A Numbers Game | September 3, 2026 | Hour 3

0:00the number is told the story. Now he's down swandles 80 to believe in athletics. This is a numbers game with Gill. I like Xander gone decent hour number three of a numbers game at these sports betting hour. Feast and calm game plus I hard radio YouTube TV. Of course, series six of channel 189. It's Gill. Alexander Kelly. Bill is behind the glass for the hour. His crack is standing by. Just want to read a couple tweets before we get to crack Darren Frazier after a miserable betting day yesterday the only thing that can make it better is the smooth voice of Gillie with skinny Kelly and the Hall of Famer Bill Cracker Burger Thursdays are like the best elixir for the worst hangover ever. Let's go boys. Thank you. It's very kind of you Darren and this is from this is also from Montreal max. Oh, it's a great tweet. He says really great job by Gill with his questions during the interview with Jay Cohen last week that crack lined up but it does bump our billy and we need our unscripted fix so maybe a half hour of bill before after when a guest gets booked or even the next day as I do his PR work for him. Well, I hear what you're saying without

1:00further ado unscripted with the crack man Bill Cracker burger. Let's go. Oh, yeah. Billy, we are alive. People like to know a little reminder. A little live text from you there. You know, tweet tweet it out. So, uh, but I think that you know, I think that's the best thing about it. I think it's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing. The best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. I think that's the best thing about it. But I was on an extra segment before J Cohen last week. Max, right? Right. You guys have me and Aaron a 40? Yes, we a 45 so we were there were 25. Two Billy segments before. We did J got a lot of people didn't know. That's why I try to put that we are alive out there. Yes, I and just to let you guys know I had J on my podcast a week before so I told Gil the night before it dinner to listen. You're going to take the lead every question hog guy was a question no no but you you were I gave your permission to do it so yeah but yeah it is no but everyone said what a great and did the people that mattered you know

2:02we're in we're so as Gil this is Gil's words not mine we're so close to the sun that I see the views and I could see the views are maybe like 3000 views on I don't know I really don't know you know where I get like 10,000 views or 15 or 20,000 views sometimes on on on the YouTube where it was like three to 4,000 views or whatever it may be a couple thousand views you really have to know the industry 20 years ago to understand who Jay was and who Jay is and and let's face it Jay is Gil and I know where he lives now and he's living very very menial existence he really is in a very little apartment small apartment he's got a bunch of problems and he's he's trying to get through them it's a incredible story because it is an amazing risk taker is amazing entrepreneurial story it is amazing legal story it is an amazing reflection of how power can simply ruin your life

3:08if they're not in on it and then sadly it's it it even gets worse from there right where people you know a person committed suicide in all of this is partner did so and as you yourself on the day they they they they close and in all three of those guys yeah he's Hayden and Jay and and it was Steve who committed suicide and and as we pointed out of the interview it was Steve who the way that his brain worked it was merely a a function he was like he was the guy that made all the lines pre flop and an in game for world sports exchange back in the day for him often himself for lack of a better term was a also was a probability and a calculated mathematical decision you know yeah they yeah amazing I was shocked back then even though a lot of those companies were out of business I was shocked world sports exchange around it went out of business and guild did not hold you didn't hold any punches there you know I did you told them that you're gonna be know people are gonna be mad at you yeah and in the comments of my show there's a lot of

4:11people said you know I'm I'm owed so much money this and I didn't get anything and uh he wrote this book because he had no money he needs money I mean he he's applying for jobs which they're telling him he's not qualified so we have an HR person yeah that works for the company um you know and there's this one that uh she didn't she doesn't even know what 11 to 10 means but she says I'm sorry Jay you know good we invented live betting political betting uh cash out options in our own you know stock market kind of way better than what you see in sports was today and yet he's on qualified and you know he said I'm old but he's like my age like it's like in the mid 50s and I don't think he's even that it wasn't only the it was a couple questions I wasn't only the question about you know you're gonna have people who got stiffed right they lower left holding the bag I even know we have a coworker here dex it us after the interview I love the guild ask the question but I'm still mad at the guy oh I didn't know that yeah we even said who you say they owe me X amount of money right they still believe you get into this day they're like this is what he owes me uh but the other question I really did want to ask and I did ask of him was I get that all of this

