A Numbers Game | September 9, 2026 | Hour 1

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1:26Ask your prescriber about Wigovie. Ask your prescriber about Wigovie. studio. Oh boy. By the way, the Megapod reviews are in and it's not favorable to Todd. Turns the interruptions. We'll see if he can keep it to a minimum here.

2:28Glad you said that you're not that conversation off air, but I was like, man, there's a lot of negative time. I was ready to strangle in within five minutes. But I love him. I love him. Same, same deal. If I like brothers, Matt Brown will join us as well. Little later on, it's, you know what's NFL season when Matt Brown's coming on the show. The grant, Mr. Grandissimo himself got to talk to him about that. So it's the foremost. Uh, yeah, like when did he finally make the decision to do that? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I think it was sort of last minute. Well, he's couching it as a legacy club. Next thing you know, I'm signing up for Grandissimo. I'm probably going to guess that's not how that actually works. He's probably been concocting this for a while. I told you he, he, I knew he had been talking about it for months, but good on him. I didn't, I didn't get the feeling it was close close as of like a couple of weeks ago. I would like Mateo Marano, Matt Brown to win. Grandissimo. That's who I'm rooting for. Me too. Okay. Uh, tennis yesterday. Let us start there before we get to football. And this has nothing to do with sports, but this LSU thing is fascinating to me.

3:31I just love this story. Crazy. Uh, tennis yesterday was epic for as bad as like the matches were on Sunday. Was it where they were sad? I can't remember what was the day where they were just boring matches. Yesterday, the first half of the quarter finals start to finish was just epic. We hit our over in the Noescovo Sabalanka match. Sabalanka ends up winning that in a third set tiebreaker. Then, uh, then it was the Frances Tiafo big foe against Alex Mikkelsen. Mikkelsen. And by the way, I was thinking about playing Mikkelsen, right? This would have been another epic. Collapse. Mikkelsen was up to sets. He was serving for the match in the third up five four. Foe breaks him wins the match in five. And big focus. That was crazy. Frances Tiafo gets to his third US Open semi final in five years. He is a home road split kind of tennis player. I am, uh, I tech. I was texting with Zach. The hardwood handy cap was chat was fire in a way and active during that tennis match. Yeah. Correct. Because JVT and I were locked in.

4:31It was just an amazing match. I'll ask you the same question. I asked Zach Mikkelsen. Someone like, okay, is this a, is this, was this a nice run in a nice story? Or is this actually an American tennis player, uh, to watch going forward? He's a really good hardcore player. Okay. He's always, he always has been in his, in his brief career. He'll be, he'll, he'll be on the scene for a long time. Okay. I don't know if he ever wins this land, but he's, he's a great hardcore. That was fun. And then like eight collapsed in Tiafo's shoulder, just weeping at the end. I was tough like that. I was, I was, it was, that's a moment in sports, though, right? That sports right there. Well, it's tennis. What if there's no, I mean, there's no sport like tennis where there were that, uh, other than tennis where you really see that kind of thing. Two guys going at it for that long and then just, oh, yeah, we're friends. And that happens. And then Jesse Pagula, the Battle of the Billionaires, which is the one that Kelly was the most interested in. The bigger billionaire, meaning more bank account, she beats Pagula beats Navarro, but she could not shake Emma Navarro. Uh, Jokovic fan underscore day, and he said, you know, so in quarterfinal match between

5:34Pagula and Navarro, officially the richest match in tennis history, the Pagula family net worth $11.8 billion. Remember her dad owns the bills and the sabers, the Navarro family net worth three, a poultry, three point two billion combined. There were 15 billion for perspective, Jokovic, Federer and Adal combined are worth 1.5 billion. So yeah, but, but Pagula gets it done. It was, it was a steely match. She gets it done in three. And then last night, it began at 11.05 PM Easter. It's going to say, man, there was no way I was making it through there. I was getting ready to go to bed when that thing was getting started. Uh, it was just, you know, you knew it as it was starting, right? You knew you're like, this is going to, like, what if this goes five sets? Yeah. This is going to go well past the latest match in the history of the US open. And sure enough, it did start at 11.05 PM Eastern, it ended at 3.33 AM. No, no, what was the scheduled time kill for it to begin? The schedule time is when the previous match ends.

6:35No, but don't they don't they usually throw a time on there when knowing it's going to be pushed. They do, but it's meaningless. And by the way, and of course, for those who missed it, Ben Shelton beats Carlos Algaraz in a fifth set tiebreaker. So in the three quarters yesterday that happened three of them ended in final set tiebreakers. And Ben Shelton takes down a Carlos Algaraz in what was just a phenomenal match. But 3.33 AM is when it ended up Eastern 1233 here Pacific. And now we are down to six because the back half of the quarters is today. And everything is tostada in terms of the futures. Sasha's Vera is your short shot down a win at a plus 110 Ben Shelton plus 140. And that's correct. Right. The other guys are sort of including big foe and hatching off. They're they're not in that same level as Sasha's Vera and Ben Shelton, but who knows anything anymore. Disternament. I mean, this is like the bottom three on this graphic look like a look like the first round

