A Second Chance (Bachelor Mansion Takeover S1 E5)

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It's almost from his podcast, it's another recap, but the bachelor mansion takeover.

This time, three contestants, who were previously eliminated, get to compete for a chance

at redemption in a spot in the finale.

Now, Ashley's not with us today.

I'm going to break this down with our producer Heather.

Ashley is not with us because, well, she has a big week of the Real Housewives of

Rhode Island press and interviews and media, and as a result, we are blessed and honored

to have Heather with us today, breaking down this episode.

Heather, what did you think?

This didn't feel worthy of an episode to me.

This felt like it could have been condensed down to a challenge and that's kind of how

I feel.

What do you think of this episode?

It's confusing because obviously the guy, Sam Dean and Noah, get the week off and they

bring in three people for redemption.

I do like that idea, especially with Chris.

Yeah.

I think Chris was, and they said it throughout the episode, I think Chris was arguably the

most talented person there who never really got a fair shot at the competition because

he was eliminated based on, I think, just the fact that he was like one of the goldens

and these guys are all friends and he kind of, he just never had his go at it.

So I do like that.

I think it was a good twist and it's a fun twist and it's a fair twist.

I'm with you though.

This episode dragged in a lot of ways because there just wasn't a lot happening.

And again, my critique of this whole season is that we don't necessarily get the highlight.

We don't see a lot of the build out and the grit and the mistakes that part is taken

out.

So the renovation part of this is really not shown if you, I think, watch the episodes

as much as the final product and there's so much time spent on the judging of this.

There is.

I agree.

It's like, we see the judges go and critique it and then they go back and they tell the contestants

the critique all over again.

It's like, it's so, it's too much.

It's too much of the same, same towards the end of every episode.

It feels that way to me.

Maybe other viewers would disagree, but it feels like it's a lot of repetitive language

and a lot of, I mean, it was very obvious this episode how it was going to end up.

The critique still seemed very much like a personal opinion, more than, you know, craftsmanship

or there's like a lot more stylistic critique, which is fine.

Did you think that Chris was the only one who got pointed out for his functionality of

his bar?

I felt like everybody should have had that note if it worked or not.

Right?

I mean, that's, that seems like an important element when it comes to a bar is the functionality.

So what makes, I guess I wanted a clear picture of what actually makes the bar win more

than just personal opinion, because you can put a new paint color on very easily.

You can build a roof over the top of one of these very easily.

I think I wanted a clearer understanding as a viewer of, okay, here's who's going to

win based on how they accomplish the goal set out for them at the beginning of, I'll use

your language, this challenge.

But here's how the episode set up.

Jesse doesn't enter the room until the three contestants, Sam Noah and Dean, that they

do have the week off, that they're going to bring in three people who have been eliminated

from the show in the past to have a redemption opportunity.

If they win this specific challenge during this episode, one of them will be able to move

on to the finale, which will happen next week.

The three people invited back, Courtney, Tammy and Chris.

They are brought back based on the judges, Tasha and Tyler's opinions on who maybe needed

a second shot, who maybe got the wrong to the deal or who was showing progress and promise

and needed that second shot at redemption.

So the guys that are currently still on the show have a week off, the three of them start

the challenges.

This, Heather, the challenge is to build a bar for the outside area.

Now this bar during my time on the show was very, very sporadically used.

I hardly remember having a bar there.

I think part of that is because when you're the bachelor or the lead, somebody's bringing

you drinks and you're not necessarily going to buy to the bar to order drinks, but during

Caitlyn's season, I don't remember a lot of moments at this bar.

It does feel to me like there needs to be a bar out there.

It's a big element of the show.

Do you remember your bar being so easily mobile as these ones were that they popped up?

I mean, this was just some two by fours with some tiles put on them essentially at the

end of the day.

I actually think, and I could be totally wrong here, but if I'm pulling back memories

from my memory bank, I remember the bar being a catering service.

