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I'm not going or watching the game.
To see somebody if they're going to be taking charges,
blocking shots.
I'm not looking for that.
I'm saying who getting buckets.
I didn't think he should have been top 75.
Rules are rules, bro.
Come on.
Rules are meant to be broken, bro.
I will not get tired of being
by what the magic have done this year.
He can't be the best player on championship team right now.
And I said that about him.
I said that about LeBron.
I also said that about Curry right now.
It feels like the coach hates the players
and the players hate him back.
We want to see the ball go through the loop.
What's the object of the game?
Put the ball in the s*** hole.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
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All right, man.
Incredible game for the Boston Celtics
at home against OKC.
They had just recently, only a few weeks before,
lost the tight one to them.
And they got it done, man.
They kind of dominated on defense down the stretch.
They snapped it under 12-game.
Winning Street, Jalen Brown dropped 38,
eight and eight.
31, 31 and eight.
Excuse me, 31, eight and eight.
Tatum had 1912, 12 reps and 7 assists.
And SGA had 33, but
chat and J Dub just, they just didn't,
they didn't have it against Boston at night.
Danny, though, in the picks.
This was our picks game.
Danny with five and 0, Paul and I went two and three.
I went one and four.
I went one and four.
First time in a row.
Oh, you got the winner right.
Oh, I got the winner right.
There you go.
OK.
So, yeah, SGA over his point total.
Brown went over his point total.
Chat beat his blocks.
Actually, he was under.
And Tatum was under his point as well.
So, uh, Chelsea Danny.
But what you think about the game, bro?
Yeah, it was a great game.
I love what I seen from Brown.
He took the challenge.
And this is what we talk about all year long.
Him taking the challenge on SGA.
Now, I mean, yeah, it's J got 30,
but it was a tough 30.
You know, I think down the stretch, uh,
as the only made one field goad in the fourth quarter.
I mean, he got to the free throw line, but
when you're a prime time player and you want to make a mark
and you want to make people say, hey,
we're looking for you to be that guy in these big games.
Brown showed that he took over the fourth quarter.
Big shots.
Big deep.
Oh, it's just a dunk.
Yeah, damn.
Yeah, that was nasty.
And this is what you want your superstars to do.
And that's what we saw.
But you got to take this with a grain of saw.
This is easy for us to say this could be a final preview.
It's Boston better.
Out of the look better.
Well, I understand that Oklahoma was on the fifth game of their
five game Eastern Conference Road trip.
You know, you can get tired.
But it's a good win as a confidence booster for Boston.
Knowing that.
OK, see what's full strength.
And you play the team in the middle of a 12 game win streak.
So these type of wins can get him confidence for the rest of the year
and going into the playoffs like, hey, after that look,
ain't nobody in the East can beat us.
You see what we did to the champs?
We should run through the East.
Solid win, man.
They needed it in the bounce back.
They lost the Minnesota with no energy.
The Edwards, like, you got to get one of these
staple or signature.
Signature.
Yeah, that's what you're saying.
Mind you, I mean, on the flip side of OKC is good.
They've been great.
And it's hard to win 13 games, bro.
I knew we, I think we all knew, like, eventually,
they're going to have a tough night.
They had some tough nights and still won those games.
But you can't have a tough night against Boston and win that game.
Jason Tatum had a great first half.
Still finished with a great stat line.
But the first half, he had like 12 and like, I don't know, six and something.
He had a pretty good first half.
I love the way he planned right now, though.
Yeah, he playing smooth.
Jalen Brown did what he's supposed to do.
Like, they going back and forth him in SGA, like,
give him the bump, pump fake, jump into him, get the N1 free.
Like, they made, you know, even, uh,
Shireman knocked down some, like, they had guys.
Shireman was coming in and pitched, like, they pitched in.
You know, they did what they was supposed to do.
So they had guys step up and show some values, you know,
SGA said just didn't have it that night from his other guys.
You know, some of the guys hit some shots.
But ultimately, just got away and, and, you know, Boston said,
had a really good win and they got to continue that.
They can't have those type of losses.
No more like they did the Minnesota.
But this was, it was a good game.
Was a great game to watch.
It was a good battle and it might be a finals preview for all of you know.
Yeah, I certainly agree with that.
I thought Boston's defense was excellent mostly.
Obviously, Shire, Shire, he's going to do what he's going to do.
But two things stuck out from the game to me.
One is that Jalen Brown
has determined that Boston's not going to be a strictly jumpshoot in team.
And he's going to get down here.
He did.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
To the cup consistently.
And, you know, we know OKC has some as the best defense in the NBA.
Or at least they have the most good to great defensive players on one team.
Something might say because of Wembee saying it's only one that's the best defense.
But Jalen Brown was like, you don't matter who's guarding me.
I'm getting to the cup.
Collapsing the defense is spraying out the shoes.
I was, I love that.
And then the second thing to me and I stuck out is,
I mentioned Chet and Jaydub, like if the thunders somehow don't defend their championship
this year is because they're not getting enough from those two guys.
Those are the two, those are your other two max players.
And I get it.
They got a lot of depth.
But nobody thinks AJ Mitchell's going to carry a series.
Nobody thinks case and wireless or Wiggins or Isaiah Joe or any of these guys.
No, your stars have to show up.
Your stars got to do it and Chet and Jaydub with the other two stars.
And if they don't get it done in the playoffs,
obviously, OK, C could be picked off.
But I, you know, I really enjoyed watching that game.
Another game that I enjoyed watching was the mix at the Hornets.
Charlotte beat them up pretty badly.
The score doesn't indicate how badly they beat them up.
They ended up beating them 114 to 103.
Charlotte, they're trying to snap the longest postseason drought in the NBA.
Last time they made it was 15 to 16.
So that was 10 years ago.
I was in the league last time.
I'm full within the league.
For the last time these guys who made it to the actual postseason,
entering Wednesday's play, Charlotte is deadlocked with Orlando in the Miami Heat
while sitting again behind the seventh-feated Philadelphia 76ers.
I think they could get up there to the seventh seat.
I don't think they're not going to be able to quite catch.
Atlanta?
Not Atlanta, Toronto, for the 60 to completely be out of the plan.
But the mix game was impressive, man.
Like the actual energy that these guys play with.
They're so athletic, especially on the wings.
And their offense is just crazy.
James Lee is just an incredible to me offensive coach.
I thought the mix just, the mix just were a step slow on defense all night long.
Because Charlotte's just their ball movement or selfishness.
Their willingness to get out on the break.
What I like too, when they match up on it,
when they weren't just running their stuff and it was like, hold on.