7:35of a grand slam, not the in quarter final semi finals. Is that fair gill out? It's a good call. The I'm in a bit. I don't I know you're not in the same boat, but the I think there's a lot of people out there that have been Frances Tiafo fans for a long time and have burnt some outright tickets on them. Of course, I don't have one for this US open. What it feels like by far his most likely chance to capture a grand slam. That's still not going to happen. I don't think so. I don't think so. Man, you love. I love to see it just because it's just Vera just because it's Vera Ben Shelton, but I'd love to see it. I got to hope he beats that crap out of Shelton. Oh, God, what I love. They're both Americans and I could not be on on further sides apart. How much I like and hate one. I think you reflect most people's. Okay. Good. Let's go Frances. Let's go Tiafo. And then today, so we did hit the one over yesterday. It was only play yesterday. We have two today. They're both on the spread. Coco minus three games versus Mira Andreva. Coco has dominated this head to head.

8:36Five to nothing. And Mira Andreva has a little issue when the crowd it goes against her. So this is sort of a confluence of like this one. Fade Mira with Coco minus three games. And then Karen Hatchinov minus two and a half games versus Alexander Blocks. Karen Hatchinov is one of these guys that through the years, even in the best of times, he's like my Irvin Santana. I never get him right. But Blocks said he almost, you know, we had blocks in the last match. We won on him. Yeah. He said he almost quit in the middle of it because of a rib injury. Oh, that's interesting. So I'll take the, I'll take Hatchinov the veteran minus two and a half, trying to get to a open, fine, open semi over a compromised Alexander Blocks. So those are the two Coco minus three games. Hatchinov minus two and a half. Like perfect example of what I'm talking about. It's like the US open semi finals bet the first one that kills betting. And then we go out to bad Humberg in the middle of June for the second round matchup between block X and Hatchinov. They all count the same. They all count the same. They count way more for those guys.

9:37I went to look at this super bowl matchup to bet the Ravens and the Ravens and see how you were talking about that yesterday. What number would you require to play that? Raven Seahawks. We love this game. Love this game. Okay. Raven Seahawks. I don't even know what shortest matchup odds were. I was disciplined. I'm going to say that they, I'm going to guess the odds were in the teens. And you were hoping for like 30. It was 35 to one. Oh, okay. I was still disappointed. I was like, okay, and I mean, I get it right there to there to favor it's. Mm-hmm. But I was like, really, before the season, am I going to bet a matchup at 35 to one? Yeah, I don't know. Every time I get excited about one of those bets, I leave with that exact same feeling. I guess, oh, okay. I guess I'm not betting this. What was the, what was the shortest matchup? Rams who? Well, you know how this goes because you got it. It's not, it's not searchable that way. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Sorry. You know, that's right. I'll, I'll, hey, look, we'll do it. We'll do it live. I mean, we're, I was the shortest AFC team. I'm not, it bills. Rams bills. Got to be Rams bills.

10:38Right. Yeah. I'm at the Rams currently like 12 12 15. Oh, guess what? They didn't put the Rams in the proper alpha of beta quarter. So I still can't find them. Um, yeah, I was shouldn't even try it on this. Yeah. It's probably bills Rams, right? Um, and, uh, bills Rams would be 20 to one. Okay. So I was going to short on where they start. Yeah, Bill Seahawks 35 to one. So Bill Seahawks Raven Seahawks, same thing 35 to one. Yeah, I'm with you. I just know. No, it's not super. Oh, just to give equal equal time here, odds to win the US women's open. We're going to have a lake after her, uh, third set tie breaker win yesterday over NoSQL plus 140. She is the short shot. Coco, we're back in a Pagula, Andreva, Jank should win. As I mentioned yesterday, besides Emma Navarro in the final eight, I could see any of them winning on the women's side at this point. Yeah, I was going to ask you that. Yep. And this is wide open still, right? Six left. Yeah. Go anyway. Man, I've got Pagula five. So I don't know why that's current price on Pagula.

11:38She won that match and she was like six to one before that match yesterday. I would love to see her with it. You talk about big foe on the remence. I don't love to see. Yeah, yeah, love to see. Hey, man, I know she's got billions, but you know what? There's a lot of there. There's billionaires and 100 millionaires out there. Guess what? They don't end up being the top five and anything in their life. I hope everybody knows I like to make my jokes. It takes nothing away from these, these girls getting to this level of competitive tennis. You have to work your ass off. It is not. And sure she had, okay, she had the country clothes. Yeah, the lessons. Yeah, no, it's all true. They still don't get to top five in the world. Exactly. Yeah. You know how easy it is for those people to quit, do what it gets tough. Yeah, mom, dad. Yeah, I figure I'll stop this. It seems like a lot of work for you know what's waiting for me. Okay, we'll come back. Let's talk. Seahawks and the Patriots. Todd Eight, Rams Niders tomorrow. And I do want to bring up this LSU because this is crazy. Next on our numbers game. Hey folks, it's Tim Murray and here we are.

