"Andrew Garfield"

0:00How long do they actually fucking talk for? Hey everybody, this is Andrew Garfield and I am this week's guest on a podcast that we can all debate whether it needs to exist. But I'm waiting here as most guests have to do and I didn't realize how long you have to fucking wait. At some point in the near future I will be talking to the guys who do smartness. They said that, but welcome to smartness. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. J, how was the boat ride? Yeah. Um, the were one son of respond publicly.

1:02How is the boat ride? There was so many. And then, I guess, I was saying, I think Schumert posted like a bunch of photos Amy Schummer not Chuck. Although Chuck Schummer's threatening to post some photos of you too, I don't know what that's regarding. Yeah. Many, many, many, many pictures being taken. It was, it was nice. What do you mean? I mean, it was like incredibly, even though it was nice, you're in the middle of directing, you got a little time off and it was nice to get a time, time off. But it was, let's, these are all high class problems. You know, I, you can't really relax because I'm not, I'm not done. I got to leave and frickin' 48 hours to go back to Iceland for a week of shooting in another 11 hour flight and another nine hour time change or more. Like, it's just my body's like, dude, what are you doing? All right. Chill. All right. Listen, again, I hate to go back to it, but according to the shots of the back of the boat, your body looks like it can handle just about anything.

2:05Yeah. Okay. Speaking of which. Willie, I saw some nice shots of you. You had your own little European boating vacation, eating grapes with a hard body of yours. Christ. Everything's, and Shawnee, I saw you, but you posted a picture of you and Scotty. Scottie on the beach. Scottie on the beach. You're just keeping it real up the, up the, up the, up the, up the North Coast of California. Yeah, you know? In the Malibu. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, jet will cause, will FaceTime me working out with no shirt on. Just regular conversation. Hey, what's going on? Doing dumbbells. I'm like, what can you, do you want to wait? Or do you want to talk now? No, I got to get it in. I got to get it in. And then you went, no, no, no, the phone called. You want to wait on that? No, because I want to, I thought about it. I, as soon as I lifted a dumbbell, I was like, oh, Sean. You know what I mean? I got to call Sean. Sean joke. Yeah. It's a good, it's, I was going to say it's victimless, but it's not entirely victimless.

3:06But you know, I got this. So by the way, I went a couple of weeks ago, which has been a minute since we've all been together, I went, did this thing with our pal, Dave Letterman, who we all adore up in Montreal. Well, yeah, I saw the pictures of that. That looked rad. Yeah, that's really fun. It's super fun. And we all adore him and revere him. The best. Yeah, the best. And Sean, he started, we spent, I told you this, but we spent maybe 12 minutes talking about Sean. Jay, you got like 30 seconds, like a passing glance. What? Yeah. But Sean got, and he's like, when you lost the audience. He's like, what about the thing that you gave, that you, Sean takes a lot of hits on the podcast. Yeah. Which we've discussed before. And I'm like, I said, Dave, Sean and I have had this conversation. If I didn't make fun of Sean, he'd think that I was mad at him. Totally. We had this conversation a million times here. And then I told him the story, JB, of when we went to see Sean opening night of Hello Oscar at the Tabasco Theater. And he said, talk about a show.

4:08Hello Oscar. And how we joke around on blah, blah, blah. And then Sean gives this performance. And Jason turns around. I'm sitting right behind Jason. He's got tears in his eyes. And he says, he's ruined the podcast. Yeah. Because he's so talented. He's so talented. He's so much now. We can't make fun of him. We can't make fun of him. He's too good. And I told that story to sort of whatever a couple of thousand people in this theater with Dave. And I said, so just so you know, we all are in awe of what Sean does. That's very nice. Don't look off Sean. Take it. We've talked about this ad nauseam, but I appreciate it. We talked about what Dave and Dave has your back. Dave loves you. I love Dave too. He walked in and he saw a good night Oscar in London. He walked in and I go, do you want a sandwich? And he goes, I have diabetes. So I was like, oh shit. I had no idea. And I'm making fun of his weight. Wait, truly he does or no? Yeah. Oh, no way. Yeah. And then Scotty were like, Scotty and him were like, look, I got the the pod on my shoulder.

5:08He's like me too. And they were like, you know, speaking to Scotty, what about that article I sent you yesterday? The crisis going on in the gay community now with people who love bears. Like the problem with GLP ones now that the bears are drinking. Yeah. I said, I'm going to stick. Well, we've got to protect the bears. Well, the skinny bears are called otters. You know, now they're doing otters. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh, yeah. Now they're turning into otters. If you see a bear, don't shoot, you know, I mean, we shot a king. Unless it's going well. We've got to get unless he asks for it. All right. Anyway, well, so much other stuff to talk about, but we should probably get to it. So is this yours today, Shawnee? This is mine. You guys are going to be so excited. Really? Jay, what if we were like, no, it's yours. No, that's happened before I think. I know it has. You've fumbled through your notes. Guys, my guest today was born in Los Angeles and raised outside of London.

6:09Oh, I've got it. Who? No. He was a competitive gymnast. How about that? No. And a swimmer is a kid, but Quitchimnastic after his 200 pound Russian coach sat on his back during the splits, and he thought, quote, this is not a childhood. He worked at Starbucks until they fired him for sitting down too much. His mom made him a Spider-Man costume for Halloween when he was three years later. He got paid to wear one in three movies. It's the Uber talented and very charming Andrew Garfield. Wow. Andrew Garfield. Hi, should Garfield. I was just talking about you the other day we've never met nice to meet you. No. Were you saying nice things about him? I was. I was showing off. There's a photo of you that came up on Instagram or something, and you were wearing. And because I was, I find myself defending some of the stuff I wear, and you were wearing a phenomenal zip up from Alessay, which I own a different one. And I get a lot of shit for him. I was like, look at Andrew Garfield.

7:09This movie's cool. He looks so good. And he's wearing an Alessay zip up so he shot it. Was it like a vintage one? Yeah. It looks so good. You know the one I'm talking about. It's so good. Yes, I do. Yeah. I appreciate it. Were you wearing the high shorts, too? No, I wasn't wearing the high, I can't pull off shorts generally, but particularly not. I'm sure. You got to be careful. I'd like to be with you guys. I really love you guys. I love this show so much. And yeah, will we have it met? I know Jason a bit. Sean, I don't think we've met. Yeah, but either, but I feel like we should have because we're of the theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we will. We will. We'll do something. Thanks for having us. I'm nervous. I'm, I feel like my intro is a bit ominous. I feel like you guys got so sad, like the Russian guy sitting on my back. And like the, like the, the list of things. Oh, painful. The list of losses of my life. I mean, when I read that, that made me laugh so hard when you're like, when you, as a child, you go, this is not a childhood. I have to leave. I was 13 with a very large Russian guy, you know, on me.

