A Decades Long Troll: Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies, it's the Tollos. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hoes. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and Happy Tuesday, yeah. You're listening to the podcast of the most interesting girl on the planet. Claude is in the news today. You are in the stories, you are the stories. Do I have a different energy? I hate this phrase but I do feel like I have main character energy right now. Do you feel like everyone's talking about me? I feel like it's my birthday the amount of people blowing out my DMs and my texts. I feel like I don't even know how many people are talking about you and we'll get into it because I saw you in page 6 this morning and I've been seeing you in my algorithm from accounts I don't follow talking about influencer quality asher being body-shamed

1:00by the new real housewife. It's such drama. Okay, I don't want to spoil it but like I did make some news yesterday I posted a TikTok. There was a lot of news in the Bravo universe and like it kind of had to do with me. So I spoke my truth, people were interested in my truth and hearing it. And we'll talk, if you aren't on TikTok, I did post it on TikTok because I was like, you know, give me just the real fans first. And so I will tell the whole story from the beginning but I don't want to talk about that right now. I just want to say like yes, you are listening to the podcast of like the girl in the news. And we will talk about the thing, you know, we're not going to skirt around it. And like how I'm feeling. Yeah, no, I would like one of my like my high school bully is like a 10 year long bullying campaign is becoming famous. I'm really excited to talk about it. I really need to dig it into this, get my teeth into it and sort of try my head around like what's going on here. Yeah, and I feel like a lot of people are going to be surprised at my take. I think we're going to wind up giving grace. No, I'm not going to give grace, but you'll say you're going to forgive her. Let's not spoil. Okay. We've so much to do today. I feel like you're going to forgive her. Um, sort of.

2:01You'll say we'll see what we'll see where the conversation goes. But yes, we'll say I'm forgiving someone who has not apologized. No, no, no, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Let's talk about you. Me. How are you? I'm good. This is for the most famous girl in the world. You know, all of you are doing something in advertising. She actually is. And Satchel. Don't get me started on that. Don't get me started on Satchel. I actually conversed with Satchel a lot yesterday because we did redheads. Oh, well, we recorded redheads. It was a great, fantastic episode. So many changes are like a brew at the redheads. Every episode is sort of like. Rejecting in the format. Sort of like when they met at the internet and like everything was just like new and different. And there was no format. That's sort of like redheads right now. We're changing everything up. It's a, it's a very exciting time to be a part of the community. I agree. Mm-hmm. And how about the gals? The gals were great. The book was fun. Lots of human Obama talk. Margot also shared at the end of the episode. But she didn't know. But she didn't know. And I don't know why I expect why she, that she would. And you know what?

3:01I'm glad we clipped that moment yesterday because the comments did make me feel less alone. Like, I like to pride myself on like being a decently smart person. Like, I know what goes on in the world. I don't like walk around with like my head. Always up my ass. And so I did feel like a little bit ashamed that I didn't know who that was. But shout out to my fellow Zillenials. Excuse me. Zillenials. You heard of him, right? From you. Like, I've heard the word unibomber. And the red light thing, right? No, what's up? I told you about this one. And we were talking about it on the episode. But it was also in the show, man, huh? Like, you know, the unibomber was like a crazy individual. Mm-hmm. However, like there are like small parts of his manifesto. You know, like technology, we should be wary. Right, right, right. We should kill people, but like, you know, I mean, you're screen time. Of course, of course. Of course. I want to say, like Jonathan Hate is kind of the unibomber of our time. Well, that's what I said in the show. I was like, that's like a nice medium of like, you know, I mean, you can have like radical thoughts on anything. You just can't kill people who disagree with you. Right, but also it's like, you can't stop progress. You can't stop technology. You're supposed to live in a stone age forever.

4:03No, that's not good. Mm-hmm. But parameters. What's red light? Which is the sting of it. There's like 200 characters on that mountain. But sometimes when frontrooms go up and down, there's a winter line looking the opposite way. The school name is Christian давing. It's still in this bridge, you know, but even when a child goes back to back and forth. Being like the stuff you remember, you won't be turning back. And then, just how do you remember that day? What he really told us. And that that summer I went to Z� 25 years ago, like, 37 year olds. He was literally in the street automotive center. He shouted, yes, delicious, me also don't want to get an accident. So even if I'm wrong, they're going to get out of my way. No, but that's not what this is. This is like, there's no reason why you can't go other than just like a red light telling you the law. But in this moment, like, you could technically go, I mean, I would never. And I don't, but when I'm like there, and I'm like, I could go, but I'm not because of this like red light. What did that have to do with the uniformer? That was like something that he was saying in the show. You know, why are you staying at the red light when you can just go like these anti government anti got it. And actually in the show, the guy who is

5:08investigating him, please, uh, you know, mom, we're in the show. Oh, someone like that we know, look, someone famous, um, he looked more like him. Hold on, you know, mom, man, hi. Cameron Grant. No, some, I don't think we know him. Okay. Oh, Richard Jewel. Remember him. No. Yes, you do. I'm on, I'm doing it in a second. Paul, that knee. Oh, my God, I forgot about Richard Jewel. I'm just, I was Richard Jewel. Show me. How do you remember that with the, um, Christmas is in manhunt? There's a couple different iterations of manhunt. Claudia, remember the movie, Richard Jewel. No. Yes, you do. It may be, I think if you think that if you keep saying it, I'll remember, but I don't. You will, Claudia. Can you show me? Yes, yes. Uh, remember he got like, of course, Richard Jewel. What was the story again? Well, they thought that he

6:12planted the bomb at the Olympics in in Georgia. And it was just a guy. And it wasn't him. Yeah. And his whole life was turned upside down. Richard Jewel. Bucking. Those are the times this kind of story is like, I love not obviously that that happened to, but like these random niche. Yeah. Oh my God. So yeah, Richard Jewel is like associated with the Obama as in just like, crazy times. Yeah. Anyways, the red heads are doing well. The red heads are doing all, but just to finish my thought in the show, the guy who's like investigating the manhunt, the unabombered, like, sort of starts to like take on his beliefs, a little bit. By the end, like, he's living out in the woods. And that's just like Hollywood, like, because that definitely didn't happen. Neuronic. Yeah. That's moronic. Yeah. Neuronic. Um, I watched a real house president. I did some crazy last night. Craig. Crazy air man. I caught up on the real house president Beverly Hills. And then I watched Watch, Watch, Rep, and Live, which was like such a lackluster episode with like, with a man of Francis, which was crazy because she actually wasn't in this week's episode of the obviously just

7:14in a program. Yeah. And then goal nested because it was the finale of Shaws. And like, the two of them are so polar opposite. Um, and even though like Amanda wasn't on the episode of Beverly Hills, it was her first time on Watch, Rep and Live. And like, she's kind of this interesting character. So there was like a lot of attention being paid turn. I feel like Gigi was like hating that shit, kept like talking about Amanda's questions. Um, but I will say it was kind of like a showing for Amanda Francis. Like, she's still like nutty and whatever, but she dressed very head on like, that people say her business is a scam. And like, all the things we kind of think about her. And like, how she walks into the room purse first, you know, I have sunscreen in my Chanel backpack. Oh, I have that bag. And she was like, I'm sorry, I thought that's what we were doing. Like, this is a show about affluent women and like these women do it all the time. Like, every time they're on TV, it's like, they show how much their purse costs. So I don't know, it was kind of a good showing for her. Like, they're more subtle about it though. Of course, she's just like tacky by nature. Um, it was just like a weird episode of Watch, Rep and Live, but I kind of liked it. Oh, and then my favorites were bartending. It was such a crazy episode. Who was that guy? A twink and a red head. You know, they're song. No, red head girl. His Instagram posts. He said that he accidentally like insulted Amanda today. Yeah.

