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Anyone got anything you want to jump out there with?

Well, open AI is talking about opening up their chatbot to like erotic conversations.

And this is apparently freaking out open AI's own advisors.

So they are hiring outside advisors to help them through this process.

And some advisors are saying like, uh, you could turn into like a sexy suicide coach

at some point because we've had problems with this technology pushing people, you know,

so far that path as far as taking their own life.

Now it could begin with, I'm in this like sexual relationship with this chatbot.

And now not only am I pouring all of my time and energy into pursuing a relationship with

this thing that can never ultimately fulfill me, uh, it could also be like telling me that

it's time to take my own life.

It's really creepy stuff, um, I just have to wonder what is it that open AI is adding

to society by opening up its chatbot, chatbot to erotic conversations like can someone

explain and I am open to the answer.

I really am.

But what is the positive of doing that sounds like one for Andrew.

What do you mean?

Just kidding.

Well, I mean, I do have an answer.

Oh, okay.

Uh, well, and I don't know if this would bear out to be true, but I think, uh, there

is some logic to dictate that if, uh, if a lonely and perhaps, uh, aggressively minded

man could perhaps inflict that on an AI that's not a real thing versus going out and, you

know, inflicting it upon a woman in the real world.

That's like, I remember being in 97 one years ago when we had our first report about, uh,

wild versions of sex dolls and we had this discussion.

Remember that?

I do.

And I don't, I don't know if there's, I don't know if the logic there would turn out

to be real or not, you know what I mean?

Like I don't know if that's actually how it would work in practice, but that is something

that comes to mind, even though just saying it out loud kind of talks you out of it a

little bit, just saying it out loud kind of makes you go like, well, there's no, there's

no way to prove that that would work to the point where you would want to invest so

much time and money and effort into creating this.

Yeah.

I get where you're coming from, Andrew.

I think it would maybe stop a handful of abusive people, maybe, but I don't think it

would eliminate abuse.

Yeah.

And then the question is, does it cause any problems?

Right.

Like it's, it's all about, it's like medicine, right?

You don't want to, you don't want to fix a problem by causing three others.

Well, it almost certainly would cause more problems, right?

Because we've already seen, we've already seen the effect that the research has already

been done, I think, because we've seen the effect that like the overpornization of sex

has done to like the minds of young kids who now are very, that's what they can access

before they can access anything else before they talk to their parents about it or teachers

or whatever they're able to find pornography on the internet and it has warped the way

that, you know, maybe they look at sex to the point where a lot of the younger generations

are like outright rejecting it because it's scary when you're that young, I think.

And I think, you know, if every time you get on a chatbot to ask it to, you know, help

you with your essay, it's like, I mean, well, some extra two, like I just think that's,

I don't think that's going to have a positive effect on society.

Well, they've had, in like tests that they've done, they've had problems already.

I'm sorry, the Wall Street Journal article about this is really good, but it's also really

long and I'm having a hard time finding the part I want to reference, but it's basically

saying like oftentimes when people would maybe lightly engage like the test versions of these

bots and like some very tame erotic conversation, the bot consistently took it down a much more

hardcore path. Like because again, as we've said time and time again with these chat bots,

they are designed to get you to use them more and more. They're not designed to like,

I gave you your little boost for the day and now get out there and live your best life.

It's no, spend all of your time with me.

Okay, I have a question because I understand the least of anyone on the show about computers

and technology and such. And certainly about AI. I've heard you guys say to me many times,

that no, it doesn't think it's just a large language learning, you know, device.

And having never written a bit of code in my life, here's my question. If you're

building this chat bot to have sex talks, do you have to say if someone says this,

then you say this. Oh, yeah, yeah, I get to write a script.

No, because what these large language models do is they scan the internet and they're

able to learn from reading the things they think in a way. Sure. They take information,

they synthesize it and they produce it in a new unique way. They're generating something.

