A Former Art Student Confirms Maria Farmers Account Of The New Mexico Trip

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It's a new article from ArtNet News.

And the headline is,

it was a question of how far will they go.

Former art students remember how Jeffrey Epstein

tested their boundaries.

And the author of the piece is Rachel Corbett.

So this is going to go into the Maria Farmer story, folks.

And that story, the whole entire situation

with Maria Farmer really bothers me.

It really bothers me that Maria Farmer was ignored

for so long.

It really bothers me that nobody believed her.

And it really, really, really, really bothers me.

That nobody chased Jeffrey Epstein down

when she first reported him.

Now, if they would have won after Epstein,

after Maria Farmer first brought him to their attention,

his reign of terror would have ended a long, long time ago, folks.

But instead, they dismissed what she had to say

and they did not go after him.

So we're going to jump into this article

and see what this article has to say about it.

And yeah, we'll go from there.

So to the article we go,

the summer of 1995 was poised to be a dream come true

for one group of recent graduates

from the New York Academy of Art.

They were the select few who'd been chosen from their class

to go on an all expenses paid trip to New Mexico,

the study under the prestigious painter Eric Fischel

to attend the debut of the newly launched site Santa Fe

biennial and to meet with a wealthy benefactor

who wanted to buy emerging artist's work.

The patron was said to be building a vast mansion

on his ranch in New Mexico and at the end of the trip

with commission one of the students to paint a mural

at the completed house.

There was a feeling that someone was going to come out

of this an art star, Ursula Rudenberg,

one of the alumni on the trip told Artnet News.

There was just one problem.

The patron was Jeffrey Epstein.

They convicted sex offender and pedophile

who died in a New York City jail in August.

The encounter with Epstein on his ranch

detailed to Artnet News by three of the alumni,

one of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity

sheds fresh light on how Epstein exploited the ambitions

of aspiring artists by promising sales and connections

all while testing their boundaries

and ultimately allegedly assaulting one of them,

Maria Farmer Epstein's first accuser.

And we understand what happened with Jeffrey Epstein.

We understand what he did to Maria Farmer.

It's not allegedly in my opinion.

I believe Maria Farmer's account,

Maria Farmer is a very, very, very credible witness,

a very credible person, a credible accuser,

and somebody who has suffered greatly

at the hands of these people.

And I think it's good that this story's coming out again.

I think that the more that this story is out there

and the more people who understand

what happened to Maria Farmer at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein

and not only at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein folks,

but at the hands of that animal,

Gilein Maxwell, who is still roaming the streets.

It is unconscionable to me

that these girls, like Maria Farmer,

suffered the way they did.

And someone like Gilein Maxwell is still skulking about.

Conflicting memories.

Epstein had purchased the 10,000 acre Zorro ranch

on a mesa between Santa Fe and Albuquerque

two years before the alumni trip.

At the time the students arrived,

he was in the process of building a Wild West-style village

on a property, complete with a saloon and a general store.

And we know that the Clintons as a family

according to several sources

visited that Wild West village.

That's where they stayed when they went to the Zorro ranch.

And I've had that confirmed to me by,

well, not that the, excuse me,

not that the whole Clinton family stayed there.

That was only by Jared Kellogg and his sources,

but I had it confirmed to me personally

that Bill Clinton did, in fact, visit the Zorro ranch

even though he said he did not.

This was where numerous women would later say

that they were trafficked and raped

and were Epstein plotted to mass impregnate women

and see the human race with his DNA

according to the New York Times.

But for now, his future mansion had yet to be built

and he was living in a temporary trailer on the land

with his accused co-conspirator, Gilein Maxwell.

The alumni say they were brought to the ranch

by Eileen Guggenheim.

And let me pause there folks, all right?

Eileen Guggenheim is definitely an antagonist

in this whole thing.

Eileen Guggenheim is not a good person folks

and from the sources I've spoken to,

she is basically an evil person.

She is basically pimping these girls out

is what she was trying to do.

The Dean of Students at the New York Academy of Art

and now Chair of its Board who was friendly with Epstein

because he had been in an Academy trustee

for the past several years.

