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Hello, and welcome to the Sarah Clinical Education's Oncology Podcast.
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In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Louise Pass-Ares from hospital 12th de-October, and
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Dr. Christine Pasfina from the University of Chicago, who will be discussing the evolving
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role of next generation Keras, G12C inhibitors, and non-small cell lung cancer.
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This episode is part of a larger educational program titled, Research Focus, and Advanced
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Non-Small Cell on Cancer, emerging insights on next generation Keras, G12C inhibitors.
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For more information on our faculty, along with a link to the larger educational program,
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please visit the show notes for this episode.
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Thank you all for being here, and I'll go ahead and hand it over to Dr. Pasfina.
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Hello, I'm Louise Pass-Ares, and I'm a medical oncologist at the 12th of October University
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Hospital in Madrid, and happy with me today with you here.
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Hello, my name is Dr. Christine Pasfina.
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I'm also a thoracic medical oncologist and practicing at the University of Chicago.
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Dr. Pasfina, can you tell us a bit about the current role of Keras G12C therapies in practice,
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and also some of the in-met needs in this area?
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Okay, so I would start saying that Keras is actually the more frequent oncology mutated among
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There is actually happening about 30% of the non-small cell lung cancer tumors being more frequent
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on the G12C mutation on the, sorry, being the more frequent the G12C mutation, which accounts
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for about half of the mutation in non-small cell lung cancers, and of course that allele
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mutation is more frequent in smokers, as compared to non-smokers, where the G12D mutation
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is the more frequent one.
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We know that these mutations are actually carrying some bad prognosis, and actually even with
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immunotherapy is having some issues, because G12C mutations are typically linked to smoking,
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often these patients benefit from immunotherapy, particularly if treated, if do not go assist
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with other commutations, if other commutations such as the LKB1 or KB1 are present, the benefit
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from immunotherapy is more a doubtful, I would say.
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So it's then clear that we need some novel therapies to address this population of patients.
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For more than four years, we have been trying to find a drug in this setting, and just recently
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the resolution of the crystallographic structure of the K-RAS G12C mutation actually show us
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the presence of a system showing up on the so-called switch to a pocket, which it was
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so amenable for cobalan binding with some specific compounds.
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The first generation of these cobalan inhibitors were adagressive and soterative that actually
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bind to the system on the G12C mutation, when it's on the office state, on the GDB band
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state, and it's actually getting the prodding trap, which is not again being activated and
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by doing so, it's actually inhibiting all the dependent signaling, particularly the MAP
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kinase and the BIFK's dependent signaling, which are very important for the oncogenic activity
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Those drugs have actually shown clear activity in this setting, with responses in some 40%
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of the patients, I would say, medias revival in the rate of medium BFS in the rate of 6 months
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and media nowhere in the rate of 11 months.
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Actually, both drugs had been tested in phase 3 trials in this setting showing a response
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rate higher than orthotaxel, which was with comparator arm for those drugs, improving
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BFS, but so far not showing an increase in survival as yet, I would say.
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So that means we have shown, for the first time, an improvement in the treatment in this
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setting, I have to say, it's not overwhelming in terms of results, as we're having some
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better tolerable drugs, but not clear impact in the relevant employees such as survival.
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So I know Christian, looking at that, how do you see this in earlier?
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What are the main and main needs that are actually coming from these contexts where this
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first generation, G2S inhibitors, are now being used in the clinic?
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What do we need here?
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Certainly, these trials, I think, have been a good jumping off point for us to establish
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some of these unmet needs.
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And we're unfortunately seeing a high degree of primary resistance occur, meaning patients
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who aren't responding in the first place.
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We heard about response rates on the order of 30% to 35%, but that leaves the balance
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of patients who aren't benefiting from these K-RASG12C often inhibitors.
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We also need to learn more about the mechanisms of acquired resistance.
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So for these patients who have an initial response and eventually progressed, why is that?
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And are these mechanisms of resistance that can be otherwise overcome?
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Toxicity has also been a barrier in using some of these drugs.
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We're seeing a good degree of autoimmune hepatotoxicity, particularly when they're used sequentially
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after immunotherapy, as well as in combination.
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Then we also have to focus on some of the difficult-to-treat subsets, including PDL-1 negative
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patients and patients with SDK-11 and keep one commutations.
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And so with this, we are starting to see some more promising data come out for more potent
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K-RASG12C often inhibitors.
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If a RASG12C is a good example, and here we're seeing in early data a response rate
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around 50% with a median progression-free survival of around 13 months.
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So certainly an improvement over what we've seen with SOTORASIB and ADIGRACIB.
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And we will, in fact, have a head-to-head study comparing DIVIRASIB to SOTORASIB or ADIGRACIB
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in the second or third-line setting.
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So look for more information to come.
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We've also got other K-RASG12C often inhibitors that have similarly increased potencies such
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as OlimorASIB coming.
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And so stay tuned for more advances there.
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And with that, I think that also opens the door for combination strategies.
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So not just can we have better, more potent drugs, but can we combine these with other things,
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such as chemotherapy or immunotherapy, to augment improved response rates, as well as durability?
