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No, I don't know what it is.
I don't know how time to think about that.
I'm not cheering hard.
It's ridiculous.
The sports time.
Bird Breer is here for the hour.
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Jimmy, you are a former police officer.
You have something to say about Tiger Woods.
And then going after the medical records.
Yeah, guys, real quick.
I just want to say I listen to you guys every morning.
I respect the heck out of you.
I love listening to the show.
Thank you.
Just long story short, I'll be very quick.
I was a cop for eight years and a hamster.
Laws can vary, so I'm not saying I know everything.
But they're going after his medical records to help build their case
if it goes to court, which we all know it most likely won't.
Because on scene, you need probable cause.
It's a much lower threshold than court.
They're going to need beyond a reasonable doubt.
And Tiger Woods wasn't drinking.
So he didn't do any other like blood tests or urine tests to show
that he had drugs in his system.
So they basically apply for a search warrant
and has to get approved by a judge.
And they just want to show that he takes these drugs daily,
which it just helps build their case in court,
saying he was on these drugs that he takes every day.
And you shouldn't drive when you take X, Y, and Z.
That's all I wanted to say on it.
And I understand you want to be protected as Americans
and everything and so do I.
That's why it goes through the system.
And a judge needs to approve it and all this.
But it is a touchy subject, but that's pretty much why.
They don't go up to the doctors.
They could care less about that.
That's not on the doctors.
But that's all I wanted to say, guys, really appreciate you.
All right, Jimmy, thank you.
Yeah, I'm not that kind of makes sense.
Like if you just wanted to prove any,
didn't sit meant to any blood test or anything else.
And like he said, it wasn't like a roadside,
you know, sobriety check because, you know,
you're not able to smell the pills or anything like that.
If they could, if they could get the information that says,
okay, he filled a prescription the day before,
for, you know, 40, the hydrocodone or whatever.
And we searched his residence and there were 20 of them.
You know, you can reasonably assume that he's already taken 20 of these things
so far in two days afterward and there you go.
He's impaired.
My understanding is that he broke the law
by not submitting to the test in Florida,
that there is a relatively recent ruling
that if you don't submit to the test,
that you are guilty of whatever, that's my understanding of it.
I mean, the cop would know better than me.
I don't have any issue with the cops.
I don't want to talk with his driving around.
I'm just, it seems like it's a misdemeanor DUI
and I don't know, it just seems like a lot to go through
to get the guy's medical records.
But, you know, I don't want to talk with his driving
any more than anyone else does.
He can do all the pills he wants.
I just don't, and I understand how he got addicted to him.
He's had 45 surgeries, almost literally.
So I can imagine that he's very addicted to opiates.
But he's getting, he apparently is in Europe
getting a drug that I've been told by many
in the community, that he has gotten a drug called
it's a hallucinogen that is only available
for medical use, it called iBegaine.
And it is available
a psychedelic that is available
than they use for treatment in Europe.
Which I always think is interesting when they combat
a chemical addiction with a chemical.
That's like a mind altering chemical.
I always find that interesting.
Like a hallucinogen is a very heavy out of mind experience
which seems like where you're going after one whole
chest to have another pop up.
Yeah, it's like I told you I read the or listened to the Matthew Perry book
and at the end of the book, I'm like this guy was going to die for sure.
Like first of all, that was the case.
And second of all, if you give that guy ketamine,
all he wants to do, and this isn't just the way his brain works,
all he wants to do is get out of his brain.
Right.
Like he just wants that rest, that vacation from himself.
And if you give someone a way to disassociate,
it's not like they're going to go, wow, I had a really good experience.
That was nice.
It's going to want to disassociate constantly because that's the goal
is that you want a vacation from yourself.
And when you're fighting something with another,
like it's not like an SSRI or something like that.
Like that doesn't just subtly change his things.
I mean, this is a monitored psychedelic experience.
Like this is supposed to be like a whole scene.
Like you know, like you're really going through it.
And so, and you know, ketamine is a disassociative drug.