8:21They didn't even talk like Andy never gives a bartender. I made it to speak, but he gave them a particularly small amount. I didn't realize this happened last night. I saw it this morning. He But this wasn't from last night. This one last week. Okay. So from last week, when Andy threw to the bartenders, they were like, what do you think about Amanda? And the red head's like, love you, whatever. And he's like, I've been seeing all the comments, but I think you're great. And he, he like came on and she was insulted. She like turned around. He was like, I didn't need to clock her like that. I don't even know her. No, and it's crazy because they got three seconds of airtime. I'm like, I'm so sorry. No, funny. And I really like them. Maybe like funny, you know, TikTok content. I feel like I've sent a tube before. So yeah, Watch, Watch, I'm live. I feel like that was really crazy in me. Ben was out. So I got nothing to do. I always like to watch watch what happens live. It's a little more subject material on the subject. Yes, exactly. I contextualizing the contact. Yeah. Secondary and tertiary sources. Yes. And I prefer primary sources, obviously, in the MLA format. Yes, of course. And did you give me, do you write your bibliography today? Or are you gonna give it to me tomorrow? It's pending. I am so glad I never left right another fucking bibliography. Like those were some of the

9:21like the lowest points of my entire life. I know. It's like an extra page. Like, maybe we could make it go longer. No, but like they knew. In hindsight, like, why was it so hard? There's a format. I know. You put it in the format. I know. I feel like the bibliography, like you, because I was never one who like wrote amazing essays. I feel like if you looked at my bibliography, like you could, it was kind of like a window into like how little I cared, like, and how bad the essay truly was. Like you can hide, but like the bibliography shows facts. I understood, but you should need to just like get a random text, take one piece of information inside it. And like, for a couple of random texts, and even though you got your whole paper from like one book, of course, you have a bunch of random texts. And I just don't feel like getting to lost in the minutiae of like the MLA formatted bibliography really prepared me for life in any meaningful way. What about J-Store? Remind me. Like where you would go and read like PDFs, like J-Store. Do you remember? Yes. Yes. And yeah. And you would just read like somebody's work. Like I said,

10:25some of the worst fucking times of my life, like lowest points of my life was like midnight the night before a paper was due like just getting the bibliography together. Oh, I'm chill. Just like about it. The reading is on J-Store. Yeah, good luck with that. I don't even think I had an account, you know? Like I was not participating in the readings. What is J-Store stand for? Just seriously? Coming out, like on and out. I just feel like I'm doing really well in life for like never having done a proper bibliography. Like I was always losing points on the bibliography, you know? Yeah. I feel like the bibliography wasn't my favorite, but it wasn't my least favorite. Well, the bibliography, like when you got to that point, like it was the beginning of the end. Yeah. And it's like, okay, I just have to plug in names and numbers. Like I don't have to thing, but I was somehow always doing it wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Well, now I'm sure you could do it. Yeah. Plug in my bibliography.com. No, Chad probably has its own format that would give you away in two seconds. Yeah. Like I said, sometimes when I'm like, I can't sleep, but whatever,

11:26I do think about like the fact that I'm so grateful I never have to go to school again. Like school was really just like the worst. Like homework and paper. Then you go to sleep in your back at school. I have so many dreams that I forgot that I didn't take four classes this semester. Oh yeah, my name. I'm not going to graduate on time. Yeah, my dream is that like I signed up for a class in college and like I went to the first couple of. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I went to the first couple of sessions and then like I dropped it all about it. No, I don't remember if I dropped it, if I stayed in or did I ever graduate because of that one class? No, and I never went back to some of it. It's like I dropped it, but I never picked up another class. So I will be one credit short. And some of it is I never went to class ever again. Did I do they even count me anymore? Yes. Did I submit any and how am I ever going to pass a vinyl 1000? Do I have to take the vinyl? Those are the fucking worse. And it's like today, I ever even do that that that's in my subconscious. Did I ever like drop a class? I mean, yeah, like no. And then watching Tommy Lysock didn't help, it just like brought all those feelings back. I was having dreams a lot. Yeah, no, but that's

12:29recurring. But for everyone too, when they don't know what, you know, that's like a universal. I wonder like if you didn't go to college, do you have that dream? You have it about high school. Or like whatever your most recent schooling system was. You think? I don't know. Sound off in the comments. It's like a reason to not go to college. Just to save yourself the trouble. Yeah. Sound off in the comments. If you didn't go to college, what are your nightmares about? Yeah. Love that. We have two toasters today. We have like stories about turned self. So I'm ready to dive in if you are. I'm ready without further ado to do. It is time for the fast five stories that you do need to know. And the fast five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Velvet Caviar. Now's the perfect time to refresh your tech accessories for spring. And Velvet Caviar is giving our listeners an exclusive discount to buy one, get one free. So that's right. Right now you can buy one, get one free on all their phone cases plus their matching accessories. So Velvet Caviar is one of my favorite brands. Because you know, we style our hair with style our jewelry. You just sell your phone. A lot of us need different phone accessories. Obviously a phone case to keep it safe. Yes, I have one too. I also am an influencer. And if you guys know that, so I need this like sticky item. Some people use their

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17:39So Real House is a New York and Bravo announced yesterday. The new cast members for the new season of Real Housewives of New York. Some familiar names, including Erin Leechy, Jessel Tank. We know Jessel very well here. Of course. I'm sitting next to her. Jessel. And Sai De Silva. So it seems like everyone else from previous cast, like has been Uba's Gone, Jen Alliance is gone. I forget who I don't even know. Rebecca Mankoff. Okay. So it's just these three girls from the original reboot cast. Okay. And then they've added Erica Hammond, who is a celebrity fitness trainer and friend of Claudius. She's a great casting. She's very pretty. She's very wealthy. Her husband. Oh, they're one of our sponsors. Built. Built rewards. It's like the rewards company that gives you points about paying rent. Yeah. He started that company. Actually, he's one of Ben's really good friends. They're like a very interesting couple. They're like very well-traveled. They're very, very wealthy. And she has such an interesting background. She's one of the co-founders of rumble, like the popular boxing. And she used to be the WWE. So that's the type of gal we want to see. Yeah. It's literally a perfect casting. And I knew she was going to be on the show. I found out