So it was one that could make sense.

Yeah.

Wheel in and wheel out.

I mean, the bar that I remember actually being built or that was permanent, but it's

always great to have a pool bar.

I think that, I mean, this house is set up for that.

And so this outdoor area is now complete with the pool bar.

But is this the pool or is this the terrace out in the front yard like near?

Where is this terrace, I guess, is this located near the fountain in the front yard?

No.

It's backed by the pool.

So on the pool, there's a terrace off the side of a bedroom that we never saw during

the show.

Okay.

And it's a really beautiful area of the property, actually.

It's a pretty wide open area.

You come out those sliders that you see so many people walking out during the show right

off of that like living room, and it would be right to the right of that would be where

this bar looks like it's going to sit.

That would be my assumption.

I think it'd be weird to have a bar in the front yard, right?

I guess I was trying to get my bearings on this mansion.

I didn't realize that pool area was so vast.

It's a huge pool area.

The property itself is massive.

I mean, it has a house, like there's like a guest house across the driveway from the

main house.

This is a big piece of property in a beautiful way.

It should have made over the guest house.

Like, I've never seen inside of it.

In fact, I think a little tidbit, I think Chris Souls actually lived in that house while

he was the bachelor.

That would actually be very interesting if the bachelor or the bachelor lived on the

property.

We would get a lot of those knock on the door moments, I think, late at night with contestants

that we've seen happen more so on the travel episodes.

Yeah, you're right.

I mean, so big piece of property, big pool area, they're going to elevate this pool area.

The challenge is to build a bar to make it functional for this pool area.

We'll start with Chris's bar.

Don't forget they also have to make a signature cocktail, which then they never get judged

on.

Okay.

Yeah, that's true.

It all has to match the vibe of the bar that they build.

And Chris, I do think when it comes to putting together his bar, his craftsmanship was

shown.

He is working on it.

He is focused.

And he is making it a beach theme.

Now, one element, I might have missed this, that would have been very helpful because

I love the idea of your pool area feeling like you're on a beach.

It feels like you're on vacation.

It's separate from the design of the house.

You sit at this bar and you feel like you've escaped even if it's 100 yards or 10 foot

from the house that you're living in.

You feel like you've escaped to a different place.

So when Chris says, hey, I'm going to make this a Caribbean style bar.

I personally am like, yes, that's what I would want.

It might not fit the aesthetic of the house, but personally, I like the idea.

I agree with you.

What is this challenge?

Is this challenge to be innovative or is this challenge to make a bar that fits into

the theme of the house because they didn't say either way, but in the past, they've been

telling these people to make bold design choices to do something that represents them.

It seems like really what they wanted was just a bar that kind of fit the theme of the house,

which was not conveyed to any of the contestants because I'm with you.

I would like something that is bold and stands out.

That can get weathered and as it weathered, it actually is even cooler and it shows the age

and the grip behind it.

I also think the comments that mostly focused on night one or the cocktail

parties of the bachelor, for me, seem like a secondary thought.

This is still a functioning house where people are living in it.

This is not a house built for the show.

Even though this is the bachelor mansion takeover, this is still a house that people live in

and breathe in and move in.

Oh, you mean just in the season or outside of the season?

Outside of the season.

I don't think people live there anymore.

I think it's Airbnb then and at some point, it probably will become somebody's house,

right, the bachelor won't take over this space forever.

True.

So for building this for people at the pool and cocktail dresses, that feels like a miss to me.

How often is this house actually having people in suits and cocktail dresses by the pool?

I agree. That's a good point.

So Chris's bar is built with the Caribbean theme.

He gets a lot of critique for his sign that really wasn't even built by him.

They showed up the next morning and the sign was already built and they had to glue it together

and paint it, but for the most part, the way the letters were cut out, I'm sure they had a say

in that, but the sign itself, if it was on driftwood or if it was on a piece of plywood,

we didn't see that that was a decision they got to make.

