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would you pay a million dollar for your mama?

I think so.

You would, why?

Uh, because she's my family.

Oh.

How about you?

I would.

You pay a million dollar for your mama?

I pay anything for your mama.

Yeah, I love your mama.

How about you?

I don't know.

I have to be in that situation.

I don't have a million.

I don't know.

But how about if you had it?

If I had it, um...

I don't know.

I don't know.

So you'd ask you if you were paid a million?

I have to see how much of my heart shouldn't get full.

That has a whole million?

Would you pay a million?

Only if it's okay.

We don't need to mind it.

Oh, Jay, say yes.

Oh, okay.

So what?

Only if I get back $1.5 million a year,

that's about it.

Only if we get what?

If I get back $1.5 million a year,

that's about it.

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Amazing.

Good morning.

Welcome to Fellowship.

I am Jesse Lee Peterson.

You can get involved by going to our YouTube chat line

and hate will pass on your questions and comments to me.

I asked the question of my experts on the show.

I asked them,

if someone stole your mother,

would you pay a million dollars to get her back?

And they didn't know what to say.

Well, a couple of them said,

yeah, no.

Would you pay a million dollar for your mama?

Not at all.

You would not pay a million dollars?

You would just let the kind that would keep her?

Yeah.

I would warn them first.

Yeah, no.

That's amazing.

For sure.

Raymond, you pay a million dollars to get your mother back.

That won't be necessary since he passed away.

But how about if she wasn't dead?

And someone kidnapped your mother

and would you offer a million dollars to get her back?

I would think myself,

is she worth it?

I would ask my answer at this qualifying no.

Really?

That's amazing.

Would you pay for your mother?

If I had the funds, yes, I wouldn't.

So if you had a million dollars

and your mother would tend out

and you would give a million dollar to get her back?

Yes, I would.

And why?

Because she's my mom no matter what.

Do you need a mama?

Do I what?

Do you need one?

It's not that I need or don't need.

It's just still my mother.

But if you don't, do you need a mother?

No, I don't need.

So why do you get it?

Why do you pay a million dollars?

Because I wouldn't want her to be kidnapped

and I would want to save her.

No.

But then she's going to die of probably next year or so anyway.

Still, she's my mother.

She's the woman who raised me right or wrong.

That or not, I would want to save her.

Let's say, just for the fun of it,

they came up with your father and your mother

and they said, okay, you can only get one back for a million dollars.

Who would you choose?

Probably my mother.

You would why?

Because she was the one always there with me.

For example, I grew up, she raised me.

And she's maybe weaker or woman.

And it's a tough one to respond.

But yeah, I would save my mother.

So you would tell the kidnapper, I want my mama back.

You can keep your daddy.

Of course, I want both of them.

If I only have one choice and I can do only one,

it would be my mother because she's probably

being more scared and terrified.

And my father probably would be more strong.

And probably my father probably would want the same

to save my mother.

Really?

That's amazing.

It is.

I just wonder, because this lady,

mother was stolen according to her report.

And they haven't found the mother yet.

And so she offered a million dollars.

I'm like, what the?

They had already offered 200,000.

I guess the people they want, 200,000.

So she offered a million.

Did you hear about this story?

No, I didn't.

A woman out of Arizona.

Did you hear about that?

Some lady out of Arizona.

Anybody know the story?

What?

Yeah.

Something happened.

Gearth 3, something like that.

Her mother was stolen.

They see offered a million dollars.

Amazing.

Yeah, as far as I know.

They haven't found a yet.

Amazing.

So, how y'all?

So we see how much y'all love y'all, mama.

Any questions before I get rolling?

Yes, sir.

Change the mic for me.

Is this your first time here?

Yes, my first time here.

What's your first name?

My first name is Cedric.

And how do you hear about a Cedric?

A friend of mine showed me a clip of yours long time ago.

Oh, OK.

Like 10 years ago.

But then, lately, I was trying to get rid of my anger

and live on a strict and narrow path.

It came across again and I've been listening for a while now.

Where are you from?

I'm originally from Rwanda, Africa.

Oh, yeah.

But I traveled here from Tucson, Susanne,

to Gearth 3's neighborhood.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, in Tucson, Arizona.

That's where we live.

Right on.

Yes.

So you knew about this story, huh?

Yes, yes.

We've been following it's now an area, so.

Right on.

Yeah.

OK.

So you had a question.

Yes, yes.

I was having a chat with my colleagues,

my friend last night.

And we talked about luck.

What is the role of luck?

For folks who want to live life right?

How do you think about it?

Is it something you ignore or you put yourself in luck?

In luck people?

I don't know what to make of luck.

What do you think about luck?

Luck, yes.

People who live life based on luck.

No luck for people.

OK.

You don't want to live a life based on luck.

You want to live a life based on absolute knowing that it's fine.

But is that such a thing as luck?

No.

No.

It's a made up word because that's what Satan does.

He make up words to deceive the people.

Oh, that was good luck.

That wasn't good luck.

Interesting.

Thank you.

Do you live by luck or do you walk in the light?

For me, the way I approach it, I don't think about it.

And when it happens, I don't give it so much credence.

I just move on as if I was supposed to happen

and I didn't have anything to do about it.

Basically, I ignore the existence of luck.

Even though I know it's a thing people talk about.

It helps me not to think too much.

I haven't thought of that word.

It's so long I forgot that word, is this it?

That's amazing.

It kind of stayed with me last night when we were having a chat

and I was like, OK, maybe when I get a chance I'll ask this question.

Do you drop your anger?

Yes.

You have no anger?

Zero.

Right on.

Yes.

Are you doing the prayer and everything?

Yes.

Right on.

Well, cool, man.

Thank you.

We'll stay with it.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Any other?

Yes.

Hi.

Good morning.

Jenn.

Jenn.

Welcome, Jenn.

Thank you.

So my question is on the forgiveness part, my father is still alive.

So I called my father and I had the conversation with him.

And that was great, actually.

And then my mother died.

So I don't know how to process the saying, I'm sorry for resenting you

and all that without being able to physically do so.

The way you do it is to get to know yourself and you will see that you can't help yourself.

That's something else is controlling you.

And you don't want to be the way you are.

You don't want to be angry and jealous or whatever.

Your mother had the same problem.

Couldn't I help herself, right?

And so because you became like her, it will help you understand that she did the best she could.

She could not help herself.

And that will cause you to forgive her since she's dead.

Just realize she could not help herself.

