90s Blind Spots: Monday, March 2nd, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies. It's the tallos. It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. It sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday hope everybody had a great weekend. That was both restorative and parjolicious definition. When in doubt, just say parjolicious. When in doubt, pargy. Yeah. Well, my weekend was restorative and pargy. And you want to know how I know that? Let me us. Let me guess. How do I know? I feel like you know you had a restorative weekend when you didn't get out of your pajamas. Is that what happened to you? You guys, we just had to we just recorded the first two minutes of this episode before we realized that we were having an audio issue. So we fixed it and started over, but that was the conversation. That was the conversation. She's like, I hope everyone had a restorative weekend. I was like, I didn't want to know how I did. And

1:00she racked her brain and she didn't know how to think possibly. And I said, because I didn't get out of my pajamas all weekend and the ones that I wore to sleep. So like, I didn't leave my house. I got to like, be cozy with Max no weekend. On Saturday, everybody came to me. So like, things were bust and we played mage. We had a bar. It was like a little storm. There was a storm. We did a little bit of everything. What about our barbecue? The thing I like about spending time in Florida is that when it rains, I'm like, immediately transported back to like summer camp. Because it's hot and it's raining and you know what just like needs to rain briefly so that it'll pass. But you get this temporary moment of like chilly, cozy vibes. We had to bring in our mosh table like it was coming through the screen. The wind was crazy. No, it was like kind of crazy weather. It was really cozy and sweet. And then it's back like 20 minutes later. Then we were able to have our barbecue outside. And then we love barbecue. And then we were back inside waiting for the rain again. The barbecue was it. Let's talk about the food. The food was really good. Actually, like, I don't know. Yeah vibes were really good. No, the food was excellent. Except for the hamburger. So yeah, like, Ben went to the grocery store and Jackie's publics was like a kind of a bus in kosher section. So Ben just bought pre-made kosher patties. The

2:04allyship from publics is so beautiful. It can't go unnoticed like the allyship. Jackie then saw what Ben got and was like, listen, those pre-made patties suck balls. But we already had them. That was like, no, it's just because you don't season them when you make them. Yeah, he did victim blame. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, maybe I'm maybe I'm just bad at them. We get a pre-made patties from our kosher grocer. And they're like better than any patty you can make yourself. This is not the kosher grocer. So we overestimated the allyship. The burgers were disgusting and terrible. But everything else was amazing. The camaraderie was amazing. That's hot dogs. We should have just had hot dogs because that's all. The chicken. The chicken. Corn. French fried air. I just love a barbecue. It's so much work. But it's actually not because no, because I told Ben for this barbecue. Whenever we have a barbecue, the people like we can agree on barbecue because it's so much work. And Olivia is prepping at her house and Ben wants to do like start at 10 a.m. and eat at one. And he wants to start like making dishes on Instagram. Did he tell you what he wanted to make? But he didn't make. So I pleased him the entire time that he was cooking. And we really kept it very tailored because I was like, Ben, we don't have to have a

3:06barbecue that like makes us never want to have a barbecue again. No, they don't have to break up the family every time we have a barbecue. And Ben really takes advantage of the family rule. Like if you cook, you don't have to clean, which is I think a fair rule. But I no longer think it's a fair rule because I think he takes advantage of it. So I was in charge of cleanup. But let me tell you, I was shocked, honey. I was in tears that have few, I was doing dishes. How few dishes there were. That's also, you know, barbecue being so underrated. It's just the grill. You know, there's no pots. There's no pans. You know, if you're a sweeper, highly recommend throwing a barbecue. So it was a very successful and I feel like we'll do one again because we all had a pleasant experience. I don't know. Maybe we should just take the W because Ben was sort of whispering about this dish. She wanted to make what is it that he saw on Instagram. And he wanted to try it was like a barbecue themed ready. You're going to throw up a hot dog tartar. That's disgusting. Yeah. And I love a hot dog. But he saw a hot dog tartar. I was waiting for him to bring it out. I thought he made it. Did you enjoy his eggplant and lob now? Oh my god. Okay. So Ben and I went to the farmers market on Saturday, which we've logged. By the way, it's on the patreon. People are like sort of saying it's like the next Anthony Bourdain, you know, whatever show he filmed.

4:08Which one of you is Anthony Ben? Obviously. And I'm like the rude producer. Like the bitchy PA. Like I was like giving commentary the whole time. Ben and I both put on microphones and I forgot that like we were mic'd up the whole time. So I'm in the car. Ben's over here. I hear Ben talking to the lady from the produce stand. Like it was so funny. And so we were it was a small farmers market. We hit all the stands and towards the end, honestly, I felt like a third wheel being there, Ben met the woman of his dreams. She was running a stand called Mediterranean Delight. I feel like it actually wasn't Mediterranean fair. It was like Persian. It was stuff I see on Shaz of the Valley, you know, Lobne and Babaga Nushin. Oh, in Shaz of Sunset, Adam is like always making his tabooly or whatever tabooly or I can't remember tabooly or Babaga Nush. And then whatever, they're making fun of him because it's like not even good. But it's like his thing. He like married someone person. It makes tabooly. That's so thank you. So I don't know what the fair was. And she was saying that the farmer was Jordanian and the cheeses from Lebanon. So I

5:08feel like it actually wasn't Mediterranean. It was more Middle Eastern, whatever. Ben bought, first of all, she gave him a four-course meal of tasters. I just think she liked him. And I literally felt awkward being there. Like they were in love. Ben said it was the best food I did by a Baklava. I know that's Mediterranean. It was so fucking good. Ben got like cheeses and oils and I don't know. And it's all stuff you leave out on the counter. Great. You know how much I love things out of the counter. So yeah, we've logged in. How do we get here? I don't know. I'm like waiting for you said. Do you enjoy his whole set to say? No, I didn't try anything because you know that shit is disgusting. It's like cheese sitting in oil on my counter. It doesn't even go in the fridge. Well, if cheese looks like a mozzarella. Thank you. No, it was cheese. He made super-scogee. No, no. He made even make it. His mistress gave it to him. It was the craziest time in the farmer's market. It was like so drama, you know. Yeah. It was so fun, though. And actually you should check out the vlog for a little surprise. I will. Ben launched like a project. Are you going to yell at me about last night? Is there going to be a public

6:11vlog? Okay. So I wanted to go to like a party Sunday dinner. Thank you for reminding me. I have so much to tell you. I wanted to go to like a party Sunday dinner and everybody here tells me about this Chinese food place that like they all go to on Sundays, but it's like kind of far. So I called Jack. I was like, we're going to go to the Chinese place and just like, you know, it's like 40 minutes. You know, I said, I said, oh, nice. And you said, how far is it? I was like probably 31. You asked how far? So I said like 35, 40 minutes. And then I looked on Google was 38. And then I was realizing that I had like eaten pretty healthy all day. And like, even on the drug, like I can control myself at Chinese food. So I was like, you know, let's pivot. So yes, my sister for a food recommendation, big mistake. Yeah. I gave her the wreck of like a really great Asian place that's closer by than I've been to. When I think Asian, I think sushi, Japanese, Chinese, fine. And I think like, it's a, it's a, it's a cuisine that I like because it doesn't feel inaccessible to me. Like, yes, you can do it really fancy and highbrow, but it's lots of rice and chicken that I love. Yeah, as long as there's rice and chicken. I've never even looked at a menu. If I'm going to an Asian restaurant, whether it's Chinese

