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Hi Mossies & Mosquitoes, we're BACK and better than ever - it's been a while, hasn't it? Welcome to another episode of Moment of Silence.
Sorry for the short interruption in services, we missed you! But but Fridays have meaning again because we've officially said bye to our burnouts and have humbly returned to bringing you episodes every week.
This week begins with Sakshi and Naina catching you up on all that went down during their very short sabbatical. From watching trash float up the coastline off Carter Road to praying for the light to return to our eyes, the girls had quite the month. Our resident professional shaadi attender Sakshi has beef with destination weddings, while Naina's therapy acquired nazar and her therapist may have left her. We talked about stress and the state of the world and made bunker plans for if/when the next catastrophe hits. Finally, we tried to come up with a name for MOS nation's IPL team. Comment what you think it should be.
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00:00 – We’re back (again)
03:52 – Why are we always exhausted?
06:05 – Breaking up with the therapist
09:07 – Therapist–client relationship 101
09:49 – Pushkar sir… who is he?
11:04 – Destination wedding dreams
12:40 – Reality show with Nia & Uorfi?
15:50 – Cars vs rickshaw vs walking
19:26 – Prison or sanctuary?
21:26 – What does success even mean?
22:21 – Growing up with stress
25:26 – Free time… now what?
31:59 – Stress since the womb (and Botox)
34:16 – Boyfriends & their stress logic
35:43 – The art of self-soothing
39:47 – Sushi has main-character energy
41:06 – Popcorn vs flopcorn
42:33 – Rich friends = life hack
44:36 – Baby Sakshi & Baby Naina react
49:00 – School’s “spirit building” trips
52:23 – The joke that finds its audience
54:16 – Naming the MOS cricket team
55:00 – Samay Raina comeback talk
58:24 – Ozempic arrives in India
01:02:10 – New Zealand bans social media for under-16s
01:04:27 – Control freaks conserving energy
01:07:01 – Google Maps sends family into a ditch
01:10:31 – Last question… also subscribe (100K please)
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This time when I was reading therapy, the last session before the podcast was starting
up again.
She's like, I've run out of things to bring up with you because there's nothing to talk
about and that is solely from the fact that your brain is so fried and you're so exhausted
and you are in such need of rest that I don't want to prod at wounds in your life that
we'll just add more load to your already loaded plate.
Your therapist breaks up with you like three times a year.
Hi guys, welcome back to Moment of Silence board.
I'm Sakshi Shibzasani, I'm Nana Vaan and we are shitting our pants right now as we speak.
I'm actively going into survival.
Where is disgusting in the room right now?
Sorry for our one monthitis.
Not sorry but happy to see you.
Happy to see you.
Thank you so much for sticking it out waiting patiently.
There is, we promise a good reason that we haven't been around and that is simply that
we have been fried, our brains are fried, our emotions have drained out of us.
We are mentally unwell to okay and we were just finding the strength to come back into
this room and have a conversation with each other and you again knowing full well that
we stand behind everything we're saying and we can make it entertaining.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's heavy.
I was just going to be like, oh, had a little burn out.
We didn't know what to say.
There's also something about work that was just getting to us and we thought it would
be so relaxing, so rejuvenating this break.
There's so much back end that we were avoiding in terms of our personal work as well as
the podcast that it was not a break from anything other than putting the podcast out which
arguably is our favorite part about running the podcast and then we come back in more
of a, not a rejuvenation, I would say more of a resilience.
Yeah, I don't know why today is feeling like an episode of like a fear factor.
I've never felt so scared to be on this podcast and I've been so nervous to sit and wonder
what would come out at the other side of this episode.
But I'm here to take the leap with you.
I'm so excited that you have trusted me.
Fuck it up.
Fuck it up.
I've never been on this podcast.
What is it?
Fuck it up.
Fuck it up.
Fuck it up.
Because I'm wearing a free fall.
I'm not opening any parachutes.
I feel like this is going to be one of those episodes that we just keep talking and then
at the end of it then I was going to be like this episode is shit.
And I'm going to be like, no, let's put it out.
And you guys are going to be like my favorite episode.
I hope too.
Okay.
This, the premise of this entire episode is very tied to the fact that I'm a chronic
overthinker.
I'm a chronic feel bad.
I'm a chronic older sibling.
And the curse, the delta where all of this is formed is who I am today and why we have
so many hundred plus episodes of this podcast.
I said you're going to say follow us.
No, no, no, no.
And whenever I turn to Sakshi, she has a lot of confidence.
She comes with this unbreakable, uncrackable energy.
So you assume that Sakshi is always like down to do everything.
And then you turn to her in your weak moment.
You're like, Sakshi, I am dying, dude.
I can't do this anymore.
I am literally dying.
And she turns around to you with what I can only describe as a look of death in her eyes.
And she says, same I've been burnt out since post-pandemic.
I started working in 2020.
I got burnt out in 2022.
That's just how she's like broken matches.
When you have to light the last candle.
No, no, no.
I like literally my energy is like you're on an island.
You're on a desert island.
You have the cigarettes.
You don't have anything to light the cigarettes.
And at some point, you know, everyone's like, fuck, how do we light the cigarettes?
How do we light the cigarettes?
And my energy is after rugrowing two stones for three hours.
You'll get that one frame.
But the cigarette will be lit.
You know, it doesn't make sense.
Is that where you are?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I thought you were in that place where you're like, okay, I've used the rocks.
I've done everything.
And I am done.
I'm walking into the ocean and peace out.
If I make it to shore, I'll send you an Instagram.
No, no.
I am the rocks.
Someone else comes out.
You are the ones.
Till one spark comes out.
You know, I feel like those kids that became Nickelodeon stars and everything.
You know, you're minus the bad stuff.
Just the burnout.
But all their parents are like, no, you must work, you must work, you must work.
And then they go insane.
Yeah.
But it's not, no one is forcing me to work.
It's just me.
No, no.
There is a world that's forcing you to work just to survive.
You have to be in this world.
And then on top of that, your biggest curse is that you're entertaining.
Like when they get a chaskar of sakshi, they want the whole meal.
I stop being entertaining a while ago.
Did anyone get the memo?
I don't think so.
I sat in therapy and nobody noticed my therapy.
I swear.
What happened, bro?
Okay.
So I put up on the internet that I have a great therapist, okay?
And some unhappy person out there is like, how dare she figure this out?
And so this time when I was sitting in therapy, the last session before the podcast was starting up again.
She's like, I've run out of things to bring up with you because there's nothing to talk about.
And that is solely from the fact that your brain is so fried and you're so exhausted and you are in such need of rest that
I don't want to prod at wounds in your life that will just add more load to your already loaded plate.