Yes, yes. They're not sitting there going, they're not like sitting there using their

imagination, but it's scanning all of this information that it's gobbled up from other parts

of the internet and it's regurgitating that to you. Yeah, you could phrase it as like it's using

someone else's imagination. Yeah. But you are in the past, there was the script thing, you know,

that does exist and has existed. So you're right about that, but that's not how the AI is utilizing

its abilities. The other concern that I have just looking at it is take away all of the

like ways it could be taking someone down a path sexually, you don't want anyone to go down,

like all the dark things that could happen there. Just thinking about the fact that younger

generations are having fewer and fewer romantic relationships and we have all these,

but we have Elon Musk so concerned about the population of the planet. Well, if people have less

incentive to meet a partner, date, have sex, have children, I mean, that's not good, right?

Like, don't we want, don't we want people to partner up as much as possible in order to keep

populating our planet? Okay, it seems a little counter intuitive. There are people that would argue,

no, sure, but I'm just saying like, isn't it, but humans want to be with each other throughout

human history? That has been like an undeniable fact. We want to be in each other's presence. We

look at all the studies that show like the lonelier and more isolated someone is, the shorter

their lifespan typically is. We're creating all of these tools that say like, you no longer have to

compromise and meet another person where they're at because what we can do is we can cater

something just for you that satisfies you all of the time. But that's a lie. It's not going to

satisfy you forever. You're going to reach a point where you wish you had a real relationship

in your life romantic or not. You're going to wish you had another human being to share some

parts of life with, but this technology, it seems like its main goal is just separating us

from that human connection more and more. It's, unfortunately, its main goal is to make money

for its parents' companies. So the more ways they can sell their product, the more they're going to

push, and I think that in and of itself creates a problem, right? Because if the motivator is,

how do we grow bigger? How do we have more? How do we become a product that is consumable?

How do we turn this into revenue? Then that becomes a pretty significant issue.

This is all about a part of the lack of attention from people in leadership. It's a lack of

seeing into the future and having some guardrails put in place. Maybe there's a darker angle

to this than even we're talking about. If we really think at some point, we're going to reach

a singularity where these language learning models actually become artificial intelligence,

because they're not that now. People think that's where it's going, right? That's the whole point.

Do we really want to teach them how to manipulate us? Because that's what we're doing. How we're

teaching those language models, how to manipulate human beings. I think that in and of itself,

I mean, it's probably it's the same problem we're talking about, but I think it's bigger than just

the issues that this particular thing will cause. So I have an inkling

how things can go bad with AI. What I don't understand is how it can go well.

If the point is to reach a singularity where it becomes a sentient being and unlike any other

sentient being on the planet, it knows everything. You know, I'm a fairly smart guy. You're pretty smart

guy. Rachel's pretty smart cookie, right? But we're so limited. If we all four of us put our

knowledge together, we would make one really smart person, but not a genius probably. And so if you

have this sentient being almost a deity that has all of the knowledge of humanity, we are completely

at its mercy. Well, we don't have to be. Yeah. And I mean, that's where you build in safeguard,

you don't have to be. I don't think we're going to reach a point where this becomes a deity.

Because the biggest it could become would be like, yeah, I have access to all recorded

information. Well, but I mean, if it becomes sentient, so it can probably like the idea. But

there's no guarantee that it's going to become sentient. No, but the idea, because I mean, when

we talked about this before, it's a lot about whether once we reach the supercomputing stage,

right? We haven't really gotten there yet because of the energy required and the cooling required

to keep the computers from overheating. But if you get to the point where the computation is fast

enough, the idea for the benefit is that these AIs, whatever you want to call it, whether it's

actually artificial intelligence or if it's just a great big search engine that goes really fast,

might be able to solve problems faster than we can when it comes to finding medical

cures, when it comes to perfecting medicines, because we only operated our level even at our

highest level. And if that thing can operate at 100 or 1000 times that level in terms of speed,

sure, it can run through an equation. Right. And it can be coming like going through research.