5:16one against you right you and I didn't get a chance to talk about this afterwards last week I get that all these things happen to you you got to talk about Jay he got railroaded by the justice system by the leagues by that horrible judge that ruled against it was just such an imbalanced courtroom because of that judge I accept all of that but after all was said and done when you served your jail time that was the part that and I actually text a little with roxy about this that was the part that it was like uh could you have played that after all the calamity that happened to you would you like to have had that rest of the bag and he was very he almost was like what did you want me to do right I don't know man there was a I wish he hadn't renounced his citizenship I wish he could go visit his dad oh amazing he would still have more opportunities I think in this country had he not done that one of our followers asked why we didn't ask that and I don't know why which part about what Jay what's the reason why you just you were that mad that you just gave up your citizenship

6:21there's a part in the book I read the whole book there's a part in the book I can't remember what the detail was but he've glossed over it in the book where he said that was the final straw and it was something very sort of random where it was just an accumulation of everything and finally he just snapped on it right and he yeah he read and by the way he does make a point though to say that when he did make the decision to renounce its citizenship the the officer of the government that was you know that administers this said to him a couple times not just once are you sure you want to do this you understand that there are implications that once you do this you can't go back on this and Jay was like yes yes and so yeah it's a it's a it's a tough story it's an amazing story Gil let's start out the name of the book by the way odds man out odds man out definitely and everyone that in everyone that I know from the old days I mean literally I only talked about for your four of them all of them they don't even know each other and they all text me once they're going to you got to see this book Jay column put out so easiest way to get odds man out WSCX.com

7:23oh yeah that's right they they opened up the old website yeah oh god he said by the way off air he told us he goes that was a whole thing because I was like did you have the you are all the whole time he's like no we had to like get it back off the stadiums like from Kentucky because like some random thing yeah wow so let's start out with some of the Wacadouche in town all right so yeah sorry to who Wacadou Wacadou Wacadou the Pope of Greenwich Village people know that saying from there there was another movie too but anyway like do you ever see these guys that just hang around the counter and terrorize the staff oh yes so this is a Geno Savos Avastano and a nice guy I've met him multiple times and he's trying to sign up so I'm gonna turn the volume down he's trying to sign up for the contest here and you got this guy that just is just you know he's an eyeballer and he's just an eyeballer see what you're gonna see what you got there let's see I was at line at the win one time and someone comes up to me online and like looks around hey

8:25I'm doing we doing I'm doing you're behind like can I make a bet yeah no by the way but I have seen this multiple times so I was at the South Point last week making a video for Chris Andrews I'm gonna promote there they have a $25,000 contest and it's gonna be an overlay by the way five bucks for five of the free selfish plug here it's five dollars to get in pro or college what is it it's a pro contest they have every every year and it's you pick all the like the games and it's five dollars winner take all I'm sorry if I'm explaining it correctly but that wasn't the purpose of me talking about this but every year it's an overlay so I say for five dollars you got to do this and I'm waiting for this guy he's walking back and forth talking to the risk guys now that's a terrible job they thank God they moved the risk if you go to South Point you'll see that the left is a desk there with supervisors the walls a little bit higher but you can still see the heads of the the people that were in risk they actually move the risk to the back room for the most part because they were all out there originally but these people terrorized you you know what I mean

9:29that over everything you know so I see this guy talking to the one person who is there now and and I just let me wait for him to go buy because the billboard is up front by the counter there but I don't want I hear him he has a loud voice but I have a loud voice so I'm not trying to call him a big mouth or anything but he just had a loud in the end he was a big mouth but uh so I'm going to I want to I don't want to take this video of this bulletin board and talk about how this is a really good EV contest for five grocery dollars and the guy just won't leave and he's asking the dumbest questions to the guy here are some of the things he's saying and uh you know he basically terrorizing the staff finally he moves over to the tellers I said oh good here's my chance I go up to the counter get the phone out go to tape the thing here he comes again here he comes and I said that was nice to him it's sir I'm making a video for them he goes why should be in the video I couldn't believe it I said what what he goes I'm 70% lifetime I should be in the video 70% yeah I mean Chris has and these guys at South Point have to know this this this this wackado I mean

10:32yeah I have to now he's a big guy too but he just he was so arrogant and just like you know listen you could be that arrogant and you could terrorize the staff hit the hip-pow make sure you give it a money to take you know make sure you're tipping because you know they they take all this it's basically abuse you know it's tough to have a risk department up front or anyone up front they I have seen this I went over to Tuscan which is a circle location and I went to go to the sports book to enter a contest last year or two years ago whatever it was and you know I want to enter 10 entries I want to put 10,000 up and again enter 10 10 entries into in the survivor and this guy won't leave the counter I'm like I'm and you know he didn't look like the best kind of guy and and sure enough I actually got mad at the supervisor I'm saying what are you doing get this guy out of here I want to be able to be making hand gestures yeah I want to sign up for the come waiting to sign up but I don't want to pull out money in front of this guy you know but anyway I just wanted to I get it I get it I get it Savo I get your pain the the South Point is a particularly great place of characters one time I was at the ticket window there and