So like when you take that, it's really serving the same purpose
that the other drugs did just to get you out of yourself,
which was just going to go down the same road with the new drug
that you were stuck on with the old drug.
I just think that yeah, like if you have access to something to get you
out of your own mind, and it's given to you,
it's just a different way to reach the same goal as what you're saying.
Exactly. And then, and, and then that becomes.
And then when you have access to that,
you're going to want that. That's all.
All right.
And just very quickly that LA Times did a story on this last year
about I began and how it's already, they've already done studies
with, you know, war veterans, NFL players,
Brett Farve reportedly tried it to try and get him over some of the stuff
that he was dealing with.
There was a lot of this stuff involved with the gym mercy thing.
If you guys remember the big Washington Post story,
where like the treatment he was getting was all of what you're talking about,
you know, I've heard her say never got sober.
Right. Well, and, but they kept treating him, they kept treating him.
And he had to, there was like that high-end treatment center in Arizona.
And then there was, I can't remember the Washington Post story was,
and I know you guys talked about it on the air, right?
Like it was like one of the most incredible pieces of journalism,
I think of the of sports journalism, at least of the last decade.
And it detailed like blow by blow how all this happened and how
what you're talking about was done like at a very high level with him,
where they kept treating his addiction with something else
that was going to get him addicted.
And he never, never got off of that path.
And I know someone's going to go like, I began or whatever,
it's not an addictive substance.
And I get it like it's not a physically addicted substance,
but it's when you have that, like when you're like a Matthew Perry or like a gymmer say,
like when you have, and I don't know if Tyra Gerwood's just because of the surgeries,
got addicted to opiates and it's not.
And he's just physically addicted and it's going to take eight or nine months of like
tapering to like get off of it.
Like that might be the case.
But for someone like Matthew Perry whose goal was, I can't stand to be in my own head.
I need to disassociate.
I need something that gets me out of my own head.
The best way to put is a vacation for myself.
And you give someone access to that and then go, okay, you got to do it this time.
And now you got a way to week to do it again.
They're going to find a way to get it again.
And the way they'll justify it to themselves is they'll go, well, the doctor gave it to me.
So this is necessary for my recovery.
And then they'll just start doing it until they die, which is what happened to Matthew.
It's actually really interesting because I did, um, you guys remember a couple a few weeks ago
when I was in Ann Arbor, um, and I did the story of the Michigan linebacker.
And it was like, I remember talking to people about bipolar disorder.
And wait, can you explain that?
I don't know the article.
Okay.
So I did a big story.
There was a Michigan linebacker who basically vanished in November.
His name is Ernest Howesman.
He was a captain, um, all big 10 linebacker.
And, um, there's too much to explain here.
But like, basically, he was, um, both his parents had AIDS.
He was born in, in, in, um, is born in Africa.
And both his parents, um, diagnosed with AIDS.
He was one of 22 children, like, was adopted over here.
And, um, so like, came over here and, um, you know, grew up over here and had
basically undiagnosed bipolar disorder.
Thought it was depression when he was in high school.
Um, went through all of this and went back to Africa, um, you know, about a year ago.
And went there to, to basically drill water wells and, uh, or to dig for water, dig water wells.
And like, founded it as his calling, then the manic part of him took over
and like, thought like, okay, if I fix this, then I can fix the economy over there.
And kind of like, just got so wound up in everything.
And so anyway, it was about a big piece of the story.
It was like, I had to learn about like bipolar disorder and, and, and, and, and writing it.
And, uh, it's like the way the brain works.
And like, somebody explained to me, it was like, so like with bipolar disorder, the thing is,
like, you can medicate it.
But the problem is is that like, the depression is really low, but the manic side is really,
really high. And so the reason why it's really hard to medicate people who have it is because
they don't like being level. And so their brain is always chasing the manic side. And so like,
being level, being like a, like a person who doesn't have like a normal, like level person,
a normal, like a regular baseline. That's not good enough for them. And so they're chasing it.
