99% of the Epstein Files Are Still Hidden — And Trump Just Made It Worse w/ Jim Acosta

It's another day that ends and why and Donald Trump's cover up in the Epstein files controversy.

Trump boldly stated that he is not a rapist and not a pedophile over the weekend during

an interview on 60 minutes.

Let's discuss with Terrapal Mary, the author of the Red Letter, Substack, and host on YouTube

Substack and wherever you get your podcast.

Terrapal, great to see you.

Thanks for having me, Jim.

It's good to see you too.

After we bumped into each other a few times this weekend in Washington, I apologize.

I have the hiccups a little bit and it's, oh goodness, this is what happens when you try

to power through the White House Correspondence Weekend and can walk you later.

That's okay.

Take sips of water.

If you need it, I mean, I know the feeling, I call it the hangover after the dinner and

it lasts for several days.

I will tell you after everything that went on this week and it was a hell of a weekend.

I know a lot of people are still processing what took place Saturday night at the White

House Correspondence dinner.

And I'll tell you, I think that this moment on 60 minutes with Trump when he was asked

about the manifesto allegedly written by the shooter at the White House Correspondence

dinner.

I thought this was a huge moment, you know, Neurodontal asked him about this and how

the manifesto appears to reference the Epstein files and that whole controversy and saga

and so on.

Let's play that and talk about it on the other side, unanimous of the water.

So called manifesto is a stunning thing to read, Mr. President.

He appears to reference a motive in it.

He writes this quote, administration officials, they are targets and he also wrote this.

I'm no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his

crimes.

What's your reaction to that?

Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would because you're your

horrible people, horrible people.

Yeah, he did write that.

I'm not a rapist.

I didn't rape anybody.

I'm not a pedophile.

I'm not a pedophile.

Excuse me.

I'm not a pedophile.

You read that crap from some sick person.

I got associated with all stuff that has nothing to do with me.

I was totally exonerated.

Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's

say, Epstein or other things.

But I said to myself, you know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably, I read

the manifesto.

You know, he's a sick person.

But you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I thought this was extraordinary

that he would just come out and say, I am not a rapist.

I am not a pedophile.

I mean, she did not ask him that question.

And like when you got to say it, you know, come on, man, I mean, it's true.

She said, Oh, you think he's referring to you?

He could have said like, you know, who are you talking about or that was a man that

went into a ballroom ready to shoot up the entire cabinet and myself.

You know, do how are we supposed to take his words that there's so many ways you could

answer that.

But it feels like that's something that he has been holding on to for a long time.

And it does remind me of, you know, when Bill Clinton denied having an affair with White

House intern Monica Lewinsky said, I did not have sexual relations with that woman,

Miss Lewinsky.

And you made that, that comment during a press conference and it was a proclamation.

Like when you make a comment like that, that lives on forever in infamy.

No question about it.

And when he says I was exonerated, in what way was he exonerated?

That's, that's not true either as far as I can tell Tara, he has not been exonerated.

And in the E. Jean Carroll case, there was a judge who found him liable for sexual abuse

who said he, he was liable for sexual abuse.

I know that you have to be very legalistic in describing it, but he has not been exonerated

in any of this.

Right.

No, I mean, there's more than 30 women who have accused him of sexual harassment.

I mean, he denies all of it some, and so, you know, he's been saying that for a while

that the Epstein Biles prove that he's exonerated it.

I think the Epstein Biles have just raised more questions rather than anything else because

you see that so much of this has not really been followed up with.

We know that 2.5 million files are still in the hands of the FBI, and we know that they

spent a whole month trying to scrub his name from the files back in the spring to comply

with a Bloomberg Freedom of Information request.

Right.

So, you know, and we know that people are leading the Department of Justice.

We've got, you know, we had Pambani, now we've got Todd Blanch, who basically acted as

his personal attorney, and was, like, feeding Golan Maxwell lines that would exonerate Trump

and others.

Right.

Yeah.

And I, you know, I'm just wondering, I just wonder where this is going to head.

You know, our friend Katie Feng, she just filed a lawsuit today, going after Todd Blanch,

using the administration of not complying with the Epstein Biles Compliance Act, and, you

know, we'll be talking to Katie Feng later on in the show, but it seems to me they have

gone out of their way to not release all of the files.

And as far as we stand right now, Terry, correct, it's correct me if I'm wrong.

We still have not seen all of the files, all of the files have not been released.

No, we've seen, like, one percent, we've seen one percent of the files if you look at

internal emails within the FBI, and they talk about having 40 terabytes of files.

We've only seen 300 gigabytes.

Yeah.

That's, that's a huge difference for anyone who's not a total data nerd.