11:36someone at the next one recognizers like hey he extended his hand that shook his hand and Elba who was behind the ticket right without saying a word she quietly shoves a hand sanitizer to me wow I'm just wanting they're aware of all the goings on there comes back with crack numbers game a number of games on fee said these sports betting network unmatched transparency with records updated daily they're the sharp plays they also include AI betting analysis real-time global betting information and alerts directly from the pros it's getting the QR code on your screen for more sharp plays dot com cheap prop bets on Twitter do you guys think jacon was blackballed or was told he was overqualified but the reality is that he was blackballed I don't know about that for new job yeah I just kind of think that these people are dumb and they don't really recognize who he is yeah I think it's that too but interesting that he says

12:39that blackball though because I really didn't give that a thought you know Chris they do some search Chris of St. Bart's weekly nifty reminder no he says get him on police also carbon versus carbon revier versus Italian American go wow we told my two different joints I mean you told him on one place that's literally half the price if not 60% less Italian American Italian American club and mom and pop food off strip off strip and the atmosphere I like a Italian American club carbon is the best gourmet you know that that's I wouldn't be going to carbon if it wasn't for Gill Gill you know he likes the bougie carbon I'd rather be at the time I'm American this guy no but then carbon revier which we've been too far less yes they got a couple things that are out of control yes yes no the price I mean even carbon and they try to sell you the steak thank God we have a good waiter I try to sell you the steak you know Mr. Stakes no

13:39for the table no because I got sucked in the first time with a different waiter steak yeah you know we have this fabulous rib eye steak is on a bone and rarely done that 350 oh that's it yeah oh three feet and you want on those truth I even told the guys buddy I go to steak houses all the time this is just okay at best free 50 it was for the steak but shout out to Troy because our choice our waiter he's he's great and one of my favorite meals in the whole city is that it's the pork chop with peppers yeah that is one of my favorite meals in the whole entire city it's about 65 70 bucks I guess I don't know what it is I went even further off menu the other night there but Carbone Riviera I look my recommendation if you ever get to Carbone Riviera the pasta a.o.p. with crab wow that is my recommendation at Riviera we love that place though we love a vets we love mother wolf mother wolf is jam also I went the other Monday I went to Michael's Michael's was fantastic I forgot how good that place was over at the South Point

14:40literally it's a special place if you want to take someone for anniversary or a big event it it's one of them also one of the most expensive restaurants you have to have a comp let's just face it and Monday nights half price if you have your points oh I can't believe Michael's on that list it's all the restaurants in South Point if you have player points on your card from sports betting or the casino Monday nights wherever restaurant you go it's 50% off using your points so the meal for three of us was 450 bucks the other night and it was only 225 using your points so yeah that that's a great little perk Bobby Getty's weird comparison here but speaking of Pablo Tore knowing about this guay situation way before punishments came down M&M had been saying keep de murdered two pock and biggie in his wraps for years M&M best rapper all time by the way didn't didn't think I'd be comparing M&M to Pablo Torey today only on a numbers game well done Jared still genuinely get excited for the crack man intro music have a great long weekend fellas Patrick Kelly I will exceed

15:43my tweet limit does Vecid have a page listing all terrestrial radio outlets I know it's getting old school but if I was traveling I would support them do we have a page like that on the website at all anyone no no no okay I'm not sure if we do Patrick to be quite honest with you but I will I will look into that for you Tony Hernandez I love Thursdays who better than crack to tell it like it is good luck this football season thank you Tony and Juan at number one D Gen thank God it's a Thursday need my weekly dose of crack well Bill Crackenberger is here at Bill Cracken with the K is his Twitter wise cracks is the name of the podcast Randy McKay on this week oh wow what a this is a special episode if you guys want you know a plethora of advantage sports picks Randy broke down every division you know in the NFL and did a great job some of them real long shots like I was surprised to him to say that you know I was going by badmgm reading down each one because they have a first second third fourth you can bet each each on each team yeah exact exact is yeah but