7:13Japanese, like rice, I can figure it out. They have teriyaki. When I walked into this restaurant, I was like wishing I had looked at the menu before because it was when she, the waitress was explaining like the fare to me. It was so elevated. It was fusion. It was shared tapas. And like, but tapas is Latin. It was just so fusion. It was just a concept. But it's Latin. But it's a concept. It was so fusion. It was so inaccessible. I looked at the menu. I'm like, there's not one thing for me on this menu. There wasn't side rice. They had all these different fusion fried rice is all that had pork. And I was like, do you have like a fried rice veg? You should be, yeah, we couldn't do like a vegetarian fried rice. And I will say that was the one thing I'm like kind of clung to. Ben was in fucking heaven. Again, I felt like a third wheel with the waitress she kept coming over me. Like, how is it? Like, because yeah, I want to ask, like, did he love it? Oh my god. It's really good. Loved. Ruby was also like, oh, he loved it. No, he was sort of like close to bedtime, like, not having it. And so I was like, you know, you enjoy your date with your waitress. I will go outside and walk him around. It was just, I left so hungry. I like

8:16wanted to kill you. Like, you don't know me. Oh, and the crazy thing is it was like a cute little area. So we walked around afterwards looking for, you know, an ice cream spot. The restaurant across the street, you should have recommended to me. That was like, I've never been there. I don't know it. It looked just like a regular sushi restaurant. Like very accessible. No fusion. It was very righty turd. And next time I ever, and you should do this, having known yourself, like, how, I don't want to age you, but how old are you? How many years on this planet? I'm about 19, six. You should be looking at the menus before you go to restaurants because you are so picky. If you or Ben tell me to go somewhere, like the two people on this planet who are supposed to know me best, I don't expect you walking into a global fusion. Like, it's just not me. Okay. Well, the place across the street, like I said, I got a 50%. Right. Yeah, the wrong 50. And I will be going to the place across the street. Okay. So you're hungry today. I'm excited. We need a party lunch. I wanted to talk about what's in this envelope.

9:17Oh, we have something important to do today because sort of businessman of the week. You know, we said that we're not going to change businessman of the week every week because then we're just sort of beholden. And then it becomes like this stupid thing. But we've actually been right on schedule where every week we have a businessman that we need to feature. And it's an amazing opportunity for many reasons to feature an amazing person, you know, a business shout-out, someone who's doing something that we didn't know that they were doing. We didn't know that was happening. And I'd like to shout out. It was a toaster who gave us this idea. You know, we always talk about our friend Bridget. Bridget, you know, it's a funny. She's like, I call her app Bridget. I call her app Bridget too because I told her last name because her username on Instagram was just Bridget. But it's Bridget Ball. It's me. It's Bridget Ball because she started the bar. She's a queen for many reasons. But in the last year, she's documented her journey on social media going through chemo. It's been like a really trying time. And she's always talking about her own husband's like, so therefore, they just finished treatment. And she was posting on her Instagram that she really wants to do something for her husband because he's been just so supportive and so amazing during this time. Like literally put his whole life on hold for her. So she was like, I want to take you on a trip. Yada yada. And she shared that Mike actually doesn't spend her husband,

10:19doesn't want to go on a trip because he feels so behind. He's sort of like just put work completely to the side and going on a trip would just make him feel even more stressed and even more behind. So she was like, but what can I do for you? And he was like, you know what? It would actually be really helpful if you could like share on your Instagram. She's like a million followers all female. A lot in her area. She lives in Texas. If you could just like share a little bit about my business on your Instagram, like maybe to get some more information. He's a plastic surgeon. I actually know a couple of people who Shannon Ford has posted that she got her upper bluff done. They've had amazing amazing. He's like a very, I wouldn't tell anyone to just go to any plastic surgeon. Like I know a couple of people who've gotten boobs, eyes, face, all the things. So having said all of that, our businessman of the week. This week is Dr. Mike. Mr. Bridget. Mr. Bridget, she has headshot printing. Oh my God. Also, I just love him. Like he is the standard for what a husband should be. He's so cute. I love him. Yeah. So sorry to the CEO of Air Maze, we sort of have like bigger gotten booted by Dr. Mike, such our husband and if you are in the Dallas Metro area and need any sort of plastic surgery or injectables, we recommend that you check out his

11:22practice. Yes, go out Shannon Ford. She had the best, most amazing experience there. Actually, she recovered at Bridget's house. I don't think they do that for other patients. But if you're in the need for new breasts, new eyes, new lips, new face, whatever. Maybe a little something, a little tinker. I mean, cosmetic or maybe something like, you know, that's just bothering you your whole life and you haven't let this be this time. A little consult. Look at him. Perfect. Our BMOTW, Mike Chota. Excuse me. Dr. Mike Chota. Dr. Mike. I'm obsessed with business man of the week because in all of our clips, there's just like a guy right behind me. Like, I'm obsessed with it. I like it too. And I also feel like it's a really great opportunity, like for, you know, to share some good news. It's very cause driven. We are extremely cause driven. And of course, we are waiting for sponsorships. But before those come, like, I really like using it as a platform just to highlight someone who's doing something really great. Like, that it's giving some good news by John Krizenski. Oh, my God. Maybe we'll sell for a hundred million. Maybe we will. Yeah. Last week, we highlighted someone who refused to join Jeffrey Epstein's pedophilia ring, slay the house tambutes at Exel, Juma. And then before that,

12:23we highlighted just a man doing his best. And the man who inspired business man of the week. And that's Paul Salem, maybe soon boyfriend of Nicole Kidman. Yes. I have heard that they're dating. And that's what that weird article was. Like sort of a soft launch. Well, good. Yeah. I love that. What else should we talk about? I read the redhead's book this weekend. We are reading what kind of paradise by Janelle Brown and we're recording today. And I didn't know what to expect. But the book dares to answer the question. What if the Unibomber had a daughter? That's what the book was. It was like fan, enough fan fiction. What's it called? Like Quentin Tarantino does it when it's like, no, it's sort of like fan fiction. It's like, like, I did like, like, historical fantasy, I guess. Yeah. It's like the story kind of pretty much the Unibomber. But his daughter is in the cabin with him. And she's, you know, it's a coming a beige novel. That's really crazy. And you know, I'm like kind of obsessed with the Unibomber. I do know that. So I didn't mind taking a path down Unibomber way. But no, I enjoyed it actually. It felt like