8:10And, and Will, I'm such a huge fan of yours as well. I'm, I'm just a fan of all of you. And I'm so, I'm a little overwhelmed to be. Well, right back at you. Right back at you. Where, where are you? You're in a hotel room somewhere. What are you doing? You assume this is a hotel room, but I designed my house to feel like as a million years of hotel room. I'm so pleased. That was a little bit of a faux pas early on that, Jason. But I, I know this is, it's the, the, the Crosby Street hotel room 601, if anyone's interested. Wow. Wow. This is live. Wow. Dores unlocked. Ass up. Dores open. By the way, I really, like, I, I hope you guys keep in all of the very platonic, homoerotic intro that you guys, it was like the most homoerotic you guys have gone in a while. It's been a minute. It's been a minute. It'll, it's coming. There's more coming. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a service you guys are providing, I think, for men around, around the world. So, Sean, you just reminded me of my buddy of speaking of homoeroticism, my buddy,

9:10who was on one of these, these dating sites, the, not a grindable, but a different one. That's even more just immediate hookup thing. Yeah, yeah. And, and he got on in the guy, sent him a picture of himself with his butt in the air, winking, winking, and he just wrote, howdy. My buddy's like, no. Howdy. Swipe. All right. So, if you're in New York, you are promoting something. What are you promoting? Right now, I'm promoting a family film called The Magic Fireway Tree, which is an Edid Blighten book that was made into a film by Simon Farnaby, who made the wrote the Paddington movies. Oh, God. So, something very different I'm promoting is a Paul Greengrass movie called The Uprising, which is about the Peasant's Revolt in the 30 hundreds, and has a slightly different tone to it. Holy shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I read a few Edid Blighten books as a kid. I don't remember any peasant uprisings.

10:12Yeah. Wait, that sounds like a very uncomfortable shoot. A peasant war film. I'm not imagining a lot of luxury on that one. Walk us through the pain. Jason's just thinking, at the end, when you wrap, are you going to shower in the trailer? You don't want to use the water in the trailer. Oh, right. So now you've got to do the ride back to the hotel with the guy with the... That'd be Fabrics. Oh, this fuck. Yeah, it's thinking of Stinky Fabrics. Chuck Schumer is definitely not waiting for me on a yacht in any kind of port at the end of a shoot day. Where did you shoot that? We were in Munich. We were in Munich. We were shooting... Because there's a lot of medieval architecture still in Germany, weirdly. So we were shooting around... We're mostly in one field in Munich. That was being doubled for a lot of different peasant fields in Munich. It was miserable. But in that way of the best possible misery. Yeah. And you guys love Paul's movies. Yeah, of course. I mean, I can't believe it.

11:13Captain Phillips in the porn movies and news of the world. He's just like an incredible filmmaker. Yeah. And I think that's one of those team captains that kind of makes you want to suffer for him. You know what I mean? Where it's like, oh no, I want to suffer as much as possible for this man because he's going to... Because he's driving. Yeah. Jason would you... I was going to say, Jason, would you say that Woody and Sam are saying that they're suffering for you right now? Was it that fair assessment of what they're going through? Yeah. They're just trying to keep me awake. Yeah. No. Yeah, Paul Greengrass does seem like one of those guys who it's all in venture. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was an amazing... And it's a really good group of actors as well. It's Tom Hollander, who's incredible. And Jamie Bell and Cosmo Jarvis, Catherine Waterston, Stephen Delane, like a kind of murderous row of great British actors. And it's like a proper ensemble. And he's... And it's like this historical drama, but he's shooting it like he shoots, which is

12:14all handheld. You're in the action. You're kind of viscerally with the characters. And it's powerful. And it's like... It goes like a freight train. It's like a very fast paced historical drama. Can I just say another sort of... Can I just... You mentioned Stephen Delane. And I've said this before, this is one of the most underrated actors of our time, Stephen Delane. 100%. He's an incredible actor. Where would I know him from? Yeah. I mean, a million people. He's... I'll know his face if I saw him. 100%. Oh, yeah. 100%. He's breathtakingly incredible, right? Andrew, am I right about that? Yeah. No, he is one of the greats. And it's one of those careers where you're like, oh man, that's kind of the dream. Where Jason Bateman doesn't exactly know who I am. Yeah. Yeah. You know where it's like... Oh, he knows that I'm great, but he doesn't know anything about me or my personal life. Oh, yes. And he would definitely cost me in a room. How was you, Stephen?

13:15Stephen Delane. D-E-I-L-L-A-N-E. He... Jay, you know, your wife loves him, lay breaking. And he was in that English version of when they did the bridge that Swedish Danish show and they made it called the tunnel. It was a UK French copro. I like saying copro. It makes me sound like I know what I'm talking about. For sure. And I remember talking about him with Amanda and just both of us just going like, this guy is incredible. I mean, he's amazing. Do you find him, Jay? The tunnel, the TV series, yeah, because you're spelling undelain, you're... How much of a time do we have? No, it's still like, still pickle. Guys, welcome, Stephen Delane. Here he is. I've got... Andrew, how good you're Stephen Delane in pressure. There he is. Oh, no, I'm not much of a fan of this guy. No. Oh, shit. Can you imagine after all that, see, guys, I had to make it worth it.

14:20No, he's a writer. I see. I see what you're saying. Yes. This is a guy. You see him in any project, you're like, oh, we're in good hands here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I see the meaning. Well, but you know, I was going to wait till the end to talk about this, Andrew, but since we're talking about projects, we are at the end of that house. That was Stephen Delane in Google. Exactly. No, but two projects I thought are really, really cool. One is by a friend of mine, you called Wild Things, where you play Roy of Sigfried and Roy. John Hoffman, are you friends with John? Yeah, John Hoffman, yeah. I love John Hoffman. He plays the best. Oh, wow, yeah, you just finished working with Jude. Yeah, we just did... You play Sigfried and Roy, which is awesome. Yeah, it's... I'm excited about it. It's... Do you imagine and more? It's like more is more is more is more is more with those two. You know, the gay German magicians in the desert and with the tigers and the lions and... That old... That old story. That old classic tale, that old...