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14:43Bending systems contest strategies and fresh bets from Vesan's experts. You also receive our college football betting guy with previews of all 138 FBS teams. Sign up now. You also get daily best bets real time betting. Listen, draft games in circa AI powered prop tools 24 seven video in the VESAN watch app get started for just 999 or save 50% with a VESAN pro annual subscription head to visa.com slash subscribe now. That's V S I N dot com slash subscribe. First tweets of the day. We get them. It'd be in the book mortal capper. What an incredible day of night on ash at the US open one of the best overall days in recent history. When we finally get an American champion on the men's side. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. It has not we have not had a men's champion. A men's grand slam champion any slam since any Rodic one the US open to 2003. Got a definite shot here. Okay, we're in random specials that were listed in this was like two to one as of like two days ago. Any American player to win the tournament on the men's side. Of course, only the S price is listed, but it is minus 110. It's coin flip right now coin flip right now.

15:44Yeah. Any interest in a no price on Sasha's. I'm not interested in anything anymore. Yeah, yeah. I have drew his attitude. Drew's attitude is the tournaments over for me. That's it. Football stars. Yeah, not interested in anything, you know, besides individual matches. That is J M McDonald nine wondering your thoughts on junior Kemen, year old 14 to one for AL MVP. He's closed the batting average gap with your down to 29 points, one ahead in homers and within two RBI. If you can stay ahead in homers, pass them an RBI's there extra consideration for him. If the race get the number one seed in the AL. So just to let people know what's going on here. So you're not Alvarez's quest for the triple crown, which would only be the second triple crown winner since 1967. As fallen on hard times here with less than three weeks left. Because as J M McDonald just pointed out, coming year old now tops him in homers by one and Pete Alonzo tops him in RBI by two Alvarez still clinging to the batting average.

16:48Lee. So whoever forget the 2026 season from Peter, Lonzo, but two, it's right. But to answer it, but to answer your question, J M McDonald, no, I don't, it doesn't affect MVP to me. Your none is still winning MVP. I think it's, I think it's a fair question. Yeah, but in something to monitor, right? But yeah, I think we're probably just running out of time here. No, Amy Doug. Thanks for the Alcarez bets. The sweat was real. The outcome was bad, but it was great fun to have the opportunity. Yeah. Again, third set tiebreaker. Good to go on either way last night. John Baldurcy shooting an ad today, camera operators, T-shirt. Did you see it? Oh, yes, they did. Amazing. What is that? I don't really understand it, but it's amazing. Edgar Allen, Iverson. Yeah, he's doing though. He's doing our step over. Man, he's doing the walk over. But what's the Edgar Allen Poe reference? Yeah, I don't get the reference, but I love it. Anyways, this is from, let's see, this from Paul Paul Zang. Oh, Derek told the Matt Brown story on follow the money last night. Well, we'll get it from Matt Brown's from the horse's mouth today here on the show. Cause I did not hear that.

17:49New York football, John's 42 nice went for Pagul if she wins the US Open. Do you think she can use that money to finally buy her parents a house? I'll hang up and listen. Three Jacques H3131 Gill will Kelly being pulling will Kelly be pulling another power outage when Todd is on just in case you actually struggle him. Can you set up a live blood pressure monitor during his appearance? And okay, JB Shelton 40 to one T. off of 121, both of you Van D'Azant, she'll be 100 to one to win the quarter. So do not bet on them to win. He says, give all those Patrick Kelly. Good morning, gentlemen. Block X compromise sounds like a not so good movie today. I think a great movie time. I like I would see that block X compromise. Great action movie title Jason Statham's definitely in it. No, Amy, you dug Ben Shelton out one for 18 against top three players. Great, great tie breaker player, though, that's for sure. And then Paul Nelson, I hope you're right about the Seahawks. What about the healthy O line versus the Pats? The loss of our OC, QB coach and offensive line coach losses on defense,

18:49the current injuries in the secondary and Iman Worry isn't 100% Seahawks favored by three tonight, only three. This moved from three and a half where it was perched for a very long time. And is now minus three, minus 120. Again, were you surprised by the move I was. Yeah, I was. I was. I think a great points. I mean, look, great points from that last tweet. I'm just going to sit here and regurgitate a lot of them, I guess, but it is. I understand why we're not looking at like the in exact same line or a comparable line to the Super Bowl. I think you could easily make some arguments as that last tweeter did about. Okay, some of the health issues, some of the guys that are gone in the Seattle secondary and just overall right kind of walker gone, boy, Maffe gone. Oh, offense, a coordinator change New England. The offensive line was banged up in the Super Bowl. You bring in an AJ Brown. Now you're a little bit healthier there. I get all that. You'll get all that.

19:50But when we were sitting four and a half on a neutral and now you're telling me I can lay just three with Seattle at home with a historically very good home field advantage. I ended up bad. I joined you yesterday last night. I with this was three. I was staring at a 3114 first game of the season. I'm betting a little bit on Seattle tonight. Um, and then there's the, there's the notion of what was bringing this up. I haven't heard anybody bring it up with a Patriots yet this year. Maybe it's just us who didn't bring it up on average. Super Bowl losing teams post a record. I have this. Of roughly 10 and seven in a 17 game season. The following year. Oh, okay. I thought you were going to week one here. Yeah. Week one week one. Here it is. Super Bowl losers and week one six and 20 against the spreads since 2000. That's for bet lab sports. I know these are looking at Gila and I are not the biggest trend people. I would tell you there's been a lot of time between the Super Bowl and this game and a lot of changes on both these teams. Yep. I don't, I'm not really reading much into that. But hey, it's week one.