18:41a couple of months ago. And I thought, you know what? Hope Raiden's eternal. Oh, you knew that? I did know that. And I thought it was really a perfect casting. I didn't know that was happening. When we talk about Real Housewives of New York, we're always talking about affluent women, interesting women. And I thought, great, maybe her and some of her wealthy friends will be. And it seems like they got it right with Erica. And I genuinely don't know where they went with the rest of them. So then the other lady is Daisy Toy, who's a celebrity makeup artist. I think she does Martha Stewart. And then Haley Glassman, who is a public relations professional. And I think her claim to fame is that she used to date John Goslin. Oh, yeah. She ex-wife, I think. Oh, really? I don't know. I thought I saw ex-wife. I thought it was girlfriend, whatever. Ex-girlfriend. I was so confused. I feel like the Rony reboot, like really got it wrong. Like from the start. And they kind of refuse to acknowledge that. So I think people have been saying for years, like, please boil down the original cast to Jessel, Erin. And so I like those were the three who were most liked. And so they finally,

19:48like, listened to the fans a little bit. I don't know why they had to, like, go so random and also, like, so all over the place, right? Because like I said, Erica's the perfect person for this. Why is she on the same show as John Goslin's ex-girlfriend? Like, yeah, I'm so confused. Like, I'm so confused. But then, like, obviously, to make everything about myself, I had known Erica. And then I was curious. I didn't know the other two people. And so I was like, do a deep dive. And when I saw, I literally saw Nandu Moab before they announced it. He said, Haley Glassman. And I was like, that name sounds so familiar. Like I saw it, it didn't sound familiar. It looked familiar. Like I'd seen that name before. I was like, who the fuck? Why do I know this name? Went to Instagram. And I was like, oh, wait, I think I know. So I went to our messages. And I was like, yes, you know, we have people who like troll us professionally. And like, we know their names, that girl Megan, like, yeah. And there's not that many that I book. Yeah. There are a couple names that I'm like, this one's trouble. Yes. And I was like, oh, my God, yes. I scroll up. We must have like, well, not way. She has messaged me probably like 50 times

20:49since 2017. And the crazy thing is I noticed she unfollowed me before I made my TikTok or anything. So like she, she's done with you. She's done with me. She's been a long time fan. And she's always like trolling me. She's making mostly about my weight. She's clearly like one of these like, just weight obsessed people. She was always commenting on my weight. I think our her family owns a plastic surgery company. Like, yeah, they must because she was hashtagging Glassman plastic surgery in the DM. She was sending me messages being like, why you've lost a lot of weight when you need a neck lift. I'll find the right doctor for you. I'm like, oh, my God. Okay. Um, she was calling Ben that like her DMs to me over the court. And some of them are also really nice. I'm like, so happy for you. We got pregnant, which is true like crazy fan troll behavior. Like your biggest trolls are your biggest fans and your biggest haters. So like, that's always like very a trope. Like when you respond to like a hater who's like calling you ugly, you're like, excuse me. And they're like, I'm sorry. I love you so much. It's like a real mental disease where like you're obsessed with this person in both positive and negative extreme ways. So I was like, how is this person a real housewife? Like you've been trolling me for almost

21:5110 years. But I don't even know what to call it. Like because is she a fan or is she a hater? Like I couldn't put it together. And she's like a bit of both. Like really a bit of both. And it was reminding me of Monica from Salt Lake City, like a crazy internet troll becoming a housewife. Yeah. And I was so honestly obsessed. I'm not gonna lie. Like not this like being about me. Having to do with you. Of course, made a TikTok about it. I wasn't sure people were going to care like at all. And the TikTok blew up. It's everywhere. I just think it's really crazy because for a real housewife, like you expected it's like a dignified individual who's hopefully too busy to even be in a behavioral like this. That's not what we expect from real housewives. Like of course, it was supposed to be it's we always say it's like a very um, why can I never remember this word? Asperational. Thank you. It was being aspirational show about women who are successful, women who are wealthy, women who are fabulous, and women who we would like to be. Now obviously the show has like taken a turn in recent years, but it's very just like reality TV. So I feel

22:52a little conflicted because while like, you know, this is not the real housewives I grew up with. In this day and age, like the crazier you are, the better should TV you make. And like a really crazy, deranged person is what it takes to like be a professional troll for almost a decade. That I kind of feel like she's gonna be amazing on the show. Maybe because like those DMs were like while they speak to like some sort of wacky personality that we might make for good TV. And when we think about like the greats in terms of like the last, you know, amazing season, like we think of like the Ashley Jacobs. Like that was crazy times. Like you think of like the truly crazy people. I don't consider Ashley Jacobs one of the greats. I think that was such a fun time. I don't know. It was really dark. It was dark actually. You're right. It was really dark. I don't know. I just think like in order to be like a successful reality TV villain, you have to be like a legitimate crazy person. And I think they might have found one in her. Yeah. So people are like leaving people who are willing to just like not look so amazing all the time. People who have nothing to lose. Yeah. But but not that they're putting it on like, oh, I don't care how I look.

23:55I'm going to be the villain. It's like they seriously can't help themselves. Correct. Like very time stand up. I'm very narcissistic. So a lot of my almost all my comments are like flooded. Like I probably like fire her. I just want to say I do not want her to be fired. Like this franchise is so random and weird. Like sure. Throw in a crazy person. Like maybe that's just the thing they've been missing. Maybe everyone. Maybe everyone they've cast have been like a little too sound of mine. Yeah. Then safe. And nobody wants to like ruin their lives. So I wasn't making the TikTok like calling for her to be fired. I just want to say that please don't fire her. Like she sounds kind of interested. Like that's perfect. Yeah. Because like it's not like it's this perfect cast already. Like I don't know what's going on with the franchise and why they kind of refuse to call it. But sure. Let's throw crazy person in there. Yeah. I agree. I don't think she needs to be fired. No, don't fire her. I wonder if she'll reach out to you. Oh, sorry. She blocked me. She blocked the toast. She blocked my like personal Instagram club. I mean, I understand. Imagine she's having like a big day yesterday. And like, but the thing is like she's she's just she's just owned it. And you just like told everyone who she is. Like it's not even like she did something

24:59like like once that was like, ooh. Yeah. No, and I just want to say like I forgive you. Maybe that you have it. I'm honest. Like you understand. Yeah. No, no. I wasn't. I actually really do not want her to be fired. I don't think she's going to be. But I don't want her to be. Yeah. No, no. And now because like now I'm honestly intrigued. Yeah. Oh, and the other part of this story is that Carol Watt rads well. So they announced Carol coming back as a friend of Rony Legacy before they announced the cast. So it's like, oh, one of the new girls must be a friend of Carol. No. What the hell is she doing on the show? I don't know. And I heard that she like sued Ryan Murphy into not using her name and love story. That's why she's not in it at all. Oh, interesting. Although I will say Ryan Murphy doesn't give a fuck. Did she say what he said about Jack Schlossberg? No. Jack Schlossberg is like, you know, doing like the jazz Schlossberg is talking shit about the show. Well, so it pre it's Jack Schlossberg just did a big interview, which is why this is coming back. But when the show was announced and those paparazzi pictures got leaked, he was like, this is my family, real people. Um, and Ryan Murphy was asked about it on a podcast. And he was like,