15:21Yeah, yeah. The old time again. The old time again. But fucking hell, these guys were truly... Or the guy I play was truly insane. Roy Horn, he was the tiger magician, but literally believed and was convinced and maybe truly did have some spiritual connection to his tigers, to animals generally. Did you use real animals? No, no, no, no, legally allowed to do that. I did feed a tiger with my hand. Yeah, I don't know. That's... That's pretty good. That's pretty good. We didn't... Was one of the maw'd forgive me if you... Yeah, of course. Of course, I was... You're forgiven. You're forgiven. We don't say mold. We don't say mold though. We say there was an incident. There was a thing that happened. There was an event. Was it your character that had the event? Yeah, Roy. Yeah. But the guy you had the... The guy you had the magical connection to. Jason. Jason. Jason. Jason. Jason. He ate his face off for something, didn't he?

16:23Oh, Sean. I'm sorry. I just read that he ate his face off. He ate his new mitts. No, sorry. There was an incident. So what's remarkable about it is... I don't know. Of course, I'm defending him because I feel like I... His representative on this earth. He... So 40 years he worked with these animals. And there was no incident with him ever. And there was one night in 2003, where the tiger went tiger and decided for whatever reason that night that he was gonna bite down on his master's neck and drag him to his cage. And there's lots of different kind of theories about why the... How do you... A tiger is a tiger? How can you... You have no idea. But there are lots of theories and one of the things that the show explores is why on this particular night did things go wild. But he survived it. His face is intact. And... But then he died during COVID. He like recovered.

17:24He did lots of rehab. He kind of... They got back on stage with the tigers. They were... Savage. They were like just these incredible kind of like gay German warrior magicians. They were like some of the strongest... Roy particularly was this kind of, I don't know, monster. It was an amazing, amazing man. Wow. I can't wait to see that. Wait, but Andrew, you're also playing... And then by the way, then we'll be done because you have 18 other projects, which is really exciting. But you're playing Artifix. You play Sam Altman in a movie. Was he on the yacht with you, Jason? Was he on... Was Sam on the yacht? He's on a boat nearby. Yeah. So for Tracy, Sam Altman created chat GPT. You created OpenAI. And so... That's really cool, man. I mean, that's going to be a really great story. That's the look Guadagnino. You got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm nervous about that one. I'm really scared about that one. What about the backlash? Well, yeah. I mean, like, you're playing one of arguably... You guys take a point of view on it? I mean, one...

18:24I hope we've taken a point of view on it. And it will be, you know, seen. And people will have their own opinions about it. Yeah, I mean, like, playing one of the arguably the most powerful people on this planet right now or interpretation of whoever this person... I have no idea. I've never met Sam Altman. I don't know anything about the interior of his soul. I just had to do something. You know, I had to interpret what I understood, what I saw, what I read, what I, you know, I don't know what my imagination gave me, what the script gave me. But it's like, he could definitely... He probably has hacked my phone. And he probably is observing every move I make. Does the film take a position that this is something, either ominous or something that is positive or... What, what, what, what, what... I think it focuses on him getting kind of ousted from the company and then back in and stuff. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's part of it. I think I would hesitate to kind of preamble to be...

19:26I kind of want people to... Sure. ...to watch it and to find their position. I hope we're not villainizing anyone or making anyone into a hero. Or I hope it's... No, what Lucas films do, he gets into the gray area of what it is to be human, obviously. So... Don't you think it's wild? You're going to be part of that. And you're part of the other kind of big, you know, tech movement with social network, which you were great in. And if you want to tell Will and Jason, or do you want me to tell Will and Jason what I want to... Just tell me. Don't tell Jason. What a woman once tweeted about your laptop smashing scene. I'm happy for you to share this. Okay. I mean, it's something like she wanted you to... She wanted you to smash your laptop on her tits or something. Oh, yeah. Because she... I gotta rewatch that. Yeah, yeah. Is that it? Hang on, let me pull that up real quick. I mean, that is insane. That is insane. We don't know how fast you are at Google.

20:26So... My dial-up service is not what it was. Wait, she... Wait, what are you talking about? She tweeted that she wanted to smash. And she was serious. And then you met her. No way. Yeah, that's great. She showed up at a Q&A. And she was holding a sign saying, I'm the one that wants you to smash a laptop on my tits. Wow. Did she ask a question at this TNA? Yeah, Q&A. Nice. Nice, nice. Guys, it's low-hanging fruit, still fruit. Low-hanging fruit, still fruit. And we will be right back. And now back to the show. So wait, so that is a particularly... Now, social networks, one of my favorite movies, I don't recall a particularly memorable level of hotness while you're destroying a laptop. Was there... Did you do it in a hot way? It was subjective. And I guess it's not something that you're into.

21:28Jason, and that's OK. Was your top off or something when you did it? No, I was just full of the powerful justice scene. Yeah, I was like... Finture didn't say, Finture was like, hey, you're going to smash the left. Hey, let's go tarps off on this one, huh? Hey, Garfield, you're going to go tarps off on this, eh? I see it. Can you get your nips hard real quick? Let's roll. Let's roll, eh? Can we get some nice, nice, nice roll? Yeah, let's roll, eh? Let's get this fired up here. Let's go tarps off on Garfield on one. Tarps off. There's no way that David Fincher would have been as successful as he is if he was Canadian. There's no way. There's no way. I'm realizing that in real time. Wait, what happened? But Jason, have you not seen the outtake of Andrew doing... And I'm not even kidding. How many takes and how many laptops did you smash? No, I have to smash. I think it was... I don't know, 30, 40. I don't know. It was a little... 30 laptops. 30 laptops, yeah. Yeah, you have those rage rooms. You have it on like a rage room where you get like a baseball bat and you get given a bunch of shit to smash up.

22:32Oh, no. Yeah, where are those? You have to... I'm going to have to... I know I've had, I have never. I want to smash stuff. It's a... Yeah, it's a great... It's a place that you can... So, would you like Andrew to come over and... You have a couple laptops that need smashing up. And I have 10, the hard drive needs to be erased. All right, but you did a family film that you're promoting now. And what do you... You got any little... Oh, I'm waiting, I've gotten into trouble asking this before. I was going to ask you if you have any kids. Am I allowed to ask that? Oh, dare you. Yeah, honestly, how could you? Well, you can ask next my age. What is this? I don't think I was coming on the patriarchy podcast. I... Maybe some people... The handmade tale, fucking... It's my bad, I am a child. I'm 42 and I'm childless. And I'm not entirely proud of that. Like, I would love to have kids. I would love to start a family. It's just normal.

