ACT - "Confident & Bad" (Tuesday 9-8-26)

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1:0069. Floor. Penthouse. Corporate offices. Studio. Oh, yeah. It's a corporate time with Tom and Dan. Tonight on a corporate time with Tom and Dan. Tom and Dan and Ross McCoy welcome Brendan O'Connor from the Orlando Shine. And Mr. Mix from Two Life Crews on the program. And here they are. The he don't matter, just don't bite it already, old Tom and Dan. Welcome to Corporate time with Tom and Dan. I'm Tom and Dan. Dan, we're live on Twitch, we're live on YouTube. Come on over and we'd appreciate it if you give us a like or a subscribe or hit whatever new button they have. There was a hype button at one point. They're always changing things on social media.

2:01And you know, if you listen to this show a lot, you know it. I love it when they change things. So just head on over to YouTube and just give us a hello. Give us a click, give us a button, give us a smush. Give us a good smush from the Orlando talk show comedian Ross McCoy's here. Thank you. Tom from the Orlando Shine, Brendan O'Connor's here. I like, give it a smush. Give it a smush. Smush who's smushing you in the morning? Yeah, I'm smushing you. So try to smush my wife this morning. Oh, I'm not. She does not like morning smushin. Because she wants to press your teeth. No, she's had these early meetings. These eight thirty meetings. No, I like it dirty. I like dirty teeth on it. Put some dirty teeth on it. But no, she's been having early meetings and she gets up. She does, she's all business. When she's off, it's dressed, but business. Get the business. You're a whole way. Amazing. Amazing as a cook-or-home breakfast. She's making her own lunch. Yeah, she's a young adult. She is. She is a powerful, powerful woman. I am outmatched in that house.

3:02That's great. I know. I'm not disagreeing. You can just focus on yourself. Which I make a egg in a hole. I make an old man breakfast every morning. I cut the hole out of a piece of wonder bread. With scissors? No, I have a shot glass I use. Okay. Then I scoop one little scoop of turkey sausage in the center of it. Then I crack an egg in the center of it. I fry it on that side for five minutes. Then I flip it over and I fry it for two minutes. And then I put hot sauce on it and I eat alone like an old man. It's about that circle of shot glass of bread. Are you frying that in the pan or are you casting it in the pan? What happens to that? I throw it to dance me the dog. What? You came on the right day because I made my dog into M&M's. There's his face on some M&M's. So those are for you, my friend, because I know you like the snacks. You're going to have dance me. Why do you like a snack? Yeah, you're going to have some dance me M&M's. You know whether you eat it or not. Fry it up in the pan a little bit because that little circle of toast is just amazing. Okay, okay. I know you know I like your cooking. So I will take you up a little. Little children paint these on each M&M's. No, there's a machine at Disney Springs that will print any photo within reason on the M&M's.

4:06What? And I've got my dog's picture on the M&M's. You know, you're not supposed to eat them. The ASMR. I'm sure those are dangerous dog in the M&M's. They're ruined on the M&M's. By the way, a whole bunch of them. We want a big old stack of them. I think you did. China ruined... No, here we go. Why did you do the reason for the food? You know what China ruined? My marriage. Like the ruin. There was a China ruined my marriage. There was a time... A short story by Tom Bingham. That like having some sort of like your dog or your kids printed on M&M's was impressive. And there was like, you're like, well... That's an American made products, sir. That came right out of Disney Springs. 100% impressed by this. You are, but then you can get anything printed on anything nowadays. No, you want Chinese M&M's? Is that what you... No, I'm just saying like, you can like China has... What is your land in this? It's given us the ability to print a logo on anything you want

5:06at any time. And then so did you become not special anymore. Thanks China. You know, but it's like printing the logo on the M&M's and like having a custom anything. So you'd rather be able not to do it so this special. Why are you so happy for a world in which we aren't printing on it? Well, I'm just saying it doesn't like fun. Why do you want to live in the dark time? What's not special are you in anything anymore? Like everything you know, value, no value, no value. I'm just trying to take the value. You see what I'm saying? Like it's not... It's not... Inflation. It's not special. Is that a cool... Like, I think it's cool. I don't know anybody else's put their dog on white and there are also white in it. It's really cute. They're well-defeated. Millions, and it's legible. Yeah, but not around here. You didn't do it. You're too busy bicking your punes. That's what we were talking about. A whole millions of tourists. You know, it's not special. It used to be like, oh wow. Special to me. I worry about what it's printed with. Like, did I just eat a Xerox? It's vegetable dye. It's just vegetable dye. Oh, okay. No different than food coloring.

6:06That's good. But back when it was special, you couldn't get it done. So we wouldn't even be talking about it. Because we're very prohibitively expensive. We're talking about the one guy at the Eminem Factory. What, like, he would... After hours, like, he was the tech and then he would outdo. And then he would make a special plate and then put his, like, family on Eminem. And then everybody in the town would be like, whoa, you got your own, your name printed on Eminem. So you feel the same way about that when you can get your face painted on Oreos? You see that? If you go on the Oreo website, you can get any photo on an Oreo. Like, for birthdays and stuff. Is it like a laser printer? Yeah, they like, they can do like very... You could get Orlando Shine Oreos. Actually, it would work really well. Because your logo's circled if I remember correctly. You should do that. You can get the Golden Oreos too. That's a... We have with TGLE and we have like a... How many letters did you just get this man? This is a business man, right? You already sold the milk sponsorship. I'll tell you when everything special died. Is it? The 3D printer.

7:07When you touched yourself for the first time. Like, it used to... I remember time and Daniel remembers this too. Or if you got your own... Do you remember? That was a good ass. He's a pen of a... One of those. Yeah, the devil back. You know, by the devil back? The... About to find out. There was a time where having your own action figure and your own likeness was the pinnacle of custom. Well, I had to be made by a human. Like a friend of yours. You had to take scopie clay and re-world gel. And a scopie gel. Do you have one of yourself? No, now you can 3D print that stuff still cool. It... No, it really doesn't find anything cool, honestly. You're not gonna win the battle. What do you think is cool? Nothing. That's one thing that you're like, oh, that's cool. He thinks he's cool. Having some sort of plutonium. Like, in like some sort of lead box. Why is that cool? Because that's not something that is not a way. Wait, wait, wait, it changed to... That's a great... It's starting with plutonium, but then it changed to having some sort of lead box. But no, I'm just saying you could... You would have to store it in like a crazy lead box or something.

8:10It's a crazy lead box. Well, I guess you could just lie and say, you're gonna be in a video camera and there or something. I don't know, I didn't need to see it. I won't have to leave it. Yeah, how would you prove it? Can't I? Oh, yeah, so that's cool. Do you have those weird glass collections? Like those old people... Uranium glass. Yeah. Okera, our friend of ours is in the chat room right now. She collects Uranium glass, I believe. What? Yeah. But isn't it radioactive? Well, slightly, but... Just a little bit. Yeah, not enough to... She is a little bit. But you have all your iPhone is radioactive. I mean, if you really get down to it... Sement. Radioactive. Yeah. Only a King Cobra. That's still super impressive to me. If you have a King Cobra. But there's a lot of scumbags that don't King Cobra. Yeah. Yeah, no, but it's still rare and illegal. And then there's like, you know, some danger involved... What about my scooter? 1959, VESPA VBA. I still have the engine in it. Yes, all electric modes. Yes, that's cool. That's all we finally. That's the only cool thing about you. Things that are normal. And like... Yeah, rare because nothing's rare anymore.

9:11I'm just saying I like when things used to be rare, custom shirts... God... What about an airbrush t-shirt? Is that cool? Well, at least it's one off. And you have to know an airbrush guy. Like a brush peep. Yeah, like a big shot up. That skill is rare. So I have to know where a flea market is. Wait. There's a rare though. Yes, we might as a rare. It does peep, do cars? Yeah, he'll do anything. He will? Yeah, do you need something here? I do. Oh, well then... Oh, we got a guy. Airbrush peep. Yeah, 100% of a peep. Brenda on a Pegasus on the side of my new Sion XB that I'm getting. He will do that. They'll do that. You would love to do that. All right, all right. In fact, you can do a whole video series with him. Yes. He's an awesome guy. Big Tom and Dan listener. Okay. He's listened to Real Ready for since the beginning of time. He also sent me a picture of his penis. That was about to happen. One time at... We were doing our hard rock. When Tom and Dan sold out hard rock, we did the hard rock show there with Ross. Ross was there. Ross hosted me to Dan. And he sent me a photo of his penis. Well, I only saw the M&M's at Dan printed it on him. Yeah. Well, I got it by the two.

10:13It's crazy. I got it by the way. Well, peets from a different time were used to be... You bullied me. He's bullied me. It was a funny joke that when you were in public and you were taking a group picture or whatever, you would discreetly pull your penis out. And so it'd be in the picture... In a group photo? Yeah, in a group photo. Are you sure you wouldn't do that thing where you just put your finger out of your face? I looked like that. No, it's one of the missing crying. And one of the missing jokes. Who was that? That's a new game. Private joke. Private joke. Yeah, but that's why the rarity... Or that's the occasional one. The actual penis being in the picture. Because you wouldn't notice it at first. I keep them guessing. You're like, why did Pete sit in this picture? I probably shouldn't have told that. I've just ham and some random listeners at our anniversary. And then he's really writes zoom in, zoom in. And then he's so good. Sure enough, he's got his penis out. And no one knew. And the other people don't know. Like, you could take it and then just drape it out. You have to be well-induced. Yeah, I'm attracted to Pete. I don't even know what he looks like. He's the best. He's been airbrushing stuff for us since...

11:13Yeah, he did. He's a Puerto Rican real man. Yeah, he did shirts for my daughter for dance. He did a ping pong table for us. He can do anything. Okay, I need that connect. Okay, don't eat if you're listening. Guess what? Don't. He might be. But don't. We'll connect those dots. Okay, I'm so against taking a picture of your penis in public. I actually put a disguise on my penis in case it slips out and pops out. I'm wondering what you're wearing today. Yeah, what's the deal? Any trenchcoes or... Standard glasses with a mustache built in on the bottom. I like that. I go with green goblin spider-in-one. If you ever seen that book that has the holes in it, you can put your penis through the whole hole. Somebody bought me that book. Yeah. And I laughed at it because I'm way girthier than that. Oh, yeah. They call me Tudor Candel. Oh, wow. All right, moving on. Yeah. And you're just looking through a window. I'm laughing. This is the... You're like going directly to the... It's like one of those things you used to size one portion of spaghetti. Yeah. Like, oh. Yeah. So, Brendan, what's going on in Orlando? You are... Like, I'm... So, I...