Take that for what it is, but he does get a lot of critique on something that he actually did

not have a hand in putting together other than the gluing and the painting of the sign.

Also something out of all the bars, out of all the elements of a bar, the sign was definitely

the easiest part. It probably took that dude an hour to put all three to cut out all three.

So, but that's what Chris gets a lot of critique. His functionality is high, they said.

It's the most functional space of any of the bars from what we understand.

It also has a lot of good shade. So, when you're sitting in the hills of LA

and the sun is baking down on you and it's hot and it's dry, this bar did give the most

coverage for shade. So, it was the most enjoyable for when I was hearing to sit at.

And then we have Courtney's bar. Courtney's bar is called liquid courage. Her bar is beautiful.

I do think with Courtney, the big miss was I don't know how you have an outdoor bar without

a backing to your shelving. There's wind. There's weather again. And every time the wind and weather

picks up, I don't know if you want to be running out there to throw all of your drinks and cups and

glasses underneath the bar or inside. So, you do need some protection. And I was with Sean.

I think Sean was the one that gave the critique that the back shelving made. He couldn't understand

it. And it made me nervous watching it. Thinking how many times somebody would be having a good time,

put a bottle up there and it falls off and the glass breaks in a pool area where people are barefoot.

That was a miss. But the overall look of her bar was what they called sexy. And I do agree. It was

sexy. It looked like if you could sit it in the basement of a home, put it up against a wall.

It would really elevate the space. Yeah. I would say with Courtney's out of the three.

hers, I think, was the most scaled back in terms of design. I felt like the others went a little

bit more detailed, whether it was lighting, whether it was extra things that they had on the bar.

And hers was really paired back. She did say she was going for a simplistic look because that's

what she got complemented on in the last challenge, which she ended up getting sent home for.

But I think yeah, for this element of a bar, it was missing just it needed a little bit more

to feel complete for sure. Yeah, it looked for an outdoor bar. It just looked a little bit incomplete,

but it also was beautiful. Yes. The simplicity of it did stand out. And I do think overall,

it looked more like an inside basement bar to me. In fact, Chris is the only one that looked like a

pool bar to me. I agree. Yeah. I agree with both of those statements.

If I was a judge on this show, I think one of my biggest concerns when it comes to an outdoor bar

is how is it going to weather? What is going to weather about it? It's going to sit outside. This

thing's not moving around often, if at all. And so is it going to be able to hold up to the

conditions and the elements that exist outside? That's a huge part of functionality to me. And

a really a part, if you're a judge on the show that we should have been talking about is,

does this look like a bar that can exist, you know, for more than 12 months outside?

Final bar was Tammy's bar. Tammy's bar is definitely the most complete. And it is, it takes the

elements of Courtney's bar. And I think elevates it to a level that is beautiful. It's a gorgeous

bar. It is wonderful. And I'm going to sound like a broken record. But how is it going to stand

up to the test of time with the elements outside? Also, it just felt like another extension of

the rose room or the mixer like, it didn't feel like a big swing in terms of design. It had

arches again. It had the same colors we've been seeing. It just felt like, and I know the judges

came at her and were like, where are you in this, in this like design? But it's like Chris is all

over his design and he didn't end up going with that one. So I didn't really understand this

challenge and what the judges were looking for. But I did, I do agree. I liked in her arch that she

put spotlights. Like those kinds of details I thought were really nice. I mean, it was a beautiful

bar. In fact, all three of these are wonderful. I think I at the end of the episode was a little

confused on, are we picking the most beautiful bar? Like, is that the challenge here? Like the one

that like is aesthetically pleasing and that makes it look like you're sitting in a hotel lobby,

you know, having a drink? Or are we picking an outside pool bar? That's where I'm getting confused.

Yeah, I think they chose the one that most looks like the house. That's what I think they did.

