Aliens & Angels: March 15th, 2026 – JEFF SELVER

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Meet experiencers, contactees, abductees,

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Hi, everybody.

Welcome back to the aliens and angels podcast here in 2026.

Today, my returning guest is Jeff Selver.

And we will be discussing some of his amazing experiences as described in his called The Rising.

I have to catch up since it was published.

With an MBA and a passion for management and leadership,

Jeff worked in banks corporate training as a motivational speaker and taught mindful leadership.

He has been under the tutelage of a Vedic teacher for over 20 years where he's learned Vedic philosophy and meditation.

When his memories of alien contact came out, Jeff began presenting his contact,

events in UFO groups, sharing his story in detail and providing research and corroboration with other experiencers.

In December of 1997, Jeff experienced The Rising, which was an agreement with great aliens to discover his soul.

The Rising required him to take a leap of faith, sell all his possessions and begin a life traveling from place to place.

And folds is truly an epic adventure of removal from society and living closer to nature, all the while having contact events with great aliens without his knowing.

In summary, his book tells of 26 contact events with great aliens told an amazing detail and spread out between the years of 1993 and 2017.

Fundamentally, Jeff was shown that what humans understand about spirituality, life after death, dimensions,

God, the soul, and psychic powers are just the beginning of what the grays are all about and that their capacity, understanding and utilization of these is much greater than humans can imagine.

Jeff's story shows that the only way we will ever be able to understand the grays is to understand the power of our own personal spiritual potential.

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And with that, we will bring on our guest, Jeff, how you doing today? Welcome.

Thanks, Karen. Thanks for having me. Yeah, life is good. How are you doing?

Yeah, I'm doing good too. You know, I'm, I stay busy, you know, with my own, to be honest with you, my own self evolution is a full-time job.

Taking care of what I eat, getting enough sleep, you know, working on my relationships with other people. Oh my gosh, it truly keeps me out of trouble. I don't know if there's any thoughts about that.

No, I agree. I think that's, no, you're, you're nailing on the head. I like, you know, I spend time in nature. Then that's a, that's, I need to be in nature.

And so instead of, you know, I don't know how to frame it, but instead of doing surface things, you could say, yeah, you know, being, being, having self care does take, it's a responsibility and it takes energy and time. Yeah, you got it.

So I told you I can relate to that.

And then the other thing is to be honest, if I don't spend some time every day in, in the company of unseen forces, let's just put it that way, I don't feel so good.

Seriously, it's like I need to be in contact with my spiritual guides, just to keep an even keel and, and to keep going. Does that ever happen for you?

Yeah, I might not frame it exactly the same way, but yeah, you got it. I get energized at the site of the elder who still flies around my condo sometimes very discreetly as an award or something, but the site of it does energize me. Yeah.

And then it always is motivating me for, you know, it's, it's kind of like a cheerleader for the public, anything to do with the public.

So something going on on my YouTube channel or something here or, or someone, you know, wants to investigate me or something or move on, whatever it is, they're always aware of that.

Yeah, they're kind of like the cheerleader and, and without it, I, I mean, I actually haven't gone without it, but I can, I know that too.

They weren't there. You don't, you feel like you're alone in it. And it's kind of, I'll be putting out a video actually pretty serious pretty soon.

When there was a period of my life where no one really understood what this was all about and I hadn't had my book out yet.

They were the only ones who understood. So it was ended up being a weird game where, you know, because what the aliens did with me was very unique.

And so I ended up relying on the, you know, this anomalous activity or the phenomenon of flying around my home.

So yeah, that, that relationship got stronger. And, and yeah, so I definitely, definitely enjoy and feel good when she's around. Yeah.

Mm hmm. Wonderful. So it's been a while since we've talked. I'm wondering if you want to tell us a bit more about that or what's transpired in the last year or so for you.

Do you want to go into more detail about?

Sure.

You've done and, and please do allude to your book and your channels and everything as much as you'd like to to help people find you and find out about your amazing experience.

Yeah, thanks Karen. I appreciate it. Yeah, you got it. So it was about a, maybe two years ago now, I think I've released the book and overall, yeah, it's, I've been doing a lot, a lot of podcasts and interviews and UFO groups and move on.

So that's actually really exciting. I was able to speak to several several move on chapters and sorry about that. And, yes, several move on chapters. And that's really exciting to get this content out.

And yeah, so I constantly put stuff out on my YouTube channel. So I am researching what I, I, for me, it doesn't stop.

The way I kind of frame it is the aliens gave me a lot of rabbit holes. So specific contact events had things that link up to the phenomenon in other ways that when I'm going through it, you have no idea.

And be when the memories are out, you're just saying, oh, my God, that happened to me. And then you're like, everyone should know something like this happened to me because this is like, this can happen to a human.

And then you're in, you're like, oh, another person from the 50s had that experience. I need to understand that. And all of a sudden, I'm picking up books from from other, you know, contactees and then you're seeing connections.

And you're saying, hey, I had the same experience that person did who talked about in the 50s and dealt with that race. So dealt with that species. And so stuff like that is going on. So on my channel, I, I have the eighth contact events.

And I just spent a lot of energy trying to understand this contact event where I flew a craft to Venus.