12:14I think I'm sighing over here. Honestly, Orlando Shine is the only... Like, local media I consume. Me too. Oh, wow. Where I don't know anything going on around. When you're sorry. It's bookmarked. When you're sorry. Lowen, smoke up my butt. Especially where Orlando Shine and then just many documentaries on... Oh, yeah. Yeah. And pictures of penis is... Penis Pete. And so, and I saw like... Oh, what's the... What's the number one story right now? Right now. You would say... Well, right now it was the death of Milton McKnight. The wheelchair... Going downtown. Oh, sad. Yeah. He was selling flowers on the side of the road for like 30 years downtown. I actually didn't know anything about him. And John Bustecker was like, Oh my God, Milton died. You need to write about it. And I was like, who's Milton when I saw the picture? I was like, oh, it's that homeless guy. He bought waters for him before. Like, I don't know. Not homeless. A work in man. From a wheelchair. There were multiple fundraisers through the years to buy him new wheelchairs

13:14because he just wore them the hell out because he was just always going places. He lived in Paramore. Wheel back and forth. And we'd go drink at Casey's. Profusely, people would buy him drinks because he was such a fun conversationalist. And yeah, big hole in the heart of downtown right now. Everyone's really, really sad about it. He was a deacon at his church. I was very impressed by the little research I had to do to write about him. Because he was willing to pick it up. Yeah. But that's probably the biggest story of the month right now. Still blowing up, people are sharing it like crazy. How long does it become, or does it take you to become a local staple? Like how many years do you, 20, right? It seems like a good amount. Yeah, like old man, remember, gold man? Yeah, that used to. But he didn't do it for 20. No, and there's a new gold man. Yeah, see, but we're placed down. Yeah, they wasn't here for 20. They brought a new gold man out. There's like a new guy doing it. Same spot, right? I think so. Because that place turned into like an optician.

14:17But I think they're doing gold around the back now. So they brought gold around the back. Yeah. How many years did it take gold man to become an Orlando staple? I want to say like eight to 10 maybe. Right. And then Orlando weekly had him as the cover for that. We interviewed him when we started our podcast. Okay. Yeah, he was very nice man. Yeah, love that. He went on to bigger and better things. They've did a follow up with him and. And then passed away. I don't think he passed away. I think he's dead. Oh, daddy. Yeah. So going back to Milton. I might be wrong if you're not dead. Let us know. I'll write a story about it. Not that. I've been doing local media for in Orlando. Are you mad that you're not a legend? Do you want to be a legend? Yeah, I mean, drunky the bear is away. Yeah, yeah. You turned your back on it. Yeah, yeah. You turned your back on it. No, no, no, no, no. Just like George went from cheers. Yeah, he turned your back on it. People just like. Talking about you just like old Jimmy JJ Walker turned his back on. Dino night. You turned your back on it. When you turn your back on what and what you did. What brings you to the dance? When you turn your back on it, we spit on you.

15:19Who is your question? How do I become a legend? No, no, no, no. Now I fit in. I'm already a legend. It's either here the two things he likes to talk about him or money. Well, it's a two most important things in the world. I'm not talking about the two most important things in the world. But I didn't. You're a legend, Tom. Not what I especially with your shave and your peers. Look at the mirror. You're like, you're a legend, bitch. Who's the bitch is let go? Who's the legend? Somebody out there's AI and fat talk. And then the fish shave all the way past my belly. On the other hand, where do you stay? Shave. And I really shave. Babies and now it's just like, I just want to blast my hair off around my thighs. Papas like the bear on the great outdoors. Yeah, it's time to shave the legend. I need a taper. I need some sort of tapering. You need to do like a little Hitler. Yeah, you're such an ombre. You need some. Yeah, a fake. You're a fake. What you defaited into my belly and other hairs. Anyway, all right. You know how you hate Penny Far things because they should just skip right to the bicycle.

16:20Yeah, I think one day we're going to have like flame throwers that will just burn the hair off our face. And then I just want to skip to that. Happily we had to have a lady for a while. There's a Turkish barber. There's videos that show up in my algorithm. It was like a grease that he put people's hair. So then he would set their head on fire. Oh, yeah. See that? And it's a burn off something. I don't know. I'm not in my algorithm. Stupid. My algorithm right now is just hot biker girls and Indian street food. But you're not complaining. Yeah. Yeah. So go back to the building. I had never heard of them. Yeah. So in like, and I've never been downtown. Yes. And I've seen that guy before. I'm not sick. I probably did. I just never knew. Remember that Walgreens or by the Crest building on Orange Avenue? Yeah. You know, right there. Yeah. But I know that's kind of Egyptian-y on the outside. I guess I never, I don't notice homes. Like Casey. Homeless people very often. And not homeless. Oh, I know. You would have assumed. Yeah. Right. Well, just I'll just put it like, you know,

17:21anybody like trying to solicit something or like sell something. Are you conditioned to kind of black? Yeah, yeah. I'd like to be. I'm like, I don't know because I will end up if they'll, they'll, you know, convince me to buy whatever they're selling. Got it. Because you are a good mark. Yeah, yeah. So as soon as they start talking to me and I engage, I will buy whatever the song. Mm. So that maybe that's why I didn't ever notice them. No, you did. You know, have I got a proposition for you? Yeah. He's uncalible. But if they do get him, 100% of the time, if they're like, give me $100, he'll do it. Okay. I was just going to see what I'm going to get. Like, they'll get you. There's a story farm in there. So I'll yell at them. I'll be like, leave me alone. What else is going on in Orlando? I saw them. There was some controversy about the visit Orlando money being spent. Oh, what is right? Because their budget is like 200 million. Right? It's been. It's 200 million a year. Yeah. Like, I don't know how happy it is. 200 million.

18:21I didn't mean that number up. But it's like 80 million. No, it's a big budget. It's big. And a lot of it is public dollars. There is some private monies that come and they put that in a special account. But there's always something like that. They were most recently the the biggest thing that was. What am I talking about? Travesty. I don't know. Anyway, people were upset with them about some accounting issues that they had that has been cleared up. But through that, a YouTuber, Patrick Carr, you know, who's like me, but straight and gruff and he dies his hair black or something. Like, he just is this big old muscle man. I totally want to be. He's the top brim fix Orlando hat guy. Yeah. Got you. I see. Yeah. Who it like? So he's a marketing guy. He does videos for people. He wants to help people do video pods. And so he started doing one himself under this whole thing about fixing Orlando. So it's like more of a conservative talking head thing. He's had a lot of people on and ask him on.

19:21He was on. I saw that. And it was actually a lovely interview. Yeah. The long form one was good. Was really interesting. And he actually talked about abortion and like personal stories. I love talking about abortion. But then the clips are all like, I'm not going to have anything in common with an Ask a Monty. But the real story was he did have a lot in common. Sure. Made a nice chat. Yeah, great chat. So that kind of sucked me in. But since then, it's been a lot of attacking stuff. And he's attacking the city for like the canopy project and the things that they're doing down town. What's that? That's that under eye for park project that they're doing. It looks like trees, big metal trees. Oh, yeah. I love metal trees. Because of my favorite cast of trees, by the way. Our metal trees. Yeah, they want it so easy to keep. What is it they wanted? They want to turn that into some sort of robot forest. Yeah, but they don't do anything. It was free parking forever. Then they decided they were going to turn it into like a walking path. There was a problem with that. When they decided, I'm just going to just the ones I remember are like a walking

20:22path. They were going to do a skate park. Yeah. And that was finalized. They were like fine. That's cool. Gavoldown were doing a skate park. And then somebody was like, they're like, we want trees. Somebody was like, what if a guy like rides the skateboard off of the ramping ends up on I4 and they're like, no skate park. And then it's been like, there's been like six or eight ideas that they were going to do under this little spot of I4 that doesn't really have any use. And they're going to do it. Make a free parking. Yeah, no, no, no, that it was so nice to be. That's a big belly brewery. When I did trivia for a decade or two cost money back then. When the idea was there, it was the best place to park to get into church street. When I was drinking the parking back. So the park is, the whole thing was going to be park, but now half of it is parking again. And then the other half is going to be like a weird like exploratory projection park, a bathroom, food truck thing. And it's really a bathroom with a projector. Bad ass. Because you know the future. They want to get Nick downtown to Paramore. You know how people in Orlando are.

21:22They're like, you know what I want to do? I want to go walk around underneath the interstate downtown. The people who've been aching for it. Well, they want to make that experience. I get it. I get the inclination. The nugget is that they people park downtown. And then they walk through that part to get to like the Kia Center or the soccer game. Or they're just doing like, what's the loudest, darkest, smokiest part of downtown underneath that for it? Yeah, let's go walk around. That's why they're going to change it. Metal G ideas to change it. And make it something that helps invite you underneath and through. Not maybe not necessarily linger, but just make that experience better. Like a transition. Yeah, they call it like a membrane, you know, to an ear funnel. But if you will, just see a funnel from Bar Ressi. I don't know if I love the design. We did a whole thing. We have you can see the designs of the trees up on our Instagram. I don't end up on the website for the early end of shine. But I actually thought they looked like the Blue Man group to instruments.

22:25I was like, maybe it's like they're big. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It wouldn't that be cool if you could do that. But you can't. They're like, oh, no, nobody's interacting with the trees. I was like, okay. So we're just looking at them. Like that's a missed opportunity right there. But it is weird. There was a definite hit when they took away that parking for church street. All of those businesses on church street credit that to them closing, ceviche, rusty spoon, hamburger, marines. They all said it went downhill once that parking went away, which is they didn't talk to anybody about that. They just went ahead and did it. But also they did it at the same time where they were ultimate eye four was coming through. So they had to raise that section of the interstate. So they would have been closed for a moment anyway just to do that road construction. It did put the nail on the coffin though for a lot of those businesses. Well, at least the fixed traffic on it for them. I love ceviche. That was a fun place. And beautiful. Yeah. What did you like that place a lot? What are some other things that cities have?