13:24so many books that I've already read though. Like, you ever heard of educated by Tara Westover? Do you ever hear that book? I've heard of it. Yeah. You've heard. Oh, it's really, really good. It felt like that. It felt like tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, which was like a huge book for the book girlies because it's all about like the invention of the internet and like gaming and whatnot. So I feel like now would be a good time to just like share my truth that like, I don't know like what the Unibomber is. Okay. Can I? Is that like crazy? No, it's not because it happened in the 90s when you were like, like, you were living it. So no one taught you about it because it wasn't history to you. But you were too young to know what was going on. And I just like always Unibomber this Unibomber that there's never been like the right time for me to share. They're like, I don't know what the fuck that is. Or is it a person? Yeah. It's a person. It's a serial killer. His name is Ted. Oh, a serial killer. He's a serial killer because he was the Unibomber. He used to send packages to different people. He was like, he was an anarchist and he was like really against like technology and advancement and progress. And he would send male bombs in the

14:25mail to different like professors and people in like a high up who are like making progress. Right. Um, and studying these things. And it's called Unibomber because it was like universities and airline farmers. I don't know. He sent it to airlines too. Um, and it went on for like 20 years. Oh, my. I could not catch him. So it's here. And then they did. And then they did. In the 90s, you want to know how they caught him? I would love to know technology. So he said he sent a letter to the Washington Post in the New York Times saying, if you publish my manifesto, I will not kill again. So like the FBI. And this was, it had been like a global case. So they were like, you're a movie. Yeah. It's a mini series called Man Hunt Unibomber. I recommend it. And I read up on him last time because I was like, I want to. Is it going to spoil it? No, no. You're not going to watch it. It's just history. It kind of sounds like something. I mean, you're like, maybe it sounds so enticing. Okay, go. I'm just playing the Swirlies. Go spoil it. I'm playing the Swirlies. Yeah, sure. So they, he sent the letter to both of them saying like, if you publish my manifesto, I will not kill anyone else. And they're like really torn at the whole country because like, you know, you don't want to negotiate with terrorists, but like you don't want anyone else to die.

15:27And then this magazine pen house was like, well, publish it. Pen house? Yeah. And he was like that. For now? Yeah. He was like, that's too unsavory. So I'll just kill one more if you guys are publishing it. Like, and so then the New York Times was like, okay, we'll publish it. I think that's the right. So they published it, but also because they wanted to see if anybody reading it might recognize the language that he was using. And it turns out that his brother's wife was on to him and was like, this sounds like a letter that he wrote us once. Like, he's so crazy. He's been saying this stuff for years. And then the brother and his wife, they actually did a lot of it. It's always a wife. They did a lot of due diligence before they officially turned him in. Like, they had people comparing his letters. Like, is it a match? And they turned him in. And it was him. Okay. Now, I feel like this is such an amazing story. Like, I'm tripped. Like, yeah. And I know people talk about the universe all the time, but I feel like it should be like more famous story. Like, how did I not know what that is? I feel like people reference him a lot, but again, it's just like JFK love story. It happened in the 90s. So we were, yeah, we were old enough to be

16:29there, but young enough that we're not learning it in our history books, maybe like kids nowadays, but it was part of like a lot of like 90s crime that I only recently learned about like Waco. Speaking of Waco, oh my god, I cannot believe you brought up Waco. I literally felt like Waco. What did you do, David? So where we're saying it has a ceiling fan. And I love it. It also has a light. And it happened once before, but last night, twice, the ceiling fan must be wired in properly. The light went on. Do you know what it's like to be woken up with a bright light above your head in the middle of the night? Waco. I was like, it was and happened twice. I was in fucking hell. Then I couldn't go back to sleep. It was literally like what the FBI did to that cult. Yeah. Great thing. I literally felt like David crash. Branch Davidian. I can't believe you brought up Waco. I was like thinking before the show all comes back to Waco. That actually is true. So yeah, this like is like Waco oriented, which reminds me of educated by Tara Westover, because there's also like, it's her memoirs. She grew up like in a survivalist home like out in the

17:32center die. I mean, four sisters, survivalist, you know? Yeah, like a, you know, four sisters, one bathroom, apocalyptic. Literally. Yeah, I feel that that was us. What else can we chat about before we get into the stories? I did redheads will come about speaking if you read the book or you're like read it and read along with us. I did watch the actor awards last night. And I have a lot of negative things to say, even though you know, I hate to be negative. That's just my truth. Okay. Well, we're going to get into it. I think that's a story. I mean, I think I chose them. She's so cool. And let's get into it, shall we? Without further ado. It is time for the past five stories that you to do need to know. And the past five stories that you to do need to know are brought to you by Vivrell. If you don't know Vivrell yet, you ain't live it. Oh, Jackie's back is from Vivrell. Hello to my Goyard. That's on loan from Vivrell. Also sound up in the comments because I'm thinking because this is the beauty of Vivrell. It's like to swap borrow bags. You can swap them. I've got to try out this Goyard tote that I was always wondering is this for me and it is. But now I'm wondering if I should go bigger. I do think you should have a different color.

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22:40your order of wetterspoons, Manuka Honey. I'm very passionate about our brands today. I can tell. I love that. I have another brand that I'm passionate about that I'll let you guys know about. Is it chapshowswarch.com? Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In the next break. In the next break. Yeah, tune. Yeah, Jackie, kind of has a big announcement. It's a good project. Our first story. The actors' awards were on Netflix last night. We've got the big winners, the big losers. Michael B. Jordan bested Timothy Chalamet. That's kind of a big deal. The red carpet was parjolicious, definitions. It was very high quality. I really liked Netflix's, you know, I think this is the first award show they've done. And I thought it was very high-brow. The carpet looked gorgeous. The livestream was pretty seamless. I loved having no commercials like that. I definitely felt like I was living in the future. They do say about the Sag Awards because it is like a peer-voted. I have a hair stuck in my lipstick. Do you see it? I do see it. I think you just got it by bumping your mic. It's like a peer-voted award which people, you know, say means more. Because it's

23:46presented by Sag Aftra. Right. And you won because your peers think that you did a great job, your fellow members. But they also say it kind of has no bearing on Oscar because it's peer-voted. So take that with like the winners with a grain of salt. I think some people like want to win it, but they don't like get down on their hopes of an Oscar because of it. Yeah. Kristen Bell was a host. How did she do? She Ariana DeBose to the fuck out of the end. Trump like surprised like how we all came for Ariana DeBose. I couldn't believe there weren't more people. She did like one of the words that her singing was good. But it was one of those things where thank God I had the captions on because I had no idea what she was saying. She was talking about everybody's names and they kept cutting to the person. It was literally Ariana DeBose 2.0. I think Ariana's was better. All about like stage names and I honestly didn't understand it. And I just feel like have we learned quite literally nothing. But and a lot of her like sketches were annoying and like very hosty. But good like inoffensive and inoffensive. So the thing about the Sag Awards it's like it's very insider. So they do that thing at the beginning which I adore which is they cut to a couple of

24:49different actors. They tell a funny story. And then they ended with I am an actor. They had Kristen Wigg. They had Kate Hudson. I like I really like that stick. It's like very funny and it's well written. I feel like it's like SNLE vibes. But a lot of the event feels like very insider because it's like for Hollywood people. It's really like it's televised. But I feel like up until recently like it's not for the audience. It's for like the industry. Yeah. So a lot of it just felt like they were all having so much fun like with each other. I'm like, I'm watching this. But I feel like the production level was really there. And I appreciated like Netflix's first stab at an award show. I would not I don't think I have Kristen Bell hosted again. I think that last year she did it and it was really well received. And that was before it became the actor awards like the the rebrand. So I think they wanted like for continuity to help people understand. But I do think they could try someone new. Yeah. They had like a ping-pong tournament with Ted Danson. Like it was really silly. Understood. And Dax Shepard wasn't there