Your therapist breaks up with you like three times earlier.
And dude, okay.
So I told her because I said the same thing.
I said, look, I want to talk to you.
You are like the biggest constant in my life.
I love you.
I've known you through the most tumultuous times of my life.
But again, I don't want to invent a problem to sit here just to have access to you.
And I know my rational brain knows that we are not friends.
My rational brain knows that we have a very professional relationship.
But what I realized even in this which was not even a breakup, it was like let's meet again in a few weeks.
I immediately started crying.
And I was like, I again, I'm feeling so abandoned.
I think she is bringing up your abandonment.
Yeah, 100% and I didn't realize that she is one of the only adults left in my life that I look to for support.
And that gave me a very, very neutral response.
And don't ask me to change who I am.
And I missed that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And like my dad was the biggest proponent of that.
And I missed that.
And it is too hard to move through a life way of facing the camera.
To constantly hear shit, to constantly like hustle and do all of this which you already know.
When your inside is like a flame, that's like being put out every second.
And you are trying somebody is simulating this rock to try and get you going.
So bitch brings us back to when I'm walking on Carter road with Sakshi as a thing that we're trying to do to feel better.
And I turn to and I'm like, dude, I am so burnt out.
I don't know how to move forward.
And then Sakshi turns to me and she like bitch.
I haven't seen light in my own eyes in six years.
And then both of us just stare at the water.
And we don't know what to do.
Looking at the cuchara in the water.
You can't even see the light of the cuchara.
At least no one's picking up the cuchara.
Yeah.
But you know, our relationships with our therapists, we are the lonely men that fell in love with the strip of.
The therapist is just doing a job.
You're okay.
I'm so like chigger ready on the paper link.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm paying you.
So I'm like, wait a minute.
Just take a hug.
Okay.
Then I went to go touch grass.
Yeah.
Why?
I'll tell you.
There was no grass being touched.
I'll tell you that much.
I started going to things that I like to do when I was younger.
So I restarted an MMA class which has brought me so much joy.
I restarted a music class which, oh my god.
I didn't know that it was going to bring me so much joy in this whole time.
I'm like, they're like, okay, you can come on Monday and to Wednesday because push cars are the only available Monday to end day.
Okay.
Push cars.
I'm expecting this old man with a handlebar mustache.
You know, like an Anglo-Indian.
Push cars.
Yeah, I know.
I think it's Pushka and the Susa or something.
Yeah.
You know, something.
And I walk in and Pushka is my age.
At least staring back at me.
And both of us are just like awkwardly sitting in this room.
He was expecting a ten years.
Oh my god.
He was expecting a 50-year-old man.
And now I don't know if this is a hang or if I'm being taught something.
It is, I have to say, mildly embarrassing to wait outside before the class because all the parents are my age.
And it's just me and the Ayas looking at our Instagrams waiting.
But still, the joy has been unlocked.
And as a result of our smoothies to get me a mic for my birthday.
Amazing.
Oh shit.
Guys, you're so thoughtful.
You're so welcome.
This is why we're shooting.
I just knew you need to exercise your vocal cords.
And Sakshi has found new life in being a professional wedding attendor.
Guys, you know, the idea of a destination wedding.
If I ever had that in my mind, please forgive me.
I don't think it's, it's not nice what you all are doing to your friends by making them come for destination wedding.
I have paid more in baggage allowance than I have paid for my education in my whole life, generally.
Because, okay, I don't think it's fair for flights to charge money for baggage.
Okay.
I think that if it's in hand, carry or if it's in check-in, it's going on the same fucking flight.
So this is the money grab for me.
And I'm not going to carry one less accessory just because the flights have a baggage allowance.
But then I'm also not going to be like, no, no, please, please.
I'm like, okay, give me the G-pay link.
But I don't want to pay for excess baggage.
Here's my thing.
Yeah.
You have attended all of these weddings as a plus one.
Yes.
Okay.
Your dedication to pull a look.
To pull a look.
Right.
To gamify the event for not just yourself or other people.
You know, Sakshi has made treasure hunts happen.
Sakshi has made tasks happen.
Sakshi is one season of mischief making away from her true life goal, which is to be on Splitsvilla.
I would love to be a mischief maker.
Just imagine me and Urfi and Nia standing and where Nia's cutouts end.
That's why Urfi start and then we'll be like together.
Our outfits will be one big puzzle because everyone's cutouts will be different.
And unfortunately mischief making comes very easily to me.
I know how to ruin people's day.
And the thing is, I was watching Splitsvilla and I know I can't be a contestant.
I need to be the mischief maker because I don't have the, like, I don't have the spotiness.
You know, I'll be toyed with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't take everything like, oh, it's just a game.
You best believe I'll be sobbing in every dome.
But I think a mischief maker.
And I do know Nia and Urfi are not vibing as people in, according to an interview.
So next season, if that's the only way I'll go back to MTV.
Interesting.
Yeah.
This is going to happen.
You know that.
Like Sakshi is right now hot property in the reality show market.
There's so many reality shows being made.
No, no, no.
You know, the thing is, you all think Nia is being absolutely serious when she's fapping like this.
I'm not hot property anywhere.
She is.
Such hot property that people have started new formats.
They like, plus one, they do best friends, podcasts host.
So that my number gets cut and Sakshi gets cut.
When I said, I said, I'll come with you.
Someone asked me to come on a reality show recently and I said, if Nia is doing it, I'll do it.
And then they call me and then I was like, Sakshi is doing it.
I'll do it.
You can do it.
It's been shot.
Put yourself in the position of a contestant on this reality show.
And all of these reality shows have these like very script gamesy formats where some people
are halves and some people are half-nots.
And the people who are half-nots, they are being done dirty because you don't even know what
contact you're signing.
You're like, yeah, I consent to whatever I'm doing.
Right.
Now in this one show, the half-nots, they've made them sleep on the floor.
And they've given them like this much chowel to eat.
Lavancho.
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't have all the names on Clutch.
I don't really know.
I'm doing my steps again.
But I'm doing them on the walking paths.
I've been watching this garbage.
But it's, they gave someone a free package.
Paniwala rice to eat in the wilderness.
That's not okay.
In the plot line of one entire episode of Someone in Flash.
Yeah.
But it's just a thing to watch.
Imagine being in that situation.
I don't want to be in that situation, which is why both of us said no.
Yeah.
The thing is, there is so much stress already in our daily lives.
And Bombay in the last six months has really deteriorated because every road, we talk about
it all the time.
It's like broken.
And recently, oh, big win.
