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Well, hello, hello, this is Dr. Angie Ferrella and I am here with America out loud dot news looking for healing radio.

It is Monday. Happy Monday to you. And I think you're all are going to really enjoy my guest today. My desk. My guest today actually is a regenerative farmer by the name of Drew Blombs from and Drew does a specialty of basically a lot of raw milk. And so we're going to talk about the benefits of raw milk today and answer a whole lot of questions. I think a lot of people ask, you know, not only about safety and how you collect it and all that other fun stuff.

But, you know, why is it so much so much more chock full of things that you need versus something that's pasteurized and what does pasteurize even mean when it comes to milk. So we are he actually he knows family run synergist farms here locally in Texas. And this is a regenerative farm. It's an amazing farm. And what I can tell you is that this family is really in it to win it.

When it comes to taking care of their animals and taking care of bringing the best resources to their customers. They have a core value system that they live by and they have six core values. And their first one is connection. And they want to make relationships.

To see the cities around them experience health and wholeness emotionally as well as physically and I'm sure as well as like, you know, socially, they also feel trust is very important. And it's the basis of every healthy relationship that they transpire in.

Certainly they want to educate and they feel that behind every good life transformation is launched by conviction through education. So this is a huge thing that we're going to get into today too because again, I want you to know what you can do to make your life better to make your family healthier and all those other great things all mixed in.

The other core value they have is inspiration because they want to inspire the next generation of local farmers and that will eventually hopefully revert back to small farming that will feed the cities and feed individuals as well.

They are very transparent. That's another fifth their fifth core value is transparency. And they want they won't and welcome people to come and look at their farm at any time as long as they are there.

The sixth one is hard work. Well, I mean, needless to say, it's a farm. So a farm requires a lot of work. It doesn't matter how big or how small it's a lot of work. And so what they offer is is not something separate from hard work.

But it makes that a necessity to be and utilize what God gave us and to kind of push forward what God is already doing. And I think this is just phenomenal.

Their core values are phenomenal. I met Drew at a farmer's market. Everyone that listens to my show knows that I'm kind of the neurotic farm market lady.

Drew, welcome to the show. I'm so glad that you're with us today.

Yeah, super honored to join you. Thanks for having me.

Oh, absolutely. So Drew, what made you go into the raw milk farming business?

Oh, well, actually, we started getting raw milk from our from a local farm near us called healthy way dairy.

Because when we first had our we went out our first child, she was experiencing a lot of eczema after about four months of life.

And as she got older, we continued to see that grow and that issue become a really big problem.

And we're sitting at the breakfast table one day and me and my wife had probably gotten somewhere between $55, $6,500 and, you know, natural paths and all these different types of doctors.

And no one could solve the issue of my daughter's eczema and have a lot of respect for doctors and physicians and all that kind of stuff, but no one could give us an answer.

So I said, hey, I'm tired of paying people money that aren't helping.

And I believe God created us to be her parents and stew her her life well.

And if that's a case, then I believe that is health wellness as a whole.

And so let's stop handing the baton to someone else. Let's figure this out ourselves.

And I trust my wife immensely and vice versa.

And so we partnered up and one of the first things we started doing, we actually went vegan for a little bit, which I will tell you, that was the worst idea we've ever had.

And then shortly after that, we jumped into drinking raw milk.

And so when we were homesteading and doing eggs and all the things, the moment we got to a little bit more acreage, that was the first thing we jumped into, which was having our own dairy cow, so that we could harvest raw milk from that dairy cow on a daily basis to feed our family and families around us who were pursuing the same thing.

There's just something about when you are bringing together the family on a farm and being in, you know, nature, and then going beyond that, you know, where you know where everything came from, you know how it's raised, you know how it's harvested.

And that is, that's a huge thing nowadays. I think a lot of Americans are really moving more and more towards organic farming or organic farmers to get their produce to get their meat to get their milk eggs, all of that right because they don't trust what's going into the store shelves at your local supermarket.

So, you know, I think there's just a whole new vision of people saying, you know, been doing it this long for so long and I have all these ailments, maybe if I change just one thing, maybe some of these ailments will get better.

I mean, that's kind of what you saw with your daughter, correct?