When Art Net News first reported Maria Farmer's account

of how Guggenheim encouraged her relationship

with Epstein in part by bringing her to the ranch,

Guggenheim responded that the story was

a mysterious mischaracterization.

I have never been at Mr. Epstein's home in Santa Fe.

And that's a flat out lie.

That is a flat out lie of my sources confirmed to me

that she definitely has been there.

So however, earlier this month,

a second alumni contacted Art Net News

to corroborate Farmer's story.

There you go folks, how about that, huh?

Maria Farmer's story being corroborated

by another alumni who was on the trip.

So for everybody who was disparaging Maria Farmer

and everybody that was trashing her name

and talking trash about her, well guess what?

You're the idiot, okay?

You're the moron, you're the enabler.

Maria Farmer was telling the truth folks

the whole entire time, all right?

All you needed to do was read what she had to say

and you knew that this woman was definitely telling the truth.

But yet nobody stepped in to protect her,

nobody stepped in to be her voice, nothing.

Well, those days are over folks, all right?

That's what we're here for.

We're gonna make sure that these women,

the store, their stories are heard

and we're gonna make sure we're going to make sure

that not only are they heard,

but they're heard loud and clear folks.

However, earlier this month, a second alum

that contacted ArtNet News to corroborate Farmer's story

saying that she too had been at the ranch that day

and confirming that the meeting with Epstein,

Guggenheim and the students did indeed happen.

Guggenheim's misrepresentation appears to aim

at dismissing Farmer's concerns,

but kind of raises new ones, she wrote, yeah, no shit.

So what she's trying to do is she's trying to say

that none of it ever happened.

So basically what she's trying to dismiss Maria's Farmer,

excuse me, Maria Farmer's story as a whole

and say that none of that ever occurred,

that she, that she, Guggenheim was never even on the property.

But there are two other students who say that she's a liar.

Okay, so now that's three people,

two people, two other people plus Maria Farmer

saying that Guggenheim was there.

A third former student confirmed that the trip

with the New York Academy of Art students

to Epstein's home occurred and that Guggenheim was present,

but remembered few further details.

Well, there you go, few further details,

but she remembers that Guggenheim was there.

So there you go, that three witnesses now,

three people putting Guggenheim there

when Guggenheim says she was not there.

There may be some confusion about my visit 25 years ago

to Mr. Epstein's property.

Guggenheim told Artnet News

when asked about the additional accounts.

What I remember is visiting an old-fashioned Western town

that Mr. Epstein had apparently purchased

and was under construction.

To the best of my recollection,

I did not visit any home there or have any meal there.

So at first it was, oh, I never visited there

and then it was, oh wait, I visited some Western town,

again, another liar.

Guggenheim, you're on the clock, you're a liar

and what you did, you're part in what happened

in Maria Farmer will not go unforgotten,

it will not go unchallenged

and it certainly has not gone unnoticed.

You are on the clock, Guggenheim.

A day on the ranch.

Both Farmer and Rudenberg say that they felt unsettled

from the moment they arrived on the property.

It was a huge, scary ranch on this big, ugly,

dry desert farmer recalled in a recent conversation

with Artnet News.

When Epstein gave them a tour of the grounds,

he kept pointing out how many deadly rattlesnakes

lived on the land.

After they returned to the house,

Maxwell instructed the students

to put their coats in the closet.

When they opened the door,

they found a skeleton hanging inside.

What is, why would they do that?

See, the whole entire situation with Epstein

and Maxwell is so weird, there was such weird people

that it's not even funny folks.

These people were just odd, right?

To go along with their sick and disgusting,

disturbed behavior, they were just odd people.

She was disappointed that we weren't frightened

by that Rudenberg said.

She thought that we would be afraid of a skeleton,

but as art students,

all we did is look at skeletons.

For the rest of the day, they proceeded to pull pranks

on us all, on us all the time

to make us feel unstable, Rudenberg recalled.

And that seems like the kind of thing

that they would want to do, right?