Both of us got our own vehicles.
We did.
And then because of Bombay, I've had my car for exactly one month.
And it got punctured.
Two times.
Because the roads are so bad.
Both times I wasn't driving.
So you can't blame me.
But I realized yesterday it was the first day that I, like, was in the car.
That how much of my mental health was just like dependent on the fact that I was so overstimulated,
trying to, like, sitting in rickshaws and getting, like, shits thrown in my face every day.
And I'm not saying anything other than, guys, women, you've got to work real hard, man.
You've got to unlock this for yourself because half your mental health is just an AC silence.
I disagree.
What?
I miss rickshaws.
I do, like, just out of principle of owning a vehicle.
I'm not taking rickshaws.
But in the last one month, I have gotten out of my car at least four to five times and said,
listen, see me at the location.
I'm walking.
I cannot sit in a fucking vehicle that's not moving at all and just wait for things to happen.
Like, I feel like you need to get to places fast.
You need to walk.
I feel like now I've bought this guy.
I'm literally one, every time anyone's going anywhere, I'm like, okay, you take my car so
that I have a reason to walk.
I have a reason to take a rickshaw.
I'm just, I feel like this is a cage.
You know, why is it so quiet?
Why do I have to sit here?
At least when I'm driving, I love it.
When I'm driving, I'm like, okay, I'm in charge.
I can drive.
But sitting when someone else is literally taking the wheels and you have to just be a prisoner
in this vehicle, it is so darned.
It's horrifying.
Okay.
So for context, Nana and I are going through major burnout.
Okay.
We are really trying and our job is easy from a physical aspect.
Okay.
We don't have to leave the house as something we can do during the day that people have to take
leave for in the sense that if I'm going to the dentist, if I have to get my face,
if I have to get a manicure, pedicure, anything that is just like a task to do,
I can put on the camera for five seconds, say it's part of my vlog and move on with
my day.
I'm not trapped from nine to five in a physical space.
I even though there's no work or anything of that sort, all of that is a hundred percent
an aspect of the job that is great.
But the thing is, maintaining any creative field and I fully understand if you all don't
think that this is a creative job.
Like it's very easy to come and talk to your best friend for an hour a week, right?
But we are burnt out.
The analogy that we use mostly in private is someone has gone inside us and sucked us out
from the inside.
Like a chewsawa arm.
Or an alley.
Or an alley.
There's something.
You know, so we are, we took the break.
We're still feeling pretty burnt out.
So there is a sense of impending doom at all times.
There is a grey cloud that walks in with, you know how Ori and Orva she walk in with their own
lights.
We walk in with our own cloud of depression.
Right.
So if this episode is not making sense to you, you're so right.
Okay.
What you see as a prison.
And I'm going to try to unpack that.
It's what I see as a cocoon.
Sanctuary.
Sanctuary.
Like I, for the first time in my life, have a fear of getting to the destination.
Don't take me there.
I just want to sit in that car.
That is my suspended reality.
That is the minute the AC blast hits my face.
I'm like,
Leda, I'm going to take me somewhere and then I don't know.
But just take me somewhere else.
Like at night, I was never a night person.
I was always a morning person.
But the night is so quiet and no one needs you for anything.
And no one has anything bad to say about you.
Because I don't read that.
Yeah.
No way.
No way.
Yeah.
So it's so peaceful for me.
Like airplanes, people, everyone around me has like flight turbulence fear.
But I, every time the flight is turbulent, I feel more at peace.
It's so fun.
It's like a rollercoaster of life.
But again, a prison.
And airplane is literally the definition of a prison that you have voluntarily checked yourself.
Okay.
What happens in a car when you are not actively taking the wheel that makes you feel like it is an entrapment?
Okay.
Everybody that drives will get this.
When you are not driving, you assume that you will be faster than the person currently driving.
You assume that you will be able to cut it in ways that the person who is driving can't.
So when you see someone else driving, you think that in their head they're playing some slow ass fucking song.
And they're not able to drive at the speed and the efficiency and all of that.
That you would be driving at.
You know, where are you getting to?
What do you mean?
Where are you going that you need to take these like.
I'm shut.
We stay.
We stay.
We stay.
I'm shut.
We stay.
We stay.
Time on traveling.
I feel like the biggest thing.
And I think you can measure success in if you can, if you have the option of walking to every place necessary for you to go.
Okay.
For musty whatever you need to travel further away.
I think and keep in mind my dad has been traveling for two and a half hours.
For two and a half hours each way since the last 30 years.
And I think his health, everything like his time with families, time with friends, everything has suffered because he didn't buy a house closer to his workplace or vice versa.
I don't know what his logic was.
Doesn't journey matter.
But I think the biggest thing that I have unlocked for myself is that I don't need a vehicle if it comes down to it.
Like everywhere I need to go, I can walk to, including this office.
Pushing it, but okay.
I was going to ask you how did you see stress play out when you were growing up?
Like what were non-verbal cues that your parents were going through a high stress situation?
And what was the way out of it?
Did they just calm down?
Obviously no one was labeling their mental health back in the 90s and the early 2000s.
But what did you see?
And what did you learn from that?
I think we're a very snappy family when we're overwhelmed.
I think if we're trying to do a task at any point in stressing us out and some external stress comes and it's like no, not now.
Like, you know, so I think we kind of shut down the stuff that wasn't important in the moment and we were like, we'll deal with it when we deal with it.
And did you guys ever deal with it?
So my dad, his autoimmune disease got activated because of stress.
No, I don't think we did.
But it's so bad when your hair starts falling out and all of that because of stress.
How did you deal with it?
It was a very snappy family as well, like emotionally triggered at all times.
And I don't think I've seen any woman in my family ever admit that she is burnt out.
And if she has admitted that she's burnt out, she goes back out into the world with plus 10,000 energy and does it every day with a good blowout.
So I'm like, this is not the best example to live.
By that regard, I don't think I put out the best information into the world myself.
Like my therapist was saying, no one can look at you and say she can't figure it out.
So no one really beyond the point is going to actually try and help you.
And I'm like, no, but I need the help.
I really do need the help.
The way that I can maneuver, like somebody treating me badly is a case study.
And it is that you can treat me badly, badly, badly, badly, badly, badly.
And then I spent five hours by myself, first I cut you out and then I'm like, okay, I understand the circumstances.
This is what they must be going through.
Let me try and add from my already depleted reservoir more energy so that I can close the gap because at the end of the day the work has to be done.
And I think the only time I successfully shut that down was when I ended my last relationship.
I think that was the first time I experienced this is a breaking point and I cannot be broken further than this.
Okay.