20:51I know some people like some trends. I wonder. I mean, here's the thing with trends, right? But the trends that I am accepting of regardless of sport is if you can sort of intuitively make sense. Right. Explain it. Right. Yeah. Can you, is there any way to make sense of this? In other words, we talked about it with the blue jays last year. Blue jays got not only to the World Series, they got to game seven and they lost game seven in the most dramatic fashion. Yeah. You could imagine with Rojas and then Pahe's making those unbelievable defensive plays for the Dodgers and game seven. I'll never, I will never soon, I will never forget those plays. And then I think it was Will Hill who first set it goes now just imagine the mountain that the blue jays have to climb after losing game seven. You have to go back to spring trading. You have to live through that. You got to play 162 games. Now, I do think the blue jays are going to sneak in to the post season, at least I'm hoping they do because I obviously have them in September. Nice blue jays went yesterday.

21:52What is there is there an equivalent is that a, is that does that makes sense to you that a team that gets to the Super Bowl and does so on one of not the easiest schedule we had a few last year, but in a historically easy schedule. Yeah. Now has to start it all over again with a much more difficult schedule and starting maybe arguably in the worst venue for opposing teams in the league. I mean, look, I think the, I think the, the will Hill example with the blue jays is maybe the one of the best I've heard because I think baseball. Okay. You've got what a shorter off season, right? You talk about world series spring training, pictures and catchers report real quick. I guess baseball, I'd be a believer where there's actually a hangover effect, but even with that, even with that, you're talking about months in between new players, new teams. I mean, isn't hope springs eternal right every season. Everybody's re hits that reset button. So I, I don't know. I'm with you, but I guarantee you there's people listening who are nodding their head or like, oh, absolutely, I get it.

22:53I get why that trend is what I mean for this game tonight, I think, I think you could maybe say it matters a little bit more, but I'm more of a believer in just the revenge part of it from the Super Bowl. More so than more so than just the lose you believe in that, the revenge notion. I believe that the after all the, how those seasons ended, the patriots feel like this is a very, very big game for them tonight in the Seahawks saying, we just want a Super Bowl this is week one. We have a, we have a full season ahead of us that we care a lot more about. I think when I was a kid after the dolphins play, no, maybe that was a different year. But they got a gild, we talked about all these things. Any of these things don't like that by going to the window based off of something just like no, not all this, but, but week one, you are going to the window based on all kinds of, yes, things that none are based at any actual football you've watched. No, it's very true. So it's just different levels of what you believe is better bowl information. And right now week one, the challenge is always, it's someone said it this week, week

23:56one, the challenges, you know what? Get the three and two in your millions move on. I'm on the Seahawks tonight though, just because rather than anything about revenge, I'm certainly not basing it on that trend. I just believe what I saw in that Super Bowl was a Seahawks team that almost shut out the New England Patriots. And while these teams are different and while it is a different cast of characters, it ain't that different. Where do you look? No, I'm with you. Where do you land on the total? Because you and I have not talked a lot about this. I've heard a lot of love this week. No thought on the toe. No, I've heard a lot of over loving the kind of we broke down some of the changes. I understand why you could expect some more scoring in this game tonight than what we saw on the Super Bowl. But man, it is hard to forget how hard points were to come by in the Super Bowl for what, three quarters for both of those teams. Hey, I complete pass on that one for me. More likely to have a terrible game tonight. I'll use the word terrible. Well, those are the substitute terrible most likely to have a subpar game tonight.

24:58Sam Darnold Super Bowl hangover Drake May coming off a year where perhaps he should have won MVP. Such a great question. I'm have an unfair answer for the Sam Darnold always. Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold and it was the easiest answer right away. I was about to say pad answer, but that would be a reverse pun. Coming back, we'll hill all his bets. It's a numbers game right here at Veecin. A numbers game on Veecin, these sports betting network back on the numbers game. Who's the party though? The new one. Let's get out of the Xander. That's Kelly Bidlin right there. Television's Kelly Bidlin, everybody. Soak him in. Soak him in. Ladies enjoy it. Possibly James Fessler on Twitter won't spoil the Matt Brown story, but you get you could get a dozen guesses and not guess what LSU players on Matt Brown's grand DC mot team. Interesting. I have. I have no idea. I have no idea.

25:59Yeah. All I know is a Ricky Weeks lace the double off of it. That's right. That's right. I like 18 times at the past three weeks. Phil knew am I crazy to take the Titans week one of survivor. I can't get him out of my head. Well, I don't know if you're crazy, but you got a pair on you. That's for sure. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm on the jets, but it's definitely no more crazy than us sitting here talking about liking the Raiders week. Well, true to that. And Jason McKinney, I'm out of town for meeting. And when I walk into my hotel room, I see this unpalatable water option. It's like I'm staying in a low class motel. I complain. It's at a link to your taste test. I'm waiting for the reply. Showing us a picture of Evian. Let me just say this. Jesse Pagula post batch conference yesterday had Evian in front of her. Love that you figured that out. And yesterday I had to go get water because I was running out of water. Guess what I bought? You still went to Evian. Still went to Evian. You still went to Evian. I'm not going to let one or two sips out of one of our plastic cups. Oh, that's where he's going to now. Ruined the feeling of Evian out of their natural bottle.