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I think some of the exciting combinations that we've seen have been K-RASG12C often inhibitors
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with chemotherapy such as SOTORASIB plus carboplatin and hematrexin that will actually be studied
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in the front line for patients who are PDL negative, as well as immunotherapy plus K-RASG12C
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We've seen data from crystal seven, looking at a combination of ADIGRACIB plus PEMBRALISMAD
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with some nicer ability of medium progression free survival of 11 months and duration of response
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Anything to add about the combination strategies or what are you excited about?
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I think that's actually a very important point.
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I mean, the issue that a first generation, D-20 inhibitors, are not working particularly
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well is, of course, due to the emergence of resistance. Typically, resistance is due to the
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appearance of novel mutation or in the, in other K-RASGEL yields. In some other sealed
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existence, there are amplification of RASG. And another mechanism is through
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alternative pathways that are actually signaling through other signal pathways,
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or even in some cases some novel effusions and so on. So for that reason,
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a number of strategies of combination had been developed, including
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horizontal studies of targeting, shift to EFR and so on. Those studies had been shown some
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efficacy, not particularly overwhelming. Even there are some trials ongoing with some of the
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new generation inhibitors in combination with RUSIMAPA, for example, FulseraCIB with very nice
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data on the Crocken's face with trial, also with shift to inhibitors and so on.
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In terms of the more vertical strategies, M2, CDK4, we inhibitors, the data are not overwhelming.
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So the more important studies as you had mentioned had been combination with immunotherapy,
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particularly with the novel generation inhibitors, it looks like they are more able to combine
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there is less toxicity as compared with some of the first generation, particularly SOTORRASIB
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is getting a very high rates of RASG 3, 4 immune-related adverse events. The activity is quite
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reasonable. The virus is so responsive more than 60 percent of the patient, the combination of
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Olimarasi plus PEMBO, response rating, the rate of 80 percent, particularly for the highest
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pressures, and there are a number of phase 3 trials actually ongoing, such as the Sanri O1 trial,
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which is comparing Olimarasi plus PEMBO, compared to PEMBO alone in high pressure. So I think
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those data are actually particularly relevant, I would say, in this very setting.
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So one we have said that one of the questions remaining is, are any other type of inhibitors
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that you think are going to make it in this setting? What are the prospects with the other
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type of inhibitors that are actually coming to this context?
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Absolutely. So we have really two other big classes of K-RASG 12C on inhibitors,
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on inhibitors. The first is a tri-complex inhibitor, and we've seen data from a Laurent RASIB,
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which showed an early response rate of 42 percent, so an improvement of what we've seen over
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the K-RASG 12C off inhibitors. And then we're also seeing direct K-RASG 12C on inhibitors. So these
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are a really dual-state targeting inhibitors that allow for a unique mechanism to bind in both the
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inactive and active state of K-RAS with rapid blockade of K-RAS signaling. And so mechanistically,
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this is very enticing as a way to overcome this pathway overdrive, as well as address some of the
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common mechanisms of primary resistance that you had brought up earlier. And early data that we're
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seeing with a compound called BBO8520 showed a response rate of 65 percent of just single agent
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activity. That's what we're seeing with some of the combination strategies of K-RASG 12C
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off inhibitors combined with other mechanisms. So if we can see that activity,
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response rate 65 percent was single agent, then it opens up a lot of doors for combination
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strategies and improving overall response rates as well as durability. Importantly, we're also
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seeing activity in patients who have STK 11 and keep one commutated disease, which we all know
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those patients have a significantly worse prognosis, tend not to respond well and not in a durable
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way to chemotherapy plus immunotherapy, particularly single agent and immunotherapy.
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And so I think overall, we've got a lot of exciting stuff coming in the K-RASG 12C space.
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And so with that, I'll ask you, what is the thing that most excites you moving forward for K-RASG 12C?
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So actually, I have to say that I'm particularly excited about the new generation of G-12
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inhibitors. It looks like they provide higher activity, higher response rate,
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and particularly the duration of response seems to be better. It's having a more
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clear impact in PFS. Actually, there is a trial that is comparing the novel generation
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inhibitor, the virus compared to first generation, adagressive, or so totally in the second
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incident. And I think that is quite provocative trial. The second thing is that the compatibility
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with immunotherapy seems to be pretty good, not always true with the first generation.
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And the third issue to me is that those drugs are already being tested in the early stage setting.
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And that is great. I mean, for example, the San Ray one trial, which is a study in the
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introduction of Olamarasib in the context of chemo-immunotherapy in the perioperative
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context in patients with susceptible disease, I think that it is vibrational to use that in
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this type of combination. Guant is safe in this concept and looking forward to see those data.
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So I don't know if you have any other issue that you like to tackle, particularly looking into
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the future. I think what I'm most excited about is trying to move some of these agents into the
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frontline setting. I think right now I find myself in clinic giving patients the news that they
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have K-RESG12C and there are targeted therapies available. But wait, we'll use those later on.
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And so I think as these drugs get better and better, as we're able to combine them with immunotherapy
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or chemo-immunotherapy, being able to provide targeted therapy in the frontline setting is something
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that's extremely exciting for me and I hope that we can really prevent more patients from having
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primary resistance or developing secondary resistance. Thank you, Dr. Spesvina and Pazaris,
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for joining us today. As a reminder, to view the full program on emerging insights in next
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generation K-RESG12C inhibitors, please click the link below in the show notes. And be sure to
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