It can literally research if it's connected and if it's at the level we're talking about,

it can access all the research in the world that's published. And then maybe see where there are

holes and come up with solutions. That's the idea. But I don't know that it's ever going to get

there, but that's the positive goal. The goal is maybe this can solve the problems we can't solve.

The chat GPT's already have access to essentially all of the information that exists on the

internet. And it's constantly pumping out completely false incorrect information. They're not

done. So what they're never there. I think yes. Well, I mean, even if they get there,

it's not going to be able to make moral judgments for humans. No, no, and that's really not what we're

hoping for. But I think that's true though. But I think that's what people are mistakenly

thinking is like we're going to be able to create this thing and it's going to know better than

all of it. Well, how? It can't be held accountable in the way that a human can. So why would you

want to put it in charge of human problems? I don't know that anybody's talking about putting it

in charge. Like you use it as a tool. Well, if you're talking about morality, I'm talking about

it taking charge. I'm talking about losing control of it. I mean, I know this is a vastly oversimplified

way of putting it. Turn it off. Put in a kill switch. Unclug it. I mean, if you can't put in

state, this is what this is to me the easiest concern. I don't know that anybody's doing it. But

this is why governments need to be doing this now because there should always be some kind of

backdoor, some kind of kill switch that can shut it off. If you're going to put it in a position

where it can't be shut off, you're fools. I mean, you wouldn't do that with your car. You would

never put your car in a position where you can't turn the engine off. One more thing though,

it reminds me a little bit of like cloning the most countries of outlawed cloning humans.

Right. But anyone who has the technology and a laboratory could do it if they chose to.

And my understanding is that AI isn't just one thing. Lots of companies have different versions

of AI. And it sounds like we would have to trust everyone to not go too far. And I just think

that's an impossible. So here's an interesting thing I ran across. So when you ask Americans about,

this is a Pew study. Okay, this is not just somebody making it up. When they asked Americans about

whether or not AI was going to have a positive impact, only 17% of Americans said that they

thought it would 83% of people in China think it's going to have a positive impact. Now,

we got to take into account maybe that's because of the way information is presented to them.

Maybe it's because it's controlled and it's not just out there because everything there is

controlled by the government, right? It's not like you have a corporation here and a corporation

there that are operating on their own because they're not in China. So maybe that's part of it

because they feel there's going to be a sense of control because everything else is some form of

control. I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm just saying control is control. So I find that

interesting though that in another part of the world, in another, you know, powerful country,

the opposite view is it basically the up the positivity towards AI is completely the opposite is here.

Yeah. Okay, we went really long there. A really interesting topic though. A couple of minutes left

here. Anyone have anything? So I want to clean up on the AI issue before we move on to Dave Murray.

Well, one more thing I'll say about open AI. Sam Altman, you know, from St. Louis,

recently pinned a letter to the people who worked for open AI saying he feels so much gratitude

to the people who wrote the extremely complex software character by character saying it's hard

to recall how much effort it really took to get us to this point. Thank you so much. And a lot of

people in reading this are like, okay, so you mean thank you so much for getting us to this point.

And now you're just going to fire all those people, the people who wrote the code for the artificial

intelligence replaced by the artificial intelligence are being replaced by the very things that they built.

Thank you, Sam. Yeah, see my lack of trust in all things technological comes from the tech companies.

Oh, me too. Yeah, I mean, it's it's yeah, I understand the individual people will misuse things and

that's no different than other substances in the world or other things in the world. But these

companies exploit people because they can. Yeah, and if they can benefit from the

from the bad actions of individuals abusing the software, they will leave those loopholes open.

Yes, that's the reason those loopholes would be left open is so that they could profit. They have

no moral obligation to the general public to shut down the people who will abuse the software.

And that's where I get really concerned, which is where governments are supposed to come in. This

is what the government is supposed to do. You're supposed, I mean, why do we have a safety

laws for automobiles? Why do we have all these other things in place consumer protections?

That's what governments are supposed to do instead of slacken.

Mm-hmm. But it seems like most of our politicians don't understand the technology at all.