Is that clear?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you doing the prayer and everything?

Yes.

Yes.

Have you dropped your anger?

Yes, but I still find it crops up.

But I mostly catch it.

Oh, good.

Yeah.

If you can catch it, this is you.

And this is the anger.

If you can catch it and just catch it, do nothing about it.

Just be aware of it.

And live with it, walk with it, sleep with it.

Don't take out on anyone.

Just take the pain and do nothing about it.

The light of God will come in and destroy the darkness.

It will take it away from you.

And eventually, I promise you, you will have no anger.

No matter what people are trying to do to hurt you, they can never touch you.

But you got to let the light destroy the darkness.

Anger is evil.

So stay with it.

Thank you.

Amazing.

Is he else?

Not right now.

All right.

Yes, ma'am.

Good morning, Jesse.

Good morning.

What's ironic is that your interaction with this lady actually just answered the question.

So I already got answered my question.

So my question was just for matter of fact, the question was how do you unbelieve something?

And I know that belief and lies are kind of in the same vein.

But we're talking about those kinds of beliefs that people shape a lot of their identity on.

Like, I'm black and because of that, I won't have the same opportunities as someone else.

Or, you know, a colonizer stole my land and I'm owed something.

That's why I don't, you know, do whatever I need to do today.

Or I'm a mother and I'm a nurturer.

So all of those identities, but you, your interaction with this lady,

helped me to see that the answer to that is how do you unbelieve something is to let the light shine on the darkness?

And it just has no where else to go.

The lies will start to reveal themselves.

And then, you know, there's just, there's nothing left.

Absolutely.

One thing for sure, you don't want to live a life of belief.

Right.

You know, people tell others, I hear the Christians say, believe in Jesus.

You ever heard that?

Believe in Jesus and you shall be saved.

And they believe in Jesus, nobody says.

They live a life of belief, never being saved.

I think that's one of the reasons why it became a question for me is because I see that interactions with people that I find to be in my social circle.

There's just some strong beliefs that would be really difficult for them to let go.

Just because it kind of really guides how they make a lot of decisions in their life.

And so that's why I had to read the heart.

People don't let things go because they don't want to let things go.

You don't think that if they saw it a different way that they would?

If they saw it, but they don't want to see it.

Okay.

The human beings love the thrill of life.

They love being angry.

They love being happy.

They love being sad.

They love crying.

They love having fear.

They love looking for love.

They love this and love that because it's all about the thrill.

The ego, human nature, love, the reals.

And they don't want to let that go.

But isn't that why you tell us not to judge because at one time we were all without...

We're not judged.

It's just because you see that.

I see that people love the reals.

I'm not judging them.

I understand.

But isn't it true though also in that same vein that we all were without all of those things at one time?

The real us didn't have any of all of this that was taught to us, that was given to us by our moms and dads.

Wasn't there a time when all of us kind of were connected to the light and didn't have all of these issues or all these thrills that we were so addicted to?

The real you don't love thrills at all.

It's the far you that love it.

The real you have never been into thrills.

Okay.

It's just that people think that if we all think we're in that farthest state, we all think that our thrills are who we are.

And that's why we hold on to them.

Okay.

I have one more question, Jesse.

So the real you don't love thrills, the real you is of love.

And that's the same for everyone.

Everyone.

Right.

Okay.

They just don't know it.

Right.

Okay.

My last question is...

And I don't know why I'm afraid to ask it.

I don't know how to ask it.

But can the devil ever tell the truth?

No.

No devil.

No saying.

That's why I don't know why I was like, wait a minute.

I don't know why I was apprehensive to ask that because sometimes when the thoughts come in your mind, you think to yourself,

well I think to myself, I can't speak for everybody else, but I think to myself, oh there's truth in that.

That's true.

But it's a thought.

So it can't be true.

Right.

But he doesn't, he doesn't ever tempt us with the truth.

No.

It's always with the lie.

Always with the lie.

Okay.

He's all lies all the time about anything.

Okay.

He cannot be, he hates the truth.

Okay.

Really, he hates it.

Okay.

Amazing.

Amazing.

Thank you.

Are you happy at work now?

Yes.

I am doing much, much better.

I was a hot, hot mess the last time I came in here.

I know.

I was, I was in the midst of a storm that the not me created.

And I thought it was me and tried to fight my own battles.

And in the minute I took my hand off of it and God was able to kind of come in and realign

and shed some, some strong light that I needed.

Because I was, I was a mess.

I was a mess.

I was a mess.

I was a mess.

I was a mess.

That's what you said.

You said, oh, Lord.

I could, you could visibly see the mess around me.

Oh, walking in the dark.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

So, but this was a great place to come when you need the hospital.

Do you believe in now to your DEI?

You know, I, I think.

I do feel.

You could go ahead and show down.

She thought you would be.

Yeah, it worked.

I, you know, because I just, I was so limited.

But it wasn't me.

Her brought to her.

No.

I'm not going to fire you doing an amazing job.

And if Satan told her, he'd just tell you that.

He's going to get rid of you.

She believed the lie.

Even though the boss said you're doing fine at work.

Is that amazing?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

But anyway, go ahead.

No, I think for me, I was, um, I was trying so hard to figure it out.

And, you know, we don't really discuss what happens in the women's forums at all.

Yeah.

But one of the things that, that kind of revealed itself in our exchange was that,

and I just lost it.

Oh, that's so annoying.

What about her?

Yeah, I think.

Yeah, it was, um, oh, I just lost it.

But it was, it was something to do with the, the meeting with my boss and, um, not,

oh, that's what it was.

I have a tendency to have a picture in my head.

And if that picture is not played out, I don't believe anything else.

I only believe that.

Oh, yes.

And that's, you know what I mean?

Like, I have to learn to stop building pictures in my head.

They're not real.

And they're just, it will never have that look.

Life will not have the look that's the picture in my head.

But I love painting pictures in my head.

All two of those saints love the pictures.

Sure.

In their head.

Sure.

And it gives you a sense of control.

It like, you get to pick the shade, the perfect shade of blue.

And you get to determine what, you know, if the grass is blowing in the wind this way,

or that way, all of that stuff is just not real.

Right.

And I was saying in my head, if this is my promotion, if this is where I'm at,

and this is where my life is, it has to look like this.

And that's just, it was the farthest thing from the truth.

She got a race right away.

She started with a D.E.R. race.

She thought they gave her a race because you were black.

Yeah.

She believed that.

Mm-hmm.

I would have been like, okay, where is this one?