26:59That's definitely not made out of plastic like our plastic cup. That's right. It's a different kind. The different dispenser at the top. By the way, here's the update on September wins. This is starting to feel like the month where the Dodgers just say we're not losing any games. Dodgers sole possession of first place right now is a six and two in the month of September. Remember, they were my third choice. I just didn't like the price. Six and two are the doyers and then a scrum of teams. Eight other teams with five wins, including in that group, our blue jays, our Red Sox, both at five and three. So one game won win behind the Dodgers. The blue jays for us is a circuit bet with tie breakers. The Red Sox is a dead heat William Hill season's bet. Let's go Red Sox. Go blue jays and Dodgers do your part. Lose a couple games. Yeah. For a win. Lays gentleman. He is the host of the should a bet more podcast comes to you three times a week. He is on Twitter at not the will hill to ease on the the and he is a star of the megapod.

28:01One of the stars. That's Todd Wischneff's podcast. It's will hill everybody courtesy the progressive guest line. How you doing, Willie? Boy, what's going on? Thanks for having me. How great is this? How great is it to still have something you get this excited about in life? Start a football season. I just I get excited. You know, as much every year as I do the next year and just it's like Christmas morning. It really is. It really is. What do you enjoy if we had to isolate one day of the sports calendar? Let's just take betting out of it for a second. Well, I don't maybe want to include betting. What's the most excited you get as an adult as an adult still to this day? I'd still probably go the first Thursday of March madness, but it's close with about four or five other days. Yeah. I think it's first Thursday of March madness to or you know what NFL draft is a sneaky choice also for me. Mm hmm. NFL draft is a dangerous and then the first Sunday of the NFL. I think I was going to say I think that would be my call first the first full Sunday in

29:01the end of the season. Yeah. Wednesday. This is not having this game on a Thursday. I want to say I was like a senior in high school or maybe freshman in college like O20304 somewhere in there is when we first started doing this. All right. We'll have the Super Bowl champion play on a Thursday. But for the most part from what I remember before that it was the season would start on Sunday pretty much everyone would just play on Sunday, right? Yeah. That's how it's how it used to be back in the dark ages back in medieval times. All right. Let's start with baseball will Crescendo back to football. You have a couple baseball plays for us today. Yeah. I'm going to go under two and a half first three Houston and Philly. Really good pitching matchup. Hunter Brown was not been like typical Hunter Brown great, but he's still really good going against Sanchez. I thought about playing the under eight. I thought that eight was a little high, but you know, even number small ballpark. If it's four four you lose. I don't want to sweat out bullpen. I don't I don't mind the under eight, but I'm going to go under two and a half first three. Maybe I'll get a little help from that Philly base running because I don't know. I think you were watching some of it last night. I've never seen worse based on where they had men on first and second. And the guy up I think was marching a ball dead center deepest part of the park.

30:05The centerfiller jumps can't catch it falls over. It caroms all the way like right field. I thought inside the park three run homer. The guy on second bomb almost gets thrown out at the plate. And then they did the old freeze on a line drive. The next batter guy on second takes off like a bad out of hell doubled up. And I guess so sub later innings hit a ball admired it and then I get thrown out. But boy, that is some horrible horrible based running from Philly. Not why I'm betting it here. I just was my mind was blown watching that as great as the pitching is. I think based running in defense in today's game. Well, it leaves a lot to be desired. But good pitching match up first three under two and a half. I'll be sweating this here. I guess a little bit before the little appetizer here for the football game. Who was the who was the guy in the ninth who hit the shot off the so maybe so was it so so he admired a shot like that cost them the game. That cost in the game. And I don't think the announcer said anything about it. No, it's brutal. It's amazing. Okay, college football, despite their 60 minutes and one second win over Western Michigan.

31:06You are on Michigan this week. Plus the points. I am. And by the way, I did play Yankees minus one and a half two word. A little bit judge Mike, you know, didn't day off to a settle in after coming back yesterday, but they should they should light up so Yankees minus one and a half is a play for me as well. But I'm going to buy the dip here with Michigan. I know. You know, it's it was ugly, not just with the quarterback, but they couldn't run the ball. You figure out your quarterback struggling. You can just line it up and run it on Western Michigan. And we all know what a travesty that was Saturday night. But you know what, the defense still played well. They're going to hear all week. They're no good. They shouldn't have run kind of us against the world. And they've gotten their back pocket. This kid Tommy Carr who C.J. Carr's brother grandson of Lloyd Carr. Sounds like he's a pretty competent back up and, you know, the coach was saying, and usually the coach say, my quarterback, my quarterback, he has his back. He said, you know, we'll see Williamson. We'll see, you know what he's kind of on a short leash, which is, I think a telling comment. So what expect a close, low scoring game pointed a premium. And we don't see a lot of 43s in college football, but you know, maybe somebody wins the game 17, 14, 20 to 17.

