutes with someone who's been watching this meeting. Vernon Jones Jr. is CEO at Faith Bridge and a past candidate for the

19:58school board, someone who attends meetings regularly follows these things. A Vernon welcome to K O A. Good afternoon sir. Good morning to you. Hope you're doing well. I can't wait to go to the buddy guy country. That's all I'm going to start with. Oh, you're going to be there. Well, I am going to be there now. Since you're going to be fine as I'll, you know, maybe there's a DPS thing. The blue zone. Yeah, there you go. There you go. I got my herbotic is here by briefcase full of blues that I can throw out some DPS blues to end up to end our conversation. Vernon, I'll do that in a minute. But let's get right to this because there's one of the accusations against one of the board members. Monica Hunter is that she had used an anti-Semitic slur about a board member, one of her colleagues. But then there's a slew of other things against both Hunter as well as DJ Torres. If you were to sum up what is going on here, sort of big picture so we can understand it Vernon Jones. What's happening? What are some of the allegations? Give us the 4-1-1.

20:59Yeah, I think I think the bigger thing that we got to understand, Jim, is that two things can be true at once. You can have individual board members who are not fulfilling their responsibilities. And then you can simultaneously have a board that's not fulfilling its collective responsibilities. I think the board has had multiple retreats to try to remedy this and not just this board as you noted. Previous boards also have these efforts to try to get adults to get along to exercise things for kids. And I think we've seen failure there, right? And so these individuals have not been able to come together in a way that is productive for young people. And I think that's what they need to do. That is what the cities expected them to do. That's what the elected expected them to do. And that's what the 89,000 plus kids in Denver Public Schools needs them to do. And this is, you know, we can say, oh, this is how adults interact. These are the interpersonal stuff. No, this is this is this is the point where adults just have to pony up and do the right

22:00thing and stop. You're elected for a purpose. You're not elected for the attitude. Not elected for the drama. There are policies that govern how you need to work with each other. There are policies that govern how you represent the district publicly. And like I said, you can be individually failing and you can also be collectively sell it. And so I think in our education compact, right now we are having a governance failure in the Republic Schools. And that has to be remanied by all of the directors, not just one of them. And that's a red. So Vernon Jones, as you look at what's going on with this meeting in particular, I think you captured the big picture very well. And that's very true. Everything you said I couldn't agree with more. But we have the slew of, I mean, I'm looking here at the spreadsheet or rather the slideshower, whatever it is that was ostensibly put together by the school board president, Sochi Guy-Ton, who's leveling these accusations against board members, DJ Torres and Monica Hunter.

23:02And there are a lot. It's like a laundry list of complaints. Can you tell us like summarise what the allegations are? And do you think that there's an issue of merit here to them to be addressed, but whether this is the right way to go about it, what do you think? Well, I said, you'd be 13 is the policy that they're talking about. There's a process by which this board is supposed to handle these things. So there's a step by step process. So step one, was there an individual conversation or an individual outreach from one board member to another who noticed the violation? The president is saying that there was, and I think you heard legal counsel say earlier in the message that, hey, if one board member reaches out to another and you don't respond, you don't just get to ignore the fact that there's a concern about policy violations. So I think that's where your first hiccup started. That somebody's like, hey, this was, oh, there was an outreach. There was no response. And so if there was no response, there legal advice was, hey, that was considered step one. So this moved to step two. And that's why I

24:07think these things are being discussed publicly because there was a, there was a thought that step one of their board policy had been followed. And so since that took place, there now where they are, steps two, discussing the allegations publicly. And problematic again, like this could have probably been resolved one to one, if individuals would have sat down and said, hey, let's get some understanding of where we're at. But what it sounds like that was not done. And so this is why we are now seeing this kind of ugly thing play out publicly. Yeah. And their allegations from the one that is disturbing to me, the allegation of an anti-Semitic slur supposedly uttered or in some former fashion by Monica Hunter towards another board member. But then you also have complaints about attending meetings and whether you're there enough for certain meetings and whether you're critical of