23:32You offered that, I didn't ask that. You kind of did. But so... But because usually you hear about folks doing a family film because... Well, you know, I do stuff my kids can't see. And so I want to finally do a movie that my kids can see. That's usually the story you hear. Sounds just like... Yeah. This, you just... You love this book. Well, you know what? I love Simon Farnaby. I love those pattington movies so much that I've been like... Yeah. Advocate for that. I love those films. And Simon is just a great heartfelt comedy writer. And I had wanting... I had been wanting to do something a little easier in a way to be honest. Is that okay to say? Like... Yes, yes, yes. I just kind of wanted to have a nice time. Instead of throwing potatoes at peasants and stuff. You wanted to do something in the soundstage, right? Yeah. I needed a break from throwing potatoes at peasants. Thank you, so it's the first time I feel really understood. Jason. Yeah, no, I... It was really lovely. It was just a lovely time.

24:32And it's heartfelt. And it's about, you know, getting kids back in touch with themselves, with each other, with nature, with their own nature, with the family unit, with community. And, you know, it's not anti-technology, but there's a kind of, like, a kind of an awareness around how technology may or may not be screwing things up for us. And it's just lovely. And I have nephews and I have godkids. And there was something very sweet about making this film and having it. My friends who have young kids come and see it. And it was the best reviews I've ever had in my life. It was like... Yeah, honestly, it was like voice-know after voice-know after voice-know of just raves from the 7, 8, 9, 10-year-olds that I have a connection with. It was honestly like, why am I done anything other than this up until now? Because this is so much more pleasurable. It was... I have had that experience. You guys have too. When you do stuff that is more sort of family-oriented and whatever,

25:32the response is pretty rat. And when you meet a kid who's like, super into something that you did, it's so much more gratifying. Just watching their minds get blown when they're introduced. Like, well, I bet a million times you've done, like, Lego Batman voice, pretty young kid. And they're like, oh my god. I don't understand. Like, their mind kind of breaks a little bit. Yeah. And sometimes people, you know, come up to you and you're with your kids and you're getting ice cream out here with my kids or whatever. And somebody comes up and wants to say, hey, but when it's a kid who comes up in that way and is like a big fan of, like, as you say, like, Lego Batman or something, it is very gratifying, really, in a different way. Yeah. Or like when a kid comes up and says, I don't know, I have no idea who you are. Yeah, I don't know who you are. And when you did, you were a kid. They thought you were... Like, I'd say a sin? Yes. Right, Jason? Yes. Jason, one time, burned me the greatest burn that I'm super jealous of until this huge story about...

26:32We were with, on stage with Matt Damon, and I told this story about Brad Pitt, you know, complimenting this thing. And how psyched that was, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, gushing like a little kid. And Jason paused Jason and goes, who do you think you thought you were? After getting a compliment from Brad Pitt? Yeah, we're just so good at some jealous of him. So Andrew, tell me about growing up. You were born in Los Angeles, but how did you then grow up in England? Because you were born here? Yeah. My mom, my mom was from Essex, from England. She met my dad in London. And then my dad's from LA. It's a longer story. But we don't have time. We don't have time. I'm getting it. Stephen Delane thing. We met in London. My dad was from LA. He moved back to LA with her, had me and my brother. And we were living in Marina Del Rey in the 80s, which was not Marina Del Rey now.

27:32And my mother was a kind of small town girl from the outskirts of London, now suddenly in the middle of gang warfare in Marina Del Rey. And then she's gay factory. Let's not forget about that. She's gay factory. Been this is 83. And there was a Jerry's, there was a Jerry's Delhi too. There was a nice Jerry's Delhi there. Oh, wait. She paints a much more kind of brutal picture of Marina Del Rey. I call my mother a liar. Is that what you're calling my mother? Oh, yeah. We heard. Jerry, Jason, you pants me once in the parking lot of that Jerry's Delhi. Wow, you're going to wear sweatpants? You're going to lose them. And I was wearing sweatpants. We were going to wear, we paused outside the restaurant and then he panced me in the middle. You're like I didn't tip you over afterwards either. What year was this? I will be gay. This is 2004. We were 34, 35. We were all hopped up from cake. From the cheeky factory. And you weren't losers. You were like cool guys. Cool guys. And then you did, when you got into gymnastics, I was in gymnastics here.

28:37I was good at the pommel horse and like the floor event. You were a formal horse guy. I didn't, but I didn't stick with it. Well, but Sean, in a pinch, could you do like a backward hand spring, like a, like a flip? I can do like a round off of cartwheels now at this stage, but I could, but I could do all that stuff when I was younger. Yeah, just for a little bit. Andrew, gun to your head right now. Would you be able to do like a half-ass floor exercise? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. A little high. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I think my back out, my knees would be fucked and I'd be ruined. I'm sorry. Just pay me a picture. What is the gun to the head to do this? What is it? Oh, a guard. Some holy guard. You're like, I have Andrew Guyfield. You boy. Do something. Do it, exercise wheels. Do it. Fuck it. What? You're playing it up in this scenario. I would lose my head. I would not be able to do much of anything. I kind of think I'd be able to do a summer salt. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you could try. And then you left gymnastics.

29:38Your father became a swimming shirt, then you were swimming. I mean, and then but so but just I'll finish the thing about. So my mom basically was like, I'm out. I'm not. I don't want to be here anymore in LA. Sorry to go back to that. I felt like there was like a tent. I have a weird thing where there's a thread undone. I have to. She got tired of the 90 freeway. And is she one of the 90s? She got tired of the 90s. And she said, are you coming if not don't worry. Kind of thing. And my dad was okay. I guess we'll go back. We'll go back to England. So I was raising the end there. Yeah, gymnastics. And I love gymnastics. I really did. Like the first time I did like a backhand from a back summer salt. I felt like I had unlocked some weird secret code to my body into like flying. It felt like flying. It was very, very cool. Yeah, yeah. And then it became something, you know, you know what happens when you're a kid and you're like good at something. And you have a father who, you know, is quite a competitive animal. Yeah. It starts to become less fun because suddenly, you know, it's either a gold medal or you, you know, you don't get love.