Yep, we just took one step at a time and we removed one type of food in the next and then, yeah, I think the biggest thing that we've learned through this whole process is that if you stop eating the stuff that's processed, you just eat whole good raw food, you're most and highly likely to stay healthy and to heal your body.

Absolutely, I think that's a, that's a huge thing and I know you have made some really great partnerships you show up at local markets to sell your goods and I know that, you know, your mission statement is that our farm exists to help people experience health and wholeness through organically grown food and relationships and you mentioned relationships over and over again.

So can you just go in a little bit about why, you know, why is that so important to you in particular about these relationships that you are trying to garnish?

Oh, that's a really good question.

So relationship is really important to us and our family because you can't make it super far in anything without relationship and many people say that money makes the world go round.

I couldn't disagree more. I genuinely believe that relationship makes the world go round.

I think there's a facade that shows that money makes the world go round but relationships truly do.

And we see that in that very first beginning relationship between a child and parent when they're born to when they leave the house to, you know, when grandparents are where grandparents get to enter in and there's even more relationship and joy grows, trust goes, all of that does because of relationship.

And one of the biggest things that comes from relationships is trust. Yes, you can have bad relationships where trust is not existent, but ultimately we're trying to help people find health and wholeness in their life in general.

And the biggest way we really work on doing that is through food, being able to trust where your food comes from, who's growing your food and even the community around growing your food.

So one of the things that we really try to do is we can't do everything. So we build relationships with people that do what we're do what we would love to do or what we have done vegetables being one of them.

They would love to do, but we just don't have the bandwidth to do that right now in the season of life.

And so we build relationships with people that we trust that we've seen their operation. We've, you know, been on the soil that they do things on and it's all that kind of stuff.

And we partner with them and we say, hey, if you hold to these values of, you know, no till I'm speaking towards the gardening and vegetable aspect of things, but like no till and no pesticides, herbicides, no chemical fertilizers.

And we will even supply you with fertilizer because we have plenty of it coming out of our chicken breeder and, and some of our pens that we have to hold up during caving season.

And I'll supply you with all that.

If you will hold tightly to these, we will take your, we will take the vegetables that you grow and we will take them to market as our farm.

And you, you are now an extension of center gas farms. And these are people that want to farm for a living or farm full time, but they just can't.

And so we love getting to build a relationship with them and help them see the ability to be profitable and to make it move forward, have that relationship and the transparency that goes along with that.

And so a huge, huge, huge part of people trusting that their food is coming from center gas farms or coming from farmers that are partners with us is, is absolutely a massive thing.

And so if we have somebody come to the farmers market and, you know, I, instead of, this is a, this may seem small, but when people walk up to our booth, we are very intentional.

Instead of saying, what can I get for you? We say, how can we serve you? And we intentionally say, how can we serve you? Because we genuinely want to serve those people, whoever they are.

And then we will most of the time also ask how that person is doing because we care. It's not a, you know, how you know, I'm good. Yeah, that's great. I'm glad you're good.

But genuinely want to know how that person is doing because that will help me as a farmer or rancher who's selling direct to that consumer to help them make a well-rounded decision if they don't know what to shop for, which I would say is about 60 to 70% of our clientele people that are interested, uneducated or slightly educated and inspired, but not really sure who they can trust and what they want to get.

So that in large scale is really important or why relationships are really important. And ultimately, that core value comes into play from us because relationship is big in our home and relationship is big in our faith and in our life because ultimately, the best relationship that I have is with Christ.

And that feeds my relationship with my wife and my kids and my, you know, the relationship to my business and the race, which is our farm and then to the people that purchase from our business and so on and so on.

And so we are living out of that relationship towards others and that that's why relationships are so important because, yeah, that's the, those are the bridges and the pathways that we want to operate on.

Not how cheap of a price we can get somebody. However, I would love to make it more affordable or how convenient things are. However, we try to make it as convenient as possible, but relationships are how we want to operate.

Yeah, and I think you guys do a great job. I mean, we met you at the farmer's market. Of course, we did. We meet everyone at the farmer's market.

But, you know, one of the things that, you know, I've been looking at more and more as a physician is, you know, really trying to do deep dives on what exactly might be in the raw milk, for instance, that is so good for toddlers and young children versus when they pasteurize it.