The Epstein would want to keep them off of their toes,

they want to keep them guessing,

don't want them to be too locked into what's going on,

so that when he goes in for his, you know,

to make his move, they're a little bit off-balanced.

The odd stunts continued at supper

when Epstein and Maxwell instructed their guests

to close their eyes as they passed around the bag

of unknown objects and to reach inside

and guess what they were.

One was what felt like packets of jelly, packets of jelly.

It turned out to be falsies,

like you put in on your bra, Rudenberg said,

then they demanded that we put them on.

Rudenberg refused and immediately felt shunned

for not playing along.

I knew the commission was out the window

at that very moment, she said.

I could see it was a question of how far will they go?

Does this person have any boundaries?

Boy, that's a good question, huh?

And we all found out, you know, hindsight's 2020,

but we've all found out now that they have no boundaries,

zero boundaries.

Basically, Epstein and Maxwell aren't even human.

The way most people feel about things

and the people have empathy for others,

they don't have any of that.

They have all of the character traits of psychopaths, folks.

That's what they are.

Basically, in my opinion, Jeffrey Epstein

and Guillain Maxwell were straight up psychopaths.

It was the weirdest dinner party

I've ever been to all my life, she added.

I've been around a lot of rich people in New York

and many are misbehaved, but this was on another level.

Farmer, who later went on to work for Epstein in New York,

says that this was a party tricky,

often like to play with sexual objects, such as condoms.

Maxwell's role was to normalize it, Farmer said.

She had a lighthearted delivery,

so you never felt like dung, dung, dung,

you're going to get kidnapped and raped.

You just thought they were quirky and they loved art.

Again, folks, that was Maxwell's role in this.

Maxwell was brought in because Jeffrey Epstein was a brute.

None of these women would have ever felt comfortable

just with Epstein around, right?

None of them would have ever felt comfortable just Epstein.

So, Guillain Maxwell was brought in,

not only as the brains of the operation,

but to kind of calm feelings when the girls were around, right?

Oh, well, Guillain Maxwell's here.

There's nothing's going to happen to us.

There's another woman here.

And then they get to know Maxwell

and they get to understand that she's just as evil,

just as he devious as Jeffrey Epstein,

but by that time they're in their clutches,

they're in their grips.

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Rootenberg says that Guggenheim and Maxwell

treated her like a square after she declined to play along.

The dinner party should not have happened.

It was inappropriate.

I feel like when you're in a position

of responsibility to students and somebody acts

the way that they did,

that's caused a step back and assess

whether this is a professional situation or not.

And that definitely did not happen.

Well, I agree there.

I mean, look, I don't know much about the world of art folks,

all right?

I don't know much about art.

And I know that people are,

I do know that artists are quirky for the most part,

but this is beyond the pale.

The things that Epstein and Elaine Maxwell

were up to is beyond the pale.

I don't understand how anyone can just say,

oh, they're just quirky.

Because there's no way.

There is so much below the surface.

When you just dig just a little bit below the surface

with Epstein and his disgusting friend,

Gilein Maxwell, you see right away how gross they were

and manipulate it and how they were always

trying to manipulate the situation.

Guggenheim says that she was not aware of any students

taking issue with the encounter.

Had any student expressed to me

by their personal discomfort over expressed to me,

their personal discomfort over actions by Mr. Epstein,

she told the art news in an email,

I would have immediately addressed the situation

and offered my support.

At that time, however, neither I nor anyone

at the New York Art Academy had any knowledge

of Mr. Epstein's predatory behavior.

Epstein was first jailed for sex crimes in 2008.

Dangling of plastic carrot.

Epstein's promised to buy one of the students work

from their summer class in Santa Fe

and then to commission them to create a mural

was part of the conversation

throughout the day, Rudenberg recalled.

There was always the plastic carrot farmer said,

but both women say that Epstein never bought their work

after the trip.

Farmer says that she gave Epstein the two painting

she made there at Guggenheim's urging

but was never paid for them.

Guggenheim previously told Artnet News

that she has never forced an art sale by an Academy student.

That's a lie.

Guggenheim's a straight-up liar, folks, I'll say it.