30:38No, not literally, but like in some way. Yeah. I know you mean that. The guys are just kind of like laughing at me. No. Like, we're all the human or our fathers. No, we're all the human or our fathers. So then you stopped doing that because it got a bit too stressful. Yeah. How soon after that did you find acting? And was he supportive of that? Well, yeah, this is what's kind of beautiful is the, we, so I was swimming for, he was my swimming coach for a while. And again, that became another thing. And I kind of just let everything go when I was a teenager because, yeah, it's like, like one of my favorite movies, like, it's like the Truman Show. It felt like the Truman Show. I was like, if this is all there is, there has to be more. And I was being raised in a kind of small town in the south of England. And I didn't have any kind of idea that a life in the arts was a life to be had. I thought it would leave you destitute because kind of on heroin. That was the kind of like the horror stories that were being kind of given to me. And then I, it was my mum.

31:38My mum saw how kind of lost I was. And thankfully I was that lost because without being lost, I wouldn't have found the thing that really set me up for the rest of my life, hopefully, which was, I tried painting, I tried music, I tried sculpting, and I was fine at them and I enjoyed them. But then when I did my first acting class and I did my first play, which was, I played fat Sam and Bugsie Malone at my local community theatre. And it was one of my favourite movies of the Alan Parker movie, it was one of my favourite movies of all time. And I felt a kind of a close, I felt close to myself in a way that I maybe hadn't felt, I felt a sense of purpose. And then I had a drama teacher that came into high school that kind of mentored me and saw me and said, I think you have something to give here. And that was kind of all I needed. And then yeah, I had to weirdly, my dad was very resistant at first, because he was just scared like any good boomer father would be of me, not surviving as an actor. Right. He was very, very concerned with me just like having a roof over my head and like living. And also I thought that was interesting when I read to that point,

32:40that you grew up with no money and then your family started this business and then went bankrupt and then, you know, from there, it's just like, God, what am I, I'm sure that feeling that your dad had for you was partly because of that. Well, he's been trying to forget it, but thanks for bringing it up. Talk about the darkest time in your family's life, family, real quick. So then was he really like a hard ass about, well, yeah, fine. You can do the acting stuff, but you're going to go to college and you're going to study a backup career? Yeah, business. He wanted me to go into business, whatever that means. It did you. No, no, I did, I did like an A level, which is like an SAT and business in England. And it was, I got to be, he was fine. But I'll tell you a cool story. Like, so I go to drama school for three years and he kind of backs me. He's like, okay, if this is what you want to do, I'm going to, I'm going to help you do it. So I did three years after high school, after high school, three years university course in acting in a great drama school called Central, which I loved. And, and then I started working in theater, but I was still having to like do a bunch of, you know,

33:45our jobs and Starbucks. I was a cricket coach for a while. I did a lot of, you know, waiting tables, the usual thing. Yeah. And then, you know, there was a couple of moments on the, on the journey on the way that he, that me and him really started to connect. One was getting Spider-Man obviously and I kind of, I think I called him straight away. I was like, fuck that business degree motherfucker. Right. Reboy made it kind of fair. And he was like, you don't have to worry anymore. And, and then I did Death of the Salesman, which is a great play that, with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Philip Seymour Hoffman and, and yeah, Mike Nichols directing. Wow. So, that opening night, and it was like a lot of whatever dynamics we had to heal, father and son dynamics, we kind of started to really heal through me doing that play and him seeing me do that play and realizing that we had, we had some wounds that we shared, that the, that the, that it is generational, that it is handed down generation to generation. These, this, not enoughness wound or whatever that I think a lot of men have.

34:47Yeah. I certainly do that I work with all the time. But, and then the kind of, the third, and it was, it kind of was revealed in my discussions with him that he had this unmet dream of wanting to be a writer. He's, he's a very charming charismatic storytelling guy. He's very, he's into art and culture. He's just, it's just a been a buried dream of his for a long time. So, it was super interesting. And he would tell the story of driving past Fox Studios when he was, he had a shipping company in L.A. And moving company in L.A. He would drive past Fox Studios and just imagine Dream and wonder what was happening behind those gates. And there was, there was a night where he was out with my mum to visit me in L.A. It was the night before the Oscars where I, I was nominated for the, for the, for the, for the first time I was nominated for an Academy Award. And I said, hey, there's a party tonight. I want to take you guys to and, yeah, he's like, where is it? Where are we going? I'm like, I know, well, well, you'll, you'll find out. And we're driving and he's like telling stories about L.A. and his memories of L.A.

35:50And we start pulling up to Fox. He's like, ah, Fox, this is where I used to dream and wonder. And we start pulling in to, to the Fox, which is where that night before party is, is, is, is held. And he, he looked to me and he just started bawling his eyes out. I said, well, you're going to find out that it's actually not that interesting. What happened on the other side of these gates? But at least you'll, at least you'll, you'll know. And it was a, and we had a very beautiful, beautiful breakfast the next morning, the, the day of the Oscars. Because, you know, we are competitive people and we like winning stuff, but it's also been very tied in with our sense of identity, our sense of selves as kind of Garfield men. And we kind of healed a lot of that. But still it was a beautiful thing to be able to like share like a big achievement of like an Oscar nomination with my dad in that way. It's amazing. Let me put it great as a Garfield man, as you said, as you said. Do you hate Mondays? No. Do you love lasagna? Very good. Do you, I love that you had that moment with your dad and that he was able to express like in a really sort of real emotional, unguarded way, how he felt.

37:04And what a great lesson to learn from your dad, even, even, you know, you weren't a kid anymore. But even just to see, to get that kind of example of that, I think is really, really important and so meaningful, man. Is he still with us, Andrew? Oh, very much so, yeah. He's in England. Yeah, yeah, he's, he's writing. And now he's writing like he's just writing for pleasure and he's really talented. And he's, yeah, we have the, like, I think the proudest thing of my life is my relationship with, with my dad. And to see, as you say, will it like to see someone allow themselves to evolve in that later stage of life through their kid as, as their kid is trying to break free and evolve and individuate and, and free themselves of something that's holding them back from feeling fully joyful in their life. It's so, I, I tip my head. And you being old enough to see your, your father as a, as a, as a co adult, you know, somebody like as we get older, as a person, our parents become so human to us.