And so like, it, like I learned about like how your brain chases these things. You know what I
mean? Like, and so it can be a certain high. It can be an escape. It can be whatever it is. But like,
it was, it was really interesting reading it because, I mean, this guy, uh, anybody can,
you can Google Ernest Hausman. Um, this guy disappeared from the Michigan football team
during Ohio State week, basically went back to Africa, then came back here, decided he was,
decided he was quitting football was going to enlist in the military, drove 21 hours straight to
go to Oregon to enlist in the, in the Air National Guard, flipped his car, an hour short of
reaching or of reaching the base. Um, and then basically decided he needed to go get help.
And there's more way more detail to it than that. But he's going to be in the draft now. And so
he's trying to, he's been meeting with teams over the last month. And I was the one who kind of
had the story on it because nobody had known what happened. And I'd worked with some of his people.
And so in March, I, um, so March, I went there and I sat down with him, spent time with them,
talked with his family, all of that. And, um, you know, he went through a pro day and now,
you know, we'll see what winds up happening. But it's crazy story. And it's just sort of,
you learn different things about the way the brain, the brain works. And it's like exactly
what you're talking about. It's funny because if you just look at the way the brain has been studied,
it's so far behind, like any other part, like if you have a problem with like your, uh,
colon, though, like look at your colon. Yeah. If you have a problem with your brain, they ask you
how you feel. Yeah. Like if you, like your colon, you don't go like my, my, my, the anatomy of the
brain doesn't lend itself to like digging in their root and around and saying, Oh, here's the
problem. Even with this valve here. Yeah. You know, they could see Tee, they can't, they can't
detect that until after someone's dead. Right. And so the, you know, I've heard people and I'm
sure there's going to be a million therapists that are pissed because I don't know what I'm talking
about, which is true. But I've heard people say like, you know, in the future, they're going to be
able to like actually not, you know, cut your head open and study your brain, but they're going
to be able to scan your brain and be able to more logically or, uh, with, you know, credible
information that's not just based on the things that you tell them, like actually what's going on,
which would be helpful for people. It might solve some problems. Yeah. But, you know, for what,
the entirety of man, there's been a stigma around spoken around there. So maybe they'll start.
And I guess they are. So there you go. And I mean, you know, it's kind of wild that you, I mean,
there's now, if they would have told you at 1992 that you could fly over to Europe and they
would give you some strong hallucinogen to get you off drugs, you would have been like,
there's no way a doctor is doing that. So it might work. But, uh, you know, this is where we're at.
We're kind of throwing things against the wall. We've, it seems like as a society, we've acknowledged
these problems exist now. Well, it's like the de-stigmatization, the de-stigmatization of drugs now,
like where, okay, like mushrooms, like the stigma around, like mushrooms, for example, when
like we were teenagers was, well, that's kind of a hard drug. Now it's like used for treatment,
you know, like so I think, yeah, that stuff is, that stuff is really, really interesting.
Yes. And it's, uh, it's, it's interesting how little we know, which is, uh, the true with a lot
of things. And I'm the first to admit, I know less than anyone. So there you go. That's my two
cents. All right. Albert Breer is here. He is very close to Diana Rossini. He can't stop defending her.
If you look around the internet, it's too much really. He's doing her a disservice. No, I'm just
kidding. But he does know of Rable and he knows no Rossini. And, uh, we can talk a little bit about
that. We can talk about the draft, uh, all kinds of stuff to talk to bird about in just a moment.
It's never changed. It's never changed. It's the same thing over and over and over and over
and over. It's just never good. It wasn't funny the first time. That bumper noise me and it's me talking.
I like that one. I like it. Oh, all right. Well, maybe because it's me. Yeah. And I hate myself.
It's, uh, Berk Breer is here from MMQB. Uh, Berk, uh, well, if you don't know, uh, so, uh,
Sonoma, Sonoma, Arizona, Sedona. Sedona. Thank you. I'm so, uh,
Sonoma. Where's that? That's a place, right? Yes. I think Sonoma. Sonoma is where I'm stored.