26:04I don't really care what this person thinks like he never even met Jay. Don't have kind of junior. And now yes, Jack Schlossberg was really young. It's kind of a crazy fucking thing for Ryan to say. Um, but Ryan doesn't give a fuck. That's what I mean. So I doubt he could be intimidated by Carol Rads. So I'll like just saying. Yeah. If he wasn't intimidated by an actual Kennedy. Uh, I don't think people are intimidated by Jack. I think that's like an easy one to go after. Yes. I just want to say like Jack Schlossberg's pissing me off because like he's doing all this press um, about how bad the Kennedy show is and it's mean and yada yada. And it's like sure. Well, maybe Ryan Murphy like could have spoken to more Kennedys about it like involve them more. But he's really like riding the co-tails of this Kennedy resurgence like he has this like, like campaign for Congress. And he's like living it up dressing like JFK, doing events like JFK Jr. And the only reason people care again is because of this show. So like you're knocking it so much when you're benefiting so greatly from it. Like, well, you're just like quiet. Yeah. I am not paying that much attention, but I do feel like, and I have to watch more episodes,

27:05but I don't know. I do feel like they don't know the first thing about those two. I'm sorry. Like the more I think about the fight in the park, you're well into your 30s. You've been a public figure your entire life and you're fighting with your girlfriend. The love of your life physically in the park. Yeah. That's a crazy person. Yeah. And that's what I feel like Carolyn specifically was so private. Like, there's only like two on record interviews and they're 30 seconds long. She's just like being paparazzi. Nobody really knows her personality. So it's sort of making it up as we go. There's like a couple of biographies written about her and they all say conflicting things, mind you. So like nobody knows her. And the version of JFK that we know is like the presidential polished press version. That's not who he really was. So we're just sort of guessing and like fictionalizing which okay. Sure. But I do feel like this will be the record. What's on record about who they were? And if we don't know, it's kind of crazy to just put that out there and say this is who they were. It's kind of like how the crown represents the

28:05royal family. And I feel like they did a pretty good job. But that's how we think of that. There's so much source material on the royals. There's nothing. No. And so I think they did a pretty good job for trying everyone, given like, you know, they are an enigma. But here it's like, I don't know, not saying you shouldn't have made the show, but no. And back to Carol. Look, what is she doing on the show? As far as I know, she's not really friendly with any of the women. She'll be on Rony new, but she won't be on love story. And I was shook at the comments. People really hate Carol. They call her Carol. Carol Epstein. Oh, also, yeah. Yeah. She's like a, like, I'm going to be FF. Yeah. So it's not only does her casting make no sense. It's sort of like a controversial thing for them to have done for what? Like, for what purpose? Yeah. It doesn't make sense. About that as she's very heavily, like, she, there's a lot of, she's heavily mentioned in, in regards to Elaine. Yeah. Like, Elaine is her girl. There's a lot of emails of her and Elaine being like, I love you so much. Like, that's your girl. Yeah. It's a really crazy

29:08casting. I know that I had best friend and they were like, involved in human trafficking, that I could sniff that out. So Carol's a really crazy casting, given that and given the fact that she has no known ties to this cast. Yeah. No, it's really, but forget known ties. Like, she's downtown and like, she could throw herself in the mix, whatever. And I'm sure she's glad it's not like Bethany and the ladies who like don't like her anymore. Epstein, I'm sorry. It's really crazy. It just missed the whole point. Yeah. So this was such a weird announcement. I don't know. I don't watch her only legacy. So I don't feel like I have like a, like to stand on in terms of how the cast. So if you are like, if you watch a show, like, what do you think? Right. I don't feel like I, I don't know what's right for the show. I don't know what's right for the show, either. I can't help you guys. Like, you can't help yourselves. Yeah. Everyone's like, bring gentle lines back. I don't know. This is where I leave you again, you know? Yeah. And it feels like in the last two, three years, they've been obsessed with getting people with names, right? Like, gentle lines who contributed nothing but was a name. We're recommending off contributing nothing, but a big name. So now they're going like, maybe like the opposite, like names that you don't know,

30:10sort of like John Gosling's ex-girlfriend. Yeah, because Rebecca Minkoff doesn't want to tarnish her brand. Right. And she shouldn't. Even though I want to say Rachel Zo is proving like, you can be a big wig, a big name and contribute to a show in a really meaningful way. Yeah, but you have to be. It's a hard line to walk. Yeah. Yeah. And are you going to be on the show now with the drama? No, no, I'm not. What if they called you in and said, we, like we heard you and we want you on the show? An idea was floated to me about like a dinner and I said, no, like I, first of all, all I do is sit on the spot, I was talking about how bad the show is. And then I'm like, yeah, I'm on it. I really have no desire to be on like a Bravo show. So, um, okay, what if, okay, what if they seriously not just a dinner what they said to you, like full cast member? No, oh my god, that's worse. No, I really don't. I really don't want to be. Okay. Like I think, whenever I like read the comments of like a Bravo Liberty's Instagram, I'm like, oh my god.

31:10Yeah, you don't want to put yourself in that world. There's very high highs when it comes to being a Bravo Liberty, but like seriously, it's a very impassioned fan base and like that comes with both positives and negatives. And I seriously want a part of it. I'm really happy on my corner of the internet. Oh, so I imagine you would not ever do reality TV. But if you were to, it certainly wouldn't be Rony. No. And if it was going to be Rony, like I'd have to move to Beverly Hills. You know what I mean? Like of all the franchises, it's not going to be New York, like, uh, what do they call that one reboot legacy? I keep calling it legacy, but that's the old one. Yeah, everything's OG legacy. What's the new one? Rony. Rony reboot. Okay. Um, so yeah, I wouldn't be that. Um, Indiana. Okay. Well, that's the games begin. This is all good for Rony reboot. It is. Our next stir of worries. Jerry. Alex Earl is sobbing over Taylor Swift's song after seeing Braxton for the first time since their breakup. So Alex posted a TikTok of herself sobbing in reaction to a fans comment about her video last week in which she spoke about seeing Braxton for

32:11the first time since their breakup last year. In the original video, she admitted it was really hard and really weird to see him again. She said it was really emotional the first night. We were like in the same place, but we didn't say hi to each other just because I didn't want to like go up and annoy him. I don't know that they eventually briefly greeted one another on the second night of the event. It's weird when you go from someone being like your best friend to being a stranger in the corner of the room. So that was tough. And by tough, I mean terrible. Yeah, I just want to say, um, it's going to be like an annoying thing to say, but I've never like experienced a breakup. Like it's so crazy. Like, especially like if you're in like the same friend group. Like this is a person who like, was she like, you're best. You're like your husband. Like you went together and like told everything to like couldn't have a thought without sharing it with them. And now they are a stranger. That's really crazy. It is really crazy. I appreciate her sharing this. And like, what have you just got back together? Right. It seems like she didn't just like dump him for greener pastures. Right. Oh, where if she did, she might be like regretting it. I don't think she did. I wonder what happened. I also, you know what I watched a little bit of yesterday? Very, very young and untrend of me. Oh my God. What? Are you two? Yeah. It's good. The new hot