38:08It can be off putting at times, but also just, obviously, really enlightening. It's amazing how we all become sort of equals. We get older. Yeah, yeah, I think, and, and I've seen you, I've seen you speak on and, and, and I've seen sort of quotes of yours over the years, talk about one of the things that, that I love about you is the way that you talk about your, how, how open you are about various things. I've talked about grief quite, quite openly, or in the last few years, in a way that I think is so, so admirable in the way that you're able to do that. It really sets such a great example. And certainly just for me, John, Q public to read that and see the, you talk about really touch me and allowed me to kind of go like, oh, I, I want to be that open. I want to be in as in touch with my feelings about certain things. I think it's pretty, that's pretty awesome. That means a lot. That's great. Well, and you, you had now a famous quote, Andrew, about grief, which I love, which is, you said grief is all the unexpressed love.

39:15Yeah. Yeah. And I thought I was like, oh, I had to think about that. I was like, oh, yeah, because I try to, I try to tell people how I feel now, even if it makes them uncomfortable, I'm uncomfortable. I don't want to save. I want to save all that love and, and, and emotion for when they're dead or I'm dead. It's like now's the time, you know, but even with, and even with that, even with saying, like, my relationship is, you know, talking about my mother, who passed away just before in 2019. Even with, because I told her I loved her all the time, even with all that, there was still, there still is this kind of chasm of grief that's never going to be fully, you know, the love is, that was the remarkable thing in that experience. For me was like, oh, shit, like the love is truly never ending. Like it's like, it's, it's infinite. It's like, it's infinite. And it doesn't stop. Just, it won't stop when I die. I don't know. I found that quite, quite touching and quite beautiful. And yeah, I guess like, I remember like being a young actor and looking up to certain people and wanting them to be as real as possible in the world, not just in their films or in their films.

40:26Or in their plays or in their music, I wanted like to feel like it was okay for me to be as kind of fucked up as I was in the head and in the heart and in the body. And so there, I don't know, I find it interesting to kind of try to deconstruct the rules of our culture. Like it's like, why can't we talk about how fucking shitty it is to lose your mind? Like, like, why can't, why is grief a taboo thing? It doesn't make any sense to me in our culture. So it was kind of fun to be able to, kind of fun. It's kind of a lightweight putting it like, I didn't expect so many people to feel a resonance or a kind of freedom because of that. But yeah, it was a very, it's a very, yeah, I find it very beautiful. It's also, we're a little bit, I think as actors, we get the privilege, the opportunity to explore so many different parts of ourselves and emotions as well that, you know, you have to, because the script says, you know, you're going through a breakup or something like that.

41:30You have to sort of like explore all that stuff. And so maybe just the, the idea of dealing with that in your own personal life is not such a foreign and scary thing because we tend to be practiced at some of these kind of oddly shaped emotions and characters, right? Yeah, no, definitely. It's a nice part of it. And on that, Andrew, what, you know, you do, you do so much great work and play so many different characters in different genres and different formats. What is it that, what is it that you like most about what you do to just ask you like the most base sort of simple question? I mean, there's so many different parts to it. But is there one thing that if you, the same guns to your head, you have to say, what is the thing that I have this fucking Garfield that might dispose of? One more question, Mr. Garfield. Why does he have so much access to me? How does he like, I was always in the room. I own this fucking guy because you told him your broom number.

42:41We'll be right back. And back to the show. Is there one thing that gets you most excited when you open up your eyes to start your work each day? Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to be, oh God, overly sincere about these things. But, but, but, but it's like it's a life saving job. I think this job saved my life in the sense that like, I remember, do you guys really aga see? Um, but I've heard I should I hear that fucking hell. It's so good. And it's about an athlete and an athlete that hates the sport that he hates tennis. Like the first line is I hate tennis. And it's like him and his father and all this stuff. And he has this moment in the middle of the book where he's like, I played for the US Olympic team. And we won gold. And I'm stood there with my fellow USA players. And I first thought to myself for the first time. Maybe I love tennis.

43:42And I found that so deeply moving because for me, it's like, if I can be a part of a team, if I can be a part of a community that's doing something that is greater than each individual. And it's somehow a service in some way. And if I get to go to all these emotional places that were not allowed to go to another, another, you know, areas of our life, I feel just like so alive, so joyful to be alive. And like the luckiest person in the world. So it's really feels to me when it's about like, if it's about some kind of service to something greater, some spiritual kind of pursuit, then I'm like, it's. And the team effort of it too. Yeah, yeah, collect. There's a collective. There's a collective thing. And the majority of the things I do have that kind of quality. I think I do seek out a kind of that kind of quality. Certainly with like the uprising, it's about revolution. And it's about what happens when the soul of a person or the soul of a group gets abused and kicked and beaten to the point where it says no more either die or we change everything.

44:52Like what that's an amazing journey to try to understand and go and obviously like universal like throughout history. And right now there's people who are feeling that soul squeezed to the point of. She has to change or it's to what a day is a good day to die in the pursuit of that change. Right. And the money. You know, no. What about what about what about what about what about what about like location like part of the world like how much do you how much time do you take when you consider these jobs because imagine you've got a bunch of different choices that conflict. Do you consider where you're going to be on the planet? How long it's been since you've been home. That's a new thing for me. I'm thinking about that more as I get older I think I think like in my 20s and 30s it was like I'll go anywhere anytime. And I'll devote myself to this in a way that's probably a little unhealthy. But but now I definitely feel I don't know man like shit time is ticking like it's not that awareness that it's not.

45:56Where is where is home. Sorry. We're we're speaking. Where is. Okay. I'm in most in London, but I'm a little bit in LA as well where you guys are I think. Yeah. Yeah. What is it when when you when you consider taking something that's in a far away land and going to be gone for a while. What what are the what are the top three things that you think you're going to be missing and that you're going to be sacrificing? Is it certain relationships? Is it certain future comforts? Is it. No, it's all relationships really like it's all it's relationship. But it's also my my my my home and my relationship to my home like I have a. I've created a little home for myself in London that is it feels like an old friend at this point. So whenever I'm there I feel like. Oh yeah, this is this is where I can just be and and yeah and my family and very close my family and very close with my nephews and my brother and my dad still and. Yeah, my old school lights my old friends are from high school. That's like my my closest friend. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, are you still is that still your sort of friend group. You're all your friends from high school and yeah, friends. I have a core group of about five or six friends from high school and like that's like I think that they've certainly saved me from.