Like I said, she's definitely an evil part of this story.

She was definitely new Epstein and Gilein Maxwell

a lot better than she says.

And I know that for a fact.

After Farmer returned to New York,

Epstein hired her as his art advisor

and she later traveled to Ohio to work

on an art project at the estate of his friend Leslie Wexner,

the billionaire businessman.

That's where Farmer claims that Epstein and Maxwell

sexually assaulted her.

Around the same time, the pair allegedly invited Farmer

16-year-old sister Annie to the New York Ranch

under the guise of a student trip.

When she arrived, Annie said nobody was there

except Epstein and Maxwell, who allegedly assaulted her too.

Think about that, folks.

Think about Maria Farmer.

Think about what she must have went through.

She gets brought there as an art student, right?

She's thinking she has all these, you know,

pie in the sky dreams.

And why wouldn't you?

Your dean, Mrs. Guggenheim,

sets you up with these supposed rich benefactors.

You're an art student,

you're looking to sell your art.

This is a big deal for you, right?

You jump at this opportunity.

I know I would.

Then you get there to Leslie Wexner's mansion

and things are different.

And then you add to the fact that they abuse

your little sister as well.

And what you have here, folks,

is a woman, Maria Farmer, who has been completely

and utterly victimized by these sons of bitches, okay?

And Guillain Maxwell, she's still out there.

She needs to be held responsible for what she has done

to Maria Farmer, Annie Farmer,

and the rest of the girls, folks, all right?

She needs to be taken into prison

and she needs to be punished.

She needs to be put under the jail cell, in my opinion.

Farmer says that Epstein and Maxwell

threatened to ruin her career

if she spoke out about what happened.

Instead, she moved away from New York

and for a long time, she stopped painting.

Rootinburg, too, says that although she didn't experience

anything like what Farmer went through,

the experience with Epstein soured her on the art world.

I was so fed up with that whole scene

and Epstein was part of it, she said.

I left New York.

I just thought, I don't wanna paint for these people.

I stepped out of that whole world.

And you know, we saw the same thing with Maria Farmer.

Maria Farmer stopped painting for a very long time, folks.

They took a big piece of her life from her.

Imagine what you love to do the most.

Imagine having that taken away from you

as well as being physically assaulted by these two.

Think about the whole in your life.

And then think about what Maria Farmer has had to go through

since she was the first one to come out and report this.

Think about the burden placed squarely

on her shoulders, folks.

Think about what she is dealt with.

Think about all the names she has been called.

Think about the people not believing her.

Think about the people that still serve,

still probably harassing her, right?

Think about that for a minute.

And put yourself in her shoes if you can.

And then understand how brave it was for her

to come forward the way she did.

And for the FBI, the New York police department,

nobody to be able to help her, it breaks my heart, folks.

It truly breaks my heart.

And that is, you know, one of the motivating factors

for me doing this podcast.

At first it all started about corruption.

And then I started reading the stories

and learning who these ladies are.

And, you know, things fall into place for you then.

And you start to, you know, see things a little more clearly.

These aren't just people who were talking about

in a news article.

These are actual human beings, folks.

These are people with hopes, dreams, aspirations.

And all of it was crushed under the heel

of this disgusting monster, Jeffrey Epstein.

And now his co-conspirators are still walking the streets.

Well, that's going to end in 2020, folks.

This is the year.

I truly believe that this is the year

that we're going to turn the predator into the prey.

And we're going to get some justice for Maria Farmer.

We're going to get some justice for Annie Farmer.

And we're going to get some justice

for the rest of the girls who were involved

in this whole entire disgusting spree of crime

that Jeffrey Epstein was engaged in.

And what it's going to take is more people

like Ursula Rudenberg coming forward

and corroborating these stories.

Because these women who first came out, especially Maria Farmer,

who was the first one to come out and tell people

what Jeffrey Epstein was, especially people like her.

They need to be held up as heroes in this case, folks.

And they need to be talked about as such.

And that is exactly what Maria Farmer

is.

She's a hero in this Jeffrey Epstein case.

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