That is the same, but that's the devil.

Okay.

Did you forgive your mother?

I did, but like the woman was saying, my mom passed away when I was a little girl.

And like the pictures in my head, when you told me that I had to forgive my mom,

I created a picture of what that was supposed to look like.

I even, she, you know, her grave site is far away from me,

but I even made a trip and did all this stuff that was not real in the sense that

it was checking all the boxes, like I was there, I brought flowers, I cried.

But ultimately, I still had not forgiven her because I couldn't understand

or place myself in her shoes and understand that I had that same evil inside of me.

But the minute that I started really, really digging deep into me and getting to know myself

and really knowing that I'm no different, then it was easier for me to say, yeah, I was wrong.

You know, I couldn't say I was wrong.

I was like, that lady was crazy.

She was mean, she was violent, she was, she destroyed everything around her,

and yet she was my mother, and I just couldn't, I couldn't relate.

And yet, once I started working on myself, I was like, shame on you, you are just like her.

So yeah, it took me connecting to myself more or working on myself in a different kind of way.

Good, we'll stay with it. Thank you, Jessie.

All amazing.

Amazing.

Any other questions? Come in. Yes, sir.

This one's for Mimi.

So, when I first got my job, literally the first day, the devil told me I'm going to get fired.

It's been four years now, and the devil still tells me the same thing.

And I'm at the exact same job.

I just wanted to let you know that.

It's dangerous to mess.

Oh, that's for sure.

I just ignore it now.

Right on.

Yes, sir.

So, how do you describe the difference between an idea versus a thought?

So, when can I have an idea?

Like, she's talking about pictures in your head.

Like, if I need to do something, but I don't have the right tool or whatever,

I know I could have an idea.

I could use this instead, Mickey Mouse it, make it work.

Right.

That's a practical thought. That's fine.

If you're working on your car or you're baking a cake or you use ideas about that,

but you don't live about that.

Well, what about?

When you bake the cake, you put the spoon down.

What about ideas and sense of like writing a song or artwork or contentures?

Always using it as a tool, but not to live out.

Or get any sense of identity from it at all.

Because you're never going to know God as long as you have ideas about God

or about his son or about that.

You know, psychological, emotional life.

Those things are keeping you in ideas.

You gotta let go.

Everything you've been taught about God.

I have no idea about Him or salvation or anything if you want to be free.

But He gave you the ability to take care of yourself on earth.

So He gave you the knowledge to do practical things in life.

But you don't live by them.

You should have any idea who you are at all.

You should have no idea about tomorrow.

No idea about what you want or don't want.

No idea about anything but just live, stay present.

Keep your mind where your body is and life is happening for you.

It is amazing.

It's really mine.

But you gotta let all other ideas go.

I'm almost there.

I'm sorry?

I'm almost there.

Almost there?

Yeah, I do.

Like, I don't think about tomorrow.

I just, I know I have work and I do it.

And the weekend comes.

I don't do anything.

I just stay home and it's not a big deal.

I like it.

I don't like care to go out anymore and only go to the store.

You will get to the point that you would love being alone.

And then if you're out with people, you have fun with that too.

But you won't cry at the end of the night because now you have to go home by yourself.

Or you have to go home to that me wife.

Or blah, blah, blah, blah.

You're gonna love being by yourself.

You're gonna love it.

It's pretty fun.

So stay with it.

Well, I don't think you just.

All right.

Yes, Joe.

Joe had his hand like this.

Yesterday I was at the gym.

And I was just playing.

I didn't be a friend of mine.

A friend of mine.

We were playing around.

And so.

This is one black guy at the gym.

He was a mess.

And so he always jump, you know, tease us about superstar.

And then so yesterday we saw him at the gym.

And I did this.

And some guys saw me doing that.

He went, oh, he's like, what are you doing on that hatred?

I'm like, what hatred?

That's racist.

I'm like, what?

I'm just saying, he got all men about nothing.

And I love the Jews.

But he was mad.

What a mess, huh?

Joe just reminded me of that.

Yes.

I don't really have a question or anything.

I just wanted to say, tell about my week.

OK.

And I don't know how to really word it.

But.

So are you all being doormats?

Let me see the doormats.

Oh, I can't wait to hear the doormats.

Okay.

Yes.

Yeah.

So being a doormat is not that as easy as I would have thought.

But I've been, I've been doing it.

And it's, it's kind of amazing how much mess has happened

since being a doormat.

And I haven't had to do anything to bring it on.

It just finds me.

It's like.

Say to find you in your head and inside of other people to attack you.

Definitely.

Yeah.

And they're both happening.

I've seen people who seemingly never had an issue with before,

all of a sudden there's some sort of work issue.

Right.

Like they're out of their lane in my lane trying to make things

that I'm supposed to make work work.

And so you have to deal with people.

But I've been, I've been noticing the more I.

They quiet and watch them do whatever they're doing.

The more they drive themselves right into the wall.

They can't help it.

Yeah.

And, but I also notice about me.

I'm like on one hand on the thoughts are amazingly strong.

And the feelings, the feelings that come with those thoughts are

intense in the sense that they can make you,

they can almost make you overreact in a split second.

I kind of think of it like this.

Part of the reason why we're not allowed to yell fire in a room like this.

It's like illegal to do that because people panic.

And those thoughts can make you do just that.

Those thoughts can make you do that dumb thing or say the wrong thing

or act the wrong way in the wrong time.

And even if that other person was the one that's really wrong,

you just displayed all of it and you're the one that looks wrong.

And the other person doesn't even get looked at hardly.

That's right.

But the thoughts, my mind and the thoughts are totally intense.

And I notice that I'm like totally, when I am aware of it,

I'm aware of it, but I'm also unaware of it in the same,

seemingly the same second.

So I find myself, I was sitting there chatting with somebody the other day

and he's talking about how frustrated he is with my work and all that.

And I'm sitting there just as calmly as I could sit.

And I'm literally inside, I'm like a boiling cauldron.

And I could barely sit there, but I'm doing it.

So you felt the anger from them telling me they were not happy with your work?

Yeah. And this person is not even my boss, nothing.

They mean nothing, really.

So why were you angry there?

I don't know that I was angry, but I was like wanting to say something back.

If I think about it, I wasn't angry because I was able to just kind of see

where they were coming from.

And I remember the thoughts telling me, you don't know how to fight.

And so once I realized that was a lot, I kind of calmed,

I kind of brought myself to now again.