Yes. I was thinking Sonoma. William Sonoma. Is it a place? I thought Sonoma is also a place.
Sure. Who cares? All right. It didn't need to be corrected in the first place. Let's talk
about that for 10 minutes. We'll find all the different cities named Sonoma. I'm not positive. It
needs to be found for the city in California. I'm not, thanks for not sure that none of this needed
to be done, but none of you had just been able to say Sedona. This could have been avoided.
Yeah. Again, it all comes down to my fault. But listen, um, let's say this in Arizona,
there was a very romantic resort and Mike Vrable, who's the coach of New England Patriots was,
there was photos taken of him in Diana Rossini, who was a NFL insider for the athletic.
And they're interlocking fingers. They're sitting in a hot tub. And they are doing this and that.
And there were allegations of impropriety on Rossini's part. Both of them are married,
but that's a, because little consequence to the public or to the athletic, you're allowed to have
an extra marital affair and keep your job certainly. And Rossini and Vrable denied it.
Vrable, a flippantly denied it, saying it was ludicrous and laughable that people were
assuming that, which was not the right thing to say. And it turned out to be true because here we
are still talking about it. Now Diana Rossini had a very defensive resignation letter from the
athletic, which I have my own thoughts on, because I know how I would handle it. And I can tell
you that, but first I do not want to influence Albert Breer. I would like you to be candid Albert.
You don't have to give any insider information, but I want you to know, how do you think that she
handled the resignation from the athletic? I mean, I, I, it's actually interesting. I thought
about how I left NFL network and it involved this. Were you being? Wow, just
things. No, no, no, no, no, no, you're going to, here's what I'm going to say. Like I came on
this show, if you guys remember, I think both of you guys were here. And I left on my own
volition from NFL network. I had cut off negotiations with them months earlier,
Peter had offered me the job. I decided I was going on with Peter. So like I remember,
like I had heard that someone there had leaked some stuff about me a couple days before I came
on the show here. And that was trying to kind of smear me before the announcement was official
that I was going to SI. So, you know, I was a little concerned about controlling the message. So
I was like, I'm going to talk about doing, I'm going to talk about what happened and why I left
NFL network one time. And that's it. And everybody can, I'm not going to sneak around or be
off the record. I'm going to just say it. And then it's going to be done with. And I wound up
regretting that. And the reason why is because as while that was personally satisfying for me
to do that, I wound up hurting a lot of people that I really like and that I had worked well
with together for six years. And my personal satisfaction and the feeling that I got in the moment
when I came on with you guys. And I was very honest about everything there. Like I didn't really
think about like the other people that I was affecting. I say that because I think a lot of times
when you're leaving a place, there is a satisfaction that you're seeking against certain people.
I think everybody would have a fantasy of how they would like to leave them. What they would say
publicly. It's like they moved from office space. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think like they're
like that's the first thing I thought when I when I read the letter from Diana, oh god,
I know I know what this is. It's she's seeking that satisfaction against everybody who's been
talking about her for the last week. And it's just not coming going to come off the way she thinks
it will. And it did. I mean, it came. I mean, look like there's no question. It came off as defensive.
It came off as as over the top. And I don't like it didn't really help her in any way. I don't think
I think the right thing to do in that situation. Like, you know, again, based on my own experiences,
the right thing to do is to thank the people that were good to you through a difficult situation.
And, you know, not not try to settle every score because like my instinct, like it's again,
like that's why like when I when I when I saw it, I kind of got a little bit because like my
instinct is to the same freaking thing. Yeah. Is the settle every score. And you guys know how I am.