23:28Because like there are like art installations that in big cities. Chicago's got that big old mirror bean. The bean. We need a mirror bean man. What's Chicago got? Look at that got down mirror bean. Hey, it has a big old mirror. Or it's what Jeff Ray wants to do and keeps trying. You know Jeff Ray the artist have you met him? He's a he's pro bean. He does all those mirror sculptures. Have you seen those around? No, no, no. Tell me like Marina. I don't notice the art. His most almost you ask. And everything's been again. It's a fun nothing to you. Did you see on the back of the parking garage by Admin Health? If you're driving a 5-4, everybody hates the sculpture, which is a shame. But it's it looks like fragments. It looks dumb in the daylight at night. It looks really cool. Okay. It's not the one that looks like metal trash blowing down the side. Yes, correct. There's supposed to be thank you letters to God. Frontline work. Oh, and that explanation is dumb as hell.

24:28But it looks it looks good at night. They light up and it looks like an evil installation at night. There's especially thank you letters to frontline workers. Yeah, yeah. What was it? I always thought it was like digital. I was like, this is a representation of trash from robots. If you asked 1000 drivers as they drove by that, what is this supposed to represent? Nobody would guess thank you letters. There's a lot of words. You've been like trashed. I'm like letters on the wind. I thought it was letters on the wind. Yeah, it's a shame. No one would have said thank you letters. Why didn't they ride above it? Thank you letters to first responders. Isn't that I'd be like, oh, if you're looking to buy or sell your house or you have questions about buying or selling your house, the Bart Merrick team, Bart Merrick, Crystal Van can help you out. They have a tremendous amount of experience with all different types of sales. Hundreds of our listeners. Yeah, all different types of price ranges. And that's who you need to talk to when it comes to buying or selling your house. Because you could be missing out on tons of money.

25:30If you use an inexperienced realtor, even outside of Central Florida, they have a huge network of other realtor's that can help you. And they can help you out. They can buy your selling. They can do it all. Yeah, and they can help you out with any general questions you want to ask them. Bart Merrick, Crystal Van, bartherealtor.com. If one more UXL sits reply all on what you're bringing to potluck Thursday, I'm burning this building to the ground. It's a corporate time with Tom and Dan. Well, put some sort of cross on the letter or a reverse emblem or scribbles. Or even these scribbles on the poster. Yeah, they're folded up letters. You know, it looks like a little love note. Like, you could have, I don't know why. And why are they blowing away? Yeah, now the first responders are just taking these letters and throwing them out the window to blow away. I'm not ready to thank you, letter now. It reminds me of that one preacher that was taking all of the letters to God and throwing them in the dumpster and they found them. What? Yeah, this is you. Oh, it was like decades ago. Like Santa Claus.

26:30What are you going to do with that? Yeah, every five years they find a guy from the post office who hasn't been delivering a mail. He's been chucking it in a field somewhere. Yeah. You picked a magazine down. And I know some verse responders and let me tell you, I don't want them showing up first. You're going to be mad. Yeah, the ones you know last is Rodgers, please. Yeah, I'll take my chances. But he does really interesting sculpt generally. They're like weird sculptures that are like covered with like a stainless, shiny stainless steel thing. So they're like prismatic cubic dog statues or people. I like a prismatic dog. Yeah, he's homegrown and he's done huge things in the Philippines like massive like sky scraper size people sculptures. You just did the letters to the first responders he did in the Philippines. Way cooling. He's trying really hard to do stuff here locally just because he lives here. But his commissions are so expensive and so large it just hasn't like hit. How much for the metal in the wind? Oh, I don't know. Do we know? But like probably at least 100 grand.

27:34Okay. I would think maybe around there because it's temper when you do a big project like that in Orange County, I think I think it's 1% 10% has to be used for public art of your project budget. Yeah. So that's that was part of it. Part of it. Sure. So with this particular story, it was some lady that didn't have a website. Oh, and then they were. They were. They were. He heard. Okay, so it was called. So he looked at the budget from Visitor Lando and there was something where a company called Meeting Movers was getting like $100,000 in fees from that public money, right? From Visitor Lando. And he was like, who is this company? So he looked them up allegedly and he couldn't find anything. When you look at their website, it's just like a single landing page with like an email. And there's no like real dialogue about what the company is and the service it provides. And then there's really nothing.

28:36And then so from a lack of information, he started making a bunch of s*** off. He said it was a shell company and that's any made videos and he made like a two-part series on his Instagram where he like went to their office trying to track him down. He did a classic Tom Van where he was like, I looked for information. There was none. Therefore, I'm going to say what it is now. Oh, it's a logical step. Yeah. You want to grow a jet black bear? Or you could keep looking and find the information that you're looking for, which is what he knows. That's the way to do it. You were later trying to go. I'm just going to look at them just. I'm going to look at them. And I. Okay, first of all, it's all that company, that organization handles a lot of money. So asking questions, you should be asking questions. Sure. Spending money on what is the process to hire a company? You $100,000 is in cheap. So what is the service? And so I love that he was asking that question. The issue is he came at it from like such an alpha, dude, bro, way that he was like calling this lady up.

29:39How much could he be? And recording. He was like, who are you? How much can you banish lady? Do you even work out? And she was going to pro-kid you're taking because if it's way, you're gay. And I was like, are you the owner? And she's like, I don't know. Like, what do you like? What do you want? Like that kind of like, what is this? And finally, she just hung up. And he was like, there you go. She's hiding from me. Boom! Chocolate! Put a boom chocolate on him. And so I was like, well, I wonder. So I wonder if she'll answer me. So I reached out to her and she and I was like, hey, I saw this video. What do you do? Can I just send you some questions? I'm very curious. And she was like, okay, send me your questions. And I did. And she answered them. And I thought they were kind of thoughtful. They're not like, 100% transparent. There are still some questions about like, why don't you have a website? Why don't you use actual photos? What does your company really do? And it sounds like they just, they like transportation. They move people from like the airport to an event.

30:40Like they just move. Like I was over. What the fuck? Like ultra private. Oh, what this guy now? Boom! Chocolate! He's right. She's really private. And also, and she's made like, Don't get her G-Bitch. Because I'm off the board and I'm sick of overspending. So again, I don't know. It just seems like she just doesn't have, she doesn't need a website because she, it's through word of mouth. And it's her clientele are just like rich private people who just tell other rich private people about the service that will like move them around and get things for them or deliver them to meet on your... You're, you work at the, you know, the convention center. Mary Kaye, Mary King Eagleman's just coming to town. And they're like, we want somebody to bring all the Mary Kaye wraps from the airport to the convention center. Do you have a company that does that? They recommend this company. That's like people logistics. That's what it sounds like. And that's kind of what she made it sound like. And so I shared all her answers. And you know, the Patrick Carr supporters are like,

31:43Well, she sounds, it looks just like what you said. Still super suspicious. Like she didn't answer everything. And then, because she's getting away from the government. Suspicion. That'd be really, yeah. Oh yeah, that is, it's sweet money to get that you're gonna run a business without a website or another. You're just like, But I know probably five people that have worked for her. I found that out through LinkedIn and reached out to them. And they all said, she's just a sweet lady who just doesn't need a website. Right. She does it does things through Word of Mouth. And that's how she got into Visitor Lando. But that does raise questions for me. Like why, why, that is an interesting leap for Visitor Lando to just go on Word of Mouth with a vendor, especially for like a hundred thousand dollars worth of contract stuff. Is it that easy to get work from Visitor Lando? So you're saying ask questions. And obviously don't make assumptions. With a $200 million budget, though, that's a fraction of a fraction. Yeah, that's nothing to that. There is nothing. Where's his friends with someone there? That's how it works for her. I thought that's how it works. I wanna get in friends with it. But don't you think that's interesting too?

32:44Ron, if you think that's interesting too, of like, it is just a fraction, but it's still a hundred thousand dollars. No, yeah, for sure. So a lot of money can happen, you know? And if it is easy for them to do that. We're, I was gonna do this one time. Because I'm not gonna name names here, but I know a guy that's a higher up in the government. And one day I got to talk to him. We were having some beers. Is he in the room with us right now? No, this is good then. I was like, what if, like, was he- Is this when you had beers of Rixcock? You know what I'm worried about? What if I was the best drinker, buddy's Rixcock? Whoa. And then I was like, what if I, like, you're in charge of OKAY budget. So I, you should turn down that real road money ring. But he called us that real road money ring. Oh my god damn, you look like that's fraud. We're scary. We're scary to live in. We're in Poltergeist. Like, uh, what's your head? Should I wear a wig? We're in some like, you look scary. You just said hair doesn't make anything better. No, but your head, only under head.

33:44Oh, yeah, the rest of your body, but don't put hair on it. Anyway, uh, and I was like, can I make a shirt out of that? I was like, what if I just started a LLC and then I say, you know, I'm doing whatever and then you start funneling government money to me. It's like, oh yeah, I can do that. And I'm like, oh, how did he shave it? I'm going to get that government money. Oh, yeah. But it's like, oh, but then I'm like, I'm gonna get some sort of middleman service to let's ask, right? Yes. OK. Yeah, that's all due to this. Hold on for facilitators. We can be facilitators. Here's what stopped me is because I was like, one day, they're going to call me up and then I have to talk to the whole panel. I'm going to get the bunch of people. I'm going to have a manila envelope. I don't, I feel very honest about it. No, no, but I, but Tom can't. I don't want, I don't, I can't talk to a bunch of people on that, you know, that is like a wizard canceled. It's like, it's not even one, I did one judge I can lie to. But when there's like five judges,

34:45there's like 15 people in a half moon around you and they're all looking at a half moon in your weakness. Yeah, yeah, and they're all looking at you. I love it. This is just an unfounded photo. Yeah. Hey, councils. Hey, council. Yeah, the council. Yeah, the council. The council of elders calling you in. Being brought in front of a council. Yeah, it's here for you to explain all your papers or fly that for your games. Yeah, yeah. Maybe this is like a past life regression thing. I have like you were brought before a council and killed. No, I'm just I can't lie in front of a council. And then it's taking a lot of your face if you're one or one. You got it. No, no. I'm thinking I should start a council of BDMs to keep you like straight. You have one with the council of favors. But he gave up barring things from BDMs. And then how long did it take for? It was less than 90 days. Yeah, it was less than 90 days. He was baggy bought a rolling motor. And by the way, they said you installed that trolling motor incorrectly. You haven't mounted wrong on your canoe. Wait, is this still called the council of favors? Well, he's probably they just banded it.