And then I was able to ask a certain question, he couldn't even answer the questions.

Like he cues me of something, so I said, OK, blah, blah, blah, blah.

What do you mean by this?

What do you mean by that?

You couldn't even answer the questions.

And then wouldn't answer the questions.

And so it's like the thoughts, so like I'm in my thoughts, and I become aware of it.

And then I'm in my thoughts.

And it seems to happen just so fast, it's the strangest thing.

I'm like in this whole conversation that lasted a minute or two,

in and out of my thoughts, probably, I don't know how many times,

but in, out, in, out, in, out.

It's...

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

Take the pain.

Yeah.

And when I do, that's when they just, they can't handle it.

It's so interesting to kind of see it, like for real see it,

like being aware enough to see it.

That's why I quite said, forgive them.

They know not what they do.

Because it's those thoughts that possess amazing.

I had a family member called me, she had my phone number,

because she had a family member.

And so yesterday morning, my phone ringing, ringing, ringing, ringing,

and we were like, I was sleep.

It ringing, ringing, so I asked her, and she was like,

I'm going out of my mind.

I was like, why?

What's wrong with you?

I'm like, what time is it?

It was like four or five in the morning there.

And she was like, I'm going out of my mind.

I'm like, why?

Because when I woke up, the devil was already talking to me.

And I can't help it.

I don't know what to do.

And so I said to her, come down and take the pain.

Let the devil talk and be aware of him talking.

Get up and go about your day.

And at the end of the day, she learned so much from that.

Because she didn't know she should not be fighting with the thoughts.

But be aware, you can't do anything about the thoughts.

When you fight with the thoughts inside of your head,

when inside of other people head about anything,

it's just two devil's fighting.

And that's what the devil wants you to do, fight.

God said, lay your weapon down.

And I'll fight you about it for you.

Meaning that you fight the demons inside of you

and inside of other people.

No one will be able to touch you.

It just possesses.

That's all it is.

It is pure wickedness.

It wants your soul.

And it's real, real free that you may find God.

The devil loved for you to praise God

and lift up over hands and swear about

and read the Bible and quote,

he is so happy with him with you who you're doing that.

He is his little demons like having a party.

When you're praying to Mother Mary, Mary pray for me up there.

Who thank Mary in the seed for them in heaven?

They're people who thank that.

They thank Mama Mary as his inner seeding.

You know, you gotta be crazy, right?

Who cry?

And think that tears are real.

You know what I've done that?

You shared in tears and you thought they were real.

Yeah.

Three honest people only.

Why did you think your tears were real when you were crying?

It's when I was young.

I was like 14 and, you know, friends die and stuff like that.

What?

My friend died.

Oh, okay.

It was like a really big deal and I was speaking at a funeral.

And I remember as I was giving the speech,

I started like tearing up and crying.

And I thought it was real at the time,

but I could see it.

So I saw a nonsense.

Okay.

What do you think your tears, who hand here?

Here.

Will you cry?

What do you think your tears are real?

Well, because I can feel them, taste them,

and I don't know, it creates a whole physical response.

Right.

But I know now that the crying is BS,

but I still find myself, I used to cry all the time,

like, over everything and anything, just because I could.

Women love the cry.

Oh, I love to cry.

But now I don't find myself crying.

They go through the corner with your child, they cry.

Yeah.

They know they go to them and they lie.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

When I learned that, I was like, oh my gosh.

Well, anyway.

Now, every once in a while, I have this very deep sadness

over not being able to express this apologizing

to my mother in person.

Because I see her as such a fragile,

she was so lost herself,

and I would love to be able to have that conversation.

So sometimes that makes me so sad that I will sob over it.

But then I stop, you know.

Right.

But yeah, tears to me filled, it's like a,

I feel like they're very real.

I think they're there for a reason.

They are.

It's like a cleansing process.

They are there for a reason.

Yeah.

They are there to deceive you.

They are there to keep your ego alive.

Because a crying person is only crying for themselves.

It has nothing to do with the dead daddy or the dead mama

or the dead or the loss of a husband or wife

or a friend or anything.

It's about their own ego.

Yeah, and I can see that now too,

because it's my sadness,

because I can't do what I want to do.

Right.

Yeah.

It's all lies and it's evil.

So a cry,

and I'm sorry, me and me, we're going to get to you in a minute.

But later, that adventure crying.

Yeah, you know what?

I hear her when I listen.

And I always feel bad too, because I'm like,

I can totally relate.

So you've learned it now that it's not real?

Yes.

Absolutely.

There's no reason to cry.

There's no reason to cry at all.

But we'll get to that in a minute.

And about your mother,

and you feel really bad that you can't,

and who's feeling bad about that?

Whoever I think I am.

Who do you think you are?

Well, I know I'm nobody.

I mean, I know that it's an ego that feels that way.

I don't know who I am, honestly.

Right.

I'm still in that process of,

I don't know who I am.

Okay.

And I'm not attached to any,

I used to be very attached to oldest.

I'm a nurse, I'm that.

But not anymore.

Okay.

We'll stay with it.

Yeah.

It will be made clear.

Okay.

Just stay with it.

Just let the light clear your mind of the darkness.

Stay with it.

Yes, ma'am.

The lady behind.

You thought your cry was real?

Yeah.

Just like the lady here,

I was always crying about things.

And just like you said,

it was always because everything that would happen,

I would make it about me.

And it was always about me.

Like I had less than somebody else,

or I should have had more.

Yeah.

And now that I leave a space when the first dot comes,

it's easier not to just go with the tears,

because I didn't leave that space.

Before.

And I was just crying as soon as the feeling came,

as soon as the thought came,

and now when the feeling comes,

I'm able to question it,

and to just look at it,

and to realize that it's not real,

it's not me,

and that everybody goes through this,

it's easier to,

I don't cry as often anymore,

and it's amazing,

because I used to cry in a split second,

just like you said.

Yeah.

I noticed that the devil wanted to make you cry sometimes,

because he don't want to leave,

so he makes you feel sad.

Oh, whatever he's right.

Yeah.

But don't cry.

Yeah.

It was not real.

Definitely.

I used to, I told this story before,

I had to date a lot.

I was a slap maker,

everywhere.

And every time I broke up with a girl,

I could not break up with her,

unless I had another girl waiting in the wing.

I was a cheater.

But I didn't care.

I needed a woman to make me feel good.

And so,

but whenever I broke up with one,

if I didn't have one already,

I would literally get in my car

on a Saturday afternoon or Sunday afternoon,

and drive all the way up the dining coast

from LA to Santa Barbara.