You know, so I like I that that was like my first reaction was like God. That probably felt good
in the moment hitting sand on that. But it's not going to. Well, then she's not very smart
because it didn't serve to do anything, but make her look like she had sex with him because I'll
tell you why. If I had I can tell you exactly what I would have done. If I did not have sex with
Mike Vrable and was not in a romantic relationship with Mike Vrable, I would have said, well,
look at more than that. Right. I would say I quit this investigation is horse crap. I want transparency
throughout this whole thing. You like here. These are the facts. I want you to release all the facts
and be transparent. And if you're going to continue this investigation. And then I would go
to Vrable. And I would say I would I would give him a chance. And then if he didn't come out
and set the record straight, I'd start going in on Vrable. And then I would say then I could do
this part. Then I could go how dare you because of this. So we had friends. They all came out. All
the all our friends were out partying and hook it up and doing whatever Mike and I are married.
So we spent the day together innocently. What the hell is the difference between me sitting in
a hot tub with Mike Vrable? What's more innocent me sitting in a hot tub with Mike Vrable in the
middle of the day or reporters sitting at a bar with an owner or a coach at four o'clock in the
morning doing blow, which I know they've done. So you tell me what's worse. We have we stayed out
of the fray. They were having a wild day together. We were we run in the same circles. We're around
the same age. And that's what's going that was what's going on. It's society and this stupid
business that has turned this into something unseemly. I can tell you this this in the third. I can
assure you that's what I would do. If I was a PR person, that's what I would do. There's there's
nothing to save you like the truth. There's no incentive not to tell the truth and not to be
like what the hell? No way. Like there's no coy manipulation of the media if you didn't do it.
It's easily provable. I didn't do it. Like we weren't there together. This is nonsense. Here are
the records from the hotel. And then you can be incredulous about it because the only reason you're
saying this is that I'm a woman. You could make that case again. Yeah. But the and the more succinct
way of saying it and what I think you're saying Fred is we didn't sleep together. We didn't have
sex. We're not having an affair. My employers insist on investigating this further. And I'm not
dealing with it anymore. I quit. Now, I don't know why necessarily she would. And that's probably why
the statement didn't read that way. But if it's that simple, you say this didn't happen the end.
Well, she quit because she doesn't want them to make make public what they find in the investigation.
I would imagine because what are they going to find? Well, and I would want everything to be public.
I also would. I mean, it kind of felt to me like was this a negotiated exit? You know what I mean?
Sure. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like this was not like that. Like was this really a
resignation or was it a negotiated exit? Sure. And like I think that part of it, I mean, look like
the other thing. And I would say there are headwinds here for for Diana in a situation like this.
And that I'm going to call it what it is. The new people, the New York Times resent the athletic.
Like that's not yeah. That's a reality. And like I think they resent how much money some people
the athletic make. And like I do think that that is like there was probably and I'm not saying that
as a shot at anybody. But I do think that they're I mean, look like I can understand it too. The
New York Times sports department got shut down because of it. You know, so you know, I think
that to some degree, there was pressure on the executives there who oversee the whole thing.
Like you better go after them the way you would go after us. But if you didn't have a romantic
relationship with them. And it is true that you were there with your friends. Why wouldn't you
want that to come out? You know, you know, you would you would want a full investigation. I mean,
and look like the other part of it. Of course, I
has there been a girl's trip since the invention of the camera?
That's the best point I've heard. That's really good. That's the best point I've heard.
You heard that sweat and you're absolutely right. Seriously, there are 85 pictures of
Martinez at dinner. Oh, yeah. Same thing. Yeah. Yeah. We know every
close. Seriously, purchase made the best point I've heard. That's a mic drop right there.
How many pictures of little hiking outfits? Oh, yeah. And I do have multiple angles
of everything. There is this like also this like forced ignorance by some people that talk about
this like Jamel Hill who was on below deck. I will say again, and a lot of fun. She went on twice.