And maybe in my ideal world, I wish that would have been said at the beginning.

Like I take swings, right? For your design. But also here is the lane that we're judging upon.

Is this the aesthetic of the house? Does it fit with the overall themes that we've been going

with the whole time? Or does it not? Because if not, if that was the judgment and that's what they're

judging on, I don't think Chris goes with a Caribbean theme. I think he was thinking, hey, this is

who I am. This is what I think of when I think of pool bar. Let me do a pool bar in the way that I

envision it and see it and do it to the best of my abilities. But there wasn't a clear guideline

here. The what the actual judging was going to be about. And I think that's maybe a theme

throughout this whole season is that there's too many points where I'm like, that's amazing and great.

And they choose the thing that feels safe or whatever the judge has kind of come to a consensus

on what they were looking for. I wish there was more guidelines on the design. Yeah, I agree.

That would have been helpful. During this whole experience, Sam, Noah and Dean again have the

week off. They decide to work out because they have all the free time in the world. And they're

a little bit angry. And it's funny. I wonder fans will pick up on this. I was watching Dean,

you know, act like he was so mad that there was a, there's contestants coming back in and he

trust me. Dean was not mad. He was joking. Very much joking. But they tried to, I think the show

actually tried to make it look like he was actually upset. I think the show was really trying to make

them look all upset. They kept asking them and kept having them sit down, interview being like,

oh, I'm really upset about this. It's like, these guys don't care. They don't hurt all. They're

having a good time. It's like, even they made Sam be like, oh, it's hard to like enjoy my first

victory of this whole season when these people are coming back. It's like, he doesn't care, guys.

No, he's, he's getting the sound bite that you need and Dean's is hilarious because if you watch

it and you know Dean, you know his sense of humor and you know he's like just saying it to say it

and singing the most ridiculous way. I'm so angry. Yeah. And he's not. But I do think viewers

will watch it and be like, oh, Dean was really mad. I feel like Dean was like smiling and laughing.

He was. It was like almost like scary because if he was actually mad and that's how he communicates

anger and he smiles through it, you're like, that's feels really off. But no, he's fine. He's doing

what he does. These guys are hanging out for the week or for the day, two days. I think that

they're jazzed on that that they don't have to pick up a hammer. They are doing cannonballs in

the pool. And then they like to come over and they're like, oh, look at this bar. They're like,

looking at the bars being built, but they don't care. No, they're having a blast at this point

in the season. All three of them are just hanging out together. They're happy to be there and

they're glad to have a few days of downtime. Exactly. But that's what these guys choose to do. And they

know that one of these contestants who win will be joining them in the final four in the finale

that is next week. So the judges come out and judge each of these bars. We bring in bachelor

nation favorite, bachelor favorite, Sean Lowe to the house who does have a huge background in design

and furniture. I didn't know that. Is that like a known thing that Sean makes furniture? I didn't know

that. I don't think he makes furniture or designed furniture. Yeah. He is a partnership with a company.

In fact, the basement in my house right now is a Sean Lowe and Catherine Lowe sofa that we've had

since it was their wedding gift to us, which is very kind. Wow. Years ago. And it's a wonderful

piece of furniture. But yeah, I think pretty much after the show, he got this deal. And it's must

have worked out for both parties because it's been a long deal. And Sean does a lot of VC investment.

I think he does probably have some rental homes. I know he also has invested in some fast

food restaurants and probably helped the design of those. It makes sense on, you know, why he's

there and kind of his eye for things. So he does show up to join Jesse Tasha and Tyler this week.

They go to each bar. We've talked about a lot of the feedback already, Heather, on each bar.

But was there any feedback I think that you strongly agreed with or disagreed with?