And I really tried to, you know, delve into all the research I could around it. So yeah, I have a whole bunch of books where I bought a whole bunch of stuff and then read and read and read and read and found a ton and ton and ton and connect, ton and ton of connections and then organized it all and then produced a, you know, series of videos.

And so that's a, that's a lot of joy because it's, it's an avenue with which I can speak about my continuing experiences while simultaneously researching past stuff that's in the book and learning about things that have happened to me and an understanding them.

So, for example, you know, yeah, having gone to Venus, it turns out a lot of the content in my own eighth contact event matched, you know, Georgia Damsky's content. And that was like, it's, you know, that whole thing like Stranger at the Pentagon and like Frank, Frank Stranger at the Pentagon and Georgia Damsky's, you know, the UFOs have landed. He has two books out.

They all were about Venusians and, and you know, off the top of your head, you kind of almost like don't believe it because it doesn't, it just seems so, you know, antiquated 1950s, these humans, you know, we got great aliens all over the place and all these other types of ways the phenomenon interacts with people.

But when you start doing all the digging, you find that there's not just, you know, commonalities with my own contact, but, you know, valiant for was often astral projecting, which is what it looks like I was doing in my contact.

And it was an astral projection. So there was like a hologram body, if you will, a bi-located hologram body. And then so Georgia Damsky talks that way about about, you know, his Venusians and so does Frank Stranger at the, Stranger at the Pentagon.

So these are weird connections that don't seem, you know, first they seem far fetched and all of a sudden you realize, wait a minute, this is kind of making a bigger picture.

And yeah, so there was a lot of different tiny things like that in the, in the history that matched my own personal experience. So I make a video series about that.

Something else is going on, let's, let's hear. So the, so in every video series I've been putting out, so the aliens showed me this kind of origin of them, right, for my entities, anyway, I can say, it's like a dimensional earth, like a dimensional earth in the future.

And, and it seems very extreme. And, but the research behind that is growing. So I found other contactees who have some, whose aliens are basically also from a future earth in the, in another dimensional earth in the future.

And so it's all kind of matching up and then the, the entity said the same thing that my entity said, or hybridizing and putting themselves here. So it's like, oh, this is, the aliens were saying this to a lot of different people.

And, and then they also said the same thing about what they're going to do to a lot of different people. So it does look like there's a picture forming.

So that's a part of it, too. I think I'm convinced that, you know, that's what the phenomenon is, is this thing that's originating from in a future earth dimension that plants to put itself here. And, and with hybridization and, and so yeah, that's like another, that'll be coming out soon.

It's all part of the kind of bigger picture. That same information, I'm going down to San Francisco and in about a week. And I'm presenting on that to a UFO con. So I'll be talking about the presentation is titled, is the phenomenon originating from an alternate earth dimension in the future.

And there's a government doc that supports it. And then there's whistleblowers tom the long. So has, you know, information that kind of matched this as well, too.

You got Jack Vallet hinting at this, you get never mind. Yeah, all the, when you start scouring the contacti testimonies from John Mac and Grant Cameron, you find contactis talking about alternate earth dimensions, you find contactis talking about future earth.

So there's a big picture here that it looks like the aliens have been telling us. And maybe we were the ones who can't handle that information or don't understand it. So we brush it off.

But yeah, there does appear to be a picture here that they're from a planet that's linked ours. And at least again, I can say my entities are.

And yeah, so that's, that's a really big thing. I feel like I'm, I'm, I'm crouching on on something that is very, very real and about to make itself very known.

And humans will have to have some version of this information in the public, even if it's just insane for us to handle.

So that's that. And then the third thing that's coming around the corner is this will be the last one we can get it because it is busy, right?

Yeah, when you're dealing with a phenomenon in real time. Yeah, anything can, all of a sudden, something can, you know, expose itself and it's making all this other information makes sense and you have to tell the world about it.

So, so there's something kind of fun.

But when I, you know, I'll tell you, I'll tell it here, it's just when I don't tell it properly, it just sounds like experience or insanity.

Like, oh yeah, okay, just over whatever you say.

So, so the aliens put it, this is all part of my story. They put a download in me. It's called the Mystic Book.

Okay, so that I've been very public about that for years.

And only recently on my YouTube channel have I been extracting the symbols I saw.

And there are all these shapes and designs and I'm, you know, it doesn't look like script. It's just these shapes.

Well, it turns out those shapes and I guess kind of are a script.

And there's a crop circle that was actually a series of crop circles that were placed in 2009 in Wiltshire.

And they're extremely complex and they are filled with these types of scriptures and I can read them.

And yeah, so it's a, and what it, it's actually, it's a picture.

When you look at it, I like to think, oh my god, now that I had this information, I can, it's a entire picture about it's them explaining the alien human hybrids.

So it's like a story. Anyway, I'll just put it out and then people can make it make what they want.

But the bottom line is I'm always intelligent about the stuff. I'd link it up with with the right information and make a lot of the stuff make sense.

And so it's, it's, but you know, we're all hybrids is the idea.

And I think I think what this information gave me was what ethnicities were what?

And, and also that they are from that alternate earth dimension and then they planted us.