It's a beautiful drive.

Anybody have done that?

Next time you get sad,

drive that coast,

and put on sitting by the dock of the bay,

oh Lord,

and I would cry all the way up there,

and all the way back.

And I thought I would cry it over the woman,

but I really cried over being with her.

It was all about me.

Because as soon as I got a new one,

I forgot about the old one.

And so, it was all about me.

All crying is evil.

It's all about you.

Nothing to do with anyone ever.

Yeah.

Evils made a home in us,

and we just got to see it,

so we could overcome it.

Every human being is possessed.

That's why God said,

if we give them,

they know not what they do.

They're not working on themselves.

They can't see it, not them.

Yeah.

Amazing.

No.

Yes, me, man.

About the crying,

like you said,

I used to cry quite a bit,

and after that mess of a show,

or show of a mess that I came in here with last time,

I think I took this a lot more seriously,

and I started doing the silent prayer a lot more,

and just a lot more.

And what's interesting is this week,

I had a water bottle,

and I was driving and trying to open it.

And it was one of those like metal tops

that was like perforated,

but it was really sharp.

So I went to open it,

and it sliced my finger like smooth open.

Like it didn't stop bleeding for like 10 minutes straight,

just blushing, like gushing blood.

And this was a time when I should be crying.

And I told,

I saw the injury,

and I was like,

I should, this is going to hurt.

This is going to hurt really, really bad,

because look at all the blood,

and I should be crying.

And I told myself like,

wait, what if I didn't cry?

What if I, or, I didn't say this in real time,

but like I was thinking to myself,

my body is hurting,

but I'm not my body.

And so what's interesting is,

since that cut, right,

immediately when I thought that,

once did I not cry.

And secondly, it never really hurt.

Even when I ran water over it in the shower,

I told myself,

oh, it's going to hurt.

And I'm like,

before I even get a shower,

I'm like, oh, it's going to hurt so bad.

And then I said,

but you're not your body.

Like so, what's interesting is the injury,

the cut on my finger,

and it went deep.

It never, I didn't really hurt,

because I was able for the first time ever to see

that I am not my body.

Yeah.

And also with the gentleman that was saying,

like, if he was writing a song,

and what's the difference between writing a song

and painting a picture,

because you need those to write the song,

I think the difference is that in practical thoughts,

you stay in the present,

and any of those other thoughts,

they try to take you from the past or into the future.

Like writing the song is just,

hey, I need words to write a song,

but when you let the thoughts take you away

and paint that picture,

now you're determining what the tone or the pitch is

when you sing it, who's going to be in the room,

what's the temperature in the room when you sing the song?

Like all those other details,

that's what I was describing when I talked about the pictures

that I've been painting.

It's always like taking me to the past or the future.

Absolutely.

God gave you the ability to make music.

He wanted to make beautiful music.

The gift to make music come from God.

Is this an awful fall asleep?

We use music for the wrong reason.

We use it to escape and to feel pitiful and all that,

rather than enjoying it,

but not to use it.

So you became a...

Do you want to tell me about it?

What's that life for you?

It's pretty relaxing, I guess you could say.

Meaning what?

I don't know, life becomes a lot more straightforward.

Absolutely.

People pounce on you and you're not bothered about it anymore.

You don't like take it,

but you just don't let things ignite a fire inside you.

What do you mean you don't take it?

It's not that you're necessarily being cowardly per se.

You're just not engaging in unnecessary stuff.

It's a coward that want to fight.

It's the one of love that don't want to fight.

As long as it's not physical,

there's never a reason to fight.

Amazing.

Do you want to deal with the people who are questioning for the week?

Do you know what it is?

Can you repeat it?

I know generally I just don't know the details.

Jesus said,

you must sell Him as your Lord and Savior to be born again.

Yes.

Why do you say yes?

I mean, there's the famous verse about,

I think it's John 3, 16,

says that whoever believes in Him shall be saved,

shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Okay.

But when did Jesus say it?

That was Jesus speaking.

No, that was John.

No, it was in John, but Jesus was speaking.

He was speaking in John?

Like in the chapter.

Sorry, in the book of John.

So it was written or something?

Yeah, it's written in that book,

but Jesus is saying that.

Repeat what he said.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son

so that whoever believes in Him shall be saved.

Oh no, that's not yet.

The question is,

did Jesus say you must accept Him

in order to be born again?

You must accept Him as your Lord and Savior

in order to be born again.

Did Jesus say,

not a Christian have you come down to the front of the church?

Mm-hmm.

And they ask you,

do you believe that Jesus was born?

Right?

Look how they do it now.

Do you believe that Jesus was born and died for you

and your Lord and Savior

and rose again and all that?

And you say yes, right?

Mm-hmm.

You ever done that?

I think probably.

Yeah.

When did Jesus ever say you must accept Him

as your Lord and Savior to be born again?

When you say born again,

what does that mean?

Are you talking about salvation or what?

Did Jesus say you must accept Him

as your Lord and Savior to be born again?

Mm-hmm.

I'm not sure a word for word,

but that may be like a word concept fallacy.

What's the point?

Meaning like,

if he may have not said the word exact

or said the term exactly born again,

but he may have said,

like, you know,

if you believe in me,

you'll be saved,

which in turn sort of means similar things.

Okay.

What is it?

Either whatever refer to the biblical question right here.

Did Jesus say you must accept Him

as your Lord and Savior

in order to be born again?

So from what I'm learning now,

I say no.

Then why do you say no?

Because...

Yeah.

You ought to look all,

A.I. have found it.

I want to find where Jesus said,

and I'm not saying he didn't say it at this point.

I'm just asking.

Where Jesus said,

you must accept Him as your Lord and Savior

to be born again.

Go ahead.

Because my Bible thumb being family keeps telling me that

if I don't then I'm going straight to hell.

So I don't believe Jesus would say that,

because I don't think Jesus was into titles.

He didn't want people to worship Him.

So I don't think He would ever say something like that.

And if He did,

then He would go tell...

He would say,

go tell everyone.

But He said,

don't say anything to anyone, right?

I mean, I just started reading the Bible.

I'm learning.

Are you out of Bivothumper?

Me?

At one point,

were you a Bivothumper?

No, no.

I never even went to church, Josie.

Oh, this is like my first church.

What a mess.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

Yeah, no.

I just started reading the Bible.

Okay.

Amazing.