32:08And I'll plug my nose here and take the six with Michigan. Man, okay. Gonna live through that one. Sorry to step on your Yankees bed, my apologies. You, by the way, you think the Yankees are winning the, the pen and let's start there. You think they're winning the pen. First of all, are they coming back to win the division? Yes, pen and no division division is just starting to run out of games. I know they got Colorado and Tampa's got Atlanta, but you start to get in the point of the season, you know, where if you, when you're down four games, if you don't make up a game, you have, you don't have any room to go backwards. There's just such a thin margin for error. They do play four times. I think two weeks from now, last week of the season, all in Yankee stadium, but if the Yankees don't sweep those four, they don't have the tie breaker. Remember, we don't play game 163 anymore, which is another travesty. I don't think they'll win the division, but man, that lineup, that's healthy. Now he got judged to go with rice and Garcia, junior, you're throwing the Belminger's and Chism and Spencer Jones is giving you some, some juice with that pitching and the rest of the American league. I do think they'll probably get to the world series. I don't think the win it probably somebody comes out of the national game, but I think they're clearly the best team in the American league.

33:10All right, to the national football league, let's start with Wednesday night football tonight. You are on the Seahawks. Yeah, it's a lot of things you guys talked about too. You know, we got the bad number on the mega pod here with the three and a half. So I don't, I don't love that, especially on a key number. But I mean, it was four and a half in February, and that's on a neutral field. And you could say, right, the Seahawks lost a couple guys here there. They're banged up. Patriots may be a little bit better, may's healthier. And maybe that's all true. But four and a half on a neutral Seahawks one, they covered, they dominated. And now we're playing in Seattle, which is a dominant home field. There are really impactful home field. That's about as good a home field as there is in the NFL, especially on Banner night. And the lines down to three. I just feel like Seattle is being slept on, disrespected, whatever word you want to use here. Because the Rams hype, whatever it is, people don't believe in Darnell. But I'll put my money where my mouth is here and say Seattle wins the game by about a touchdown. Or so I just think the last thing on this too, the fundamental problem for New England and February, they couldn't block Seattle. And has that changed here in the off season? Will they be able to block Seattle?

34:11I guess we'll find out. We will find out in due time. And by due time, I mean later today, let's go. Can't wait. All right. One other play in the NFL on Sunday. What do you have? Oh, this will be a fun one. Cleveland plus the eight slash eight and a half. I know Todd got very upset that I tried to get it eight and a half. Not that he ever tries to get an extra half number here. They're half point here and there. There were plenty of eight and a half out there. But besides the point, I like Cleveland two through 53. I sounds like they hit on a couple of these wide receivers. These rookies, Kinseps, you own in Boston, Junkins is a good back. They've always got a pretty good defense. Now he might say this is like, you know, you're going to buy the car and the car is great. And it's a great deal. But there's no steering wheel and you can't drive it. Maybe there's just no quarterback. And this is going to be a terrible bet. It's possible. But with a low total of 40 and a half, I just feel like with that roster, if I get anything out of Watson out of the quarterback position, this could be a close game and, you know, weak ones always a little wonky. What do we really know about these teams? So I'll take the points here with Cleveland should be a lot of fun to, uh, to sweat that one out on Sunday. I agree with the, with the general sentiment about the, the Browns.

35:12If you get anything from quarterback, they shouldn't be terrible. Let's set the bar there. The question is, do I make it one of my five millions plays by my millions lines? Not out to 10 a.m. today, I guess. Yes. That we made that. I couldn't figure out what day it was yesterday. Yeah. If you were looking to make your millions plays, your survivor plays, those become active today. What did we get a tweet for someone that's okay? Okay. And they might have said Wednesday and I just botched it also. And I wanted to make sure if they were out yesterday, we discussed them today. Yeah. So I was in the depths of the rules and everything. Yeah. Jaguars, you agree. What was the team you picked in the Megapod for biggest favorite, most likely to lose outright? There's only three selections. What was your choice, Jags? I picked the Jags, but FES, FES was great. By the way, on the Megapod FES, picked the Lions because Dan Campbell goes forward on fork down the fork down variance. I think there's a lot of truth to that. By the way, a little ANG Civil War FES versus Mike versus right angles for it's on Twitter. I'm not enjoying that. I hope those guys work out. Wow. FES is in a Twitter battle with some of them.

36:14That can't be more with Will on the other side. He's got some NFL season longs next. Every game day, you show up for your team. Now it's your time. Ask your prescriber about we gov some maglatide injection 2.4 milligrams, a G.O.P. one. Call 1 8 3 3 4 we gov or visit we gov.com to view the medication guide and to learn more about we gov. Why wait? CBS Sunday, September 13th, the new season of 60 minutes begins. Okay, let's go. Every second, a story unfolds. This is one of the great mysteries of human nature. Every minute, a new question. We were buying access to the president every week, a deeper understanding. When we take the field, the expectations are to win. It's time. We're preparing to go out on this race for the new season.