Brunson is guarding Mal's bridges.
Everybody get out the way, post them up and one.
Man, whoever asked to deal with these guys in the first round.
That might be trouble.
In for some hell.
I'm telling you.
It might be Detroit, man.
That's what we want to say.
To young legs and that the thing about a scary man.
A scary man has nothing to lose.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like a scary man in the fight.
I'm not going to be nervous.
Yeah, you're going to be very happy to beat it.
They're happy to be there and know anything to happen.
If you open it, if you open up a door for them to get through.
And they see it in this first round, especially against an injury-reddled Detroit team.
If they were to make the AFC, I can very well see Charlotte being ahead of schedule.
Beat and Detroit, and getting to the second round.
Because we already know that just making the playoffs is a great year for them right now.
Yeah.
You're out of a drought.
You haven't been there in over 10, in like 10 years.
Great year right now.
Build on this.
But to get to the second round will put them on.
Yeah.
Way ahead and schedule.
I would be incredible.
I mean, bro.
Conk and Nipple, rookie of the year, it should be.
It should clock it.
He's killing, bro.
26 points.
9-14.
Hella fish and 6-10 from 3.
I think the key right now.
Kobe White off the bench, bro.
Huge pickup.
How big was that pickup, Kobe White?
Bro, you got a starting caliber at Gar.
Out of your bench.
And he's young.
Bro, so they haven't been hooping, man.
They're going to be trouble.
Especially as Detroit don't get caged right at the right time.
I know. He's going to be coming off of so much time off.
And then you just drop him off in the playoffs where obviously we know the
intensity gets ratcheted up.
Charlotte is just impressive to me.
Yeah.
Like they're to for me on league pass.
They're a must watch every single night.
So I would love.
I mean, especially with their announcer, huh?
No, boss.
Well, I was thinking about this.
This guy's boss.
Look at this, though.
Look at the Eastern Conference.
The East is better than the West.
I don't care what nobody's saying to you.
Why do you say the East is better than the West?
Dude, listen, I'm looking at 10 teams over 500.
I'm looking at 10 teams over 500.
But when I look at the West, you got the blazing only eight teams over 500.
And the Warriors sort of bringing up the rear.
Yeah.
And the clippers just got over 500.
Right.
Like you got 10 teams over 500.
And then if you want to talk about there's a disparity at the top
from the Eastern West.
I don't think so because a healthy piston teams
can very well play with the Thunder.
A healthy Celtics team can play with the Spurs.
And who's going to be the three-seater older next?
Who the three-seater?
Can they play with the Lakers?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So, I mean, look at the top.
Yeah, I mean, the East is strong.
I wouldn't say they're better than the way I personally wouldn't go there
because I just think the Thunder and the Spurs and the Nuggets
like the overall strength.
I think it's fairly close to what people are saying.
Yeah, it's definitely.
It's definitely close to the situation.
Because like those other teams that we're saying are so strong,
like Minnesota and Houston,
they're not that much better than even like you're saying, like,
you know, Atlanta, Cleveland, Toronto,
like those are solid teams too.
And then you got Charlotte.
They're some.
Charlotte can beat the Wolves in the playoffs.
Those last four teams are definitely.
Atlanta can beat the Wolves in the playoffs.
Here's the two five-seats.
Your Blazism Warriors are not looking
anymore close to the 9 and 10s over in the East.
Yeah. And, you know, as we're looking at the East
Playoff picture and you notice that there's a three-way tie,
eight, nine and 10 between the heat,
the hornets and the magic who are bit,
you're tied for the 10-seat Orlando.
Like, you were thinking about we shouldn't,
we should be eyeing the Easter Carfords finals this year.
And you're tied for the, I will not get tied to being pissed off
by what the magic have done this year.
They might shock you.
They might pull up my Emmy run.
Only thing that salvages their season is a deep run in the playoffs.
It's the only thing that salvages this.
Yeah.
And I don't see that's not in the car.
They have to get at least second round, bro.
That's not in the car.
To salvage it.
Moving on.
Josh Hart had some choice words for our fellow media member,
Steven A. Smithy told him to shut the hell up.
After a latest bout of Nick's criticism,
Steven A. proclaimed that the big trade that landed
McHale Bridges in the New York Nick's uniform
is the reason New York won.
Daniel!
That's wild.
Hart responded via a question from Steve Popper of News Day,
saying, quote, for me, I think Steven A.
As a part-time nix fan,
needs to shut the hell up.
I like the shots, I think.
He barely knows guys that are on this team.
He continued about McHale Bridges, saying, quote, last year,
he didn't have many plays call for him.
This year, he probably has even less plays call for him.
So obviously, there's a mental hurdle he needs to get through.
I think he gets some of that unfair flat just because he's doing
what's asked of him, end quote.
Josh Hart coming to his teammates defense, there, Paul.
Yeah, I like that.
I mean, because you don't like the outside noise from the media.
Like, because a guy like Josh Hart and I don't know him,
it can affect the guy in this day and age.
Guys, they hear everything now.
They're on their social media, they're on Instagram X,
and Steven A. is the biggest voice in sports.
So when he says something, you're gonna hear that,
especially in New York.
And it's like, damn, what do you say?
Do you want to get into a verbal war with somebody in the media?
I mean, he talks for a living.
Yeah, he talks for a living.
So they gotta be able to block out the crowd noise.
And because the media has been known to break up locker rooms,
to break up teams, like, you gotta be able to say,
guys, look, stop worrying about that.
Our goal is still our goal.
Is that the thing you think teammates gotta do?
Talk to me, Kelly.
And be like, don't worry about that.
Just in private, obviously amongst each other.
I think a lot of players in this day and age need that.
Because I think a lot of players are affected by what people say.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
They're looking at the social media.
They don't think fans are killing them on Twitter.
Yeah, I've been around teammates that stuff was said in the paper.
And then you see them the next day at practice, they get it.
It's like, damn, I can tell that affected them.
So it's good that Jarrett's heart comes as the fence.
Maybe talk to him like, don't worry about that shit, man.
Come on, man.
Well, we hear the wind of championship.
That's still the goal.
Well, we don't care about it.
You don't need to be the best player.
We don't need you to average 24 hours to win,
but we need you to make some shots.
Okay, we need you on consistent basis.
Because we need you.
You just gotta encourage each other.
Gotcha.
That's what your locker room should be about.
Constantly encouraging each other,
uplifting your role players and be like, man, we ain't here.
This is our blanket.
This is our tribe.
This is our, what they call it in college.
Your fraternity.
Your fraternity, right?
Right.
Now I feel as Danny, what do you think about it?