35:46It was a table of favors. And then it grew larger. Do a council. No, it's a delegation. There was a full-on delegation. I love the hive mind. The BDM hive mind is always fun to tap into. Congress of favors. Congress of favors. Congress of favors. Yeah, it sounds sturdy. You got a hard-hitting question for us. Yeah, what else you got? No, I just want to know what else is going on. What else is going on locally? Is there a... You got a different thing out of here. Click on a story and it'll tell us the top three best stories. What is that? A cup of yogurt? That's it for the 13 films. Oh, Halloween. What about the Nazis at... Oh, no. Let me talk about that. The Nazis at the Kia Center. Yeah, we have a... And then just scroll down. We'll always see... Oh, my gosh. Something happened. All right. The top right, top... If you go up, you know, just a little... On any foreign descent, you're going too fast. All right. There you go. And I'll always have the top three most red stories of whatever's happened in the last episode. So, obviously, a milk ton is still the big, big dog.

36:46And the Mollumillennial lost Earl's kitchen. That was the second big restaurant in the close at Mollumillennial. It's the kind of a trend. That is a big deal. And then Nazi martial artist draws in Nazi attendance at Kia Center. And the winner's sign just happened to find a topless photo of this man flexing his face. I'll be honest. In all fairness, it's one of the first photos that comes because it shows his SS-tests. Oh, I see it. Yeah, yeah. And look at those eyebrows. Those are some plucked... They're gender-affirming eyebrows for you. Yeah, they're thick. You know, we are creating a society when we forgot to talk about this on the BDM show. But Ross was mentioning, every time you make a comment on our BDM page, some bot will flag it and not let it through. And even Richard Herron is a BDM. He made some joke about Hitler. And just by saying the word Hitler in some joke, like... They filter it. Then they filter it. It doesn't get out there. I got a strike from our own BDM page for trying to fix somebody's account.

37:46I said, shoot me an email. And by saying, shoot me. You triggered some bot. Yeah, something happened and I got a... I got a band. A lot of the left wingers in the comments will put a... Asterox is in the mix. I'm not doing that. Yeah, like swearing in a comic book, that's how they're getting through the filter. Because they don't do it in the filter. Yeah, yeah. I'll never say on a live... I'll never say on house. I'll never say on house. You just do it. I even know the list. If you want to know, you should take the list of things he says a lot on air. But not on air. Did you follow that? The Nazi thing? I say... It seemed like Tom was there. Look at his hair cut. Look at the guy's hair cut. No, no, it was there. Do you think big thick guys just claimed? I'm them. He did say he had the beard of a Hitler youth. I think that's what you said earlier. Now, you can explain this story to me. It seemed like I just... I didn't pay attention to it because it seemed like a non-story. It's like, yeah, there are races.

38:47People are Nazis. We live in the United States. You can go outside and dress like a Nazi. You can go outside and start protesting for the pro-Nazi rights. Now, there's... I think I agree with you. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying the kind of wine. I think that's why I wrote the headline the way I did. Because everybody was picking it up and they were like, there was a Nazi at the Kia Center. Someone raises a Nazi flag at the Kia Center. And I was like, why are we surprised? We knew the guy was a Nazi. Here's his picture with an SS on his chest. We know he's a Nazi. The whole thing was built as a Nazi versus a Jew. That was the match. Yeah, yeah. Right. And the other guy's problematic too, I guess, because there were some allegations of... Of deadly... Yes, they do a 15-year-old. Right. He was sad. How old? 18? 17? Oh, that was a 15-year-old. But he was still in it. Yeah, he was younger. He was younger. So, last... You know, he's a pedophile Nazi? No, no, no. Oh, the Jewish guy was a pedophile. There was a Nazi versus pedophile fight on this thing.

39:47Yeah. And him. There was also a SpongeBob versus somebody. Yes. And the guest referee was Calvicular. Yeah, Calvicular. Really? Yeah. It's a mess. It's just all of the best humans in our Kia Center. What do you mean a SpongeBob? That's up here too. There's a clip. Yeah. If it's not in this story, you might have to just type Nazi in the search bar. You would dress the aspons... Well, he called himself FreakBob or something. Yeah, FreakBob. Go up to the... Do you see the search bar on the top right? Yes. Just type Nazi. Was it just like a ridiculous fighting event at the Guzzinor? Yeah, at the moment. It's a more tear fighting... Damn, but they had enough popularity to rent out the Kia Center. Like, goddamn. Maybe... How many people were there? There it is. There it is. There's FreakBob and there's Calvicular versus like a tiny Asian guy. Yeah. And he just... And whoever was dressed up like FreakBob went crazy on that Asian man. And I think... So, like, it is... What the hell is this? It looks like no offense without the Nazis.

40:49It sort of looks like one of our... No, no, no. It just looks like something we went playing. Johnny's other side or something. This looks like a radio... I was about to say, as a guy who's built a cardboard... ...brocket in that very same arena. Like... Look at him. What the hell is this? And there was enough people here. Was this like a social media influencer who put this event on? Dude, if you told me there was a Nazi fight in the Jewish pedophile... I would have been there. Yes, punch. Take it for kind of an incentive. Punches. The issue is... The people are upset because it's a city-owned venue and they're upset that there were... There was a Nazi flag that somehow got in and that there was even like a Nazi... There was a Nazi contingent there and they were throwing up the hand signs and he was throwing them back. And that was crazy. That was a little weird to take in. And there was a woman security guard who was the one that was... Brave as hell. Who's so brave. That's a crap right out of his hand. Right there took it and then there were guys getting in her face. Like, give them back the flag.

41:49She was fine. She was down. She was stone cold. She was amazing. Whoever that woman is, let's go. She didn't ever hear her. I think we should both then. Yeah, she's crazy. And I'd love to hear why she was tasked with it when I saw other... I mean, because I saw about her was that she is very high up and works a certain section of a magic game. And a lot of the magic people, normal normos, were like, I love that lady. She runs our section good for her. Okay. So obviously she takes pride in her arena and her job. She knew how to discharge that energy. She did a good job. Who put this on? Like a... It's a dual... Oh gosh. Yeah, a dual arena. And that's what this is about. It was fun to make a little out. You're teaching my wife out there's a big Spanish. I've got to do it before. Teaching my daughter and wife just makes Spanish. It's like a... Actually, it's kind of a middleman funneling corp to help them get licenses in Florida. These people who are out of state to do events like this and tour it around. It's lower tier MMA. Yeah. Okay. And I'm asking Monty's trying to get their license revoked. But this is what I'm saying. I'm asking Monty's trying to get their license revoked.

42:49But this is what I'm saying. I'm asking Monty's trying to get their license revoked. I'm asking Monty's trying to get their license revoked. But they must have been popular enough to... They were in an arena. And it was very busy. When they been around, this isn't their first event. They've been doing this for a hot minute. So, yeah, the last event was... It was a guy from the KKK versus a civil rights worker who beat his kids. But I'm like... For all of us not... We only heard about the aftermath. Yeah. We never even heard about this being promoted. And I was like, why is this guy on the card? And other people were like, why is this happening? Why are we having a Nazi fight in the KIA Center? Nobody did anything. Yeah. And so, because they said, and they put their statement out, they're basically like, hey, this is America. And you can feel that way. And their money is great. Is anybody else... You kind of want the Nazis, you know... If he was marketing themselves, they're like, hey, I'm a Nazi rather than a hidden Nazi. I guess the issue is that it's not like... Like if it was a fake Nazi, you know, like if it was like... Like W.W.S. style.

43:50Like that style. Like that's something we can kind of maybe laugh at. But this is like... This is somebody who's actually... That man with the tattoo is recognized by the U.S. government as a white supremacist agitator. It's his job to stir people up. He goes by the G-word crusader. Yeah. Remember how we got in trouble for the G-word? Roma. No, no. The G-word for traveling people? Oh, okay. All right, all right, all right, that's his name. All right. Yeah. So he really is like in real life. He's in that space. Yeah. In that space. Yeah, you can't say he's that weird. Like that part of it is what's really pissing people off. Because there were people who were there to support him as a real-life Nazi. Right. Really fighting a Jewish person on states. They loved that. So there is like... The irony of it... There is something there. There is a nugget of seeing people fighting like that. And that sounds like robot chicken.

44:51Like those old... I think people expect this level of freedom on the internet because it's the Wild West. When you see it in your key center where you've seen... Yeah. Like a billboard. It's like... Well, see, there's a legitimacy that comes from being able to go to an arena. Right. That maybe is weird. And the city is saying that their hands are tied because... I love money. That was a... That's a first amendment thing. They say we can't deny people to host an event in a public arena like this. We can't say no. That's a first amendment thing. Yeah. We'll get in trouble. Based on their espouse beliefs, whether or not we agree with them. Yeah. Like if the government... Because that opens up a bigger can of worms. When you deny... Yes. And other people are like... But you could make it hard for them. You could charge some extra fees. Like if you know there's gonna be Nazis... But again, anything you do to Nazis... But not to get... Yeah. Well, see, if Nazi gets into power, they could do it to non-Nazis. True. What if Reubob gets into power? Exactly. Well, like that guy who was in Seminole County Commission was trying to keep public funds from going to a theater in Sanford.

45:58I can't remember which one or DeLand. I'm getting confused. Because they were putting on... Like ranch or something. For Tim Curry. Oh gosh. I'm having a bodywear business show. Yeah. Thank you. Rocky or a picture show. They were putting that on. And they were like, that's gross. That's... That's a man wearing ladies underwear. That's man and ladies underwear. They should be getting public funds. So we tried to pull all their funding. And actually they canceled funding for the arts for that cycle because of that. You know. So there is... Yeah. There's a give and take. There's a couple of battles here. Yeah. Tough. And then they're lying. They're walking. And then it gets complicated because we do live in the same world or a ross can't make any of these comments because of bot because that is a private company, Facebook and all the social media. Yeah. So we're being censored heavily on our social media. And then we start believing like, oh yeah, well everything should be censored that way. And then when it comes to America, we're like...