Are you all learning the white behind?

Did Jesus say,

you must accept Him as your Lord and Savior

to be born again?

I don't know the answer to that.

Oh, you don't?

No.

Okay.

How about a young lady right here?

I don't think He said that.

And why?

Why don't they?

He said it.

Well, I don't feel that He would say that.

But I know all these Christian churches try to...

I know a lot of these Christian churches will have...

We've been to a Christian church where they've said, like,

come forward and, you know,

if you want to be saved or you want to be baptized,

we had went to this church before.

And these people called me on stage

and we're speaking in tongues.

And the next thing I know,

I'm like crying and I'm on the floor

and what they said, like,

I don't even know what they were saying.

And this image of what I think Jesus like flashed in my mind.

And then the next thing I know I'm on the floor

and I'm crying and crying and crying.

I used to think that was like some spiritual thing.

I don't know why they pointed me out to come.

Because you need to be saved.

Yeah, maybe.

But I don't know.

I don't know that I think about it.

It's a little scary.

Yeah.

It's a little scary.

Like, you know, that picture of Jesus in my mind

that I'll...

It'll never leave my mind.

It's not who I know.

You know, the picture that we see of Jesus

or whoever it may be.

It wasn't the same that flashed in my mind.

But no, I don't think Jesus would say that.

It doesn't even make sense that he would say that.

And I feel like...

This is just a little off topic.

But I used to see people that I know are family members

be rural, you know, like Jesus freaks.

And it didn't even make sense.

It doesn't...

It seems like it's fake.

Like, it's a facade.

How...

I don't know.

It just felt like it was fake.

And at one point, I used to be a little...

I guess you could say envious of how devoted they were.

But the more I got to thinking about it,

they'd never dropped their anger.

They'd never...

They still would gossip amongst themselves and with family.

And so I think of them now.

And I'm like, well, they're kind of like a little coat

within themselves, you know, thinking that they're better than others

when in reality we're all the same.

We're all...

You know, we're all...

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Amazing.

Thank you.

Yesterday, and I think I saw it.

You have to see your hand.

I looked it up on the head.

Okay.

Yes.

It was John 3.

Jesus say, you must accept him as your Lord and Savior

to be born again.

I don't think he did that.

Not where I've...

Anywhere I've found, but...

I wanted to be born.

If I wanted to be born again.

I did a little Googling.

I'm a little old school.

Right.

Okay.

I was going to say that was John 3.16 brought up.

You know, I read that one a little bit different.

What did he say?

He said...

Because it says something like,

not everyone who says to me,

Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven.

But only the one who does the will of my father.

Oh.

You know what you refer to, too?

I've now referred to the very famous John 3.16.

Oh, okay.

Well, no, that's all right.

We'll come back to you with that.

I thought the one that was brought up

was not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord.

And that one, I read a little different,

because I've heard this one brought up

in response to this biblical question.

I feel like in that one he's saying,

not everyone who just says,

I'm a Christian who says,

I believe, in Jesus,

who says Jesus is Lord will be saved.

So it's not just words, sir.

Well, he would definitely refer to the people

who had not returned to love.

They just had ideas about him.

They read about him.

They say, Lord, Lord,

but their hearts are wicked.

And so as those people,

he say, get away.

Because they don't have a pure heart.

Amazing.

So did he ever say,

you must be born again?

I mean, it's up to me.

And you're Lord to save you.

I don't think he did in that one.

And the one I mentioned,

especially is telling you,

it's not words.

It's not just confessing with your mouth.

All right.

Amazing.

Yes, me, me.

You, me, you are a bava thumpe at one time, right?

Oh, yes.

I mean, there's not too many people

that share my skin color.

That isn't in this country.

I know.

All blacks are bava thumpe.

We are all trying to get to heaven.

Yeah.

We care about what's happening on earth,

but we are all set for heaven.

And so before you just read AI,

did Jesus ever say

that you must have stopped,

you know, as your Lord has saved you

to be born again?

No.

And I knew that.

I knew that after coming here

and really like,

my mind being blown

with some of the discussions that we've had.

And it really just kind of shattered all of those lies.

When it comes to that,

you know, you remember me telling the story

of what I was expecting when I got here.

I was looking for the choir,

the pulpit.

I was looking for the altar call telling me

that I just have to, you know,

come down and all that stuff.

So I was looking for it.

And I found the truth.

And what was much different

than what I was expecting.

And did you think about

when you were bava thumper?

Yeah.

Did you ever read anywhere

where Jesus said,

you must have stopped me

as your Lord has saved you?

No.

To be born again.

No, but I had the same experience

as this woman here in the middle

that I would look at people

that were so committed to their walk with Christ

and that they were so like saving souls for the Lord

that I was kind of envious

that I couldn't be that way.

And what I realized is that

it was like this kind of like,

like this shield around them

that, you know, because they have,

you know, going out there

and saving souls for the Lord,

that they could never be questioned about anything.

They didn't really, you know,

really like to be questioned.

Their faith was their faith.

So I asked the question exactly how you said it.

When did Jesus say you must accept him

as my Lord and Savior to be born again?

And I even put saved in parentheses.

And it says,

if you look at the actual text of the Bible,

he never shows those exact words.

He points to his conversation with Nicodemus

where he says,

truly, truly, I say unto you,

unless one is born again,

he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Unless one is born of water and the spirit,

he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

So that's when he refers to it.

And then he also says,

this is what we remember.

This is what you're talking about.

And I think every black church

that ever is in America.

But if you confess with your mouth

that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart

that God raised him from the dead,

you will be saved.

So I think that's one of the times

that we refer to that him referring to,

you know, him believing in him as Lord and Savior.

But all of that to say.

There is no where that Jesus said that.

It is, A.I. says it itself.

The modern phrase except Jesus

as your Lord and Savior

is a theological summary that developed later.

But it's not direct,

it's not a direct quote from Jesus.

Amazing.

What did you say at first about that from John?

Oh, I said that might be like a word concept fallacy

because like if I say, you know,

something specific like,

oh, I want to get that,

I want to get a burger for lunch.

And, you know, someone says,

oh, you didn't say you wanted to,

you know, go out for lunch.

Like, I didn't say those exact words.

You know, I was just trying to get across

that like, Jesus can try to get a point across

without exactly maybe saying those words.

Oh.

And there have also been like translations

so you could probably find a way

if you want to translate like the coin A Greek

over to maybe those exact words

if you really wanted to.