I think just going back to the functionality of Chris's bar that that all made sense once Tyler

kind of pointed out the things that decisions he'd made in terms of the layout. And I think when

you pointed out the fact that Courtney's bar didn't have a backing and how problematic that could

be, I think that that's, I agree in that feedback as well. I guess my big question mark is

on Tammy's and what they loved about it when they said, basically, that they didn't see her in

the design was a little surprising that that's the one that they ultimately went with.

I agree with you. I mean, I'm not taking anything away from Tammy and her bar and her design or

coaching and her bar and her design and Chris and his design. They were all great. I just don't

know what they're judging upon because this is what we're told they're judging upon. Design,

don't know what that means. Design for an outdoor bar or design to match the house.

I think it means design in terms of they don't want something sloppy. You don't want something

that's crooked or exposed. That's what I think when I hear being judged on design. The perfection

of the actual, whatever the design may be. All three of them accomplished that goal. The design of

all three of them was well done for the design they're wanting. I do think the only one that we

could probably dock for design was Courtney just because of the functionality and it wasn't sloppy.

I don't want to put that word behind it, but I do think it was not thought through of how this

bar could actually function in the outdoors. The next was execution. I don't know what that means.

Execution, I would think goes into the functionality element of how it's laid out.

All three of them in a way made that happen because we only heard them comment though on Chris'

functionality and saying how well done that was. Maybe we give him a heads up there and say,

hey, you're at this point in the lead. Creativity. I feel like that's so broad. Everybody has to

create something out of nothing in this challenge. And creativity and me in a lot of ways

thinks going outside of the norm, going outside of the box, thinking of something that is not

maybe expected or something different. I do think Courtney's and Tammy's bars most aligned in

terms of aesthetic and style and thought Chris's bar did stand out because it was so different

than theirs. And the final judgment was concept. What is the concept here? And I think all of them

had some very creative ways to do the concept. Chris is called dark and stormy. So he makes a dark

and stormy drink. Courtney's bar is highlighted by a drink that's a spicy jalapeno rosé drink.

And the name of her bar is remind me here. Liquid courage. Liquid courage. Again,

high marks on both of those things. And Tammy's bar is a little more sophisticated.

The name of her drink is the killer kiss. It's a mezcal drink that she shares with the judges

and Jesse. It looked fancy when she revealed the drink. It was like, whoa, she was in there,

mixing it up like a real bartender. And I was all smoky. I was like, okay, props on that.

But then they weren't judged on the drink. So I was like, there's a lot of help for nothing.

Yes.

Tammy does win this competition, Heather. And I'm not going to say she didn't deserve it. I think

she did deserve it. 100%. That's not the point here. I just don't know necessarily how she won.

That's what I wanted. I wanted to watch it at dirt. What I love in a renovation show, HUTV is a

go-to for me. What I love in a renovation show is watching the process unfold and being able to be

like, okay, that's a hit. That's a miss. That's a hit. That's a miss based on what I know from the show

going into it. Or when they put a design idea into motion and it flops midway through and they

have to pivot and how they make that pivot. That's always really interesting to watch as well.

You're right. This didn't have that. We just kind of have the bars being built.

The judges and then the final say, which is Tammy wins, which means Tammy goes on to the finale.

I do think she's a force to be reckoned with during the finale.

I could see any of these people in the finale. I think that's what is like difficult about this

is like they could all be in there and I would be like, that's a great contender to be in the finale.

I'm very curious watching the preview for the finale. We were told that they're going to

renovate the kitchen, which is cool and needed. The kitchen has a really cool look to it right now

where when it was built, they brought in some, it looks like really old, refurbished, like almost

driftwood that they've stained and painted and made in the cabinets. It is a cool look. It could

use maybe like a redo just based on time and year spent of those cabinets being slammed.

I'm very curious though how they're going to judge the finale if they're all working within one

space. Oh, I think it's going to be like somebody's in charge of the island. Somebody's in charge of

like this set of cabinets, somebody's in charge, like the backsplash and the appliances.

Somebody's going to be in charge of probably the stove area and like that section.