And then now they're kind of a future perspective all about it.

And, and yeah, and they plan to hybridize with whatever genes were there at the time.

And so yeah, it's a fascinating bunch of information that's around the corner about something that I didn't know I could do reading a crop circle.

Yeah, that's, that's pretty fun. And it should be, it's information that's just all matching everything else.

That's what's fascinating. It's kind of, it's nothing like out of the ordinary.

In fact, what it does is flush out other information about a they are from an alternate earth dimension, be the humans are hybrids ourselves.

But then you have to ask well, then why are they hybridizing now? Like what's the picture? And so all of that is kind of getting formed in this.

In this presentation, I'll do with, yeah, so it's just a lot of information coming together, but also finalizing into a picture that I think will make sense.

Also, by the way, to say that we're all hybrids, this is right in line with the Canadian 1950s Canadian transport minister.

Oh my god, his name is in my presentation and I've forgotten it already.

Wilbert, Wilbert, Wilbert Smith, I think his name is, and yeah, so in 1950s, transport ministry started a UFO, started a UFO program for the government, UFO magnet, I think it was called.

So yeah, and he actually said in a presentation delivered to the Ottawa, I looked at an Ottawa conference and he was talking about his, his research around UFOs and said, we are all, you know, we are all descendants of these aliens that put themselves here on our planet.

A long, long, long time ago and we are the remnants of it. And that's what this crop circle showing is that the ethnicities are actually hybridizations.

And then they just sat here, you know, doing their thing evolving over time and civilizations upon civilizations over the tens of thousands of years.

And so it links it all back up to it all originated from a shadow dimension, which is just all, you know, puts it all into a big picture.

So yeah, that's going to be fun.

Wow, I'm hoping you will come back after you do your presentation, maybe in a couple of months and do the presentation on my show, I would absolutely love that.

Sure.

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Yeah, I'm wondering there's so many directions we could go at this point, but I'm wondering Jeff, if you would just spend a few minutes talking about the

gray. So we tend as humans to think of the grays as being all in one pot, all one kind of beings.

But then we hear about all kinds of horrible experiences that people are having.

Then we hear about all the wonderful experiences people are having.

I know a lot of that probably has to do with their personal fear factors.

But in your opinion, if you take into the idea that some grays may be from other planets that or that the grays have been here for thousands of years, or the possibility that it's a transdimensional reality, which is kind of similar to being here.

It's confusing, especially to me.

I'm wondering if you want to address that a little bit.

How many races are you aware of or how would you how do you look at it?

Yeah.

So, you know, it's very interesting.

I have a bit of a different take and I'm not trying to my take is not never meant to take away anything from anybody's.

And as an experiencer, you know, you're designed, you're built, you're built to talk about things a certain way.

That's my case, right?

If you look at my story, I have all these like holograms that they were embedding into me that give me impressions that have me that shape me that have me talking about the phenomenon a certain way and expressing that.

And you know, I wouldn't do it.

If any of that information ended up being wrong, and it turns out so far, all of it's right.

So I just keep going down the rabbit hole.

Now, when it comes to, so I only will frame it my way.

And I never meant to take anything away from anybody else.

I can only talk about what's my personal experience.

And then what is the evidence?

And you have to, there's a weird gain going on about what we were told from one group, what you could say is government related.

And anything coming out of the government that's government related, you know, I think people need to, especially if that person's a whistleblower, but actually hasn't experienced anything and saw a whole bunch of documents.

There's a whole bunch of stuff here that, I mean, we know that they manipulate the whistleblowers as it is.

You know, we'd have records of that.

Well, in Cooper is a good example.

But, but the bottom line is, is there's one set of information.

Linda, oh, I say this quite a bit.

Linda, how can fight it to me?

It's very important that she, that I think this information is important.

She had a whole bunch of whistleblowers over the decades telling her a whole bunch of stories.

Then she has all these experiences that she meets with.

She's told me 1500.

She experiences that she's interacted with.

And she can't get the stories to meet.

So there's one set of stuff that she, that's being told.

And then there's a whole bunch of private experiences.

And one of the things that she wanted me to, to confide to her is, what was the relationship between all the entities?

So never mind.

I shouldn't believe or not believe.

She sat there and said, okay, so you dealt with the humanoids?

What was the relationship?

What was the relationship to that, to the gray aliens?

What did they, what did they deal with the gray aliens?

What's going on?

Like, and she was confused by that whole picture about the multiple species thing.

And it turns out, when you, like, in John Mac, also talked about this, he actually mentioned it in his book.

People deal with different entities within the confine of the contact event.

But you don't have, maybe, maybe within the gray confine, you're having different versions of grays, people having this kind of finalized experiences.

But you know, you don't have a book from like a hardcore researcher about all the lizard contact events.

You don't have a book from a researcher about all the, all the palladium contact events.

Right? Something is going on here where you're having it all kind of confined in a single experience that, yeah, a single experience or can't have multiple different types of entities.

But I'm actually saying, well, you're actually entering into an environment with which, you know, I don't think anything is nefarious.

Nothing is nefarious.

I don't believe, in fact, every time I can find someone talking nefariously, you're like, well, yeah, but you need to evolve.