So if you don't mind spending a minute or two, just telling us a little bit about what raw, you know, how do you harvest your raw milk? What do you do? Is there certain regulations? Maybe you should touch on that, like the regulations of raw milk first.

And then in our next segment, we can kind of bridge that in.

Sure. Yeah. So regulations are huge. Raw milk is not legal in in the US and and raw milk is not even allowed to be sold in any way, shape or form through any program, herd share or microdairy in in a good chunk of states in the US.

And there are different ways that you can sell there are three ways you can sell in Texas and not two of them aren't even really selling it.

I'm using air quotes and you can't see them, but one of them you can only genuinely sell raw milk and the other two are participation awards for being a part of it.

And that is being a part of the herd share or being a part of the program.

And so the first one is you can be a microdairy. And that is genuinely how you are able to sell raw milk. That is healthy weight dairy. That is striker. There's a handful of others here.

There's Jersey Barnyard. There's majors farm. Those are all licensed microdories that you can buy directly from no strings attached. You just buy it.

Now there's all say, you know, great a raw milk for pet consumption, that kind of stuff.

And ours does too, but that is one way. And that comes with a lot of decent amount of red tape and this, that and the other.

We are not there and we don't choose to do that for a couple of reasons, but I will save those for later.

Second way is you can do a private membership agreement. And that is where you have, you can do that with meat, veggies, raw milk, all the things.

And you have someone pay a certain amount of money every month and they get a share of your farm, your ranch, whatever you're producing every single month, which we've looked heavily into that.

But it takes a ton of commitment from the community and and the farmer to keep all that in line.

And then the last one is herd share, which we operate on, which is how people are able to get raw milk from our family.

But they're also able to get manure from the cows. And if we slaughter a beef, they're also able to get beef from the cows and things of that nature.

And that is another way that you're able to get raw milk here in Texas is through a herd share, which is requires an annual monetary agreement.

So a financial amount, a written or verbal agreement, and then also a prepaid amount of what that share is and ours is a half gallon mason jar.

So those are the three ways you can get raw milk here in Texas.

Awesome.

Well, you know, in our next segment, we'll do a deeper dive as to the nutritional values and everything that raw milk really permits the body to to assimilate and hope the body in so many different ways.

And I'm really excited to hear your take on that because I think this is where people are going to learn.

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And we're back. Thank you so much for joining us today. And I'm here with Drew and he has Sinner, Sinner Ghosts. Is that how you say it? Sinner Ghosts?

Sinner Ghosts. Okay. Sinner Goss. Sorry. I've been I've been changing the name just because I can't really say it. Sinner Goss farms here locally in Alvin, Texas, which happens to be the hometown of the great Nolan Ryan.

But for those of you that are baseball fans, there's a fun fact.

But you know, we're talking about this because this is a really hot topic. People want to get healthier. They want to eat organic foods, do things the healthy way the way God intended and get back to nature.

And so I think, you know, we're seeing just this resurgence, especially lately, a farmer's markets, because I could tell you 10 years ago.

Actually, when I moved to Texas, a couple, let's say a couple decades ago, one of my biggest pet peeves was the fact that there was no farm markets.

And I'm like, this is Texas. This is a huge area. We should have some farm markets. And I would have to I lived in Galveston at the time and I would have to go all the way.

To Froberg's farms, which was not very close. It was almost an hour from where I lived in Galveston.

And but then one of the things that was really upsetting, I mean, they do grow a lot of food there. So I was pretty excited, especially during strawberry season, you can go pick it.

But a lot of the stuff is labeled, you know, that is from different countries. And so it's basically just an outdoor supermarket in my estimation.

And I grew up in the Northeast where we had farmers markets and or side stands, like people would just put roadside stands out there and sell their produce or whatever it is that they were selling, which when I first moved down here, I was so upset about.

And we really didn't have farmers markets. Well, in the last, especially year, maybe two now, the farmers market circuit is just exploding. And I think you feel that too, because we're always asking you when we come up.

Hey, where are you going to be next? In case we miss you, like where else do you go? In case we miss you at this market. And so, you know, we really enjoy the raw milk, you know, we're part of your consortium.