25:52because he was getting a colonoscopy. Like one thing about Dax Shepard is he's going to make everything about himself. And I love that. Yeah. He posted like a text from I guess this doctor about like his schedule. Schedule. Just to prove why he wasn't there as if there was not like trouble in paradise, which I don't think anyone. I don't think there is. But that is weird. It's a big night for your wife. Like move your colonoscopy. They're pretty routine, right? Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. You're like you're a big star. Like I'm sure you get preference in your colonoscopy office. The award for I think supporting actress in a comedy show did go to Catherine O'Hara posthumously. Oh. Which was really sweet. Everybody stood up and she is in the studio, which is the Seth Rogen show, which kind of swept Seth one. And then he was the one who accepted the award on Catherine's behalf. And I don't like love Seth Rogen. And I felt like he was not the right person to accept it. But he did give a really lovely speech about like the last couple of months. And this is like the last project she worked on. I mean, how to honor her legacy.

26:53So I actually, I wanted to be a hater, but it was very sweet. His show swept. I haven't seen the show. It kind of made me want to see it because I didn't realize Catherine O'Hara was in a much like synthetic review. I didn't know that was happening. Do you want to hear the other winner? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the big outstanding performance by casting a motion picture. So best picture went to sinners. Yes. sinners has kind of been like snubbed. Has it snubbed. But like, I don't know anything about sinners. Like, seriously, not one thing except like Michael, be Jordan Haley's time filter in it. Yeah, Michael, be Jordan. It's very like parent-trappy place like himself twice, you know? And then someone sent me a clip. A clip. Yeah. There was a clip going on. I haven't seen the movie except I've seen a 30-second clip. And I just assumed like it's a good movie. You know, it's getting all this buzz. You just like assume it's really great. And I saw this clip that was like some of the worst writing acts. It was Haley's time. I felt like talking about getting it. No, don't. Yeah. Yeah. It was so bad. It was kind of like when Amelia Perez clips were going viral for how outrageous they were. The dial was. The giant of the giant of the penis. And it's like, that's an award winning.

27:54Literally Oscar winning song. So that was what my experience was with sinners. Now, I don't know about the rest of the movie outside of like the 30 seconds that I saw, but it did not bode well. I've heard the movie is incredible. And that Michael B. Jordan is amazing. I don't know. He keeps getting. He keeps losing context. Yeah. Right. I'll just go with context. He keeps losing to Timothy. So I'm sure he was excited. He won outstanding performance by male actor. So best actor, female actor went to Jesse Buckley for Hamnet. Then supporting male actor went to Sean Penn, one battle after another. He was not there. Supporting actress. A lot of people weren't there, by the way. Amy Madigan in weapons. The TV shows is like more. Yeah, best drama. The pit. He must have been happy to see that. No, a wily one. My boyfriend. Adam Sandler. Handsome cousin. What? We just talked about this. Sure. No, I'm just saying like he looks like Adam Sandler. Oh, handsome cousin.

28:56They're both Jewish. I thought they were actually cousins. They probably are. Yeah, like he's trace the lineage at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he looks like him. He was the craziest alpha. Like it was just a black tuxedo. Yeah, I'm sorry. This looks like Adam Sandler every time I see him. That's really generous. Adam Sandler. Because also I don't watch the show. So I'm not so familiar with this face. So when I see him, like a writing Adam Sandler. Not at all. Also, it's kind of like people felt that call last time I made it. It's the new gen Game of Thrones. Remember how Game of Thrones everybody used to show up to award shows and you'd be like seriously, who is that? They're all doctors. There's not a stitch of makeup in the show. Not a blow dry. They look like rats. If you're supposed to be on like this 12 hours shift, like the worst. When I saw something I'm like stunting, like what's his name? The blonde one. Whitaker. He was like wearing a look. I was like excuse me. Langdon was wearing a quilt. I was like, okay, slay Langdon. Like it was shocking. It was reminded me of Game of Thrones where you'd have to be like, yeah, we always have in the show again. Yeah. Because they look so glam. They all showed up and showed out. I didn't realize that like the cast was nominated. So literally everyone came. Yeah. Then the female actress in a drama,

29:57Carrie Russell, the diplomat. I don't know. Carrie Russell. I just feel like her peers love her. And that's why she won. Not that she's bad. And like the diplomat. Yeah. It's like the new scandal. Yeah. But Parker Posey was nominated for right Lotus. Yeah. Overlook. I do feel like she was overlooked a little bit. But I don't watch diplomat. I know people love it. So like don't come for me seriously. I don't give a shit about it. Yeah, right. I have no worse in this race. Leave me alone. Comedy series went to the studio. Must be super funny. I know. I kind of feel like I need to watch it. No, I don't. I just really don't like Seth Oregon. And like it's his show. He created it. He's a star. Like, I don't think I can't. It's all about Seth. Yeah. I'm good. Like I can't. So he won best male actor in a comedy series. Congrats. Female actress went to Katherine O'Hara. Male actor in a television movie or limited series. Oh, and Cooper, Adolescent. He was not there. I love a limited series. That was like Queen's Gambit. Literally the best show I've ever made. Queen's Gambit is the template for many series. Chernobyl. Chernobyl. I love a mini series. I totally agree. Anything in this

30:59day and age, a lot of things start out as mini series. And they do like second and third seasons. And it ruins them. Yeah. Like big little eyes. Yeah. Would have been like perfect. Yeah. And I know people loved it. And they would never agree with me. And no one would ever think they were like, no, you're wrong. No, season mom was amazing. Yeah. Michelle Williams dying for sex. I think she was surprised to win. I was surprised to see her there. I didn't know that was happening, much like I said, there you go. Yeah, but she's always a good, you know, she's a classic. Like she's a girl. Yeah. Michelle Williams. Oh, I caught up on love story, did you? No, I'm still logged out of Hulu when I had to read for Redhead. Okay. I just want to say I stand by what I'm what I said. And it's nice to see other people having the same experience of me. The guy who is JFK is abhorrent. He's one of the worst actors all time getting like insane accolades. No, he's not. Where did you find this guy? Because of the resemblance. And I feel like they really were like, and I was reading a Ryan Murphy interview about how they literally almost postponed the production because they could not find they wanted to nobody. He said a lot of pre-established actors wanted to play the role. And they were hellbent on finding someone new,

32:01discovering someone new. And they were watching thousands of tapes and thousands of headshots. And they finally found this guy a month before production. They had Sarah Pigeon always as Caroline. She was always as Caroline and they couldn't find Joe. Okay. And I feel like they just got really sidetracked by his looks because he really does look very similar. And I saw a clip on TikTok today from a podcast talking about it. And it was like these really like smart like theater, like people. And they had the best takes. And I was agreeing with everything they're saying. Like first of all, like JFK was that guy, right? Like he was so sure of himself. When you see him in press conferences, like he's very smart. He knows exactly who he is. And like in the show, he's giving like joke. Well, that's Ryan Murphy's fault then. But it's like they're recreating a lot of the clothing, right? Like when we saw the park fight. Yeah. It was the same. I was sending that to you because I couldn't believe that they fought in public. Oh, yeah. The first time I saw it, like I was shocked. That's insane. So it was in this episode. Okay. So they're wearing the same exact outfits. They're copying a lot of the outfits exactly, which I like. So when she walked out of her apartment in that outfit, I'm like, oh, they're about to fight in the park. Like I knew.