All for it, bro.
I mean, public defense of this thing.
It's very key that they have a history and a relationship
prior to being in New York and NYX.
So they can have that conversation, like Pete said,
because when certain stuff gets out in the media,
certain stuff is said, and nobody comes to your defense
or talks to you or talks on a locker room about it,
you as the individual might start to believe it's true.
Like, they might be thinking that too.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, nobody sticks it like, he might think,
oh, they all might be thinking the same shit.
You know what I'm saying?
If nobody comes to my defense,
now you feel like an outsider.
You know what I'm not doing much.
I'm not even more pressure on you.
But when you can have a teammate come say,
you know, encourage you or have your back.
And it's like, all right, cool.
They know what it is.
They know how I'm feeling.
They know what I'm going through.
They're not tripping.
But if it's quiet,
and anybody standing on it, having your back,
like, you might start thinking like, damn,
everybody's starting to feel like this too.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it could go that route.
Then you got a locker room that could be divided.
So maybe I'm doing too much or reading too much into it.
But I see this whole explanation about no plays
and shots and blah, blah, blah.
And maybe he's just,
I see that as like an acknowledgement
that bros underachieving and underperforming.
Maybe so, but he's like,
they wouldn't need to be this whole explanation
if bros was killing him.
He's giving you the reason.
It's just be like, look,
look at me kill play.
Just watch.
He's killing him.
He's giving you the reason why he's not going to play.
He's telling me the way he's telling me the way he's doing.
He's doing what is asked of him.
But bros was not playing that well.
He's getting flat because he's doing what's asked of him.
He's not asked to,
which out expectations of him are different
than what Mike Brown's expectations of him.
Hi.
Hi.
You can't expect the man to score like he did in Brooklyn
if you're not giving him Brooklyn opportunities.
I mean, think about this though.
Can we realistically say like,
what is, uh, when you look at the packet order,
what is Miguel Bridges'
bring up the line?
What is he, is he third, four,
fifth option on this team?
Probably fifth.
When I watch the next play,
is Jalen Cat probably OG
and then probably McKell.
So he's probably fourth.
Here's the difference.
Here's the difference.
Fourth in the score is down to 15 of game,
which is pretty good for a guy that's on my fourth option.
I'm getting 15.
That's solid.
Very solid.
What?
What does people want from him?
Hey, your fourth option is getting 15.
OG's at 17.
He's getting 15.
Cat giving you 20.
Jalen, your fourth option is giving you 15 is super solid.
What is his efficiency?
Because I feel like he's not getting a lot of attempts either.
Like, who's the fifth option on the Lakers?
I'm in the fourth option.
That's the eight in the, what is he giving you 15?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
He's probably at like 12.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying 15 is solid.
When you, when you watch,
when you actually,
40% for the field,
37% from the past.
Actually watch solid mix play.
It's not in the flow.
That's what's not in the flow.
You expect your expectations higher.
It's not that.
I'm just saying like when, when fucking,
what's his freaking name?
The Filipino kid.
Jordan Clarkson.
When Jordan Clarkson comes in the game,
he's just, he's at it.
He's not, like, there's a, there's a,
he's coming into a gunner.
Everybody else is calling gunning,
but he's not gunning.
He's aggressive.
The people he's coming in with.
Trying to make his imprint on the game.
McElbridge, you rarely feel like he's trying to make his presence felt.
He's never been that type of.
It just doesn't feel that way, bro.
He's never been that type of like shooter,
like aggressive gunner.
Bro, I'm not going to go in with like,
get to the rack.
If he came, I bet you this.
If he came off the bench,
his role would be different.
You think he'd be better?
He'd be, he's not sharing the flow with the guys
that everybody else is shooting the basketball.
Well, I will say,
he's probably, he's sharing the flow with Lendry Shatman
and Duce and Jose Alvarado.
I bet you, McElbridge is going to be shooting more
in the basketball.
They could, could use a little bit more like,
hey, man, like set some people up.
You're pretty spot on with that eating thing too.
12 again.
He's there for the option.
I've got the option.
I'm just saying, bro.
I'm just saying,
McElbridge's could have done more this year.
Everybody could hold it.
Why do you think he's maxed out his ability
this year on the nicks?
And it's been a disappointment.
What are you saying is, I think most of the people
are saying, they've lied to you.
Are you satisfied with his performance this year?
No, I'm not satisfied with a lot of their performance.
Okay, but McElbridge's been shooting.
I have higher expectations for even cat.
Okay.
I have as far as expected for cat.
Gotcha.
But again, what I'm seeing and what I know
from being a locker room is,
it seems like they're having some tension
with changing coaching staff.
Okay.
Their roles are very different
when they had to, even Josh Hart's role
is very different when, when Tid was there.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, again, Josh Hart is always making his presence.
He's not doing, he's not doing the same.
He's having a career here.
No, I'll ask you what's better.
He's having like triple double, he's having a career here.
When Josh Hart is shooting career,
he's in the game, the shooting career here.
He's putting his imprint on the game.
40% from 30% from 30% from 30% from 30% from 30%.
He's shooting 51 in 2022, 20% from 30%.
I'll take him more.
No, I'm saying.
I guess I'm in a 50 career here from 3%.
Bra.
What I'm saying is.
He's shooting 40% from 30%.
McElbridge's bro, you can go long stretches of nick games
not know he even exists that he's even still alive, bro. And I think that's why
guys got to go out of their way and defend him in the media like, yo, we get it.
He's a quiet person. He's not a... He's not a... He's not in your face personality.
You know what I'm saying? He's not a... He's not being judged by his regular season.
Let's see what he does in the playoffs. Yeah. Because the next, it don't matter what you're doing
in the regular season. They get to the conference finals again. Go seven. I'll get to the finals.
People don't forget that he gets those steals and blocks like you did last year.
Yeah, that's it. I'm not crazy worried about the next. I think they're a team that's built for
the playoffs. And I think they're going to be fine when there's actual stakes. I think they're
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lead in overtime and overtime game in Minnesota against the Anthony Edwards Less
Minnesota Timberwolves built a 13-point lead in OT and managed to lose that game. Producer
Chris tells me that a 99.7 win probability, okay? And they lost. I think 188 teams in the
history of life. Yeah, 180-something. Have gone up double figures in OT. All of them won
until the Houston Rockets and I'm telling you when I watch this team
and people could say, oh, you being a body language reader or something, Pete. But like, it feels
like the coach hates the players and the players hate him back. Damn, that's what you really,
it really feels like that. Damn. And he may as a one note guy, he's just like a no-nonsense guy
and it feels like his approach is like, I don't know. I don't know, Pete. They're struggling.