37:17It was gunfighting. All the way in all the way out 60 minutes CBS Sunday, September 13th and streaming on Paramount Plus. Numbers game on FESEN. These sports betting network. Sharp plays and full effect, unbatch transparency with the records updated daily AI betting analysis, real time global betting info alerts directly from the pros. This game, the QR code on your screen for more at sharp plays dot com. So a couple of college football notes before we get back to will one. Remember how after the Western Michigan Michigan debacle, I'll call it a debacle. Yeah, that, you know, universally praised was Western Michigan coach Lance Taylor or how he handled the game afterwards. Just classy, just classy and the Mac with their statement, classy, just classy. And I even said at the time, the other day, I was like, maybe they shouldn't have been that classy, right? Yeah, he did. Guess what? They're not staying classy. Mac is, uh, Mac is challenging this now.

38:18They want, they want a whole review. It, it's hard to work in sports media for this log. I'm not kind of rolling your eyes at these things, but you're like, all right, the Mac released a statement. They're unhappy. Yeah. They want Michigan's win overturned after what happened at the end of that ballgame said replay protocol was not followed. And then the other college football story, do you realize the, do you realize the S. C. C. Is headed towards a vote tomorrow? One whether or not to expel LSU from the conference. Sure that will happen. Now, of course, if that were to happen and they're saying, you know, publicly, publicly facing public facing, they're saying, Oh, no, this is serious. In that word to happen, obviously LSU then doesn't have a S a S. C. C. schedule passed to the playoff is compromised. They get about the money, right? They comes with money distribution conference, right? But all of this is because of LSU's flirtation with bringing pro players back this year.

39:22And it should be noted that LSU, they, they filled their final two roster spots with non pro players yesterday. So LSU is now, this vote may happen against LSU just for having the thought of doing it. They didn't actually do it. I don't know if it was going to go any, if that vote was going to go anywhere in the first place, but now that those guys are not even on the roster. No, it's, it was everybody making threats, right? LSU back down. They didn't add those guys. And that just to follow up real quick on the Michigan, Western Michigan thing, the, the NCAA, issuing new guidance to establish a standard timing protocol that ensures consistency in the administration of all college football games. Memo was sent out yesterday to teams quote, the official time for all college football games is the time displayed on the in stadium game clock. Hey, the memo said what I said the other day, that's how the NFL does. Yeah. Yeah, real quick. When a replay review requires time to be restored or otherwise adjusted, the replay officials decision will be based on the embedded game clock contained within the program

40:27feed. If the broadcaster is unable to provide an embedded game clock, the replay official will use the game clock displayed as part of the broadcast feed. It's very simple. We can't have a sport where the clock we're seeing is not the clock you end up using. Yep. Period. Road knows who's going to have a subpar game other than the officials. It has to be the guy who said he sees ghosts turning back into pumpkin seems logical. Could it be a mark, a rip in thing where Sam Darnell just has his one year except for Sam Darnell had a great year with Minnesota. We're so fair. We're so fair. But I think the same thing. I think the super ball. Let's get off his bat. Doesn't matter what he does the rest of the time. Mac, when you and Kelly get a chance, be sure to check out the no big ad with Sydney Swini. Okay. Hmm. Cut. Are you suggesting that there's some big in the in the Sydney Swini ad? You don't know me. Chris Todd. Who do you have in the golf match? I got golf minus the games. Golf minus three against Andrew Ava today. Love the shit. Thank you, Chris Todd. And then Torch D the one to put this ad in your panties. This is apropos of I don't know what he says. Who the hell is Purvis Ellison?

41:30Never nervous Purvis when the NCAA champion with the championship with Louisville over Duke over Johnny Dawkins and Tommy Amaker and Duke. Later to become a Washington bullet. I don't know. John. John one making me even more intrigued now texting in associate producer of this fine show. We can't show it on the network. We'll just say that about Sydney. Oh, okay. All right. That can be for multiple reasons. Will Hill seems like a fan of Sydney Swinis. He joins us once again from the state of Connecticut courtesy of the progress. Of guest line at not the will Hill on Twitter is the host of the should a bit more podcast willy. Have you seen that commercial by any chance? I just happened to have seen it. Yeah, that was a good guess by you. I have seen it and Kelly's right. You can't show it here on a visa. Wow. Wow. No, I'm doing the commercial break. Interesting. I'm not like Sydney Swini crazy like others. I'm sure you will not care to see it at all. Certainly watch the court. It's for sure. Um, okay. We'll take on for the tea. Exactly. Well, what a great sacrifice by kill.

