
950: Dell's Big Bet on AI and the Future of Energy | with David Holmes
About this episode
David Holmes has spent decades at the intersection of energy and technology, giving him a front-row seat to one of the biggest shifts our industry has ever faced.
As Global Industries CTO at Dell Technologies, he works with utilities, hyperscalers, developers, and data center operators who are all asking the same question: how do we power the rapid growth of AI?
But David argues that's only half the story.
The bigger opportunity is using AI to make our energy system itself more intelligent. From flexible compute and workload orchestration to long-duration storage, demand response, and the idea of "maximizing every electron," this conversation explores how the relationship between electricity and compute is being fundamentally rewritten.
Along the way, David explains why energy has become a board-level conversation inside technology companies, why decades of conventional data center thinking are being challenged, and why the next generation of infrastructure may be defined less by building more generation than by making better use of what we already have.
Expect to Learn:
🔹 Why energy has become a strategic issue in boardrooms across the technology industry
🔹 The difference between Energy for AI and AI for Energy and why both matter
🔹 What "energy-aware compute" means and how workload orchestration could reshape grid operations
🔹 Why flexible loads may become one of the grid's most valuable assets
🔹 How long-duration storage, behind-the-meter generation, and demand response fit into the future of AI infrastructure
🔹 Why David believes we should focus on maximizing every electron, not simply generating more of them
Nico and David also get into flow batteries, tokens per watt, and why everything Dell learned about data centers over four decades suddenly stopped being useful.
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