And now I'm again, I'm like, oh, if I learned it once, I might be able to learn it again.
But even today, like operating through the world, I'm like, what needs to happen?
And then that will break you so much that you're like, okay, sorry, I need to take time out.
I cannot be a functioning member of society for a little bit.
Nothing.
Nothing.
And I'm fucking struggling.
But what is free time?
Like say, money is not a bar or anything of that sort.
What would you do in your free time?
Very, very simple things.
Like I would just read.
I would, again, like do I find like self soothing to happen through like creative expression in any shape or form or consuming things that are not because you have to deliver something or the other side.
So like painting, singing, any kind of thing that lets your body just regulate movement.
Yeah.
Everyone, I met Radhika, said as well recently.
And she was like, can we talk about how we're all operating our lives like when in summer camp?
Like because you go to like, if I, I hate going to the gym now, but if I don't go, I'm losing my mind.
I hate being on camera.
But if I'm not on camera, I don't know what to do with all this like energy that I'm putting out there.
But basically everything that I'm like, I don't want to do this at the other side of it.
I'm like, this was amazing that I pushed myself to do it.
I think that's the problem with an all of us are high functioning, hyper functioning women.
We always need to be employed in some shape or form.
If you're not at work, you're cleaning your closet.
If you're not cleaning your closet, you're doing the next thing.
When your mind is idle, because you feel so much, you read so much, you know so much.
And with the fucking current state of the world, there is no way you won't feel doomed.
There is no way you won't feel like depressed by just the circumstances.
This is the first time in the world where my own ideals as a child that you grow up thinking that good persists in the world.
And like good over evil, but yet every direction you look, it is evil thriving.
It's nasty shit that's happening against any kind of human rights.
It's the death of empathy and it's disgusting and how do you live in a world and how do you reconcile in a world like that.
And especially coming from where we are, how can I feel good being successful in a world where this is the state of the fucking world?
Very January couple.
Yeah, I don't know 100% and then I go back into my car and I sit in my AC and I feel like,
I've thought enough about the world, done my deed for the day and I go home and it's shitty.
Do you feel guilty?
100% explain.
If you're an emotional person, there is no way that even if you're reading a headline or you're watching a reel or you're watching things where somebody else has cards drawn out,
really, really opposite to you will not need into your life and effective to be like that.
And obviously we are all very aware that we are two geographical time zones from being the next center of attack.
Of attack. We are one wrong move away from being basically women in Afghanistan are struggling.
Now we're literally we were just we happen to be born.
You know, there's nothing and when right start getting taken away, everyone thinks it's not going to happen to them.
But then it is going to happen to you.
So it's very anxiety inducing.
It's very scary what's happening.
There's so much happening and you have to kind of speak up.
If not in public, then in private because then there is that entire thing.
And then just in general, being a good human is requiring a lot of speaking up for because so many things are fucked up right now.
You have to speak up to all of them and then we are also in that privileged sector where we can do something about it through donations and all of that.
And then you're like, okay, but at the end of the day to afford myself that privilege.
I have to do something that don't fully align with my ethics as well.
So you're in that moral dilemma as well.
Like I can and your moral dilemma, please out in front of the world.
But the thing is I feel like I'm very grateful for the privilege and I will speak up in the capacity that I can.
But I don't know what's the move is that you read yourself of the privilege is that you use your privilege to speak up is that you use your privilege to help others because it doesn't journey count if you're on the bad side and you're using your.
You know, yeah, and then you think that this is the first time in history that this is happening, but we know that on both sides we have so many refugees in the family and they were also from privilege and that was snatched away from them and could they have done something differently.
No, so then you kind of felt like okay, life is going to go where it's going to go.
But then you also look at during the partition a lot of people moved a year before because there was news of the partition, but then do you act on every single conspiracy here.
So and then do you become a flatter or like do you become live long and after see yourself become the villain.
As simple as and then there's some people that are doing all the things that you are not doing, but then they'll sit and comment about you buying fast fashion and then you're like, but I donated like half my monthly salary to women's rights and then you're like, okay, you know, I'm never going to leave the country as a refugee.
And then I have my dog can't handle this physiotherapies right close to the house.
So then I'm like sitting as soon as anybody is announced, I'm thinking of ways that we can end our life together and then I'm like, no, no.
This is not a gag.
Someone will have a thought piece about this.
Maybe otherwise I will comment on like, you better hope you get a kind narrative and I wouldn't.
If life of Pooja was not spanned, I don't think so.
She should this honey is going to be spanned.
It's just the way the world was.
You know, stress is passed down in vitro like when you're in your mother's womb and your mother has caught his all.
It passes through the placenta and it passes into you.
My child is going to need Botox.
And yeah, I can definitely assume that as to second and third generation refugee, your parents were in Bombay while blasts were happening.
You were born very close to those.
That there has been like a decent amount of stress and cortisol that has been passed to you genetically, even before you chose the stress for yourself.
Yeah, but I also think I've chosen the Harvard of stresses.
I think I've chosen the most privileged stress.
Can you imagine our stresses still not physiological?
Yeah, it's all like anxieties which I'm not saying are not valid.
But there's people that have to deal with all these anxieties plus physiological stresses of how's it not physiological?
I'm saying both have PCOS.
I don't have PCOS.
Okay, I thought she keeps saying I have PCOS.
I'm just glad I had my time.
And I don't have PCOS.
Okay, you've been falling ill, literally every second day.
No, I'm saying like, okay, this is all stresses manifesting physiological needs.
But at the end of it, I've been seeing even up to my mom and this is such a random example and I know I'm coming across your knee privilege right now.
The fact that we were comfortable footwear when we have to walk five minutes.
But there's people just walking around with foot pain all the time because buying ergonomical shoes is expensive.
This is something we will never have to deal with.
How JK of you.
JK, John, my God.
I'm like, dude, can we just operate on the level that, okay, we have baseline privilege and that most people watching.
We have privilege.
You have privilege.
We let's pass that point because nothing you say after that.
You know, all before that, you can fix this conversation.
No, no, I certainly agree.
But I'm saying like, we are the least stressed people in this country.
I would, okay, together.
Except I have a male partner.
Yeah.
I'm going to say one of the lightest people in the fucking world.
My son Apagas Hindu straight cis boyfriend who will be like, just relax.
And you're like, away, the weight of the patriarchy is making me hunch.
And then someone's going to comment on this hunch.
And my feet hurt from wearing heels.
Just don't wear heels.
And you cannot, right?
The only people less stressed than us privileged independent women are privileged in independent men.
Yeah.
Okay.
Number two is also a problem.
It's fine.