Like, if you say in that, I just think I have no bench. They don't got no bench. No, but like, like,
this is the third team that Katie has come to. Mind you, this would be different conversation
if Fred was helping him see now. But you've got to be based on like Katie's greatness.
It's like they didn't get it done in Phoenix. They didn't get it done in Brooklyn.
Now you come to Houston. They were number two C last year. People forget that. They were the
second best writer in the Western Conference. Now, it's looks like they're going to take a
troll of the six C and possibly look like they may go out in the first round based on how their
player is lately. They book that. Just get them out of here in the first round.
Numbers look very similar to this. Let me ask you this. I know the answer already, but let me
ask you this. When's the last time a Katie team over achieved?
Okay, see? Probably a loss when the toe on the line is the bucks. They took the bucks to
seven games. That's the last time it was like, oh, wow, a Kevin Durant team is playing better than
we thought. They played. That's the last time. That's all I wouldn't even say that was over
achieving for them. They took the eventual chance to say that was supposed to be scary hours,
right? Like James? No, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just telling you. That's the last time
we did something KD was involved with like, damn, how they do that? So, yeah, when he before,
when he went to the finals, that was an overachieving year. Oh, yeah, for sure. And then
probably when he was up to the most stacked team in the history of life. Yeah, that was an
overshifting, but he went up through one on Golden State that day lost, but like being up
through one, I guess was like, oh, shit, on Golden State. But other than that, the Phoenix thing
went up in flames. And then you watch a way less talented Phoenix team this year,
completely overachieved with a lunchpale mindset, guys playing hard. I'm just like, again,
it's hard to like look at KD's stats. He's clearly their best. He's still doing it
superficially and be like, that's the guy that's the problem. But I don't know, man, is he cursed?
Is it? It's just these bad outcomes seem to follow KD. What do you think? I mean,
I mean, he got two rings of KB that curse, right? Two five just things. At this age,
you know, he doesn't influence winning like he used to be like, okay, see? He's 38. He's 38,
which is understandable. So like, he can't be the best player on the championship team right now.
And I said that about him. I said that about LeBron. I also said that about Curry right now. They
can't be your best players on the championship team at this stage of their career. They need to play
with somebody that's better than him. And that's why the Lakers look better because they have a
pair that's better than LeBron on there. And that's hard to do. But, you know, as great as these guys
still are, like, how do you say you got to have somebody better than Kevin Durant? Well,
maybe he can join Joker. How do you can say you need somebody better than Steph? Well, maybe
Janus can go there. And then you have an opportunity, but it's just like at this stage, no matter
what his staff say. It's just like with LeBron, they need players that are better than them that
can influence winning because I think they're just out of the stage of their career. It's hard for
them to do all the things necessary to help them win outside of scoring. I'm much, you know,
don't be wrong, but to play devil's advocate here. Basketball is a team sport, bro. He is,
their bench is not given a much. And with the fact, there's problems on the roster.
You have no table setter. You have no point guard. I'm saying it had some injuries, but again,
with Steven Adams, with Steven Adams not being there and Fred and Fleet not being there,
this chain, like those are two important, Josh and Kogi. That's crazy.
Jordan Smith, if any, Smith's supposed to be a good pick up for shooting three years. But he was
missed half the season. He's averaging three points a game again. He played six minutes,
but Katie's having to play. If you play started minutes, he'd be averaged six points a game.
Maybe we don't know. If he started the season, it might be different. But again, Katie's all
having to play scoring guard and point guard. The reason why I had six turnovers, like he's bringing
the ball up, getting trapped at 38. It's a lot to ask of the men. And I will say you may know when
a lot of shit on offense. It feels like the guys are just, it's on them, the kind of freestyle
and figure everything out on their own. Like, I don't understand the Houston offense. Like,
it's obviously, it's been talked about. The clutch offense has been just terrible and predictable,
but just even throughout the flow of the game, like, you know, talking to my man, Motakill. And he was,
he was explaining, they'll run like a great play three times in a row. Get great outcomes out of it.
Fourth time in a row, running. Katie gets a good look. They never run it for the rest of the game,
which I'm just like, that's coaching to me on offense. And so I collaboration with a lot of
things, man. So again, I'm not putting it all on one dude. Sure. You said coaching. I'm saying
this player. He's been very unlucky. I guess, I guess that's what we're calling it. Katie's
the most unlucky guy. As he's got older, as he's got nobody's like Brooklyn. He dealt with
injuries. James was out. I don't know. He dealt with the injuries again. And Phoenix,
he's still on two trips though. He's still got too far. He ain't that unlucky. Yeah. Katie.
He's like, he's top five and scoring the most just just a great cloud. He's always following Katie.
And he's like, I don't think it's the media impact. I just think they're not able to overcome the
roster in deficiencies. Yeah, because that usually comes with like next man up or you said great
coaching. Right. And I'm not taking a shot at email at all. No, I think Amy is a great coach.
She's a good coach. But there's ways. Groups is you got to fill the holes with the coaching staff
and other players on the roster to go with to like, you know, pick up Detroit,
lost K Dennis Jenkins is fucking hooping right like they're fine in ways. I say it's through it.
He go get Paul Reed. You're gonna say like they have other guys. It's not just coaching
it's also players, but they have other guys that are stepping up. I would say what I would say
Chris is not getting that right now. He's that a team that was more united would be able to
overcome Houston's deficiencies. Yeah, they're just not like, okay, see.
It is what it is. Yeah, I'll let you. There's a disconnect. Yeah, I'll let the people figure out
what's going on with Houston and Katie's bag. But that's also first year, like it's their first year
kind of together. I mean, there's a lot of rumblings coming out of Houston for real. Like there's
a disconnect between Katie and the young guys. People saying there's a moodyness that the guys moody,
where we heard that before. Literally every single other place he's ever played.
And then the thing with the with the tweet with the tweet. The fake tweets. The fake
Twitter. That was a rumor allegedly. He was on another account. Talk about it.
Who knows who knows if that's something or not. But I don't know if that has any effect on what's
going on in the game or the deficiencies of the roster. Like you said, let's get into our favorite
segment of the night. That's the draft Kings picks Friday night hoops. Y'all the Hawks will be
playing at the Celtics. Hawks won the last match of 17106 in January. First of all,
guys, what do you think is going to win this one? Boston got to win this one. Hawks are rolling.
Hawks are rolling. No, you know what I like though right now. I like these type of games at the end
of the year because these types of games that get you ready for the playoffs. Like, you know,
you play OKC in a great game, but you got the the the surging Hawks to one young and hungry,
like you got hot teams coming in. This is measuring sticks going to the playoffs.