You're like, you're living in the matrix, humans are in the matrix.

And the entities might be doing things to help to, to, to agitate out of that.

So they might pull you out of your body, even though you're terrified of that, right?

Or they might show you something scary.

So you kind of get snapped out of your own reality.

And using humanoids, by the way, is also something they would do to build relationship.

So it doesn't, what I'm finding is that the phenomenon is all powerful.

So it's able to manipulate realities, space, time and everything.

And it's also able to shape shift.

And it's also able to make bodies.

So it can, so, so basically, like the bodies of, well, so everyone must have different experiences.

Well, I actually believe that too.

That's a, that's a big part of the phenomenon as well, too.

Is you're not finding any, this is one, one part of it is that you're not finding any repeating patterns.

Even if you're dealing with like the plateans, then you should be having a similar experience to all plateans.

But you're not, you're not, this will be like start track where you come down with the same craft, you have the same insignia, you got the same suit.

And the same people go into the same rooms.

That's not happening across the board.

So, so that alone is speaking to the, the what I think is all originating from one source.

And people are interacting with something that it's seen from the future and says, okay, Karen's going to start a podcast.

I'm not saying it's, I'm not saying you fit into this. I can't say that right.

But I'm using as an example, it's aware of the future imprint of what's going to happen.

And some people can't handle grace.

So then they give people other types of experiences.

This is a theory, okay?

Because I can't say that this is happening across the board.

And also maybe there is some cases of alternate species involving themselves.

But, you know, and when you nail down the research.

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A lot of people aren't really dealing with similar grays anywhere.

And it's all kind of just a bunch of different stuff.

And that's what it's really coming down to is a whole bunch of different experiences.

And that speaks to me what I'm convinced of is that there's a central source.

It's all in fact one thing.

And it's changing itself as we feel or as it feels it needs to for us.

Interesting.

Yeah, it's shape shifting or manipulating or not manipulated.

And again, for me, it's never nefarious.

It's doing it because it recognizes, you know, let's use the example.

So it's saying you're going to do a podcast.

You're going to help experiences.

You're going to be that person.

So then it's coming to you in a certain manner with which it will allow you to be comfortable, happy,

and able to feel like there's a mission.

And then you're helping shape shift the society in a way that moves it forward.

That's beneficial for it and us.

So that's what that's what I'm coming down to.

And I'm that's what I'm interacting with.

And is the old what I've actually convinced the elder is is a suit.

So the elder is a spirit, but that form is a suit.

And the suit and actually the funny thing in telepathy.

She's just agrees with all this.

She's like, yes, it's the way you have a you have a suit.

I have that's my suit.

It's her favorite suit.

And there is a genetic connection.

So there is a human hybridization thing going on.

That is ethnicity involved.

Bloodline involved.

And then they have their own original hybrids.

And then they make body suits out of them.

So the human that they're interacting with that might be part of that genetic line

can feel a bond or a link to it.

And for me, Celtic.

It's great alien.

So yeah, I have the gray aliens in my life.

And that's her suit.

And I think the mansion is the same thing.

It's a suit.

And that suit may have been around for thousands of years.

I'm not saying it's not some still a definitive something.

But it's it's a it's a preferred suit, if you could say.

And then from there, they're that's like only a quarter of their form or a quarter

of what they're dealing with.

And they're able to remove and being these transdimensional states with no bodies.

And they're and they're going into spaces that I think also involve quantum tech.

So yeah.

And I think that that's maybe where they prefer to be is in these quantum

dimensional spaces with technology in these in these suitless bodies.

Yeah.

Though that makes a lot of sense.

According to my own experience, I get into that a bit in my book as well about

there being these I call them one size fits all clone bodies.

I have no idea how they're made or what they do with them when they're not using them.

But when beings need physicality for whatever reason.

Yeah.

And they're they work, they work like containers.

And then I've also heard other people speak that we're often referred to as containers.

And it kind of makes a lot of sense.

It really does.

But I'm wondering if you want to get a bit into the connection between your Vedic teacher.

And what you've learned from Vedic, I don't know what you want to call it philosophy or understanding.

And the ET phenomenon.

Is there a connection?

Can you fill us in a little bit about that?

Yeah, great.

So Vedic philosophy is a science of this.

It's the psychological science of spirituality.

So it's not it's not meant to it's not meant to isolate itself and say there's only one God over here.

It's it's a practice with which gets applied to any human spirituality.

So there's the way the best way of looking at it is the four yogas.

So Bhakti, Guyan yoga, Karma yoga and Raj yoga.

And so they're all they're all means that you use to connect to source.

You could say Brahmap, you could also say source.

So in a good example of this is Christians are the reason Christianity is endured all these years is because they practice Bhakti yoga.

And they also practice Karma yoga.

So they and those are real attributes that that sustain the spirit in when you're dealing with you know the source.

You could say and there if it's Jesus for them or it's God, whatever they want it to be.

But they're doing Bhakti yoga and they're doing Karma yoga and it sustains their spirituality.

So those are examples of of it being a science.

So it's cross it can cross over into whatever whatever your religion is, whatever your spirituality is.

So even pagan, right?

I used to when I was a teenager before I had any of my experiences that I kind of got warmed up to spirituality through pagan.