She was actually a lot more fun than I thought she'd be. Yeah, but she's like, you know,
whatever on Roussini, but if they held men to the same standard, it's blah, blah, blah, blah,
and it's like, well, yeah, but are they having sex? Like that, like you're almost like that's like a
deliberate removal from logic. You don't understand what I'm saying? Like if she didn't have sex with
them or hook up with them, then all of this is society's fault. But if she had sex with them,
then it's hurtful. I mean, that's obvious. If you're covering someone, you can't have a romantic
relationship with them because that taints the reporting. Yeah, there are lines and I it's and what
it is is like I'll I'll use the extreme example of like Aaron Hernandez, right? If a woman was involved
in a romantic relationship with Aaron Hernandez and then Aaron Hernandez goes and kills people,
what sort of position is that woman in to report honestly on Aaron Hernandez? You know,
like I and I think that that's that's the part that I think people need to wrap their heads around is
like that there is no there's a moral issue with yeah, yeah, but that's not the professional issue
with Mike, but there's not an ethical issue right there's an ethical issue for Diana and that's what
she had to deal with and that's why it was a bigger deal in her world than it was in Mike's world.
Now Mike still has to deal with it and he's not, but I mean, it's two they're two different jobs,
they're two very separate things and like, you know, so much of what I mean, the reality is like for
all of us in our job, we have to like the audience has to believe what I'm giving you is the truth as
I know it, right? And the truth like and I'm gonna I'm not lying to you. I'm telling you what I know
and what I believe to be the truth and anything that clouds that or gets in the way of that
is a problem and that's where like you have to balance your relationships and I've had to
I've had to report on people I really like getting fired, getting involved in a car accident.
Like I've had to do that, you know, and there are just it's they're the lines are blurry because
you have to have relationships with all of these people and I have really I view all those relationships
30 year relationships their relations I've got to maintain just like relationships with my personal
life, but you know, like there's also that part of it, which is like, hey, look dude, like if you don't
do a good job or something goes wrong or you're involved in some scandal, I got a report on that
and like so there's that balance where, you know, I think if if somebody if somebody's going over
a certain line, then it becomes like I can't trust what he or she is giving me as the truth and
like we can give you an example of our own show is that we have had Jenny Della on many times
and she was the stadium like Fenway in crowd reporter and she was dating one of the players
and when she came out that she was dating Will Middlebrooks, we thought it was absolutely ludicrous
that people were giving her a crap because who cares and we've talked about her with this with her
on the air like your job is not to break news or like get like into the story like you're not
like your job is to be on TV and like make people happy. Well, no, it is also not covering baseball
anymore, which is like I think a key but but she could she could she could absolutely be a field
reporter in baseball like so Aaron Anders, for example, is married to a hockey player, you know,
so like I know, yeah, yeah, so she's married to a hockey player, but she covers, she covers football
now she was covering him in the NHL, then that would be an issue if she was a reporter,
but if she was the in stand, right, and there's a difference, there's nuances to it, right?
It's not a nuance. One's a journalist and one is a television person, a television personality.
If I say a person on this, who's single on this station besides me, I don't want to use
me as an example. You're just so square with marriages. But it's quite all of us.
All right, 12. Yeah, so Adam. So Adam has a relationship with a woman.
I mean, let's really get knots. Who wants him to dive in here, huh?
To some woman that's not paid, decides that she's going to be with Matt. No, but like if Adam
wanted to have said the state, if Adam say he found himself a hot to trot 70-year-old
women's basketball coach, I already like what he's doing. He looks loud pansoots. He loves
him. But if Adam find me, if I had sex with a WNBA player and I was talking about a WNBA who cares
because I'm an entertainer. I'm not breaking stories and I'm not an insider. I'm an entertainer.
So I would think that the standard for me is a lot different than the standard for Diana
Rossini. Just like I think that the standard for Jenny Dell based on the job she was doing is a
lot different than the standard for Diana Rossini because she wasn't a reporter. She was a television
personality, which is different. She wasn't, her job was not to get inside of the organization.
To promote the team. If your job is to gather information or shape opinion or that sort of thing,
then like then I think it's important that the audience knows that you're doing it on the level.
You know, it's important that the audience knows that you're coming from an honest place and I,
you know, I think that that's, that's the heart of all of this. You know, that's like,
because I think most people would say, well, even if Diana came back into covering the NFL again,
she could never cover the Patriots because it would be the optics of it, which would just be like,
that would be what the viewer, the reader, the consumer, that be all they were thinking about,
right? Well, that's the girl who was seen in Sedona with the head coach.