46:58Yeah, we're like, we're like, we knew we're about not censored. We're dropping up books and putting them in the air. Yeah. Anyway, correct. So Brendan... And this particular event they had to rush because they had to cancel the Sloth Roar Rumble. I just... Oh, it's so slow though. It takes forever. It takes like five hours over the Internet. Oh, it's like a Sloth Pokemon Sloth. It's like a Sloth fight each other. It's like a Sloth fight each other. Nazi Sloths. No. On Coke. Yeah. You know how long it takes on Nazi Sloth to give the Hyal Heads. Like follow the sleeve over here. Yeah. You don't even know what it is until the end. That's the world. Oh, it's got his claw. They only climb down for tree to go poop every once a week. Oh my God. I don't know why I just told you that. What happened to the S. We time? Poo-p it from the tree. You know what you're talking about? I mean, I've been made a port of lit. I gotta go down. Orlando Shine. Also, you can hear Orlando Shine with Brendan and John Bustek are every Friday's in real radio at 8 p.m. Yeah. You get tired of carrying a bus on your shoulders.

47:59He's so great to have round. I got nothing bad. I got nothing bad. I got nothing bad. And he's such a good advocate with me and Mo. You know, they got for Mo to win and powering us. Love Mo, love John. We couldn't do it without Mo. We got through our first fiscal year and he's not mad at me. So we're in a good place. And we also have a show with Scotty. My ex-boyfriend Scotty has a show on WPRK. The Rise of Shine Show. And he just goes through the top stories of that week from our newsletter. He talks about that. When is that? Today actually, I had to go on because I had to sub in as a guest. So it comes on Tuesdays, Tuesdays, 9 a.m. WPRK. Yeah. I know. He was talking about a date. I was like, I don't need to hear about your stupid date. What are you doing? My wife would never believe me. I could. I was like, all right. You could hear his toe to your big. I get my post-single, but come on. Yeah. I guess he's still to be. I'm single if you didn't know that. There you go. All right. I'm looking out there. I'm looking for hot, hairy rugby playing in lawyers.

49:00I'm looking for cowboy Alabama surfer boys. I'm looking for a car. If you're listening to you, you have to have a car. If you don't have to talk so much. Shed black beard. What do you get? You can shut him up. He's sitting on his jet black beard. I want someone who's just going to be nice to me. What about Freakbob? Freakbob? You probably get it. Yeah. I'm going to pass. I'm going to get the information on the next Moe comedy jam on the 17th of October at the Orlando Funnymo. All they take is the stuff for out now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Each of you tickets now. All right. We will be right back. If you need flooring, core flooring center right there in Winter Park, core flooringfl.com is a website. 20 years experience. Great ratings online. It serves all of Central Florida. Yeah, they get that made in the USA. Waterproof, laminate, vinyl planks, wood floors and carpet. They do dustless flooring removal.

50:00I did that. It's very important if you want it done efficiently and zero percent financing for 24 months. And if our limited time right now, you can get 10% off all your flooring and labor starting at just one dollar per square foot. So if you need flooring, core at core flooring center will help you out. core flooringfl.com. Effective immediately, it's Charlotte's last day here. We wish her well on her future endeavors, which is code for this ended very poorly. It's a corporate time with Tom and Dan. Welcome back to a corporate time. I'm the powder frog. Oh, yeah, yeah. We were talking about my beard and my hair and people are saying I should shave my head and shave my beard. And I would look like, well, I don't even know if people know that reference anymore. The movie powder. They do because I'll tell it on the BDM show. Okay. I kind of got struck by lightning this weekend. So yeah. And then everybody was referencing what kind of powers am I going to get?

51:02I get tired of sticking up for you and you're right to live your life the way you want to live it because people are like, you need to tell it. I'm like, look, I'm not going to tell him anything. He is his own man. He wants to stand on the beach during an electrical store. He can do it. Well, there were other people out there. That would just be and I was attracted by the rainbow. Why did they come to me? Why do they send me the email? What do you expect me to do? I'm not going to look. I have their voice of reason. No, but to know, but everybody wants me to give you crap. The show has never worked like that. In fact, the show would not be any fun. If everything he said, I'm disagreeing with it. Well, what fun is in that? Well, give me crap. I'll take it. No, I don't want to give you crap. That's the thing. I like you. You're my body. I support the things that you do. So sign up to be a BDM if you want to hear that. TomandDAN.com slash registration. So you watch the ray gun documentary that's on Netflix. I did. I'm going to watch the tonight. I think we're back. Yeah, it's a quick watch. It's only like it's an hour, 10 minutes long. Or yeah, I think it's about an hour, 10. So with the rainy weekend, which God, I hate a rainy weekend, man.

52:06I hate it, hate it, hate it. There were bad storms over the weekend. Yeah. Socks have a rainy, labor day, but we're in Florida. Yeah, that's right. So what happens? And then Macy was like, do people still take their boat out? I was like, baby, they do. Oh, I saw them up. And then they raise home. Yeah, like, I got to beat the storm. Beat the storm. Well, that's a great fact. You see it coming. She doesn't remember that we've done that with you before. We have to beat the storm. She's a bad memory like her dad. The bad ones are when it's coming the direction, you have to go home. Then there's no way home. Yes, but I've always wanted to stay there during the storm. You can do that. That's a van family way. Yeah. Hold the boat up to the middle of the lake and just hug her down in the boat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every, yeah, yeah. The water is nature's tires. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's true. Don't do that. I don't want to get in trouble for that. So yeah, I had a little bit of time. And Macy likes tinkering. So behind me, the way that our living room is set up, this plays into the story. The way that our living room is set up, Macy's desk, like our academic desk,

53:08is directly behind the couch. Yeah. And her academic desk has now become a Vietnamese nail salon. She has every polish. She has multiple lights. She has chair. She has a chair for her client. She does nails, dude. All of a sudden, she's calling a Vietnamese nail tag. Okay. And she's goddamn good. She's really good at it, dude. She has. I think you made good money doing that. She did her friends nails. I don't want to say their friends names. She's done her friends nails twice for ten bucks a pop. I go, you got a chart. Jack your prices up a little bit. Okay. She loves doing nails. And then she comes in. What does that even, do you have any idea what that costs? Oh, yeah. I do. I don't even have 75 bucks, man. 75. Oh, yeah. She starts in 10. I was like, you got to go higher. You got to do at least 30. I was about to say, I have no, I don't even have any idea how to get close to what we're doing. What are we doing? Regular polish? Are we doing half jail? Are we doing full jail? I don't know what's a jail. The jails when you use the light. Look, I don't know all of it, but I just, you know, I pick up ticks, little bits and pieces

54:13here and there. Is it like the gel is a part of the paint? Well, the paint is like a special paint that's supposed to give you this really luxurious shine and it's also more durable. And then you have to cure it under one of those lights that, you know, Dennis cured your teeth. Who's all right? I love that. That's the magic light. I'm like, who's the magic light to cure my teeth? So she, yeah, she has the lamp and everything. 75 bucks. So that's the one. I just tend for friends. Okay. And she does. How long does that take? Oh, it takes an hour, hour to half. Okay. And she'll sit there meticulously. She'll clean her friends nails. Then she'll wipe them all down. Then she asks them what colors they want. And then she'll design like on her friend last week and her friend had a pair of earrings that are like brown with like cream polka dots. So she did her nails brown top coat with cream polka dots. Beautiful, like perfect polka dots nails. And then she puts like a really thick top coat on it and cures it under some light.

55:14It's crazy. It's crazy. Well, tell her, upper presses. I told her. I told her. I told her. You make her nails long logo. Hey, I bet you know, you can do you make her whole business. She's a business and kids can work right? That's all she wanted. Oh, you changed that along. She's been a little Vietnamese kids. I mean, she learned from the best. Like in little Vietnam here in Orlando, Andrea took her down. She's been begging to go to these nails. You've driven past them. There's tons. There's at least six in like, we can walk to it. Yeah, yeah. There's at least six of these Vietnamese nail depots that have like the chair, the lounge, the foot bath, all the kind of stuff you need to do a nail salon. So Macy's been begging to go there. I won't tell you that if you have a young woman, a young girl in your life, like I do a daughter that wants nail polish on Amazon. These Vietnamese brand polishes are like 18, 20, 22 dollars nail polish. If you go to the store, it's six bucks. It's way cheaper if you just go to the Vietnamese store. Okay.

56:14Well, where are they getting it from? I have no idea. And the chemicals all the chemicals in my whole house smells like my whole house smells like Flint, Michigan in there. You like the water on fire? All of this to say that I was watching the Raygun documentary while the fumes are just blowing into my face. She's also got, she wants the vacuum. Oh, and with this, she wants this nail desk. It's so expensive. There's a nail desk she wants that has a vacuum. It's like a long, it looks like a, it looks like the air conditioners that would be on a motel. Okay. That are like pops up out of the desk. So you can put your nails in front of it. So when she's grinding the tips, it vacuums the dust in. Oh, yeah. You can get nail longs. Yeah. You don't want to get nail longs. So you know, our grandparents are from West Virginia and they used to get the black long. So this is just the next generation of it. So I'm watching the Raygun documentary while Macy's tinkering on her nails. And I got to tell you, I felt, I do feel bad for Raygun, but it did lay out her plan a

57:19little bit better so you can understand that she did know that she was fully in the Olympics and the 2024 Olympics for break dancing. She was in way over her head and she knew it. She was outmatched. Yeah. She knew. She knew she was outmatched and they kind of walk through it. You kind of end up hating her boyfriend or husband like he's like, you know, I think they always do that. Wherever there's a male figure in any documentary, they're like, yeah, let's make this guy look the dorkiest we possibly can. Because why is it here, which is a weird thing? That is weird. Yeah, he used to have like hair like you, like perfect, like cop hair. And he has now gone to like them. It's like a youthful look. You know the mullet perm? That's it. A lot of guys rock the mullet perm. Yeah. I feel you're just stunting at this point, right? You're doing it for attention. You're not, you don't really like that the way your hair looks like that. You're just, you're doing a stunt. What's the style? I think it's the mullock. I think it's to keep you youthful. Like wherever I have leaned into looking older, I feel like like this guy is like really

58:23clinging on to his youth as he eeks into 40, I feel like. But yeah, it, it, the most surprising thing from the documentary was you know, I got to really learn much more than, than you didn't, you didn't already know other than, I don't know if you'll remember this. There was a lot of misinformation going around about her husband who's, and this is the first time I'd learn this. Her husband's breaker name, break dancing name, B boy name, sorry. Thank you. His B boy name was Sammy sex. Okay. They probably never mentioned that on the Olympic broadcast or the thing because of, yeah, Sammy sex with the perms. Yeah. Every sex, the perfect, Sammy sex. Yeah, really. But the one thing that that I found most intriguing about it was that she, like she knew, like fully full on knew that she was completely outmatched going into it. And they were, they kind of walk through break dancing and they walk through the different

59:24moves and that they kind of show the differences between male break dancing and female break dancing. And in order to really excel in female break dancing, you need to implement at least one or two are a thing that you call power moves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And most women, when mills, drops, yeah, flares. Yeah. Um, any type, like traditional where you're like, whoa, like anytime someone does break dancing, you're impressed by the power moves, the, like the top rock or whatever is more of your standing up dancing. So even the chat room is just, they're still going after this lady. You got Cara saying, I don't feel bad for it at all. She took grant money and tried to make break dancing her own. Really? I don't know any proof of that. I mean, maybe you do. Maybe you've really dug into this. SJ says, nope, screw ray gun. They set it up to do nothing but scam it so she could go to the Olympics. They claim in the documentary that that was not a setup. They didn't control any of the, uh, you know, the qualifiers, qualifiers going into that.