25:08the school board itself, because there's this notion you're supposed to speak with one voice and so forth. And a lot of the things as I look at the late and a Vernon, just to me, read like nit picking on a slew of things and not focusing on maybe a few more significant ones that might be particularly worth focusing or addressing if you're even going to go in that direction. Well, I think that's what happens right for a man is I get once you get, once you get to like picking, you're right, you just start picking at everything, right? And then it just becomes this litany of and this happened and this happened and this happened. And based on what I heard in the meeting, the president has got some feedback from different individuals. I don't know if it's board or or staff or whatever, but seems like she's got different inputs from a lot of different folks. I think that's probably what we see and what looks like nit picking is that she kind of put everything in there. Probably everything that she heard, she put it in there. I don't know if everything that she heard necessarily is a policy violation or a practice violation of a board member, but to your point,

26:12there are some probably more serious things that are getting, I don't think that alluded, but are getting lost in the sauce because there's so much there. I think to your point, they could have really been thoughtful about which ones are actually policy or board practice violations instead of just all of it kind of in to just look like personal, personal attacks. As we finish up with you Vernon Jones, one of the things that I look at here is Dr. Alex Moreiro. I've been very critical of the superintendent. I've called for his resignation. I've called for his ouster. I said the school board should get rid of him whether that means they have to pay out the rest of his contract or not. I've been critical of the ways handle his contract. And I think with that said that there have been efforts to put up defenses. Some of it from my vantage point, it looks like the school board president, President Gaiton has often come to his defense. We did see things that went on last year when John Youngquist was a censured and then other things that have happened. And part of me wonders if

27:16there's a third thing that's true. In addition to some board members may have failed in their conduct, the whole board is failing in their conduct, but then also juxtaposed with that, perhaps you have a situation where a lot of being thrown here against two school board members who are very critical. DJ Torres Monica Hunter have been very critical of how President Gaiton has handled the school board meetings and so forth, but also been very critical of superintendent Alex Moreiro. And there's a part of me that thinks maybe this is also another shield for Moreiro by trying to focus negative energies on two critical school board members that may or may not have legitimacy to it, but in doing so, you're effectively distracting from that lens toward the superintendent. What do you think? Yeah, yeah, I'm going to let you draw that conclusion. I will say that I know that I was at a Southeast Denver meeting last night at a Southeast Denver. 87% of those schools are green and those

28:21kids are performing it and in far Northeast Denver, 40% of those schools are green. Okay, I say that point to say the board needs to be focused on that. The superintendent needs to be focused on that, and if we focus on those things, everything else will take care of itself because that's where I think we need to be irritated as a as a community. That's where we need to be irritated as parents. That's where we need to be irritated as educators is all of this is getting in the way of the promise that we make the kids and it's not acceptable and being a board issue, being a superintendent issue, being a staff issue, being a community issue, whatever it is, whatever is in the way of us delivering for kids, that's the stuff we need to take care of. And if that is a person on the board, if that's a superintendent, if that's an educator in a building, if that's a community person, we have to be courageous courageous to deal with those things that are getting in the way of Denver being what we know we need to be for kids. And so that's why I mean, I'm not going to get pulled into the ceremonies of our lives as the world turns right. I think, you know, that's just not working for kids.

29:25I mean, we can watch all my children, I don't know, there's all my children still up, but you know what I'm saying. We are here to ensure the best outcomes for the kids in Denver. And that's what we need to be focused on, what President Guy Tonne, all the board members to be focused on that. And I definitely want the superintendent, Dr. Marrero and his staff to be focused on that because that's really what we should be judging. Right. Days of the DPS board is going to end up becoming one of the longest running soap operas of all time. I agree with you completely. And that's actually to my point is I think that there has been so little focus from the board and from a district leadership and Marrero, my view, on on actual academic achievement and improving things. Hence, lose for DPS. Yeah, there you go. There's a little blues on the harp.