Yeah.
We don't have the gold medal.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
We've been really trying hard to get the gold medal.
Yeah.
My boyfriend, Jason, he suggested that I should go for Vipassana.
I guess who got a black eye after that?
I didn't comment.
And not been seen in public after that.
I haven't vlogged when he's in the room.
I was so upset.
I was like, Vipassana, who's going to shoot this skin care brand?
If I go to Vipassana, it's going to go to rebel kid.
Sorry, it's sad to me.
Oh, okay.
Tell me how do you self-soothe if you are so shot up all the time, if you're so anxious, if you have depressive tendencies?
I'm not fully going to say that you're depressed.
No one wants to diagnose me with anything.
So I'm not diagnosed with anything.
But I also wanted to bring up like, do you also think that because you're so stressed and then you have to kind of mask your stress when you're around your family, your friends?
Our job is kind of public so that do you think the people that get the worst of you are the closest people to you?
100%.
Closest one person.
My boyfriend gets the worst of me.
Not even your mom's sister.
My shield, all of it from my mom's sister.
And my mom comes with a magnifying glass and she's like, tell me.
You'll have to tell me.
Some things up, right?
Some things up.
And then your woman beat your boyfriend.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
Yeah, but I can't.
I can't cry and run to my mom.
I can't cry and run to my sister.
You can't catch me dead crying in front of my friends.
I can't.
A therapist left you.
A therapist left me.
I cried and she still didn't stay.
She's like, hey.
I have a 1 hour or so.
So yeah, the only person I can be my worst self in front of is my boyfriend.
And it was brought to my notice also.
And I acknowledge it.
And I have worked on that also.
And I'm like, no, you can't come home and drop all your shit on your boyfriend.
And you can't come home and put all the weight of the patriarchy on your relationship.
You are not fixing anything.
You.
No.
So that's why we really, really made sure that.
One, I have many hobbies where I can exercise my anger.
Like we're basically an anger management.
Yeah.
And two, we do many romantic things together.
And I try my level best to bring my best personality at least for an hour before the worst personality comes.
Just when he starts smiling, I'm like, how dare you.
My therapist loves me.
No, I feel like for me, my parents, my sister and I think even my friends are not spared.
I think every time, if recently I was chilling at a party and I was zooming out and then I just like did like a...
And everyone was like, what happened?
And then I was like, I just realized for a really long time, I hadn't made any expression.
And I know someone was watching.
So I just hope it was time with a joke.
And they were like, it's so fascinating the way.
Why are you crying?
I'm not crying.
I'm genuinely, I was laughing about a bunch of weird down bad you look.
Definitely like you're crying.
No, no, no.
I'm genuinely not crying.
It's the tear with the look of like a loss of spirit in your eyes.
I genuinely don't.
It's a spark, it's a spark in my eyes.
Now I don't know why.
I'm my eyes are watering because I'm not feeling cranky.
But basically there's a level of masking that obviously is happening.
And then even in therapy, even the therapist, the moment I started crying in therapy was when she was crying.
Just to let you know, we are contractually bound.
I cannot speak about what's happening.
You can be yourself here.
And I started crying.
I just got sick.
No, but it's dead.
And then I was like, we can just move on.
This is not going to stop.
But that's so fair.
When are you ever yourself without figuring out what character that looks like?
That's very deep.
But I genuinely thought I was myself for my Carter Road walk.
Still some Buddha came and started flirting with me.
So even on Carter Road, like sushi is a character.
Who has a bit.
I'll tell you, sushi's character.
Sushi's character is that sushi takes on fights bigger than he can take on.
Yeah.
At all times.
And he has a fear of huskies.
He has a fear.
Sakshi's character is that she's a hyper-independent woman who's recovered from her MCL tear.
And it hurts her somewhere inside, but she'll never let you know it.
And they walked on Carter Road.
And you know the leash is matching the shoes, is matching the bag.
You know, there's a full elephant on it.
If anyone looks at me, I'm like, I can't believe they recognize this fucking caricature walking on the road
with the matching sock to the leash to the bag.
And it's so idiotic.
Because why am I dressed up like that?
Comment down below.
Is there a character that you put on in your life, whether it's for a parent, for your friends,
for your family, for your boss, that you find funny or you struggle with.
And you're like, okay, I wish I could take this mask off and just chill for a bit.
We're all just worlds and shape masks.
Shaped masks.
Shaped masks.
Shaped clothing.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's make this slightly more positive, I would say.
What was your popcorn of this month?
My popcorn is so many popcorns, dude.
Popcorn is my favorite.
Well, watching the render.
I didn't watch the render, but my popcorn was that I finally crossed my bucket list item of having buying a car,
which when I moved to Bombay for years ago, I did not think that it would happen for me this soon.
And I have become stronger.
I've gotten on my diet.
My mom came and hung out with me.
I have a great set of friends and people in my life that I can...
You went to an iconic Bombay gym, Ghana.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I went to one of the Bombay haunts that all the sober people go to.
Again, another like tick mark in my Bombay journey.
Now, when someone takes me on that Bombay journey, I'll be like only pointing out bougie places.
This is why I bought my car.
This is why I had caviar with Ranveer Singh.
My favorite thing about Nana is sometimes she'd like message me and she'd be like, did this today.
It was so fun.
And it'd be the most inaccessible.
Only the 0.1% rich people of Bombay have done it.
She'd be like, everyone must do it.
It was.
Did I know?
Would you know that you're going to unlock this for yourself?
And my biggest hack in life is you don't need to be the richest person in the room.
But you need to have the richest friends in the room.
Because then you can enjoy the perks and you don't have to deal with the maintenance.
One of my friends recently, who is a member at one of the like...
...willinged in reach candy CCI, I don't know which one.
But she had signed a guest in.
And the guest vomited on the table.
But she didn't want to lose her membership.
So she cleaned the vomit with her bare hands.
So the waiter didn't realise.
So heavy hangs the head.
And where's the Jim Carter membership?
What was your problem?
Was it the guest?
My popcorn.
I don't know.
I haven't interest.
I've shopped a lot.
Okay.
That's all your popcorn.
What have I done this month?
I've been here only.
I've not even travelled.
I went to Calcutta and I went to Dera.
Sweet.
I have some cute outfits.
I feel like my life ends up playing dress up.
And I'm not even the best dress person in the room.
You are the best dress person in the room for sure.
Now that I started doing my hair, people think that.
But I have a flop.
No, I don't have a flop.
I've been zen this month.
I feel like I just, if I'm not required, I go back into my cave.
So I've been in my cave.
I've been hibernating this month.