16:45not even exact you could better by himself solo you could bet literally like Arizona to come in fourth in that division which they should you have to lay 20 to one on the know and Randy's like well I'll tell you right now I like them at coming in third at eight to one so that's just but you know it's hard to bet in these one way markets but sometimes you may find a gem or two and like Randy picked Minnesota to win the division and that was they're the longest shot they're picked fourth there were five and a half to one and he picked them he's very popular picked from from the experts this offseason really yeah well they haven't got the money the last couple you well remember they started out a couple years ago like someone to tell seven and oh wait you know they really started out great that was two years ago yeah but last year did not the quarterback situation there so also I put one up on my Twitter today one I forgot the one he picked on the Twitter but he picked one on Twitter that he liked I think it was Denver picked Denver but he went over every single one plus he he's a kind of a specialist in the FCS yes he is so he's given us

17:47some great college hockey over the years and some straight yeah and and these games that are on Saturday still are not lined here and most of the sports books that's why we can't give it out yet Caesar's has it yeah well watch the show you can he gave it out oh on your on your podcast he gave out like four of them okay because Caesar's draft Kings Fandall bet rivers and some of those places have it oh they do have it yes they all have them all right and that's let me say when you give out something that's most of the country has one of the new sports books that are I say new that's been seven years your right ears so it's just it's not good for Vegas unless you have Caesars but so you did give some of them out on the show I tweeted it out one thing there and the link is on my Twitter and Randy did a great job he'll be with us via via the computer though via via I guess the streamer the use so he'll be on throughout the year but Randy comes back into town every once in a while and he was here to see Billy Idol last night and he had the extra

18:51ticket and I turned him down oh he goes to Billy Idol last night he sent me some videos of it wow it well there's so many songs by Billy Idol you know I think I Billy Idol yeah he's got a song or two while I thought it was okay he kept on sending so many videos like five songs of course I knew him all but they're great songs I guess Billy Idol was that big in the 80s was it the 80s was that right he was the 80s yeah yeah so he was over at fountain blue and it was like the Rand the Rand go to the Rand the Rand show and and you think you know four or five songs and I knew all 13 like so that was so Randy was here in town we we did a show yesterday over at the Fez and I did a show at Dom DeMarco's yesterday with Jim Feiss we did a show yesterday and that's also on the on the internet which was Fez and I give out some great information talking about all different things throughout for the season it's about a 45 minute show so that's another show we did yesterday. Jim Feist always says to me how's producer number nine so much more than a producer he always says that's really killing yeah wow wow wow Jim yeah just

19:56getting over stage four cancer somehow wow man yeah he he you know he's a health guy yeah and he goes to Cleveland Clinic I mean he just really really fortunate for him. Ricardo asking is crack doing the Fox kickoff show this season again. To be honest what yeah well I do my Fox sports radio show on Saturdays on Sundays so that's what I do on Sundays okay six to nine it's going to be seven to ten though starting week one NFL East let's let's use East Coast time you know I noticed that after being in this media space I always use my time that's not the way you're supposed to tell things you're supposed to tell someone a time Eastern standard time so 10 to 1 p.m. Eastern standard time is going to be I thought it was over to be honest with you I thought it was the greatest run ever you know four years of Fox sports nationwide radio 500 networks lucky as can be how could a street kid you know these guys are all college-educated football players and I'm just barely graduated 12th grade I'm on there talking I thought it was all over and sure enough

20:59last minute a new sponsor came in and took over the show because I wasn't I want my Sundays back to my Sunday morning when you thought you were out I thought I was out and I was actually happy that I find it was a great run let me get back my Sundays a new sponsor came in for you know the raid I was getting so I'm I'm happy with that unfortunately the sponsor is illegal in one state in the nation you happen to know where it is Nevada yeah you're all just our guest I know I say that too much but we're geofenced away from seeing there I even went on draft Kings I then I told you what on draft Kings I can't get their lines the more I just wanted to see if they can't even get real yeah you can't get that you can't even get their lines here like oh god you can on you can on your laptop you just the mobile you can't oh that would list yeah okay yeah okay so so about laptop all right that's good to know yeah this is I never really heard underdog underdog 49 states you can get the lines you can't get the lines here even their fantasy the different kind of contest can't get so it's tough on a Sunday morning now it was the last week was the first week of

21:59together I'm I have to have my co-host send me what they're going to talk about because I can't see the lines now listen I know these of course I got a text to one said you could just use a VPN listen I don't want to use a VPN and someone saying oh you're used to VPN you said the hardest you know um I don't I know the people do that with the draft Kings and Fandals and stuff they use these different not even the VPN they you can control someone else's computer in New Jersey or something with you I am not doing I'm not doing that's a bridge too far for me I'm not doing that stuff yeah and god bless you we're hoping you guys tell them but I'm not taking part in that ego he gets frow tech on to the third round looking good so far more with the crack but we've got a bunch of questions including a more restaurant questions for crack multiple all the other sides build crack and burger unscripted it's a numbers game at decent these sports betting uh