1:00:29Now if you, if you know differently, then you can write, you know, ESPN or Netflix or wherever did the documentary, I'm just going on what I heard. I saw in the documentary and they claimed that, you know, it wasn't a set up that they don't control any of that and all, and even other break dancers say that she was the best break dancer in her qualifier at that time. And that's why she moved on. Now maybe you know differently than I do, but I'm just going on what I saw. Yeah. And there's like situations that happen with these qualifiers, especially the break dancing is small. Like it's, it's probably the smallest, actual competitive sport. I don't know what you want to call it. Like, the, the, the scholar sport that has ever been in the Olympics, I think based on probably worldwide, like, uh, participation in the sport of break dance. Right. You know, like I just, it's so small that people are thinking like, oh, they're, and

1:01:30there probably is better break dancers, women break dancers in Australia. But for whatever reason, they weren't in the Olympic qualifiers and she wanted. Oh, and she made it. And I was like, my interview, one of those girls, I forget the girl's name. She's more of a, a Polynesian, uh, or, you know, like, a native of, of Australia. But she didn't enter. And by the way, there's, uh, break dancing, there's no money, zero money. So everybody that is even probably really good at break dancing better than Ray Gunn probably couldn't travel like the Olympic qualifiers are probably in like you heard Savannah, a giant country. You're like, yeah, you can't money at all. Yes. You can't even make it to travel to the qualifiers and take, you know what I'm saying? So like, look, I'm not defending the lady. I'm just saying what I saw in the document or I could care less. I mean, she's 30 something break dancing doctor from, uh, from a, a university in Australia. UKers, but I think people get confused of like, people also get really mad about this.

1:02:30Is something that I've figured out? They, they, they think the Olympics is bigger than it actually is too. There's not that even much money in the Olympics in general to begin with. There's a top tier. And then that's about who does the best. Yeah, yeah. You have Michael Phelps and then everyone else. Everybody else is funding their own way and doing all this for their own. Yeah. There's a reason Flavor Flav has to like buy uniforms and things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there's no money in the Olympics with cash. Yeah, yeah. But what was really interesting about the documentary is like she, and so they came over the plan basically for her to be, to at least get one point for creativity. Yeah, for, for being, for being creative. And it turns out that she didn't, she even her creativity was not good enough. And I, you know, I think the entire documentary is based on, if you want to watch it, I don't want to really spoil it, but it is based on one dance move. And it's, or, and it's origin story. And that's all I'll say. There's one dance move she does. And then there's an origin story behind it that involves Australia.

1:03:31And it's not the kangaroo and it's not the ones you think is not the fish and swimming. It's none of that. But I'll just leave it at that. And I think the entire documentary is honestly built on that one premise. Okay. Now people, some people in the chat room are saying she's an executive producer and that she's a scammer. Look, a lot of times they'll make these people executive producers because if they don't, they won't participate in the documentary. I don't necessarily think that means that she set this all up so she could go to the Olympics. I still, no one has given me definitive proof of that. She, and people, why do people get so mad about this? She may have agreed to do the documentary if she had some sort of say on how it looked after it got released. You know what I'm saying? Sure. So they may have just, like, said, okay, well, they agreed to it because it was either that or nothing. A lot of documentaries are like that because she was portrayed so poorly in the media, even to like, people are mad at her. Like, like, the seabird. Oh, yeah. Okay. They're so weird that everybody was like, so angry at her. I was like, people in the chat room, I don't know.

1:04:31I don't know. Literally Kara is melting down right now because of that. Why are people so mad? I don't get it. I don't understand why you're so mad about it. Because it had nothing like, who cares? Yeah. Who cares? It affects my life with a big fan zero. And she was attacked so much that even if you did feel like she did anything a little bit wrong, she would pay the price. She is called the seabird in this documentary. She has paid the price. She has, like, maize turned around to me. Well, she's behind me. She's doing nails and maize is like, what's a seawird? And I'm like, oh my god. They use the seawird a thousand times for this lady in the documentary, which I'm like, it's not that big of a deal. So obviously I have, you know, I'm very little experienced with break dancing, but I do probably have more experience than a lot of people. More than I do. And the fact that I took Max to his break dancing practice for years and sat there. And for the most, I mean, a lot of times I sat in my truck at the ending of, you know,

1:05:32like, at the beginning I sat there and watched because I was, I wanted to see it. You want to participate in supporting? So for, you know, an hour, sometimes twice a week, I would sit there and just watch and observe what was going on. And there, there's a lot of people don't like it. I didn't understand break dancing before I got into it. And there's a lot more creativity and dance and art involved than a lot of people just, I think they just look at it, you know, like I do for most things. And you're like, okay, whoever does the best windmill wins. And that's not how it's judged. Like, you know, Max would, you know, basically do a cipher at the end when then there would be judges and the judges would talk about then like what they saw and who, why they're someone won. And a lot of it was stringing together moves in a creative way. Filling a story of them. So yeah. And even some of the, like, you would see a guy go up there and do like a perfect windmill,

1:06:35right? And then the girl that was competing against him would just be more creative and the judges would give it to her. And so even though, and so the, and that's how it kind of handicaps itself where if you can't do some of these moves, then you can be creative and still beat your partner by stringing together more creative routine than that guy did. You know, they maybe just does like three basic power moves, a windmill, some flares, like, you know, and like stuff is impressive. And then the competitor would beat them through creative. So there is an element of that that I don't think many people understood to begin with. And I didn't even understand when this ray gun happened because I laughed just like everybody else. What the hell? We watched your live. I remember. But then seeing it for years of like this practice and I'm like, okay, I get a lot more now. And then there's the element of art and dance of it that doesn't get accounted for because people don't understand, you know, they're not inside that world.

1:07:37And she's like a goofy nerd. You can tell she's really smart. She knew she couldn't do any of these or as much of these power moves are as good as the competitors. So she went creative. The world was like clown in her. And then attacking the math. They're like, they're like, just get her. I don't think it's a, you know, who knows if she, and that's what I was interested in. I'm going to watch it. But did she have any idea that she was going to get as much flack as she got based on, like she's like, she must have known like the world and the audience is not going to understand what I'm doing. She claimed or that she knew she was outmatched. And she knew that like she wasn't going to win because they even addressed that a little bit because she was making appearances on Australian television. And people were like kind of kicking around like, could you get a fake out, you know, and like, well, of course not. She didn't, she kind of shined away from that. Yeah, it doesn't seem like, plus I think she's smart. Like I don't think she's an idiot. Professor.

1:08:37Yeah. But I also don't necessarily adhere to the line that she's a scammer, though, either. I think that's just an easy way of, right? Like right now we live at a time where we have to either say you're either a hero or a villain. And so she's saying is anything gray area? Well, you know, it's weird is in other sports every once in a while, we'll see the person who made the Olympics that has no business being there. You see this in skiing and others a lot. Yeah, yeah. And then it'll be like the person made it from this country. Costa Rican skating. Yeah. And then they'll barely go down and everybody's like, what? How was this person? And then like there's not a lot of scares there. Yeah, yeah. There's no money into it. So the ones that were maybe really good have no interest in the Olympics or can't travel to me even see now just chance says because the implication is she took us from someone who deserved to be there. Then that person should have tried out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you see if you can't just imaginary pluck somebody from that didn't have the money was if they didn't go to the qualifier, they didn't go to the qualifier, you can't

1:09:39magically make that person appear. Like I've even talked to some of these guys. That's incorrect, guys. And amongst the B boy world, they don't have the money to go travel. There's no one sponsoring them. There's no one like, you know, maybe they can like go fund me to, but they have to be there. Like ask one of the ladies. If you've seen the documentary, you'll know what I'm talking about. If you haven't seen the documentary, then you have no room to talk. There is a lady that's there that is obviously a better break dancer than Ray Gunn. And they say to her, did you try out for the Olympics? And she says, no, I have no interest in it. Then that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. She goes to the Olympics. That's just the way it works. Yeah, the Olympics are not going to be like, no, we're going to find someone better. They may have time to be looking for the best. It's not a talent search for Christ. They put up with qualifiers or like, hey, if you make this call, you win this qualifier, you make it the Olympics for your country. They advertise it. And then whoever shows up, that's it. Like they're not like, no, we're going to find someone better. Like it's just like, she just happened to be the best on that day.

1:10:41You know, anyway, I mean, I don't care about it at all, but it was very, very odd. Yes. Ross McCoy, how about how matter you at Ray Gunn? A hard disagree. With that is what your search comes up with. You do another search. I'm talking about like you're not there. When you're Australia, you have certain responsibilities. You're not representing just like country at the Olympics. You're representing an entire continental shelf. You're telling me. You're telling me all the ocean. One seventh of the earth's surface and ocean matter. And you couldn't find a better bird dancer than that. Get out. Get it. You know how I would say that when I did watch the qualifier, the girl that she went up against for the finals, I thought did a comparable job. Like I don't know how you, I don't know how she would have gotten, you know, picked there. But hey, I wasn't a judge. Also, I put it on the judges. If you're going to be mad at anybody, they had six judges, I believe. They're judging the qualifier.

1:11:42Yeah, yeah. And all of those guys looked like, and this is me profiling, but I think it's allowed in this instance. They all look like break dancers. I mean, they had bandana, then sideways hat or scarf or baggy puffer jacket. Like if you're going to wear those type of items on the judging panel, then you owe it to Oshiana to do a great, like, okay, that goes into what Ross is saying. I blame, if anybody you're going to blame, blame the judges that let her go through. It's also, oh my God, the chatroom says I'm defending a monster. No, no, no, it's maybe I am. No, no, you guys, again, the chatroom doesn't, I know more about break dancing to the chatroom. 100%. I know you do. Because unless they watch it, unless they have, you ever guessed it, say, it's true. And like unless you sat there for hours in a room, you've called them out before. It's a sense that would have made his pop-up shake his head like you. What? You think he's playing cards and heaven right now?