And we really enjoy the produce. We enjoy talking to you on those Saturdays when you're there. Your wife is delightful. I think she may or may not have told you that I gave her a whole bunch of organic rosemary last week.

Yep, that was me. And so, you know, when we are building these relationships and trying to get healthy, because we know scientifically that if you eat organic foods for seven days, only seven days, that your body will eliminate 90% of certain microplastics that we don't even know are in our food.

And, you know, that's things that we keep our food in that leech into our food stuff. So, I really enjoy the fact that we get to do things a little differently nowadays and that we've met some really amazing people at these farmers markets.

So, if you would, Drew, tell people a little bit about what's the difference between raw milk and pasteurized milk.

That's a great question. So, the difference is raw milk is straight from the cow. In an hour case, filtered twice before it goes into the jar.

So, when we first started, we would milk the cow by hand, believe it or not. And I made a commitment to milk 250 gallons of milk by hand before I got a milk machine.

And we milked by hand, and that was filtered once at that point. But anyways, we, yeah, that's how we did it. And we offered it that way.

And what we began to see, not only in our family, we had seen it quite a bit at that point. And what other people were beginning to see was just how their body handled different foods.

So, as far as nutritional, nutrition profile of raw milk, the simplest way I can put it is why do cows produce milk? They produce milk for their calf.

And their calf drinks that milk almost solely for the first week or two of life, sometimes even longer depending on the calf, but solely drinking that milk.

And that milk is building tendons, ligaments, muscles, linings of their stomach, specifically the bacteria in their room, which is their first stomach, so that they can later on process and eat, grass, and turn it into beautiful milk and meat.

And that is incredible.

So raw milk is pretty magical in that sense. And it also changes in the lactation as the cow gives milk, which also affects us too.

And we see that effect in mom mother's breast milk when they have a child. And so it operates very, it's very similar in that.

And so we get the opportunity to drink it and it not only affects our gut, but it helps prepare our guts to receive other foods, some that maybe in years past or weeks or months or decades past that we could not process very well.

In fact, there is a young woman in her family and she hasn't drank or eaten dairy in she said years.

And she said she's tried all the different, you know, microdarees around. And she couldn't process the milk that they that they were giving and selling.

And she tried ours and she said, I don't know what's different about y'all's, which I don't really know a whole lot of difference. I can tell you what we do, but I don't know 100% of their program.

Nor do I care to bash any of them. So, but she's able to process ours. And I could say, well, maybe a large part of that is because we do our best to feed just grass.

Some of our cows cannot produce milk the way that they their body needs to or desires to on just grass alone.

So they do get grain, but we do our best to sprout that grain before it is given to the cows, which then in all realness and fairness, it becomes a leafy green, a very small micro leafy green, but it is in fact a leafy green.

So, yeah. And the raw milk not only has great stuff for your gut, but it also helps you genuinely build muscle. And it has plenty of fat. It is the best meal replacement you could possibly have.

So, as a farmer rancher, when I am having a really, really busy day and I genuinely don't have time to stop and make myself a meal, I actually just did this not that long ago.

I stop and I will pour, yes, a quart of milk. And which is a, which is a beautiful glass of milk. And I will pour that whole stinking thing and I will drink it. And that is my meal. Sometimes, if I'm feeling real good, I'll drink a whole entire half gallon.

And that sets me on a great path for at least the next two to three hours. And so it is protein, it's vitamins, it's minerals, it's hydration. And I will share this one last story. And that is that there was a old farmer that I talked to maybe two or three years ago.

And we were talking and I mentioned that we had dairy cows and he said, no kidding. And I said, yes, sir. He said, man, when I was a younger guy, he said, and I was working alongside my dad and my grandpa, he said, whenever we would get hot, he said, you know, they don't really have gatorade or anything as accessible back whenever I was a kid.

He and he said, and we would go inside and we would drink a really tall glass of milk. And I looked at him kind of weird. And he was like, you know, he could tell that I was a little weirded out by that. And he said, but he said, is the best hydrating liquid you could possibly drink.

He said, now you don't want to go jump up and down outside after that because you might upchuck it, but it is extremely hydrating. And we see that benefit within ourselves, but also with the animals that consume it too.

So those, that's just a little bit about the nutrition of it. But I would say the biggest thing that we've seen in our family.