33:02And it's the girl in the TikTok was saying like, no, literally all the clothes are wearing him. He looks like so silly in all of us. And JFK was known for like wearing the craziest things. But he was just like effortlessly cool guy that you didn't even think twice about what he was wearing. Even though it was like nutty as hell. Like he wore his belt. His bike lock is a belt all the time. Like this guy could never. Like I'm sorry. I think he's terrible. I haven't noticed. I haven't had that experience. And I've been seeing people like I guess no one's talking about the acting everyone's just talking about like the two of them. They're talking about Caroline and and JFK themselves. Yeah. And everyone's sort of having a renaissance with them. Yeah. And that's what I was saying when I first recap the show. It's like the show is amazing because this is the most fascinating story down a rabbit hole. And weirdly enough, even though it was so big at the time, I think a lot of people myself included like don't know the lore because it's 90s. Right. So the 90s are blind spot. It was ripe for people born in the 90s. It was ripe for recreation. Yeah. And it was never going to fail, especially Sarah Pigeon is so gorgeous. Like he stinks. Sorry. We're being blinded by the fabulousness of it all. He stinks.

34:03I haven't had a baby over the weekend. Congrats. And I think that if he's coming off as a wini as you had said and you know, loser energy, you know, even like why didn't he ever break up with Daryl? Like he didn't like her. Oh, and in real life, it was so much worse. Like why did he always have to wait for her to break up with him? I couldn't just like take a stand. Also, he's like leading on Darlin for like two years. And it's worse than that. You know, like make a choice. But that if that's what happened, like that's not on the actor in real life. You add to the part with the letter, right? What letter? Somebody leaves a letter in his bag at football. No. What the hell have you watched? I mean episodes. Great episodes. And then they got locked out. Talk to Luke. Okay. Well, in real in the real world, he got the letter confronted her with it, like in public at a restaurant through and at her. And then they broke up for a year. And in that year, he got back with Daryl Hanna. Like this is the man. But you keep saying he was that guy. So, so, but like he did those things. Yeah. And because you only guys like that can do that. And get away with it and still be a hard rock. Those like famous face in the world. You can't walk

35:04out of your apartment without paparazzi. We don't, nothing like we ever seen. And you're fighting in public. Also, I want to say one more thing. Are you following Jack Schlossberg? He's like running for Congress now. I feel like he's like, he's like, um, kind of running with the momentum of the show. It's the time is so on. It's intentional. It's intense. No, it's intentional. Like there's a resurgence of people like, oh, my God, that was such a better time. I wish we had the Kennedy dynasty. And he's running for Congress. And like, I'm seeing all these videos of him. He's like, hosting mean great set like diners with real New Yorkers or whatever. And like it's giving cringe. That's really crazy. Also was JFK. Like is the insinuation that he was like going to run for president one day? You have to watch the show. I can't talk to you. I don't really like, like the thing is I don't mind the spoilers. So the thing is we never, we'll never know, right? Because he spoiler alert passed away. But yeah, he was on the check AEG law school, yeah, even though in the show, when he asks her to marry him, she doesn't give an answer yet. And she was like, I need to know what I'm getting. You're so spur of the moment. I need to know, like, do you plan on running for president one day? And he says no.

36:08That's like, you can't say yes. Really? Like, she was like, I need to like, if you say it, then I won't come true. Right, right, right. Can't tell anyone. But I don't know. I wasn't alive during that time. So I don't know like how, because the show was like a 10 year period. So I don't know, like, when he died, like, what his situation was. Yeah. And I was just thinking just because like, your dad was president doesn't mean like, we haven't had anyone except for know the bushes. That was like an era. It was the Bush era too, like where kind of America was obsessed with dynasties. We were like, we were ready to elect someone's son. Right. George H. Dubs. Well, George Dubs. It's the only one. Yeah, but it was like in the era of the Kennedys and the bushes. The bushes are, I feel like, are only remaining dynasties. And then Jeb. Jeb. Jeb Bush? Jeb. Of course. Yeah, we forget about the bushes, but forget about Jeb. They're like a kin most to the Kennedys kind of where there's like Lauren Bush, Lauren, Lauren. Yeah. Is that who that is? Yeah. She married Ralph Lauren son, David Lauren, and her name is Lauren

37:12Bush. She's not Jen, but we thought I thought she was Jenna's sister, but she's not, but she is a Bush. Okay. Barbara, you know, they're everywhere. Barbara. I don't know another family like that. A live right now is Lauren Bush related to President Bush. Yes. Yes, she is. There's also another Bush brother, but I feel like he's kind of a loser like nobody does his name. That could be Lauren Bush's dad. Oh, so I wouldn't know. But like, you know, he probably has an inner piece. And I just was like, Jeb. Kid, you're such an epa, baby. And I feel like they're leading with that. Yeah. They're like, but I mean more so like in his attitude, right? Like, I don't know who I am. Like more than just my family. Living in the shadow. Right. There's a great man. Seriously, there's no way to not be living in the shadow. Yeah. You know, but that was back when America like lived for nepotism. You know, those are the days. Yeah. Now it's like a curse, like a scarlet letter. Yeah. People hide their parents. Like,

38:12you're not allowed to talk about it. Get an interview, Ben Platt. But I think we should judge the man. All right. Great. What about that? Beautiful. Nepo or not. Nepo. To Nepo or not to Nepo. That is a question. Are you ready for our next story? Oh my god, it's only our second story. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Um, Harry Styles opened the Brit Awards with a performance of aperture and the Brit Awards were this weekend. Yes. The Brit Awards. Like, I don't live in Britain. So like, I don't understand their significance. But it's a kin to the Grammys. It's like a really big deal. I saw a bunch of news. I saw Olivia Dean performing a saw somber performing. Like, it was very like the same sort of people. Also, how come I had to find out for myself and no one told me that Olivia Dean has a song called Love You Bye. Okay. Love you. Bye. Didn't mean to pick a fight. That's so true. Like, that's my theme song. I don't think I knew that that was the name of the song. I just thought it was like a lyric. No, it's love you. Bye. Yeah. Like, if you had Raya, that would be the song that plays on your or I guess like my space. Um, so yes, the Brit Awards were this weekend. Harry Styles opened the

39:13show with the performance of his flop song, aperture. And I'm kidding. Oh, and also we need to talk about so funny. Harry Styles went on royal court. Yes. So, so sending up two questions that we have from last week. Where is Harry Styles? Why is he doing press? And what is his Britney Bruce show? Apparently, it's like very popular with Gen Z. And I was like showing my age by not knowing it. I hadn't heard of it literally until two days later, Harry Styles, they have like a relationship. She's like a very public number one fan. And they've met a couple of times. I think he likes a lot of her content. He thinks she's very funny. And so when it came time for him to leave the house and do press somewhere safe, he went to royal court and he talked about his hair plugs. So you know, there's been like, it's pretty much confirmed that he got plugs because a couple of years ago, his hairline was like very much receding on the sides. Um, then he had like a buzz era, which you have to have when you get plugs, you have to buzz your hair. He was wearing a lot of hats. And then he returned with like a perfectly straight, full hairline. So it's like confirmed. We don't even like need him to talk about it. Um, he was doing the interview with Britney and she was like, are those your real teeth or something like as a joke, he didn't wasn't expected to answer.