I've been hibernating on Magnolia's bakery, food and cucumber and carrots.
So that's my new diet, by the way.
So yeah, I've been in hibernation, but I'm defrosted.
I'm out.
I'm, I'm happy to be here.
Do you ever think about death?
Repair myself.
Aliens.
I think I have.
Do you ever think about Lil Sakshi?
No, she was quite a loser.
Would Lil Sakshi be proud of who you are today?
I think Lil Sakshi would think I'm fat.
Stop it.
Okay.
Anything nice?
I thought you were making it positive.
I know I, I started, but I was going to make it positive from like your lens.
Because I feel like Nana has the ability to make things feel positive.
Like, you know, she'll see something.
Like, you can see garbage and then Nana will be like, you know,
look at that one flower rising through the garbage.
And I'll be like, this is fucking filthy.
Someone needs to clean it up.
Okay, bye Nana.
You know, I feel like we are, there's one optimist in the room.
There's one pessimist in the room.
I don't like that you've called dibs on pessimism
because it is literally something that keeps me going.
But you're always looking for the good in the bad.
To not be completely depressed.
Oh.
Coming back to baby Sakshi.
That bitch.
Which she'd be proud of you today.
Okay.
So, ever since I was a kid, I, you know, how you, the,
you all remember the found these stories.
Yes.
My main thing was, I would reject for the people who don't know.
Basically, I wanted to distribute bounty to my kids,
to my kids, to my classmates in the fifth grade for my birthday.
And my dad to save X amount of money has gone for fake bounty.
Like, it was called Founty.
It was 20% cheaper, whatever the fuck.
And I didn't know how much my dad was making
because I got everything that I bitched and lying for.
And now that I know how much my dad was making,
I understand why he had to kind of, you know,
be smart with his budgeting.
And I have gone to the store yesterday and bought a bunch of things
without looking at the price and luck in me for me.
I didn't flinch, even after I paid the bill.
So, I think that was, I think the only place
I really thrive is in my career.
And I think, baby Sakshi would have been proud of that
because I never thought of like traditional metrics
or like marriage or anything of that sort.
I wasn't, I don't think Sakshi,
younger Sakshi cared about that because I was always such
like a, like, you know, I was, I was like a tornado.
I would walk into places, fuck shit up.
That was always my thing.
So, I always knew that it would be so difficult for someone
to match my freak when it came to like marriage or anything
of that sort that that was not the success I was looking for.
I just wanted to buy bounty instead of bounty.
So, in that aspect, I think I have killed it, killed it.
When a person gets triggered or when they're feeling
in their fight of light, you always kind of retract
into that younger version of yourself
that you fiercely want to protect.
Or you don't want to protect.
Would you want to protect yourself when you enter that situation?
I don't want to protect myself, but also this is so difficult
for me to answer because it's like entire chunks of my child
hood that you couldn't, like you could get me like a memory
finding pill and I could not control.
So, for me, like anything and my childhood wasn't like bad
or anything.
I've just like locked out like embarrassing memories
or anything of that sort.
And just as what you're being a kid,
you have a lot of embarrassing memories.
So, I was just like, I was looking through my Google photos
that day and I was like, when did 2016 happen?
Like, I just can't remember that entire year.
I can't remember 2019.
I was like, for years when I'm like,
ex, so I don't know.
But do you remember and want to protect your child?
Fiercely.
Really?
Fiercely want to protect small about baby Nana.
Baby Nana.
Dude, baby Nana was the best.
Yeah.
Of such a, like such a happy kid.
Yeah.
Just always wanting to smile and put a smile on everyone's face.
It's like this very lame thing that happened in school.
Which I'm like, this is so fucking lame.
We used to go on these trips.
Okay, there were these like spirit building trips
that we had in the 11th grade where they would take you
to a village and they would make you live a village life
so that you would understand like develop empathy.
Yeah.
Just 20 South Delhi kids.
Yeah.
And there was this like feeling circle
where they made you like write down a bunch of shit
and then you had to talk about like what was worrying you,
what was something in your life that you wanted to work through.
My circle, every one person's parent had passed away,
one person, someone had passed away in an accident,
one person was dealing with some chronic financial thing,
something something and then it came to me and I realized that.
My thing said, I just want to make everyone happy.
I love that.
Yeah, but I was like, you know till that point,
like nothing had happened in my life that was so insane.
Yeah, that you know, like that I was so like thrown off by.
And when I come into a space where being happy
or presenting as happy is something that actually gets you ahead in life.
And generally like if you're in an office
and you're a personality hire, which I've always been, you know.
You are the personality hire.
You bring the person and it's too much.
It is tough because then the thing
that you hold for sacred to yourself becomes a deliverable
and asked of you at all costs.
I have to enter this room, I have to meet people,
feel good because if they feel good
and don't mean this in any kind of like sex-work-y way,
I get paid, you know.
I get paid to make people happy.
Yeah, exactly.
And so till this point I think what was happening was that
because I didn't feel as successful
or that I'd established myself,
the only thing that I had in my toolkit was to be entertaining
or to have a good work ethic and stuff.
So I was constantly renegotiating my boundaries
and letting them be like, you know,
completely cross-left right all over the place.
And I think that self-abandonment made me feel really, really shitty.
So now when I feel like I'm in a place of power
and you come back to it if you care about it enough,
I feel so protective like an older sister to the younger self in me.
I'm like no one can touch this bitch.
Like she is too fire.
She has the sauce.
She is just the most amazing person.
Like, you know, I look at my own baby videos.
I'm like that.
That is it.
Q was killed alive.
It's cook is in it.
I'm back.
I'm so back.
I'm so back.
I'm so back.
No one can fuck with that kid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Until they bully and school.
What fuck is with you?
The younger people,
the younger people don't match.
You know, I'm just like...
It is when I get hurt.
I think you're messing me up.
Yeah.
You're messing me up.
Yeah.
You're messing me up.
Yeah, you're messing me.
You're messing me up.
You're messing me up.
Please, yeah.
I had a bad time.
No, no, I was joking now.
No, no, no.
No, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no.
No, no.
No, no.
No, no.
I'm sorry.
Can I say something.
I just want to share a random story.
So I went over to my parents.
I was that day.
Everyone's worried about the straight of our moves, but no one's thinking about the gaze of our moves.
Okay, and then whatever of you.
And I was like, okay, then my aunt walks in.
She's the same age as my mom.
She's born in the same year, same city.
And she says, you know, I saw the funniest meme today on the internet.
Everyone's thinking about the straight of our moves,
but who's thinking about the gaze of our moves.
And then I was like, this joke has found its target audience.
