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The United States celebrates its 250th anniversary on July 4th. Past presidents have marked similar milestones by reflecting on our complex history, but for President Trump, the commemoration will mark just how great America’s history has always been. Many historians argue that the Trump Administration is whitewashing the nation’s violent past, and for the New Yorker’s Jelani Cobb, it’s just the latest example of Trump weaponizing racial politics. Cobb joins us to talk about America at 250, and why our historical scars matter.
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Jelani Cobb, staff writer, The New Yorker; professor of journalism at Columbia University; author, "Three or More Is a Riot: Notes on How We Got Here: 2012-2025"
Jennifer Schuessler, culture reporter, The New York Times
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