And so I like these types of matches late in the year. You know, a lot of teams is playing teams
that are tanking. Yeah. You know, this is where you like, all right, we about to get our
our rotations down. We going to the playoffs. Then you know, when you get them last 10 games.
Important. We building now. We got to get hot right now. It's under, under double digit games.
For sure. No, absolutely. This is not going to be a blowout. This is going to be a good game.
Nice to test the between six to nine points. I think it's going to be decided by
Jalen Brown average in 28. Does he get over under 28? Damn. I think he goes over.
I'm going to go under some of the street guys. He's making his MVP push.
I'm going over. OK. What about Jason Tatum over under 21? That's that's high.
That's what it was last time though. That's why he went under the last time. I'm going to say he's
going to go over this time. I'm going under. I'm going over. I'm going over this time. He
right there. He's this close to getting this rhythm. Jalen Johnson over under seven and a half
of six. He damn. Yeah. That's tough one. I thought he gets like seven assists. I'm going over
for him. That man. I'm going under as well. And how about points over under 22 points for Jalen
Johnson over points for him. All right. What about you, Paul? I'm going under. I give me the under
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fellow podcaster, former player. Pat Beb is going viral for saying that Damien Lillard is not a
hall of fame. It's former teammate as well. It's former teammate. He played with that.
In Milwaukee. Let's watch the clip of Pat Beb in his hall of fame prognostication.
On the bus, like Pat Beb is Damien Lillard Hall of Fame.
Hell no. Like, I love Damien. I love Damien. I promise you, I love Damien. It's no
ill will, no beef with Damien at all. But like, hall of fame is like, that's like, first off,
I feel like we, we, it's too many people getting hall of fame. You feel me like, I feel like it's too
many people getting hall of fame, right? Let me start off with that. Second off, like, hall of fame
has to be like a combination of like obviously points rebounds assist has to be a combination of
wins. It has to be a combination of playoff appearances and has to be a combination of
championships. And right, like, if we get, like, how are you going to say no's to know the
D-rolls can MVP and say yes to Damien Lillard? You know what I'm saying? So like, like, you feel me like,
if you get a chip for show, right? If you get a chip for show, but like,
like, scoring a lot of points, I'm like, you feel okay teams? You feel me like, I don't,
I don't think that gets you into hall of fame. Like, hall of fame is like, that's your whole
basketball career. It's not one thing you do. It's college high school, all the, all the things.
So pull up, if you pull up Damien's resume at the time, all star, bro. He's on the 75th
anniversary team. So, so listen, I'm, I, the resume is a 2013 rookie, 3.10,
being all NBA 71. Again, I mean, I'm with Pat Bev somewhat on this, but I do think Damien's
a whole like, I don't even think it's even a question. I would say this though. Like, winning has to
matter, right? I, I, I think winning matters. I don't think Portland under achieved in
Dane Lillard's time there. I think they had pretty wack ass teams. That's just why he begged to get
out of town. Like, for sure. He asked for that trade. He played there as long as he could.
In the playoffs, this guy is a killer. Every playoffs, this guy is like coming through and clutch
moments for his team. So I'm with, I'm with Pat on the fact that James Harding, who gets to
the playoffs. He's like, Oh, where the hell was Damien still? He's a Hall of Famer too. Like,
they're both Hall of Famers. I'm not saying James Harding is not a Hall of Famer. I'm saying,
if Damien got to the playoffs, and it's always worse, this guy's delivers, bro. Portland had
limited teams. I don't even think this is even a question to me. I think it's a question.
I believe, I agree with Pat. And the fact that there are a lot of guys getting
considered for like, there used to be like a very high standard. Whatever the lowest guy is in
the Hall of Fame right now. He's above that. He's probably he's like 30 miles above that.
Do you know Roger Tony cool coach? Come on, nigga.
That's what I'm saying. I agree. Some of those guys probably like the Hall of Fame was like a
prestigious thing like a very exclusive. Dennis Johnson played on great teams. Was a contributor.
That man was not a better NBA player than Damien Lillard. I agree with you on that. I'm not saying
Damien is not a Hall of Fame. I'm just saying certain got this should be a better, oh, more
speculation. I don't know. I gotta see who's at the bottom of it. I will say this though. I don't
think he should have been top 75. Who do you think I like? Who got snubbed? There's two guys
that got on that. They said he A.B. won a championship at that point. Sure. Dwight didn't get in.
Sure. Tony never got Tony didn't get in.
Again, I, you know, I think Damien is great. I think I think the world of the day.
You think Tony Parker is a better NBA player than Damien Lillard. I think he has more winning.
He's one four fucking NBA two. And he has finals MVP. And he's been MVP conversations.
But bro, they call the Spurs organization. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you the primary option.
Like bro, he was the greatest. They're known as the greatest organization. I understand the
difference. But that's why I said winning. In terms of a massing talent. In terms of playing
with Hall of Fame coaching. That's what I said. Tony's winning is not just Tony. If you put Tony
on the blazers, I don't know. It wouldn't be as good. What a shit. We would don't know. I know
his one fucking one. I think I do know that. I know he won a lot of championships. And he's around
for a long time. Yeah. In fact, he was on that team. He was in MVP conversations. Don't
have time. He was with five Hall of Famers. The Spurs are the only five Hall of Famers at one
time. Danny, the Spurs are known. They're executives are known for being the best. I don't want
to speak with you yet. I don't. Tony Parker is the beneficiary of that. So the all those guys
you talked about. So a lot of the guys are in the top 75. The reason I got that they got winning.
They had good teams. If they stayed on bum ass teams, they probably wouldn't be in the top 75.
Probably part of reason why Dwight wasn't in the top 75. I think Dwight definitely
at his best, you could say was a better player than Damien Lillard for sure. I'm just saying
go buy. We can't say like this is how you're going to buy better players. Not about better players,
but the reason why you influence your team and culture. And yes, I think
Dwight had a bigger influence in Orlando than on winning. They went to the finals.
Yeah, even his resume. He's got three deep as a player. No, I agree about. I agree about
Dwight Howard. Better player to me is not the argument. I don't disagree with that. When you
talk on the top 75 Hall of Famers, it's resume. Like player is great on his resume. There's a lot
of a folks I think is best players, but they ain't nowhere near some of the other guys that
like have the resume. I disagree with that. There's a lot of people argue Kyrie is better than a lot
of people, but his resume is nowhere near some of these resumes. People are wrong about Kyrie.