Pagan rituals used to go do moon rituals and like meditate in a circle in the moon with the full moon and stuff is really cool.

And so that's Bhakti yoga right there, right?

So and so if an I had had I done anything with that and tried to do something to the society with it, that would be Karma yoga.

So again, it just it's a way of translating the kind of the psychological science.

Now when it comes to the aliens, it's all equally applies.

So you know, I'm convinced the aliens themselves are worshipers are like God worshipers like the.

But that's the reverence like the I experienced them to have reverence I did I experienced them to have reverence for their and they have ancient elders too.

So they they have a sense of reverence and sacredness and that's Bhakti yoga karma yoga is definitely what they did.

I mean their actions alone.

So if they believe they're evolving humanity, they're doing karma yoga.

Guyan yoga would just simply be the knowledge right so the knowledge of of spirit of.

It doesn't matter what path you're on and you might be seeking source you might be seeking God.

You need mental information to make sense of that of that experience, even though the experience will go beyond mental knowledge.

You do need some type of understanding about what you're dealing with.

So that's kind of that's the Guyana Guyan yoga it's like the wisdom basically.

But it's so yeah, the mental aspect of knowledge and when I was with the aliens, they were doing things to me.

And I wasn't aware I was having contact but I was feeling the after effects of it and I would go and seek knowledge.

So I was reading books upon books upon books to understand my own spirit in the process that they were the ones egging on spirit in me.

And then I was the one looking in books for trying to make a connection and trying to make sense of things and that's Guyan yoga.

Is the application of of your it's like the kingly yoga.

It's the application of the could say it's the combination of all three, but it's the application and it's the it's the I am God experience.

It is the ultimate surrender is what it is. So it's the kingly yoga.

So the best way of framing is while they did show I mean they show when you start going down the research again about what they're doing to people.

I didn't realize this but I mean John Mac in his book abductions really kind of like he mentions it but doesn't really analyze it too much.

Every single one of the contact he's had pass like we're showing past life awareness.

So some verge some way in some form on craft they're shown the larger version of what they are and they did that with me right they showed me the afterlife.

So that's Roger yoga right there like they're showing me I am God they're showing me I have my source and I'm connected to all and.

And so that's Roger yoga and then they made a whole thing about my story is the rising which was my personal rising that they facilitated.

They 100% understood self realization and so these are not it's very the untrained human mind who may be materialistic just sees this all a spiritual like a religious thinking.

It's probably don't think this way they're probably all mechanical and and you know literal and and you just don't even have any evidence for that you have evidence.

I mean people think probably the crafts are evidence for that because the way they fly but even now with all the crash retrieval they can't open them half the time and they they we have heard there's a consciousness link to the crafts.

And that's I'm always like yeah because you know you need to be on this level and I'm certain the craft is aware and we'll let people who are down here try to operate it and and it's waiting for a person who can connect with it and kind of be on its level and then you can all craft.

And so yeah for me it's all the other twist here is that when you start recognizing the aliens maybe made our DNA or something like that or maybe involve themselves or their brain and all that and though they are so foreign to us.

We might have been an initial stock of something on the planet that was always here but they can put some version of them into us.

When you start looking at the possibility that maybe yes some of the spiritualities some of the religions maybe had hints of them always in the religion and maybe always was there and and so maybe this idea that you know enlightenment was always was always a truth and was always a reality and the aliens were always you know wanting humans to eventually as a

on our own never mind their involvement on our own evolve naturally so we have change in a we evolve so we'll be able to hybridize with them but maybe as one part of the agenda but but also you know they wanted us to to to move forward and so it doesn't seem that far off anymore that these these are real real real universal truths quantum truths you know sorry I mean yoga the five the four yoga's are real truths.

Real truths of of the nature of psyche reality consciousness and then the and then I can find ways that that all matches with my own personal experience with the aliens.

I think that's not far off anymore and I think you and years ago people would say you're humanizing them right but now I'm like no it actually is making a lot of sense that there's elements of the truth of what they're all about in our society as well too.

And you just they wanted us to figure it out and find these things and learn from it and grow and evolve on our own because that's how you affect our DNA which is something they would want and that's the effect are are us to grow so we could eventually be on their level you can't even you can't.

Even there like no one's able to argue so far that they're not on some other dimensional level you can't in fact you got senators now saying they're dimensional so then you have to start.

The materialist the person is skeptical of that has to start asking questions about what that means for themselves as a person and they have to recognize maybe maybe there has to be a change of some type of the end of the human to even begin to comprehend or interact in these ways and if people don't believe that's possible then just go to near death experience research.

The human trans firms they transformation actually occurs there's research for it so now you need to recognize that that that the fact and and that transformation is almost required when dealing with these type of dimensional entities and yogas all the four yogas help with that process so yeah very very interesting very interesting thank you.

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I'm wondering if we can transition a little bit into the city.

So is there any kind of a time frame or were you given any information on what's the status of that so from what I understand there's going to be a city.

If there isn't one already here on earth that where the hybrid children between the grays and the humans are growing up to a certain level where they can reach mastery.

I could have it all wrong.

Please do clarify.