And like, wouldn't you, like, unless you thought you had a chance of, like,
spending the rest of your life with the person, there's only 32 guys you can have sex with,
really. Well, I mean, players, but it's not as bad as a coach. Assistant coaches,
general manager. All right. I'm sorry to make that. Now you're making a pool huge. So there's,
like, literally, like, a burst, almost a hundred guys. I'm almost a hundred people that you can
have sex with. But like, the thing is, is that, you know, you know, when you're doing it,
that you're taking a huge risk, which might be part of the appeal, but, you know, you have to know,
once those pictures are out, all right, I'm screwed. And it's kind of like, it's the same thing
as if you got loaded and drove a car and got into an accident. Like, there was a chance you weren't
going to get into that accident, but you did. And now you're screwed. That was the whole thing
about Tiger saying I was just on the phone with the president. Like, dude, if you got pulled over
and nothing happened, I get you're trying to get out of it. You flipped the car. Yeah. Like,
now it's time to go like, all right, all right, all right, all right. Like, you know, it's on me.
Like at a certain point, like, when those photos come out, if you were having sex with
a label, there has to be that self, that self, like, like, just being an adult and going, like,
all right, this is the worst case scenario. I'm screwed. Like, I got to kind of just own it.
I'm an adult. And you, be surprised how forgiving people are when you kind of fall on the
sword a little bit. It's like, once you get like, it's, are you lying to the public? And then if
you get caught lying to the public, are you sticking to, I mean, it's just, you're right. Like,
people are pretty forgiving when she didn't kill anybody. She had sex with the guy if she did,
which I think she did. But if she had sex with the guy, it's not of our business. But you just,
yeah, you caught me. It's like a salacious thing. I'm in the media. I'm a national reporter. He's
the head coach of a full NFL team. Like, like, stop pretending that like, you got caught. Like,
good. Like, if you admit it, what do you think? It's a period of a year. And then you go on the
view. And then, you know, you write a book and then you get a job. And it's like, you just,
you own it. You just, at a certain point, as an adult, you just got to own it. And then you come
out and you say, stop pretending. Yeah. And then she's really good at the job, too. Yeah, okay.
We got a break. We were very late, but, yes, she's good at her job and everything else you're saying.
All right. We'll be back in just a moment. You're the headlines.
Take it that punch. Hard to go. The ticket's not a friend. You've got a bunch of stuff wrong
when you talk so much for this country. Touch your in heart. These are countries. A bunch of
buffoons that don't know rules. All right. We are toucher and hearty. The draft is next Thursday,
first round on the draft. And then it goes on from there. They've ruined it. It was the greatest
when it was on Saturday afternoon. Six hours. You just sit there, bet on draft picks.
It was awesome. Every year I had a party when I was in Atlanta for the draft. And you would think
I was lame. It's lame. It's lame. It was so fun. Yeah. I would get, I loved it when I
hundred people. I loved it when I was a kid and it started at noon. And it was what I'm saying.
That's, that's, like, now to get backed up, I think before they changed it to like Friday night,
then Thursday night, like, there was a point where they moved it back and it started at three or four.
In the afternoon, but like it started at noon was the best. You know, it was so good. Yeah.
Yeah. We used to go, and girls would play too. We used to go, I have a hundred people, but say
25 of them were playing. We used to go drink a pick, which was fun. Because sometimes the picks
come in right away. Sometimes the picks took, what was it at the time, 10 minutes? It was 15, right?
It might have been 15 minutes. 15 back. So you could nurse it or you could chug it. Yeah.
And then we had like a thing that seemed low stakes. If you, if someone until only one person got
the pick right, you got to, which with 15 minutes didn't occupy all your time, but you would just
write a name down and until only one person got the name right, you would get all the money.