23:04numbers game on fee set these sports betting network back on a numbers game on a Thursday the 11 a.m. Eastern hour you know that means unscripted with the crack man Bill Cracken Burger that's him right there on your screen to my right or to my left you your right at Bill Crackman with the KO Twitter wise cracks is the name of the podcast uh we get to eat some of the book Jay Buckley who just took a picture with you I guess is we're out there for we're out there for week two NFL still trying to line up a meal with Bill on me oh that's not uh maybe maybe not today yeah oh that was at the superbook great guy great guy uh purple Kevin 11 11 Gillis right I use uh the draft Kings website for work and always see draft Kings of Fandall on PC can't get in mobile but you can get on PC for the know in Las Vegas uh this from Dell mine the gap radio Jersey street smarts better than a Stanford education don't sell yourself short sir he says thanks pal Brock Landers since we're talking uh some Vegas food how about the palestation oyster bar oh yeah always a line he said I love that place and no when to go to avoid two hour weights I

24:05once waited like when I was this was like 13 years ago three hours yeah for that oyster bar still there they renovated it though right I think so yeah the whole casino is done they did a great job on the casino but still 14 shares so the oyster bar is literally a bar in the middle of the oyster bar casino floor yes right by the crap tables across the crap tables it's 14 spots the guy behind the counter was like you know at Yankee Stadium with Babe Ruth was playing right and but the pan rose and the jambalai and all the stuff you can get there the oysters the size of your head why is that one better than all the other station oyster bars I've been the the wrangle oyster bar and I've been to one other other one or maybe it's just a different oyster bar altogether actually but for some reason that palestation oyster bar and now I want to know mr. Landers text me privately what time do you go yes sneak in there they don't call a Harold Irvin can you ask crack if there vinegar peppers on your meal they are they are they're they're they're they're they're are a vinegar pepper and some sauteed peppers in there and matter of fact you got some appetizer

25:13yes I didn't even know they had with those off off menu off menu yes if you want to be good good connections there you want to be clever at carbone there's some off menu items yeah this was a this was roasted peppers or by itself with mods with I think they make it right there yes they cut the cheese right in front of you oh it's fantastic that didn't sound right but yeah they actually you know they're bringing out right there was still warm yeah so well world be free how does crack rate cafe 28 25 against oh that's great that's what that's a Atlantic City connection there that is a fantastic what a restaurant that is that that has become the the hardest restaurant they get into was always chefola which you're eating basically in the Esposito basement there on albion place actually but cafe 28 25 is also one that you need a reservation a long time in advance I recommend that place I recommend docks oyster house thing make sure you get there early bird special people line up for that and great great place spinner over a hundred years

26:17but cafe 28 25 that guy used to come down from Brooklyn every day I've never been finally moved down by Atlantic City somewhere closer and they just they have they bring a cheese wheel to this table and they make your pasta inside the cheese wheel I mean the things they do are unbelievable there cafe 28 25 yeah and make sure you you know you always watch put your head on a swivel there the after all that is on Atlantic Avenue but that part of a landings a little bit safer I talk about Atlantic City in a bad way a lot but hey I'll talk about it in a good way too great restaurants some great old school restaurants there always take a ride the we have a couple weekends left ocean city New Jersey a couple towns away one of my favorite boardwalks in America it's like literally walked into the 70s it's a dry town one of the only dry towns in New Jersey can't get any liquor the family fun town a couple towns away of course you have the long parts the Margates ventner beautiful beach towns over there but you just have to keep your head on a swivel on Atlantic City they have

27:21put no money back into it shame on state of New Jersey shame on Atlantic City shame on the casino executives I blame everyone for not fixing up those streets and keeping the garbage out of the casinos you have to watch yourself walking anywhere Kyle D dome dom Corleone 28 I was waiting for crack to end his story about waiting for the the teller not the teller but the the person at the ticket window of the casino with and then I heard him call her a funky beach yes think as a playoff will Hill story did you see this will Hill two week yesterday will Hill was at where was he in in Connecticut somewhere at at a casino and he just said that at fanatics in Connecticut thank you Kelly um the you know see they're all everybody's nice he's up but there's one lady behind the ticket counter who is just so unpleasant that's my word that will finally as he turned away after making a bet the other day muttered under his breath a curse word right um he actually had an adjective