And I think a lot of other people have seen in theirs is their gut. And there is a direct correlation between the health of your gut and the health of your body.

Absolutely. Yeah, we absolutely. I think you're spot on with that. And I think what people don't understand. And for some reason, you know, the persona of raw milk gets a bad rap because people think it's like, quote, unquote, dirty, right?

Because it's not pasteurized. And so therefore pasteurization in some people's mind equals cleanliness or something along that line. But you know pasteurization will kill enzymes.

And enzymes are very important in our gut enzymes are very important breaking down foods. And so when you talk about filtration, you said, well, we filter our milk twice. What does that mean exactly?

Yeah. So 100% agree with you that pasteurization is clean. I 100% agree with that argument. You are 100% right. But guess what? We were made of dirt and things that come organically from the earth can be a little dirty.

Raw milk does not need to be one of those things. But I think people in their mind just need to understand that if there's dirt on my carrots or bugs on my lettuce or this that or the other, that's actually a really good thing.

Because if something else wants to eat your food, that's a good sign. If something else doesn't want to eat your food, not a good sign.

Good point. So much as we complain about that, right? Good point. Never thought of it that way. But now thank you.

I want pretty potatoes. I want pretty, you know, I'm like, yeah, no kidding. Who doesn't? But I 100% agree that pasteurization is a very clean thing. It is.

But pasteurization was created to solve a problem of bad stewardship, not to solve a problem of much of anything else.

It was a problem of trying to grow and demand of something that was needed in our nation, which I mean, if that doesn't hit a point on many things in our nation or many things across the world, I don't know what will.

But it was created to try to help stump some big issues that we're seeing in sickness and people, which I think is awful that we have we're having people get sick.

But it was a stewardship problem and it still is a stewardship problem. But we filter twice. So we use a milk machine and we have been for the last three years.

And we hook our animals up. We clean their udders with soapy water hot hot hot soapy water, like hotter than my fan, my fingers and hands can stand.

We wash their utter as, I mean, as clean as possible. And meaning there are still going to be the natural things of the utter on that cow.

But we get all the dirt, all the mud, all that stuff off of the cow. We clean it and we sanitize the utter. And then we hook it up to the milk machine and it goes into something called the claw.

And it goes into a food grade tube into the tank. Well, in between that food, that claw and the tank, there is a inline filter, which gets changed out every time we milk.

And then there is a filter, we use an organic cotton filter in between our milk, when our milk goes from the pale into our milk chiller, which our milk chiller, this is actually a really big big deal with raw milk to make sure that it does not grow unnecessary bacteria.

And this process, but it takes our milk from the 101 degrees that comes out of the utter app, which is pretty wild to think of that.

But it takes it from that temperature all the way down to 36 to 34 degrees within just minutes.

And the goal is two hours to be able to get it down to that temperature in two hours, but it does this within, I mean, I would say the longest I've ever seen it.

Because we had 30 plus gallons in the tank, I saw it take roughly 22 minutes to do that.

And so it gets really nice and chilled, but before it goes in there, we have this big, beautiful stainless steel filter that has an organic cotton filter in the middle of it.

And that filters out in possibly any other thing that could end up in the milk between that inline filter and the tank, which it does happen sometimes.

But it almost at most times, it feels like a waste of a filter.

But every time we pour a new bucket in, that filter is changed.

That filter does not stay in there for the duration because it takes us anywhere from an hour and 45 minutes to two and a half hours to milk our current lineup.

So yeah, that's what it means to filter twice and a little bit about why pasteurization was created.

That's awesome. And so when you, are you ceiling in more nutrient by chilling it that fast? Is that the idea?

That is part of it because we got to understand something. And this is why when we go from field to fork, people say farm to fork, but I will just say field to fork.

The moment that something is harvested, the moment that life is taken. And this is, for all my vegans out there, so many people say that vegan doesn't take life.

Vegan takes life. And there are, there is life and plants just like there's life and animals. And so that's really a really tough reason to be a vegan, but I totally respected if people choose to be.

But the moment that something is harvested, whether it's a carrot or a lettuce or a beef or a pig for pork or chicken or whatever it might be or milk within itself, the moment it's harvested, the highest nutrient density it's ever going to have is within the first 48 hours of it being harvested.