I'm certainly not, once I looked into it, I was like, whoa, and most of that is probably

video.

Yeah.

Well, the other thing we should talk about, Terry, just very quickly is, you know, over

the weekend.

Of course, there was the shooting at the White House correspondent's dinner.

I'm going to talk about that with Frank Figlussi, the former top FBI agent, just a few minutes.

But there was also what took place over at the substack party.

I guess we kind of made the news.

I made the news.

I won't lose you into this, but I kind of made the news a little bit.

There was this online troll.

I think he calls himself a journalist, a Michael Tracy.

And he showed up at the substack party, and he was, I saw this personally.

He was harassing the investigative journalist, Julie K. Brown, who has done a lot of reporting,

a lot of incredible reporting as a you on the Epstein files.

And he was in her face and harassing her and not really letting her get away from him.

And so I stepped in and said, hey, man, you got to get out of here, leave her alone.

He and I kind of got into it and substack security removed him from the party, thank goodness.

But you were telling, you were putting this out on X earlier in the day, on Twitter earlier

in the day, that Tracy was showing up at some vigil for Virginia Jufre.

That was being held in Washington.

We have a little bit of that video that we can show.

And you tweeted this out.

And I guess let's watch a little bit of this here.

But I remember, I think Michael Tracy showed up at this press conference that the Epstein

survivors had up on the Capitol a while back before the release of the Epstein files when

that got passed.

And he does this.

I guess he was showing up at this Virginia Jufre Memorial on Saturday.

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I kind of want to delve into this.

I don't know what is going on with this guy.

Why does he seem to bother these folks?

It's really horrible.

He was shoving his camera in the faces of the survivors in Capitol Hill that first time

basically saying, you know, you're not real victims, some of you because you were over

the age of 18 when you were trafficked, like, you know, those kinds of things.

He took even started following me around with the camera at the Capitol Hill when they

were fighting for the Epstein Transparency Act and really pictures and put them on his

feet.

His very bizarre.

And, you know, Julie had a really rough day.

She knew Virginia really well.

She was there at the memorial like I was, excuse me.

And, you know, it was, she worked very closely with Jeff, with Virginia and she didn't even

know Michael Tracy was.

I mean, she knew who he was, but I pointed him out to her because she didn't recognize

him.

She wasn't in there trying to get into a confrontation with anyone.

He was just targeting her clearly from what you've told me because Julie's just, she's

not like that.

And I think it's really sad that that happened to her, but he's, we've all been completely

mystified by this person, why he would have so much contempt for survivors of sexual

abuse.

I mean, he's called me a collaborator of Virginia Dufre as if that was, you know, a bad

thing because I, you know, was a reporter who went around the country trying to cooperate

her story of abuse, which so many people for so many years said was completely false and

denied and called her a teen whore and prostitute and all these things.

And it turns out, she was, she was selling the truth.

And so, you know, I was, I was with her and he used that against me and attacked me.

And, you know, on Pierce Morgan show, I just asked him flat out like, why are you so passionate

about this?

Is there someone paying you because to me, it doesn't make sense to have this sort of anger

and passion that would, you know, pit you against survivors of sexual abuse?

Yeah.

I know.

You asked him that and he famously did not answer the question or infamously did not answer

the question.

I think at one point during the interview with you and Pierce, he claimed that he couldn't

hear you anymore and then Pierce would start talking and all of a sudden he could hear

Pierce again.

It's kind of anybody wants to have a good laugh, they should go find that on the internet.

It's out there.

Yeah.

And then, you know, later on that night, he's challenging me to a fight at the Hampton Inn.

And I don't know if you saw this, Tara, but the Hampton Inn was, the nice, the nice Hampton

Inn was trending on Twitter all day long yesterday, it might still be, I think it might

still be trending.

And so I, you know, Stacy was, or Tracy, whatever his name is, he was tweeting at me that

I needed to come over there and have a fight with him.

And I, of course, I never did.

I, you know, I don't know why I would bother with him and do any of that, but I retweeted

him and I said, did you at least get the free breakfast?

You know, I mean, if you're going to stay at the Hampton Inn, the waffles are, are kind

of breathtaking.

You should get, at least get a free waffle out of it, Mike, or Stacy, whatever his name

is.

Yeah.

I mean, Jim, that's just so insane that he would even want to fight you.

I mean, this is like, what is he fighting for?

I don't know.

That is the question to, what is this man fighting for?

Who is he fighting for?

Because, you know, often in life, when I think about things, and I wonder why is someone

so passionate in one way or another, usually it's about money, when it's not something

altruistic.

So I'm like, there's something, I still have the hiccups, but, no, no, that's okay.

No, I was really, like, the survivors, they walked up to me at the memorial and they

were really distressed by the fact that he showed up.