40:15And he was like, yeah, this hairline though. Um, just pretty much confirming that like he got plugs, which I love like normalize like getting plugs. No, I feel like that's why he doesn't, he wasn't doing press because it's like the timeline of the plugs. It's like the plugs have been settled now for like two or three years. When you do these shows, like you really do have to like be authentic. You can't like come on and with a new head of hair and like not talk about it. I understand why like maybe he's like, that's not for me. And the thing is like, I don't need to know that Harry Styles got hair plugs confirmed. It's sort of ruins the mystique. Yeah. I just feel like a lot of like, you can say, Oh, no, he's supernatural. His hairline just grew back. So when Harry Styles performed at the Bret Awards, I saw the comments and it was all like, Oh, sorry, Benson Boone, your time is over. I feel like in the time that Harry has been gone, a lot of like male pop divas like have sort of come on the scene. Benson Boone being one of them, somber being one of them, role model being one of them. And I do feel like there isn't, you know, we say with the pop divas, like there's room for them all for the male pop divas, like there's actually not. No, there can only be so many. And I feel like Harry's kind of like

41:17on the ball. So it's asked a little bit. He is a little bit. And that's like the aperture. And that's why he had to like kind of debase himself at the Brits by doing a TikTok dance. Now, this is the thing that I've seen a lot that's really pissing me off. That like, you know, a key way to get your song off the ground is to have a viral dance go along with it. And then you can't really manufacture that. It just happens when it happens. There's no rhyme or reason why a song gets chosen. It's literally a teenage girl in her room doing the dance and it takes off. Like it's really very natural. A little bit though you can manufacture it when you're a big enough artist. So now I see big artists manufacturing. Like Taylor. And it's so cringe. So when Taylor think that was not a good one hundred on the land. That one when I watched the music video, I was like, Oh, she's manufacturing a TikTok dance. It's a perfect time. It was like 11 seconds. It was the best part of the song. It's three girls dancing. Like it was so obvious to me that it was trying to be manufactured. Now it took off hugely that it's not embarrassing or cringe because it worked. When I saw Harry on the words doing like a dance that he's never done, I was like, okay, trying to be on TikTok of course. Like me recreating the Harry Styles dance and then like

42:22it just becomes a thing because the song didn't take off on TikTok. That's what I was saying last week. And in this day and age for this genre of music and this generation of people listening, like if your song doesn't take off on TikTok, your song doesn't take off period. But it could have taken off in another way with a different trend of life. Of course, but he's trying the dance. And that's like the most effective way. Yeah. Well, this is like a second stab by reality. The first one could have, you know, days he didn't have a dance and it's all over TikTok. Justin Bieber. Yeah. Yes. That is true. But it was all over TikTok. You have to be on TikTok. I'm saying like there are ways to do it outside of a dance. Dancing is the most obvious. Yeah. And now he's doing that. When I saw, honestly, when I saw the little clip of him dancing, like I didn't feel red flags. Like I thought he was just having fun. Oh no, to me, it was so manufactured by reality. And to me, I like really, I don't know why I feel like he's very um scrupled. Like above that. And just above doing things that he doesn't want to do,

43:23putting out music, he doesn't want to put it out. Because if he was, like he would say in one direction, like, you know, be part of that. Yeah, I'm sure they would love that. I feel like he's very scrupled in his artisticness and like, no one can be like, how are you? Have to do this? Right. You won't get played on the radio. He's like, so I won't get played on the radio. So when I see him like doing something silly goofy, I'm like, oh, he felt silly goofy. Okay. So that's interesting. I think that also. And I think that's why like he released this random song with like this random cover art and this confusing album cover and did press from his couch. And then I feel like the result didn't yield. Okay, we, I think he was used to like before he took his big break. Like he could have done anything and he didn't have to try. It was just popular. Like Taylor Swift level. Like you could release anything without any promo. And then he released this big song and it didn't have the legs. And so now I feel like he's like, okay, I'll listen to the marketing. I'll turn it at measures. Yeah. This is my theory on this all. I agree with you. That's how it feels. And I just want to say like I kind of like that because I feel like this happens to women all the time. And they like can never take a breath. And he thinks he can just like never take a breath. You want to be in the pop diva space. Like you think you can

44:25phone it in. They never phone it. Oh my God. Zara Larson's out here, like working harder than anyone in this business to get herself out of the KS Island. Everyone. Yeah. Everyone. And they talk all the time about how like they, it ruins their lives that they can't take break. Yeah. They can't have like normal relationships. They can't get pregnant because like the time that it were to require you to take off is you're, you're forgotten about, especially after you turn 30. Mm-hmm. As Taylor very pointly pointed out in her documentary. So I'm just glad that it's equal for all genders. Agreed. Based on gender. Exactly. Based on gender. Um, so that's the bridge of war. Yeah. Yeah. Next Tom Holland and Zendaya are married says her stylist law roach. So law roach revealed on the actor's words red carpet that the wedding has already happened. You missed it. The reporter said is that true to which roach laughed and confirmed it's very true. Now everyone's like, I can't believe law would go behind Zendaya's back until one thing about law roach when he says something about Zendaya, it's been cleared. Yeah. Zendaya doesn't give a fuck about the public. Like that's why she's so cool. Like, and that's why she was able to get married

45:27without anyone knowing. Like she doesn't do it for the fans. She's in love with her man. And like that's all that matters. So um, the fact that law shared it like Zendaya probably just like wanted it out in like the least big deal of a way. Like if she didn't interview like, no, just law telling everyone her business or her law had a falling out. And this is why I'm getting back at her or they're not married. Law's joking. And he's throwing the scent off. Now people won't be on wedding watch. Because now like, is he joking? It's kind of joking. The thing about Zendaya, like I said, she doesn't give a fuck. Like she wouldn't come up with a plan to divert the public, you know? Yeah. She doesn't care about the public. Unless they just got married like very, it's not like there was a big wedding. His family, her family, and law. And she needed a dress. So she has law. Yeah. Yeah. Well, regardless. I believe that they're married. And I believe that this is her way of announcing it in like a not big deal type of way. Because she's not like a big deal type of girl. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. I love people who like love being private, you know? And like everybody says they want their privacy.