But what's your idea on a timeline for that because I think now more than ever people need hope.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't have a timeline.

I don't.

And it was always planet event first.

I would come down afterwards.

Planet event first, hybrid come down afterwards.

So yeah, but I do believe this is all I believe we're in the end game.

I mean, I think this is the end game personally.

I think that I still stick with.

The genre Mary's.

2027, which was a soft, which was a 10 year soft disclosure program from 2017, the New York Times article with Leslie Keen.

And then, you know, slow dripping.

Well, it's on David Grash.

John.

All them kind of coming out.

Another Senate hearings.

Now there's two.

Now there's a UAP committee.

Now senators alone are talking about it.

And now it's kind of broaching out, broaching out, broaching out.

And it's and we're going to hit a moment.

Yeah, it's a 2027 where I think whether I think they they the entities are saying you who we gave you this information.

You are responsible for telling your population because why.

Unless something was going to happen.

Right.

The word is going to sit in the dark.

Right.

Why making the sense.

Right.

If we're just going to sit in the dark and never learn that there's aliens and never learn the whole truth about what the all this is about, which is that we are linked to them to and that we were put here.

With seating on purpose from a future species from an alternate plane from from another earth and all this like insanity.

And they somehow we have to be okay with that.

Or else like there's no reason to do it.

There's no reason to make this push the way that they're making the push.

Just keep us in the dark wouldn't you know, then just keep us in the dark.

But there's a reason doing it and the reason.

You know, from what I understand is them it's them making that push because they are on a world scale will something will happen where they will be visible or or or or here or something along those lines.

And then it's just as for me it's just a crazy, you know, synchronicity like here I am I came out with my memories 2019 and then 2020 I was starting to talk publicly.

I think by 2021 or something I was like that's really weird that Louis LaZondo is talking and I didn't understand that 20 2017 thing I didn't really put the picture together.

And I thought what's your timing like for me to talk and then all of a sudden well yeah that makes sense because they're talking about putting themselves here in the future city.

And now the government's now started to take it seriously I feel like that was meant to be.

And so yeah, it's like there's an amp up of information.

So that for me is it's just obvious that we're in an end game.

That's what I believe it's the end because I believe we were they were supposed to have done this decades ago.

They were supposed to warm us up and that's what ET and close encounters of the third kind.

Yes.

The day the earth stood still that's what those were all four we all know there was like a CIA.

What's his name Alan Heineck was behind you know third close encounters of the third kind.

So there was a reality here where there is some we and David Gresh said this too that these the Pentagon had gone in and tried to influence to help us with this stuff at times in history.

So there was a push to get this information.

And then we have John Brandenberg who is the Kepler space satellite who's brought the space space space you know research programs wrote a book called Morningstar pass.

The government basically got into a disagreement with the gray aliens in the 90s.

So it does look like there was something they're trying to do then they decided to do not do it.

And then now there is eight where they now have to do it kind of like you have to and that's the way it's going to go.

And that's what this looks like 2017 to 2027.

And I believe we're in the end game, but I don't I don't profess to know what that means or the timeline of those things.

And I still don't know if the city is simply metaphorical for a reality of the alien presence on the earth with their attack.

I let that be possibly a metaphor because I don't fully know.

But you know so far.

Things haven't been quite metaphorical they've been very literal so.

Yeah, I don't know.

Wow, that's really interesting.

Thank you for that.

You know in my own personal research, which I do all the time I've come across a couple other things there's Chris blood so who has an interaction with an entity he calls the lady.

And apparently she gave to him while she's supposed to show up again at Easter, which is only a few weeks away.

And then she gave him a sign that was when this thinks which is pointing I believe towards regulus comes up and it's normally blue and it's going to come up as I can't remember if it's orange or pink.

But now astrologers are saying that could be September or October 2026.

And on top of that, I have seen a couple long form interviews on the basement with AJ.

And he does the white files and these nights Templar are saying that are saying two things one is is they've deciphered scrolls that were apparently copies of copies of copies of what Jesus and Mary Magdalene wrote.

And they're in there they say Jesus says, I'm not fully human.

I am part of Turion and I thought that was really interesting. I never heard that before.

And I'm not saying these guys are right.

Who knows who knows right.

But but it's interesting. They also said that there could be basically the antichrist on the sixth month, which was be June six day at six p.m. This year, 2026.

And again, who knows until it happens.

But what I thought was really interesting is that is is I guess what I want to ask you is just just I you don't have to know the truth.

I just want to know your take on it unless you have a truth, which is OK too.

And that is how will people be able to tell the so called antichrist, which is just like a replacement for Christ.

It doesn't mean a gains Christ per se, but it's a replacement, not the real thing.

And advanced ET contact for instance of some beings come to earth and say, yeah, we're from Venus. We look very much like you and we're going to set up a new a new system on earth.

So it just seems a little bit overwhelming. What can we tell people who aren't really familiar with the phenomenon?

How to tell the difference between the so called antichrist and ETs events.

You're seeing people who would interpret it as antichrist as you're saying, right?

Yes, it's all interpretations. I do not claim to know what's real. What's not not in this world anymore.

Right, right. I like to believe I mean, I've I've experienced enough that I know some things that are real. So and then I just keep being validated.

