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About Last Night: Should We Be Critical of Stephen Vogt & RIP Barry Melrose

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Ken and Anthony bring in producer John to break down the Guardians' meltdown loss, where Foster Griffin gave up eight runs in the third inning, and question why Stephen Vogt didn't pull him sooner and why his measured postgame comments feel too much like Todd Monken-style spin for a team fighting for a wild card spot. They also wonder if the Guardians got a lemon in the Griffin trade given his ballooning ERA since the deal. The segment closes with a tribute to longtime ESPN hockey analyst Barry Melrose, who died at 70, with both hosts crediting his personality for making hockey watchable for non-fans.

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About Last Night: Should We Be Critical of Stephen Vogt & RIP Barry Melrose

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The Ken Carman Show with Anthony LimaAbout Last Night: Should We Be Critical of Stephen Vogt & RIP Barry Melrose. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

I'm so much can happen around the globe that we never hear of. I really don't get a s***. I mean, I didn't undo it with me. We may move the meeting. I didn't miss it. I was just trying to get a sweet haircut. How it is when you win and cleave my man. I love you. When you lose. It's the way it should be. He's a piece of crap. The kid, he sucked. He sucked his whole career. I got a room with some fire in. I think the police is right. So now he's the boss. That sounds really good, but I'm not 65 and I don't have the athletic ability to play in the NBA. Now the Ken Carman show with Anthony Lima gives their thoughts on what you might have missed about last night. Last night got off to a great start for the Guardians. Chased the lottery homeward in that first inning after missing the last three games. Then it was all downhill from there. Foster Griffin allowed eight runs in the third inning and never made it out of the inning. I couldn't believe it. What did you think of a vote not pulling the plug earlier? Was it saving the bullpen thing? Was he punting the game?

Me and Meredith thought like I was in a commercial break during the preview show and we're in the back. We're going, are you going to pull them or what are we doing here? You're just letting Matt Thess to continue to get warmed up. It probably wasn't that bad. We were just in such a hurry to pull the guy because the inning was just going horrifically. Well, here is Stephen vote post game. We're going to win series. We're going to lose series. It's happens all year. We got to continue to just keep working. We're not going to let one loss or one series loss get us down. We're still right where we need to be. We're just going to continue to work and take each game as it is. We're going to win our next game. Enjoy this off day. These guys have more than earned a good off day tomorrow and we'll be ready for Minnesota. I just wish it's even. What was that? I just wish he would take a page out of Todd Munkin's book. I kind of. What? I think he's taking a page of Todd's Munkin's book. I will thank him to be a little bit more honest about where the team stands right now. Yeah, so that's how it's been really honest.

I think Todd Munkin and his late Kiffin were like the disagree with you on that. I think Todd Munkin has been straight forward. I think Stephen Vosha is like, yeah, it's just like you guys. You guys, he has rubbed off on you guys because it's like, oh yeah, it's baseball. There's 15 games left. There's not that many serious left. They're only up in the wildcard by one game. They have to be ahead of the blue. He's not rubbed off on us. The guardians since 2000, the former Indians have rubbed off on us. I mean, that's again, you're used to baseball in Philadelphia. We're used to baseball in Cleveland. We are always playing the long game. And yes, that frustrates a lot of fans to hear that because we basically accepted it. That this is the reality of the situation. But I don't need Stephen Vosha while the team is still in a position to be a wildcard team or even still win the division. Screaming and yelling and ranting and raven about a bad ending. It wasn't like Foster Griffin was doing an on purpose. It was just a terrible ending. I wish he would have pulled it. It wasn't like Matt Festa wasn't going to come in and just give those runs up anyway. Yeah, I'm not really worried about that.

That too. I'm worried about this team. This is the worst season for the American League in ever. Like, if you don't make the playoffs this season, what does that say about your team? Like this is your, your, in one of the worst divisions in the world. They went super young. They're giving guys, young guys, rookies and opportunity. But then we had shirt off on last week. Basically admitted, this is how it's going to be every year. He's like, this is how it is. This is where we're always going to be young. So it's like they're not really going to be given an excuse there. I wonder Foster Griffin. He's basically doubled his ERA since he came here. It was only five, four year. There was only five, seven starts. But he had struggled to two starts right before the trade. So if you add those two starts in as well, did they, did they get a lemon here? Because we thought this was an all star. Did we, did we end up getting a lemon here? Well, he may have three more starts to the team anyways. So it might not matter. By the way, how many people tuned out after Festa came in? Did you? Be honest. I was out before he came in.

Okay, I, when he came in, I was like, all right, that's it. We're moving on. We're going to finish this preview show and get ready for the end of the episode. What? The white flag. Yeah. We'll see you tomorrow night. White flag, Festa. That's where it came. And I'm exactly what I said. And go well tomorrow is another day. He has been hockey and former NHL player and head coach Barry Melrose has died at age 70. I'm not the biggest hockey fan in the world. I know you guys aren't really either, but Barry was, he was a blood face at the sport. And I'll always remember him for that. This is sports center commercial where he's crying during the Canadian national anthem. Did you get to see a lot of Barry Melrose in his, in his analysis on sports center and ESPN? That's, that's kind of a, that's what you know him from. But do you remember, because I'm, I'm not ageism here, but there's a difference. I don't remember anything really specific. I just remember he had a sweet ass mullet and he was a guy that, he kind of made you get fired up about hockey. Well, he drew that. Okay. So John does remember it. So as a guy who has respected hockey and every year, I'm like, oh, I should get into hockey and it never happens and it probably never will.

He had a way of drawing me in. And it wasn't like like grapes cherry was so crazy and off the wall, but you know, he's up in Canada. I didn't get to really see him until the very end and then things got weird. Barry Melrose had a way of drawing you in and, and relating it to where like, all right. If I didn't care before, I kind of care. And if I kind of cared, I half ass care, like there was still an interest. And I thought he was an interesting personality. I thought he made it interesting. I thought he made it fun. Probably the less you knew about hockey, the more you gravitated towards Barry Melrose to put it in simple terms for somebody who didn't know the sport. All that well, now, never forget when they yanked the NHL contract for me, SVN. That's turned out to be devastating because they stopped covering it on sports center when people were saying, sports center when people were still watching sports center. So they would go to the Stanley Cup finals and their coverage would consist of Barry Melrose and like some, you know, anchor face.

And that's all it would be. That would be their coverage. They would even give him a desk, but like two guys in a hallway. Here's our Stanley Cup coverage. And they would roll it out. And it just underscored what a massive hit it was to the NHL when they went off of ESPN that first time. Like I got nothing against John Bootsugross or any of the other guys that they've ever had or even Emily Kaplan. But like he just he had that there was just something I wanted to watch. And I never tuned out because they were doing hockey while they were doing all the other highlights back in the day. And he's again one of those guys that was able to relate it and he's going to be missed. That's it for about last night. John, outstanding as always. You're a wonderful young man, a really wonderful young man. And we appreciate your help during the segment of about last night coming up in five minutes. Yes, I will tune in and yes, mostly because it's in another country. Ken Carmen, Anthony Lime, a Mary K Cabot 822 on the fan.

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