You don't think he's better than a lot of people? I don't personally. I think Kyrie is one of our
more underrated players. To be honest, Kyrie is amazing in 2016. He's never done anything else
in the playoffs. Nothing. You think he's better than Tony? No. Hell no. I don't think Kyrie
Erwin is better than Tony Parker. No. I think he'd be in my room. You have to.
Bro, Kyrie was really good in the finals as a player. One fucking season of his life.
He's never done anything ever again in the playoffs. Nothing, didn't we? So now you're talking
nervous about the player anymore. You didn't realize that. No, bro. We're talking about player skill.
The best players play good in the playoffs, bro. Performance. So you don't think Kyrie
was performing in the playoffs? No. Hell no. He's been terrible outside of 2016. Go look it up, bro.
Bro and Dallas went to the finals. He was good until the finals. He was okay, bro. That was a
look-a-thing, bro. He was up and down. Remember when he went to Boston? That disaster, bro.
That was in the finals. A lot. No. He's not going to be playing in Boston. Yes, bro.
Kyrie. He got hurt. He got hurt. He was hurt most of the playoffs. He's hurt.
People overreact. I'm just saying there's a lot of people that are skilled in the town.
Intestically he's not better than that. Hell no. I'm talking about Tony. Bro, he's not in the same
category. I'm talking about Tony. I'm saying skill wise and player wise. You talk about
players. Some people look at certain players and say, yeah, A.D. is definitely more skilled
than any of Lowell's Biggs, but his resume does not speak the same value as at the White
Hours. I mean, I would argue that the White House is just a better player when he was in his
front in the A.D. I think A.D. is so much more skillful. Maybe he's impacted one of the
most. Yes, to me that makes you a better player. You impact one. I'm not a bad guy.
I'm talking about your skill. What does skill have to do with anything? That has to do with how
what kind of player you are. A.D. can shoot jumpers. He can shoot jumpers. He's more skilled.
He has more NBA teams than Kyrie. Pro. Yeah. His resume is not even close, but my thing is
I'm saying as a skill, people would say he's definitely more skilled than a better player than
more skill. How does he affect L.E.L.L.s? That to me is like your resume. How do you affect winning?
I'm with you in that. That's a different conversation. When I'm thinking player, I'm thinking
of people talking about player as your skill. You're just talking about skills. Who's the most skilled player ever the
best player ever? Who? Is Jordan the most skilled player ever? Yeah. Yeah. And he applied it to winning.
Your skills have to apply to winning. If you just have skills in a vacuum, I don't understand
why I should care. I mean, there was a time when you said Mike didn't have no bag. So how's
he the most skilled fucking player in the history of the game? Well, the finding bag in 2026 is
different. That's my point. Everybody's way more skilled now than they were back then. Well,
a bag being something else. For sure, there's different types of bags. Give me wrong. Today's bag is
different than back in the day, but these guys are way more skilled now than the guys back then. Why?
I'm saying some of these guys make standstill jump shots better now. But like, again, I like I think
the big man are more skilled. That's it. Yeah. The guards, even the guards are like more of this skill.
We didn't have a bunch of step backs and euro steps. That should then come up like mine who started
doing it. But it wasn't as slow step. Like, my fuck has got bags. They're thinking who's to figure that
out. But let's because we got to move on. But so you think it's not foul that bad. No, I think
James the Hall of Famer. I'm saying I agree with him. So you say this foul. I'm saying that the
he's out of bounds. The threshold or the boundary. Whatever it is stipulation. There's a lot of
guys getting in that probably like too many days. I wanted those guys though. No, James, I wanted
those guys. Well, the question is, I don't think the question is the Hall of Famer. I think the
question is, is your first ballot hall of Famer? Oh, there you go. Yeah. Absolutely. Because like,
he's a Hall of Famer. But what ballot? Yeah. There's a difference when you're first second or
third ballot because eventually with your resume, you'll get in. Maybe I'm tripping, but I remember
Hall of Fam being like, you had to have a good college high school and an NBA career. Like,
when you had some MVP, some defensive player of the years, all stars first team. That's
the only thing you had to win. Not all of them. You had to, you had to have one of those on the list.
Like some championships. I didn't have to apply the game though. No shit, because he didn't have
any. He's got a bunch of individuals harder Hall of Fame. Yeah, he just made Hall of Fame. He's
harder, not better than Dame, bro. And he's easily in the Hall of Fame. He's straight up.
Yeah, Dame is in the Hall, bro. He's a Hall of Famer. But, you know, I guess.
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Is it when like scoring titles and then like that? Vincent, when there were no individual
words. They never won individual words? Nah. No, Tracy was just known for losing in the
final. Did Vince get a chip in dollars? Nah, Vince got a chip. No, Vince played a long time.
You've been to the finals? Vince went to the finals? Yeah, Vince went to the finals. Vince was
the finals with the nets? No, he wasn't. He didn't go to finals with that team. He never went to
the finals. Also like when you when Dan was at his best bro like when you were defenses literally
catering their whole fucking attack to stop in the studio. Like literally. Like you had to
devise your defense like, what are we doing about this dude? I don't doubt that. That's sort of
me. Just that's a lot of people have to have that, but they're not whole famous. No, there's not
Danny. No, it's not. So all those young guys right now are whole famous right now? They're
books all the time right now. Defenses don't go like nuts trying to stop Devin Booker bro.
Bro, any top scorer player but like any top scorer people are going to try to stop you.
Devin's is in a panic bro. Anthony Edwards. That's different. Yeah, that's yeah. Anthony
Edwards is a special player. Yeah, special players. Okay, special players. They're already
Hall of Famers right now. I mean, they have obvious hall of outbarring some crazy injuries.
Yeah, Edwards is not in the Hall of Famers career into today. No, no, I'm not saying his career
and it's I'm saying there's a lot of guys that does what he's doing right now. I mean, he said
Brandon Roy like, bro, these guys just like I don't want to take on this hall of Famers.
Take on this hall of Famer if he ended today. Yeah, he could. Yeah, like even you can even throw
maybe Lucas Hall of Famer into today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you know guys like that. I just think
those guys have Hall of Fam trajectories. I'm not saying, bro, I'm not saying there's times where
nigga Austin Reeves is the guy that they're trying. You know what I'm not comparing. You're saying
Devin says they stop anybody as a scorer. They're going to try to do that. If this is the only
player on the court right now, we're going to stop him. We're going to make everybody else try to score.