So so yeah, but that's I'm supposed to talk that way too. So that's my that's my my spiel. People don't like it. They can not not listen.

And so, but I do the thing I know is that the entities are originating from from something beyond this, but, but the problem is is this is what I think is was meant to mean by warming up like because I just think that this is the disaster.

That's about to unfold, which is interestingly why, you know, the Pope has been saying some things about aliens over the last couple years.

The Vatican now appears to have been been involved in some type of crash retrievals and all this stuff. So yeah, that's all very, very fascinating and interesting.

Hopefully they get out ahead of that. That's what my because I don't think you can stop the human being from this is this is the problem.

The human is the problem. The human has been the problem. The human mind and our pretend propensity for, you know, demonizing something we don't understand is actually the neanderthal part of our brain.

That's still running very wild in the present and social media can just make how clear how much, you know, our brains will gravitate towards something for simplicity just to when we don't understand something.

And that really is what's at stake here is is we need to think it through before we act and and there are a ton of humans.

And I mean, probably into the billions who are not interested in thinking things through and want to re they want to maintain the reality.

That's the problem. We have a we have a and anybody who threatens the maintaining of that reality is a threat to them to that to them.

And there are people I believe who would harm other people to maintain that reality. So I think this is a disaster.

And my my positivity hope is that I know what the aliens want from us and where we want to go with all this do actually want like they're telepathic.

So just use your logic, right? They want peace. They want you to be at peace. They want calm.

They want you to be relaxed and not anxious and anxiety and stressed and so they want a world where that facilitates that and they'll use their tech to do it.

And then they can be interacting with us. So it's kind of like almost as logical if you don't even want to go into all the spiritual Lou, just just go into the logic that can telepath the empathy means they don't want you spurning off.

You know, stress because you got cut off or that you stressed because you're someone's breaking up with you or something something something right.

So those like the human, I think there's just a really big problem and I don't know if you were to say what's the advice if someone was like, oh, how do I know there is no antichrist.

So that's the first and the second is humans have been interpreting consciousness and in spirituality for deck for thousands of years.

And we are all just interpreting it. That's why I also love Vedic philosophy, Vedic philosophy recognizes the role of meditation, recognizes the role that your mind, your brain is the one who is the deceiver.

Your brain is a deceiver and that's what, you know, you have to kind of get on top of is stop your brain from deceiving you.

So, you know, but again, when someone wants to believe in an antichrist, they're not interested in hearing that because that's also the devil, right?

The Vedic is the only two. So I'm not so they're not interested in hearing what meditation and all that stuff.

So yeah, it's the mind is the deceiver here and the human mind has been deceiving us for a long, long, long time.

And yet we've had the tools to get out of it. That's the thing. Humans always have had the tools. We just have to apply the tools and learn the tools.

And then, you know, the cool thing that we could have done over, you know, maybe hundreds of years ago is apply those tools on a grand way that helps all the society, but, you know, we didn't do that.

So we're now in a scenario where there's a lot of minds running them up. So, yeah.

It really reminds me of the movie The Matrix. Oh my God, they did such a great job about there are people who don't want, they know we're living in a matrix and they don't want it to be any different.

It is true. Yeah, it's the brain, right? Like, I mean, there is a, there is, yeah, like I simultaneously have that opinion and there's compassion because this is physical tissue brain stuff, right?

You have repeating patterns, repeating patterns and all of a sudden you have something that jars that pattern, it shocks them. And I think we all go through it too. So that's the other, you know, we also make patterns for ourselves, even when we're being spiritual.

And then there's something that's outside that pattern and you have to spend energy and time to digest how it internalizes for you. And sometimes that takes days, months and years or, you know, or years, right?

So, yeah, it's the human, it's interesting being human. It certainly is.

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I'm going to put this back up on the screen. My wonderful moderator, Denise asks, she says, Jeff, I'm curious. I believe we're at the end times.

What comes next, if you know?

Well, for me, yeah, it's this, it's this. This is the presence, the alien presence on the earth. So that's, I mean, that's what it is for me.

And that's what I'm built to say and talk about. And I'm not built, but I believe it to be true. So I think I have seen enough now, especially from the government side and the way they're behaving now.

And, and from what I know from experiences and everything, I'm convinced that this is there is going to be some type of hiccup.

And that's a human hiccup. And then there might be some type of planet event in response to that hiccup.

And, and, and then after that, the aliens put themselves down. And when, and I'd like to believe it's going to be utopia after that, but I actually believe there will be a lot of humans who will not understand this stuff.

And it will take, you know, generations to fully merge into a world where we are all kind of on the same page about maybe the non human intelligence presence and what is doing.

It's going to be uncomfortable for people too. That's why, you know, we were taken from an early age, you know, the phenomenon is uncomfortable, right?

This isn't lovey-dovey. This is stuff that it's, it's, it's lovey-dovey when you can put yourself there to a lovey-dovey state.

But, you know, the average life of a human being is us having to work for that lovey-dovey.

So, yeah, it's, it's, I'm convinced that it's, it's, it's the right thing that we all want.

In fact, they kind of emphasize and telepathy presently, like, it's going to be peaceful.