30:27Appreciate it, man. I appreciate you, man. Keep up what you're doing and let's tap in. Thank you, sir. Good to talk with you. Appreciate it. Vernon Jones Jr. CEO at Faithbridge joining us talking a bit about the ongoing drama soap opera that is DPS schools as we continue and wrap up wind up the program. Christopher filling in for Mandy Connell here in just a bit. My sense, I gave a little bit of my opinion. I think Alex Marrero has been a failure for DPS and so has the school board. This is a district that just can't get over itself and it needs to get over itself. It needs to have done so long time ago. And yet it continues with the drama with the interpersonal squabbles. And I think Vernon really put that well and where the focus needs to be.

31:28And we're not seeing the focus in those ways. No ifans or buts about it. Jimmy Sengenberger here with you for Michael. By the way, I'll be in for Mandy on this Friday. September 11th from the 25th anniversary of the most devastating and attack on American soil. And we've got a couple of special guests really looking forward to interviewing them coming up on Friday. That will include a guy by the name of Mike Fish who was a police sergeant in Boston. At the time of 9-11 and he called up the chief there in New York or a chief and said, Hey, how can I help? And 4 a.m. that next morning, he was at ground zero. And he used months of vacation time that he just pent up to go help. Now he's got some powerful recollections and stories to share. We'll also be joined by

32:33former ambassador Paul Bremer who you may recall. He was the head of the provisional government in Iraq. Not long after the fall of Saddam Hussein, things did not go as anticipated there. And he was brought in to help try and and write the ship a little bit for a while in Iraq. But what you may not know about his saga is that on 9-11, he was CEO of a major financial firm that had its, I believe, principal office in one of the towers. And it was totally wiped out. So he will be joining us to remember 9-11 and what has happened since and so forth. That'll be great. And also I was 11 years hold on September 11, 2001. And remember that day very vividly, but there's a very interesting perspective difference, I think, across the generations for those who were like many and I were

33:36talking about it yesterday that she covered 9-11 when it happened was in news and the radio was doing news and has that perspective. Michael Brown, not long after, would end up at Fima and so forth. You had a younger generation of millennials who were on the older end there who were like young gen Xers at the time stepping up to go serve their country. Then you had younger ones like myself or my sister was four remembers a little bit flashes of 9-11, but not much. It's and then you got Gen Z and Gen Alpha. No clue because they either weren't born or were infants or very little at the time. So we'll have a little bit of discussion on that and then there are other things news of the day and so forth that we will cover as well when I'm feeling for

34:36Mandy on Friday, but man, is it a powerful week to be sure? And it's interesting. There's this midterm convention that the Republicans are having tonight and tomorrow. We've never seen anything like it. And I don't know that it's going to be that helpful. Maybe it'll boost turnout. I think that's what Trump is trying to do. He's the master showman. He loves to put on the best show on Earth, although usually that best show on Earth appeals most to those who are there in the room. Even more than those on TV who are watching, I'm not sure what it'll do. It might even hurt him because you'll have Trump out there touting things that well, right now you want. Normally you have the president of the United States and incumbent in midterms pulling back and not being out front and center this time different. Trump is out front center. Might get you like maybe it'll help boost turnout. We'll see what happens.

35:38But it will indeed be fascinating to watch as all things are in this day and age. That is it for me. Jimmy Saganberger in for Michael Brown. I will be in on Friday again for Mandy, Krista K for up for Mandy today and the conversation will continue right here on KOA. Have a great rest of your week. May God bless America. We're not boring. Lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world. About something about a comedic tone. We have a winner. Yes. Listen Armstrong. You getty on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I believe that whoever was in that room and did that was a murderer. A new podcast series, fault line Haditha tells the story of a shocking crime and a cover-up

36:42at the highest levels of the United States Marine Corps. If you've got five players and you offer immunity to four, you better be right about the fifth because if you're not, then you've just given immunity to your color. Listen to fault line Haditha on the iHeart Radio app. Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.