And so it would be up until like the hundreds of dollars. And it was like, you know, $500. It was,
it was fun. So it was excessive gambling and drinking. Oh, yeah, baby. It was like Sodom and
Gomorrah. But I don't even know who I was having sex with at certain points. What, what gender,
I didn't know. It was a free for all. It was a phone party too. I just had a whole
I filled my one bedroom condo with foam. I bought for $75,000 that now would be worth some
insane amount of money. So Bert, we've been hearing about the draft and whether or not it has
talent depth or not. And it seems the consensus is that this is not a good draft on a lot of levels.
I would say like the teams that do well are going to be the teams that like nail it on Friday.
I think it's that sort of year where there's good depth at certain positions. There's good depth
at receiver. There's good depth at tight end. There's good depth at edge. And so like I look at like a
Miami, for example. So Miami has the eleventh pick, but they also have seven picks in the first three
rounds. So for them, you know, it's, are you going to find the guy who is going to be the best player
on a Super Bowl champion, probably not. But you do have an opportunity to build up the guts of
your roster, if that makes sense. So you do have a chance to go get a bunch of really good players
that can kind of start to attempt stem the tide for you as you're trying to turn it around. So
like I, I think if you're looking for a good complimentary players, you'll be able to find them.
The stars at the top of the draft. And we had this discussion. I think the last couple of weeks,
like the Miles Garrett defensive end, the Julio Jones receiver, the Joe all left tackle,
Penae Sule left tackle, the Patrick, the right tackle stupid. Well, he left tackle coming out.
And now he's a left tackle again. And he's even here. Yeah. So could you argue? You don't
have that that this draft is more important for teams that are already good than it is for teams
who need an interesting point. Yeah. Oh, hello. I didn't even have to read that. I almost seem
like a reaction. Yeah. How about this? I think this is a, Nick, get ready to cut this,
make it into a video. There we go. But I think this draft is more important for good teams than
it is for bad teams. How about that? Maybe this is the draft for your
renovating the house, not building it. I like mine better. But if you want to punch it up,
if you want to, if you want to include that at the end, but fade it out and go to the station
logo at that part of the video. All right. All right. We blast. We can look at like
we can look at what the patriots are with this, right? And so edge is a big,
edge is a, a big need for them, right? So they're sitting at 31. And I'll give you guys four names
that the listeners probably maybe aren't all that familiar with. There's Kendrick Falk from Auburn.
There's Zion Young from Missouri. There's Armies and Thomas from Oklahoma. Yeah. And there's
Cassius Howell from Texas A&M. What about that guy from Illinois? They just had a meeting with him.
Okay. So like I'm just giving you these four names. We can get to the Illinois. But those four
names, right? So here, but this is an example of what this draft is, right? So with Falk and with
Falk and Young, they're bigger, longer, more rugged defensive events, right? Yes. So they're guys
that like they're your base end, but are they great pass rushers yet? No. Okay. The other two guys,
Howell and Thomas are more like they've got great shoes coming off the edge. They'll be able to
affect quarterbacks on third down, but they're smaller. So are they full-time players? Probably not.
Are they coming in as like, all right, he's going to be a nickel pass rusher. So that's what
you're dealing with. Complementary players. Right. Like so it's like that's why I'm saying like you
can find pieces to augment is there going to be a guy at 31 that you're going to say like, yeah,
like when the offense breaks the huddle, they're looking for where that edge split probably not. But
there, there's going to be guys that can help you. Okay. Okay. There's really no time for this,
but I have really got to break, but I'll tell you if one thing about the draft fourth running
back on some guy's list is a kid from Penn State and they're saying top end backup running back.
And he's the running back. The running back class. The running back class is historically bad.
Yes. So it might be the two Notre Dame kids and no one else until Saturday. Yes. So yeah.
But I just thought it was funny. There's a kid from Penn State who split time at Penn State
and they're like, he's at best to top end back up and he's the fourth running back on the list.
Bert, thank you. MMQB through the draft and everything else. He is holding Diana
Racini's water. No, I'm just kidding. He will be back next Friday with whoever's on the air.
Thank you, Bert. We'll be right back. Thank you.
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