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Awesome, Matthews.

Yeah.

Take us to Toronto.

I mean, this was a miserable, miserable season with all kinds of questions to be answered

about their future and how they move forward in the off season before they're capped in

left with what looks to be a serious knee injury.

Could be the low point of the year for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

That's saying a lot when you look at the level of disappointment.

That is pretty evident when you know you're essentially a non-playoff participant.

You know, and this is a team that was supposedly built on promise.

But in that moment, you know, you saw your decorated leader in Austin, Matthews taking

out on a dirty play by Radco Goudus.

I mean, I think everybody can appreciate that Goudus knew he was caught there.

You know, he's got Austin, Matthews, who seem to be all alone, just point blank.

And you know, in the moment, I guess I would be willing to give him a benefit of the

doubt.

I don't know what he's going to do, but where you take away that moment of doubt is in

the extension of the knee and how he powers through Matthews in delivering that knee on knee

check.

So that's the hockey side of it.

If you're willing to call that a hockey play, and it sounds like George Parallels and

the Department of Player Safety are, otherwise it would be an in-person hearing and he'd be

getting six or more games.

So it'll be five or fewer.

But even more damning than that.

And I'm educated now to say that because the injury doesn't appear to be as bad as it

looked.

Yes, he's going to have imaging later today to fully diagnose the issue.

It sounds like a sprain or a strain and not something more damaging.

So yeah, he's still going to be lost for several games if not the remainder of the regular

season.

But the big takeaway was, you know, it pulled the curtain back.

You know, many people who are the naysayers don't love the way Craig Baroubae coaches, feels

like there's been a disconnect between coach and management and the players.

The curtain was pulled back now, right?

Otherwise, how do you explain how four other guys on the ice don't recognize what's

gone on and respond?

Now, do you have to see exactly what happened or is it enough to see your captain

lying face first on the ice?

I think it should be enough, right?

That's in the DNA of the athlete of a hockey player, whether you're a pewy hockey player

or a star in the national hockey league, to have zero response at that point is just brutally

unacceptable.

But it tells us something because again, you know, those who were chasing after Craig

Baroubae, oh, well, you know, he hasn't been able to get this team to play the way he

needs him to play, expects him to play, tells them how to play.

Well, how many times do you deliver that message before the player just doesn't want to do it

or isn't listening or isn't willing, right?

And so in that moment for a lot of people, oh, okay, I get it.

I mean, you shouldn't have to tell a player how to respond when his captain or his line

made or his teammate is lying face down on the ice after a dirty hit.

Yeah, it could be galvanizing.

We'll see how they move forward, but the takeaway was that they're needed to put your response

and there wasn't until they probably, you know, got the tar ripped out of them during the

intermission.

So if Craig Baroubae is playing on this team, I know where he is after that, it happens.

And knowing a little bit about Brad Triliving and his history in the minors, I know what

he's doing if he's on the ice.

Yeah.

He tried to build around a core that might be perceived as soft, a lot of tough veteran,

you know, physical players.

I understand why people are like, it's not work with Baroubae here, but like, he can't

give them his harder head is what he said the other day.

Correct.

And so it just feels like how he wants to coach is with a group of players that can't

or don't want to play the way that he wants to have his strategy.

Yeah.

And, but that's why the challenge moving forward is so daunting.

You know, if you believe in Craig Baroubae and Brad Triliving as a coach in general manager,

all right, when you allow them to try and go out and get players that are going to be

willing, who have the heart and have the smarts to play that type of game, man is out

of tall-ask.

That's really hard.

I mean, Triliving has been looking for those players.

It's not like Craig Baroubae doesn't tell his general manager, all right, look, man,

we're too small up front and we don't play with any sort of intestinal fortitude.

That needs to change.

We got to get stronger, bigger, and faster.

And they just haven't been able to acquire those pieces they haven't been.

But I will tell you this, and I don't think that Triliving would mind me sharing this.

He was his first year as general manager of the Maple Leafs, and I don't know if you

guys remember, but he was Martian and Timothy Lullagrand, and it wasn't good.

It wasn't good.

And there really wasn't much of a response on that play, either.

And there was either a team meeting called, or Triliving took advantage of a team meeting

and said, this will never happen again on my watch, doesn't happen.

If a teammate has taken out, then it's your responsibility as a fellow teammate to do

what's right, and show a response, and be a good teammate.

And to be fair, last night was the first time that I recall where we've seen it as glaring

and as blatant as that.

So look, I mean, I don't know what Keith Belly, who's, you know, now the boss Maple Leaf

Sports Entertainment views that play lack of response.

I'm going to guess that, like, you know, everybody else, you know, fans and media, coach and

management, didn't love it.

But they've got to look at the bigger picture, and there should be a full organizational

review at the end of the year, where that's where I want to get to.