Yeah. But I agree with you. It's going to be a hard room to divide up for four people.

But I do like that we're finally seeing stuff smashed. I haven't seen that this whole season.

And we're seeing them smashing countertops and smashing through the cabinets. And so I'm excited

to see some stuff actually get broken in this house. Yeah. My only question to you, Heather, is

I mean, I've redone our kitchen's countertops, replace them.

Smashing was not necessary. Like it wasn't the way that you remove a nice piece of granite.

Yeah. And those countertops were really nice pieces of granite. They can be reused. They can

be cut down. They can be refurbished. That is true. You don't have to smash the countertops. You

just kind of like remove them. Why are they? What are they smashing then? They're smashing.

They are smashing the countertops. And it's like, wait, for a renovation show you, yes,

you want the drama of it. But you also want to do things in the way that you would do them in

your real life. I'm confused on why they're smashing the countertops quite honestly because that is

one of the most the least efficient ways because the glue still sticks. And now it's a lot of

pieces you have to pick up and dust. You have to pick up. Yeah. It doesn't necessarily fit

when it comes to demo. Demos in a lot of ways is surgical. It's fun to see people take a

sledgehammer to things. That's not the way demo works most of the time. So I'm watching this

something. This is unrealistic, which here I watch HTTV because I want the realistic picture,

the best they can for TV of one of renovation looks like and how they do it. And I like to learn

from watching it to say, okay, there's a technique I can now use and utilize when I maybe want to

do something like this. Anyways, just my thought, it's like, it's probably a little bit too detailed,

but that's me watching it and saying, hey, that feels very aggressive and unnecessary.

And whoever owns this house now might love the opportunity to sell like a $5,000

piece of granite to a manufacturer to cut down and reuse. That, I mean, for me, I think, and I'm like,

that's a bargain. That's where I can get my money back.

Who do you think is going to win this season? It's really all how this kitchen is set up.

You asked me that question. I think it's all how the, if it is just like building things,

I do think Dean and Sam have the advantage. If it is design focused, I think Tammy has the advantage.

If it is kind of like a utility knife, a universal like, hey, how is this whole thing

going to go and how are you navigating the process? I think Noah has the advantage.

So I don't know, again, and that's part of the frustration, I think, is I don't know who the best

player is because I don't know what they're being judged upon yet. Yeah, this is true.

It's not been a linear kind of competition for anyone and having them be paired up versus

only doing individual challenges towards the end has also like been tricky to kind of follow

and navigate of who skills are where. I will say, I really do love that. Dean is the only one so far

who has built his own things that we've seen, whether it's custom R or custom furniture.

So I'm excited to see what kind of custom thing he brings to this kitchen challenge,

because I think he's going to do that again. Yeah, and he should. He's incredible at it. Yeah.

So I don't know who's going to win. I would want, I mean, obviously, I love Dean.

I'd love to see him walk away with a 250k 100k 100k

but I don't know. It's all up in the air on what this whole finale will look like. It is the finale

next week of the bachelor mansion renovation show, the bachelor mansion takeover, Tammy Noah,

Sam and Dean are left standing and the previews were told that they're going to redo the kitchen.

Overall, Heather, I mean, we're wrapping up this season. And as the world knows,

we thought we're going to have other seasons to be breaking down during this time.

This has been a, I would say I know, I've been critical today. It's been a good spin-off of the show.

Like, I've enjoyed seeing these characters come to life in a way that's outside of dating,

and seeing who they are as people and seeing them a little more relaxed because it's not so stressful

and there's not so much emotion that there has been. Obviously, but I've enjoyed the idea of

this spin-off. I think it could have been executed in a way that's a little bit better.

Mostly for me, I want clarity and I want some of the low like awkward moments when it comes to

the judges to be cut down. There's so much repetitive feedback and so much repetitive language

that it gets a little bit drawn out. But for the most part, I've enjoyed this spin-off and I do

think it is replicable in the future. And I would watch it gladly if maybe my own personal,

again, my own personal biases could be solved when it comes to clarity and walling in language.