So far I haven't found,

this whole week I've had so many people,

family member to everyone,

but no one has ever pointed

to where Jesus said that.

Those words exactly that way.

And yet so many people have gone

and accepted Jesus Lord of Savior

and it has never worked for them.

They're still lowland,

they're still afraid,

they still have anger,

they still have fear.

And that's because Jesus never said it.

He never said that

you must accept me as your Lord of Savior

in order to be born again.

And yet it's been taught everywhere.

And it's a sad way to live.

And that's why I really want to encourage people to

you got to start looking for yourself.

You got to, you know,

have to, but if you want to be free,

you got to forget all that you've been taught.

Really?

And let this fear of truth teach you

because you've been truly lied to you.

You've been lied to.

We've been taught to suffer.

We have never been taught to be free.

They are pretending and we've been taught about freedom.

But we have never been taught to be free.

We've only been taught to be enslaved.

And it's been passed on from generation to generation to generation.

East family member, East family,

passing on to the next children and the next children.

What a sad way to live when we can all be free.

And we can pass if we were perfect.

You know, Christ said, be perfect.

How many people you hear say, be perfect?

You hear people say, no, I'm not perfect.

They'll say that right away.

Have you forgiven your mother?

No, I'm not perfect.

Have you gotten over anger?

They've quickly said they are not perfect.

But Christ said, be perfect.

He told all he would be to be perfect.

But you don't hear anyone saying that they are perfect.

When, in reality, they are perfect.

They don't know it.

We're all perfect.

And the reason we're perfect is because we are created

in the image of God.

That may says, who just agree with that?

Nobody just agree?

Why don't you just agree?

You just agree?

Thank you.

Don't be afraid.

It's a fellowship.

It's not a contest.

We're here to edify one another and talk.

But why do you disagree?

So it's not that I'm disagreeing.

But doesn't the perfection only come up to being born again?

Who said that?

No, I'm just saying.

Because I've heard that too from the Christian.

The religious people.

No.

The profession has happened in a moment you were born.

And it always that way.

You're always perfect.

The moment you were born,

it's just that when you're being made angry,

you go away from it.

You lead professions and go into the darkness.

But that's why we come right back to the light.

You're back to normal.

You're back perfect again.

Yes.

Let me sense.

Yeah, it does.

Just think about this.

We are the mind of God.

God thought about us and we came.

We are His mind.

God's mind is perfect.

And that's why if you have a practice stand present,

being aware of what you are,

what you're doing at all times,

you're going to see that you and everything in the earth

is the same.

You're the same.

God thought of us and we came about.

That's why Christ said that we are His brothers and sisters.

Because we are the mind of God.

We are created in the image of God.

But you forgot that image because you've been lied to.

You've been made to be angry.

You've been made to believe a lie.

And you don't know you're the mind of God.

And in Him all things are perfect.

As it is in us,

but we forgot we've been lied to.

And I remember at one time,

I used to be afraid to say I'm a son of God.

How much am a son of God?

That doesn't make sense.

But I'm really a son of God.

And you are too.

You are His daughter.

You are His son.

And so when Christ said,

when Christ said,

talked about being born again,

Christ never said,

do you believe in Jesus?

You must, whatever they said.

I'm tired of reading it.

Christ said,

even to Nicodemus,

he said,

keep my commandment.

His requirement,

if you love me,

you'll keep my commandment.

You will love your neighbor.

You will love your enemy as yourself.

That's why,

when you go and you forgive your mothers and your fathers,

you come back to a profession.

You start to wake up because your heart is of love now,

which is of God.

God is love.

And I've only said that we do it.

We play God because our hearts are wicked.

And so we play God.

We judge others.

We judge ourselves.

We think we know what we want.

But when your heart is of love,

you no longer judge.

You just live, right?

And that's why you must forgive.

Christ said,

follow me by

loving me, loving God,

with all your heart,

solely my,

along with no one else or nothing else,

and to love your enemy.

Don't judge.

Those are the requirements for salvation.

You can claim it,

name it,

and enter the cows going on.

But if your heart is still has any anger at all,

you are of your father to devil.

You're not going to have peace.

You've got to have love.

We were created to love one another,

not to hate one another.

But because we've been made to hate,

we hate as little children,

we become haters,

as little lovers.

And Christ's message was about that.

He came here to tell us

that we are free,

and that we are possessed

by the demon of Satan.

That's why whenever the disciples

got off course with him,

he was telling him,

give it to me, Satan.

You are of your father to devil right now.

I remember there was somewhere in the Bible where

I think it was John.

I could be wrong.

John was a mess.

John was like,

went over to Jesus,

and he said something light.

Jesus, when you go to heaven,

and you're sitting at the right hand of your father,

when I come to heaven,

when I get to heaven,

can I sit at your right hand?

And you're like,

get away from him.

He rebuked him,

because he knew he was other devil.

That was a devil speaking to him.

The disciples lost it at times.

They were jealous of each other.

Especially if there would be

something that would be jealous

of the ones that seem to be close to God.

There was this guy called

down Thomas, right, James?

And Jesus told him a secret?

I don't know.

Down Thomas,

there were one day in Jesus,

you know that down Thomas,

he could believe that he tested the man.

Right?

Anybody know about down Thomas?

He could believe that.

He could believe that he rose

until he touched his thing in the hand.

But anyway,

Jesus had a,

one of them owed to the side

when they had told him a secret.

And he told him not to tell anyone.

And so the disciples said,

I don't know if Jesus told him

not to tell him,

but he didn't tell anyone.

And they were asking him,

well, what did Jesus tell you?

He wouldn't tell them that they got mad.

Because they thought he was closer to Jesus.

But that's human nature.

That's the devil in you.

The devil is always

lying to you about everything,

about you and every human being on the planet.

And so that's why Christ said,

if you want to be saved,

keep my commandment.

Pick up your ego and follow me

so that the ego can die.

And to love your neighbor

as yourself.

And not a 9.9% of people

hate their neighbors.

They don't love them at all.

Yes, ma'am.

They say they love you.

Husband and wife say,

they love one another

until they get mad.

They love you just

long, you're happy

and you're feeling good, right?

The moment you disagree

or get mad,

it changes,

just like that.

Because we would never love.

Love don't change.

Because love

is understanding.

You understand it.

It's not that person

that's saying that

or acting that way.

It's something that's

driving them.

And because you become one

you and the father

are one,

you know that this person

is being interviewed by a demon.

So you're not going to judge them

because you know

it's not them.