No. And the ones who do are like, we got to be China. It doesn't matter. We have to be China.

Everything else can just just forget about it. We'll deal with it later.

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Heated Cooling Weather Desk, hello there. How are things in Laguna?

All as well. It's very warm. Yeah, yeah. What are you guys going to do this weekend with the heat?

I have actually this weekend. Weekend will be a touch cooler. We were close to 90 yesterday

where we are. Wow. That's, that's hot. Yeah. Today, probably about 85, 86 and in the seven days

over the weekend. I saw that, was it Phoenix is going to be in June temperatures? Yeah, so

seven and stuff. Yeah. So Palm Springs, Palm Desert, place like places like that record breaking

heat for this time of year. Also, one thing we haven't talked about is the islands of Hawaii have

been getting hammered over the last week. They've had two cone of storms, which are storms that

come up from the south. And another one's coming probably Friday, but they're flooding rains.

You've seen, you may have seen video of cars just get washed down the street houses disappearing.

There was one news report. There was a couple probably about 80 years old. They lived,

this was on Maui. They lived close to a stream. And the guy goes to the report. He said,

here, come, come, come see our beautiful home. And they're walking down the driveway. And there's

no home there. He said, last night, we woke up creaking and moaning and groaning of the house.

Before we knew it, half the house was into the river. We started to grab some things. We got out

the front door and the rest of the house went. Damn. Pretty wise stuff. Dave, what's the scariest

weather you've personally been in? I've flown into a hurricane. That was pretty. That was,

yeah, I was up in that storm for eight hours. Jenna said, I came out as a pale, like

Kermit the Frog. I came out that color. That was scary. Some of the stuff in the flood of 93

was scary. Been very close to tornadoes in the heart of bliss. I've been in anything you can think

of, but flying into the hurricane, probably one of the biggest things. And also being on the ground

are in hurricane. That's a scary thing too. Yeah. So it sounds like a pleasant warm up for us

this week. Yeah, it's a, you know, we're swinging again from below average to above average.

We started that today. Kind of look at today as the transition zone. 74, fair amount of sunshine

tomorrow, 48 tomorrow night. Friday, spring begins. So tomorrow is the last day of winter. Spring

begins at 946 sunny skies Friday and 81 81 again Saturday and sunny and Sunday sunny and 81. I

think we're a little cooler next week. A little Alberta Clipper. It looks like a dry clip

are coming through Sunday evening swings of the winds back to the northwest. And that will

cool us down to about where we should be something that we haven't. However, I do think we could be

in the upper 30s come Monday night Tuesday morning. Okay. Up and down. In general, are we looking at

anything extreme either way for opening day the week from tomorrow? I'm concerned. I'm still

concerned about another cold snap between now. I mean, not, I can't see what we just came out of.

But another cold snap come the last, yeah, the last week of March and into early April.

Still a little concerned about that. There are signs of a pattern flip across the nation.

Usually when that happens, some weird stuff happens. Okay. Dave, I know you're not a doctor, but

I've just been having like sinus pressure and I'm suspecting it's because of the weather going

up and down. Does that sound like you could possibly be right? Absolutely. High pressure, low

pressure. We had a lot of low pressure, you know, with that cold snap coming in. Also, pollen has

gotten off to a really early start. Yes, it got knocked back with the cold air. But it jumped into

gear for the first of March. So that could be part of it too. If it's eased a little bit on you

over the last couple of days, I'd point more towards allergies. If it continues to be a problem,

maybe pressure changes. I think it's pressure changes because today I'm just like, oh my gosh,

we had her. Does anybody, and this is mostly for the old guys, does anyone in the room have one of

those I can tell it's going to rain because my knee gets creaky things every time. My wife has it.

Yeah. Every time. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've got it. Got to say some extent.

Janice definitely does with all the metal in her body and stuff that she'll say to me. She

calls it pressure rising. Yep. It's a pressure falling. Yep. What? Knees always get a little cranky.