47:04Myself they've got to be thrilled for you where did they have it? Did they have a comfortable time a decent time sort of adjusting and adapting to them sharing you with the world. They fucking love it. They love it because not only can they ride the coattails they can also like rip the piss out of me like they have free reign they have like green light to. What have you taken the most heat from. Oh Jesus Christ. I mean, it's a good running you on spider. I think I think when they see me trying to be sexy in any way. Yeah, like an award show. Let's see. Yeah. Give me the steamy look. You look at me in the eyes. I can't. I'm Andrew. I just have one spider man question and I won't go on and on. I just this I did not know that it's is it true that you and Toby McGuire each have an actual species of spider named after you and apparently Tom Holland does not.

48:07That right. Yeah, but Tom Holland has a good gillian dollars. So I think yeah, fine. Yeah, but I don't want you like I. Oh, it's true. I think I yeah, I believe I believe so. It's one of those things that you've kind of forget happened because it's just too abstract to be able to. Is it a garfield spider? I don't I have no I honestly don't know Sean Sean. All right. Well, Iraq. Or a acknowledges name the Iranian species. Pritha Garfield are Garfield and Philly stata McGuire I in honor of the of you guys. That's pretty easy. Now you know. Wow. And none of those words I probably so it is customary for me with someone like you who's done so much theater to ask you. Any crazy theater stories always start with one of my own just to make you feel like it's okay to share mine is I just did this one man show called the unknown and I played all 10 different characters. Oh, no. You are. It felt like 20 men. Bring it all the way.

49:08That was insane. I thought. So this Russian guy is everywhere. He's now me. I was waiting the theater. No, but he's made his way into the back with the Italian. They still can't find him. He just runs around for a while. Yeah. And every now and then David Fincher is somewhere in the mix. I don't think of myself as the Canadian David Fincher. Sorry. Go ahead. Sean what's your theater story? So my theater story is one night one of my. Sorry, one man show it played 10 characters. One night one of my characters asks another character question. And I stood there waiting for the answer for a really long time. And then I go, oh shit, I'm that guy too. I swear to God, after 50 shows, your mind starts to go crazy. And I asked the question to the character. I was literally waiting for the answer. I was like, oh, I'm that guy too. Oh, my God. It was the worst feeling. It was so scary. That's cool. Like a mini mental breakdown. That's like, yeah, I think that's the link.

50:08But anything in Angels in America or death of a salesman or anything? Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely. I think it was one of the first previews of Angels in America that we did in London. And it's after, you know, it's a nine hour show. And it's the first time we're doing, you know, all of it back to back on a Saturday. And yeah, fuck. And I can't, I don't know how that, I don't know how any of us survived it. Truly, like it's ridiculous. But there's a big climax at the end of the second part where I have to fight an angel on stage. And the angel is on a harness. And at one point, she goes up on wires and I'm like holding onto her. And I like pulled around the rafters off the ground during this very, very technical fight. And to get set, I have to put my hands through loop holes by her waist with my, and I'm wearing like a hospital gown with my ass out facing the audience. And I'm like, okay, it's our first time doing this in front of an audience.

51:08And I get set. And I'm like, right down at the front of the stage, my ass is towards the audience. And I'm like, pretending to wrestle this angel. And I'm like, set, set, set. And then nothing happens. We just stay on the ground. We're meant to be lifted. So we're just like on the ground, on the ground. And as we all know, like just the awful feeling of having to pretend like everything is fine. So I'm like, continuing to wrestle. I'm just kind of like, right. I'm doing the worst, continual wrestle movement with my ass facing the audience. And it's, I think it's about a minute and a half that I'm just doing this one, possibly awful movement. Guy backstage is trying to find the right rope to pull. And the stage manager who is this very sweet nerdy, Northern Guy, comes out. And like, the dramatic music stops. And I'm still doing this awful wrestle, this, I'm actually so. I'm so sorry everybody, we've had some technical difficulties, we'll be right back with you.

52:09After like eight hours of a show, the curtain comes down and my ass is still to the whatever. And the curtain comes down and we fix it. And I get back in the position after like five minutes, I stick my ass at the audience again and the curtain comes out and I'm still doing the rest of it. And of course, like it works and the audience go fucking crazy. Because that's what they want. They want the worst shit that could possibly happen to happen. And it's to be recovered and they're part of like something that could never have happened otherwise if they had come any other night. But it was, I'm sweating talking about it. Do you actually just made a really good point about the sort of, they're part of something that could never happen again in the exact same way or otherwise? Is that part of the allure to you of theater of those? No, you think, I wonder what you guys think about this. I feel like, I mean, maybe this is a very obvious thing to say, but I feel like that's where we're heading now. We're heading back towards live immersive. 100%. 100%. Yeah.

53:10It feels like one of the last commodities that I'm going to be valued. One thing AI can't do. Well, yeah, it's an experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like an actual live comedy or music or theater or storytelling. It's going to be a huge, yeah. I think so. I don't know. And also, what about like orchestral music too, right? Which is what it used to be like. There was no recordings of anything. You had to go to the opera house or whatever it was and watch Beethoven conduct his symphonies. Like you had to buy an album and hear it. Gun to your head. Yeah. Symphony, you're going to listen to it. Hammercocked. Wait. The whole something. Now, Andrew, you know, Jason will know and people know that I love every once in a while, like having a gummy. Just because it like it's relaxing. A weed gummy. A weed gummy, yeah. And you want to celebrate a. Just like every once in a while. Yeah, what's this every once in a while? Did you run out of garbage?

54:10Yeah, I did run out actually. I need some more. You want celebrated turning 29 by eating pot brownies at Disneyland. Please tell me how that went. Yeah, it was one of the old times. Because that sounds fun. Great days. Yeah, no, it was one of the old time great days. You ride rides though? I think I would puke. Yes. No, no, no, I did. And we didn't. One of us did. George had to get off crew. Like what's that California where you're kind of like. Oh, yeah, California. California. California. Yeah, he couldn't we we rode that a few times. He only he couldn't manage two times. And yeah, so George had a tough a tough run of it for a moment. We all had tough moments. It was like a group of like eight or nine of us and we all kind of, you know, got each other through those those kind of trenches moments. And it was great. Each one of us dipped at a different moment. So it was like a little bit like Wacomall. There was like a corn dog moment that we had where I was really struggling. Oh, hang on. But there was one really, I think the best moment, the best moment was the simplest moment of the day, weirdly, where we transitioned from Disneyland to the California adventure