1:12:42He's like, oh, no, it hurts. Why don't you watch it guys by the way? You're just playing cards? No, no, no. Play cards when I'm asleep. You don't have to sleep anywhere. They're not on their top. They're not. It's just a 12 hour difference. He's on Australia, too. So, anyway, he has eternity still by the way. It's just a good spot, yes. That's true. Absolutely, too. Did he or could pop up ever listen here by the way? No, I don't know. Never listen to the radio either. Good for him. Good for him, man. He's too old for it. Yeah, and I'm glad he didn't because he wouldn't be very upset about my views. So the judging aspect of break dancing, I sat there for hours watching these judges and then they would pick people and I would be confused about why one person won over the other because it looked like one person was way better at break dancing in my mind and my ignorance of then the other person who actually won.

1:13:43Right. And then those gymnastics is like judged by a judge and a score, but they have criteria. Like, I skate. They have to skate too. I skating, they know all the moves and they have certain ranking so they can say like they did this, they did that and they did the triple axel. How many turns? How many twists? And they did it perfectly. So this score does break dancing have something like that? It is kind of, but I don't think it's a concrete. It's more art than that because it's so when you have to break dancers, break dancers battling each other, a part of it is you taking and like emphasizing that other person that went against you's moves and kind of like even emulating kind of what they did and then like pushing the energy back. If that is hard to explain, but like I was. Like in a rap battle. Like a hard-do-cone. Yes. Incorporate the previous. Yes. I may be this, but you're that. Yes. In a rap battle, so like if someone's free styling and then the other person battling that

1:14:44person takes elements of what they said and throws it back at them. So like even if you're not as good of a like break dancer, windmills and all the power moves, you can take what they did and then like instantly kind of utilize it in your routine and the judges like that more. If you do that, then the other person shows like almost battle awareness. Yes. Yes. Like using the energy being confident. So even if you're not as good and you do all these right things, you could be better and win the battle. She addresses that. And that's hard to explain to the novice that doesn't understand break dancing. She addresses that at one point in the final. She talks about how and you can see in her face like she's very confident. There is a kind of stick in her tongue like through her teeth and like the way she was moving was as if like, oh, I got this no big deal. You know, it's just it and what she did in the Olympics was 10,000 percent confidence,

1:15:44zero percent skill and technical ability or anything, which I think kind of matters. And I kind of want to ruin the move now for Ross because like the the final, the thing that I'm not going to watch it. So I mean, I don't want people getting mad at me because I ruined some documentary that came in a couple weeks ago. Do you want me to talk about it? No, I'd rather know. I'd rather know. I'll leave it so you can listen. But I think they built the documentary. They saw the Olympics. They will know they built the documentary around one move she did and the reveal they give is at the end of the documentary and then you're kind of like, oh, and it's, you know, it's the coolest part of the documentary for a not very good documentary. It does kind of suck for break dancing because I now understand more than I did the impossible situation they were put in where all I think the break dancing community kind of collectively understood this is in one aspect really good for this sport to spread awareness like to get more people involved because it is a sport that zero money's like, I've seen

1:16:48locally they have no money. They don't charge any money. There's no money. There's no sponsor money. Zero. And everything done in that break dancing community is for the love of the game. And it is a really cool thing to learn how to do. And I saw like what Max got out of it and what even the great people involved in it. And like the fact that there's like you loved his coaches. You said they were like creativity exercise. Like there's so many good things about it that I am the positivity anyway. But they probably knew like hey when we show this to the world like the world is not going to understand all the elements and that's usually with a lot of sports. But it's like the and I'm sure the judges realize like hey we have to judge this kind of leaning towards the way the world would judge it. So like they can't probably judge it because they knew the whole entire world is well looking at them. And it influences the probably the way they normally would do like things.

1:17:49Well they kind of start by talking about how women don't do a lot of power moves. And then they kind of end and talking about how these women do power moves. It is so incredibly impressive that they like to go back to what you're saying. So those obviously those women scored like way higher because they can do like one of them is called like a coin drop. Like it's different head spins and things that just not every woman can do. You know when we watch other sports in the Olympics that we don't understand I think we don't give as much flat to those other sports that we do break dancing. I think a lot more people under think they understand break dancing more than they do. And that's another problem is like we grew we've seen break dancing a lot. Oh we know what it is. And then we just dismiss it. Yeah, compared to like other sports that we don't understand like you know what's a sport where you're skirling. Curling I don't know. Yeah, ski and shoot. But like some things are like not as subjective as break dancing. You know that's the that's the problem. It's like there's a lot of art that's you know what they you know what you're using

1:18:52the you're using the two words I want to argue about now break dancing is not a sport. Therefore not belonging to the Olympics. It's an art like you can you can have let's say I have an art gallery and I sponsor a painting contest and a bunch of painters paint canvases and bring them in and we judge them on like brushstroke type and like how well it's represented. We have a photo realistic category. We have an abstract category and we judge those paintings and we decide which one's better so sport. Yeah, we need that we need the sport art line to do the little bit harder. But the Olympics has always been sports. Yes, and we should have left it at that. To the war one side gets pulled over the line. They win or lose you know there's no judge saying what you know what the J. Not pulled over the line but they they pulled with a little bit more heart than the other side so they went. Even skateboard tart because a lot of like there are creative skateboarders that you're not going to say that guy. Oh wow, look he can go down the biggest ramp or go the fastest or do the best grind. But look at how fluid his movement is or look how creative his moves are. We're taking the Olympics for dialing back to track stuff and we're working away up from

1:19:53there. I like painting in the Olympics. I think you start with that. Or we go the other way we dial it so everything is for it. Like gymnastics is kind of like that where there's some art in like a. Yeah, but there are definitive athletic moves. I was saying if you're going to do three flips, it's like, whoa. And they've defined like what's the best way to do those moves. You do it with you know your foot arch not flat you know stuff like that so they can take a look and say he did this gymnast at A Y and Z and they get the score this way. Yeah, yeah. But this lady makes everybody mad holy crap. But that's the thing everybody looks at it like those look at break dancing like gymnastics where it's like, oh, if you do these moves and it's like a this completely different. Yeah. And that's I think why this lady got the most amount of hate because it's interesting the visceral hate towards people. Yeah, people who just feel hate. Like people were saying they were saying things like she can't even do her make up right. Yeah, they're calling her a white bitch.

1:20:55A white seaworthy word. The seaworthy word. The seaworthy word to the point where Maisie asked me for the first time ever what the seaworthy word is. And I said that's your mom. No, I didn't. I didn't. I was like, ah, you'll handle this one Andrea. That's where her confidence works against her because she walked out there so confident and did her routine so confidently like through the roof confidently and everybody hated it so much they were like, why were you confident about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny people hate a bad going your confident and bad. It's like the worst of both would mention you walking in your doctor is confident and bad. I think she is long got to go. It's funny. She is. There you go. All right. And they said at the end of the documentary, the one thing I take a little bit of liberty I think they took liberty with is that they said she stepped back. She's like, I'm stepping back from my position at the university. No, I believe they eliminated your position. Uh-huh.

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1:22:57Avoid the lobby at all costs. It's a corporate time with Tom and Dan. Welcome back to a corporate time with us on Zoom. He's going to be at Ferg's concert, Pavilion and St. Pete this Friday. You can get your tickets right now. Mr. Mix from Two Life Crews on Zoom with us. How you doing, Mr. Mix? Doing good, man. Peace, love and hair grease. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Man, you look amazingly good for somebody on an I love the 90s tour. And I'd like to remind all of our listeners, I love the 90s tour.com. If you want to find all your information and get tickets, Montel Jordan's there. Two Life Crew is there. So I mean, you've been doing this for years and years and years, still behind the tables, still doing it. And we appreciate the time, man. Thanks for giving us some time today. Yeah, I'm glad that my man hooked us up, played Connected Dots. I'm really happy about that. And you know, you never get enough promotion.

1:23:59You know what I mean? You know, always try to do as much as you can to bring more attention to yourself. And you have to find willing participants also. So there's a great fit. I'm glad that it happened. For sure, man. So that's what that kind of leads us into my first question, David, is like back when you guys were getting basically attacked by the government for obscenity charges and all over the new arrested. And like back then, were you thinking about the tremendous marketing value of this because this is what when I was a kid, made to live crew. Oh yeah. It's dangerous. So I love it. Yes, explode. So it's like in one way, they did you a tremendous favor in the marketing wise of marketing to live crew by making you basically telling all of America's youth like, hey, they're so dirty that we're arresting them.

1:24:59You know, in America. So did you guys think about it like that? Or was it so? Well, Luke was always a political guy. So he's like, so brother, pilot to the people type of cat. So the thing is with us, we had, you know, when all of the stuff started happening, we were on our third album. So it was kind of shocking to us. We already had two albums that had already had gold status. So the third one, it went platinum before all of the foolishness started happening. It sold to more, two million more when all of the foolishness started happening. And I think that the biggest issue was it said, you know, run DMC slightly before us, they crossed over with what Eros Smith, when they did the walk this way song. But we crossed over because we were making explicit versions of records, but we're using Van Halen and, well, the kinks and all these other different people in our records. So, but we didn't really think it would be off the way that it went because of the comedians

1:26:05like Eddie Murphy, Richard Prior, they said, they never caught that kind of flag. So we were wondering why we were actually catching the flag. I think, you know, we crossed over, but we crossed over in a different way than run DMC and crossed over. It's interesting. That is, you know, you bring up a really excellent point. I collect a lot of records. And one of the filthiest records I own is way older than even Eddie and, you know, Chris Rock people like that. I have a red fox record. And man, red fox was just, it would be great. It would send your eyebrows with some of the stuff he would say. And it was all racial humor and sex humor. And why do you think you guys caught the flag? Was it just because it was, they thought maybe you were, well, I didn't think you were targeting the youth. And fact, all your shows were 18 and up. You had to be 18, you had to be an adult to get into the shows. So why do you think you guys caught those bullets? I think what happened is that one, I guess with comedians, they would label their records as X-rated. And we didn't actually have our records listed that way.