But hold on, like, Belly needs to be part of that review.

100%.

Well, because you can't, you just can't wash his hands and go, no, okay, no, I'm still

the boss here.

But to, I get to determine the fate of Brad Trilliving and Craig Rubin, the coaching

staff.

You know, I think it's been bad enough this year that if you're doing that forensic audit

in review, then do it, do it, but start at the top and work your way down.

Leave me as a year in.

Is that right?

Because he had his opening press conference and he basically said, winning is the only

thing that matters.

Like, yeah, really, I don't really care for anything of subtitles.

Yeah.

Well, you're the long way away from that.

He's a guy that's bouncing around sports media.

I think he did some stuff over the European tour.

Like, if he's doing an audit, who's helping him?

He's not run a hockey club before, if I'm correct.

Right.

It's a good question.

And, you know, is that help internal under the umbrella of, of Bell and Maple E Sports

and Entertainment?

Yeah.

I mean, there's some experience voices there, not people who have run a national hockey

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Give it a circle of people that he would associate outside of his work environment.

Oh, I don't think there'd be a shortage of opinion.

There'll be lots of people who have some ideas.

But I always say the same thing, guys.

It doesn't matter if it's Toronto or if it's Calgary or any team in the National Hockey League,

any sport, when you're firing managers and firing coaches, who's ready or able to

step in that you can guarantee is going to be better.

And if Keith Pelley is around and he's making those changes to his hockey operations, then

isn't that really the definition of that decision?

You're promising your bosses that, okay, we're going to pay Craig Baroubaay up for their

remainder of his deal.

Likewise, Brad, you're loving.

Okay, good luck, fellas, but you're no longer wanted or needed here.

We're bringing in this person or these people to take your jobs.

Well, it's up to Pelley to say they're going to be better and they're going to take us

back to the Promised Land.

And I always say it.

I know the time in the world for Peter to war as an NHL head coach.

I do.

He's in that elite class of being an NHL head coach.

He hasn't won.

He hasn't won.

He had a superb team in Dallas and had his little spat with the game of Jake Gautinger,

doubled down on a two, three days later and he's not a work.

So to somebody pop up in the off season, I don't know.

And I'd say the same thing of management.

It's not easy replacing NHL general managers, especially in a Canadian market and a market

that has the volume of media and faces and voices that Toronto has.

And again, if we're talking about the future of the club and you're talking about a GM

and a coach, like if you're interviewing guys, like, well, what am I working with here?

Like, do we have Austin Matthews?

Am I allowed to trade Austin Matthews?

If I say I want to tear this down to build it up, am I now not on the short list?

Like, yeah, they have to figure out what the heck they're doing long term because you

would.

I agree.

And if you keep them around, I don't know how you get enough assets around them in the

next three, four years, they've traded most of the top prospects and picks.

Yeah.

And look, I would say that there's an undercurrent of concern.

And I don't know that it's concern that Brad Trillibin or Keith Belliav or Craig Baroube

has.

I would just say collectively out there that maybe Quinn Hughes as an NHL superstar as blazed

the trail here for these players who have the clout to look at their contract and go,

OK, well, I'm a year out.

OK, I'm not going to do it, Connor McDavid did and extend now.

I'm going to tell you two years in advance of my contract expiring that I'm probably not

going to extend.

And if you're not good with that, that doesn't sit with you as an organization.

Then bring me your trade options.

But here is the list of teams that I'd be willing to consider going to.

And maybe that list is one or two teams, right?

But it's almost the new wave and just a fortunate few players have that type of clout.

Let's be honest here.

Austin Matthews definitely has that level of clout.

Connor McDavid, of course, he does.

So it doesn't it feel like based on what we saw from you.

And look, Vancouver got a hell of a return for Quinn Hughes.

So if you're Toronto and you're not sure that you can turn this ship around as quickly

as you would need to to satisfy Austin Matthews, then that would have to be considered.

If Matthews, in fact, shares that sentiment and I don't know that he will, I think he needs

to see action in the off season and he needs to see promise that this team is going to

be better.

And look, we talk about a lot in this market.

And much has been made.

He scored last night, nice goal, got a bit lucky to be fair, but it went in the net, right?

And then we make a lot of the scoring growth that he just came out of.

And you look at the data and you show, look, he's had this many shots on that in his last

10 games or whatever it is.

Okay, but you're talking about an elite level goal score who isn't scoring goals despite

the fact that he's got these chances.

And he can sing the media about, hey, I'm still up beaten confident because I'm getting

these chances.

You know what he doesn't get?

The elite grade A opportunities that were put on his stick a number of times a night

by Mitch Meyer, an elite level playmaker.

So again, that's just another layer of the re-tool if that's what we want to call it.

You know, I mean, if Matthews is going to stay in Toronto longer term, then Toronto's

got to do a better job of finding better players to play with this man.

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