And I just saw a moment of silence to find its target audience.
Like this joke has found 60-year-old women grew up and bombed me.
Every laugh feels like it's going to end in a cry.
Okay, we have to, we have to keep our TRP up.
So there are some trending topics that we must discuss.
I don't want to discuss John, Vika, Puran, Raj, Shamanee.
No, okay.
Trending topics.
IPL has started.
And I thought after my last big win, my win, that I would watch more IPL,
but I just don't know the timings.
And so far I missed all the matches.
So we added more teams.
We added more teams.
So actually name five IPL teams.
I know the OJs.
I know Mumbai Indians.
Kolkata, Nairiders.
Chennai Super Kings.
Rajasthan Royals.
Hyderabad Sunriders.
Sunriders.
What was the most cricket team we called?
Moss.
Mossies.
Right?
Mossriders.
Moss.
Moss.
Natives.
Moss.
Natives.
Queens.
Moss Rani's.
But what is Punjab's team called?
Kings 11, Punjab.
Queens.
That's it.
That's it.
I don't know.
I'm trying to guess the number you were saying.
You mouse made that.
Like you were going to say 7, but you didn't say it.
My favorite segment is Naina.
I'm trying to get the TRP up.
Because I'm never on board.
I don't know where this has come from.
And then we're like talking about the IPL.
OK.
Next trending topic.
Summer, Naina come back after late in controversy.
Did you watch it?
I did, actually, watch it.
How was it?
It was well written for his audience.
And again, we were talking about this in the car.
No one deserves to be cancelled like that, especially for
like something that was good.
How do we say this?
Yeah.
I'm struggling with the thing because, you know,
if I want free speech in this country,
then we need the other side also to have free speech.
And I'm okay with that, which is what I think the US
was doing for a long time that everyone was allowed to have
their opinions.
But now there's a sense of like, we can't say this.
We can't say that.
And that's not
Indian to me.
You know, the country I grew up in does not
have the values that there are right now.
Like if there's a social boy caught on Ranveer Alabadev
making a bad joke, which is what somebody said in a
reel that I saw of his special as well, that's fine.
But then the entire
career ending because of a bad joke, which maybe should not
have reached the audiences that it reached just because
of the nature of it.
But the punishment was not justified.
And not the worst thing happening in this country.
Like just not even top 20 worst things happening in this country,
not even top 50 things.
Or even like, see for example, in Duranda,
where you're censoring bad words, but you're seeing
gore at a level that should not be seen, especially by an
impressionable mind at all.
Yeah, it's insane.
It's just absolutely insane that
the, I don't know, maybe I'm not able to clock it, but
the place that the line gets drawn never makes sense to me.
It just is absolutely not making sense.
I don't know.
That's why a lot of the anxiety and fear comes from
because today you could say the sky is blue and it's okay.
And tomorrow you say the sky is blue and suddenly you
like offended the people of the sky.
And you know, you're like, oh, fuck what?
I didn't even know that I didn't have that intention at all.
And you know, in history, anyone who likes
switches sides of everything is a coward.
But when you're right,
being questioned, it's very hard to stand your ground.
100%.
I will stand my ground.
Within limits.
I mean, even here, apologize, right?
Because he also, but that's how you, you cannot fight
a losing matter.
You have to think tactically.
You need to do what you need to do.
Yeah.
And then later, when things come down,
when the media cycle comes down is when you can come back,
which is exactly what he did.
And you have to go to exile when your time has come.
Yeah.
Crazy.
And we're just a more creating content.
I know.
And they imagine like my throat is choking.
I was like, fuck, or if I even in this vagueness,
which I anyway conduct myself with so much vagueness,
what if I've said something vaguely offensive?
Sorry.
Sorry.
My comment wasn't just inappropriate.
It was not funny.
I'm not a comment.
OK.
Shout out, Raniya.
Tending topic number three, ozampic launches in India.
Ozampic launches in India.
OK.
I'm anti-ozampic.
Because you work really hard in the gym.
No, I just think it's not well researched enough
to be consumed, the way it's being consumed.
I do understand extreme cases.
People's weight, or people's health,
people's weight will kill them before any side effect
from ozampic.
And I do understand extreme cases, why it's being used,
where people are medically in need of it, in need of it.
But there are no free launches.
There's something about it that's just not adding up to me.
As someone else, I was like, what if there's an ozampic shortage?
And then the people that have not been eating for so long,
suddenly are really hungry, and they're not getting
their ozampic.
And then that causes some sort of ins, like, yeah,
cannibalism or a god knows what.
Casual use.
And yeah, casual use of anything.
I also feel like that with cosmetic fillers and stuff, right?
I feel like when you're using cosmetic fillers and treatments
early on in your life, you don't think about the repercussions
of it later in your life.
Like today at 20, you might eat like baby Botox and half a filler
or whatever.
And it feels so like throw your eyes.
Make out that it's very natural.
Yeah.
Then what's that's happening when you're 30, 40, 50, 60,
like then you literally start embodying the substance,
the film in real life, because how much can you keep tinkering?
Or like now, Chris Jenner, did a full second facelift,
but now people are commenting on her neck
and they're commenting on her hands.
And yeah, there will be parts of you that will age.
And if you keep trying to fight aging
from a narcissistic lens, it's a bit of an issue.
But if you're doing it or you're using ozampic
from a health perspective where your obesity could, in fact,
be a detriment to your life, then I guess you've got to do
what you've got to do.
I'm 100% on board with that.
I just think even if you can and choose to use
mojaro or ozampic to lose weight, still go and build that muscle.
Even if you're not losing weight, still show up
in the gym and build that muscle because there is,
you know, you see a 70-year-old that's
been nourishing their body since 70 years.
And then you see someone who's not been nourishing their body.
You see the mobility, you see everything.
There's the box jumps that we do in the gym that are so daunting.
A kid can easily do box jumps.
Like it's not even a, like we've forgotten basic movement
in our body, even if it means just going for one hour
and like nodding your hair or just some basic movement.
Like there is, we are going to need to be physically fit.
I don't know what's going to happen,
but we are going to need our bodies to stand by us.
On a tangential note, and I don't condone it,
please, we are on research.
I got armpit Botox.
Oh, yeah.
If anyone needs to know, I have stopped sweating
in one part of my body.
Yeah, crazy.
Only 150 more places to go.
There you go.
Whoo.
I was thinking of getting foot Botox.
For heels?
For heels.
My feet really hurt.
Like I'm just too big to be held by these feet.
I just can't do it anymore.
Last trending topic, social media banned
in Australia for kids under 16.
16?
You're a grown person.
Just by the way.
16.