I know.

And I don't get this name for so long and he shows up there.

And so the security went up to him and it just, it caused a whole commotion and it was

supposed to be, like, a memorial for a woman who had so much courage and it was sponsored

by the women's march.

Well, I hate to talk about it because I feel like it elevates him and gives him what he

wants and so on.

But I just think it's repugnant to go after survivors of Jeffrey Epstein and Golan Maxwell

in this way and to go after the reporters.

I mean, it seems to me there's something going on here when he's going after the truth

tellers.

You know, he was calling Julie K. Brown a liar over the weekend and so on.

Julie K. Brown helped break this story and she broke aspects of it as you have.

And I just think that it's a, it's a disgraceful thing and, you know, Michael wants to apologize

to all of us.

Of course, we'd have to listen to him, but he has people in apology and he ought to pick

on people his own size.

That's the fight.

Yeah, no, I think, I think you're right.

I think this is just someone who is, I don't know what other word to use besides

deranged.

I don't know.

I don't understand it.

Yeah.

But I hope that I also just let these women have their peace.

They're honoring a woman who died, who carried so much pain in her heart from what had

happened to her, from the constant revictimization that happened to her over and over again.

Yeah.

She took her own life.

Is that not a testament to the kind of pain that the sexual assault survivors experience?

Exactly.

And also hold on to this and, and yet you want to go there and just rub this beautiful memorial,

you know, and, and apparently he still had this, he still had this, so many of them came

up and said, I never would have said anything if not for Virginia.

Yeah.

That's right.

Virginia Dufrey, I mean, she, she, I think along with Julie and yourself, I mean, Virginia

Dufrey is part of the reason why we know about all of this because she had the courage

to come forward because of her courage, other women came forward.

And I just, I would like to know, why does he troll these, these women and these survivors

and their families?

I don't get it.

It's, it's sickening to me.

And I noticed that, you know, he, you got video of him and he had like the sticker on

his pants.

He just bought some pants and he, he left the size sticker on the side of his pants.

I don't know if you saw that, but, yeah, I don't know.

I really don't get it.

You're going on there.

I don't get it, Jim, but, you know, a lot of other men who are very wealthy and prominent

men who have been accused of crimes related to Jeffree Epstein, they've also targeted the

survivors.

But he seems to have made like a, a hobby out of it or a living out of it.

Right.

So you're going to point, I mean, he does, he does write a lot about it.

I mean, he tries to take apart their stories.

So I'm sure he is making some money in the very least.

Or is he, you know, where, what is the motivation for this?

Because there are a lot of men that would surely appreciate all of the hard work he is

doing for them.

No, exactly.

And that's, and that's where we are right now.

I mean, we, we have the president of the United States on 60 minutes.

For some reason, he felt like he had to say, I'm not a pedophile, I'm not a rapist.

I don't know why he said that.

That was really strange.

And we don't have, we don't have all the answers.

We don't have all the files.

We don't have the truth.

Donald Trump, it seems to me, Todd Blanche, his defense attorneys, now the acting attorney

general, they're doing everything they can to cover up the truth.

And so, you know, they, they kicked up this controversy about Jimmy Kimmel today.

It seems almost to distract the public.

So we wouldn't talk about his disastrous interview on 60 minutes last night.

It was, that was a disastrous interview.

It was like Bill Clinton.

I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

It's exactly what it is.

You will never forget that line.

I am not a pedophile.

Like, that is exactly like that, that will be, that will go down in the history of books

that will be played, that clip will be played forever.

No question about it.

Yeah.

You go nurse your voice and your health and get better and get back at your, but great

to see as always.

Yeah.

Thank you, Jim.

And thanks for, thank you for looking out for Julie.

She is a national treasure and, you know, and so are you.

So thank you for that.

Oh, I'm not worthy.

I'm not worthy.

But Julie is.

And you're worthy.

I mean, my sense of it was, is that in, I'll just say, I was going to say this at the

end of the show and I'll say at the end of the show, I'll say it now, like, I'm sick

and tired of bullies.

Yeah.

I'm sick and tired of bullies like Donald Trump.

I think he's a bully.

I think what this Michael guy was doing over the weekend makes him a bully in America.

We're tired of bullies where this is last year was the year of the bully.

The bully made a comeback.

This is the year when the bullies, maybe they get punched in the nose.

That's the way.

Yeah.

That's how I don't know about what they're doing.

I know.

I feel for something that makes you feel uncomfortable because we're normalizing this

behavior.

We need to make it less normal for people to act like that.

Bingo.

Exactly.

All right.

I'll leave you alone.

You go rest.

And we'll do it again soon.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Bye.

Terrible Mary.

She's wonderful.

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