55:14theme park part of Disneyland. And there's that song. California. Here we come right back where we started. That was coming emanating from the speakers and the trees. One after the other, we all looked around and realized that we were all doing the exact same jaunty little walk dance. Like happy bears. We were doing the exact same. And it was like, that's funny. It was like we could have had some caps and stems in this. No, it was purely, it was purely weed. And we were so aligned. We were so aligned. We were aligned with the cosmos in that moment. And we, apart from, and we had, you know, we, it was fancy. We was like 29th birthday. So we pulled out all the stops. We got one of the guides to take us around. One of those Disney guys and her name was Shantel. And she may have been an AI robot because she did not betray any knowledge of what was

56:17moving through us. And she was just so like, she was like Disney adult joyful. I think they're pretty accustomed there now to folks just tripping balls when they go to out. There's like, there's two kinds of people. There's either like the wholesome family, you know, get the little kids and the strollers and all that stuff. Or the people. There's the shaggy hairdactors. Yeah, with everybody. If you 25 years and hold there, probably on something. I tried to do, I can't do rollercoasters and stuff anymore. No, my equilibrium's gone. I'm like, I'm shocked. Yeah, I get nauseous. I think I might be the same. I think I might be the same. I went to, I was in Universal Studios recently with an old friend from high school. We went just, I don't know, we just went and we had a pop, a kind of little pot candy. And we had a guide as well. And I felt like she was cool enough because we did the Transformers ride, which is one of those, like it's a screen and it's 3D. It's like a motion ride. Yeah, fucking hell. It's just pure fucking hell. It's like, it's Dante's in Fernos.

57:18It's just horrible. And we came out and both of us, I was worse. I was like, I'm really fucked up now in a way that's not pleasant in any way. I would blow a challenge everywhere. And I was too high and I was too dizzy and I turned and I was like, I trust this girl. I'm going to see what she says. I'm like, hey, I don't know if you're aware, but we did a little bit of, we got a little bit higher before the Transformers ride and now I'm regretting it. And she was so fucking cool. She was like, I got you. We're going to go to Hogwarts. We're going to go and we're just going to sit on a bench and we're going to have, I know a place where there's a really nice breeze. We're just going to ride this out. We're just going to ride this out. This ain't my first radio. I'm not right now. She's like, check out this ride. It's called a bench. Now, Andrew, I'm going to leave. We've kept you way too long. Jason said something to me a long time, which I love. He goes, when after he's worked his balls off on something like this movie or whatever or Wells in the same boat and I read that you're kind of similar.

58:19Jason said, I want to aggressively do nothing when this is over just for a little bit for a day or a week or whatever. And you recently said, your perfect day off would be a lot of lying down and looking out the window. Which sounds incredible. How long can you do that for before you like up and again, up and around again? I can do it for a couple of months. Like I like, oh god. Yeah, I really can. Last time I've been working for like 11 months straight and it was so schizophrenic. Like doing the, I did like Sam Altman, who's like an emperor and then I did the peasant the peasant movie where I play the opposite of an emperor, someone who's getting kind of abused by an emperor figure and then doing Roy and like doing Roy doing Roy horn from like 20 years old to 65 years old. Like we do the whole, the whole gamut. So I feel, you know, you get to the point sometimes where you're so deeply resentful of the

59:23work that you love to do so much and that's kind of where I'm at. So I'm like, what is your version of looking out the window? Is it watching dumb TV? Is it reading books? Is it hanging out with friends? I would like to say it's reading books, but it is more watching dumb TV. And literally looking out, I have a lovely window in my house and it's beautiful. I'm like, I'm a tree that I just stare at. Again, it's like this kind of like the most valuable commodity outside of live performance is quiet and time and space and not having our attention snatched by the things that always snatched your attention. But no, yeah, friends, I did a trip to Devon as was a little seaside town in England with my nephew's and my brother. I did a trip with friends to Greece. I was, I did a little driving around Italy. Yeah, I mean, yeah, tending to that part of the garden, being with my family, it was simple shit. I love that. I love that. I think one of the gifts of being raised the way I was is it was made very, very clear to

1:00:23me. By osmosis, I think that there was no way that I could ever allow myself to drink my own coolate enough to lose myself. You know what I mean? That's why I keep my close friends close who will keep me accountable and like, keep me. Well, thank you for being here. This is a great episode. I laughed so hard with you. Thank you, you guys. I love you guys. I think you guys are so phenomenal. I'm such a huge fan of you guys and I'm grateful for this podcast and for everything you guys give to the world. I really, really truly am sincerely. Well, likewise. Well, back at you. Yeah, keep it coming. I'm truly right back at you. And if you don't, we'll put a gun to your head and we'll say keep going. Yeah. Have fun in New York, Andrew Garfield. Pleasure to meet you guys. Much love to you. Yeah, it's so great. Love to you, Paul. Great talking to you. See you around, I hope. Yeah, cheers. Bye, Paul. Thank you. Bye. Bye, bye, bye. That's a, that's a, I like that guy. I do too, man.

1:01:24Yeah, I do too. I do too a lot a lot. Yeah, what a easy, breezy conversation. I love it. You can ever consider being our friend. Yeah, let's ask him. He would be a good friend. Doesn't he? He would be a good friend. He doesn't necessarily be a good friend. He doesn't necessarily be a good friend. He doesn't necessarily be a good friend. He doesn't necessarily be a good friend. Cause we send him like, what do you do? How do you make friends nowadays? You just like send an off? But we don't want to come on too strong, though. Send an off? Yeah, you know, what would send an off? You know, like, listen. Who is this? Who is this? This is just our starting point. Please feel free to counter. Is that how you started? I'm always amazed that actors like that go from job to job to job to job to job. When do you have time to create the character? Like, and get and figure it all out? Do the research and all that stuff? Yeah. Or how about this? How about when do you have the time to like, not be an actor and hang out and like, maybe like, meet some nice guys like us and create new friendships and, you know, or like. Or wait, you're still loving crypto. Yeah, I mean, Jesus, you know. You know what, Jay? You know what you do.

1:02:25He probably gets so many great opportunities. He can't stop, you know? Yeah. You know how you make a new friend? You meet somebody. Jesus. You go really short. You get to know them. I'm short. And you go, you just take it slow and you take it day. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Smart. Bloss. SmartLess is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Rob Armjurf, Bennett Barbico, and Michael Granterry. Smart. Bloss.