I was already on chat sites like A.S.
selling 40-year-old men.
Yeah.
I get to like 12.
Like let them build some character, some spiciness.
Were you on Omega?
Yeah.
Yeah, we were all on like the internet doing things
we should not have been doing.
But we were really discovering the internet
with the adults at the same time, right?
I feel like now the internet is so cooked
that you can't send a child.
Like it's like sending a child to war.
But you don't know what equipment
are the people that are trying to show.
So that I know that I'm fully addicted to the internet
and I am addicted to social media.
I need my hit, like I really need my hit of the internet.
When I wake up, I dream about the internet,
when I sleep, when I'm at the gym,
I want to check what's happening on reals.
They started confiscating my phone
at the gym by the way.
Like my channel would be like, oh my God,
love your cover and then you take it
and put it in his pocket for two hours that I'm at the gym.
And when I don't know where my phone is,
my hand starts sweating.
I almost didn't vote because they said
you couldn't take your phone inside.
We didn't go for that reality show because
that's what I wasn't going to do in Gats.
To take your phone away for 14 days
while they're taking care of your brain.
That's insanity making.
How can you take away my,
and you know what, I said I need to talk to my dog.
They were like, I said, talk about it.
No, it was definitely a talk to your dog.
Okay, last question I want to ask you
before we end this episode.
Yeah.
I'm so scared.
If you're a control freak, no.
You, I'm a big control freak.
Yeah.
If you're a control freak,
which I would like to admit that most women are,
and this is not based on any research,
it's just based on my gut feeling.
What are some ways that you can conserve your energy
and move through life and not face a burnout?
I feel like handing a delegation.
But when you delegate or no one can read your brain.
So I think you just have to like,
actually Ankita Hassel-Rani,
she had some real about she divides tasks
into four quadrants.
One is urgent and important that you have to do yourself.
One is urgent and can be delegated.
Some is not urgent.
It has to be delegated,
so you forget about that.
And then some is like not urgent,
but I'll get to it.
Here's my problem when you delegate a task.
The person you've delegated to,
how do you ensure that this is on their priority list
in the same way it's on your priority list?
Because that's why delegation fails, right?
Like that's why moms are cranky all the time,
because if I have 100 tasks to do,
and I have delegated one task to you,
I want to be able to knock that task off my list.
But if you take your own sweet time to do it,
then that mental load will be on me,
and it will get in the way of all the other 99 tasks
that I have to do.
No, but then your task,
you can't knock it off your list.
You have to put it into follow-up on x-wise.
Yeah, but isn't that more painful than just doing the task yourself?
This is my driver analogy, sweetie.
That's what I'm saying.
You can't sit in the car and just stare out of the window.
You have to take the wheels.
There's no one is coming to save you.
Like you have to take linking road on yourself.
You cannot wait for someone to take a u-turn
and then the signal is yellow,
and then they stop the car instead of speed.
It's the pits.
It's the pits.
You know, I've been burnt the other way,
where if there's a straight road,
and one car comes in your way and comes in front of you,
the people in my life have had the fucking annoying habit
of let me take a winding other route
because this one car is an obstacle
and I will reach 30 seconds later.
But that winding route takes you five minutes off.
My literally my family.
Imagine this.
One day, I am just sitting in Delhi having dinner
and I get a call.
Mom, your entire family has fallen into a ditch.
My mom, my dad, my sister, my entire family,
who I depend on is driving back home.
And there's a part of the road
which is somebody has covered with some like twigs and stuff,
but it's actually a cunder.
And my dad,
I think he was married to Google Maps as well.
Because he is in an emotional relationship with Google Maps
and he thinks she's a bitch.
Okay.
Yeah.
They are constantly fighting this fucking bitch.
Yeah.
All the fucking time.
And doing this entire emotional drama with Google Maps,
this man has driven the car this way down.
My entire family has seen their life flash before their eyes
for five seconds and they've fallen with the car seat.
Luckily, no one, nothing happened.
The villagers had to come.
Rope one person down.
Rappling.
Rappling.
Taken one one member of my family out.
So for me,
I would rather take the straight road
and get that five seconds extra of one person in front of me
and reach my destination safely
than this fucking adventure
of like,
let me take the road less traveled
because, you know,
tasks can be creative.
No.
No, I'm just saying you take the straight road
but take it faster.
And don't let people cut in line.
And don't let people cut in line.
You don't do it on foot.
You don't do it in a car.
And I will honk and I think road reaches one of the pillars
that this country is built on.
And I think the beauty about not following rules is,
like others not following rules is,
then I don't have to follow the rules.
And that's so cathartic
because everyone is shameless on Bombay roads.
So you can be shameless on Bombay roads,
which is fine till you have a problem.
And then who do you call if no one is,
yeah, well,
you're not going to reach.
I'm saying,
then you don't know who is going to come out
and save you because you don't know who to trust.
This is in my city.
Someone will come and save you.
Don't stress.
When did we lose the analogy?
I don't know.
This is an analogy.
I actually talked about it.
I'm looking for the last five.
The love has come out.
Someone will always come and save you.
You do you.
That's good in the world.
I did my entire five hours of therapy.
Close mouth.
Don't get fed.
You have to ask.
Have you heard of thinking that goes into you?
I did.
Yeah.
What about it?
It feeds you.
It keeps you alive.
Yeah.
It does.
So anyway.
I have heard of a thingy that goes into it.
Last question.
And I know that this is going to separate us entirely.
I know.
I know.
I can just steal the divide.
This episode is not.
There's never going to be a divorce.
It's right now.
If you're a teacher.
Yes.
How do you go about teaching someone?
About teaching someone something new?
Do you want them to learn it perfectly, immediately?
Or do you want them to learn Mota Mota?
And then once they've reached a certain level of proficiency,
then start tweaking and get them to a place.
Second.
Why would you think I was the first?
Because based on your linking road story.
No, I'm seeing the point is getting to the destination first.
However, you get there as long as you get to the destination.
There's no points for stopping at a zebra crossing.
There's no point for not breaking a signal that a Mota Mota.
But the point is getting to the destination.
Even if it means starting from beyond the starting line.
Maybe the real journey was having the burnouts that we had along the way.
Yeah.
Maybe the real journey was starting this podcast again.
Whatever that means.
I don't know if this episode has made any sense.
Our team is all staring with no expression on their face, actually.
So I can't read it.
My number is also increasing.
So I hope y'all, in their back,
we might be rastier than before, worse than before, less cooked than before.
But what did I just say?
It's about showing up.
And we are here on this bouquet white couch.
And where are the subscribers?
Burned out.
Burned out.
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