1:27:08And at that time, the parental advisory sticker that started getting put on the records was a new thing. So nobody really knew how to govern the scenario, even though we're making, you know, we're all adults and we're making records for adults. But I guess with hip hop at that time at its infancy, there was a lot of, you know, people that were, you know, 17, 18, 19 years old. That's, you know, that's doing, you know, doing the records and things. So maybe they really felt like we were trying to project to teenagers in this end of the third. So, but all of us were grown. I was, I'd already did a stand in the, in the military. I was like, at that time, I was like 23, 24 years old. So they just didn't, they didn't view it the way they probably should have viewed it as us being, you know, flat out adults. They thought that we were trying to produce young kids, I guess. Sure. Maybe the rock and roll bands back in the day, whether it was Steven Tyler and all that,

1:28:08maybe those guys were grown and the way that they made their records, you know, they would catch all kind of flat too. So I think it's all kind of the same thing. But ours is just a different, you know, music format, it was, you know, brand new format that has never really been thoroughly tested out. So I think we're just, you know, people to be able to point at. I don't think it was no racial stuff or this at all. I just think that, you know, when you don't have conversations and that's our, oh, and that's the biggest thing. We were an independent record company. We weren't under Atlantic or Universal or any of these other things. So we were just kind of like, you know, like free enterprise that is, that is greatest. Do you want, I mean, doing it before anybody else is down. I was going to ask you, do you think that kind of like drew a 10 negative attention from like huge record companies that were afraid like, hey, if these guys can do it independently,

1:29:10it brings the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that's kind of what was happening, but you had some major independent companies like Profile Records and you have priority records who put in your NWA and easy, huge records out. Yeah. What was happening is that when they would have their budgets to do videos for up and coming artists at an Atlantic or whatever, maybe they're spending a hundred grand, 150 grand for a video with us, we're spending like $20,000, $25,000. So it was a whole bunch of stuff that they couldn't force us to take deals with them. That was the biggest thing. You know, that was the biggest thing of all, not just think that there's made a big hoopla, but there were some instances like, you know, young people having their parents going in by the record, but the parents don't know what the kid is about to buy. So goopy stuff like that was happening. And it's that classic American thing where like NWA is rapping and they're like, there's

1:30:12murder in their albums and it's like, you know, a little bit of a problem, but whatever. But the real problem is what? Sex and two live crews all about sex. That's true. And in America, you can watch, you can watch Robocop, you're going straight up murder guys, but you can't watch a porn video. Oh yeah, well, think about it. Video games, Mortal Kombat, nothing but ripping people's heads off, name a video game that has boobs in it. There's not. Yeah. There's no video games of boobs in it because you're right, Ross. That's an excellent point. Sex has always been a problem. But man, I love how horny you guys were. Man, I loved how horny you guys were, man. And then you were speaking on the covers. Yeah, yeah. I was like, yes, these are my guys. I didn't know swimsuits like that existed. You guys are honestly taught Ross and I have songs. I had no idea what a song was until you guys. Absolutely. Well, to keep it 100, all of this stuff was kind of new from the visual aspect, but I'm originally a California guy. You got beach boy stuff, California girls and surf movies and things of that nature,

1:31:12right? But Florida is Caribbean. So it's all kind of different types of people that were the Puerto Ricans, Haitians, Jamaicans, all these different people in one melting pot that's having parties and things of that nature. So it was a combination of what goes on in Florida. Anyway, it's already hot. People don't want to have their clothes on in Florida. But there was never where the first group that really made it out of Florida at the time when nobody ever thought of Florida, rapper or Florida, rap group or a situation that was coming from out of the state of Florida could even make any kind of impact. So it was a whole bunch of things that was going on. Yeah, no, and I always assume you guys were from Miami. I grew up in Miami and so like if someone asked me a two-life group, I'm like from Miami. Of course, everybody knows that. And how many people just assume you guys were out of Miami and not originally from California? Right. Well, the funny thing was our first couple of recordings was myself and first-kid eyes,

1:32:15we were still in the military. It was stationed in Riverside, California at March Air Force Base. And we got to Florida. Luke was a concert promoter in Miami. So he reached out to us through the company that we were dealing with out there in California and we came to Florida and seeing what was happening. It was like the first place we had ever went to any place that reached out to us to find out about us and all of that stuff. So we relocated to Miami and just started working an operation from there because Luke was doing good with his concert promoting. And the time, you know, Luke didn't, he wasn't a record company guy. He wasn't even thinking about that. He was just really all of a self-trying to help us out as a unit. But once I got down there and seeing how the wild and crazy stuff was that was in Florida, I took my comedy records and would take all the wild and crazy phrases off of Richard Prior, Eddie Murphy, Dolomite and have the guys wrap around the fact those phrases that

1:33:18I was cutting and scratching and putting it to the beats of the music. So it just totally caught on. Oh, man, Dolomite, avenging disco, Godfather, all of that stuff. That's some, I mean, that is awesome, awesome stuff. I always love the fact that you guys had a tinge of humor and it's cool to see, like, that's you. That was you putting in some of those classic bits, huh? Right, exactly. And that's the thing. We were making it fun or humorous, not overly sexist, but we know that, you know, Florida guys are probably more aggressive than anybody else in the country. So that comes over through the music. So we all know that. That's true. Mr. Mix, that's what I wanted to ask you about. How much where, like, art blends too much into reality and the fact that at your height, at two-life crew height, and especially after the indecency stuff and the thing, after you guys got rid of that and you guys are huge. Like where people thought you guys were more nasty or like, live this life crazier than

1:34:24the actuality of like, I didn't even know you were in the military. Yeah, think about that. That was a very disciplined, thank you for your service, you know. Did they expect, like, when you guys were hanging out, did they expect always for it to be over the top? Because, like, and then you're like, hey, I think what happened is that once you see that there's a niche in something, you know, because a lot of the stuff would go on based off of, we would do like splash down parties on Virginia key beach and the girls would do to skin the wind contest and all these different things. Because at first, we didn't even have no dancers, you know, to accentuate the music. It was always the girls that would come out of the crowd who want to get on stage and show out and all that to where we start putting that entity, the visual aspect into, you know, the album covers and the videos. We didn't have a video until our second album. So, but this is the action that's going on in Florida. But, you know, people maybe in Ohio or this place in that place, they're not in the same

1:35:26vibe as what Florida is. That's true. I think that that's what really kind of took it out of context. Mr. Mix, we're always looking for new events and things to do. Can you describe a skin to wind contest for us, please? What exactly is skin to wind? Just like, if you said what T-shirt contest, I know what you're talking about, but skin to wind, that's near to me. Yeah, well, the thing is, you know, you got two and three and four girls getting up on stage and, you know, everybody wants to be, you know, the queen of the moment. So now the guys go on their manage page and say, hey, you know, they start throwing money and start having a contest. Who's going, you know, you know, show the most? And that shows the most gets the money. There you go. They were doing it. Tom, right, they're down for the beer. Yeah, we may have to borrow them. Mr. Mix, could you imagine the amount of marketing you have done for Miami and Florida and just like a visit Florida, Miami, they owe you so much money because the amount of

1:36:29people from around the world are like, hey, this is like, this is going on in Miami and like Florida. We go there, like you go to any festival in Orlando and they're still playing your track. Yeah, Miami pays. Yeah, the big 808, the Miami's that style sound is still, it's just as popular as it's ever been because it's a brand of now. Right. The thing, the biggest issue that we have as far as the brand is concerned is that a lot of the young people don't have an understanding of its true significance because they may look at maybe a guy like Biggie Smalls or Tupac and Jay-Z, like they're the standard. They've never really been witness or experienced the zone of time for us, you know, even though like right now, you know, two of my band members are going fresh, get ice to China, man, and brother Marquise, they passed away and Luther Campbell is doing his own individual stuff. I still hold up the group on my own now.

1:37:29So it's always a thing to where the young people don't really see us, they don't even see us like they would see NWA because NWA had a big movie. Maybe they didn't have an understanding of what NWA and Ice Shootin' did at that time if it don't be for a movie. So now you got all of the foolishness with ownership things and this and that or whatever for things to move forward, for a movie and stuff like that. I just think the main thing is that the young people, they haven't seen what it is that we really did in its full bloom because we would have more rappers probably want to be in that space and on that page. They just haven't seen it enough. Yeah, well I hope it, you know, I mean it's still popular with us, I'm an old head though. Right, yeah. But you know, hopefully it's still, it gets a second wave. I'd love to see a second wave of this style of like horny beach bass music. Yeah, yeah, I sure need more of that. Yeah, yeah. Now we need the re-book the Frankie Avalan and that Foon the Channel on another page.

1:38:31Yeah, yeah, there you go. There you go. Well hey, if you want to see two live crew, you want to see Montel Jordan again, Anton Loak, and for the likes of my God, you can go to ILoveThe90sTour.com and again they're going to be in St. Petersburg at Furc Concert Pavilion and that is on September 11th. Thank you for the time today, man. We appreciate it. I appreciate you guys. I'll definitely come. I think we're coming in a day early, so maybe I'll come up to the spot and come check you guys out. Yeah, we love that man. Hey, reach out. We would love to do that. Have a great rest of your day, okay? Thank you very much. I appreciate it. All right, man. Cheers. That is Mr. Mix. Could you imagine the parties that man has seen? Oh my God. You know what? I'm going to answer you honestly. Can I answer you honestly? No. Early 90s please. Normally I would say yes I can. No. I cannot imagine. Please. Cell phone. You see what I'm saying? Well, it's like they were full nudity. It's like a true life crew. No repercussions to anything. No cameras.

1:39:31The amount of women that were attracted to true life crew because they were part of true life crew. Like being a good looking woman and a woman in Miami. You're so horny. You can just talk. Yeah, just freaking out. So I'm just saying, I'm with you. I'm with you. This man has seen it. Do you say that? You put that all in the past tense. I'm telling you like five or six years ago I worked a show that was opening for two life crew at a swingers place and consuming. And those ladies were still, they were all poolside waiting for two life crew to come out. Then too. And I'm sure now as well, the guys still see parties. You can't believe it. And so mainstream. It's so mainstream. Yesterday I'm doing a 20 minute 90s hip hop peloton ride and I finished with the explicit version of band in the USA. That's how like there is, you know, it's all like in great in the culture. All is anything else. If you want to be a record's doing right now, I'm not a goddamn fan. Absolutely true. All right, we got to get out of here. We will see you tomorrow.