28:25in a noun uh and she apparently though her hearing is great because she heard it and she goes oh I heard that and he goes good I'm glad it's true wow yeah I think he did send us in a group text he did yeah the more I think about it yeah and uh wow will you have fanatics over there wow wow wow they have Randy McCays uh the game he likes plus 14 there what game was that and what were we're talking about that game you can give it out if you want Randy told us not to but if you if you did he's already given away on your podcast he could do it yeah it's on the podcast you can do it tell him uh I got to find it now the jackrabbits of South Dakota state there it is so they at at fanatics they have a 14 uh you lay a dollar 15 but this 13 and a half minus 0 5 I see at seizures um I'm looking at some other sports by I've seen two 14s bet rivers so rivers and fanatics but I'm told if you go into rivers and fanatics they're checking pulse and blood pressure so just be careful those two play but yeah so Billy did it Randy not me he told them well I mean I know

29:27Randy didn't bet it yet it's really not fair but he why would he give it on my podcast plus 13 and a half you can get it he can actually bet it at seizures right now go to the counter plus 13 and a half minus 0 5 so um he could do that but going back to that counter situation which I said at the beginning of the show all I'm saying is and I'm not trying to be mean to anybody but when people are buying in for contest people are buying doing certain things and you know like you have to be aware you got to have awareness yeah like like let the other people behind us get to the counter or but I blame staff sometimes too for talking back yeah the staff should you know they have to say but they don't want to be mean to somebody well you know the worst is the the Sunday morning the flames are wrong wrong word I'm sorry the first Sunday morning of week one we sit here the whole network right we sit here we talk about NFL all summer long week one you know we just waiting for the NFL season to have a wait for the NFL season to happen the Wednesday night game happens Thursday night game happens Sunday morning 10 a.m. Pacific right there's somebody at 9.57

30:27a.m. yeah making an eight leg parlay and everybody behind because they've had all summer to make the bed is like oh come on with eight leg barley but you're right they get frustrated at the ticket writer for not moving it along yeah but it's really not their fault and and I said it yesterday with Fez on the on that fey show along every single sport I should say really it's actually representation it's every sports book in America not just Vegas there's always Sunday morning 10 to 10 a.m. when the game started 10 this people games shut out in every single sports book and why they don't know what a bet they're betting it to the most efficient line at 10 o'clock I mean you know Fez interestingly said something on that podcast yesterday it's not the most efficient line he said nine o'clock is the most efficient line and just trying to think why he said an hour before the game is the most efficient line not not at 9.50 so interesting I'm trying to maybe you have a month tomorrow yes ask him why I'm gonna guess because he's he makes the case that then the pros come

31:28in and bet it back the other way kind of yeah maybe that's kind of the kind of the way but I don't know if he's right about that right right right right oh and hook someone just bet that on wine see that I mean look at it and low vig just moved all over we got good listen like some listeners lucky Luciano crack I took my 85 year old dad to Italian American club while in Vegas he loved it the atmosphere and food is great I took an 80 year old man who was around town for years years ago and when he came back in town he said you know they close the time American club he said that was a great spot to go in the 60s and 70s I said well guess what it was just reopened so it was was after like I don't know I think it was closed for 20 years and I didn't know that yeah guy came in and bought him and maybe 15 years it was closed for at least a decade and a half and they reopened it and I took him in there and he weld up with tears this is like a tough guy too he's like this is

32:30exactly how I remember it a piano bar that dark everyone knows everybody everyone saying hello to everyone and it was really a special time so that again I know it's off the strip and it's down on the east side of town it's a harrah Sahara yeah and you have to get reservations you leave your name a number on the on their voicemail parking lot monitored by that individual parking lot monitored by by Paulie on sub on uh no what was that Rocky you're a rocky he has got the hat how you doing I ain't got a head guys get in there and he's watching the park and watching everything I mean Randy's gonna kill us oh hey where you are I haven't bet it so that's why I'm mad look at this yeah for Afkings bet on wine for the audience yeah Jesus gotta give the audience what ahead of you Tom Collins crack when I traveled to Vegas I go to Ferraros off the strip that he thoughts best hour on Vee City says okay appreciate Tom I used to go to Ferraros I did to go when it was on was an on-trop or flamingo by the old hard rock no back back in the day back in the day it was