They're walked away from the light

and they're into darkness.

And you won't judge them.

No matter what.

Even if people that chase an ice,

they are doing it

because they're into darkness.

They cannot see.

If they could see,

they would not do that.

But yes, ma'am.

What does it mean when it says

no one can come?

No one can come

to the father except through me.

When you're able to see,

let me use this as a example.

You know sometimes you are

here to true

and it just makes sense.

Without words.

It makes sense.

You have had that?

Yes.

So Christ came with a message

like that.

He spoke this message

and we used to see it.

The message that was given to them

by the father

to bring to us

to tell that he would be

you're free.

All of your sins have been wiped away.

There's no reason to worry.

You possess,

but it's not you.

When you hear that,

it makes sense.

You're going,

you're hearing the words

from the Son,

but you're going to the father

because you see the truth.

And that's what he meant by that.

Understood.

But mostly we hear that forgiveness word.

They reject it.

It doesn't make sense.

People tell me all the time.

Anger is my power.

I gotta be angry, right?

Anger is pure evil,

but they've been taught.

So when the message comes to forgive,

they don't believe

because they think they need the anger.

They think it's real.

But for that man or that woman

that want to overcome evil,

they're here to act.

And they don't think,

wow, that's so true.

I've been mad on my life

and got nowhere.

And they'll change just like that.

It's because they can see it

without words.

Amazing.

Any question about that?

No.

Does that help or make sense at all?

Yeah.

It's kind of what I was thinking,

but I just want to clarification.

Yeah.

Amazing.

Yes.

That's all I had.

Yes, man.

And then here.

Way over the corner.

Yes.

Is it not a distinction,

like a major distinction

between like Jewish

and Christian religion

about believing in Jesus Christ?

Like they, he, he, like,

and there's a difference between

the Jewish belief about Christ

and...

Well, like, just don't believe

Jesus is the Son of God.

They don't believe,

they even fulfill the prophecy.

Most religion people don't believe

in Christ.

They don't believe in God.

So you've got to find out

in all religion.

The Christians believe

that Jesus is God.

You're like, did you?

So believe that Jesus is God.

You don't believe in Jesus.

Because Jesus made it clear

that he was the Son.

Jesus even wrote a donkey into town

because he didn't want

the people wishing for him.

He knew that if they wish

of him, that they would never know God.

Because they have made him

into a God.

And he worked hard

to stay away from people like that

and make it clear.

And so the Jews

that don't believe in God,

they're just wishing

their rabbis

and others who have told them,

I mean, that don't believe in Jesus.

They're just wishing

their rabbis who told them

something else.

And they believe

into a lie

and it hard not to believe,

it's hard to believe the truth.

Unless you really,

really want the truth.

So it's no different.

They just been lied to as well.

Okay.

Because I do think

the sentiment, like,

give your life to Christ.

Like, they mean well.

Just in past churches,

it just has not,

I have not been able to receive it

because of the theatrics.

When I see people

in the front, like,

screaming and crying.

And it's just, you know,

it just feels,

it doesn't feel right,

but I feel like the sentiment

is there, like,

he did die far since.

He did show us a way out.

So that's,

that's why I'm a little confused.

Because I do feel like

the saying is correct.

It's just not.

You believe that?

What's saying is correct.

The biblical question?

Like, did Jesus say that?

I feel like him just saying,

I'm the son of God,

not saying that.

Like, him coming and fulfilling the prophecy.

That's what I feel like they're saying,

like, give your life to Jesus.

Like, just to let go,

live like Jesus.

I just feel like it's not the right messenger

and it's not received

because there's so much theatrics.

And like,

so much emotion involved.

You mean the Christians are the Jews?

The Christians.

Like, Christians Church,

I have, like,

gone up to the front,

but it's always been

kind of making fun of them a little bit.

It's all ego drama.

But don't make fun of them.

They can't see them.

It was in the past,

but yeah.

I was like, this is probably not good

to be making fun people.

They're trying to find themselves.

Right, they really,

they,

the people who listen to the preachers,

they want it.

That's why they go to church.

They want help.

But the Christians,

the Christians are no different

than the rabbis,

Jewish rabbis.

They are there for themselves.

That's why,

Christ even said,

don't have a teacher

and what they do,

they teach you.

They don't point you back

to the teacher within.

You said, let no man teach you.

But if,

Christ said,

the kingdom of heaven is within.

Don't look over there.

Don't look over there.

Don't look over there.

And people look at the book

for the kingdom.

They're looking at this place

of that place.

When it's already in them,

it's already there.

But they never look

on the inside,

so they never find the kingdom.

We already have the kingdom.

It's already in us.

The devil and his workers

don't want you to know that.

Everything is done.

Christ said,

it's finished.

It's done.

And there's only one devil

that you must do,

and that's the illusion death

of who you think you are.

That's the death.

That's the only death

that Christ died from.

He died from the ego death.

All these phrase ideas

so that we can die from it.

And when he did it,

he defeated the devil.

And the devil really

don't have an authority

over you at all

unless you believe him.

And he'll make you act out.

He'll make you do it.

But if you don't believe him,

you won't act out when he says.

He has no power

because he's been defeated.

Okay.

So, it seems like maybe

Jesus is being put on a pedestal

where he was humble himself

and he said,

everyone can be like me,

everyone can...

So, we know.

Because it does kind of seem

to be that Jesus

is put on a pedestal.

Like, people put him on a pedestal,

like he's trying to...

He would always do that

because human nature is evil

and it's always looking for out of leader.

And so, anyone that sounds smart,

he's going to put him on a pedestal,

just like that.

And then when the person

will live up to their idea,

then they judge the leader

and they go find another leader.

That's his human nature.

That's the devil.

And Jesus didn't want that at all.

Jesus said the same thing

I'm doing,

the healing and stuff like that.

Greater worse than I'm doing it.

You should do it.

Why would God tell somebody

you go do greater worse than I am?

If you think you're God.

What a mess, huh?

Yeah, that...

Because I have seen that a lot,

like you've talked about it before,

people think Jesus is God,

or he said he's the Son of God.

So, that's a great distinction.

And so, you ask them,

okay, where does Jesus say he's God?

And they'll read the Bible

and make up stuff in it.

What it means is,

this is what it means.

Why are you reading something else into it?

That's what the devil does.

He reads into it.

But because you don't understand

the language of the devil,

you think it's your language.

You think it's true.

Jesus was never God.

He was just Son.

In the beginning, that was the Word.