So the faster you can consume that milk, that carrot, that lettuce, that meat, the better, the more nutrients you're going to get inside your body.

So the, the temperature doesn't have so much to do with that. It does some, but that is more to make sure that that raw form of milk does not grow unnecessary bacteria, which could potentially harm people.

And so with raw things, we just have to be really careful and diligent about handling those things well before we pass them on to consumers.

Absolutely. Wow. This is fascinating. I hope people are really learning something from this, because I know that there are different ways for these dairies to harvest their milk and the different rules and regulations.

And you kind of touched on that in the previous segment. But, you know, in our next segment, I'd like to kind of go into a little bit more about regenerative farming, because I believe you're a regenerative farmer.

And I think this is something that a lot of people really are curious about and don't really understand fully. So I'm really excited to get into that in our next segment.

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And we're back. I am so thrilled that we're decided to agree to be interviewed today because this is not my strong suit.

You know, regenerative farming. I have a black thumb. I can't really grow anything except that rosemary that I gave to your wife. But in that, you know, I just, I try really hard and I don't do it so hot.

But, you know, I really, really respect people. I know how hard it is to have a farm and to work it as a small, you have small children. You have really young kids.

And, you know, it's, it's hard to raise a family, but it must be even tenfold worse when you, when you have a farming, you have animals and you have fields to take care of and you have a business to run and things of that nature. But other families that I talk to that are, that are similar, you know, that they, they kind of draw the business around their kids.

They try to get their kids involved. And I'm sure you and your wife do the same, your wife grouching. And so can you go a little bit into what is regenerative farming? How can you get your families involved, especially smaller kids? I mean, your kids, how old are your kids?

Yeah. So we have an eight year old, a eight, almost nine, a seven year old and a three year old. And they're all very much involved.

Yeah, they're, they're small kids. And so, you know, it's hard sometimes for them to, you know, pay attention to you saying, go wash your, be your face. Never mind. Hey, go milk a cow.

So how is it that you guys have this awesome farm? Is it a regenerative farm? Am I correct in saying that?

Yes, man.

Awesome. Can you explain to our listeners what a regenerative farm is and how do you get your kids involved in it?

You bet. So I want to share just kind of a picture of what that looks like overall. And then I want to share some like principles or values with you about what that, what that when why we focus on those things and how that ultimately feeds this picture that I'm about to share with you.

And that is when you think of the word regenerate, I think of those lizards when I was a kid that I would accidentally grab by the tail and they would grow their tail back like that always blew my mind when I was a little kid. And that's what I think about.

And so our agricultural system since early early 1900s, I say early early like 1930, 1940 when we started to get into these places where men were going off to war that we're not a lot of men here, we started to develop these industrial systems to provide food to a large mass of people instead of just family to family or neighbor to neighbor.

And what it begins developing was how fast can I produce something in a large quantity without without a lot of labor.

Well, the labor part, I don't think anyone's ever figured out, but the other two things we've done a lot of things to for lack of a better bastardize the food and which the soil came from.

I mean, which it came from in the soil. So back to the gut, we see a direct correlation in so much research that there is a direct correlation from healthy guts are direct correlation to healthy soil.

And so why is it important to buy from regenerative farms or ranches? Well, if you want to have a healthy gut, it is imperative that you find someone that's doing things healthy with the soil.

And I don't mean sustaining soil health, I mean building it, building it not just for today, not for next week, not next month, but for years to come.

And this is a hard thing for us because we lease property, we don't own the property.

And so we're building soil health for years to come in which land we men ever steward again after our leases up.

But that is a kingdom mindset and not a world mindset. And so we try not to get discouraged by that because these principles help keep us moving forward regardless of whatever soil we are tending to.

Because we see healing happen very quickly in life forms show back up and live livestock and birds and all these animals show back up into systems into into the into the environments and which they were once but because of how the land was being managed were dissipating at an alarming rate.

And so we're seeing that happen right now on this this property that we're on which is a small 68 acres, which when I say small, I mean that genuinely it's not like I don't think 68 acres isn't big, it is big.

And there's a lot of responsibility, but when you think about it and what we do, it is a pretty small amount of land when it comes to what we feel like we've been called to do.