33:15mess. What's it called? Get ready with me. Get on. Oh, you mean her like podcast show? Her podcast show. Which one did you watch? Stasi? Yeah. And she was saying that she had a really cute conversation because she was saying that, you know, she was admiring Stasi's brown hair and how she's like thought of, you know, eventually going on that journey for herself. And Stasi was like, you should. And she was like, I can't right now because I'm seeing my ex next week. And so if it doesn't look good, like I don't want to see him like that. That's so funny. But maybe now that she's done seeing him, she'll dye her hair. I saw about this with Danielle Caroline when she was on the podcast because she showed that she's not a natural blonde. And I was shocked to hear that. There is a pipeline of like successful women who have been like blonde most of their life realizing like that they were always meant to be their natural hair color, which is brown. I feel like Stasi's having that journey right now. I think a great example of it is Danielle Bernstein who was like, buddy, she blonde for many years. And now we look back where like, what the hell was she thinking? Like her hair is so meant to be the color that it is now. And I wonder if that'll happen with Alex Earl. It's one of my favorite arcs. Like it happened with Sally Carson on Southern Charm. First season. Beautiful. And she was blonde. And then she discovered she's a winter. Yeah. And she looks amazing. I think people and then we did face up

34:17on Danielle Caroline and we made her brunette. And actually, I don't think she should go brunette. No, I like her as a blonde. But then if she went brunette, I'd also say this is great. But I also think that you can be blonde for a time and then go back to your roots. Like I think Stasi being a blonde in the early days of antipromptuels. Was it necessary? Yeah. And when you are like really young, like the phrase blondes have more fun. I don't think it's that. I think it's that like you are special. Like you're the blonde girl. You're the girl who to the chance, you know? Yeah. Who put herself out there creatively. Yeah. So maybe that's next for Alex. I could actually see that. But also get back together with Braxton. If it hurts so bad. I know. Like, I don't know what the proper timeline is for a breakup. But if because it was new years, right? And it's almost three months later. Like I guess it was the first time that she saw like maybe this is normal. But like maybe just like get back together. But then someone commented saying you just described the lyrics of New Year's Day by Taylor Swift. And then she posted a video responding to that saying of her sobbing saying Alex hasn't been posting as much. Probably because

35:18this is me spiraling every night. I also feel like Alex just in regards to her posting. Because I saw like a tick tock. She made like a week ago being like I've been posted in so long. She was like doing her makeup. I feel like she's doing the reality show. She's doing her podcasts. And like when you have so much content, like different places, I feel like it's like, well, what am I posting? She doesn't write and she doesn't want to like spoil something on the show by posting it on tick tock. And if she's kind of in a tough spot with like what to post? Yeah. But I also really and they used to be get ready with me. But now everywhere she goes, she gets glam like I commend her for sharing that she's like sad about Braxton. Because I just like would have assumed that when you're a celebrity, like you don't like talk about your feelings. Because other person's going to see it, you know, it's not like you're just talking to your girl. You have to like be cool. Yeah. And she's not being cool. But I think that's like another reason my people love her. I did not expect her to like be crying on the internet about Braxton. I hope because we all know it's about Braxton. I hope Braxton like saw and texted her. And get back together. Maybe he needs to propose. She doesn't say like, you know, I haven't been

36:20rooting for them. But like this made me like really sad. And I kind of think they should get back together. I think so too. She was so happy. What could have went wrong? I don't know. I do feel like she thought maybe this relationship was holding her back like from something. I think that would be very. And then it was just becoming a lot of work with him being in Houston. Like it wasn't worth it anymore. Love is always worth it. Well, that's a lesson. Maybe she's learning the hard way. Okay. Mom holding out hope for that. Me too. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Another memoir forthcoming. It wasn't a big announcement. It was actually announced in like in a different sort of way. Doc Shepherd shared on his podcast. Really? That he is writing his memoir, which will cover his child sexual abuse. So he had marked his sober, right? Is he? Yeah. Yeah. So he has a crazy story. Yeah. He had marked his mum for it on his podcast. And Marcus was talking about his child sexual abuse in his like, and that's also referenced in his song Cannibal. And then Dax revealed that he has been documenting his own story in a forthcoming memoir.

37:22He said, I want to bond with you on this experience, which is I have for years on here been acknowledging that I had been molested. And that was its own hurdle to just say that. And I got quite comfortable being able to say that. That was fine. Now I'm writing a memoir. And last year, really, the whole year was about, do I have the balls to write down the details of this? Because the details were always going to be mine. I didn't want anyone to be envisioning me. It's weird that that was still some wall between my shame. Well, well, first of all, it's like a soft launch. Like we're going to get a cover. No title or anything. But what do you think? I think the title should be armchair expert. Oh, like in the armchair, like something about how he's now telling his story, where he usually has people in his chair, like, yeah, but also it's like how he became the armchair, like he is the armchair expert, like how yours is girl with no job before the chair. Like, no, no, just no, I think he needs to reference the chair, but I don't think he should have it be the same name as his podcast, especially because like, we're assuming in armchair expert, someone else's story, like now it's his. So it's like in my own armchair. In the, oh, hey, in the arms of a chair. I like that. But like how yours is girl with no job,

38:27because that's your pronoun online. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my pronoun. Girl slash with no job. I like that. His is arm slash chair. Yeah, that's a good title. No, I think I think the armchair has to be in there. I do. I need to say something. Okay. So I've been getting tagged a lot. I think with like the resurgence of Reza Farahan being on TV again, a lot of people are tagging me in his memoirs being like, oh my god, Claudia, he named his book Memoirs of a Gay Shot because he's Persian and he's gay. Being like, that's your dream because we're always saying the perfect title is Memoirs of a Gay Shot. That's where like the whole joke started from, like with us, like I knew he teased his memoirs like 10 years ago. I don't know if it came out already or he did. Oh, so he's just like continually promoting it. Yeah, no people. No, because people think it's like a new book. Yeah, and they just come into you guys know Reza's memoirs. We know that's where like the whole thing comes right. And it's very exciting for us. Like one person who did it right. What they needed to do. Yeah. And so like he inspired our, we didn't inspire him. I think but also we were both inspired

39:32by Memoirs of a Gay Shot. Oh, but of course an inspirational tale. I need to read it. I need to see it. I feel like I would love it. I think you would too. I think it's like world renowned. Yeah, everyone loves it. But I also think I would like everyone loves it. Everybody loves us. They do. So excited for taxes, Memoirs. I feel like it'll be strong memoirs. Yeah, I mean between his celebrity marriage, he's on like one of the most, I hated it, but one of the most acclaimed shows for many years, parenthood that people are like obsessed with the lore of addiction, childhood malicious. But also he has like just big personality and insight. And then building like a really some really successful podcast. I need to read it. Yeah. And mark me down. We were just talking about how them as a couple, like they have an insane net worth, right? Like they're both kind of crushing it. And I would like to know a little bit about, and I'm sure we'll talk about because they're always talking about like the awkward dynamics of their relationship. Like when you marry someone in the same industry and like he was very much like when they got together, like the lesser, earner and the lesser everything. And I think she sort of lived in. So I'm just