33:32somewhere else and oh boy there goes the 14 what if we done 14 at fanatics has gone someone but 30 dollars and fanatics moved it instantly Jesus is down to 13.5 minus oh wait okay good thing we're not going to dinner with him tonight oh boy oh boy all right Randy you did give it out on the podcast which is very nice bet rivers is still 14 but they they locked you up to me about it all right so more with crack over commercial yes Jesus I'm a very enjouce a numbers game on Fee said these sports betting network if you missed our NFL futures draft from a couple weeks ago we made it really easy to catch up we took every pick from the show and put it into one free PDF all you got to do is sign up at vson.com or reason you don't miss out on you go to vson.com slash download that's all you have to do and you can grab your copy of all 130 plays listed out in order there's no sign up just go there vson.com slash download grab your copy

34:33all 130 plays listed out in order plus we included breakdown of all the picks by category so if you want to get up to speed or you want to clean reference come back to go grab the free NFL features draft PDF at vson.com slash download that's vsin.com slash download uh ready mk has texted yeah yeah he said crack what are you doing no i'm joking no he said uh I actually got down some don't worry but oh okay don't forget to sprinkle a little peanut on the money line oh there you go so uh if you if you're over at uh when this was there was the highest money line is at bet rivers they have plus five twenty five on the money line uh they're just again you know you maybe just better let the kiosk and run out immediately from the casino and uh make sure you have your sunglasses and fake mustache on okay fanatics plus four sixty um that is is the second highest I see but plus four thirty oh for those who missed it we're talking about South Dakota state jack rapids here now and you want to you know when it comes to that

35:36I don't have the number from randy but I would say if you let's say you've got a hundred dollars on the side I would say you put ten bucks on the money line so put ten dollars on the money line a hundred dollars on the side uh it's it's like what I say about no matter what I say especially on the Fox show people that everyone bets parles yeah you're gonna put it in parles so if you know I almost waved the white towel there I say listen if you're gonna bet a hundred dollars in a game you want to put a five dollar five team parlay in with it enjoy yourself it's fine but I don't do it I don't recommend to one by no you're gonna do it anyway people love parles but so yeah sprinkle a little bit on the money line if you like the if you like a game maybe 10% 5% especially if you can get down plus five twenty five wow that's a great money line on a thirteen and a half point underdog that's a little different than do it on the podcast because as soon as you say it on this show there goes the Christmas tree on it I was pretty surprised by this but I should have known better I should have known better uh that's easier to move right away and the and the 14s would start disappearing again Ryan Hyatt the great thing about listening to

36:38Gillen bill on an G each week is that you get the feeling these are pretty much like the conversations they'd have it supper together not a put on for the audience authentic thanks for letting us hang out with y'all Thursdays he says Ryan thank you so much and yes we will pick up this conversation to dinner it will be exactly like this yeah yeah this this is uh interesting situation here too because I got upset one last year when I gave out some games and people on the comments are going yeah that's it I'm done giving games out that's right and I didn't give any games out for a while and then two weeks ago I gave a game out it won cricket of course of course of course again now here's what will happen this week um northwestern world blow away South Dakota state and next week no one will say nothing to Randy no it'll be you they'll come after me yeah uh I shouldn't say like crack gave it out I didn't yeah I didn't yeah no but but it's it's part of the business though you have to take you know certain things um but I always people who are just waiting right their whole life's purpose is to sit around and wait for you to mess up and you know what eventually they'll get

37:39their chance yeah it happens yeah but you know what one thing great I could just tell people at and thank god I have good connections with all you guys and I tell them to block that guy so he can't see none of the shows no more this way you don't have to be take this I take the burden off you you don't have to be troubled anymore you could uh you just just block him block block and move don't argue with no one you know they'd all want to go to dinner with you Billy I have a couple of them that right now they're they're right now they're on the cusp they're on the cusp of being you have a list do you have two really that are in the comments right now you know one guy says you don't give what's so this podcast you have you don't talk about anything do you know nothing about the teams you don't you don't want to give any plays out that listen my podcast is a life style Vegas Lanark City gambling in general little nuggets little tidbits I prefer to think about something yesterday now we will give out plays but there's a casino in town that is offering a hundred dollars free right now to every anyone that's a hundred dollar rebate like treasure island was doing I got like two million views on Twitter for that but that it probably ruined the the

38:45actual promotion because they were supposed to go the next four weeks they ended it after three days so they just gave away millions of dollars and said we got to stop giving this $200 away well on my podcast and I'll say it here again so there's a place in downtown Henderson called Club Fortune $100 free roll get a card you play until you lose a hundred bucks and you get the money back same day now same day you get the you have to roll it over once but you know that there's some strategy there swinging for the fences to play higher than nomination than you normally play so play something uh... is if you play quarters or nickels five cents you want to play dollars or five dollars take a shot with that try to win something right away you know and if you win quit that's it if you win two hundred bucks you're done that's it don't give it back because you're now you have to you only get the hundred dollars back if you lose the hundred so there's some strategy involved there but it's a three hundred dollars for anyone uh... i really don't go to