I think it's different, man. What defense is like go completely out of their character to stop
what you're specifically. Okay, I mean, you know what I mean, but you know, I guess
Dave's not that special to you. I didn't say that. From the start, I said, Dave is fucking
great. Putting extra words in my mouth that I'd never said. I'm just trying to get to the bottom
with a tape. All I said was is that I grew a pat. There's a lot of mofuckers getting in.
I feel like the thing should be high. Yeah, I'm not a disagree with that. I never said, Dave,
I said, Dave was a Hall of Famer. I mean, for getting off time, he's already been named to the
75 best players. There's no way he's not all the time. Yeah, he's a hundred percent. I disagree
with that one. You're you're you're click farming, but you know, we fell for it. That's the one
thing I did disagree with the top 25. I thought like the guys that guys I got snubbed, like Tony and
Dwight should have been it. I think the white is definitely somebody who has a major case. I like
and when he when we talk about him retiring, I was like, man, I think he's unappreciated when he
was at his best before the backstuff. And then he fought like he figured out how to be
helpful after the backstuff. Like, yeah, you didn't think Tony had a good argument for Top 25?
I do. I don't think he's got a bad argument, but I, you know, I think he does have a great argument
for it. He's definitely, you know, he's definitely going to be one of the guys that I remember.
But most guys that are in the top 75 were like number one options to like, you know, Tony is
great as he was on a great team. He's like third or fourth option. Until the very end, unless you
were just unless he was just dominant, like, like the reason like he's not better than Steve Nash,
Nash was the guy. Yeah, I'm with you. The entire engine. Yeah, he was the engine. Like,
Chris Paul. Chris Paul is the engine. Yeah. What a, you know, him and Tony used to go at bro,
Tony's resume. It's not about they resume. Now, his Tony's resume. Take away the championships.
You just look at them as players. Chris Paul is way better than Tony Park. It's not even close.
We love Tony. You said at the end, like some people are putting on Chris Paul as a top
number. What he was doing. He was a number one option. Yeah, he took that mantle from
Timmy and even my new for sure. Yeah, I agree with that number one option. Look, I'm a parker fan,
man. No, I love Tony's one of my favorite players. That team said Tony's one of my favorite teams.
But like, let's be realistic. Guys do carry in jobs, bro. Yeah. Like, like, he didn't have to be
great every night. These guys got to be great every single night. Every night, 82 games. He didn't
have to do that. He didn't have the pressure of that. He had to show up and talk to the media.
So it's his fault that he was playing in a good system. No, it's not his fault. No, but like,
if he don't get the same weight, if he was better, he would basically, they would have put more in
the show. It's just kind of the same argument. Jason Tatum, like, Jason Tatum, you get the same,
there's no argument. No, I'm not saying Hall of Fame, but he doesn't get the credit he gets because
of how good his team is, right? He doesn't get any. Jason Tatum, right? Last year.
He's never an MVP conversation. He hasn't been better than those guys that won MVP's.
This is the same argument that people have. It's like, you're not giving him enough credit.
He's done so much to this point in his career, but they're faulting him for having a good team.
No, he's not getting faulting. He's not playing as good as Joker in SGA, so he don't get MVP.
That's it. That's it.
My body's disentated. I'm shouting out to him. Glad he's back.
Yeah, I ain't here. We got next.
Oh, man, Adam Silver standing on business. I actually quite enjoyed this. I'm not going to lie.
Commissioner Adam Silver says that while he feels bad for Kayne cutting him,
who should be all NBA this year, he's not going to change the eligibility rule from the 65-game
threshold. He believes the 65-game rule works as intended, and Kayne is just an unfortunate
victim. Can this new rule have a negative effect on players like Cees, for example?
Vaughn has 21 all NBA selections. If this rule was in effect, he would only have 16.
It's still impressive, but you can see how he can change narratives.
Yeah, that's a big difference about career stats.
A big difference. Do you think the rules in that positive are negative, baby?
Probably negative. Because again, you go back in time, all these guys didn't have.
I'm sure there's some teams that you probably could have made, Pee, if they didn't have positionless.
Yeah, I'm for sure. What do you know what I'm saying?
Like, I could have made it all defense teams who wasn't by position.
If it was by position, I've been on like seven or eight yards.
Like, you kind of screw them up with the old saying, like, now's the scrum, the new guys,
but some of the old guys are definitely, there was a time where, who was it to make all
different team or didn't make any because Matumble was there? Was it Pat Ewing?
Yeah.
Like, he ain't got nothing because Matumble was, you know what I'm saying around or something like that.
But now it's positionless. You can have two bigs.
So when you start changing rules, it kind of changes a lot of history and certain guys like
resumes to cut like in the future too. But I think there should be a, I think there's a
great period where they said you had to get at least 62, I think it was.
Yeah, and he's falling under the 66.
He's one game short of it.
He's at 61.
Demby's the Brakes, that is.
He's at 61.
You know, I'm glad he sent them business.
It's like if you fall one game short of the playoffs, we don't just say,
oh, you only came one day.
We don't just put you in the playoffs.
Good analogy, but it's very different.
Very different, bro.
You didn't meet the qualification line.
I'm with you. This is very different.
And I agree with you, Danny, because the guys do really care about it.
Obviously, like Cade, the union is like speaking on his behalf and they're doing this public stuff.
And I understand it, but to Adam's point,
they put this rule in because Marfuckus was load-managing.
They want to see stars play.
So like, I'm sorry, the rule is happening.
Intended consequences.
But he has a real injury.
And he's only one two-game shy of those.
It is what it is, man.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Can't, can't move the goal.
He got his all NBA last year, so he made his 45 extra mil.
Okay.
He's straight.
He now lose a money off of it.
He just literally, it's just an accolade.
He's not getting too much.
You don't think he would get more money if he get another
old-tea-first-him-all NBA right now?
You don't think he had a bonus?
No, it was contract.
No, that's it.
He would get more bonuses from other spots, like other places you don't think.
Well, I doubt it.
I'm sure they would have made that public.
Whatever his Nike deal is, you know for damn sure
there's something to make in all of it.
Like, maybe he got to take that up with Nike.
Oh, wherever he's with.
I don't know who he's with.
You know how to take it up with Nike.
Right.
It's tough.
We can't just win the rules.
Yeah, just win the rules.
Come on, bro.
I didn't change it to the rules.
We love UK.
You have to make sure you win the rules.
You got 61 games.
I feel like you're within four or five games of the thing.
You should be able to be considered.
No, get out of here.
Rules are rules, bro.
Come on.
Rules are meant to be broken, bro.
They're breaking in every day.
Oh, come into silver.
Can you make an exception for me?
Nah, fuck that, man.
The next rule is made in a standard.
Players union collectively bargained it with the league.
