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Brandon Ayuk is still out there and available.
I still think that there is a good chance he ends up here.
Ben wouldn't really give a percent chance.
He said there's too much swirling around that's completely unknown,
so I said just go 50-50, and he reluctantly did.
I'd still put it it slightly higher than 50-50,
maybe like 54-46, something like that.
In part, because there is a lot swirling out there,
especially on social media,
when it comes to the reasons why Brandon Ayuk's relationship
completely deteriorated with the 49ers.
And I'm going to get to George Kiddell's explanation from his standpoint in a moment.
And I've got another explanation to get to as well.
So that's coming up in a few minutes.
But there was a pretty decent-sized trade in the NFL here today.
The Broncos traded for Miami Dolphins wide receiver, Jalen Waddle.
In exchange for first, third, and fourth-round picks in this year's draft.
That's a lot of draft capital.
They're getting a fourth-rounder back,
so really you kind of look at it and say,
all right, it's a first and a third, even though their draft positions are different.
Denver is more towards the end of the round.
They were in the final four this year.
Man, a first and third for Jalen Waddle.
I mean, look, the dude is an absolute home run threat with his speed.
There is no doubt about it.
He's missed some games here and there.
And look, you could kind of look at it and say,
the quarterbacking wasn't great with Tuha.
But you now look at a Denver Broncos roster.
I mean, that's a lot of draft capital to give up to.
Are you surprised a first and a third, basically, for Waddle?
Max, are you surprised by that?
Or not?
Yeah, a first and a third for Jalen Waddle.
It was a lot of compensation.
And it's end of the first round and end of the third round.
Still, it's a lot.
I still feel like it feels like a lot for a young receiver,
especially when you see guys around his age go for usually like a day two, day three pick.
Packaging that first is it did make me kind of raise my eyebrows a little bit like,
oh, Denver's going for it here.
Yeah, I mean, like Cortland Sutton, Jalen Waddle,
and by the way, Marvin Mimbs Jr., who has unbelievable speed and
game breaking ability as well, they resigned JK Dobbins.
They've got that, you know, the rookie from last year, R.J. Harvey.
And they brought back Julio McLaughlin, who played pretty well for them.
You know, at the end of the year, obviously, they lost Bonix for that championship game.
And that, I think, was probably the difference because let's face it,
they got one horrendous performance from Jert Stinem.
I mean, for a guy that everybody's believed in, he got his opportunity and God was he awful
in that game. And the weather had something to do with it in the second half.
But Jalen Waddle, first and a third, really, it's a lot for Jalen Waddle.
It seems like to me, but I guess it's the, you know, positioning of the Denver picks in particular.
Yeah. All right. So George Kiddell, Titan 49ers, was on the bussen with the boys podcast,
which is Taylor LaWan and Will Compton. And Will Compton was here, remembers a linebacker.
Pretty good, I think, show. I've heard some of the clips from their show
over the years. And I've seen them on that Greenberg show on ESPN. They're both pretty good.
So they had Kiddell on the show yesterday. And here's what Kiddell said about Brandon Iyuk.
Iyuk? What's the deal, man?
Oh, let's see. Speak totally freely, uninhibited.
I have no one's listening to the show. No one's listening to the show.
Driving by stadiums at 98 miles an hour.
Yeah, I don't know about that. The last time I saw Iyuk was because he was kind of at training camp,
kind of not. And then he was like in another building throughout like those first couple weeks.
And I started going out to like see him like in the weight room because he didn't go into the
locker room with the trainer anymore. So he would just go to the weight room to do his rehab.
And was this like the whole like a holdout thing he was doing?
No, this was this past year. Like he was under contract. This was the, yeah, the year after.
This was this past season. So there's no holdout or anything like that.
And I just got there and talked to him because I didn't go to meetings or anything like that.
And so I was like, I just talked to him like, hey, let him know that.
Hey, I'm your guy. Like, just like, no, I love you.
And then literally like, I started doing that call week six.
I don't really know what week it was. And then literally a week later, that story came out.
Like all the craze thiff. And then I didn't see him again.
Really? Yeah. So I don't really, I don't like,
this is like something I bring up to like John Lynch and Kyle Shane Henry often.
Like, like, that's on you guys. And I just try to be there for the players.
If there's something going on because, you know, you always want to be there for the boys.
But like, I, I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a, I don't know what's going on with Brandon.
Like, I don't know what he's thinking about or, you know, what he's thinking.
So I, I really have no idea. Yeah, it's hard.
When you see a guy struggling and you don't know all the pieces and you just want to help.
Yeah, like I just say, man, like we've played together for four years now.
Like, I love you. I love playing football with you.
How can I help? And then like, literally two days later, the article comes out.
And I don't see him again. So I'll just like, all right.
He did text me. The after I got hurt.
Did he? Yeah.
Said, thank you. Love you. Good to meet you. Thanks, dude.
Good to meet you. Yeah. So I haven't really talked to him. So like, I really don't know.
No clue.
There's been a lot in the last few days, um, about IUK situation with the 49ers.
Grant Cone, who's covered the 49ers for a while, uh, tweeted out.
Brandon IUK didn't quit on the 49ers.
They voided his guarantees and he still returned to the team from July to October,
because he wanted to play. They never cleared him.