39:46downtown Henderson too often i'm told there's a lot of little casinos there but the time i went i mean i i'm told there's a lot of little you know incentives maybe there the time i went it was so smoky i just couldn't take it now it's only one time yeah it's like going into like the gold coast you're gonna come out your your your clothes are gonna smell like smoke but it's a gambling joint let me tell you something the gold coast and orleans their gambling joints look at the tables how packed there look at the bakar out tables look at the the you know every table there that's again they give you low limits you could play i think you could play five dollars three to two blackjack but you have to put up with the smoke that's it these are these are not the ones here those are the ones that you're talking about Henderson now or you're talking about the ones those are the ones the gold coast and orleans was here those are smoky downtown yeah they're smoky downtown a lot of local casinos but downtown Henderson is it a water street have you been down there is this okay what's the area of Henderson were like the passport offices it's like that you feel like you're in the old west all of a sudden that that is probably it people are gonna know more than us here uh it's like you

40:49can almost picture the tumbleweed going across the street yeah i was like where have i been transported and then be careful about speeding there because the Henderson police do not fool around yeah they're giving you tickets of benefit technically the m casino is located in Henderson yes it is so uh so anywhere over there they are they're they're just a tougher cop than the metro cops well that's interesting in Vegas yeah they're not they're not letting you go that's like uh DC when i when i used to go back visit my parents and now my my old friends there once you cross the Maryland border into DC the vigilance of the traffic right police if and i'm talking about like it's a 35 mile per hour speed limit if you so much as dare to go 41 right by the way you're fighting your car back at like just to go you know to go slower they will they will you know they was there's cameras they picture so my mom would be like do you go did you speed i'm like speed uh 41 did your mom drive yo you just did not well but you drove good it was like the old time

41:52just like a war out there with the ground in the drive of a street my grandmother didn't drive and my grandmother never drove my grandfather only drove so i just figured maybe it was the same thing before we get off here uh if there's there's some great packages downtown here if you just google lost Vegas all inclusive Vegas uh vacation packages wow i think the one circus still going you get two nights for four hundred bucks all in but you get two hundred dollars back in food so it's a hundred dollars a night you stand at circa wow i mean there's the plaza has one um the golden nugget has one there's some really good packages around town um i guess we have to get into this grand disomo before we go off air you're right i talked about being in the grand disomo and uh you know my my buddies down in uh south carolina and i told you we were gonna have an entry last year broke down the talks broke down twenty third hour we only had one entry instead of two um but yeah so explain i want to know what people think about putting an entry in my name and it's his money

42:53it's his money putting entry in my name of course all the tax implications and everything will be taken out you'll be putting in the week the picks every week i'll be putting the picks in every week and i'm the responsible for this for this entry i'm responsible for the money what do i deserve as a free roll okay so now my memory serves if memory serves last year you suggested 25 percent to start a little high and i told you easy buddy yeah you said 20 i said 20 yeah 20 so uh even that's even that's a little bit maybe you're you're getting there now getting there now so anyway uh what's the number you've come up with now 17.5 17.5 okay and you know when you're at the auction house sold sold i think that's a sold 17.5 now listen it's a lot of money i was gonna put up my a third like i put up a third before yeah but why should i put up a third and get a third of the contest if i can get 17.5 he's not gonna hear this so it don't matter so why should i put that up when i can get 17.5 free don't put up anything right we should have done this earlier because people could have written in what they think oh yeah they'll they'll they'll they'll i'm sure they'll comment or something but

43:56so that's just interesting thing we are way ahead of pace for everything here it's a lot of responsibility by the way a lot of responsibility yeah it's a lot of responsibility yes you can't mess that up can't mess it up yeah no uh we were ahead of pace for all these contests here oh yeah oh my god well i think all survivor maybe a little bit of a uh maybe good but the millions maybe a little bit of an overlay are we gonna get to like 27 in survivor or something like that the goal was like 23 i think we got we got that we're gonna get that we're getting 25 for sure 25 but 25 million dollars i think we may soar over that we by the way Derek because he's there and circa survivor which is just insane insane this is gotten so popular it's amazing i'll popular this is amazing and of course the grandest of all is already over with the guaranteed yeah millions maybe the value what was the first survivor 1.3 million or something like that i'm like thank you billy thank you guys prop points is next enjoy from these sports bending network