46:28And then they go get paparazzi. When, you know, the big ones Zendaya, Zendaya included, has proven that you can get away with not being paparazzi. I don't see paparazzi pictures of Beyoncé. Mm-hmm. And when I see paparazzi pictures of Taylor Swift, it's because she wants us to. Because she had a, I don't feel like all of them. In New York, like you can't get away with it. No, but like when she's always getting on her plane, like she didn't call them there. No, but the umbrellas. Like you can hide. Oh my god. But it's like so, they still get her through the umbrellas. Like no, no, they get her feet. Like Lurie and her purse. It's a certain point she can walk from her car to the plane without umbrellas. And it does mean she doesn't want privacy. Okay, but like the plane could be in the hanger. And she could board on the hanger. Like I'm just saying, like she wanted to be seen. I don't. She wanted people to know she was leaving ex-destination. Like there's a reason. But they saw her, they know, they track her plane. But Taylor flies all the time and we don't see all the pictures. She wants us to know. You think she called them to the airport? No, I think she knows that they're always going to be there. So if she wanted to get away unscathed, like she, you know, boards in the hanger, that's what those hangers are for, you know. And you know, I tell her, actually owns a couple of hangers. It's like a little business side venture of hers. Yeah. Your Nashville. I feel like I was up to say a lot. You can evade public pop rots. You can

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52:48loves Pink and they're crossing their fingers that she's the one for NBC. So I want to say I think this is a bad call all around. Okay. And I'm obviously protective of Kelly's time slot. So maybe that's that. But the thing that was so great about Kelly and I think by the show she was so open to doing it is when the time came, like she really wasn't actively touring. And so it's, you know, you crave a job that will give you stability. You know, she's a mom of two with Pink. She's almost always on the road and this job does not lend itself and she's a very successful touring artist. This job doesn't lend itself to doing other things outside of it. It's very full-time. Also, I think what's underrated about Kelly and people don't even really ever, I think, acknowledges and that's why she's so good for the job is daytime is very, it's fun, right? It's like filler. It's not filler. It's not like, you know, you're not having like hard conversations. And it's hard for it's fluff. It's hard for someone to walk the line in this day and age without getting political. And that's why like literally everyone loves Kelly Clarkson. Like I think that she's

53:50very joyful. She's very uplifting in a time when people need that and she's not talking about literally anything that's going on outside of her show and it's kind of like an escape for people. And there's very, very, very few people who can do that without getting shit, right? Like, you're not political. It's a privilege to not be political. But for some reason, Kelly just sort of gets away with it and I think it actually benefits her in this particular job. Pink for years is like very outspoken about a lot of different issues. I think that she wouldn't be able to maintain that level of escapism for people. Now, some people crave that in a daytime show where they're looking for more hard news or hot takes. But with Kelly's audience, I think they've really come to appreciate that it's just fun. We're singing. We're talking other girls. We're talking about motherhood. Like we're not talking about anything that high level or deep. And I think that the audience might not take to Pink's totally opposite approach that Pink was one of the first people in the industry talking about politics. Before now, everyone does. But very much in the shut up and sing era of American music, she was one of the first. I don't think she would change

54:55that. I would think of them more from a music and career standpoint. I think they're in the exact same style. A great career. And they both make music that I love. To me, they are sort of similar. But I agree with you in thinking about it. Pink is more divisive. And she said divisive things, not even like back in the day when like she was, you know, a troubled teen. But like just reason she has a bad ass. And she's always like, if you don't like this, don't listen to my music. Like, you know, which isn't someone who's for everyone all the time. So I agree with you. I imagine she wouldn't bring on the same philosophy to this show. But I also think Pink's going to pink. She's very scrupled and she's not going to like shut her mouth. Just to take a job job. Agreed. I can't imagine that she wants this job. I don't know. I feel like this is just like a rumor. Yeah. She's such a successful story. I'm like back in the day. She was like one of the girlies. And she was like the bad seed, right? Right. No, she was like had short hair and tattoos. And now she ends, you know, singing like about how she's not like Jessica Simpson. And now she's the one

55:59who's America sweetheart. It's crazy. Because you know what? The cream rises. Like say when you want to have a pink, she is so fucking talented. And her music is so good. She never whine. I, I know. No, I know what I'm saying. Like when you look at it, like sort of at a glance, like why did she make it? She's still of all those pop girlies. She's really the only one who's still touring. But it's also about, it's not just the music. It's head on her shoulders. She is very headstrong. And she's like the only one who didn't like lose her mind. It's so true. She never went through like a bad era because she was always this like bad gal. But it was very like it was manufactured. It was like an image like she herself has always been like very true to herself. Very good head on her shoulders. Very smart. And it's true. Like when you think of that era that she came from, she's sort of the last one standing. Yeah. And like she was very tough. And I think like no one like she was able to make it through that very hard time. Whereas everyone else like sort of was manipulated and didn't not lost in the sauce. Lost in the sauce. And they're back. Yeah, of course. You know, but it like it. She never wavered. It took a toll. Kind of sounds like the

57:01way we're describing it. Like she would make an amazing talk show host. But and I actually agree that she would make an amazing talk show host. But we're talking about filling the Kelly's lot. And like, not this. And maybe she's just filling Kelly's son. It's the pink show. And you're going to get some hot takes. And but she's not the next Kelly because Kelly is for everyone. You couldn't. And I, it's not like I know anyone who would say like I hate pink. But I think if they heard some of the things that she said, they'd be like, Oh, oh, yeah, right. That doesn't, that doesn't represent me. That's the cost of like being a person with a lot of opinions that you share. Yeah. And I think pink knows that and she kind of prides herself on that. Being like, well, if you don't agree with me, like you don't listen to my music, you have to come to my show. Whereas like Kelly has always been for everyone. Yeah. So it's a very, I feel like we talk about it a lot in like a more joking way with Jimmy Fallon. Like he kind of is for everyone because he just sort of like goes with the flow and say what you want. Maybe that makes him unsuable. But it does make him successful. And I think he has like, you know, a good cue score because of it. Like he doesn't really wade where other people do. And maybe he's not having the most like intellectual monologues. You know, who might be good for this? Let me think.