But one of the first things is soil health, building soil and the microbiology within it, that means that we focus on what is best for the soil.

That's like one of our first questions that we ask when we're moving an animal building a system, putting in infrastructure, whatever it might be, if it is just going to be terrible for the soil, we just don't do it.

What we do that is by cover crops, rotational grazing, high impact grazing for that matter, and then multi species diversity, so sheep go sheep cattle, pigs, chickens, that is what we currently run, we even have ducks and turkeys seasonally throughout the year.

So we multiple hubs on the ground mean that everything on that soil is being tested, but it's also being fertilized by four different animals, which means four different nutrient profiles of manure going into that soil, depending on the environment.

So, and then we also think about it ethically like what is it, how do we treat these animals well so that they perform well on that soil, and then we also think about resilience and mitigation, meaning we, we proactively are a part of helping not just build a farm and a ranch that is producing nutrient dense food,

because there is research that shows that regenerative farms and ranches are producing more nutrient dense foods than your average conventional farm.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

You're right, you're right with that. I mean, that's one of the things that when I talked to parents that I try to tell them, you know, listen, you know, the broccoli of 1950 is not the same broccoli that we have today.

You know, the density of our nutrition is just in the toilet right now because of what you're saying, the mass production, the GMO, the growing things as quickly and as big as possible so that they can harvest it and I understand one part we do feed the world as Americans, but we have done so at a significant cost.

And I mean, your farm just just as a comparison, I was watching a documentary a couple of years ago about a regenerative farm, this family out in California, I think they had seven acres.

I think it was only seven acres and it took them years to get it to regenerate. They actually had someone come in and help them and then they started like this co-op thing and so people came to learn how to promote and to keep up with a regenerative farm.

So when you say 65 acres, that just blows my mind because that documentary was on seven and it was just so amazing to see the transformation of those little seven acres.

So I can't imagine when it's going to look like when on 60 plus.

Yeah, yeah, and one of the coolest things about regenerative farming, which is a I would say it is a byproduct of what we get to do and that is that we are we are we know that pasture land is is one of the largest carbon sequestering systems on our planet.

Yet at an alarming rate, these stupid data centers, which I get it, they think we need them, but you can't eat electric stuff.

You can't eat money, you can't eat AI, you have to eat food and I don't want to eat and I don't think a lot of people want to eat lab grown BS.

And because Lord only knows what's in there and it's made from animal blood anyways, so we got to get that from somewhere anyways, no tangents, but we but we we see that that is a carbon sequestering system, which is a huge conversation that is happening in our world right now.

We're trying to, you know, do it with solar panels, which not a terrible thing with wind turbines, not a terrible thing.

We're trying to like manage the energy of our of our planet, but at the end of the day, the most important thing with in our system as a people and globally is the soil of our planet.

We'll help keep the aquifers full and hold water.

It will it will make sure that our soil temperature our our our land temperature stays cooler.

The difference between naked soil and covered soil, meaning soil that is distilled and left naked to dry or covered soil that's allowed to rest and recover properly.

The temperature difference there on a 90 degree day is absolutely insane.

The amount of water that it can with hope that it can hold is absolutely insane and the difference between the carbon that's released versus the carbon that's sequestered is absolutely insane.

In fact, there's a really great.

There are two really great little documentaries. One is called biggest little farm. It's a group in California.

They have two, I think, movies now all their own Disney or Amazon. I can't remember.

But great education as far as more in depth of what this means.

And then there is a golly. I lost the name of the second one. But anyways, but great documentary on on regenerative farming and what that can do.

But we we get the opportunity to help be a part of the global solution when it comes to carbon being in our air and destroying our world.

And yet so many people can look at this and say, yeah, no, cows grazing on grass is the global problem for carbon in our air.

And it's just it's ridiculous.

But you know, when when you are teaching the next generation, like you are with your three kiddos about how to care for animals, how to, you know, be a good steward of the soil, be a good steward of of just others, right?

Because eventually, I mean, you know, the dinner table is one of the greatest things because that's where you kind of decompress at the end of the evening, you kind of find out what's going on with everyone during the day.