They didn't want him to play when that was clear.
He left. He's not the bad guy.
There have been others, uh, where was the other one here that I had?
Um, Matt, my ICO, uh, NBC sports in San Francisco. Is that his name?
Matt Mayo. Yes. Yeah. Said about Brandon IUK.
They clearly think they can trade him for something.
I don't know if there is a bit of pettiness going on here.
The pettiness is very obvious to look at, but I don't think they would ruin, uh,
the franchise's reputation. Yeah. I mean, the 49ers are, are, are apparently holding on to
IUK for the hope of getting some sort of day three conditional pick,
rather than getting nothing for him.
The problem with that, and I've explained this before, is that his, his salary would convey,
his contract would convey, uh, with a trade, whereas if he got released,
you're tearing up the contract and you're creating a new one.
His current contract, just so everybody understands,
I'm just pulling it up via spot track, has him making a base salary in 2027,
of 27.3 million dollars.
And then in 2028, a base salary of 29.1 million dollars,
there is no way I don't think on God's green earth that any team is going to inherit that
contract via a trade.
It seems absurd to me.
Didn't we, um, didn't we talk about this because Bill Barnwell or somebody wrote about it
at ESPN a while back and said the idea that anybody at this point, no matter what the story is,
would trade for brand and IUK and assume that 120 million dollar deal that the 49ers paid him
for four years and have 27 million dollars on the books in, in the form of a base salary
for 2027, it's just not going to happen.
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So, you know, the reason something like that would happen is if, you know, there wasn't
crazy around labeling him right now. There wasn't a major injury that he's coming off of.
And then you've got many teams that are interested and they don't want to take the chance that
they're not the team that'll be able to sign them when he gets released. And so they're willing
to part with a pick to acquire the player and his existing contract. But that's not the case
here. Regardless of what people are saying, there's still a lot to this story. Always his side,
her side, the truth, somewhere in between, typically with these things. And, you know,
we had Dante Wittner on the show last week. He is a former player, a former 49er. He does a
podcast on the 49ers covering the 49ers with Hall of Fame linebacker Patrick Willis. And he
all but implied that Brandon Ayuk needs therapy, psychological therapy, that nobody does what he did
hand over 30 million bucks, just give it back to him. I mean, no matter what Grant Cohn says,
and I can appreciate the people that are close to it that say, look, the 49ers were a culprit in
this thing too. But all he had to do, nobody's debated that all he had to do was show up by monthly
for rehab checks from their doctors, because he did his rehab outside of the organization
to basically collect 30 million dollars and have it not contractually be able to void.
At the very least, you would say no matter how much the team may have screwed him and how much he's
hurt by the team, it's bad judgment to throw away 30 million dollars in guarantees and give them
the opportunity to void those guarantees. This is going to be a really interesting situation to see
how long the 49ers hang in there with respect to trying to get something for him.
They need an unbelievable market to develop around him for anybody to acquire that contract.
Less, they traded him and they said, we'll eat half the contract, because from what I've been
reading, Dante Wittner talked about somewhere in the neighborhood of it. I think didn't he mention
like 14 million guaranteed in a prove it deal? I've seen more in the way of six, seven,
eight million in guaranteed in the rest through incentives. He's going to get some guaranteed money
to play. He's going to get some guaranteed money to play, because if he's cut, there will be some
competition for him. So we'll see where that guaranteed money comes in, but it's not 27 million
guaranteed in base salary, 27.3 million. It's, you know, let's just call it between 7 and 12,
and then a lot of incentives that could get him up to like 30 for the year, depending on how he plays.
I just don't see the 49ers. As far as like the organization looking bad by holding on to him,
I mean, that's a matter of your perspective. Like, if your perspective is this guy really screwed
them, you can't blame them. If your perspective is they really screwed him, then it's petty. If your
perspective is the truth lies somewhere in between, I'd still come to the conclusion that nobody's
going to pay him 27 million bucks next year. You're not going to get a day three pick for him.
So let's move on, cut, you know, bait here, and who cares whether or not you're doing him a favor or
not. The bottom line is you're not going to, you know, even if he were to sign with somebody
after the draft, because they release him after the draft, after they didn't get any picks for him,
you know, on the first three days of the draft via a trade, he hasn't missed much at that point.
You know, joining a team on May 1st doesn't hurt him. Joining a team in August hurts him a little
bit. You want to be with that new team throughout the off season. We'll see. You know, remember not
that it's the same group because it's a different group. But if the 49ers believe that he's heading
to Washington, based on what happened in 2017, they, you know, that would be petty, but revenge on
some level, not at the same level. But the reason that Dan and Bruce didn't trade Kurt Cousins before
his second franchise tag year to the 49ers for a boatload of compensation, which would have been
at minimum a first rounder and a night to pick. Jay Gruden swears it was multiple first rounders.
They didn't do it because they didn't want him to reunite with the shana hands. I mean,
we got a long list of the incompetence and the stupidity and the pettiness and just the low maturity,
low IQ operation of the team. But that's near the top of the list when it comes to just pure
football. The fact that they had a guy that they were not going to be able to sign after 2017,
they weren't going to win the Super Bowl in 2017. And they could have gotten a boatload by just
trading them to the 49ers, but they wouldn't do it because they hated the shana hands so much.
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