Yeah, I think overall this show had a really great concept to it. I feel like the end goal should

have been less about this upcoming season of the Bachelor at it. And I think people would have

been more invested if the goal was to make this property, yes, beautiful, but also you, the viewer,

now get a chance to stay at the Bachelor Mansion. And what room are you going to stay in? And like,

if they had done that and we know that HGTV has done like dream home renovation, I can't remember

the exact name, but the whole point was that you as a viewer could win a stay or win a chance

to like live in the house for like a year or something. Don't quote me, but I know HGTV has done

contests and things like that in the past. So I think that would have been more fun. And I just

wish that the drama was less manufactured feeling. And I wish we would have been able to see

more people from Bachelor Nation come in and pop in, whether it's, oh, you're doing a bar thing.

I'm going to have Wells Adams pop in and actually mix up the drinks and serve them and hang out.

And Wells is going to judge you on your drink competition. That would have a great idea.

Or, you know, I'm going to have some other people from Bachelor Nation come and mingle at each one

of these bars and try the drinks. I don't know. I just feel like as much as we're seeing some of

our favorites from past seasons, there's so many more people that could have been incorporated into

this show. That's all. If only there's a way, if only there was a way to bring back people from

Bachelor Nation that we've learned to love and follow and grow up with on a show that fits where

they're at in life and fits who they are in life. And that brings out their biggest and best

personalities. If the only there was a way, Heather, it's only if only that show existed. I'd watch

that show. I would watch that show too. Hey, we aren't breaking down the Bachelor, obviously, but we

are beginning to break down the real housewives of Rhode Island. And I am very excited to announce

a very special co-host during this breakdown. One, that will be really fun for everybody listening,

be really fun for me. Somebody that is talented and skilled, somebody who is close enough to the

situation to be able to speak about it in a way that nobody else can. But you're going to have to

listen to the first episode of the Real Housewives of Rhode Island breakdown to find out who that

person is. She's been chosen. I will say it's a she. She's been chosen. She's been waiting.

She's prepped and ready to go. And so am I to start breaking down our beloved Ashley I

and her debut on the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. It's kind of weird to think Ashley I

is a real housewife. I can't wait for you and your special co-host, who's not me,

to break this down because this is going to be your first experience watching Housewives,

right Ben? This is like you being introduced to the world, which I think is so fun as somebody

who's obsessed with Housewives. It is insane to see Ashley in this new environment, this new world.

I will say I've already seen the first episode and I love it. I am super excited to watch this

season and watch. You get to see it. I'm excited for fans to get to see. I'm a new element. It's all

going to be I think really interesting to play out. So yes, that will be coming later this week.

It's crazy. It's like we've been talking about this forever. And now it's my year. Yeah, we

hit it for so long, right? Ashley was away and not always on the show. And then it was announced.

And then there was like all this wall and kind of limbo stage. And now it's launching.

I will say I I am personally very excited. And I love the preview of them doing the like

have you ever or whatever game that's called what you hold up to five fingers and you never have

I ever never have ever. And they're like had a threesome and Ashley's like all five fingers. I

you know, that's part of my storyline. I can't not wait to see her navigate this to see the

personalities come out to watch the drama unfold. It's going to be great. So tune in here to the

almost famous podcast. It's going to be right here where we begin to break down the real housewives

of Rhode Island. I'm ready for it. Yes, we're missing a bachelor at season or a bachelor season

whatever was supposed to be filming during this time. That's a bummer. But it doesn't mean we take a

break. And it doesn't mean we still don't bring you great content. The real housewives is a

huge franchise. And you're going to have the most exclusive most detailed and most excited breakdowns

right here on the almost famous podcast. So until next time, I've been Ben. I've been Heather. Bye. See y'all.

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