And it's kind of just a regroup and a connection time. And I know that you and your wife also do, I believe you guys do a kind of like a mission around, I believe it's around Thanksgiving, I could be wrong.

Where you kind of invite people in, is that right?

That is correct. Yeah, so we have a dinner called the gathering table. We are hoping to do more than just Thanksgiving in years to come, but we have a deep conviction to help reach the forgotten groups of this world.

And I think Jesus said it best. And he said to care for the widows and orphans.

And because of that, we were sitting and looking at our farm and it was just like, man, we really want to be a part of something bigger than ourselves, although we're part of the church, which is much bigger than ourselves.

And we, I read that and I showed it with my wife and I said, man, what if? And we just begin to dream. And we thought about doing this dinner and we've done it for two years now.

We have a gathering table where we bring in a top tier chef and we use farm to table ingredients all local, not a green wash version, but genuinely local ingredients.

We provide this four to five course meal, four widows and orphans at this long communal table out in the pasture under the lights, the Friday before Thanksgiving.

And this is 100% free to the people who attend. And so we raise funds to help do that just by generous givers and we are not a 501 C3.

So it takes a lot of trust. I get it to give us money to be able to do that, but through the faithfulness of what God has given us and the stewardship.

We have been able to meet the need to take care of those dinners the last two years.

Our goal is to ultimately have people come who are potentially feeling alone and forgotten and to leave feeling heard, seed, loved and cared for.

And all four of those things happen being able to happen in a very short amount of time.

And we have heard story after story after story of adults, children, elderly people who have come to those those last two dinners and have genuinely felt loved and cared for and seen and heard and have said we really want to come into the next one.

Yeah, that's beautiful. I mean, I think we that's part of being a neighbor, right? I mean, we're kind of reconnecting we're recombining after the debacle of 2020 where everyone was separate and told to stay away and don't hug and all the crazy things.

And so it's a beautiful thing that you guys are doing to bring people together. I think it's it's amazing.

Do you do you have any internships or like say someone wants to learn a little bit about regenerative farming or raw milk or whatever do you allow people to come in and actually generally learn from you and come in and help you with your farm.

Yes, we do. We absolutely do. So we have the opportunity for people to come and volunteer and that does require them to be here about eight hours a week at minimum.

And the reason why we say that is because we want people to learn consistently. Right.

You can come one one time a month and you may forget what you learned the last time you're here.

We're only there for an hour.

We also and we've taken a break from it this year because we really want to nail down what it what it looks like to continue to do it well and that is we offer a farm school.

How would people find out about farm school like how I mean, you're like this gem that's hidden somewhere and people, you know, people really want to learn this stuff. So how do you find out about farm school.

Yeah. So there's there's three things that we do that are big education. One is farm tours. We we just had one March 28th.

And it was great. And that is that is a really great way to come and get kind of a glimpse of what we do to really figure out if this is something I really want to press into.

The second thing is you can volunteer. I would say that that's kind of the second step to that.

And then and you can do that by going on our our Instagram or social media. There's links for these things.

And then the last thing I would say is farm school, which will start back up probably spring of 27.

And we offer that for ages four or four to eight.

Yes. I believe it's four to eight. And then eight to 12. And then there's a group for 13 plus.

And that's called the stewardship group. And that group works specifically with me. The other two do not.

They work with other teachers who are better with younger kids than me.

And so all three of those opportunities you can find by following us on social media by joining our newsletter.

But be real transparent and absolutely real about all this. We are like a teenager when it comes to business right now.

We're also figuring out these things and they're kind of clunky. So ultimately if people want to reach out to us about any of these things we talk about gathering table purchasing things.

They can just go to our website. There's a contact us page there. You can write what you want to learn or information that you need.

It'll send us an email and we can reply right back to you.

That's awesome. And you're just so that people know your website is.

S-Y-N-E-R-G-O-S-Farm.com.

So CenterGhostFarm.com is where you can find all this information. It's a beautiful website.

I really enjoyed talking to you today.

Thank you so much Drew. Drew and his family are amazing. And if you get a chance and you happen to be in the Southeast Houston area,

look them up and maybe you'll be able to do a farm tour.

That would be awesome.

Yeah, thank you so much. Have a great rest of your day everybody and we'll see you next week.