Tell them it will be peaceful. Make sure they know what's going to be peaceful.

And that's what they want. They want it to be, you know, yeah, the agitated human to be less agitated and to be at peace.

And then their environment not just allows us to transform when we finally accept that.

So, that allows us to transform into their, their dimension or to interact in their dimensional ways.

And I'm certain once we do that, a whole bunch of other stuff opens up, like portal traveling,

and dimensional tech and stuff that, experiences have been experiencing on crafts.

So, yeah, the stuff all becomes a reality for a society.

Yeah, and then, and I think that kind of gets, we get help from them on how to handle that.

Absolutely. Denise also says, people who don't believe become fearful,

don't fear this change is needed.

Yeah, absolutely agree with that.

Yeah, fear is the big problem actually.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I think that's why so many of us are having contact too.

And I think those of us who come out publicly with our contact is just a small fraction of the total.

But I'm hoping that we can stay calm and rational and pass that on to other people

in, in, in extreme times.

Yeah.

So, people right now all around the world are being pushed beyond their limits for stress tolerance.

Yeah.

And, but quite a, quite a bit of feedback coming back has been, this is temporary.

And it's all going to change.

And it's all going to change very, very soon.

So, I think, like, I don't have a date either, but I think the end of 2026, 2027,

this is going to be landmark for a complete shift in human consciousness.

And boys, it ever overdue.

You know, I, I believe that I can, that I've come to earth, you know, for sole evolution.

But how many times do I have to come back and repeat the crap over and over and over again?

I want to get it right.

I want to, I want to be a good person.

You know, I'm not perfect, but, and I'm not as good as I'd like to be.

But I'll keep working on it and keep working on it.

And then I think that gives me a frequency advantage for making contact.

Right.

And I myself have seen no harm has come to me in any way.

In fact, it's really helped me a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah, protection.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just remember to love that is the frequency.

Absolutely.

If we can love.

But the other thing too is, you know, was it the, the day the earth stood still or whatever,

where the guy comes to earth.

And everybody just shoots them and tries to kill them.

And like, what is that going to stop?

That's so ridiculous.

Yeah.

I've seen video clips of UFOs for lack of a better word.

And they've shot hellfire missiles at the mold.

They didn't have any effect, but still the hell are humans up to?

It's insane.

Yeah.

It's insane.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

It's shoot first asked questions later.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're almost at a time.

I Jeff, but I want to give you a few minutes to share with the audience.

Anything that we didn't quite touch on that you would like to share.

And also remind people where they can find you.

And some people will be listening on audio.

So it's good to say where they can find you.

And of course, I'll have the links below in the description.

Sure.

Okay.

Great.

Well, I always like to end them with, you know, you are God.

That's the whole thing, right?

This is, for me, this is what the whole picture is.

There's our own human empowerment.

And, and you're not a God.

You're the God.

You're, you're the creator.

And it's inside you and it's all around you.

And I think that's a big part of the picture here is that we are lacking our own power.

And, and the whole moral of the story is, you're much more powerful than you know you are.

And, and the universe is on your side while you do it.

So, um, so as far as my book, yeah, my book is available at, uh, so my book is the rising the alien plan to build in a light and city on earth.

And, uh, my name is Jeff Selver.

And, uh, I am the author and you can find my book at my website, which is my full name.

W, W, W, J E F F S E L V E R dot com.

And, uh, basically the story is, uh, 26 contact events with great aliens from 1993 to 2017.

The aliens are still in my life.

I'm still able to film them.

Still received a lepathy.

They're very aware of me being public and, uh, and yeah, things are constantly morphing and changing.

You want to keep up with me, uh, you know, keep up with me on my YouTube channel.

All my links are at my website, www.JeffSelver.com.

On the bottom, you can find my Twitter or X, sorry, Facebook, YouTube.

Uh, everything is there.

Read it.

Everything's there.

And I keep up to date with all my information on those channels.

Yeah.

Wonderful.

Wonderful.

So I'm just going to see if there's any last minute, uh, comments or, uh, here's one from Denise.

Thank you, everyone who joined today.

Much love.

Thank you, Denise.

Denise is awesome.

Uh, she's awesome.

Yeah, she's, she's my moderator.

She puts all the links up for everybody.

She's here for pretty much every show unless there's something comes up and she can't.

Nice.

And, uh, but I also want to thank everybody who comes into the live chat.

You really add a whole nother dimension to the conversation.

I value what you have to say and how you think in your comments.

And I also want.

I also want to thank, um, those that are listening on an audio podcast and those of you who are, um,

perhaps watching a replay anyway.

So, and as we've mentioned, all of Jeff's links are posted.

So you could get a hold of him.

And I hope you will buy his book.

And I hope that you will read it because it can do you nothing but good.

And it certainly will open your mind and prepare you for what's to come.

And, um, and with that, I guess we're pretty much at a time.

Jeff, thank you again for joining us.

Always a pleasure.

Good luck at your conference.

I can't wait to have you back on again.

Maybe you can present some of that information on this show.

And the future will be awesome too.

Yeah.

Love it.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for being here, everybody.

Love it.

Yeah. Thanks, everybody.

Yeah. Me too.

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