58:05It's like, she might also be terrible. Who? But she might be good. Who? Katie Perry. Wow. I mean, I'm down to try. You know what? Like she loves to be loved. And she loves to be loved. Like, be out there. And she has so much energy. Like, maybe she needs to channel it. Does it have to be a pop star? Like, no, but if we're thinking of like the next Kelly Clarkson. And Katie is obviously not as loved as Kelly. But like, she needs to do something with all that energy. And I think a huge part of the show's success is the musical element of it. Like the Kelly Yoke. Katie Yoke. And I guess like Kelly Clarkson like owns the show. So like whoever she picks, like, it's like, Barbara Walters invented the view. And like, she still is caching checks to this day. I think that if they take on the format of Kelly show, like she'll still be a part of it, which she should be. But yeah, the musical element, it doesn't have to be a pop star, but the musical element was something nobody else had done on TV before. And I think it really helped with the success, especially catering for a young audience. Like the Kelly Yoke is like going so viral and people like being put on to Kelly for the first time through her show. I think also a logical choice that people would

59:07think about is Carrie Underwood. Oh, but Carrie Underwood is, we're doing American Idol. Well, that ends. She's similar to Pink, but just sort of on the opposite side. She's a standing track. She's a homesteading track. She performed at the inauguration. Like she is divisive also in terms of like liberals would be like, I don't want to hear Carrie Underwood and conservatives would be like, I don't want to hear Pink. I think liberals and conservatives, they all agree. Kelly Clarkson in America, sweetheart. Yeah. And we can, she's the Venn diagram. She's a circle. And that's why I think daytime sort of like fell into this tough spot because everything's very political right now. And daytime was always supposed to not be. And Kelly's sort of, and that's why I feel like the network's probably freaking. Like Kelly just got away with being Kelly and like just being for everyone and being like a fun place where people were coming to talk about their projects, telling funny stories and like that was it. But that's like Jennifer Hudson too. Yeah. Yeah. Jennifer Hudson does a really good job. And Jennifer Hudson does what I think Kelly hasn't done yet is Jennifer Hudson gets like really involved with like in like a lot of influencers go on Jennifer Hudson. Like I think they have guests on who I think maybe Kelly would

1:00:09think is like a little too low brow on like TikTokers. And I feel like in the stage, you kind of need to be open to the podcasters and the TikTokers. You know who else? I'm just gonna give Drew Barrymore. No. Oh, she does a good job. Um, Kristen Bell seems like someone of this elk of like everybody loves her. And she sings. And she sings. That's actually a really good call. Kristen Oki. That's exactly what I like. Carrie Oki. Yeah, but Carrie under one. Do you think we've already fired? That's a good. Do you think that there's enough room in their house for two talk show hosts? Kristen Bell and that shepherd. Like I think he would freak. Yeah, like those two are the most employed people. It's so true. It is so true. Everything. I would love to know they're not worth. Yeah, like watch out for them. Yeah. Oh, you could also like pluck from the podcast world. Yes, that's what I was thinking too. If you're like looking to get creative, we're not too at all. We are everybody loves us. You're seeing devil. I'm seeing Kelly Clarkson's replacement.

1:01:15I actually was not like, no, no, me either. But like it ain't me polar. She's crushing it. Why would she want to go and like, I actually don't think daytime's also a really specific format. Like not everyone thrives in like short, weird segments like overly Purdue. She's someone who's like super smiley and friendly and who people in Holly would really like. Yeah. Yeah. I think we throw not some really good options. And I would give Katie Perry a test week. I would. Yeah, she's unlikely. Here's the thing. Whatever she's going to do is going to be bananas. And it might be good bananas or terrible bananas. Whatever, come on first guest. True. Of course. Of course. She's got friends in high place. She does. Yeah, everybody loves her. Literally. Okay. I don't think it's pink. I just want to say that. Like we still have one more story. But that just felt like final. Oh, really, I knew we had another story. Is it? Let me see it. Like is it a good line or should we skip it? It's like a little tea, little tea. I know you love this person. I do. Okay. I love saying her name. I do love saying

1:02:15Shana Mochler. Shana Mochler feels like lines were crossed when it came to co-parenting with Courtney Kardashian and ex Travis Barker. So Shana Mochler went on Brittany Carton Rates podcast. Yes, we love this. He's pretty making news. They know it when reality hits. And she said that she's talking about co-parenting with Courtney. She said that she and Courtney have never had a conversation about co-parenting, uh, Travis's two kids Alabama and Landon who are Shana's children. I love you. She said, I don't think any of those women, I don't think those women have those conversations with anybody. At one point in time, I felt like it wasn't respectful. I felt at certain times it was kind of like, wow, if I had your kids, I wouldn't be doing some of the shit you're doing with my kids. I would make sure that if I was watching her children, I would have just made sure that lines weren't crossed. And I felt like there were some lines that were crossed. But it is what it is. It's happened. I think we've all moved forward from it now. She emphasized that she wouldn't rule out the possibility of sitting down with Courtney to have a conversation about their co-parenting preferences. Well, going on a podcast and talking about Courtney and co-parenting, it's not a good way to get her to sit down with you. It's not going to make it better. She admitted, I don't talk to that family. I don't like that family.

1:03:19Oh, okay. Yeah. She definitely wants to talk to you. Um, based on the limited things that I know about Travis's kids with Shana and their like parenting agreement, um, um, it's that like if Courtney was involved, like it was for lack of, just say what you want to say. Like I don't know many kids that live full-time with their dad. Like that's abnormal based on, as long as both parents are alive and like, you know, functioning, it's kind of a red flag. Um, and I think like if Courtney was ever too involved, it's just because like, there was space for her to be too involved. I'm not going to crack on her. I do think like sometimes like step parents over step. I don't think that's what this is being like, I'm your mama. Like it's just respectful. Like the kids have a mom. So I think you need to be really sensitive about that. I feel like the girls would know that and I feel like what she's referring to is like, I feel like these women talking about their Kardashians don't have those types of conversations because, you know, dream was like living with Chloe and like co-parenting Chloe and Rob. Um, and again,

1:04:20and I feel like in that situation, it was because there was space for Chloe to become that. Right. And I think China would admit at the time and I think she has said publicly that like, she's very grateful to the Kardashians because now she's like a healed woman and she's doing really, really well and she's full-time parenting dream. But there was a time where she couldn't because of the space that she was in and I think she actually feels very grateful to the Kardashians for stepping in at a time when she couldn't. And so Shanna sort of like, clowning on Courtney for being there when it seems like Shanna wasn't like, shut your mouth. Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like the girls are what being criticized for being like overly parental to all the children in their life. I feel like they only do that when there is something missing. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know her going on a podcast like with Brittany Cartwright to talk shit like about the woman whose house Alabama lives in like, Alabama fucking loves Courtney. I know in like Courtney, I mean people like knock it, but she's motherhood is so important to her parenthood. Also, she's talked so much about a blended family and like, step parenthood,

1:05:20I can't imagine just knowing like the characters in this situation and like what their values are. What we can know from and just being fans like, I imagine she tries to do right back. Obviously. And I think more typically when we talk about blended families, it's, you know, kids who come over every other weekend, right? Like, it's not always both parents, the mom and the dad who are getting remarried, have custody of the kids unless someone's like widowed or whatever. So I think that like the way we think about blended families, I don't often think about it like this. And I feel like the things we've heard over the years about like Shana as, you know, a parent. I don't really know anything. It's always like been implied that she's just not not as present. Yeah. So it's like now you're going on a podcast to talk shit about the woman who literally built a house so that there was rooms for your kids like, like seriously fuck off. Yeah. It's, it's really rude. And then like, I don't know, the Nate and just going on a podcast. Yeah. And it's time to like your memoirs. It's like someone else out in your own pod. Agreed. Like the nature of this conversation puts me off even more

1:06:22to like being team Courtney. Yeah. Yeah. Um, team Courtney. So that's our show. Thank you so much for listening. That's a wrap for today. Thank you so much for listening to the rest of it. I want to show it to the rest of the 13's and everybody's ready to do so. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please. Talented we are love ya. Bye