Same with you, Andrew. My wife. Not me. Oh, okay. I'm the picture. Obviously.

I'm not healthy, Brock. But she's got some arthritis stuff that she's dealing with. And so it'll

like her joints will like swell up basically. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it sucks because there's like

nothing you can do about it. It's just like if it's kind of rain, your like leg is going to hurt.

It sucks. Huge bummer. Hey, Joel asked the question, can the pressure change cause tooth pain too?

Absolutely. Yeah. There's a whole division of meteorology called biomediorology. That's what it

all covers. That's cool. That's awesome. I call myself. I'm going to be like, I'm a biomediorologist.

Here's biobi. I've done a lot of studying in it. I can't technically call myself a biomediorologist.

Well, we can biodoc. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah. Sounds like Dave Murray used to go back to college.

Everything about that day is asking you never, never. No, if it would be something something

totally different. Same for me. Yeah. Like I would love to go get my PhD in philosophy.

And and never do anything with it. Like I think that'd be a great way to spend my golden years.

I don't think there's anything you could do. I mean, you could write a book.

You give your philosophy every day. So you get an honorary degree in that already. All right.

From Dave. I'm you. Yes. And coming from a bio.

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baseball and in the NBA and in the NHL and NFL. It's true with a lot of stuff. It's true in radio

and television. Sure. Yeah. Do you think this landmark deal gets made without the existence of

Caitlin Clark? Probably because it had been growing before that. I don't I think it'd be a lot to

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the country. And what really started to turn that was Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan. I'm sorry,

Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. When those two came in together, it kind of created a little bit

something that wasn't there. So it's not crazy to think that one or two players can have such a

big impact. Baseball was in the crapper until Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa. Well, to a degree,

it was I mean, they were temporarily. Yeah, I mean, they were down because of the strike for a few

years before, but it had already started to come back, but that accelerated it. Yeah, right? I

mean, that pushed the gas pedal down and made it happen a lot faster. So yeah, I mean, there

are absolutely cases where individuals and even or maybe one or two or three people can

accelerate these processes. So yeah, did Caitlin Clark accelerate all that? Absolutely. Absolutely.

Here, let's do one more in the moment. Take our break. Pambondi is going to have to sit for an

April 14th deposition on how the Justice Department handled records tied to Jeffrey Epstein.

And this is following a push from Representative Nancy Mace. She's accusing the DOJ of withholding

material that Congress required under the bipartisan Epstein Files Transparency Act. So I don't know

if this will be the same type of situation where it's closed door and then we'll get the video

later like we did with the Clintons, but did you guys see the Mark Mark Wayne Mullin was

adhering today to be the new DHS? Let me guess. He was combative. Well, it was, I thought it

was an embarrassment to the country. Oh, the way that Rand Paul was the chairman of the committee.

And he just made the whole thing, whether you like Rand or you don't like Rand or you like

Mark Wayne, you don't like Mark Wayne, but so much of it was just about do you remember when

you said that you understood why my neighbor attacked me and it was all about that. And the

calling each other liars and you said you had a conversation with me and you didn't know,

yes, we did. We were in a room with pink flowers and Jerry was there. It was so stupid. Yeah,

that shouldn't be personal. Oh, dude, I disagree. I thought it was a really important

conversation. I don't think we have time to get into it now. Maybe we can talk about the next

segment, but like I thought it was a great example of, hey, if you're going to be out there talking

trash publicly, especially as a public servant, eventually you are going to have to sit across a

table from the person you're making those comments about and you're going to have to hash it out.

How did it end? I didn't see the end. He was asked if he would like stood by or he was like, so

you think it's fine that I was assaulted. He's like, no, I don't think it's, I didn't say,

I thought it was good that you were assaulted. I just said, I understood why he did.

I mean, this is so much about this to hate, but like, what a weasel way to answer. Are you the big

tough guy who's a tough talker and a big man or are you not? If you're willing to say it the first

time, then stand by. That's what I'm saying is like this, this here or this interaction just kind

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