40:34curious about them in general. Yeah. And I'm sure to also talk about like being a parent, which is subject material that I'm very interested in. And I think he's just sort of like polarizing to people. And people like that always make good bucks. Yeah. He's like always saying stuff on his podcast that like people hate. I feel like only one time he did that. Oh, what are you referencing? Like, John and Dennis. Okay. So if we both have the same one. Yeah. This is just the thing with share. And Kristen Bell showed up like he's always he's sort of like toxic masculinity. Like Oh, really? Yes, he's there. Guys, I'm not wrong about this. He's very taken to with him. I have no problem with him. I don't know what the hell he's what he's talking about. And listen to this of podcasters. I don't think of him because they're so because. Oh no, Jackie, he's like out there. What? Yeah. He's America's sweetheart. Everybody loves him. Should I ask Chad? No, I feel like is that shepherd and his podcast considered polarizing? I feel like the commenters will let us know. But I especially because the podcast realm has so many polarizing characters that when you compare him to the others, he's so lukewarm. So funny. When I asked

41:36Chad, of course, the Jonathan Van Ness thing comes up. But he a lot of his comments and about personal topics get criticized for being cringe and awkward moments to discuss on social media. Okay, maybe I'm maybe it's like my own perception. But like I'm always seeing like people like hating him. I feel like they just haters going to hate. But like, you know, I think I'm right. But I just love, love, love. Okay, Teresa. I think I'm right. But let me know like it. Sound off in the comments. Are my just like sensitive? Like because I like it. Or maybe like sometimes you see something one time and it's just really colors. You know what I was thinking about this morning? Like my theory that I now, you told me I'm wrong, but I still believe it. Oh, let's hear it. That long live is written about Taylor and Joe. Like she wrote about Joe Jonas and when she performed with the Jonas Brothers. And you said it's for the fans. But I one time heard that like it was about them performing. And I just believe that. And as many of you might

42:37like stomp on your belief. I'm just saying like sometimes you just see something and like doesn't matter what anyone tells you that is what it is to you. Rascal is a name, of course. Of course. Are you ready for our fourth story? Harry Styles concert coming in Netflix. You know, I saw that when I was watching TV last night. Like I went to Netflix and I didn't choose anything. So they put up like a screensaver of all their comings. What night in Manchester, right? Yep. The superstar show from the co-op arena in Manchester in which he will play his new album, Kiss All the Time, disco occasionally will be beamed out worldwide on the streamer this Sunday, two days after the album drops. He records the show on Friday. He's recording Friday for air Sunday. Okay, I love this. Okay, I love a concert DVD. I love this new format. So it's not live streamed because it's airing Sunday and recorded Friday, but it's like a live to tape thing. It is. And I like that one like, you know, I don't want to see all the mistakes. Agreed. Take those out. But I also don't want to see something heavily edited and produce that feels like fake. Right. Like the 1989 concert DVD that was literally destroyed by Apple TV because like it cuts every two seconds. Like you can't even see anything. Love this. Love.

43:40I'm just confused about the timeline. Is he only performing his new music? Because I'm like, I need to wait until I like learning the album to like appreciate it. Or is he just singing like his one new song and then all the old music? I think he's just singing the new album. I think this is solely in promotion of his new album. And I think it's a cool way to promote your album. He obviously saw that we said that he was doing press like a new mama and he said, hold my scarves. Doesn't it feel like this was like kind of thrown together at the last minute? Yeah, nobody liked this. It's new and inventive. Yep. I'm not saying like if this were, I'm not like, I don't know that I'm a big enough Harry style spam to actually watch this. But if there were someone that I wear a huge fan of, like, I'd be so sad. And I'm not saying I'm not a fan of Harry's, but like to get me to watch someone's new album concert. Like you have to be Bruno Mars. Yes, of course. I hope that this is successful for Harry and Netflix. I would love for Netflix to do more of these. I love concert films. Like whether it's like partial, chill documentary, partial concert, I don't care. Like this is my favorite type of content. And I feel like people are always trying to do something different. Like visual album. Yes. And that, but doing it like this where we can like see. We're just one watch

44:42a visual album. Ask Miley Cyrus. Right. Where we can see the songs in the context in which he wants us to see them. I think we'll do a really good job of getting these songs to the fans. I agree. I love this. I would Netflix had like an era where they were doing this a little bit. Remember when Ben Ben Platt live from Radio City? Yeah, I never watched it. Oh my god. I not actually not because I'm a hater, but because I was such a big fan. I wanted to save it. And then I never watched it. I at that time was probably the biggest Ben Platt fan. Like when it came to his music, which is insane. I'm literally having a glassman, like a big fan. And I'm a big troll. Because and I wanted to see it too. But unfortunately, her name is now verb. Great. I wanted to see it also. And now in hindsight, it makes so much sense. But like he was playing Radio City, like his hometown show on Russian. Like so no Jews could go. Probably how he prefers it. And so I had to watch it on Netflix. And it's incredible. Like that's what it's so hard to be like a Ben Platt hater for because like he's so insanely talented. And it's one of the best concert DVDs. Like it's so good. And I feel like they did someone else they did.

45:45Maybe Olivia Rodriguez right after. And then they stopped doing it. Like these concert DVDs. Bring that back. I love that. Love you as well. Oh, and speaking of streamers, I don't know if it's a story, but you see Paramount and HBO announced that they will be merging. And I don't know if it's like a new app that we all have to like download. But if they want to get in the game, like do more concert DVDs. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see what the new app is. Which name should they stick with? I feel like HBO. HBO though. You just think it's like sex in the city and sopranos and Game of Thrones. Well, then there's an opportunity like introduce a new generation. I think like the name has such history, which is great. It's stay like I love the acronym. It's the home box office. I know. But I feel like they can't be HBO. But I like they need to take out and it's like maybe box. I was thinking that too. Also, I don't think that they should go with Paramount. Like I think like Paramount has become like a controversial like title. Like they're always like any involved in politics. Like they are. But where? Where? His boss is like Paramount. And then what happened? I don't know. He's always

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52:00That's neurogum.com code toast to try it for 20% off. Thank you, code turn. You're welcome. Our fifth and final story. Justin Timberlake is suing Sag Harbor over his DWI arrest in a desperate plea to save his reputation. Yes, I saw that page six. I can really kind of slam him in the headline because the news is just like that he's suing the town. I don't know what his motives are, but they're saying it's, you know, to undo the damage. Well, so actually it is because he wants a judge to block the video release of the dashcam footage of his arrest. Oh, it must be really bad. The recording, which was captured by officers during his arrest in June, 2024, is currently part of a Freedom of Information Act request filed by members of the media. So he argues in the lawsuit that he has depicted, quote, in an acutely vulnerable state during a roadside encounter with law enforcement. The court documents also claim that the body cam video captured, quote, intimate details of his physical appearance, demeanor, speech, and conduct during his field sobriety test arrest and confinement.