42:31Very welcome. Um, oh, look, Gracie, Gracie is texted me. I wonder what you want. Um, okay. This is, let's do some season laws. Let's do a couple of season longs here. This, this specific, specific one is of interest to me because we were talking about the dolphins yesterday. And I was just sort of talking about how we went through their wide receiver depth chart. It's horrific. And the point I was making was you don't have to believe us, subjectively about their wide receiver room. The point is that they picked up seven players after final cuts. More than 10% of their roster is the discards, the last discards of other teams. So how good can they be? How are you playing the dolphins? There is that fandall under four and a half minus one 60 where you can pretty much buy a game and you know what? It's just all the things you mentioned with the roster. If they get to five wins and you beat me so be it. And you got four against the Patriots and the bills. All the jets, I think similar to the Browns, they're two through 53s, not that bad. And you know, Smith, the last year behind a bad offensive line will play much better behind

43:32a better offensive line this year. And I'm not sure. Maybe you get a split there, but it's just, it's hard to get to five and you know, talking about their roster, listening to you talk about the roster. It reminds me the scene from Major League when they're going over the guys and it's like, who's this guy? This guy here is dead. We'll cross them off. It's just, it's kind of a who's who of like guys you've never heard of. And it is really just a roster that is designed to be picking high in April. So just to be clear, that's an alt season win total under on four and a half because their actual is three and a half, correct? Yeah, you can go to these books and pretty much pick your juice, pick your number minus one, sixty, a fandall four and a half. You know what? For the extra for the extra juice, I'm okay. Where you know what? You get to five and beat me. You beat me. But I three and a half just feels like, man, any of these teams can walk their way. Yeah. It wins four to five seems like a much bigger jump when it's just hard to luck your weighing to five wins when you're this bad. I love that. I mean, how often do we talk? We talk all wind totals all the time. Usually it's the other way looking for those plus prices, right?

44:32But I think that's one with a wind total that low. Give yourself another game because like we'll set anything can happen. We see that all the time. I like that. Okay. This next one. I love this because we should really have a dedicated segment before any season, but really before the NFL season of bets that have been sitting out there for the entire summer. I've got three of them written down. I haven't made. Yes. Not just you haven't made that appear to be so obvious in terms of their pricing. Like I'm lowly, good example. And this didn't come. They appear to be obvious is the key phrase. Because last you remember the chiefs were like minus one 10 to win the division before the season started. We are all like, oh my god, the chiefs are minus one 10 to the vision. Are we really not betting this? Turns out it didn't win anyway. Yeah. Okay. Will has one for us. Please. Yeah. And similar to what you're saying, it's just under the category of I will hate myself if I don't bet it and it wins. Patrick Mahomes at Fando was 17 to one who win the MVP.

45:32I mean, I don't feel like I need to give a handicap. It's Patrick Mahomes at 17 to one. It's 10 to one at Trap Kings. It's still Mahomes. And I actually think the fact that he's coming off an injury, the narrative will probably help him. He hasn't won this since 2022. So there will be a little bit. It's not like there's voter fatigue with him. I think, you know, some of these years, like when they were 15 and one eventually 15 and two, he didn't even sniff the award. You just get a little bit bored. I mean, you can give it to him every year, that kind of thing. I don't think that's there with him anymore, having not won it in a few years. I think that's 17 to one just from a price point. And maybe you know what? Maybe he's recovering from the injury and he's not the same. And you know what? You lose a 17 to one. So be it. I just, I'm surprised that numbers as high as it is. We know it's a quarterback award. We know the handful guys that'll be in the mix. He's healthy. He'll certainly be one of them. Let's let's workshop this. So let's say Patrick Mahomes has a great season. The Chiefs win the division. We won't even give him the number once he let's say they're the number two seat, just just to make it a little more murky. Is he more, let's say he has MVP competition?

46:34Are they are voters more likely to default to him as the MVP juxtaposed against him as the comeback player of the year award? Is that enter your thinking at all that? Oh, maybe given other competition. He'll go to the other one. It's still my home. He's still the star of the league. They would give if he's worthy of the MVP, they're not going to stiff him on the MVP and he's like, well, you know, we're not going to give you MVP, buddy, but here's your comeback player of the year. He if he's warranted to be in the mix, I think we'll have a shot to win again. It's just the price at the 10 to 1 at draft kings. You know what? I'm kind of a different, but at 17 to 1, I just feel obligated to pull the trigger. Yeah. I love the question. You know, I'm I'm captain, come back player of the year. This is where come back player of the year gets insulting. If anybody starts thinking about it that way, no, it's disrespectful to the MVP in the rare error that we hold that award in, right? So yeah, I like if he's in the mix, yeah, I think what'd you say chiefs one seed? No, I said two seed just to make it.

47:35Okay, two seed. They win the division. I guess it matter. Yeah, it matters. Who's that one seed? Yeah, I agree with you though. I think almost giving Patrick Mahomes come back player of the year as a consolation price to MVP is almost more insulting to him and to everybody else, right? Yeah. Well, always a pleasure. Who's on the way to should a bit more? Jeff Parles, Jensen Lewis, and you guys were talking about a super bowl matchups. He didn't think the prices were good. I'll leave you with this. Chiefs Cowboys, one 15 to one at draftings. I like that one. Oh, you know, that's a price. Chiefs Cowboys, one 15 to one. Where's the price? The Lumbopet. Leave in the door there. Leave it. Thank you, Will. Every game day you show up for your team. Now it's your time. Ask your prescriber about Wigovie, some Maglatide injection 2.4 milligrams, a GLP 1. Call 1-8334 Wigovie or visit Wigovie.com to view the medication guide and to learn more

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