Let's go.
Let's run.
That's it.
I hate rules of meant to be broken.
Lot of rules have been bent for people, bro.
We haven't had the break up.
This is what forcade kind of gets.
Fucked up.
Fucked up, man.
Uh.
Fucked up.
Drey Montgomery making some news on his podcast.
Said that he quote hated and absolutely
loved the MVP self-promotion from San Antonio's
person, a victim, Webanyama, on Monday night.
Yeah.
I saw this.
This is, oh, sorry.
This was at a media availability, not
on the Drey Montgomery podcast.
He said quote, when he said defense is 50% of the game,
and he was like, oh, no one realized that?
No one realized that 50% of the game we play is on that end
of the floor.
Yeah.
Jay Williams says there's more of an indictment on NBA media.
Do you think the media offense plays too much importance
on offense?
No.
I do like more, I would like more respect on defense.
More so when it comes to how they referee the defensive,
the game, if the referees allow defense like, or the league,
a lot, then people will give more respect to defense.
But the game is predicated toward the offense, like,
it's helping them.
And I saw this run.
It was a solid little rant.
Obviously, it's coming from a defensive player.
He's like, yo, y'all don't realize he hated it
because it took for him to say that for people
to realize how important defense is.
But he loved that he stood on business.
He knows that if you don't say it, people won't look at it.
You know, like, if you don't, I guess, what is the word
when you try to, for yourself, you try to promote yourself?
Advocate.
You don't advocate for yourself?
Like, they won't realize you're, he said,
Evan Mobile, he didn't, until he said something,
they didn't look at him as defensive player of the year.
And then he finally got looked at in that conversation.
You know, what's that thing as a shame?
You mean Marcus Smart, when he won that defensive player
of the year, he was lobby-
Campain and like, you got a camp, which is great.
You shouldn't have to campaign for yourself
when it comes to certain things.
But what he said, again, we talked about it the other night.
It was true.
It was a very good argument, very good, you know, stance.
But, yeah, it's defense.
I don't think no one realized it.
But during, I was like, oh, people, like, I can't believe they,
they're not really taking it.
People were saying, like, it's a profound thing.
Was it really that profound?
Why is it profound?
Because he said it?
It shouldn't be because he said it.
Y'all should know that defense is a big important part
of, like, important part of the game.
What should I get?
But again, I think it's more so how the game is played
and refereed.
If we referee it differently, people will respect defense more.
You think fans are too over index on offense form,
like they only care for offense?
Well, me being an NBA player now that I'm a fan,
I'm not going or watching the game to see somebody
if they're going to be taking charges, black and shots.
I'm not looking for that.
I'm saying who good buckets?
Like, that's what I want to watch, what I want to thank for.
The best defensive player in college, defensive player
of the year might not make it to the NBA.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Like, we want to be entertained.
We want to see the ball go through to who?
What's the odds you got to get?
Put the ball in the goddamn hole.
That's what I want to see.
Just because you slide your feet good
and you block a couple of shots, I'm not even,
I'm eating popcorn, I'm like, what are you talking about?
I asked for a shit, man.
I asked for a shit, man.
I asked for a shit, man.
Like, you want to see good basketball?
There's no way you going to see something like that.
He just took the charge?
Oh, good for him.
You're going to be like, damn, look at that.
Stay the white three.
When you see some silly shit happen,
you're like, what kind of fucking defensive is that?
Even when the media talks about LaLuca,
he don't play like, they still harp.
Like, people are going to call people out
when they don't play defense.
What is really bad people will notice?
They don't have to be really bad.
If you score in a lot and you're not playing both sides,
you see a great transition play or still,
like, you want to see good basketball.
You don't want to see people play bad defense.
Like, you were just saying, dream on.
It just reminds you also, the competitor,
and you're like, yeah, I was going to let this one
for like a score that is easy.
He got 50, like, bam, get 83.
You're like, yo, this is not going to let him put.
You are appreciating some defense.
You will see good basketball.
I definitely appreciate defense.
But I'm just saying, like, I'm not coming here
to see how many blocks somebody get
for charges and shit like that.
Shit, when be you going to see?
Yeah, I mean, that's because he's affecting
all the spectrum of the half quarter of the whole school.
You want to see everybody at the best
what they can do, like, this guy is good at this.
I'm going to see.
I'm so garbage.
Who can you come down to miss five straight shots?
You blowing me.
Yeah.
Like, you blowing me blowing.
I'm like, I might leave the game.
Like, tell this guy to stop shooting.
This is for me, like, I read Dre Mond's thing,
and it's just like, see, yo, I don't appreciate me.
That's just all I see Dre Mond doing right there.
Because he's such a defense first guy.
Of course, come from a defensive guy.
It just feels like Dre Mond finding a way
to kind of promote his own abilities,
via what, what, when be said.
Yeah, shock, shocker.
But I mean, again, I think we all want to see,
we want to see good basketball.
And a, and a part of good basketball is, is good defense.
We want to see defense.
We want to see offense.
We want to see good, like, actually offense score
against good defense.
I don't see defense on my highlights every night.
It's just to me.
It's just harder to find out.
We should put together all defense of highlight real.
Oh, shit.
I want to, that's right.
You just say that for that block.
I did go.
I did it.
Let's look at that shit.
Hey, you see the difference.
Defense office.
He didn't say that on that block.
Look at that.
Give me that shit.
Just give me that.
OK, look at that.
Give me that.
Yeah, I don't want to dunk with all shit, right?
Bro, you see the difference?
That was nasty.
But the transition from both makes the play special.
You do offense and defense.
Give me that shit.
Wow, that wasn't the same intensity as that one.
Give me that shit.
Now, that's dangerous.
When Scotty punched Dale in green, you should have,
the glass, I thought it was fucking AI.
I said, oh, shit, the fuck was that?
When LeBron made that block, you didn't jump up, like, oh, damn.
I did.
Bro, in the finals, I thought, I think he had a layup.
I said, oh, he got that shit.
That was gross.
I said, yo, he went and got that shit.
He said that with Greek freak, took that lob of finals and dunked it for the win.
He was like, oh, give me that shit.
I just think Wimby, you know, he selfishly making his own case and shouts to him.
But, like, bro, I'm sorry, nobody's going to care about defense as much as offense.
Right.
Not as much.
We can care about it.
It's not going to be the case.
It's definitely should be appreciated more.
No, definitely.
It's going to get appreciated.
But we all know.
Give me that shit.
We came to, we know, that's why the rules are what they are.
It's good toward the offense.
For sure.
They just need to be less geared.
That's all.
Yeah.
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