53:02His lawyer claimed the release of the body cam footage would cause, quote, severe and irreparable harm to his, quote, personal and professional reputation and subject the singer to, quote, public ridicule and harassment. So actually page six was not exaggerated. His own lawyer said that. Well, now I need to see it. I don't know if what the right way to have handled this was, but like by drawing so much attention to it, like I might not have even cared. You know, this is a two year old thing. Like I would have watched it and like moved on with my life. But now I need to see what he's talking about. I need to get in the weeds. And the thing is he's probably not going to win. Like say what you want about this country, but like the Freedom of Information Act is like kind of rock solid. Like nobody really gets around it. Not even like really famous people. Um, I don't know what grounds it wasn't recorded illegally. Like he just wants it dismissed because he doesn't feel like people seeing it. Well, that's kind of like too bad. Like what's his reasoning? I don't, I mean, it will cause personal injury to him. But I want to say even if he is successful in blocking this video coming out, like these quotes just, he said he had a martini and drove home. So they already just like

54:05up and whatever story he was telling because, well, how could it be so bad that you want it? Like if he had a martini and drove home, then it's just like an embarrassing dash cam. Like what did he do? Yeah. No, all the attention being drawn to it. Like I do feel as a mistake. Reese Witherspoon's dash cam footage, like almost took her down, but she's come back bigger and better than ever. Um, like this is over. I haven't really thought about him or his arrest, unless I'm in sack harbor. I'm like, always thinking about it. I'm at the bar. That yeah. The amount he knows now. I had a margarita there as well. I didn't feel like driving home. I actually took a new bar. I took a new bar. Um, so drawing a lot of attention to it. It would have made waves, but now it's like a big thing. I feel like people don't really care anymore. Like the whole it ruined the world tour. Like it was fun. It's over. People really have moved on. Um, if the video, I think the video's coming out regardless. So now knowing that you tried to stop it, you tried to like use your money and status to get around the law that like literally everyone, like every, that's the whole thing that the celebrities have issue with is the Freedom of Information Act. Like they're birth records. They're addresses like it's all just public record. It's like kind of this annoying thing. Um, he's really not special. These circumstances are not

55:10special. I don't think he was recorded illegally. Like this is just what. What it is captured. It wasn't recorded illegally, but I know that's what I'm saying. So he's requesting. He's trying to sue or whatever. For on what grounds? Like was it recorded illegally? No, no, that it will cause harm to him to have it out. It has so intimate details of his physical appearance, demeanor, speech, and conduct. Like is he naked? Right. That's what it sort of sounds like. And if he was naked, I imagine they have to release it blurred. Yeah, of course, but then like we'll all see him like where he can form. Like no, that will. Well, that causes harm for sure, but so does drunk driving. Like I literally don't give a fuck. Just saying I just can't even fathom what's what's so bad. And you know, I don't know what teeny. I don't know what his hopes were for a comeback, but like I feel now like I'm getting remad all over again. Um, no. And I hope the people in the town like fucking hate him. Like I don't think that they're going to take this lawsuit lightly. I don't think the judge like the Hamptons is very small town, very like they hate outsiders. Like

56:12the fact that all these people come every summer like they hate like it's very local, strong, local proud. So I feel like they're not going to take lightly to like this big celebrity trying to intimidate them. Yeah. Well, you shall see if he's successful. It still doesn't vote about because why did you do after one martini? Now it's not worth martini. Of course not. And if he's not successful, like, oh, maybe there's like a woman in the car with him. Hmm, I don't know, but when do we know that from like the police? Yeah, the descriptions. No, no, no. See, look at me. Now I'm coming up with theories. Yeah, he should not have done this because he's not going to win either. So it will have been for nothing. And now we just like hate you even more. Well, good job. We'll stay tuned for that. Let's dive into dear toasters. Our weekly advice segment. So every Tuesday, Jackie and I help out our swirlies and you know, you guys do so much for us. You support the show. We try to support back by helping you out. So you can write in test dear toasters at gmail.com or head over to our website. There's a little submission box when you scroll down and says to your toasters, both of the methods. You have just as much of a chance getting on the show either way and they're both totally anonymous. So don't worry about that. Don't need so many peace on methods. No, we don't. They all go to the same inbox. Just content based on method. So thank you to everybody who wrote in and hear today's

57:18submissions. Hello, girly swirlies. I just want to say love you all so much. You seriously put a smile on my face every day. That's really sweet. I need your thoughts. Is this a red flag or am I overthinking? My boyfriend flipped out on me for getting a little Botox from my little far-headed wrinkle that was starting to show. I paid for it myself because we keep our finances separate, but his reaction really made me worry that he might try to control what I do with my body or my money in the future, especially if we ever get married and share finances. Would love your perspective. Okay, boys like think Botox is a baseline and they love taking a moral high ground. Like, you're beautiful. You don't need these things and let me tell you if you never told him you had Botox, he would never even notice. Good on you for being honest, but like, what's the lesson here? No, but he just like, I think this is something like every boyfriend has to go through where they think like, don't do Botox. I love your face the way it is. And then like, your face doesn't change at all. It's a right of passage for them to like seriously, like, do you need me to pick you up? Like insane. They think it's just, I don't know why. Maybe they think it's filler or they were misunderstanding. So I can, it's very sweet. If he continues to like torture you about

58:19in the years to come, like, he needs to fuck off. But for right now, this is not a red flag. And you don't even have to tell him that you're doing. Now, he knows that you're a woman who does Botox. Now, great. He should know, you know, like we've said, transparency in terms of like medical procedures in your relationship is a good thing. But you don't need to tell him now, every time you get Botox, and if you're worried about like combining finances and how he might like micromanage what you're doing with shared finance, you would know if he was a micromanaging in like finances in other ways. I feel like this is the Botox talking. I agree, but no, then you know that whenever you do join finances, that maybe you guys each need your own little thing so that you can do what you want if he is going to be overseeing everything and having something to say. Yeah, no, but like, plenty of people have joint finances and still have personal accounts. Of course, in every woman, you have a cannibal, but that's like if you need to flee. Yeah, that's not, no, no, that's like an emergency. This is just like daily living. Yeah, you don't need your daily living, please. Also, if he is policing like what you spend money on, when it comes to like cosmetic surgeries, he will need plugs and you just have to keep up that

59:19energy for him, right? What do we got any hair plugs for? You know, and it took every man needs these plugs, you know, and like a lot of them do it now. Okay. Yeah, so it's like, oh, I can't get Botox, you can't get your plugs baldings. I just want to say because it's the one thing that like men have to deal with. You know what I mean? We have to deal with like wrinkles and skin and sag and boobs and pregnancy and belly like everything. They just lose their hair and they can't handle it like yeah, they can't fucking handle it and they all consider getting plugs and a lot, I feel like most men now like get plugs. He can't, if you can't get Botox, he can't get Botox, he can't get plugs. Yeah, and I just keep bringing it up because it's like yeah, we're not the only ones. You love hugs. Yeah, but even next one, two toasters. I'm 23 married three years together for eight. Okay. We met in high school. When I was a teen, I went through a cancer diagnosis. He stayed through it all with me. We share a very deep love and bond. He's very loyal. He loves me deeply. But for years, I've asked him to grow in areas like discipline, career goals, household responsibility, spiritual leadership. I eventually stopped asking because I started to feel like

1:00:20an Aggie bitch wife. I'm a troublemaker now. I'm still in school. Sometimes I feel like I'm managing him instead of partnering with him. We've had serious conversations about these issues over the span of the four years. He's not a bad guy. It makes me feel so terrible for even thinking this. I'm scared of hurting him and being the one to leave. But even my family has brought up concerns to me about his behavior and my happiness. So how do you know if this is something to work through or if you're just misaligned? Sincerely, I confused an empathetic toaster. Oh, that's really tough. I know because obviously a man who stays with you through cancer. Oh, you know, I wasn't even thinking about the cancer. No, because I'm thinking about it differently. I'm giving different advice to someone who just like, let's say without the cancer, I got married really young. And it's like, yeah, when you get married really young, you run the risk of growing into different people that aren't well matched. Yeah. But this is different because we always say, like, you know, Bridget, choose your husband like your life depends on it. And so like in a darkest moment, like you had the husband that you deserve and like the husband who did everything right. And so like are you giving up on him? But I don't know how many times you can have a conversation with someone

1:01:23before like they take you seriously. Yeah. This is tough. One because he was there for you, but also just because he loves you and he's devoted to you. And he's an otherwise very good guy, but like lack of motivation and his desire. You don't even have to be the most successful person, but like a desire to be your best and learn and grow. And in all areas of life like that, that's bad. Yeah. I would because it's a marriage because you guys have been through a lot together. I would take your concern seriously. I would like continue to talk about them in like a serious way, maybe like counseling, but maybe like spiritual counseling. Yeah. Um, um, he's a good man, Savannah. Like yeah. Right. You get to see. And so there's good stuff here. And it's hard to find a good man. Like, oh my god. Like the important boxes are checked here. No, of course, because then you have a man who might be like, you know, very disciplined career gold ambition takes. And then it's a terrible hug. No, I need sheets on you like in like the way

1:02:23in the places that it really matters. I feel like in the things that really, really really matter, like when you boil it down to like life or death, he is a good guy. And so there's a relationship worth salvaging here. So whether that's counseling, spiritual, maybe starting to go to church together and unfortunately, I do feel like the onus is going to be on you to help try and break him out of his shell. But I also feel like we need to be giving advice as if he might never break out of his shell. And then what? Well, then you can go. Absolutely. But you have to give it like a full, full shot because I feel like it is a marriage worth saving. Just based on what you've said about him. Yeah. In other aspects of your marriage. Yeah. It needs like a life coach, you know. But like not a turn one. It's impossible to like find like a like if there was a life coach. The concept of a life coach is such a good idea. That's a good idea. The execution of it is almost always grifter like 1000. And it's like the people who have the worst lives telling me what to do with mine. Like, uh, no thing. No, and when anyone says they have a life coach, it's like

1:03:25I roll. But the concept is so strong. Agreed. Like what? I guess it, but it's not even therapy, even though I want to say the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Did you watch last week? No. Erica had a therapy session and it was like literally half the episode. Um, and I hate when people do therapy on reality TV. It's just like it feels too intimate for it's always such an amazing scene. And this I feel like this therapy. Therapist has to be like having a three year long waitlist. She's the most amazing therapist. Yes. She's been working with Erica for a while. Yes. I look, if I ever go to therapy, I want to see her. She was amazing. Sorry. So what's our advice to this girl? Like I wouldn't really like, don't give up. Don't give up. I don't think he knows the seriousness. So like sometimes when like your wife is nagging you, like you're not listening, but maybe if your wife is nagging with like a bag packed. Maybe a listen. Maybe talk to members of his family. You know, really, I guess try every avenue before you were to give up, but I would be that would really be my last last. Me too.

1:04:28Thing to do. Our third and final is a little bit of Magiang drama. Hey Swerleys, I have a little bit of Magiang drama. I'm hoping you can help your girl out. I've been begging one of my close friends to join me at my weekly Magiang club. And after a couple of months, she finally agreed. And to no one's surprise, she loves it. I've continued to invite her weekly to what she is declined. But instead, she asked me on four occasions now if she can borrow one of my sets to play with. Her and a group of girls always post pictures playing together with my set. And I've never been invited to join. Also, it always takes me asking multiple times to get my set returned to me. I have my own group of girls I regularly play with. So it's fine. But for some reason, this just really rubs me the wrong way. One thousand percent. And am I justified in being a little hurt by this? And when can I tell my friend to buy her own set already? I tell her today. You don't tell her to buy her own set, but she can't use yours. You know, she cannot use yours. Stop inviting her. Stop inviting her. You're not invited to. That's just like the rules of feminism. It's a rules of feminism. And it's certainly the rules of majong. Now, the thing about majong is that it being a four person game, like you're limited in some ways, right? So you can't be invited to every game. But if you're always inviting someone to play and you have an pre-established game and you got her into the game and then she's like flourishing

1:05:29and never inviting you back. And then is also using your set and not even being a good borrower by giving it back in the timely fashion. Say it with me. Fuck this bitch. Fuck this bitch all the way. Yeah. Don't give her your set. Do not give her your set. Don't give her a spa. We're done with her. Do not give her your set anymore. Say no, I'm using it. No, I can't. But it always says like that I'm so quick to like cut someone off. But I'm sorry, this bitch used to be cut off. Yeah, that's really bad form, bad friendship to not invite you to play with her when you're the one who got her into the game. And you know what? I feel like sometimes games just like come together in a natural way. Yeah. Have like a game, but that she never even invited you and gave you a chance even if you have your own game and you're fine, like I feel as though that's rude. Agreed. Especially the set. Like maybe you have your gaming cheers her game, but then like you also could have a game together with, you know, two other parts. One person from your group and one person from my group. Right. Or other mutual friends. Not cool. No. Stop giving her your set. Oh my God, you're so nice. Like I'm so nice. I know. And also people are so awful. I would never give my set.

1:06:32Do you go play without me? Are you fucking kidding? Absolutely not. Me too. My set is so personal to me. That's I feel like I'm ready for my second set. I have three now. Actually four if you include a travel because I've like I had to get one here and then I have one in New York and then I got another one here because like somebody sent me one and then I got the travel one in case we like want to play the beach. Like I have one. I love it. I love it so much like it. It's like purses, right? It makes my heart sing. And it's like an accessory. So yeah. And I love when we play with it. I feel like everybody. It's a good vibe. It has like good energy. It's from oh my mom is young and I just adore it. We played with my set yesterday. I love your set. And being the girl to bring the set. Like it's just such a good feeling. I'm always the one you guys need cards. You need a rack. I have. I love yours too. Me too. But I feel like I'm feeling like itching for my second. Do it. I need like it so I can keep one in the car. And one in the house. And one in the house. I'm really always like oh it's in my trunk. Because she's always making us go in the car. And my take my phone so you can open the car. It's so annoying. It's just a whole thing. Um so tell that bitch to get her on set. Yeah. And she don't even tell her. Role lore. Role lore. That's your toaster. Thank you to everybody who wrote it. Role lore greater than roll tide. Wow. I feel like you just offended a whole

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